October 10, 2024 • 9 mins
Richard Skinner from Local 12 joined us to discuss the Cincinnati Bengals. Hear them Bengals growling.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I heard that Donado's had with Orlando Brown and they
they haven't gotten back to me on my punts for
punts for pizza idea, you know, I was told on
social media can also be pints for pizza. Bengals force
four punts, they win and if they do that, they
can give away pints or pizza or whatever. Richard Skinner
(00:21):
is here from Local twelve and Local twelve Dot Comedies
on x at Local twelve Skinny, how's it going?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
It's going well, by the way, So those of us
that covered the beat, we do a little thing on
on game day we call a bean pool. We put
you know, five bucks in the pot, and we have
five different pools of different somewhat statistical but macab things.
And one of the sunday was when would the first
punt of the game occur? And I actually I actually
won that one.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Is it the whichever team punts?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah? I was in chever team punch because Bengals offense
is humming pretty good right now. Baltimore's offenses huming pretty
good and coming very well at all. So it felt
like a good o a good category to be a
part of.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Well, the Bengals have forced the other team to punt
seven times over their last four games, and so that's
that's less than two. Your basic math will tell you
that's less than two punts a game. I think if
the average NFL team gets eleven drives per game, if
if Luennar Rumo's defense can somehow force two punts per half,
I say the Bengals win against almost anybody right now.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, I mean, this offense is really good at the moment.
You know, to put up thirty plus points per game
three straight games and somehow lose two of them seems
just crazy to me. That shouldn't happen. Yeah, maybe you
can lose a shootout like they did on Sunday, but
you shouldn't lose two of those type of games and
then no offense. The Carolina win was I don't eve
wanna call it comfortable. Was comfortable enough, I guess based
(01:49):
on where this season is gone with that wasn't exactly
comfortable either. Sou you know, the one male save this
and I know everybody's freaking out, and one and four
is rightfully time to freak out a little bit. The
three best offenses in football mode and you correct if
you think I'm wrong, But I'm doing all statistics in
my eyeballs or the Bengals Baltimore and Washington correct, and
you've played two of them and you don't have to
(02:09):
play yourself, which is a good thing because they probably
lose themselves somehow someway. So I think again, you do
have to play ball's moor again. But you know the
one thing you can hang your hat on. I think
that's a lot of times lost seasons are cold because
both sides of the football stink and you have nothing
to hang your hat on, and then injuries occur and
knock on wood. If you're a Bengals fan, you know
(02:31):
the offense is fairly healthy at the moment. And if
it's healthy, there's no reason I think it's not going
to keep clicking. And you don't need the defense to
be great, you just see it to be eh. And now,
so you're Sheldon rankins practice today. That's a good sign.
Mike Kilton's back, that's a good sign. It's not a
great sign that Gino's stone hasn't been very good. It's
not a great time that vom Bell can't run. It's
not a great time that your man proct can't run anymore.
(02:51):
But you got some reinforcements back and that's got to
help some. Again, against an offense, it's not elite, they're good,
they're not bad. I mean, Game Zones has play pretty
well issh year. They ran it really well against Seattle.
But at the end of the day, this is not
Baltimore or Washington's offense.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
At your point, I've just made it about the next
four games. I want to get to that Baltimore game
four and five, and then I could use that Ravens
game as a jumping off point. So part of it
is the opponents they play. They're favored on Sunday Night,
maybe going to be larger favorites since we found out
about Kaevon Thibodeaux. They're gonna be favorites on the road
against the Cleveland team that's a dumpster fire at least
(03:26):
slight favorites at home against Philly. They'll be favored against
Las Vegas. I get a chance to win three out
of four with a quarterback who's putting up better numbers
than he did when he was an MVP finalist. I'm
not betting against that, and I'm not talking about making
the playoffs or winning the division or winning the title.
I'm talking about getting to Baltimore where I have a
chance to use that as a jumping off point.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I think this team does that.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah again, there's I mean, it's not out of the realm.
They went all four to go fiding for going they yes,
So yeah, to your point, it's you know again, I
in momentum is stickle thing none of us can tangibly
put a finger on in games and seasons whatever. But
you know, you remember a couple of years ago when
suddenly they had a really tough schedule and they rip
off ten wins in a row, and it just felt like,
(04:10):
where did that come from? I mean, all of a sudden,
you look at you wait, wait, they just won ten
games in a row. You don't do that in this league. Now,
I'm not gonna tell you this teams with the defense
as it is right now, is capable of ripping off
ten wins in a row. But that's what Alice capa
about this a little bit today. He's like, you know,
we win one, we feel confident we're gonna win a second,
and then we're gonna feel confident we win a third.
I thought that's probably a good tap to take. I mean,
it's probably only tack you can take as a player,
(04:31):
but I get it. It feels like that's all it takes.
And again, it's not like you're going, boy, how's this
team gonna score? When they can't stop anybody? And I
cant whip and go, well, how are they gonna stop
anybody gonna score? If you had issues on both sides
of the ball, well then that's a bad team. You don't.
You got some issues that are a little injury related,
not a lot. I mean some of it is guys
(04:52):
like a tam pillar. Britt for whatever reason, is regressed
a little bit. And I do think it's fixable for him,
but you know, I need to see it to believe
it right. You know, DJ turns played well in moments. Again,
getting mic back doesn't hurt.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
You know, I wish Vaughn was twenty six year old Vaughn.
Unfortunately he's not. There are issues, but I'm not asking
his defense to hold people when things are right to
thirteen points, You just ask them to hor hold the
twenty three? Can you do that?
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Four punts one a quarter? Four punts? I need thirty
six point four percent?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
You know what? That needs to be a fifty shirt shirt, four.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Punts, four punts thirties.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I think that's thirty six point four percent of the
other teams draw and by if you could work in
a turnover, you could work in stopping them on fourth down.
I just I want to see if the other team's
punter takes the field four times, the Bengals will win.
With the way the offense is playing now, the Bengals
will win. The one part of though, of that defense
that I I just I'm not sure gets fixed. And
(05:49):
maybe Gino Stone plays better, and and maybe I give
Jordan Battle of Mulligan for what I saw when he
got h put on the field on Sunday because it
wasn't good. I just I'm not sure they're gonna get
better at safety.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
No. And I talked to a couple of people today
as we're watching practice. I said, you know, are you
gonna have to spend another off season fixing that safety room?
You are, not just through the draft, but through free agency.
There's a part of me that says that Geno Stone
will get better. But it also feels like Geno Stone,
like Nick Scott, was a one off right, Like he
had this one off year in Baltimore, like Nick Scott
(06:22):
kind of had you know what, Nick Scott's here in
La wasn't great, but he's sort you off, you know,
starting in the playoffs, including the super Bowl against the Bengals.
I do think Geno is a better player than Nick
Scott by far. But yeah, it has looked ugly. I mean,
like blown coverages and taking bad angles, not looking fast. Now,
he was a guy that stole balls last year and
zactly he asked about that today. He said, you know,
(06:43):
don't don't go hunting those. And I don't think Geno's
hunting those. I don't think that's the problem with him
hunting turnovers. He just had been very good. And you know,
Vaughn looks like an old safety and it sucks because
he does a lot of things right. And to your
point on Jordan Battle, I mean, I know that the
cry from the fans, battle cry for lack of better
turn from the fans has been got to get more
Jordan battlesnaps. Did you watch him on Sunday Guys? It
(07:05):
was horrifyingly bad. Uh So, yeah, that parts a bit
scary of your thing. I mean part was honest. There's
a part of me that the way DJ Turner played
the week before with when he came for King till Bread.
I'm thinking, you know, it wouldn't be a bad idea
of putting Dax Hill back at safety. Well, that's.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Unfortunately it is.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
And I I feel for him because it feels like
since about the middle of the offseason, he has done
everything you could ask him to do.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Has he played great?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
No, but nobody played well.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
He's played well. He's played fine.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
As as we've talked about their defensive issues, we haven't
complained about daxx Hill and I feel for him. What
do you think that does for the decision about what
to do with the faith year option this offseason?
Speaker 2 (07:48):
A great question. I think they end up picking it up.
I really do because I in talking to you know,
Zach publicly in press conference and he probably heard his
answer to it. Again. Their all heart broken, but they
think dactually has a bright future. We talked to Lou
on Monday. Lou talked about how he thinks he has
a bright future. If you think he has a bright future,
the bright future is in just one more year, right,
it should be at least the fifth year option. But
(08:09):
it's a legit point of do you pick up a
cornerback coming off major knee surgery. We saw what it
did to Joebiyuzier. He was never he wasn't the same
player by any stretch of the imagination. Now Dax's is
a bit younger than Cheetoh was, but still it's a
corner coming off major knee surgery. And so that's the
big ask, my guess would be, and it's just a
(08:29):
guess of how he responds to the surgery, maybe what
you see to some degree, because you got to do this,
you know, sooner rather than later. That's not coming up
tomorrow or next week. But again it's it's a decision
point you have to come to if you feel confident
whatever rehab process he's in, that he's going to be
back close to one hundred percent early next year. You know,
(08:51):
I usually give those injuries a year. Now. Dj Ivy's
back practicing off of this kind of a similar thing,
and he hurt that on December sixteenth, And I don't
think DJ is gonna be able to play this week,
but it's probably going to be in the next couple
of weeks. DJ and again, he's an answer. He's a
nice player, but he'll be back in a couple of weeks,
and so you're now looking at a ten month with
a ten month recovery for Dax. Does get him back
(09:13):
in time probably for the starting next season, maybe not
for full training camp, but at least for the starting
next season. And so if you believe he can do that,
and you believe in him and believe in what he did, yeah,
I think you do pick up the fifth year option.
But it is an interesting question. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
No, uh, I agree with your answer. I appreciate the
time as always. Man, thank you.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
You bet mine'd be good.
I heard that Donado's had with Orlando Brown and they
they haven't gotten back to me on my punts for
punts for pizza idea, you know, I was told on
social media can also be pints for pizza. Bengals force
four punts, they win and if they do that, they
can give away pints or pizza or whatever. Richard Skinner
(00:21):
is here from Local twelve and Local twelve Dot Comedies
on x at Local twelve Skinny, how's it going?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
It's going well, by the way, So those of us
that covered the beat, we do a little thing on
on game day we call a bean pool. We put
you know, five bucks in the pot, and we have
five different pools of different somewhat statistical but macab things.
And one of the sunday was when would the first
punt of the game occur? And I actually I actually
won that one.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Is it the whichever team punts?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah? I was in chever team punch because Bengals offense
is humming pretty good right now. Baltimore's offenses huming pretty
good and coming very well at all. So it felt
like a good o a good category to be a
part of.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Well, the Bengals have forced the other team to punt
seven times over their last four games, and so that's
that's less than two. Your basic math will tell you
that's less than two punts a game. I think if
the average NFL team gets eleven drives per game, if
if Luennar Rumo's defense can somehow force two punts per half,
I say the Bengals win against almost anybody right now.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, I mean, this offense is really good at the moment.
You know, to put up thirty plus points per game
three straight games and somehow lose two of them seems
just crazy to me. That shouldn't happen. Yeah, maybe you
can lose a shootout like they did on Sunday, but
you shouldn't lose two of those type of games and
then no offense. The Carolina win was I don't eve
wanna call it comfortable. Was comfortable enough, I guess based
(01:49):
on where this season is gone with that wasn't exactly
comfortable either. Sou you know, the one male save this
and I know everybody's freaking out, and one and four
is rightfully time to freak out a little bit. The
three best offenses in football mode and you correct if
you think I'm wrong, But I'm doing all statistics in
my eyeballs or the Bengals Baltimore and Washington correct, and
you've played two of them and you don't have to
(02:09):
play yourself, which is a good thing because they probably
lose themselves somehow someway. So I think again, you do
have to play ball's moor again. But you know the
one thing you can hang your hat on. I think
that's a lot of times lost seasons are cold because
both sides of the football stink and you have nothing
to hang your hat on, and then injuries occur and
knock on wood. If you're a Bengals fan, you know
(02:31):
the offense is fairly healthy at the moment. And if
it's healthy, there's no reason I think it's not going
to keep clicking. And you don't need the defense to
be great, you just see it to be eh. And now,
so you're Sheldon rankins practice today. That's a good sign.
Mike Kilton's back, that's a good sign. It's not a
great sign that Gino's stone hasn't been very good. It's
not a great time that vom Bell can't run. It's
not a great time that your man proct can't run anymore.
(02:51):
But you got some reinforcements back and that's got to
help some. Again, against an offense, it's not elite, they're good,
they're not bad. I mean, Game Zones has play pretty
well issh year. They ran it really well against Seattle.
But at the end of the day, this is not
Baltimore or Washington's offense.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
At your point, I've just made it about the next
four games. I want to get to that Baltimore game
four and five, and then I could use that Ravens
game as a jumping off point. So part of it
is the opponents they play. They're favored on Sunday Night,
maybe going to be larger favorites since we found out
about Kaevon Thibodeaux. They're gonna be favorites on the road
against the Cleveland team that's a dumpster fire at least
(03:26):
slight favorites at home against Philly. They'll be favored against
Las Vegas. I get a chance to win three out
of four with a quarterback who's putting up better numbers
than he did when he was an MVP finalist. I'm
not betting against that, and I'm not talking about making
the playoffs or winning the division or winning the title.
I'm talking about getting to Baltimore where I have a
chance to use that as a jumping off point.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I think this team does that.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah again, there's I mean, it's not out of the realm.
They went all four to go fiding for going they yes,
So yeah, to your point, it's you know again, I
in momentum is stickle thing none of us can tangibly
put a finger on in games and seasons whatever. But
you know, you remember a couple of years ago when
suddenly they had a really tough schedule and they rip
off ten wins in a row, and it just felt like,
(04:10):
where did that come from? I mean, all of a sudden,
you look at you wait, wait, they just won ten
games in a row. You don't do that in this league. Now,
I'm not gonna tell you this teams with the defense
as it is right now, is capable of ripping off
ten wins in a row. But that's what Alice capa
about this a little bit today. He's like, you know,
we win one, we feel confident we're gonna win a second,
and then we're gonna feel confident we win a third.
I thought that's probably a good tap to take. I mean,
it's probably only tack you can take as a player,
(04:31):
but I get it. It feels like that's all it takes.
And again, it's not like you're going, boy, how's this
team gonna score? When they can't stop anybody? And I
cant whip and go, well, how are they gonna stop
anybody gonna score? If you had issues on both sides
of the ball, well then that's a bad team. You don't.
You got some issues that are a little injury related,
not a lot. I mean some of it is guys
(04:52):
like a tam pillar. Britt for whatever reason, is regressed
a little bit. And I do think it's fixable for him,
but you know, I need to see it to believe
it right. You know, DJ turns played well in moments. Again,
getting mic back doesn't hurt.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
You know, I wish Vaughn was twenty six year old Vaughn.
Unfortunately he's not. There are issues, but I'm not asking
his defense to hold people when things are right to
thirteen points, You just ask them to hor hold the
twenty three? Can you do that?
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Four punts one a quarter? Four punts? I need thirty
six point four percent?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
You know what? That needs to be a fifty shirt shirt, four.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Punts, four punts thirties.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I think that's thirty six point four percent of the
other teams draw and by if you could work in
a turnover, you could work in stopping them on fourth down.
I just I want to see if the other team's
punter takes the field four times, the Bengals will win.
With the way the offense is playing now, the Bengals
will win. The one part of though, of that defense
that I I just I'm not sure gets fixed. And
(05:49):
maybe Gino Stone plays better, and and maybe I give
Jordan Battle of Mulligan for what I saw when he
got h put on the field on Sunday because it
wasn't good. I just I'm not sure they're gonna get
better at safety.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
No. And I talked to a couple of people today
as we're watching practice. I said, you know, are you
gonna have to spend another off season fixing that safety room?
You are, not just through the draft, but through free agency.
There's a part of me that says that Geno Stone
will get better. But it also feels like Geno Stone,
like Nick Scott, was a one off right, Like he
had this one off year in Baltimore, like Nick Scott
(06:22):
kind of had you know what, Nick Scott's here in
La wasn't great, but he's sort you off, you know,
starting in the playoffs, including the super Bowl against the Bengals.
I do think Geno is a better player than Nick
Scott by far. But yeah, it has looked ugly. I mean,
like blown coverages and taking bad angles, not looking fast. Now,
he was a guy that stole balls last year and
zactly he asked about that today. He said, you know,
(06:43):
don't don't go hunting those. And I don't think Geno's
hunting those. I don't think that's the problem with him
hunting turnovers. He just had been very good. And you know,
Vaughn looks like an old safety and it sucks because
he does a lot of things right. And to your
point on Jordan Battle, I mean, I know that the
cry from the fans, battle cry for lack of better
turn from the fans has been got to get more
Jordan battlesnaps. Did you watch him on Sunday Guys? It
(07:05):
was horrifyingly bad. Uh So, yeah, that parts a bit
scary of your thing. I mean part was honest. There's
a part of me that the way DJ Turner played
the week before with when he came for King till Bread.
I'm thinking, you know, it wouldn't be a bad idea
of putting Dax Hill back at safety. Well, that's.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Unfortunately it is.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
And I I feel for him because it feels like
since about the middle of the offseason, he has done
everything you could ask him to do.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Has he played great?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
No, but nobody played well.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
He's played well. He's played fine.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
As as we've talked about their defensive issues, we haven't
complained about daxx Hill and I feel for him. What
do you think that does for the decision about what
to do with the faith year option this offseason?
Speaker 2 (07:48):
A great question. I think they end up picking it up.
I really do because I in talking to you know,
Zach publicly in press conference and he probably heard his
answer to it. Again. Their all heart broken, but they
think dactually has a bright future. We talked to Lou
on Monday. Lou talked about how he thinks he has
a bright future. If you think he has a bright future,
the bright future is in just one more year, right,
it should be at least the fifth year option. But
(08:09):
it's a legit point of do you pick up a
cornerback coming off major knee surgery. We saw what it
did to Joebiyuzier. He was never he wasn't the same
player by any stretch of the imagination. Now Dax's is
a bit younger than Cheetoh was, but still it's a
corner coming off major knee surgery. And so that's the
big ask, my guess would be, and it's just a
(08:29):
guess of how he responds to the surgery, maybe what
you see to some degree, because you got to do this,
you know, sooner rather than later. That's not coming up
tomorrow or next week. But again it's it's a decision
point you have to come to if you feel confident
whatever rehab process he's in, that he's going to be
back close to one hundred percent early next year. You know,
(08:51):
I usually give those injuries a year. Now. Dj Ivy's
back practicing off of this kind of a similar thing,
and he hurt that on December sixteenth, And I don't
think DJ is gonna be able to play this week,
but it's probably going to be in the next couple
of weeks. DJ and again, he's an answer. He's a
nice player, but he'll be back in a couple of weeks,
and so you're now looking at a ten month with
a ten month recovery for Dax. Does get him back
(09:13):
in time probably for the starting next season, maybe not
for full training camp, but at least for the starting
next season. And so if you believe he can do that,
and you believe in him and believe in what he did, yeah,
I think you do pick up the fifth year option.
But it is an interesting question. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
No, uh, I agree with your answer. I appreciate the
time as always. Man, thank you.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
You bet mine'd be good.
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