May 27, 2025 • 15 mins
Paul Dehner Jr. of The Athletic and The Growler Podcast joined us to discuss the Cincinnati Bengals, who wore helmets at Tuesday's practice.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
ESPN fifteen thirty. That's US, Good afternoon, five minutes after
three o'clock. This is ESPN fifteen thirty at moegor. Thank
you so much for listening. Hope you had a really
nice Memorial Day weekend. My thanks to Mike Petralia for
tin shitting yesterday.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Awesome stuff.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
I listened to most of that show, and again, hope
you had a great weekend. Hope your week abbreviated week
perhaps is off to an awesome start. In thirty minutes,
will be joined by the head baseball coach at Miami University,
Brian Smiley, who in his second season has taken the
RedHawks to the NCAA Tournament. They'll play on Friday against Tennessee.
(00:37):
Brian joins us at three thirty five. UC baseball coach
Jordan Bishel the Bearcats and RedHawks both in Knoxville on Friday.
Both in Knoxville this weekend. Jordan Bischell joins us in
the five o'clock hour. Entire show preview is available on
Twitter at moegar. Thanks to Emery Federal Credit Union, your
credit union with hard since nineteen thirty nine. Go to
(00:57):
Emery FCU dot org. Typically on Tuesdays. We're joined in
studio by our buddy, Paul Dayner Junior, covering the Bengals
of course for the Athletic and also the proprietor and
host of the Growler podcast, which is a must if
you're a Bengals fan. I am not in the normal
studio today. I'm broadcasting from Indianapolis. Gonna go catch Nick
(01:19):
Pacer tonight, So no in studio visit from Paul, but
we still have them on the show, I believe, fresh
out of the Bengals locker room, the Bengals having an
availability after their practice today.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Paul, how you doing doing good? How are you doing?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I mean, is the tension growing already as you get
ready to head over to the Stield House.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
You know, I've tried to focus on the task at hand.
I've tried to focus on getting here, getting my way
to Indianapolis and the studio up here, focusing on the
show and making sure we are putting together a professional
broadcast that you know, sort of encompasses all the things
that my audience cares about. But comes six o'clock, I
(02:00):
will be an absolute basket case.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Well, you're you're gonna be in better spirits than you
could have been had that massive comeback not happened on Sunday.
I was worried about the state of your trip up
here on Tuesday if you knew that you were just
going to watch the Knicks get swept. But now there's
just so much life and energy. It's gotta be uh.
You gotta be ready to rock.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
I am.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I am ready to go. I'm hopeful for tonight we
will see. Did anything interesting happen at football practice today?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
More more?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
There were helmets, Wow, there was there was actual here's
here's here's what I'll say. There was a little bit
more action for this time of year than we have
typically seen. There was sort of like whatever I guess
seven on seven or throwing drill, where it was actual.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Ones on ones where you.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Had Tea Higgins out running routes against Pam Taylor Britt
and you had all the all the all the names
out there getting in real work trying to complete passes.
Yet Jalen Davis had had a pick six uh today
on Jake Browning. There was there was a little bit
more action I think than we've seen in the OTAs
(03:18):
in the past, in terms of a lot more UH
ones on ones, which is something that you know, I
go back to. I was talking to somebody about this
today when we were in Palm Beach and we were
talking to Zach Taylor and talking a lot about how
you can fix the offseason program, how can it feel different,
And then we talked a lot about playing guys in
the preseason, what camp would look like, and it was
sort of pushed down what.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
You really could do in OTAs.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Now, that's not really a great place to do a
lot of good on good because just by the nature
of the waves set up. So I thought it was
notable that we saw a decent amount of it here
at the end today, and uh, gotta gotta look at
a few of the stars out there and competing. So
that's a step in the right direction, I would suppose
for those that would like to see a little more
intensity this time of year.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yeah, I'm I'm happy to hear this. It's a little
more oomph, it's a little more Paul ready for urgency.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Uh yeah, gotta have urgency. Gotta have urgency. I'm not
gonna go urgency. I'm not gonna really Okay, I mean
it's still it's still you know, we can see what
it is okay. I think you know, there's still it's
it's different and that probably means something.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
But no, Stewart's still correct. Ah, it's correct.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Not even trying to hide the resignation that we're gonna
have to ask about this while already exhausted with another
off field contract thing.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
This is great. Yeah, No, just standing on the side watching.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
He's got he's got his he's got his jersey on
and stuff, and he's he's there, but he's just he's
just watching and we wait for that to get itself
figured out.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Can you explain why they asked Cordell Folson to take
a pay cut?
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (05:03):
We just got done talking to Cordell for a little
while in the locker room actually, and I think, look, they
I think there's an acknowledgment that he was not going
to play on that three point seven five number that
the you know, the performance based pay escalators took him
up to this year, and so when they brought it
(05:24):
to him, he was able to sort of counter and
find a way to get some a bit of guaranteed
money that he didn't previously have that he can go
in his pocket just in case they do end up
cutting him but he wants to. His point was the
reason why he agreed to what it ended up being,
which was, you know, not exactly substantial, was that he
(05:46):
wants to be here. He really feels like his career
can be rejuvenated under Scott Peters, and and so you know,
there he could have been like, you know what, just
let me go and and fine, you want to I'm
not gonna do it. Cut me if that's what it
comes to, and I'll go play somewhere else. And he said,
I didn't want that. I asked him specifically, what was
the benefit of doing this for you? And he said
(06:06):
that it was it was the because I think Scott
Peters can really be a difference maker for me and
and I want to give this a real chance here,
and so that that's kind of I think what it
was is they recognized that that number was not going
to be realistic. Let's find a way to bring it down,
and they sort of countered, and Cordell felt like it
was worth his time to stay here. And so they're
(06:28):
they're gonna go, and he's gonna try to win a job,
and then he's still got to make the money that
remains on it because they can let him go all
the same and they'll just take that half million.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Dollar hit or whatever the money WI.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
End up being specifically, it's not it's still not a
lot of guarantee that's left for them to take take
the hit on. So I mean, he's still got to
go earn it and earn a roster spot. But you know,
it's a it's a chance for him to feel a
little bit more security, uh, and then to feel like
he's getting paid at the level that they're more comfortable with.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I suppose.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
I know, I know everybody is down on Cordell Volson,
and everybody wants to see two new starters from last year.
But if Cordell Volson is my backup guard and he
has been rejuvenated, that to me tells me that this
offensive line is okay.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah, I mean, he's I throw him in the same
bucket with really all these guys like I just when
you talk about Lucas Patrick and Cody Ford and Dylan
Fairchild and Cordell Volson, I feel like they're all guys
that you would really like to have as your six,
as your backup, you know, coming off the bench, Guys
(07:37):
that there's reason to believe in them and with Volson.
I think that reason is is what I just said
is that if, if, if it really is a great
match with Scott Peters, and Scott Peters has a lot
of positive things to say about him, then then you
could be getting the guy that you thought you were
getting when he sort of came on the scene and
was pretty impressive for a fourth round pick early in
(07:58):
his career.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
So, you know, there's that's the level that all of
those guys are. There's no stars there. These are.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
These are guys that are looking to rise from serviceable,
to find a good spot, to be more consistent and
guess what, that would be way better than what happened
last year. So if they can get that out of
that group, they'll be they'll be happy. But I don't
I don't like view some large gap necessarily those four.
I just think they're all very similar level players.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah, so would you would you give him a shot
at still being the starting a starting guard?
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I mean, look, I mean you're you've got a war
of attrition for you know, Cody Ford and Lucas Patrick,
older guys you know, by NFL standards to make it
healthy to the opener. So that you know, there's it's
the NFL. It's offensive lineman. There's probably gonna be an
injury or two in there. Cody Ford may have to
(08:57):
start being more of your third swing tackle maybe at
some point, Like there's a lot of things that can
happen to change this whole thing up. And Courtell Wilson
could be right there, and there's no reason to believe
that he does. If he comes out and does look
rejuvenated like a new player, and Dylan Fairschild looks like
a rookie that you would expect most rookies to look
like because that's what happens in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
You could absolutely see.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Him winning that battle and be just being more consistent
in them saying you can hear it now right well,
early in the season, we want the guy out there
that's played, it's gonna have.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Been in it. We're gonna ease the rookie in behind them.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
We have still think Dylan has a bright future, Like
I can hear the press conference in my head right now,
so I think that that's absolutely a possibility.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
So twice this offseason they have asked players to take
pay cuts, but they haven't cut them. And I was
thinking about this on the drive up here. This I
can't recall many instances where they have done this with
multiple players in the same offseason, much less any one
individual player this offseason. So number one address that for
me in number two is this it's a new way
(10:00):
of doing business moving forward for this franchise.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Maybe, I mean, when you're right is in the past,
you know, maybe there were some years where you would say, oh,
they would just you know, give the guy the contract
here and it's what it is, play it out, loyalty
and all those things that that the Bengals used to
be I guess accused of. And then here you have
I think a team that's there. They're trying to figure
(10:25):
out where every angle comes from and properly address the.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Roster that way.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
I I don't totally have a grip on the small cuts,
like you know what, they feel like they're totally gaining
by that. So I don't is that a new way
of doing business? Maybe I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
It is all that impactful.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
But I do think it is a way that you're
seeing them say, hey, we're not gonna if we have
a value on you and it doesn't match whatever your
contract is, uh, and we feel like we have another
option that we could use in sort of a negotiation.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it more aggressively
than we have in the past.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
So that's probably something that we can judge a little
bit more come next year if it happens again and
we see it become a repeat. For right now, it
could just be something in an angle that they took
because of the way that their stuff was set up
this year.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
What do you think Jermaine Pratt did today?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Wondered why they're holding him hostage? Just sat back.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
There is probably a dartboard right like, yeah, I'm not
sure who's photos up there, but he's throwing it and
he's just like, at some point, can I go on
with my life?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Please?
Speaker 3 (11:38):
It's you don't want me. I'm okay with that. Can
I go somewhere where they can? Can you just let me?
Speaker 2 (11:46):
What do we doing? You know? I just and I
may imagine that.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Is probably a part of his conversation he's having in
his head or to whoever he's sitting in the room
with right now.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Have you started to all handicap the training camp competition
for the Moeger Award.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Uh not not really. Uh, you know it's gonna be heated,
obviously always is.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
But I mean, I know we we discussed the idea
of Jermaine Burton being that in his eligibility potentially to
be in that mix.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
But I'm sure, I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
There's gonna be some some players that are gonna emerge.
But it was day one and Helmet's first time. Guys
really out and I don't have any handicapping on that yet,
but I will get to you as soon as I
see one leaping grab in like the back of an
end zone in a red zone drill. Even on air,
I will be tweeting at Moegar and letting you know
(12:43):
that there's been a development.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Well, I feel like whoever wins the award, which for
those who don't know, goes to, you know, a wide
receiver who comes from nowhere to generate some camp buzz.
They don't even necessarily have to make the team, although
many have. Andre Yoshabas twice has won the award and
has been on the roster the last couple of years.
But to me, I envision like guy makes a play
(13:05):
and you folks there standing on the sideline start kind
of sharing each other these glances, and that to me
tells me somebody has thrown their head into the ring
to win this imaginary award.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
No, that's how it's gonna go. And that video will
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Speaker 1 (13:21):
All right, I appreciate it as always I Mission Studio,
but we'll see you next week.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Thanks so much. All right, good luck tonight, mo much appreciated.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
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ESPN fifteen thirty. That's US, Good afternoon, five minutes after
three o'clock. This is ESPN fifteen thirty at moegor. Thank
you so much for listening. Hope you had a really
nice Memorial Day weekend. My thanks to Mike Petralia for
tin shitting yesterday.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Awesome stuff.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
I listened to most of that show, and again, hope
you had a great weekend. Hope your week abbreviated week
perhaps is off to an awesome start. In thirty minutes,
will be joined by the head baseball coach at Miami University,
Brian Smiley, who in his second season has taken the
RedHawks to the NCAA Tournament. They'll play on Friday against Tennessee.
(00:37):
Brian joins us at three thirty five. UC baseball coach
Jordan Bishel the Bearcats and RedHawks both in Knoxville on Friday.
Both in Knoxville this weekend. Jordan Bischell joins us in
the five o'clock hour. Entire show preview is available on
Twitter at moegar. Thanks to Emery Federal Credit Union, your
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Emery FCU dot org. Typically on Tuesdays. We're joined in
studio by our buddy, Paul Dayner Junior, covering the Bengals
of course for the Athletic and also the proprietor and
host of the Growler podcast, which is a must if
you're a Bengals fan. I am not in the normal
studio today. I'm broadcasting from Indianapolis. Gonna go catch Nick
(01:19):
Pacer tonight, So no in studio visit from Paul, but
we still have them on the show, I believe, fresh
out of the Bengals locker room, the Bengals having an
availability after their practice today.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Paul, how you doing doing good? How are you doing?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I mean, is the tension growing already as you get
ready to head over to the Stield House.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
You know, I've tried to focus on the task at hand.
I've tried to focus on getting here, getting my way
to Indianapolis and the studio up here, focusing on the
show and making sure we are putting together a professional
broadcast that you know, sort of encompasses all the things
that my audience cares about. But comes six o'clock, I
(02:00):
will be an absolute basket case.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Well, you're you're gonna be in better spirits than you
could have been had that massive comeback not happened on Sunday.
I was worried about the state of your trip up
here on Tuesday if you knew that you were just
going to watch the Knicks get swept. But now there's
just so much life and energy. It's gotta be uh.
You gotta be ready to rock.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
I am.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
I am ready to go. I'm hopeful for tonight we
will see. Did anything interesting happen at football practice today?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
More more?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
There were helmets, Wow, there was there was actual here's
here's here's what I'll say. There was a little bit
more action for this time of year than we have
typically seen. There was sort of like whatever I guess
seven on seven or throwing drill, where it was actual.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Ones on ones where you.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Had Tea Higgins out running routes against Pam Taylor Britt
and you had all the all the all the names
out there getting in real work trying to complete passes.
Yet Jalen Davis had had a pick six uh today
on Jake Browning. There was there was a little bit
more action I think than we've seen in the OTAs
(03:18):
in the past, in terms of a lot more UH
ones on ones, which is something that you know, I
go back to. I was talking to somebody about this
today when we were in Palm Beach and we were
talking to Zach Taylor and talking a lot about how
you can fix the offseason program, how can it feel different,
And then we talked a lot about playing guys in
the preseason, what camp would look like, and it was
sort of pushed down what.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
You really could do in OTAs.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Now, that's not really a great place to do a
lot of good on good because just by the nature
of the waves set up. So I thought it was
notable that we saw a decent amount of it here
at the end today, and uh, gotta gotta look at
a few of the stars out there and competing. So
that's a step in the right direction, I would suppose
for those that would like to see a little more
intensity this time of year.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yeah, I'm I'm happy to hear this. It's a little
more oomph, it's a little more Paul ready for urgency.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Uh yeah, gotta have urgency. Gotta have urgency. I'm not
gonna go urgency. I'm not gonna really Okay, I mean
it's still it's still you know, we can see what
it is okay. I think you know, there's still it's
it's different and that probably means something.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
But no, Stewart's still correct. Ah, it's correct.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Not even trying to hide the resignation that we're gonna
have to ask about this while already exhausted with another
off field contract thing.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
This is great. Yeah, No, just standing on the side watching.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
He's got he's got his he's got his jersey on
and stuff, and he's he's there, but he's just he's
just watching and we wait for that to get itself
figured out.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Can you explain why they asked Cordell Folson to take
a pay cut?
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (05:03):
We just got done talking to Cordell for a little
while in the locker room actually, and I think, look, they
I think there's an acknowledgment that he was not going
to play on that three point seven five number that
the you know, the performance based pay escalators took him
up to this year, and so when they brought it
(05:24):
to him, he was able to sort of counter and
find a way to get some a bit of guaranteed
money that he didn't previously have that he can go
in his pocket just in case they do end up
cutting him but he wants to. His point was the
reason why he agreed to what it ended up being,
which was, you know, not exactly substantial, was that he
(05:46):
wants to be here. He really feels like his career
can be rejuvenated under Scott Peters, and and so you know,
there he could have been like, you know what, just
let me go and and fine, you want to I'm
not gonna do it. Cut me if that's what it
comes to, and I'll go play somewhere else. And he said,
I didn't want that. I asked him specifically, what was
the benefit of doing this for you? And he said
(06:06):
that it was it was the because I think Scott
Peters can really be a difference maker for me and
and I want to give this a real chance here,
and so that that's kind of I think what it
was is they recognized that that number was not going
to be realistic. Let's find a way to bring it down,
and they sort of countered, and Cordell felt like it
was worth his time to stay here. And so they're
(06:28):
they're gonna go, and he's gonna try to win a job,
and then he's still got to make the money that
remains on it because they can let him go all
the same and they'll just take that half million.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Dollar hit or whatever the money WI.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
End up being specifically, it's not it's still not a
lot of guarantee that's left for them to take take
the hit on. So I mean, he's still got to
go earn it and earn a roster spot. But you know,
it's a it's a chance for him to feel a
little bit more security, uh, and then to feel like
he's getting paid at the level that they're more comfortable with.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I suppose.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
I know, I know everybody is down on Cordell Volson,
and everybody wants to see two new starters from last year.
But if Cordell Volson is my backup guard and he
has been rejuvenated, that to me tells me that this
offensive line is okay.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah, I mean, he's I throw him in the same
bucket with really all these guys like I just when
you talk about Lucas Patrick and Cody Ford and Dylan
Fairchild and Cordell Volson, I feel like they're all guys
that you would really like to have as your six,
as your backup, you know, coming off the bench, Guys
(07:37):
that there's reason to believe in them and with Volson.
I think that reason is is what I just said
is that if, if, if it really is a great
match with Scott Peters, and Scott Peters has a lot
of positive things to say about him, then then you
could be getting the guy that you thought you were
getting when he sort of came on the scene and
was pretty impressive for a fourth round pick early in
(07:58):
his career.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
So, you know, there's that's the level that all of
those guys are. There's no stars there. These are.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
These are guys that are looking to rise from serviceable,
to find a good spot, to be more consistent and
guess what, that would be way better than what happened
last year. So if they can get that out of
that group, they'll be they'll be happy. But I don't
I don't like view some large gap necessarily those four.
I just think they're all very similar level players.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah, so would you would you give him a shot
at still being the starting a starting guard?
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I mean, look, I mean you're you've got a war
of attrition for you know, Cody Ford and Lucas Patrick,
older guys you know, by NFL standards to make it
healthy to the opener. So that you know, there's it's
the NFL. It's offensive lineman. There's probably gonna be an
injury or two in there. Cody Ford may have to
(08:57):
start being more of your third swing tackle maybe at
some point, Like there's a lot of things that can
happen to change this whole thing up. And Courtell Wilson
could be right there, and there's no reason to believe
that he does. If he comes out and does look
rejuvenated like a new player, and Dylan Fairschild looks like
a rookie that you would expect most rookies to look
like because that's what happens in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
You could absolutely see.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Him winning that battle and be just being more consistent
in them saying you can hear it now right well,
early in the season, we want the guy out there
that's played, it's gonna have.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Been in it. We're gonna ease the rookie in behind them.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
We have still think Dylan has a bright future, Like
I can hear the press conference in my head right now,
so I think that that's absolutely a possibility.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
So twice this offseason they have asked players to take
pay cuts, but they haven't cut them. And I was
thinking about this on the drive up here. This I
can't recall many instances where they have done this with
multiple players in the same offseason, much less any one
individual player this offseason. So number one address that for
me in number two is this it's a new way
(10:00):
of doing business moving forward for this franchise.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Maybe, I mean, when you're right is in the past,
you know, maybe there were some years where you would say, oh,
they would just you know, give the guy the contract
here and it's what it is, play it out, loyalty
and all those things that that the Bengals used to
be I guess accused of. And then here you have
I think a team that's there. They're trying to figure
(10:25):
out where every angle comes from and properly address the.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Roster that way.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
I I don't totally have a grip on the small cuts,
like you know what, they feel like they're totally gaining
by that. So I don't is that a new way
of doing business? Maybe I don't know that.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
It is all that impactful.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
But I do think it is a way that you're
seeing them say, hey, we're not gonna if we have
a value on you and it doesn't match whatever your
contract is, uh, and we feel like we have another
option that we could use in sort of a negotiation.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
We're gonna do it. We're gonna do it more aggressively
than we have in the past.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
So that's probably something that we can judge a little
bit more come next year if it happens again and
we see it become a repeat. For right now, it
could just be something in an angle that they took
because of the way that their stuff was set up
this year.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
What do you think Jermaine Pratt did today?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Wondered why they're holding him hostage? Just sat back.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
There is probably a dartboard right like, yeah, I'm not
sure who's photos up there, but he's throwing it and
he's just like, at some point, can I go on
with my life?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Please?
Speaker 3 (11:38):
It's you don't want me. I'm okay with that. Can
I go somewhere where they can? Can you just let me?
Speaker 2 (11:46):
What do we doing? You know? I just and I
may imagine that.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Is probably a part of his conversation he's having in
his head or to whoever he's sitting in the room
with right now.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Have you started to all handicap the training camp competition
for the Moeger Award.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Uh not not really. Uh, you know it's gonna be heated,
obviously always is.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
But I mean, I know we we discussed the idea
of Jermaine Burton being that in his eligibility potentially to
be in that mix.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
But I'm sure, I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
There's gonna be some some players that are gonna emerge.
But it was day one and Helmet's first time. Guys
really out and I don't have any handicapping on that yet,
but I will get to you as soon as I
see one leaping grab in like the back of an
end zone in a red zone drill. Even on air,
I will be tweeting at Moegar and letting you know
(12:43):
that there's been a development.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Well, I feel like whoever wins the award, which for
those who don't know, goes to, you know, a wide
receiver who comes from nowhere to generate some camp buzz.
They don't even necessarily have to make the team, although
many have. Andre Yoshabas twice has won the award and
has been on the roster the last couple of years.
But to me, I envision like guy makes a play
(13:05):
and you folks there standing on the sideline start kind
of sharing each other these glances, and that to me
tells me somebody has thrown their head into the ring
to win this imaginary award.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
No, that's how it's gonna go. And that video will
be sent directly to you Especial Media.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
All right, I appreciate it as always I Mission Studio,
but we'll see you next week.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Thanks so much. All right, good luck tonight, mo much appreciated.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Paul Danner Junior covering the Bengals, Theathletic dot Com and
the Growler Podcast. Bengals going through a workout today. There
was a media availability and we'll have some of that
for you a little bit later on. Follow Paul on
Twitter at Paul Danner Junior. It is nineteen minutes after
three o'clock. This is ESPN fifteen thirty on Moegger. We
got some Bengal stuff to get to the Reds over
(13:51):
the weekend. Lose two out of three at home to
the Cubs. They come back and win yesterday. Nick Martinez,
that game was more uncomfortable than it needed to be
in the ninth inning last night or yesterday afternoon, but
they badly needed length. They badly needed a win. They
got one now Today, if you read The Inquirer or
Cincinnati dot Com, our buddy Gordon Wittenmeyer has a column
(14:13):
about why the Red should be sellers at the trade deadline,
and his exact verbiage is the Cincinnati Red should begin
preparing to sell at the trade deadline due to their
poor performance and strong National League competition. I don't think
he's entirely wrong, but number one, I think I have
a better idea. A Number two, I think we would
(14:35):
have to explore the fallout from the Reds doing that.
We'll get to that coming up here in just a bit.
Our phone numbers are five one, three, seven, four nine,
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