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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Fifteen thirty twenty two after four o'clock. This is ESPN
fifteen thirty on Moegor. On Thursdays, we spend a few
minutes with our friend Jay Morrison, who's with Bengals Talk
dot Com under the SI Umbrella and on x at
by Jay Morrison. Also part of the Growler Podcast with
our guy Paul Danner.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Junior Jay is with us. Now, Hello Jay, Hey Mo.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
How are you doing today?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I'm well, last week it was your mom, two weeks
ago was you and any other birthdays we need to
talk about today.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Not today, Okay? Dad on Monday, brother on Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Wow. Wow. October busy month in the Morrison family.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
All right, good stuff, cook. I. So the Bengals won
their last two games, and yet there's I think there's apprehension.
There's apprehension about the offense. Should there be apprehension about
the Philadelphia Eagles?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
What about their defense?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Or just about the Eagles in general? Have some It's
a step up, no question. You're talking the last two games,
the Giants and the Browns. The Eagles can say the
same thing, but the Eagles their last two games, Browns
and Giants, these two teams just are flipping opponents. So
it is going to be a step up. But this
(01:17):
Eagles team is just not I don't know that they
scare you defensively, They're gonna make you work for it.
They're gonna take away the explosives, and they try to
keep everything in front of them. They don't blits a lot,
they don't take a lot of chances, and as a result,
they don't take the ball away. They only have two
turnovers this year. I looked it up through in the
Super Bowl era, there've only been six other teams that
(01:39):
have made it through six games with only two turnovers,
and if they fail to get one against the Bengals,
they'll be one of only two teams they have two
turnovers through seven games. So they do a lot of
things well. They don't do much great. They have a
couple of rookie corners that that's something that you would
think Jamar and te can exploit. But they're both playing
really well, so it's kind kind of a mere matchup.
(02:01):
The Bengals have a lot of high paid talent on offense.
The Eagles do too. They've got a lot of young
talent on defense. They've struggled. They kind of found their
footing in the last two weeks. These teams are really
really similar for being opposite conference teams that only see
each other once every four years.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Bengals are coming off for performance where they held Nick
Chubb at two yards of carry. They were good stopping
New York's running game for what that's worth. With the
exception of the overtime run by Derrick Henry, they did
a good job against him, and so you know, they're
healthier up front. It would be a stretch, I guess
to say that they're a really good run defense, but
(02:38):
they've certainly got better. Have they gotten better enough to
at least slow down Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yeah, we'll see. See that's the thing with Derrick Henry,
you knew what you were keying on and what we
were able to take away with the two threats or
the don't duel threat that the takuon Barkley is you
can focus on taking the runaway and then they start
throwing the switch screen passes or short little crossers and
and he can really get you that way. And I
don't I don't buy too much in it just stopping
(03:08):
Nick Chubb holding him to two yards per carry. He
hadn't played a game in thirteen months. Yes, it's he's
still a great back, but it was kind of Nick
Chubb light. It wasn't the full Nick Schubb last week.
So this is a huge test because you can't just
key on Saquon and and the kind of the way
they did against the Ravens. Aj Brown and Devonte Smith
(03:31):
are legit top tier wide receivers in this league, and
you've got to You've got to spread that concern out
all around. It's a huge game for for Cam Taylor Britt,
for DJ Turner. I think they're going to be in
single coverage a lot. You're going to see that the
Bengals and man coverage a lot. Those guys are going
to have to lock those guys down.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
How are we feeling about Gino Stone in Orlando Brown?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Yeah, they were out there today. I just saw Orlando
and in the locker room. He's come out of the
training room. I wouldn't expect him to be honest, but
that's how he's feeling. He thinks feeling great. He seems
in a really good mood. I think I think both
these guys have a shot to play this week. You
do wonder about Gino with how painful it is and
how he can hold up. It's not like he's been
(04:13):
playing great anyhow, So maybe they do spell him a
little bit more with Jordan Battle, but Orlando's the one
they really need. There's just no real significant depths behind there.
I mean, he got Cody Ford that could step in,
and he's probably better suited to play guard. He held
up okay against Cleveland, but you don't want to go
against this Eagles defense that does have nineteen sacks and
(04:34):
they spread it out. They don't have one big rusher.
But you need Orlando Brown to play in this game
much more than genostone.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Evan McPherson is ten for seventeen since the beginning of
last year from beyond fifty yards. One of those was
obviously the kick against Baltimore, which I don't put on him,
but he was. He was awesome his first two years
right from beyond fifty and that's sort of shaped maybe
play calling strategy, that sort of thing. Are they are
They have a little bit more confidence in him from
(05:02):
fifty plus than he deserves for them to have.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Right now.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Yeah, I don't know. I mean, he has been so good.
I wasn't I knew he'd had a couple of misses lately,
I didn't realize ten of seventeen from fifty plus. You
think back to the Jacksonville game and the clutch when
he had in that game, and I still think they
have as much confidence in him. But yeah, that's something
to watch going forward, and the kicking game will always
(05:29):
be something to watch when Jake Elliot's on the other sideline.
I know a lot of Bengal fans are still mad
that he's not in the Bengals jersey right now, but yeah,
I don't think that they will hesitates if it's in
the fifty yard fifty to fifty six range and they
need a field goal. I don't think they're gonna worry
about his last seventeen picks. They're going to worry about
that one that he's lined up for.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Great, So Jake Elliott's going to bang home like a
fifty eight yarder to win it, and I'm gonna have
to deal with that. Thanks so much. Good with the
good reminder, Jay, awesome stuff as always, man, Thank you
so much. All Right, that's our guy, Jay Morrison. He
is Bengals Talk dot Com along with James over there.
You got James Rapine, you got Elise Jesse, you got
Russ Heltman, you got you got Jay Morrison, uh and
(06:12):
probably like nine or ten other people.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Bengals Talk dot Com.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Uh. FC Cincinnati plays on Monday. This is our last
show before that. I mean, we're on Monday, but it's
football show, so it's our last chance to uh talk
about the game and talk about the season and the
playoffs and so much more.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Jeff Burding's gonna stop by. Well, so you could use
football as a double Chandra. We could. We got football
in the Natti.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
We're not going to mention the game, but I mean
it is a a show sort of devoted to American football,
and like we did like three minutes on college basketball
on Monday. I mean, it's not like we're just we're
gonna ignore the soccer game. But it's our first, our
last chance to devote large swaths of time to the
MLS Cup playoffs, which are already underway and they begin
(06:57):
for FC Cincinnati on Monday. Jeff Burding's gonna stop by.
I spent a few minutes to talk about the season.
Next ortosin Cimo Egor Show ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.
You've been listening to football Inninnatti on the official home
of the Bengals, Cincinnatis, ESPN fifteen thirty
Fifteen thirty twenty two after four o'clock. This is ESPN
fifteen thirty on Moegor. On Thursdays, we spend a few
minutes with our friend Jay Morrison, who's with Bengals Talk
dot Com under the SI Umbrella and on x at
by Jay Morrison. Also part of the Growler Podcast with
our guy Paul Danner.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Junior Jay is with us. Now, Hello Jay, Hey Mo.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
How are you doing today?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I'm well, last week it was your mom, two weeks
ago was you and any other birthdays we need to
talk about today.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Not today, Okay? Dad on Monday, brother on Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Wow. Wow. October busy month in the Morrison family.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
All right, good stuff, cook. I. So the Bengals won
their last two games, and yet there's I think there's apprehension.
There's apprehension about the offense. Should there be apprehension about
the Philadelphia Eagles?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
What about their defense?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Or just about the Eagles in general? Have some It's
a step up, no question. You're talking the last two games,
the Giants and the Browns. The Eagles can say the
same thing, but the Eagles their last two games, Browns
and Giants, these two teams just are flipping opponents. So
it is going to be a step up. But this
(01:17):
Eagles team is just not I don't know that they
scare you defensively, They're gonna make you work for it.
They're gonna take away the explosives, and they try to
keep everything in front of them. They don't blits a lot,
they don't take a lot of chances, and as a result,
they don't take the ball away. They only have two
turnovers this year. I looked it up through in the
Super Bowl era, there've only been six other teams that
(01:39):
have made it through six games with only two turnovers,
and if they fail to get one against the Bengals,
they'll be one of only two teams they have two
turnovers through seven games. So they do a lot of
things well. They don't do much great. They have a
couple of rookie corners that that's something that you would
think Jamar and te can exploit. But they're both playing
really well, so it's kind kind of a mere matchup.
(02:01):
The Bengals have a lot of high paid talent on offense.
The Eagles do too. They've got a lot of young
talent on defense. They've struggled. They kind of found their
footing in the last two weeks. These teams are really
really similar for being opposite conference teams that only see
each other once every four years.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Bengals are coming off for performance where they held Nick
Chubb at two yards of carry. They were good stopping
New York's running game for what that's worth. With the
exception of the overtime run by Derrick Henry, they did
a good job against him, and so you know, they're
healthier up front. It would be a stretch, I guess
to say that they're a really good run defense, but
(02:38):
they've certainly got better. Have they gotten better enough to
at least slow down Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yeah, we'll see. See that's the thing with Derrick Henry,
you knew what you were keying on and what we
were able to take away with the two threats or
the don't duel threat that the takuon Barkley is you
can focus on taking the runaway and then they start
throwing the switch screen passes or short little crossers and
and he can really get you that way. And I
don't I don't buy too much in it just stopping
(03:08):
Nick Chubb holding him to two yards per carry. He
hadn't played a game in thirteen months. Yes, it's he's
still a great back, but it was kind of Nick
Chubb light. It wasn't the full Nick Schubb last week.
So this is a huge test because you can't just
key on Saquon and and the kind of the way
they did against the Ravens. Aj Brown and Devonte Smith
(03:31):
are legit top tier wide receivers in this league, and
you've got to You've got to spread that concern out
all around. It's a huge game for for Cam Taylor Britt,
for DJ Turner. I think they're going to be in
single coverage a lot. You're going to see that the
Bengals and man coverage a lot. Those guys are going
to have to lock those guys down.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
How are we feeling about Gino Stone in Orlando Brown?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Yeah, they were out there today. I just saw Orlando
and in the locker room. He's come out of the
training room. I wouldn't expect him to be honest, but
that's how he's feeling. He thinks feeling great. He seems
in a really good mood. I think I think both
these guys have a shot to play this week. You
do wonder about Gino with how painful it is and
how he can hold up. It's not like he's been
(04:13):
playing great anyhow, So maybe they do spell him a
little bit more with Jordan Battle, but Orlando's the one
they really need. There's just no real significant depths behind there.
I mean, he got Cody Ford that could step in,
and he's probably better suited to play guard. He held
up okay against Cleveland, but you don't want to go
against this Eagles defense that does have nineteen sacks and
(04:34):
they spread it out. They don't have one big rusher.
But you need Orlando Brown to play in this game
much more than genostone.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Evan McPherson is ten for seventeen since the beginning of
last year from beyond fifty yards. One of those was
obviously the kick against Baltimore, which I don't put on him,
but he was. He was awesome his first two years
right from beyond fifty and that's sort of shaped maybe
play calling strategy, that sort of thing. Are they are
They have a little bit more confidence in him from
(05:02):
fifty plus than he deserves for them to have.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Right now.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Yeah, I don't know. I mean, he has been so good.
I wasn't I knew he'd had a couple of misses lately,
I didn't realize ten of seventeen from fifty plus. You
think back to the Jacksonville game and the clutch when
he had in that game, and I still think they
have as much confidence in him. But yeah, that's something
to watch going forward, and the kicking game will always
(05:29):
be something to watch when Jake Elliot's on the other sideline.
I know a lot of Bengal fans are still mad
that he's not in the Bengals jersey right now, but yeah,
I don't think that they will hesitates if it's in
the fifty yard fifty to fifty six range and they
need a field goal. I don't think they're gonna worry
about his last seventeen picks. They're going to worry about
that one that he's lined up for.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Great, So Jake Elliott's going to bang home like a
fifty eight yarder to win it, and I'm gonna have
to deal with that. Thanks so much. Good with the
good reminder, Jay, awesome stuff as always, man, Thank you
so much. All Right, that's our guy, Jay Morrison. He
is Bengals Talk dot Com along with James over there.
You got James Rapine, you got Elise Jesse, you got
Russ Heltman, you got you got Jay Morrison, uh and
(06:12):
probably like nine or ten other people.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Bengals Talk dot Com.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Uh. FC Cincinnati plays on Monday. This is our last
show before that. I mean, we're on Monday, but it's
football show, so it's our last chance to uh talk
about the game and talk about the season and the
playoffs and so much more.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Jeff Burding's gonna stop by. Well, so you could use
football as a double Chandra. We could. We got football
in the Natti.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
We're not going to mention the game, but I mean
it is a a show sort of devoted to American football,
and like we did like three minutes on college basketball
on Monday. I mean, it's not like we're just we're
gonna ignore the soccer game. But it's our first, our
last chance to devote large swaths of time to the
MLS Cup playoffs, which are already underway and they begin
(06:57):
for FC Cincinnati on Monday. Jeff Burding's gonna stop by.
I spent a few minutes to talk about the season.
Next ortosin Cimo Egor Show ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.
You've been listening to football Inninnatti on the official home
of the Bengals, Cincinnatis, ESPN fifteen thirty
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