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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Away from four o'clock. This is ESPN fifteen thirty on
my legger. Chad Rendel joins us on Thursday's Bearcadjournal dot com,
covering all things use in sports on x at Chad Rendel,
how's it going.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
I'm good, hanging out of practice, you know, watch a
little basketball, having a delightful Thursday.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Now are they actually practicing basketball or the dodgeballs out today?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
No, the basketballs are out today.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Okay, very good. If I would have told you last
Monday morning, when we were all still trying to process
what had happened the day before in the West Virginia game,
that this team would go three to zero and offensively
undergo a significant makeover, be almost a one hundred and
eighty degree turn from what they were against West Virginia,
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have three wins, and go to Iowa, stay with a
head of steam, you would have said, what.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I don't believe you. I mean, you know, this is
what the offense was supposed to look like. So on
that front, I'm not shocked, but I you know, I
do wonder, like, why the heck did it take so
long to like get here, and why were there so many,
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you know, obstacles in the road on the way. So
on that front, like, it's not shocking that they finally
figured it out, but it just seemed like it was
so far from reality after what we watched through the
first ten games of conference play that I mean, you know,
if you'd have told me they'd have scored eighty three
or more points in the next three games, I would
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have laughed at you and asked you if what dispensary
you went to and if like you could give me
a tip.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Earlier in the season, Josh Reid was not playing at all,
and if he was, it was a minute or two.
And now he's not only playing significant minutes, he's playing
crunch time and he's making significant plays. Wes Miller has
said after both each of the last two games, Yeah,
these are really good games, the best of his career,
but they're not going to be the best of his career.
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Is this a fun little two game outlier, or is
like Josh Reed a factor now?
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I mean, I don't know if this is, you know,
offensively what we can expect game over game going forward.
But he's doing It's it's more than just the points
that you know, have to have earned. Upped his minutes.
It's the ball doesn't stick like He's pretty decisive when
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he gets it, he knows I'm open shoot it or
keep it moving. And that has been one of the
problems on offense that they've they've faced, is they're they
you know, when they when they were struggling, the ball
wouldn't necessarily like it wouldn't stick like you would you
would think of like, uh, you know, it goes to
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a ball dominant scorer, it would stick as in, you
catch it and you you pause for a second or two,
and then the defense recovers and by the time you
pass it, every you know, whatever work you did to
move the defense is null and void because the defense
is back in position and loaded up on you to
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to stop your action. And Josh has been kind of
a breath of fresh air along with CJ. Frederick, that
they're decisive that they they they either get it and
make an action to score a basket or they get
it and they keep it moving so that the offense
stays functional. Uh. And on that regard, I think he's
a guy you have to play because he makes smart plays,
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he rebounds, he defends, and now he's he's playing offensively
with some confidence. And you know, I've taken a lot
of heat. I said when Josh Reid was an incoming freshman,
the my prediction for him that he would be a
thousand point scorer at the University of Cincinnati. Heat on
that how far away is He's eight twelve away. So
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if they grant the five for five, right, like next
year will be his fourth year and then he would
have a fifth year after that, we're finally moving in
the right direction, though.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
But I do think there's value in that. I think
there's always value. I used to love this, not I'm
not comparing the two. What I loved most about Gary
Clark was he never made a mistake. That he would
miss shots right, and sometimes a guy would beat him,
but he was never at a position you never there
were ever these like you know, low iq things. I mean,
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he didn't do things he couldn't do. Now his game expanded,
but like his first couple of years, he didn't take
shots he couldn't take. And I think there's such value
in that. And that's what I've seen from Josh. It
helps that he's making shots right, it's it's helped that
he's making plays, and it helped that he made play
a big play in the defensive end late in the
game the other night. But I do think there's value
in a guy who just doesn't make a mistake. And again,
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that doesn't mean he's going to do something with the
basketball every time he has it. It doesn't mean he's
not going to get beat on defense like that stuff happens.
But there's value in a guy who's just not going
to screw up. Because at other times in the season
it felt like they had five guys who were at
times walking and running screw ups.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah, they were all playing individually right, like there was
nothing connected about the offense when they were scoring forty
and forty eight and fifty two points. The other thing
that does give me a kick out out of where
Josh is at right now is you know the people
that say, you know, I can't get into college sports
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anymore because nobody sticks around. Everybody's a transfer. You know,
you don't get to know these guys, you don't get
to watch them develop, and then you know the next breath,
that guy hasn't helped out in a year and a half.
I get him in the hell out of town, you
get him in the transfer portal. Well, which one is it?
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Do you want to watch the guy developed or do
you want to get his butt in the transfer portal?
It can't be both things. Josh is what people used
to claim that they love about college sports, A guy
that loves the university, works his butt off, is about
the right things that you know, if you remember last year,
he struggled to get on the floor last year too,
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And what do I have to do to get on
the floor. You have to do you have to be
trustworthy as John Newman's replacement as our defensive stopper. What
did Josh Reed do? He became John Newman's sub when
John needed a breather, They went to Josh Reed down
the stretch of last year, and then this year it's
you know, we need this role and now he's filling
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that role. So and Josh Reed is also a kid.
When I met him, he was sixteen mo. And I
interviewed him, and the first time I interviewed him, I
walked away and went, well, there's a sixteen year old
that's smarter than me. Not that that's difficult, but it
was very apparent in my first conversation with him, is
much more intelligent than I was.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
He's also a guy. You probably know this. On his
recruiting visit West Miller took him to play golf, took.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Him to play golf. He also took him he wanted
to major in geology, and so they took him to
the geology department and apparently they treated him like a
zoo animal because they had never had an athlete interested
in majoring in geology before.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
You speaking of players deciding whether or not to stay
or go, what about all these folks who will now
tell you they wanted Victor Lockin to stay. You see,
all along after back to back twenty two point performances,
including eight blocks across two games against Duke and UNC
for Clemson.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
How much do you believe that those are the same
people that booed him when he was here at Cincinnati
a year ago, Because I'm guess those are one and
the same, right, Like they blew the kid out of
the gym. He couldn't even get off the bench to
come to the scorers table and people would start doing
and now why didn't the coach keep him? I mean,
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it can be exhausting.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Mo.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I'm really happy for Vic very like you know, he
was a good kid here never had an issue played hard,
you know, But I think the thing that made like
that decision difficult in terms of, let's be honest, it's
a financial investment. Now, Fick struggled for three years in
February coming down the stretch, like because of the way
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he played, how much he put his body on the
line when he was on the floor. Physically, he really
struggled at the end of seasons. And if you're looking
at that and thinking, we think this is an NCAA
tournament team, it's really hard to invest a lot of
money in a guy that you watched not be able
to finish strong over the three years that you coached him.
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So kudos to Vic for so far, you know, turning
the corner on that and being able to be a
guy that you can count on in late January and February.
But you know, I think it had just run its
course here kind of unfortunately, and that stinks because I
just from a media standpoint, like be good or be interesting,
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there was nobody more interesting than Vick Lockin when he
came in for an interview, right, and he came in
after Hawaii, remember with the lay on and the sunglasses
like he was hilarious. But I'm happy for him. But
those people are lying to themselves because they were also
booing Vic out of town last year in February when
he was struggling.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Had they brought him back, and had his return been
accompanied by this quote from the head coach, you know,
reflective of how they thought Vic was due for a
big season year five that you see, it would have
been laughed at. It would have been laughed at. So
I'm happy that Vic is having I was skeptical that
it would work out at Clemson. I watched him on Saturday,
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and I watched him again at UFC, and then was
he was terrific? And he was terrific, specifically at the
rim On defense. It was big of a defense. So the
Bearcats have obviously made dramatic improvements on the offensive end.
We've seen that does do those things have to come
at the expense of what they're doing on the defensive
side of the floor, because now that area has to
get better.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
I don't think it has to come at the expense
I do think MO. But we've talked about this a lot,
especially in this format that the Big twelve has forced
upon everyone this year with twenty league games in ten
weeks where you don't get a bye week, you don't
get time to really work on stuff like you're gonna be,
you know, better at the things that you're focusing on
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in the limited amount of time you had to practice.
And the offense was so bad that they had to
spend a lot of time in practice getting the offense
out of their funk. I know you're not allowed to
say the F word. Brad Schendall from the Topeka Times
did that last year after the Kansas game and Lawrence
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and he got reprimanded. Uh, but you know, they they
had to work a lot on offense. The other thing though,
that you know, I've asked people that some have some
have think, you know, leaned in my direction. Others think
maybe I'm a little bit off on this one. But
I think this team is much better defending teams that
do a lot of their work off the dribble. They
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have not to me, to my eye, they have not
been a team that defends well against teams that really
passed the ball by u Utah's number. And if Utah
doesn't have a great offense, but they're number one in
assistory on their made baskets and I think that has
been a problem all season. The teams that have been
able to exploit this defense had been able to exploit
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this defense moving the ball quickly via the pass and
making you know, making open threes or making open shops.
As a result, I don't know that that's fixable in
the middle of the season. Like, I just don't know,
you know, schematically or athletically. If this is a team
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that's going to be great defending teams to pass it
really well, but they have to get a little bit
better than they have because let's be honest with ourselves,
the three teams that they beat, the three teams that
they put up big numbers on, were three of the
lower end teams in defense in the Big Twelve. Over
these next seven games, the level of defense is going
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to elevate. Scoring is going to be more difficult. You're
not going to get eighty five eighty eighty five points
a game against Iowa State, against West Virginia, against Houston,
you know, so you certainly can't let Iowa State score
eighty because they're not going to let you. So the
defense does have to tighten up here down the stretch
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really quick.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Because there's two things let's start there. Do you and
you reference the game and what they're going to have
to do. Wes Miller, immediately after the Utah game, was
already playing the no one's going to give us a
chance to win?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Card?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Are you giving them a chance? And Aames be honest
with me, Should I give them a chance on Saturday?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Not? Really? Here's the thing. I need to see them
do it against a really good defense, agreed, Like you know,
our old buddy Marvin, I see better than I hear.
I need to see them against the top twenty five
level defense, and this is a top ten defense at
Iowa State. I need to see them do it against
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a team of that caliber for me to go okay,
like they are definitely better, because look, they played BYU
and Utah and the offense stunk when they played them
on the road, and then they played them here in
the offense was great. Like, the offense has improved, but
has it improved enough to beat the upper crust of
this league? And until I see it, it's difficult to
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just take that immediate leap of faith that because they've
played really well in these last three games, that it's
just instantly going to translate. I will say Kansas State
the Iowa State by twenty in Ames two weeks ago.
It was also the first game that Iowa State has
lost at home in seven hundred plus days, So going
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in there to win is very difficult. But you know
what we you and I do have in our memory
bank mode a win in Ames in our memory bank.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
We do. An ugly game, but a win and Names.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
I remember it well, got a win, got out of
town with the dub that just get on win by
one and get on the plane MO really quick.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Because because West talked about it today, are they going
to stay moving forward with twenty league games in the
Big twelve?
Speaker 2 (14:54):
No, I don't think there's any chance. It just doesn't
make any sense. Like I know, the idea is television inventory,
and if they did stay with twenty games, you'd have
to move two or three of them into December, like
this January first, to the end of the regular season.
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Squeezing twenty league games in a league this good is stupid.
I said it the day that it was announced. I
said it all summer and now you're starting to hear
the narrative catch up with what I was talking about
is it's it's just it doesn't make sense. It's not
it's not feasible to these programs to have to do
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this twice a week for ten consecutive weeks. It's too much.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
I would agree with that. Awesome stuff. Man, I kept
it longer than usual. Thank you as always.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I appreciate you having me Moo. You have a great day.
And are you in on Monday?
Speaker 1 (15:55):
I'm working on Monday. I may need to take next
Friday off. I will know tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Are you Are you preparing me for working for you
next Friday? Is that what's happening? Not conditioning.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
I'm not in charge of who does or doesn't fill in,
but I an off day next Friday may have to
happen for reasons that I don't care to get into,
but I would I but I will be here on Monday. Yes,
your your friend Mo. Then your friend MO likes to
work the winter holidays to use comp days when it's
warm out.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
So there you go. I will see you Monday, and
if you need me on Friday, just let me know.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Good stuff. Chad Brendle, thanks so much. Good to bearcat
journal dot com. Follow Chad on Twitter at bearcat Journal
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