January 16, 2025 • 14 mins
Chad Brendel of Bearcat Journal joined us to discuss UC's win in Colorado, and former Bearcats Defensive Coordinator Marcus Freeman and his Fighting Irish.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Away from four. I'm a leger. This is ESPN fifteen thirty.
Chad Brendel joins us on Thursdays, and it's it's more
fun to talk with Chad after the Bearcats win, which
they did last night, and so now everybody's in a
good mood, including me Bearcat Journal dot Com. I like
it when they make free throws, Chad.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Free throws and late threes and the offense got I
used a different terminology for it last night. But they
got back on track, at least at the very end
of the game.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
At the very end of the game, yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
But but for thirty six minutes not so much. But
the last four better.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Yeah. I don't know when I was more convinced they
were gonna lose. When they were up twelve after CJ
makes a free to a three free throws, or when
Colorado finally took the lead. I'm not sure when I
was more convinced they were gonna lose, either when they
were up twelve or down one.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
For sure, down one, I was like, you gotta be
kidding me. Up twelve, like yeah, there was still that
fear that like, look they're up twelve, there's a drought coming.
And you know, next thing, you know, all of us
was were dying of dehydration. The thirst was very real
for a basket though, yep, but down one it was like, yeah,
(01:22):
like they have completely let any and all momentum slip away.
The offense again looks clunky. They can't get out of
their own way. They're they're they're not getting great shots,
they're missing the open shots they do get. They're not
the thing that kind of you know, maybe it's when
they have put C. J. Frederick and Josh Reid on
(01:44):
the floor. It has stood out even more because the
ball doesn't stick with those guys and you actually see
like sparks of like, oh hey, there's guys cutting and
and and moving the ball quickly. Like I think that's
the thing. Outside of I would personally, I would eliminate
(02:04):
the hide ball screen to initiate the offense. I'd just
take out because it's not working. So I would do
something else to initiate the offense because that thing is
not working. But then a lot of times, you know,
there's not a lot of movement that you know, they're
they're not the ball. What are the cool kids say, Oh,
(02:25):
the ball is not popping right, and that was the
case again for large portions last night.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
What was the most encouraging thing about the performance, aside
from the fact they scored more points than the other.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Team, Sima sitting a couple of late threes on good offense.
That like stuff that we saw last year towards the
end of the year, where they ran good stuff, they
set good screens, they executed well. The ball found him
at the right time and he was able to knock
down the shot. That was such a you know, catalyst
(03:03):
when they played pretty good offense at the end of
the year last year, and if they can get that
back just a little bit. The other thing I would
say would also be Siemos related driving to the rim,
and you know he had to play early in the
game that I tweeted about. He drove right down the
middle of the lane. The defense stayed with the lob.
(03:26):
All he had to do was lay it up and
he threw the lock in his turnover. Why but he
didn't do that in the second half. He was actually
aggressive attacking downhill. You know, he was really the only
one that wasn't impacted by the Kembe Matumbo on the
back line of Colorado's defense who there.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
At one point they tried to throw a lob over
and that didn't work either.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
What are you doing?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
I don't I don't know. There are times there are
times offensively feels like they're playing shorthanded when of these
bandego is on the floor. How do they rectify that?
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I mean, the main part is mo like those two
players that we're talking about, A these has impacted the defense.
Right there's a driver coming down the lane and instead
of stepping up to challenge the driver, the guy guarding
his ease has stayed home on his ease. They're not
(04:29):
taking the easy baskets. That is the end, Like that's
the biggest impact right now. When teams are so hell
bent on taking away the lob score right there, and
then you know what happens that guy has to step
up and now these is open and you can throw
the lob again. Like the defenses are are treating a
(04:51):
these as a major weapon in Cincinnati's offense, and the
people with the ball are ignoring it and still trying
to force to his ease instead of taking what the
defense is giving them. And that's something that's not just
specific to his ease, Like they run this baseline cut
(05:11):
with the big guy right that the big guy flashes
open and generally he's wide open on the low block.
I think I've seen four in the last two games
where they didn't throw it to him. Well, the entire
play design is for that guy to come open in
that spot, Like that's the whole philosophy of that play,
(05:33):
the whole design of that play. The guy comes open
and then he just stands there for two seconds and
nobody throws them the ball. You've wasted the whole play,
like they're not taking what the defense is giving them.
And for me watching if that's the most frustrating part,
and I would guess that's probably why West was frustrated
last night and didn't sound like he was having a
(05:54):
lot of fun after a win. Is because the design
of stuff still looks pretty good. The execution just looks
dreadful at times.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Is this team still good defensively?
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yes, but you're here's the you know, here's the dirty
little secret about being a great defense. Bow You're playing
in one of America's best conferences and are good players,
and they're going to get baskets at times, Like you know,
you're not holding every team to forty mo now rare
it is for a team to score forty in a
(06:30):
college basketball game. It's pretty rare. Well, let's see something
like that, right.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
So here's here's why I asked, because they the stretch
of Big Twelve games, right, I hated what I saw
from them defensively against Baylor. That's what was most frustrating.
It wasn't the forty eight points. The other games, including
last night, I've had like I could really nitpick and
pick a possession here. And you can talk about some
of the things that happened late against Arizona, But for
the most part, I've been pretty pleased with how they
(06:56):
were defending, which was the theme of the games they
won that mattered in December. And I feel like I
feel like what we are seeing is I think we
know what they are offensively. Hopefully they make improvements, maybe
see Moskeet's going, and that's great. They're gonna have to
win winnable games with their defense. I think that's I
(07:18):
think that's mostly doable against the heart of the schedule,
especially the teams they have coming up in the next
two home games.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yes, but still the other team is going to have
good offensive play, sure, so you can play great defense,
and gods sometimes are just gonna make shots. And that's
the You know, if you're somebody that has been like
my guy Justin Bird, who has been frustrated for thirty
five years because their identity has always been defense, the
(07:51):
main reason is that, like when you're playing really good teams,
it doesn't matter how great the defense is, They're still
at times gonna be able to make shots and your
offense has to keep up. So yeah, I think the defense,
especially there were some times in the second half last
night that I thought it got a little lackadaisical. And
(08:12):
if Dan Skillings runs into the heart of another screener,
I'm gonna lose my mind. He's reverted back to last year,
like he had gotten pretty good at managing getting over
those screens.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
On outside, somebody knocking on the door.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
There might be a delivery guy outside or something that's
usual when they go back. They love the Amazon guy.
I'm going to close the door and try to get
him shut up. But you know, Dan is making offense
easy for who he's guarding by being a little bit
lackadaisical and being able to get screened pretty I mean
(08:54):
the Kansas game was dreadful. Mo I mean Hunter Dickinson
drilled him like fifteen times and Dan never corrected it.
You got to avoid the screen, go over it, go
under it. This isn't a video game. You're not allowed
to go through it because of physics. That's not how
it works. Don't run into the guys the middle of
the guy's chat.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Before the season began, you talked with me about the
need to be better at home in the Big Twelve.
Last year, four and five lost a lot of close games,
lost to some teams they should have beaten. So far
this season h to two. So I view these next
two as massive for that reason, because you can't say, well,
they've got to be better at home and then watch
(09:36):
them go one and three or zero to four in
the league at home and kind of shrug it off.
They have to win these next two, can they?
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Well, one, Arizona State is talented, but they're young and
they have been bad on the road. So you cannot
let a young team that has struggled to win games
on the road come into your gym and win. You
just can't like that is a you know, look, two
(10:05):
and four still not great. One in five, like the
swim upstream is damn near impossible. So, yes, you have
to beat Arizona State Texas Tech. That's one of those
you know, if things get back on track, you're going
(10:26):
to be in the middle of the Big twelve with
Texas Tech. So if you want to prove you're legit,
you got to win that game two. Then you're at
three and four. Yes, that's a tough road trip out
out to Utah for Utah and BYU, but those are
also winnable games, and you can get this thing back
on the rails one in one. I mean, I guess
(10:50):
you can can survive going one and one over these
next two. But what did we talk about all year
last year, MO, You're just creating another road game you
have to win. To get to five hundred in the league,
I think you've got to be ten and ten, especially
now that Dayton has decided that they don't play basketball
at that school anymore. I mean, yikes, to get to
(11:13):
ten and ten, that means you've got to win now
three road games. Do you feel great about that right now?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
No?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
No, me neither. So I would advise if I was
an advisor, a consultant, MO, I would advise this team
to get a win Saturday and then again on Tuesday,
and at three and four, sign up.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
No, yeah, yes, look guess what.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Arizona is really good and they are finding their stride.
Baylor is really good, Kansas is really good. So those three.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Losses while coming back to back to back, we all
knew that was possible. But now you've got to pick
yourself up on the off the mat and get some
momentum from last night and get that winning you know,
feeling back in.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Your system and go out there and rip off a
stretch wins because that's the only way you can make
up for it after losing four in a row.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
I've got like a minute here, I want to switch gears.
Give me your perspective on what it's like to watch
Marcus Freeman coach for a national championship.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
It's very satisfying for me because I, you know, I
like you. I got to know Marcus really well, and
I you couldn't make me say a bad thing about that,
Like he was such an easy human to work with
and to like and pull for. And you know, plus
I don't and this may be crazy, I don't know
(12:45):
if you would agree with me or not. Mike Denbrock
is in the like top three of people I've ever
dealt with in my almost twenty years being a U
see mm hm, Like I love that thing.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yeah, I would see him. I would say the same.
I could not agree more.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Like Mike Denbrock was just personable and friendly and funny
and like never never big time to you. He's still
like I texted him after the semi finals and he
texted me back on the bus on the way to
the airport, like he's just a good dude. Mike Picken,
same thing, you know, Chad Bowden, Like, I love those guys.
(13:22):
Marcus especially though, is just somebody that's easy to root for.
He was easy to deal with. You could tell he
was a good human being. So seeing this for him
is awesome. I love it. Yeah, God, I hope they'd
be no higher statement it.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
I You know, I said this to somebody on social
media when they played Indiana. The Hoosiers were a fun story,
but I said, I'm rooting for Marcus Freeman and that
has nothing to do with Ohio State. I'm rooting for
Marcus Freeman because every reason you just said. By the
way you mentioned Mike Denbrock in all the years I've
been doing the pregame show. He is the only coach
who has emailed me after the fact thanking me for
(13:58):
having him on.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
So I mean, great, got All of them are top.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Notch, So I'm I. You know. Justin Williams has a
piece at The Athletic Today about the Cincinnati connections to
the to the Notre Dame staff, but Marcus Freeman, I am.
I am thrilled for him. And the thing is, like,
you know what, everybody I've asked that question to the
one that I just asked you, I said the same thing,
Like I can't find anybody who's like, ah, not sure,
Like everybody is genuinely thrilled for him and rooting like
(14:27):
hell for him, including folks he has encountered in Columbus,
which says something Mark mo.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I hated Notre Dame my entire life. There's never been
anything I've ever liked about Notre Dame. And now they're
like my second favorite team because of all those guys,
So I wish them nothing but the best on Monday.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
All right, man, awesome stuff is always Thanks so.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Much, appreciate it. Thanks all.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Chat Brendel barkat journal dot com. We are way late.
This is ZESPN fifteen thirty
Away from four. I'm a leger. This is ESPN fifteen thirty.
Chad Brendel joins us on Thursdays, and it's it's more
fun to talk with Chad after the Bearcats win, which
they did last night, and so now everybody's in a
good mood, including me Bearcat Journal dot Com. I like
it when they make free throws, Chad.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Free throws and late threes and the offense got I
used a different terminology for it last night. But they
got back on track, at least at the very end
of the game.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
At the very end of the game, yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
But but for thirty six minutes not so much. But
the last four better.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Yeah. I don't know when I was more convinced they
were gonna lose. When they were up twelve after CJ
makes a free to a three free throws, or when
Colorado finally took the lead. I'm not sure when I
was more convinced they were gonna lose, either when they
were up twelve or down one.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
For sure, down one, I was like, you gotta be
kidding me. Up twelve, like yeah, there was still that
fear that like, look they're up twelve, there's a drought coming.
And you know, next thing, you know, all of us
was were dying of dehydration. The thirst was very real
for a basket though, yep, but down one it was like, yeah,
(01:22):
like they have completely let any and all momentum slip away.
The offense again looks clunky. They can't get out of
their own way. They're they're they're not getting great shots,
they're missing the open shots they do get. They're not
the thing that kind of you know, maybe it's when
they have put C. J. Frederick and Josh Reid on
(01:44):
the floor. It has stood out even more because the
ball doesn't stick with those guys and you actually see
like sparks of like, oh hey, there's guys cutting and
and and moving the ball quickly. Like I think that's
the thing. Outside of I would personally, I would eliminate
(02:04):
the hide ball screen to initiate the offense. I'd just
take out because it's not working. So I would do
something else to initiate the offense because that thing is
not working. But then a lot of times, you know,
there's not a lot of movement that you know, they're
they're not the ball. What are the cool kids say, Oh,
(02:25):
the ball is not popping right, and that was the
case again for large portions last night.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
What was the most encouraging thing about the performance, aside
from the fact they scored more points than the other.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Team, Sima sitting a couple of late threes on good offense.
That like stuff that we saw last year towards the
end of the year, where they ran good stuff, they
set good screens, they executed well. The ball found him
at the right time and he was able to knock
down the shot. That was such a you know, catalyst
(03:03):
when they played pretty good offense at the end of
the year last year, and if they can get that
back just a little bit. The other thing I would
say would also be Siemos related driving to the rim,
and you know he had to play early in the
game that I tweeted about. He drove right down the
middle of the lane. The defense stayed with the lob.
(03:26):
All he had to do was lay it up and
he threw the lock in his turnover. Why but he
didn't do that in the second half. He was actually
aggressive attacking downhill. You know, he was really the only
one that wasn't impacted by the Kembe Matumbo on the
back line of Colorado's defense who there.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
At one point they tried to throw a lob over
and that didn't work either.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
What are you doing?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
I don't I don't know. There are times there are
times offensively feels like they're playing shorthanded when of these
bandego is on the floor. How do they rectify that?
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I mean, the main part is mo like those two
players that we're talking about, A these has impacted the defense.
Right there's a driver coming down the lane and instead
of stepping up to challenge the driver, the guy guarding
his ease has stayed home on his ease. They're not
(04:29):
taking the easy baskets. That is the end, Like that's
the biggest impact right now. When teams are so hell
bent on taking away the lob score right there, and
then you know what happens that guy has to step
up and now these is open and you can throw
the lob again. Like the defenses are are treating a
(04:51):
these as a major weapon in Cincinnati's offense, and the
people with the ball are ignoring it and still trying
to force to his ease instead of taking what the
defense is giving them. And that's something that's not just
specific to his ease, Like they run this baseline cut
(05:11):
with the big guy right that the big guy flashes
open and generally he's wide open on the low block.
I think I've seen four in the last two games
where they didn't throw it to him. Well, the entire
play design is for that guy to come open in
that spot, Like that's the whole philosophy of that play,
(05:33):
the whole design of that play. The guy comes open
and then he just stands there for two seconds and
nobody throws them the ball. You've wasted the whole play,
like they're not taking what the defense is giving them.
And for me watching if that's the most frustrating part,
and I would guess that's probably why West was frustrated
last night and didn't sound like he was having a
(05:54):
lot of fun after a win. Is because the design
of stuff still looks pretty good. The execution just looks
dreadful at times.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Is this team still good defensively?
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yes, but you're here's the you know, here's the dirty
little secret about being a great defense. Bow You're playing
in one of America's best conferences and are good players,
and they're going to get baskets at times, Like you know,
you're not holding every team to forty mo now rare
it is for a team to score forty in a
(06:30):
college basketball game. It's pretty rare. Well, let's see something
like that, right.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
So here's here's why I asked, because they the stretch
of Big Twelve games, right, I hated what I saw
from them defensively against Baylor. That's what was most frustrating.
It wasn't the forty eight points. The other games, including
last night, I've had like I could really nitpick and
pick a possession here. And you can talk about some
of the things that happened late against Arizona, But for
the most part, I've been pretty pleased with how they
(06:56):
were defending, which was the theme of the games they
won that mattered in December. And I feel like I
feel like what we are seeing is I think we
know what they are offensively. Hopefully they make improvements, maybe
see Moskeet's going, and that's great. They're gonna have to
win winnable games with their defense. I think that's I
(07:18):
think that's mostly doable against the heart of the schedule,
especially the teams they have coming up in the next
two home games.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yes, but still the other team is going to have
good offensive play, sure, so you can play great defense,
and gods sometimes are just gonna make shots. And that's
the You know, if you're somebody that has been like
my guy Justin Bird, who has been frustrated for thirty
five years because their identity has always been defense, the
(07:51):
main reason is that, like when you're playing really good teams,
it doesn't matter how great the defense is, They're still
at times gonna be able to make shots and your
offense has to keep up. So yeah, I think the defense,
especially there were some times in the second half last
night that I thought it got a little lackadaisical. And
(08:12):
if Dan Skillings runs into the heart of another screener,
I'm gonna lose my mind. He's reverted back to last year,
like he had gotten pretty good at managing getting over
those screens.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
On outside, somebody knocking on the door.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
There might be a delivery guy outside or something that's
usual when they go back. They love the Amazon guy.
I'm going to close the door and try to get
him shut up. But you know, Dan is making offense
easy for who he's guarding by being a little bit
lackadaisical and being able to get screened pretty I mean
(08:54):
the Kansas game was dreadful. Mo I mean Hunter Dickinson
drilled him like fifteen times and Dan never corrected it.
You got to avoid the screen, go over it, go
under it. This isn't a video game. You're not allowed
to go through it because of physics. That's not how
it works. Don't run into the guys the middle of
the guy's chat.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Before the season began, you talked with me about the
need to be better at home in the Big Twelve.
Last year, four and five lost a lot of close games,
lost to some teams they should have beaten. So far
this season h to two. So I view these next
two as massive for that reason, because you can't say, well,
they've got to be better at home and then watch
(09:36):
them go one and three or zero to four in
the league at home and kind of shrug it off.
They have to win these next two, can they?
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Well, one, Arizona State is talented, but they're young and
they have been bad on the road. So you cannot
let a young team that has struggled to win games
on the road come into your gym and win. You
just can't like that is a you know, look, two
(10:05):
and four still not great. One in five, like the
swim upstream is damn near impossible. So, yes, you have
to beat Arizona State Texas Tech. That's one of those
you know, if things get back on track, you're going
(10:26):
to be in the middle of the Big twelve with
Texas Tech. So if you want to prove you're legit,
you got to win that game two. Then you're at
three and four. Yes, that's a tough road trip out
out to Utah for Utah and BYU, but those are
also winnable games, and you can get this thing back
on the rails one in one. I mean, I guess
(10:50):
you can can survive going one and one over these
next two. But what did we talk about all year
last year, MO, You're just creating another road game you
have to win. To get to five hundred in the league,
I think you've got to be ten and ten, especially
now that Dayton has decided that they don't play basketball
at that school anymore. I mean, yikes, to get to
(11:13):
ten and ten, that means you've got to win now
three road games. Do you feel great about that right now?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
No?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
No, me neither. So I would advise if I was
an advisor, a consultant, MO, I would advise this team
to get a win Saturday and then again on Tuesday,
and at three and four, sign up.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
No, yeah, yes, look guess what.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Arizona is really good and they are finding their stride.
Baylor is really good, Kansas is really good. So those three.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Losses while coming back to back to back, we all
knew that was possible. But now you've got to pick
yourself up on the off the mat and get some
momentum from last night and get that winning you know,
feeling back in.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Your system and go out there and rip off a
stretch wins because that's the only way you can make
up for it after losing four in a row.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
I've got like a minute here, I want to switch gears.
Give me your perspective on what it's like to watch
Marcus Freeman coach for a national championship.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
It's very satisfying for me because I, you know, I
like you. I got to know Marcus really well, and
I you couldn't make me say a bad thing about that,
Like he was such an easy human to work with
and to like and pull for. And you know, plus
I don't and this may be crazy, I don't know
(12:45):
if you would agree with me or not. Mike Denbrock
is in the like top three of people I've ever
dealt with in my almost twenty years being a U
see mm hm, Like I love that thing.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yeah, I would see him. I would say the same.
I could not agree more.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Like Mike Denbrock was just personable and friendly and funny
and like never never big time to you. He's still
like I texted him after the semi finals and he
texted me back on the bus on the way to
the airport, like he's just a good dude. Mike Picken,
same thing, you know, Chad Bowden, Like, I love those guys.
(13:22):
Marcus especially though, is just somebody that's easy to root for.
He was easy to deal with. You could tell he
was a good human being. So seeing this for him
is awesome. I love it. Yeah, God, I hope they'd
be no higher statement it.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
I You know, I said this to somebody on social
media when they played Indiana. The Hoosiers were a fun story,
but I said, I'm rooting for Marcus Freeman and that
has nothing to do with Ohio State. I'm rooting for
Marcus Freeman because every reason you just said. By the
way you mentioned Mike Denbrock in all the years I've
been doing the pregame show. He is the only coach
who has emailed me after the fact thanking me for
(13:58):
having him on.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
So I mean, great, got All of them are top.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Notch, So I'm I. You know. Justin Williams has a
piece at The Athletic Today about the Cincinnati connections to
the to the Notre Dame staff, but Marcus Freeman, I am.
I am thrilled for him. And the thing is, like,
you know what, everybody I've asked that question to the
one that I just asked you, I said the same thing,
Like I can't find anybody who's like, ah, not sure,
Like everybody is genuinely thrilled for him and rooting like
(14:27):
hell for him, including folks he has encountered in Columbus,
which says something Mark mo.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I hated Notre Dame my entire life. There's never been
anything I've ever liked about Notre Dame. And now they're
like my second favorite team because of all those guys,
So I wish them nothing but the best on Monday.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
All right, man, awesome stuff is always Thanks so.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Much, appreciate it. Thanks all.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Chat Brendel barkat journal dot com. We are way late.
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