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December 19, 2024 12 mins
Robert Weintraub writes a weekly Bengals column for Cincinnati Magazine.  We talked about the team he writes about on ESPN1530. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
At the Holy Grail starting at nine am. Myself, Tony Pike,
ken Brew will be there, although Ken might be hungover
still if ou wins their bowl game tomorrow, so we'll listen.
Ken is questionable, but Tony and I will be there
starting at nine am on Sunday morning, taking you up
to countdown to kickoff.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
It's going to be a blast. We hope to see
you there.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Of course, you can hear the game live on ESPN
fifteen thirty aunt till one o'clock Bengals and Browns. And
by the way, that game tonight, Chargers Broncos is on
Fox Sports thirteen sixty, So there you go. Robert Windrob
joins us on Thursdays covering writing a Bengals column for
Cincinnati Magazine which you could read every week. You could

(00:40):
read this week's column at Cincinnati Magazine dot com. Am,
I correct, You're actually gonna cover the game. Will be
there in person on Sunday.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
I had to pick the coldest game of the season, the.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
Co Tendon versus Listen, bo I brave the elements. No
indoor practice facility needed for me. I like you there
and yeah, looking forward to it. I haven't been to
pay Corps.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Stadium under its new name since they changed it.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
So I'm looking forward to see if there's really any
difference between that and Paul Brown Stadium fro.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Well, the modern version of the stadium. I don't know
when the last time you were there. We'll say this
as somebody who for years was a critic of the
Bengals game day atmosphere.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
It's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
They've done a nice job with the place. I'll give
them credit for that.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
Yeah, it's been about five years, I think six right
before the pandemic, so in twenty nineteen last time. So
you know, it's been a while, and I've never actually
seen Joe Burrow play a home game in person. Seen
him on the road and never at home. So I'm
very looking forward to that.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Very good. How much time have you spent lip reading
this week?

Speaker 3 (01:44):
No more than usual.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
I come a couple of hours at least a week.
You know, have a hobby of mine I like to
pursue in my downtime.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
I'll say this to start.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
It's a good thing there were no cameras on me watching.
They wouldn't have had any problems lip reading.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
I was st up a storm. A lot of ex with.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
Him here, and I don't blame Joe for being super frustrated,
you know, listen. Over overall, I think it's a pretty
you know, tempest in the teapot. This is the NFL sideline.
These guys are emotional. It's a passionate game. That's a
violent game. They go off on each other a lot.
We don't see one one hundredth of the encounters, you.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Know, and we see a lot of them.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
We've seen Aaron Rodgers push his coach this year, right,
we saw Travis Kelcey put a forearm camera on on
Andy Reid and the super Bowl, for God's sakes, the
Eagles sideline is like an octagon every weekend. So you know,
I don't put a ton of stock in it. What
I will say is there's still a lasting sort of
national and not in Cincinnati, I don't think really, but

(02:47):
a national perspective of boy Zach Taylor. Why in the
world did this guy get a job?

Speaker 3 (02:53):
And you know who is he to be hired?

Speaker 4 (02:56):
And this was a Dave Shula two point zero And
it goes back to the Gary reasons. Pulling on on Dave.
She was hat the famousous disrespect that he showed him,
and people have been waiting for something like that. I
think for Burrow to go off on Zach Taylor for
better or for worse. And you know, I think that's
why it's gotten a lot of more play than maybe

(03:18):
it should. Nashley anyway, Obviously in Cincinnati, we're all interested
in it because of the personal it's involved. But I
think beyond it being any kind of typical coach player
frustration thing, it's just as those undertones that might might
have been carrying it a little bit extra. But I
think it'll all be forgotten by this time next week.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah, I hope, So, I hope so, Like you know,
Zach Taylor, and I agree with what you said. I
think around the country there is this sense of what's
this dufe doing coach in the Bengals, He's not a
real NFL head coach. When it comes to criticisms of Zach,
I certainly have had them, and I've shared them publicly.
I also think I also believe he has some things

(03:58):
that he has done well. He doesn't nearly get the
credit for that I believe he deserves. I get frustrated
with him. I don't hold him as responsible for what's
happened with the team this year as much as most.
But I do understand that when you're losing, criticisms of
the coach comes with the territory. And there again have
been things this year that I haven't liked generally speaking.

(04:22):
How do you feel about Zach Taylor?

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Well, that's you hit on it.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
I mean, listen, he went to a Super Bowl and
then you know, pulled it back and went to the
AFC Championship Game and almost got right back to the
super Bowl, but for you know, one bad penalty. I mean,
you know, you can have criticisms of his in game conservatism,
you can have criticisms of this style of offense or
that style of coaching whatever. I mean, he's had a

(04:47):
lot of good results. We can't you know, have to
start there. And you know, any comparisons to to Dave
Shule obviously are ludicrous. Now he's had the benefit of
having Joe Burrow, and I think the real issue I
think fans have with him is still a sense of underachievement.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
With Joe Burrow.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
They want to see more, if that's at all possible,
And this year really comes to a head. You can't
say in twenty twenty or twenty twenty three, the seasons
that Burrow was injured that you know, it doesn't fall on.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
Zach for that.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
Obviously that was everybody was frustrated by that. But this
season it's been not just a healthy Burrow, but a
fantastic Burrow, and yet they have a losing record, and
I think that is or of course there's a lot
of frustration around that, and there's a lot of figures
pointing at Zach Taylor, and deservedly so I don't, as
you say, put necessarily as much blame as I ordinarily

(05:38):
might in this situation onto Taylor. I think he's done
a pretty good job under trying circumstances in a lot
of ways this year. But you know, it remains the
fact that coaches and quarterback combinations got to win that
Super Bowl in the first five years together, or it
just doesn't happen. Historically, they came oh so close.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
But it didn't happen.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
And now I think there's a feeling of, you know, are.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
They really going to be able to get back.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
To where they were and those magical second and third
years together, or is it just going to be a
downward trend of backsliding Before the Bengals do the inevitable
and find somebody else to coach Burrow. And you know,
I hate to go that stark in it, but you
know it's not it's not hard to see that happening
because it's happened so often in Cincinnati before, where we

(06:25):
assume that good times are going to continue and instead
the bad times come faster until a landslide hits. Yeah,
nobody wants to see that.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
No, no question about that.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Robert Wintroup is with a Cincinnati magazine dot com. Should
last week have been, assuming he has done for the season,
should last week have been Sam Hubbard's final game in
the Bengals uniform?

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Boy?

Speaker 3 (06:45):
Anyway in the Bengals uniform is the key answer there.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
You know, listen, I think there's a possibility that he
could come back in a role of a guy like
Cam Sample, who.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
You know, the Bengals have actually kind of missed this year.
I feel like, you know, a fifteen.

Speaker 4 (06:59):
To twenty snap guy, edge setter, tough run defender, good veteran,
solid presence in the locker room.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
You could definitely see Hubbard playing a role like that.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
Presuming he's healthy enough to you know, the injuries have
really taking their toll over the last couple of years.
He may just want to hang it up and say
that's enough.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
But I mean, this is the Cincinnati kid. You know.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
It's hard to see a guy like Hubbard, you know,
taking a contract and playing a couple of years at
the end with the vikings or whatever, you know.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
I mean, it's like it feels.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
Like both sides at the end of the day are
probably gonna want to make something like that happen. Not
for nine million dollars that he's out next year, but
you know, for a price that's amenable to a guy
playing fifteen to twenty snaps as a as a real
run defender next year. I could probably see that, you know, coming,
depending on you know, what other moves they make at
the end position and who gets healthy and comes back

(07:50):
next year.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
It's not impossible.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
And if he does go out, obviously you'd like to
go out as any defensive player would with a touchdown reception.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yes, that's the crazy thing about the entire scenario is
what it might end up being.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
I was I don't know that he's getting the proper
the props for his uh you know hands on that
play that was not an easy catch at all, and
he made it look pretty well, pretty simple. So give
give Sam credit if it is his last you know,
sort of memory as a Bengal.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
What a what a great one to have.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yeah, no question about that.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
What about the two guards Joe Burrow gifted his his
offensive lineman like Japanese swords. I think I would rather
impale myself with one of them than watch Cordell Volson
and uh and uh Alex Kapa next year.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Yeah. I think that was.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
Joe's subtle way of saying, boys is kind of fall
on your sword and commit ritual. Hari kari uh and
uh get out of this locker room.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
They've been they've been brutal. Listen.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
I mean we've talked about it at length all season.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
Every every week.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
It feels like, you know, they're holding the team back
in so many ways.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
You know.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
Alex cap obviously now was akercussion. So you hate to
talk badly about his play last week, but it was.
It almost seems like he's had a concussion all season.
I mean, he's just the fall off has been unbelievable.
He's just one of a number of guys who you know,
I mean, he's been on a downward trend, and.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
We've talked about it before.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
He probably should not have come back as their starting
guard this year, but you know, he hasn't been the
same player since the end of twenty two when he
was injured. You know, Volson is more difficult.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
He's a young player. You know, he had a ceiling
and he's probably reached it.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
But you still think he would have at least maintained
the level of play that he had last year, which
was actually pretty decent. But he's really fallen off a
cliff as well.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
And it's you know, we talked about this last week.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
It's just going to be dependent because they have so
many needs in so many places.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
How they allocate their resources.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
Are they going to be able to replace them both
with free agents or is it going to be one
free agent? And then what do you do with the
draft pick, who probably will have a lot of the
same issues as Volsen does. Are they going to give
Volsen chance to you know, improve in the offseason and
come back.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
And try and win that job.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
You know, he's on a rookie contract still, I think
he'll get every chance to do that, and he may
not keep it, but he'll be on the team next year.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
I think there's no doubt about that.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
One more for you, Are you ready? Can the Chargers?
Can the Chargers take care of business and beat the
Broncos tonight?

Speaker 3 (10:22):
You know what they will?

Speaker 4 (10:23):
And here's the reason why, Because they have just activated
tight End. Yes, if you had not known that he
was on the Los Angeles Chargers, you would join the club,
because most people don't.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
I'd forgotten it.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
Myself, but I saw today that he was activated.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
That will be the key difference. Sure they can win.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
I you know, they're at home, their favorites, they got
the better quarterback, as good, if not better a coach.
They beat the Broncos already this year, and all of
Cincinnati is locked yes in prayer and hopes that they
will do so. So probably it won't happen in that case,
but you know, I think definitely they can, and it
will just give us a little bit more chance in

(11:04):
this law season.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
We need something that, you.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
Know, lock onto and have a little bit of hope
to the last remaining games. And I want the game
that I attend next week to have a little bit
of meaning.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
You know, it's they got to beat the Browns before
they beat the.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
Broncos next week Cincinnati, so hopefully there'll be a reason
to play hard and go all the way through to
the end of the season with at least a little
bit of a chance to make the playoffs in the
miracle run.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
So are you will you be there for the Browns game,
of the Broncos game.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Just the Browns game.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
Yeah, I can't make the Broncos game, but you know
I happen to be in Ohio next week. Yeah, this weekend,
I should say, and can't come to Ohio and not
visit with my with my good pals in stripes.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Very good, have a good time, man. Thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
Great to be appreciated. Well, thanks so much. I'm happy holiday.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Likewise, right back at you. That's our guy.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Robert wind Trump Bridesay Bengals column for Cincinnati Magazine. Read
it now at Cincinnati Magazine dot com. It's twenty six
away from six o'clock. It's the bud Light Happy Hour.
Bud Light five o'clock Happy Hour on ESPN fifteen thirty
Cincinnati Sports Station.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
You've been listening to football inninnetti on the official home
of the Bengals, Cincinnatis. ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen
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