December 4, 2024 • 8 mins
Richard Skinner from Local 12 joined us to discuss the Cincinnati Bengals, their new kicker, "business decisions," what to do with Joe Burrow when they start playing meaningless games, and more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Richard Skinner is here as he is on Wednesdays from
Local twelve and Local twelve dot com on x at
Local twelve. Skinny kind enough to join us and spend
a few minutes with us every single Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
How's it going, it's going. How are you.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I'm doing very very well. I'm excited to talk to you.
When do the Bengals players start making business decisions?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
You know, I think that gets a little overblown because
I'm trying to think of who could The only one
who could, in Siri make them is probably Jamar Chase, right,
because he still needs to prove he can play, that
he's not gonna miss games because of injuries, and he
may have legit injury when all said and done, if
you know, comes down to it, I mean the rest
(00:43):
of me to put some stuff on tape. The one
decision that's the most interesting to me is when they
tell Joe Burrow you're not playing the last two games.
How does it react to that?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
M Do you think that's what they'll do?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
I do? I mean, I think you have to make
an adult decision here, which is we're paying this guy
some real, big time guaranteed money. Again, I'm not telling
you they need to do any of this stuff to
learn mathematically eliminated. And I don't think they agreed. Yes, agreed, Yeah,
I think any Yeah, I think everybody agrees with that
portion of it. But I think it comes down to it,
he's too valuable to your franchise. Do you really want
(01:17):
him to get hurt in a meaningless game that would
cost him six eight ten games full season in twenty
twenty five. No. And I know he's playing for numbers.
I know he's playing for stats. And I don't mean
that's that's what he's that's you know, his goal. But
he's playing for some of those things, right, But I
think you have to just say, man, you're too valuable
to us. We got always guaranteed money shelled out. You
(01:38):
get hurt, I mean we're paying you not to play. No, no, no, no,
We're you're gonna have to sit these last couple, last
three whatever that number is of games.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
I agree with you, and I think that's what I
would do. I think enough of Joe Burrow that I
would understand that he didn't like that. But I think
there's a difference between I think there's not liking it,
but understanding it. And not liking it and throwing it
temper tantum. I don't think he's gonna not like it
and throw a tempertantum. I think he's not gonna like it,
but understand they're keeping his in the team's best interest
in heart.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Yeah, and I think he is certainly smart enough to
fully understand that this is good for both of them.
And listen, I do appreciate that he's not gonna like it.
That shows you how much he loves playing this game,
and he does. He loves all of it. He loves
the physicality of it, he loves the preparation of it.
I think that would really affect him a bit to say,
hey man, just prepares the backup this week. He'll probably
(02:28):
fully prepare to be ready to play and price and
saying at some point if Jake Brady show to put
me in, I'm ready. I'm good. But no, no, it's
he's two way too valuable and there's two I need
to do this as a business thing, Mo, there's too
much money tied up in A guy like that guarantees
you didn't have to worry about he guarantees fifteen twenty
years ago. But you gotta worry about him now, because
they're real. You're paying the guy no matter what. I'd
(02:49):
rather pay him to play meaningful games than get hurt
and miss meaningful games and just paying for nothing.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Uh do you think, lou Ana Rumo say fate was
sealed on Sunday?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I don't. I don't. I do think this whatever decision
they're going to make on him or other coaches, I
would hope that decision at least has been formulated and
made that. You know, it's not like the last five
games unless they were somehow miraculous to get to the playoffs,
which should save anybody. We saw that with Marvin a
couple of times, right the Tyler Boyd touched the reception
(03:22):
in Baltimore. Man, there's so much bring Marvin back another year.
Don't bring Marvin back in it. But they did, and
I don't. I don't think that's the way you should
should operate. I'm not gonna tell you if they've made
the decision to bring him back, I'm okay with that.
If they make the decision to fire him, I understand that.
But I think whatever decision you end up finally making
(03:42):
when the time comes, that decision, in my opinion, should
should already.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Honestly be made, but you don't think it has been.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I don't, and I as a part of me that
doesn't think he's going to get fired. I think it'll
fall in a position coach or two. I certainly don't
think it's going to be Zach Taylor. I do think
that the next, you know, layer of coach right is
the coordinator. And that's usually what happens in a circumstance
like this with a heat around the head coach. But
the head coach has done enough good things and you say,
all right, he deserves to run it back another year,
(04:13):
but you're gonna have to make some changes on the
rest of your staff, and that usually then falls to
the coordinator coordinators. It's not going to fall to the
offensive coordinator this team, Dan Pitcher, but it could fall
to lou And if it's not that layer, then it's
got to be a position coach layer that you go, hey,
defensive line hasn't been really developed, man, Let the defensive
line coach go. Secondary hasn't been very well developed. Let
the secondary coach go. I think that's probably where we're
(04:36):
at in the pecking order.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I I'm usually pretty loath to, you know, talk about
a player not playing hard, because because I and you
know this more than I know, I know what it
means to these guys and their professionals, and and they they.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Do their best.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
But I've seen people question the effort of some guys
on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Is that fair to do?
Speaker 3 (04:59):
I think it's to do. But that question was asking.
I guess the one guy in particular was Geno Stone
with the tackling, right, I mean, and lou who Anna
Romo and we talked to him on Monday, was asked
that and he said, no, he's one hundred percent giving me.
He's getting me one hundred percent all out. I truly
believe that. Okay, I'm gonna take the coach's word for it.
She means he's not a very good tackler. So I
actually thought I had this in my key brain today
(05:20):
as I was writing a column about you know, all
the defensive woes and there's really no answers for it
right now, and you know they're trying their best to
give answers for none are to come. And I thought, well,
maybe Kemo Ston's misstackles I go back to when he
got hurt in Cleveland, right, remember he got carved off
the field, and you know, maybe he's like in the
back of his mind at the moment of of you know,
I don't need that again this year. And then I
went back and looked, I went, oh, no, he missed
(05:41):
five tackles in the Baltimore game early this year before
he hurt that that shit, and so this wasn't something new.
It came about because of an injury. He's just not
been very good. And it makes you wonder that hey,
last year, playing behind ro qwand Smith and Patrick Queen
as Baltimore linebackers, those guys did the tackling. He just
still in the back end and said, oh, there's an
over I'll take that as an interception, and he got
(06:01):
paid for it. I mean, you know, maybe shame on
the Bengals for not doing further new diligenies on him
as a player of you know, he got masked by two.
I think you'd agree with this too. The better linebackers
in the league, Roquan Fuitt might be the best. And
so when you're playing behind those guys, how many times
you gotta worry about somebody slipping through and you having
to save the day on a tackle. Now you're just
back there playing center field and making interceptions, which he
(06:22):
did really well last year in Baltimore. But he has
not played well at all for this team this year.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Are you excited for the start of the Cave York era?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
It'll begin and end very quickly. So as the Roofy part.
This never came up about any injury issue with Evan, Right,
and he kicked on Sunday and I don't know if
he hurt himself late, but there was an odd thing
that occurred both in LA and then I saw it
actually occur on Sunday. You may have too, well. He
just bolts for the locker room from time to time, right,
And I'm like, yes, I mean, what's his prime? I
(06:56):
don't so this Is this a a Eurology issue? Is
this just a pulld Groyd? I don't know the answer
to that. It just seems odd that he's done that.
All of a sudden, he lands on the the uh
the uh well lands. I guess not I are, but
I'm gonna miss some games and they have to sign
Kate York because of it, you know. I Yeah, I'm
(07:17):
not excited for the Cade York year. He's panding on
how many teams eight, nine, ten he's been on a bunch.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Oh boy, that's exciting. I feel bad. I feel bad for.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
I feel bad for for Evan because the season has
kind of gone sideways for him a little bit this year,
and I was hopeful for him and the team that
he could use, you know, starting this past Sunday with Pittsburgh,
but he could use the rest of the season to
sort of put all that aside and go in the
next season with us talking about the old money mack.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
And now we can't do that.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
No, no, you wonder why keep front of the locker
room all the time?
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Uh? Yeah, all right, Uh but when do you do
a mock draft? When do those start?
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Those those may start sooner rather than later. I remember
one year. I think I started one on September twenty third.
I'm you know, at least at least we're further at
least we're closer to Christmas time for those nowadays can't wait.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
All right, thank you as always, you bet, my man,
because
Richard Skinner is here as he is on Wednesdays from
Local twelve and Local twelve dot com on x at
Local twelve. Skinny kind enough to join us and spend
a few minutes with us every single Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
How's it going, it's going. How are you.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I'm doing very very well. I'm excited to talk to you.
When do the Bengals players start making business decisions?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
You know, I think that gets a little overblown because
I'm trying to think of who could The only one
who could, in Siri make them is probably Jamar Chase, right,
because he still needs to prove he can play, that
he's not gonna miss games because of injuries, and he
may have legit injury when all said and done, if
you know, comes down to it, I mean the rest
(00:43):
of me to put some stuff on tape. The one
decision that's the most interesting to me is when they
tell Joe Burrow you're not playing the last two games.
How does it react to that?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
M Do you think that's what they'll do?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
I do? I mean, I think you have to make
an adult decision here, which is we're paying this guy
some real, big time guaranteed money. Again, I'm not telling
you they need to do any of this stuff to
learn mathematically eliminated. And I don't think they agreed. Yes, agreed, Yeah,
I think any Yeah, I think everybody agrees with that
portion of it. But I think it comes down to it,
he's too valuable to your franchise. Do you really want
(01:17):
him to get hurt in a meaningless game that would
cost him six eight ten games full season in twenty
twenty five. No. And I know he's playing for numbers.
I know he's playing for stats. And I don't mean
that's that's what he's that's you know, his goal. But
he's playing for some of those things, right, But I
think you have to just say, man, you're too valuable
to us. We got always guaranteed money shelled out. You
(01:38):
get hurt, I mean we're paying you not to play. No, no, no, no,
We're you're gonna have to sit these last couple, last
three whatever that number is of games.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
I agree with you, and I think that's what I
would do. I think enough of Joe Burrow that I
would understand that he didn't like that. But I think
there's a difference between I think there's not liking it,
but understanding it. And not liking it and throwing it
temper tantum. I don't think he's gonna not like it
and throw a tempertantum. I think he's not gonna like it,
but understand they're keeping his in the team's best interest
in heart.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Yeah, and I think he is certainly smart enough to
fully understand that this is good for both of them.
And listen, I do appreciate that he's not gonna like it.
That shows you how much he loves playing this game,
and he does. He loves all of it. He loves
the physicality of it, he loves the preparation of it.
I think that would really affect him a bit to say,
hey man, just prepares the backup this week. He'll probably
(02:28):
fully prepare to be ready to play and price and
saying at some point if Jake Brady show to put
me in, I'm ready. I'm good. But no, no, it's
he's two way too valuable and there's two I need
to do this as a business thing, Mo, there's too
much money tied up in A guy like that guarantees
you didn't have to worry about he guarantees fifteen twenty
years ago. But you gotta worry about him now, because
they're real. You're paying the guy no matter what. I'd
(02:49):
rather pay him to play meaningful games than get hurt
and miss meaningful games and just paying for nothing.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Uh do you think, lou Ana Rumo say fate was
sealed on Sunday?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I don't. I don't. I do think this whatever decision
they're going to make on him or other coaches, I
would hope that decision at least has been formulated and
made that. You know, it's not like the last five
games unless they were somehow miraculous to get to the playoffs,
which should save anybody. We saw that with Marvin a
couple of times, right the Tyler Boyd touched the reception
(03:22):
in Baltimore. Man, there's so much bring Marvin back another year.
Don't bring Marvin back in it. But they did, and
I don't. I don't think that's the way you should
should operate. I'm not gonna tell you if they've made
the decision to bring him back, I'm okay with that.
If they make the decision to fire him, I understand that.
But I think whatever decision you end up finally making
(03:42):
when the time comes, that decision, in my opinion, should
should already.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Honestly be made, but you don't think it has been.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I don't, and I as a part of me that
doesn't think he's going to get fired. I think it'll
fall in a position coach or two. I certainly don't
think it's going to be Zach Taylor. I do think
that the next, you know, layer of coach right is
the coordinator. And that's usually what happens in a circumstance
like this with a heat around the head coach. But
the head coach has done enough good things and you say,
all right, he deserves to run it back another year,
(04:13):
but you're gonna have to make some changes on the
rest of your staff, and that usually then falls to
the coordinator coordinators. It's not going to fall to the
offensive coordinator this team, Dan Pitcher, but it could fall
to lou And if it's not that layer, then it's
got to be a position coach layer that you go, hey,
defensive line hasn't been really developed, man, Let the defensive
line coach go. Secondary hasn't been very well developed. Let
the secondary coach go. I think that's probably where we're
(04:36):
at in the pecking order.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I I'm usually pretty loath to, you know, talk about
a player not playing hard, because because I and you
know this more than I know, I know what it
means to these guys and their professionals, and and they they.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Do their best.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
But I've seen people question the effort of some guys
on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Is that fair to do?
Speaker 3 (04:59):
I think it's to do. But that question was asking.
I guess the one guy in particular was Geno Stone
with the tackling, right, I mean, and lou who Anna
Romo and we talked to him on Monday, was asked
that and he said, no, he's one hundred percent giving me.
He's getting me one hundred percent all out. I truly
believe that. Okay, I'm gonna take the coach's word for it.
She means he's not a very good tackler. So I
actually thought I had this in my key brain today
(05:20):
as I was writing a column about you know, all
the defensive woes and there's really no answers for it
right now, and you know they're trying their best to
give answers for none are to come. And I thought, well,
maybe Kemo Ston's misstackles I go back to when he
got hurt in Cleveland, right, remember he got carved off
the field, and you know, maybe he's like in the
back of his mind at the moment of of you know,
I don't need that again this year. And then I
went back and looked, I went, oh, no, he missed
(05:41):
five tackles in the Baltimore game early this year before
he hurt that that shit, and so this wasn't something new.
It came about because of an injury. He's just not
been very good. And it makes you wonder that hey,
last year, playing behind ro qwand Smith and Patrick Queen
as Baltimore linebackers, those guys did the tackling. He just
still in the back end and said, oh, there's an
over I'll take that as an interception, and he got
(06:01):
paid for it. I mean, you know, maybe shame on
the Bengals for not doing further new diligenies on him
as a player of you know, he got masked by two.
I think you'd agree with this too. The better linebackers
in the league, Roquan Fuitt might be the best. And
so when you're playing behind those guys, how many times
you gotta worry about somebody slipping through and you having
to save the day on a tackle. Now you're just
back there playing center field and making interceptions, which he
(06:22):
did really well last year in Baltimore. But he has
not played well at all for this team this year.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Are you excited for the start of the Cave York era?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
It'll begin and end very quickly. So as the Roofy part.
This never came up about any injury issue with Evan, Right,
and he kicked on Sunday and I don't know if
he hurt himself late, but there was an odd thing
that occurred both in LA and then I saw it
actually occur on Sunday. You may have too, well. He
just bolts for the locker room from time to time, right,
And I'm like, yes, I mean, what's his prime? I
(06:56):
don't so this Is this a a Eurology issue? Is
this just a pulld Groyd? I don't know the answer
to that. It just seems odd that he's done that.
All of a sudden, he lands on the the uh
the uh well lands. I guess not I are, but
I'm gonna miss some games and they have to sign
Kate York because of it, you know. I Yeah, I'm
(07:17):
not excited for the Cade York year. He's panding on
how many teams eight, nine, ten he's been on a bunch.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Oh boy, that's exciting. I feel bad. I feel bad for.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
I feel bad for for Evan because the season has
kind of gone sideways for him a little bit this year,
and I was hopeful for him and the team that
he could use, you know, starting this past Sunday with Pittsburgh,
but he could use the rest of the season to
sort of put all that aside and go in the
next season with us talking about the old money mack.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
And now we can't do that.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
No, no, you wonder why keep front of the locker
room all the time?
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Uh? Yeah, all right, Uh but when do you do
a mock draft? When do those start?
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Those those may start sooner rather than later. I remember
one year. I think I started one on September twenty third.
I'm you know, at least at least we're further at
least we're closer to Christmas time for those nowadays can't wait.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
All right, thank you as always, you bet, my man,
because
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