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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
All right, there you go, five after five ESPN fifteen
thirty Imager, thank you so much for listening today. We
have been busy and it continues. FC Cincinnati has to
wait the MLS Cup playoffs. The two wild card games
are behind this and son, so now easy for me
to say. The playoffs about to begin in earnest. Starting
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tomorrow night, Leannel Messi will make his MLS postseason debut
first round. By the way, the first match of the
opening round, you could watch for free on Apple TV
or online at.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
TV dot Apple dot com. That includes Monday night.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
FC Cincinnati will host New York City first game of
a best of three series. Six forty five is when
the game starts and joining us. I was so excited
to have Chris Whittingham on with this, and and then
I went to his X feed and he's got his
predictions for the entire MLS Cup playoffs and he has
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our team losing so reluctantly high Chris.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Oh Man, I guess that's why on college game Day
they don't have Kirk hurstreet picked the game that he's calling.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Because then you guys are gonna think I'm hopelessly biased
to get you. No, it was just the way that
it was, just the way that I looked at the
bracket and how I saw the game. Now I see
the series.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
I was really mostly just trying to look for an
upset somewhere in the East. I didn't think it was
coming from Miami or or from Columbus. And I do
think there was a slight bit of concern about the
way that Cincinnati entered the playoffs from a form standpoint.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
So that's why I went for it. I mean no
harm by it, I promise.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I totally understand, and it's a completely fair perspective.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
We were talking earlier.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
You know, FC Cincinnati's last game against Philadelphia didn't have
anything any bearing on their postseason seeding. They've been locked
into the three for a while, and yet I felt
like it was badly needed, if for no other reason,
just to rid the taste that was in everybody's mouth
from the previous few weeks with the way things are
kind of unfolded and unraveled.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Yeah, I mean, you look at since my actually twenty three.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
FC Cincinnati closed the season with three wins in their
last twelve games.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
There's seven defeats in that bunch as well, and.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
There just seems to be a search for an answer
that had been there during the summer.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
If you looked during the summer, the run of form
is absurd.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
A seven game winning streak, nine wins and ten eleven
wins in fourteen, or excuse me, twelve wins in fourteen,
and there really were some real continuity there. And Cincinnati,
for me, or a team that I've always felt we're
always there to find a way, and it's kind of
remarkable how much that narrative turned from when the club began,
but the last two years under Pat Nowtan there there's
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always a solution, there's.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Always a way to find that key goal and a
key moment. And yet there's just something about the way.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
That they closed the season that just has me that
little bit worried.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
And I think the biggest reason why is luchow Acosta
is doing his thing. He's having another great season.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
I think if Cincinnati had finished a little bit higher
up the table and won a few more games, there
would have been a more serious conversation about him.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Winning the MVP. I think the question is is that
Cincinnati in.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
The past have had those secondary and tertiary answers to
figure out how to score goals, and I just don't
think there's that one reliable player that's doing that job
alongsign him right now.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
So that is my concern for them going into these playoffs.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
And obviously the Miaska absence, the Haikland absence, they've found
ways to replace them personnel wise, but the question is.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Are they hitting the same level.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
And you have to say, based on the results that
there's still work to do there, but maybe the playoffs
is the best time to find that run of four.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Those concerns would be there regardless of opponent. What does
New York City do specifically that presents a problem.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Well, I think the biggest thing is that they have
found their stride. They also kind of went on a
really long run without winning a game. They win nine
games without winning, and then they've found a striker from
probably their least likely source. They've spent a lot of
money on attacking players, but they found this costa Rican player,
Jim Alonzo Martinez, who is absolutely stepped up and I've
seen him in person a few times.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Just looks like a player that is ready to score.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
A goal at any given time and has that center
forwards instinct, and he is really finding his stride, and
I think there was always a team there that had
a lot of talent. New York City spends among the
most money in the league. They have a club that
are affiliating with Manchester City, and so they really try
and invest in young players, and the issue with that
is that you don't often have those players developed quickly
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enough to win games in the here and now. But
the problem with that is if they do figure it
out and that potential is found, all of a sudden,
they have a really good team. And I really like
they're attacking pieces, namely Martinez. So I mentioned Maxim Morales
is thirty six years old and back for another run.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
That defense is always pretty rock solid.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
I think that two met midfield of Sands and Parks
might be among the very best in the league. So
it was always for them about finding pieces to put together,
and I do think that they've started to figure out
the best way to combine them. You mentioned kind of
being locked into a seat. They were also really hoping
for a good result elsewhere, if they were going to
finish higher up than the standings. In that final game
of the season. So I like where New York City
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is at. I feel like they're in a position to
take advantage of maybe some of the Cincinnati weakninesses.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
I watched Miami and Columbus in early October, biggest regular
season MLS match maybe ever, and it just, you know,
sometimes you watch a game and you're like, you know what,
these are the best two teams, And I hate to
say this, but it just it feels to me.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
I don't know, I hate to say it, like if.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
You're looking at objectively, if you're looking at the East,
if I if you get the field and I get
Columbus in Miami, I like my chances.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Yeah, I completely agree with that, and I think Sincinnati
can definitely post Columbus to problem. I think there is
they are the team that probably slow down Columbus besides Miami.
Even for me from the teams out west, I know
that form has a lot to do with that, but
Cincinnati Columbus is that game just has that extra juice
in it that can make what maybe is a talent
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and an overall cohesion differential not matter. And so I
do think if Cincinnati get through this round and base
Columbus in the next round, even though it's a way,
it's a rivalry game, and it's one of those where
it gets nasty and it gets different and it brings
that playoff intensity.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Out of both teams.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
They're actually gonna have rogalry games in both halves of
the next round because Miami is potentially on a collision
course with Orlando.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
But yeah, I actually think that if not.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
For Inter Miami and if not for Lena Messi stealing
all the headlines, maybe the Pans and Cincinnati will enjoy
the fact that Miami exists, because otherwise Columbus will get
all of the praise from all of the national soccer
media because of the way that they built that team,
because the way that it's coached by Wilf Nancie, the
style of soccer is so good. And so I do
think that Columbus are kind of unfortunate. They are still
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winning trophies, they're having a great time, but they're not
maybe getting that national limeline because Messi takes them so
much to the oxygen and deservedly so.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
And I sort of feel like here and I'm guilty
of it, we sound like spoiled children. Nefci Cincinnati is
a three seed. They've had, relatively speaking, a really good year.
They've dealt with injuries, they've they've got home field in
the first round of the postseason will give them more
more than a puncher's chance in the second round no
matter who they play. And we're kind of entering the
postseason with frownie faces. We're spoiled here at Chris and
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maybe we shouldn't be.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yeah, I mean, it's it serves as a reminder of
what life was like before Pat Nowta and the company
took over. And you know, this is a team that
was historically bad.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
In the history of Major League Soccer.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Despite all the infrastructure that was there, despite all the
support that there is in Cincinnati, it's become one of
the very best markets.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
I can't wait to go.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Back on Monday, because I haven't been this season, and
I'm really looking forward to seeing Cincinnati and that atmosphere
person again. But you have to remember that Lucio Acosta
was part of a team that was among the very
worst in Major League soccer, and he has engineered along
with the coaching staff, along with the technical staff, that
has brought in a whole new group of players and
the way that this team has been built that all
of a sudden now they are a team that can
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compete in the difficult end of Major League Soccer. And
they finished with the best record in Major League Soccer
and that is genuinely something to celebrate for this club.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
The question will be is can they rise to another level?
Speaker 1 (07:59):
They had that chance to do so last season and
they couldn't, Columbus ultimately going to the final and winning it,
and I do think that Cincinnati need to find a
different gear. And it just comes down to, in my view,
those top level players you bring in. Kevin Telsey, who
was kind of meant to be the Brandon Vasquez replacement,
didn't get off to a good start, or got off
to a good start, but hasn't really continued that level
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of form. Since who are the players besides Vacosta and
Autoshano that are really going to be the ones that
lead the way?
Speaker 4 (08:25):
And that ultimately is the big question that this have
to answer.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
But yeah, in terms of the level of joy and
in terms of what you can expect from an MLS season,
finishing fifth is pretty solid. The run you guys got
in the summer of all those wins powdered on top
of each other, and they're all in kind of different
and more interesting ways time after time, smashing Miami six
to one and probably one of the results of the season.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
There definitely is a lot to remember and celebrate from
this season.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
The question is kind of continue, and obviously, if you're
a fan, that's what you want.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
We'll find out. Starting on Monday night, Chris has the call.
FC Cincinnati against New York starts at six forty five,
the first game of every opening round series.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Free to watch on Apple TV.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Also find it online TV dot Apple dot com, and
obviously you could watch Messi's MLS postseason debut for free
online at Apple dot com or in the AppleTV app.
I'm glad you're calling this match because it means we
get to have you on.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
I appreciate the time, Chris, thanks so.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Much, Thanks Bo And again, six forty five on Monday,
not the most conventional start time, but I want to
see those stands full on seff for kickoff.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
You know what, when it's October and you're playing outdoors,
if you can even get a shred of sunlight, that's
a good thing. So we'll take you in. Enjoy your
time intown. Have a great call. Thanks so much.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Thanks Boight.
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