October 18, 2024 • 6 mins
Jay Morrison from BengalsTalk.com joined us on his mom's birthday to talk Bengals/Browns.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
J Morrison's here. Bengals Talk dot Com is where you
can get his work. He's on x at by Jay Morrison.
He joins us every single Thursday. Last week it was
his birthday. Today it's just a normal Thursday, and so
I think everybody's feeling a bit of a letdown. Nonetheless,
it's good to have you, Jay.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
How are you. I'm doing great. Hey, it's my mom's
birthday today, So not just a normal Thursday.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
It's your mom's birthday. I bet your mom is listening
to this show right now and hanging on every word.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
No, probably not. She's turning at eighty today. My brother's
in town from Florida. I think they're they're out doing
something else right now.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
All right, Well, I can't blame her for that, which
which history matters more the fact that historically speaking, Toshaun
Watson this season has been terrible, or that the Bengals
haven't beaten the Brown since Marvin Lewis was the coach.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I think you have to go with the more current.
I mean, what really does twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen
and even twenty twenty one, what is that have to
do with this year? I would say not much. I
think the players understand it's not much, but Deshaun Watson,
that's I just don't see how that turns around. I
think they get a lift. I think Nick Chubb coming
(01:12):
back as any great running back would help the passing game.
But I mean, the Browns are just they can't get
out of their own way. You know what, one for
twenty nine on their last twenty nine third downs, one
they've had scored in twenty nine touchdown drives, or they
scored once in twenty nine touchdown drives. It's just historically
(01:33):
bad and it is weird. You don't see quarterbacks of
that caliber fall off the cliff like that. But it's
I just don't see how it rebounds. Even though the
Bengals defense has struggled a little bit, I think the
Cleveland Browns defense is going to have to win this
game for him.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Can they? You know, we watched last week what New
York did upfront against Cincinnati, and we talked about that
on the Growler podcast little bit, and New York has
a good defensive front. The Browns, it's interesting metrically, they're
not nearly as good as they were last year and
they were terrific, especially down the stretch, and yet you know,
(02:12):
you see some of the same names. You talk about
Miles Garrett, and then you kind of apply that to
what we saw the Bengals and their issues with pass
protection last week, and I think there's some degree of concern,
at least from a fan perspective.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Should there be, Yeah, absolutely, I think there should be, because,
like I said, again, the Nick Chubb thing coming back,
I think is pretty big. And if you think about it,
that the Browns personnel is the same and they're playing
really well early in games, but it's it's still these
games have been warm, and these they are on the
(02:46):
field a lot. When that offense can't move the ball,
it's just natural that you're going to start wearing down.
I mean, we've talked about it with the Bengals defensive line,
how important it's been to get the guys back and
get that rotation going and make them pressure in the
fourth quarter and talk all the time about complimentary football,
and that's not happening in Cleveland. And I think that's
a big reason why the brown defense hasn't been bad.
(03:08):
But it hasn't. It hasn't looked like it has in
the past, but you get Nick Chubb in there to
start moving the ball, eating some time, letting that defense
get a little bit of rest, and I think this
this Bengals offense is going to be in for a fight.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah. Jamar Chase said within the last hour that this
is the best secondary they have played. I believe he
referenced Baltimore and he carved up Baltimore as Cleveland's secondary
this season. Really that good.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Yeah, I mean there guys are the Denzel Ward, Grant Delpit,
those those guys have been there for years. He actually
said this is I think I'm trying to remember back.
I thought he said this is the best defense next
to Baltimore. So he was even putting Baltimore ahead of Cleveland,
and he carved up Baltimore. But he has struggled against Cleveland.
They all have it. It's not been pretty against that team,
(04:01):
no matter whether it's been in Cleveland, whether it's down here.
But this offense is just humming right now. Last week aside,
that was a little bit different. I do think they're
gonna be able to move the ball in school. I
just don't think you're going to see them up in
the thirties, up in the four hundred yard range against
this defense. But I do think they're going to have
enough firepower to outscore the Cleveland offense.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah, and now that we have a quarterback who can
go forty seven yards for a touchdown run with nobody touchdown,
I mean, that's just a dimension that in Cleveland. How
how are you preparing for that?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Do you see?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
You know, you and I have talked a lot about
Chase Brown and Zack Moss. And look, I mean, if
Chase Brown's fumble gets recovered by the New York Giants,
maybe we're having a different conversation about him. The offense
just looks different with Chase on the field, and we've
seen an increase in his usage. Do you see it
all the possibility that things start to tilt at least
(04:57):
a little bit more in favor of Chase ahead of Zach.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, I really do. I think you know, we started
seeing it on Sunday night against the Giants, and he's
just he I mean, Zach Moss hasn't been bad, but
Chase has been so explosive. And he's had fifty one
rushes this year and ten of them twenty percent of
his runs has gone for ten yards and more and
he's right up there at the top of the league
(05:23):
and an explosive run percentage. He needs to touch the
ball more. And they've they've changed this running game where
it was all about efficiency in the pass word. Just
don't lose yards, Just get what's there and get us
in a move the chains a little bit. Joe Burrow
makes up and happen on second down, third down, whatever
it is. And now they're taking some more chances and
they're having some more players that are getting negative yards
(05:44):
in the running game. But you can do that when
Chase Brown's popping thirty yarders or twenty yarders. It's just
a it's a little bit of a different approach. And
any anytime that guy could get the ball in his
hands more, it's better. The farmer was concerning that was
one of the knocks on him coming out of college.
But I guess you kind of get a little break
there because they didn't recover it, and hopefully he will
(06:05):
be a little more cognizant of that and lock up
on future runs. You just can't be putting the ball
on the ground.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
What'd you do for your mom's birthday? Send flowers? You
take her to get a nice dinner. What's the plan.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
A center A very heartfelt text. But tomorrow night, Tomorrow night,
big big party with a lot of her friends where
you know, Friday night we rented a room and a
lot of her friends, a lot of family going to
come celebrate the IDEA.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Very heartfelt text. Well, very good, Tell your mom happy birthday.
Thank you as always, Jay, we do appreciate
Speaker 2 (06:41):
It all right, Thanks both
J Morrison's here. Bengals Talk dot Com is where you
can get his work. He's on x at by Jay Morrison.
He joins us every single Thursday. Last week it was
his birthday. Today it's just a normal Thursday, and so
I think everybody's feeling a bit of a letdown. Nonetheless,
it's good to have you, Jay.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
How are you. I'm doing great. Hey, it's my mom's
birthday today, So not just a normal Thursday.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
It's your mom's birthday. I bet your mom is listening
to this show right now and hanging on every word.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
No, probably not. She's turning at eighty today. My brother's
in town from Florida. I think they're they're out doing
something else right now.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
All right, Well, I can't blame her for that, which
which history matters more the fact that historically speaking, Toshaun
Watson this season has been terrible, or that the Bengals
haven't beaten the Brown since Marvin Lewis was the coach.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I think you have to go with the more current.
I mean, what really does twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen
and even twenty twenty one, what is that have to
do with this year? I would say not much. I
think the players understand it's not much, but Deshaun Watson,
that's I just don't see how that turns around. I
think they get a lift. I think Nick Chubb coming
(01:12):
back as any great running back would help the passing game.
But I mean, the Browns are just they can't get
out of their own way. You know what, one for
twenty nine on their last twenty nine third downs, one
they've had scored in twenty nine touchdown drives, or they
scored once in twenty nine touchdown drives. It's just historically
(01:33):
bad and it is weird. You don't see quarterbacks of
that caliber fall off the cliff like that. But it's
I just don't see how it rebounds. Even though the
Bengals defense has struggled a little bit, I think the
Cleveland Browns defense is going to have to win this
game for him.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Can they? You know, we watched last week what New
York did upfront against Cincinnati, and we talked about that
on the Growler podcast little bit, and New York has
a good defensive front. The Browns, it's interesting metrically, they're
not nearly as good as they were last year and
they were terrific, especially down the stretch, and yet you know,
(02:12):
you see some of the same names. You talk about
Miles Garrett, and then you kind of apply that to
what we saw the Bengals and their issues with pass
protection last week, and I think there's some degree of concern,
at least from a fan perspective.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Should there be, Yeah, absolutely, I think there should be, because,
like I said, again, the Nick Chubb thing coming back,
I think is pretty big. And if you think about it,
that the Browns personnel is the same and they're playing
really well early in games, but it's it's still these
games have been warm, and these they are on the
(02:46):
field a lot. When that offense can't move the ball,
it's just natural that you're going to start wearing down.
I mean, we've talked about it with the Bengals defensive line,
how important it's been to get the guys back and
get that rotation going and make them pressure in the
fourth quarter and talk all the time about complimentary football,
and that's not happening in Cleveland. And I think that's
a big reason why the brown defense hasn't been bad.
(03:08):
But it hasn't. It hasn't looked like it has in
the past, but you get Nick Chubb in there to
start moving the ball, eating some time, letting that defense
get a little bit of rest, and I think this
this Bengals offense is going to be in for a fight.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah. Jamar Chase said within the last hour that this
is the best secondary they have played. I believe he
referenced Baltimore and he carved up Baltimore as Cleveland's secondary
this season. Really that good.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Yeah, I mean there guys are the Denzel Ward, Grant Delpit,
those those guys have been there for years. He actually
said this is I think I'm trying to remember back.
I thought he said this is the best defense next
to Baltimore. So he was even putting Baltimore ahead of Cleveland,
and he carved up Baltimore. But he has struggled against Cleveland.
They all have it. It's not been pretty against that team,
(04:01):
no matter whether it's been in Cleveland, whether it's down here.
But this offense is just humming right now. Last week aside,
that was a little bit different. I do think they're
gonna be able to move the ball in school. I
just don't think you're going to see them up in
the thirties, up in the four hundred yard range against
this defense. But I do think they're going to have
enough firepower to outscore the Cleveland offense.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah, and now that we have a quarterback who can
go forty seven yards for a touchdown run with nobody touchdown,
I mean, that's just a dimension that in Cleveland. How
how are you preparing for that?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Do you see?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
You know, you and I have talked a lot about
Chase Brown and Zack Moss. And look, I mean, if
Chase Brown's fumble gets recovered by the New York Giants,
maybe we're having a different conversation about him. The offense
just looks different with Chase on the field, and we've
seen an increase in his usage. Do you see it
all the possibility that things start to tilt at least
(04:57):
a little bit more in favor of Chase ahead of Zach.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, I really do. I think you know, we started
seeing it on Sunday night against the Giants, and he's
just he I mean, Zach Moss hasn't been bad, but
Chase has been so explosive. And he's had fifty one
rushes this year and ten of them twenty percent of
his runs has gone for ten yards and more and
he's right up there at the top of the league
(05:23):
and an explosive run percentage. He needs to touch the
ball more. And they've they've changed this running game where
it was all about efficiency in the pass word. Just
don't lose yards, Just get what's there and get us
in a move the chains a little bit. Joe Burrow
makes up and happen on second down, third down, whatever
it is. And now they're taking some more chances and
they're having some more players that are getting negative yards
(05:44):
in the running game. But you can do that when
Chase Brown's popping thirty yarders or twenty yarders. It's just
a it's a little bit of a different approach. And
any anytime that guy could get the ball in his
hands more, it's better. The farmer was concerning that was
one of the knocks on him coming out of college.
But I guess you kind of get a little break
there because they didn't recover it, and hopefully he will
(06:05):
be a little more cognizant of that and lock up
on future runs. You just can't be putting the ball
on the ground.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
What'd you do for your mom's birthday? Send flowers? You
take her to get a nice dinner. What's the plan.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
A center A very heartfelt text. But tomorrow night, Tomorrow night,
big big party with a lot of her friends where
you know, Friday night we rented a room and a
lot of her friends, a lot of family going to
come celebrate the IDEA.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Very heartfelt text. Well, very good, Tell your mom happy birthday.
Thank you as always, Jay, we do appreciate
Speaker 2 (06:41):
It all right, Thanks both
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