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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dave Laplock and you're listening to the Home
of the Bengals ESPN fifteen thirty.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
All right, take two, let's do it. Got nineteen away
from five o'clock. The head coach of the Zapier Musketeers
and host of the Sean Miller podcast, Sean Miller. This
is why you have your podcast guests in studio. No
phone connections.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
That's exactly right, Sorry about that, mom.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
All good, No, you sound good. Always flattered that you've
chosen to join us. Let me start with this weekend
and we'll sort of start back and move ahead. You've
played preseason scrimmages before, you've played exhibition games against you know,
schools from the Division two or three level, or you've
played traveling club teams. You're going to go on the
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road and play a Division One opponent and and historical rivals.
So kind of walk us through the preparation and the
execution of a game that's gonna feel like a regular
season game, but in the standings and in the rankings
doesn't count.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Yeah. So I think, first of all, you know, we
came together Dayton and Xavier really from Anthony Grant reaching
out to us Obviously the game has a bigger issue
at stake than just the basketball component, you know, the
mental health part of it, suicide prevention, suicide awareness, and
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especially here in the state of Ohio. And I think
to be able to come together Xavier Dayton to basketball
programs for that cause, you know, that's a big part
of this because you know, that's what the game is
really centered on. And I know in particular that that's
something that's sacred to Anthony Grant and his family and
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me knowing Anthony for a long period of time, almost
two decades. Again, in an effort to partner with him
on something like that, it means a lot to us
at Xavier, means a lot to me. So that's the
first part. In terms of basketball. You know, we're going
to learn a lot about our team. You know, you
can always play a good competition, and Dayton's certainly going
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to be that. But to get the atmosphere of U.
D Arena playing a true away game in front of
a sold out crowd in the month of October, I
think that will have some additional benefits for our team because,
let's face it, winning on the road in college basketball
that might be at the top of the list of
the most difficult things for all of us to do
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and to get some practice and what it feels like
and have to deal with that. I think it could
be something that helps us down the line.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
You're you're going to learn a lot about your team
on Sunday. I'm sure you've learned some things about your
team over the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
What are some of those things.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Well, we lost Lucina tree Or to a season ending injury,
and you know, I really don't even want to talk
about it a whole lot, because you know, it's it's
it's not good news before we even start. And uh,
you know, to some degree, he's irreplaceable. You know, we
we have to be able to replace him them with
not one player, but as a team all of us
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and come united and grow and get better and maybe
different ways than we otherwise would have. But we're an
older group, we're a more experienced group, and I think
that we probably have more offensive firepower than we would
have a year ago. And you know, like a lot
of teams were at the beginning stages of growing and proving.
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So but I think we have a lot to work
with and again, these next couple of weeks would be
big for us.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
So you know, you mentioned Lacina, and I know it's
something you don't want to spend a lot of time on,
but I look, I'm sitting there yesterday morning and I
see your tweet and the first thing that stood out
to me was that that's a coach who feels for
the kid. There's a basketball application. This is a kid
who averaged a double double, a big who is going
to make.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
An impact this year. But there's the human part of this.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
How hard is it to deal with a kid like
this who comes to your program, is excited to play
in the Big East, and now that opportunity going to
be delayed.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
It's devastating. It's the hardest thing, I think for a
coach to deal with because you're helpless. There's really not
anything you can do other than just do the best
job you can of being creative with the environment to
support him. You know, it's not just you, it's you
and your family. It's not just the head coach, it's
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the entire staff. Then it becomes all of his teammates
and then to some degree, the Xavier basketball community. I mean,
Messina is from the Ivory coast. You know, his family
is in Africa. He made the decision to join us
in the spring. He had some great choices, really came
down to Oregon or Xavier. We were thrilled to get him.
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And then, you know, Mo, you learn these guys because
you're around them in essence all summer and then in
his case, for a lot a lot of the fall.
So the last five months, you know, you figure out
who's your hardest worker. He was a great teammate. You know,
who's somebody that has winning qualities. And I would have
said check, check check next to his name. Great teammate,
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incredibly hard worker, and incredible teammate. I think he had
a huge upside. So when then everything's taken from him,
there's not a lot you can do now. The other
part of it is, I do think he can return
back to form next season, but it's it's tough for
you and I to talk about next season when we
haven't begun this season, you know, And I think that's
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the hardest part.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yeah, I've got to think.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
The flip side of that, though, is when when you
get guys who couldn't play last year, and obviously the
first guy that comes to mind for me is Jerome
Hunter because of everything he's been through. So when he
can get on the floor again, from a basketball coaches perspective,
you're thrilled to have him, But just the human part
of that, it's got to make you feel great to
see him out.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
There, no doubt, and Zach Fremanno and Jerome I would
share the same sentiment. You know, it'd be like Lesina
a year from today. The rehabilitation, the surgery, the isolation,
those dark days that accompany somebody having season ending injuries.
You know, in your best attempt to keep them as
part of what you're doing there is that isolation and
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to support them through that is one thing. But then
when they get to the other side and you see
they resolved, how much they've been strengthened, how excited they
are to be back out there, you know that's the
opposite feeling of the devastation. So we're thrilled to have
both Zach and Drone with us right now. Those guys
are fully cleared. They've been fully cleared for a while,
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especially Zach and I think they'll both be productive players
for us this season.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Ex You head coach Sean Miller with US Musketeer Madness
on Friday starts at five o'clock at the Centa Center
FanFest and the plaza doors open at six. Women scrimmage
at seven o'clock, followed by the men right around seven
forty five. Among the new players you bring in this year,
I loved watching last season that Indiana State team. So
I watched Ryan Conwell a lot. For those who maybe
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haven't had a chance to see him nearly as much,
describe his game for me.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
So, Ryan is a six ' to three guard. He
has a unique body. Weighs two hundred and fifteen pounds,
so he's strong and stocky. He uses that to his advantage.
He's incredibly efficient.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Moh.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
You know, whether you look at the shots he takes,
the ones that he makes. Last year, he made more
three point shots than Quincy Oliveri did for US, and
he shot it at a very similar percentage.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Indiana State was just an incredibly fun team for any
basketball fan to watch, and I would say if Ryan
wasn't their best player, he was certainly one of them.
And he has a lot of winning qualities as well.
He just he plays the game in a smart way
and he impacts winning in a variety of ways besides
his scoring. But we're really thrilled to have him. You know,
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like I talked about Jerome and Zach, you know, Ryan
Conwell will be instrumental to our team this year.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Give me similar scouting report with Dante Maddox.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yeah, a lot of the same things that I talked
to you about with Ryan Conwell. Dante brings the same characteristics.
You know, Dante played at Toledo where he won the
last two Mid American Conference regular season championships. You know
that Mo that that's a conference that deserves a lot
of credit. I mean, there's some really good coaches and
players in that league. So he comes from a winning environment.
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Like Ryan, he can really shoot the basketball, he knows
how to play, could do it on defense and offense.
And again, part of what we wanted to do in
building our roster is to build an experienced group, a
veteran group, a group that could could play with skill
and could score and really add that firepower to our roster.
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And I think Dante Maddox and Ryan Conwell really do
that for us.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
We've done this in college basketball now for a few years,
where you know, summer camp and preseason practice is about
meshing all these guys together who played the previous season
and other programs. I know this is going to sound
like the weird question, but is this starting to feel normal?
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Doing it this way?
Speaker 1 (09:23):
You know it better, right, I don't know if it's
I do know this. It's here to stay, you know. So,
you know, the world changes, you have to grow and
evolve and adapt in I think all industries and sometimes
in sports, all of us just we want to keep
it how it once was. Well that's not how this works.
So we're all I think, growing and adapting and evolving
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as our world does. So it does feel more normal now.
You know, when I was at Arizona during that period
of time, everybody wanted to be in college for just
a year or two. Right, So if you're the college
basketball player, that's very good. You felt the pressure to
leave college basketball and become a pro one and done,
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two and done. You know, if you became an upper classman,
you almost were made to feel like something's wrong with you,
You're not good enough. Right, Well, at least that's not
the same, you know.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Now.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I think that there's a lot of players that are
staying in college basketball longer. They're in their fourth and
fifth year. In some ways, mo, I think it makes
our game, the game of college basketball, even more exciting.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
I think as a fan, and you know I'm different,
but like there's a transactional part to the offseason so
I can spend Like you know, again, I mentioned I
watched Ryan Conwell a lot, so I can I can
try to figure out how he's going to fit in
with the kids that you bring back. You're not a
fan though you're a coach. Your livelihood depends on this,
But I agree with you. I think it makes I
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know there are challenges. I know it's no fun to
lose a kid, but as a fan and I think
there's been a lot of positive to just watching watching
teams get put together and changing how we talk about
college basketball in the offseason.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
That's just me though.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Yeah, you know, I think the NFL is a great
litmus test. This would be my perspective. What makes the
NFL so amazing, I think for all of us is
the parody. You know, whether it's just how many close
games happen all at once on Sunday or you know,
you're in early December and what three quarters of the
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league still have an opportunity to be in the playoffs,
and then then the playoffs begin, and I know the
Chiefs have been on fire, but let's face that, anybody
can beat anybody, you know on that one shot deal.
And it's like everybody loves the NFL because of the parody.
And I think that's what makes March Madness so special
that on any given day, it's not the best team,
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but who plays the best on that day. And if
that's been if there's been parody before, mo, I don't
think that they'll be anywhere close to what's gonna happen
in our future because of what you brought up, that
there's so much change from one season to the next
that it's just it's really hard to differentiate who's who.
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And I think that this this March Madness and even
making the tournament, it's going to be more difficult than
ever before for all of us.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Xavier head coach Sean Miller. You you mentioned the name.
I'm watching NBA TV two or three nights ago and
they're showing Lakers Bucks preseason highlights and Quincy Oliveri is
taking over in the fourth quarter. Uh, you've got your
hands full with your team. But and then I you know,
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I read folks who cover the LA Lakers because I'm
a nerd, and they're raving about him, and Lebron James
is talking about Quincy OLIVERI have have you followed this?
Have you had a chance to talk with him? It
feels like he's got a chance to make the club.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Yeah, I sure hope. So. I do think that what
he's done is he's put himself in a great position
to be an NBA player if it doesn't work out
with the Lakers, and I don't know if it will
or will not. I hope it does. But when you
you know, you're always auditioning for somebody at that level,
and you know you catch another general manager's eye or
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somebody in another team, a lot of times that next
opportunity comes from exactly what you just said. It's what
you did in the month of October with the Lakers
that gave you the next opportunity. But look, there's one
thing that I've learned about Quincy. He's early to rise
and he's late to go to bed, and he's about
the main thing. The main thing with him is making
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the NBA and being the best player he can be.
He's not confused, and he puts all eggs in his basket.
He's super smart, he's incredibly driven, he's a great worker,
tireless worker. And then as you know, he is an
elite shot maker. And you put all that together, it
only takes one NBA team to like you. And and
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I believe this. I think they'll be an NBA team
that's gonna that's gonna want him to be a part
of what they do.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
You've had a lot of guys get to the next level,
get to the NBA. What's what's the role of what's
your role in all that? Or do do the Lakers
reach out to do other teams reach out.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
And look at him for a year?
Speaker 2 (14:21):
So it's it's a little bit different than if you
had a guy for a longer stretch of time. But
what's your role in that process where teams are given
a shot to a guy that you coached?
Speaker 1 (14:33):
You know, I always try to have a role, and
I want the role to be positive. In some situations, uh,
I don't have much of one, even if I wanted to.
And then there have been some others that you know,
I really just try to stay in the game and
in the player's corner. Because look, if I can push
him one percent five percent, if I can be helpful
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in any way, it might be simply just answering a
few questions. You know, I always want, want to want
to be available because at the end of the day,
that's that's what this is all about, right, seeing them
reach their goals and dreams. And when that happens, it's
it's an amazing feeling for everybody, including our fans. Right,
there's nothing that they want to see more than seeing
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Quincy all a very way or where an NBA uniform.
He represents ussainst them. So I always try to help
and in some way I believe I can be helpful
with Quincy.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yeah, definitely rooting for him. You have a busy weekend
this weekend and then things really get going. You've got
Musketeer Madness on Friday and then the charity exhibition against
the Dayton Flyers up at U the Arena at five
o'clock on Sunday. I cannot thank you enough of your time.
I'm a big fan of the podcast. We love having
you and hopefully we can do it during the season. Coach,
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thanks so much.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
You know, mo I might have to get you on
as a guest, you know, and as you know, when
you start doing these podcasts, you start running out of
out of certain players or whatever this may be. May
be I'll reverse the game on you, all right, you.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Know, you know, here's the deal.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
During during the pandemic, when like folks were hard up
for people, we found out I'm a good podcast guess
because you know, people would run through their rolodex, I
guess and then it would get empty and they'd call me.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
So I have filled that role before.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I would be honored beyond belief to be your I
will quickly roll on you.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
I'm in.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
This isn't yeah, no, no, no, this isn't one of
these invites because I'm run out of guests. I do
think you'd be a great Uh. You'd be a great
change up though, you know for me, and uh and look,
I need all the help I can get. But yeah,
we're gonna get you on. Okay, we'll make.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
You need no help. But I will be honored and
let's make that happen. I appreciate the time as always.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Coach, thanks you all right, Okay, you take care of mom.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
You got it.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Sean Miller, head coach of the Musketeers, Musketeer Madness fan
Fest at five doors open at six men's and women's
programs both involved. Billy Chambers team will take the floor
at seven o'clock for a scrimmage, and then Shawn's Xavier
squad takes the floor at right about seven forty five.
And I know there are folks in our audience who
might not be following the NBA preseason all that closely,
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but Quincy Oliveri has done some really cool things with
the LA Lakers and a friend of the show because
he joined us from the Final four when he was
competing in both the three point competition and he was
in the NABC All Star Game. And again Friday, Musketeer
Madness Xavier Dayton at ud Arena and what Anthony Grant
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and his staff have done with these charity exhibitions promoting
and encouraging an increased awareness of mental.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Health absolutely awesome.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Xavier Dayton part of that on Sunday and uc Ohio
State for the same initiative on Friday evening. Good stuff
from a Shan Miller And if you haven't listened to
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