October 24, 2024 • 10 mins
Robert Weintraub writes a weekly Bengals column for Cincinnati Magazine. We discussed this week's column, and Sunday's tilt against the Eagles.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is football in Thennetti run to you in part
by blood Light and by Skyline Shiley on the official
home of the Bengals, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
You heard Dan Horde there and before we get to
a Robert Winthrop, who's standing by Cincinnati Magazine, Dan obviously,
you know, getting ready for a busy weekend. He got
uc in Colorado on Saturday night, which is a late
night kickoff, and then he's gonna call Bengals Eagles on
like a few hours sleep.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
And like, Dan is a unicorn and an.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Outlier in this day and age where I literally have
never heard anybody say that he sucks. Right, you go
on social media and you know every broad Bob Costas
just took a beating for how we call it, an
American League Division series, and you'll go on social media
to al Michael's the greatest NFL broadcaster of all time.
People will be crushing him. And you can find people
(00:54):
who had crushed Marty Brenneman when he was still the
voice of the Reds. I've never seen anybody do that
to Dan, which is a testament into ay, how good
he is, be how likable he is, and the reason
I mentioned this, I retweeted this today. Dan Horde the recipient,
obviously Dan you probably know, went to Syracuse. Named by
the new House Sports Media Center at Syracuse University. This
(01:15):
year's recipient of the Marty Glickman Award. Now Marty Glickman,
a legendary broadcaster, was the voice of the New York Knicks.
He was the voice of the New York Giants. He
did some hockey, went to Syracuse and was known for
being a mentor of younger broadcasters, and so they named
this award after him. I think it goes back to
twenty thirteen and Dan was announced as the recipient of
(01:40):
this year's award, which has been given to, among others,
Bob Costas and Sean McDonough and Mike Turrico and Beth Mowens.
Marv Albert Dick Stockton won it last year. If you
go to my twitter feed, I retweeted their announcement. The
way Dan found out he won this award was awesome,
but it is extraordinarily deserving, and so congratulations to somebody.
(02:01):
I'm no play by play guy, but has certainly gone
out of his way to mentor me and excited to
work with this weekend in Boulder. All right, now, our
guy Robert win Trump is with his weekly Bengals column
Cincinnati Magazine dot com.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Hi Robert, Well, let me just throw in mo that
I also went to Syracuse. I also am a huge
fan of Dan Horde.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
I actually had a chance to meet and talk to
on a couple of occasions Marty Glickman in his dotage.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
But it was a highlight for me.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
And let me just add on to what you said.
Nobody is more deserving than Dan of this award. Nobody
does a better job. The man is excellent. I think
we all know that, and we're very lucky to have
him in the Bengals radio booth.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
There is, there's no question about that. Have you won
any awards from your alma mater?
Speaker 4 (02:48):
They gave me one for leaving, which I thought was
nice and compliment nice said, here's your diploment. Now, let's
never see you again. And once in a while they
invited me back. Just slap me around a bit more
and remind them of why I left in the first place.
But otherwise we have a great relationship.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yes, my alma mater could not want less to do
with me. They're almost embarrassed. They actually they would prefer
that I didn't mention that I went to the University
of Dayton, and could you blame them. Let's talk about
the Bengals. You've written about them this week. They've won twice,
twice in a row. They've won ugly. Ugly wins count
the same as pretty wins. But they've got to be
(03:26):
better offensively. How do they get better offensively?
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Well, given that you went to the University of Dayton,
the flyers are the nickname there and they need to
get back to flying, oh passing, as in throwing the
football a little bit better than they have now. That
was just a nice little way to segue off of
your last comment. They do need to run the ball
more efficiently. That's what we saw them do in the
(03:51):
early days of this season. They seem like a long
time ago, and of course that's because they were losing games.
But their offense was clicking, and a large part of
that was because they ran the ball very efficiently, not
necessarily for tons of yards, not necessarily even you know,
as we always like to talk about a commitment to
the run, it wasn't even so much that. But when
they did run, they were doing so efficiently. They were
(04:12):
getting it done wide and between the tackles, and they've
gotten away from that the last couple of weeks. Part
of that is the way they were defended. Part of
that was a little bit of trying to force a
couple of passes downfield when they weren't there, I feel like,
and some of it was just I don't know, bad
juju hard to say exactly. You never really know what
this team. It's kind of mysterious. Half the time we're
(04:34):
watching him and seems like they're going great at one
aspect of the game or another, and then it just
falls off a cliff. So we're hoping to find, at
least for the first time this season, the game where
they play a good offensive and a good defensive game
in the same week. Wouldn't that be nice? And I
think it would, you know, start right up front by
running the football and getting back to that efficient way
(04:55):
that they were doing it in those first early games
of the season.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
So here's my silly eye idea.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
I you know, they dressed Remaine Burton in the game
against Cleveland and they put him out on the field
for the kneel downs, and I don't know what his
Pro Football Focus grade was for those Neil downs, but
they didn't he didn't screw them up.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I've maybe brought this up to you before, but in
the Kansas City game, you know, they they hit paydirt
with him. He connected downfield on a pass, and like,
I hear what people say about his maturity, and maybe
he doesn't know the playbook, but they are addressing him.
If you're going to dress him, why not use him
if if for no other reason, the rundown field and
take somebody with him and maybe clear traffic for the
other guys.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Yeah. Well, you know, it's funny because I feel like
coaches in the NFL kind of get, you know, into
their heads, well, we're going to do X or Y
this week. We want to feature this player or this
scheme or whatever, and then the game starts and somehow
that all goes away, whether it's the heat of battle
or the game script or just you know, they just
kind of forget about it.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Hard to know.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
It seems like Burton was in that sort of you know,
glide path. He was going to start to become more
of a regular part at least a little bit of
the offense, and then it just kind of fell off
the map a little bit, and I'm not sure why
if they thought that was a matchup thing. Obviously, the
Browns have excellent corners, and maybe they just thought they
wanted a little bit more attention to detail out there.
(06:15):
Hard to say, but yeah, I think you're seeing the
limitations of having andre Yoshibas as your number three. Not
that he hasn't done a good job, especially relative to
where he's been you know, picked and his sort of
you know image coming into the league, but you know,
he hasn't been getting opened nearly as much. There are
some details that have eluded him, and I think it's
(06:37):
a guy who they have a lot riding on, really,
and if you hook at the future t Higgins free
future that is in Burton, it really is kind of
high time to get him groomed and get him into
the game and let him take his lumps. That's fine too,
but you know, it might be simply the fact that
if they were let's say five and two and not
(06:58):
three and four and desperate for every game right now,
they might feel like they have a little bit more
of a you know, a safety net to do that.
But I think right now you have to see what
you got in this guy and get him on the
field a little bit more. We talked the same way
kind of about Jordan Battle a little bit when he
was buried, and you know, they threw him right into
the deep end of the pool against the Ravens and
(07:18):
it didn't look great. But you know, he's rebounded and
had a couple of solid games since then, and he's
ramping up a little bit better, and I think you'll
see Burton start to get on the field. You know,
we have all these high hopes for these kids coming
out of college, but you know, unless you're a top
ten to fifteen pick, you have to remember these guys
have a steep learning curve and it's not that surprising
that he's not quite ready to take the NFL field
(07:40):
to make an impact just yet.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
But I think the time is ripe.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
For him to get on that step stool and start
climbing that ladder.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
All right, My kudos for Dan Horde took up some
of our time. So one more have they fixed? Have
they fixed their defense or did the NFL schedule makers
fix it for them?
Speaker 3 (07:58):
A little bit of both.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
You know, always liked to throw the props to New
York and let them do that. And they certainly played
a couple of grim offenses against the Giants and the Browns,
but and they'll have a much deeper test this week,
there's no doubt about that. But you know, there were
some positive signs. The tackling has certainly improved, and that's
where he looked really first and foremost. The kind of
effort that they were putting out and covering those early
(08:20):
games was, you know, left a lot to be desired.
They were missing tackles, they were slow to the ball,
they weren't all rallying to the football the way he
liked to see. And I thought you saw that for
sure in the last couple of weeks at a much
higher clip, and that's certainly encouraging. Whether or not they'll
be able to necessarily bring down a player like Saquon
Barkley on the regular remains to be seen, but you know,
they've done a very good job. They did a good
(08:42):
job against Derreck Henry until that last carry in overtime,
which we never should have seen. And you know, there
was a lot of talk about Nick Chubb going right
back onto the field and dominating the Bengals like he
always did, and he was essentially a non factor for
most of the games. So you know, they know what
they're after. The Eagles right now really are entirely game
(09:03):
planning around Barkley, and if they come out and want
to establish the pass and you know, kind of league
Barkley as a as a decoy or a sidelight, that
kind of plays into Cincinnati's hands. I feel like, So,
you know, I think it's that's where the game will
be decided, certainly in that particular side of the ball.
And you know, you have to like the Bengals chances
to at least control him and not necessarily give up
(09:24):
the kind of yards that the Giants did against the
Eagles last week when they ran for nearly three hundred yards.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Good stuff. We'll talk next week, my man.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Thank you so much, looking forward to it, and congratulations
to Dan again.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Great jet, no question about that.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Robert Wintrup readas weekly Bengals column at Cincinnatimagazine dot com.
We are three thirty five thirty on ESPN fifteen thirty
Bengals and Eagles Sunday one o'clock kick nine o five
pregame at the Holy Grail. We are woefully short on time,
but I don't want to let the week come and
go without our guy. Mike is on hold, and he's
(09:58):
been on hold all after No, No, we're not here tomorrow,
and I promise.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
You here would be.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
I don't know what he's doing, Mike. Mike, you're on
the radio. Well, what are you doing? You're on the radio?
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Okay, No, Mike is berating somebody.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
I was gonna let him come on to talk about
the World Series for a minute. Mike.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
It didn't work out the way we would have hoped.
H Mike is okay. I'm rooting for his Dodgers. I
think the Yankees gonna win the World Series. I go
Yankees in six. I think it's gonna be awfully fun
to watch these two teams play. And if you're not
into it, that's okay. We're into chatting with one of
the experts from Orthos Cincy about a couple of Bengals injuries.
(10:37):
Next on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
You've been listening to football in thenetti on the official
home of the Bengals, Cincinnatis. ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati's esp
This is football in Thennetti run to you in part
by blood Light and by Skyline Shiley on the official
home of the Bengals, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
You heard Dan Horde there and before we get to
a Robert Winthrop, who's standing by Cincinnati Magazine, Dan obviously,
you know, getting ready for a busy weekend. He got
uc in Colorado on Saturday night, which is a late
night kickoff, and then he's gonna call Bengals Eagles on
like a few hours sleep.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
And like, Dan is a unicorn and an.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Outlier in this day and age where I literally have
never heard anybody say that he sucks. Right, you go
on social media and you know every broad Bob Costas
just took a beating for how we call it, an
American League Division series, and you'll go on social media
to al Michael's the greatest NFL broadcaster of all time.
People will be crushing him. And you can find people
(00:54):
who had crushed Marty Brenneman when he was still the
voice of the Reds. I've never seen anybody do that
to Dan, which is a testament into ay, how good
he is, be how likable he is, and the reason
I mentioned this, I retweeted this today. Dan Horde the recipient,
obviously Dan you probably know, went to Syracuse. Named by
the new House Sports Media Center at Syracuse University. This
(01:15):
year's recipient of the Marty Glickman Award. Now Marty Glickman,
a legendary broadcaster, was the voice of the New York Knicks.
He was the voice of the New York Giants. He
did some hockey, went to Syracuse and was known for
being a mentor of younger broadcasters, and so they named
this award after him. I think it goes back to
twenty thirteen and Dan was announced as the recipient of
(01:40):
this year's award, which has been given to, among others,
Bob Costas and Sean McDonough and Mike Turrico and Beth Mowens.
Marv Albert Dick Stockton won it last year. If you
go to my twitter feed, I retweeted their announcement. The
way Dan found out he won this award was awesome,
but it is extraordinarily deserving, and so congratulations to somebody.
(02:01):
I'm no play by play guy, but has certainly gone
out of his way to mentor me and excited to
work with this weekend in Boulder. All right, now, our
guy Robert win Trump is with his weekly Bengals column
Cincinnati Magazine dot com.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Hi Robert, Well, let me just throw in mo that
I also went to Syracuse. I also am a huge
fan of Dan Horde.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
I actually had a chance to meet and talk to
on a couple of occasions Marty Glickman in his dotage.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
But it was a highlight for me.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
And let me just add on to what you said.
Nobody is more deserving than Dan of this award. Nobody
does a better job. The man is excellent. I think
we all know that, and we're very lucky to have
him in the Bengals radio booth.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
There is, there's no question about that. Have you won
any awards from your alma mater?
Speaker 4 (02:48):
They gave me one for leaving, which I thought was
nice and compliment nice said, here's your diploment. Now, let's
never see you again. And once in a while they
invited me back. Just slap me around a bit more
and remind them of why I left in the first place.
But otherwise we have a great relationship.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yes, my alma mater could not want less to do
with me. They're almost embarrassed. They actually they would prefer
that I didn't mention that I went to the University
of Dayton, and could you blame them. Let's talk about
the Bengals. You've written about them this week. They've won twice,
twice in a row. They've won ugly. Ugly wins count
the same as pretty wins. But they've got to be
(03:26):
better offensively. How do they get better offensively?
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Well, given that you went to the University of Dayton,
the flyers are the nickname there and they need to
get back to flying, oh passing, as in throwing the
football a little bit better than they have now. That
was just a nice little way to segue off of
your last comment. They do need to run the ball
more efficiently. That's what we saw them do in the
(03:51):
early days of this season. They seem like a long
time ago, and of course that's because they were losing games.
But their offense was clicking, and a large part of
that was because they ran the ball very efficiently, not
necessarily for tons of yards, not necessarily even you know,
as we always like to talk about a commitment to
the run, it wasn't even so much that. But when
they did run, they were doing so efficiently. They were
(04:12):
getting it done wide and between the tackles, and they've
gotten away from that the last couple of weeks. Part
of that is the way they were defended. Part of
that was a little bit of trying to force a
couple of passes downfield when they weren't there, I feel like,
and some of it was just I don't know, bad
juju hard to say exactly. You never really know what
this team. It's kind of mysterious. Half the time we're
(04:34):
watching him and seems like they're going great at one
aspect of the game or another, and then it just
falls off a cliff. So we're hoping to find, at
least for the first time this season, the game where
they play a good offensive and a good defensive game
in the same week. Wouldn't that be nice? And I
think it would, you know, start right up front by
running the football and getting back to that efficient way
(04:55):
that they were doing it in those first early games
of the season.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
So here's my silly eye idea.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
I you know, they dressed Remaine Burton in the game
against Cleveland and they put him out on the field
for the kneel downs, and I don't know what his
Pro Football Focus grade was for those Neil downs, but
they didn't he didn't screw them up.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I've maybe brought this up to you before, but in
the Kansas City game, you know, they they hit paydirt
with him. He connected downfield on a pass, and like,
I hear what people say about his maturity, and maybe
he doesn't know the playbook, but they are addressing him.
If you're going to dress him, why not use him
if if for no other reason, the rundown field and
take somebody with him and maybe clear traffic for the
other guys.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Yeah. Well, you know, it's funny because I feel like
coaches in the NFL kind of get, you know, into
their heads, well, we're going to do X or Y
this week. We want to feature this player or this
scheme or whatever, and then the game starts and somehow
that all goes away, whether it's the heat of battle
or the game script or just you know, they just
kind of forget about it.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Hard to know.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
It seems like Burton was in that sort of you know,
glide path. He was going to start to become more
of a regular part at least a little bit of
the offense, and then it just kind of fell off
the map a little bit, and I'm not sure why
if they thought that was a matchup thing. Obviously, the
Browns have excellent corners, and maybe they just thought they
wanted a little bit more attention to detail out there.
(06:15):
Hard to say, but yeah, I think you're seeing the
limitations of having andre Yoshibas as your number three. Not
that he hasn't done a good job, especially relative to
where he's been you know, picked and his sort of
you know image coming into the league, but you know,
he hasn't been getting opened nearly as much. There are
some details that have eluded him, and I think it's
(06:37):
a guy who they have a lot riding on, really,
and if you hook at the future t Higgins free
future that is in Burton, it really is kind of
high time to get him groomed and get him into
the game and let him take his lumps. That's fine too,
but you know, it might be simply the fact that
if they were let's say five and two and not
(06:58):
three and four and desperate for every game right now,
they might feel like they have a little bit more
of a you know, a safety net to do that.
But I think right now you have to see what
you got in this guy and get him on the
field a little bit more. We talked the same way
kind of about Jordan Battle a little bit when he
was buried, and you know, they threw him right into
the deep end of the pool against the Ravens and
(07:18):
it didn't look great. But you know, he's rebounded and
had a couple of solid games since then, and he's
ramping up a little bit better, and I think you'll
see Burton start to get on the field. You know,
we have all these high hopes for these kids coming
out of college, but you know, unless you're a top
ten to fifteen pick, you have to remember these guys
have a steep learning curve and it's not that surprising
that he's not quite ready to take the NFL field
(07:40):
to make an impact just yet.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
But I think the time is ripe.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
For him to get on that step stool and start
climbing that ladder.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
All right, My kudos for Dan Horde took up some
of our time. So one more have they fixed? Have
they fixed their defense or did the NFL schedule makers
fix it for them?
Speaker 3 (07:58):
A little bit of both.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
You know, always liked to throw the props to New
York and let them do that. And they certainly played
a couple of grim offenses against the Giants and the Browns,
but and they'll have a much deeper test this week,
there's no doubt about that. But you know, there were
some positive signs. The tackling has certainly improved, and that's
where he looked really first and foremost. The kind of
effort that they were putting out and covering those early
(08:20):
games was, you know, left a lot to be desired.
They were missing tackles, they were slow to the ball,
they weren't all rallying to the football the way he
liked to see. And I thought you saw that for
sure in the last couple of weeks at a much
higher clip, and that's certainly encouraging. Whether or not they'll
be able to necessarily bring down a player like Saquon
Barkley on the regular remains to be seen, but you know,
they've done a very good job. They did a good
(08:42):
job against Derreck Henry until that last carry in overtime,
which we never should have seen. And you know, there
was a lot of talk about Nick Chubb going right
back onto the field and dominating the Bengals like he
always did, and he was essentially a non factor for
most of the games. So you know, they know what
they're after. The Eagles right now really are entirely game
(09:03):
planning around Barkley, and if they come out and want
to establish the pass and you know, kind of league
Barkley as a as a decoy or a sidelight, that
kind of plays into Cincinnati's hands. I feel like, So,
you know, I think it's that's where the game will
be decided, certainly in that particular side of the ball.
And you know, you have to like the Bengals chances
to at least control him and not necessarily give up
(09:24):
the kind of yards that the Giants did against the
Eagles last week when they ran for nearly three hundred yards.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Good stuff. We'll talk next week, my man.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Thank you so much, looking forward to it, and congratulations
to Dan again.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Great jet, no question about that.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Robert Wintrup readas weekly Bengals column at Cincinnatimagazine dot com.
We are three thirty five thirty on ESPN fifteen thirty
Bengals and Eagles Sunday one o'clock kick nine o five
pregame at the Holy Grail. We are woefully short on time,
but I don't want to let the week come and
go without our guy. Mike is on hold, and he's
(09:58):
been on hold all after No, No, we're not here tomorrow,
and I promise.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
You here would be.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
I don't know what he's doing, Mike. Mike, you're on
the radio. Well, what are you doing? You're on the radio?
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Okay, No, Mike is berating somebody.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
I was gonna let him come on to talk about
the World Series for a minute. Mike.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
It didn't work out the way we would have hoped.
H Mike is okay. I'm rooting for his Dodgers. I
think the Yankees gonna win the World Series. I go
Yankees in six. I think it's gonna be awfully fun
to watch these two teams play. And if you're not
into it, that's okay. We're into chatting with one of
the experts from Orthos Cincy about a couple of Bengals injuries.
(10:37):
Next on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
You've been listening to football in thenetti on the official
home of the Bengals, Cincinnatis. ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati's esp
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