6/26/25 - The Mo Egger Radio Show w/ Mike Petraglia

6/26/25 - The Mo Egger Radio Show w/ Mike Petraglia

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(00:43):
war Pods. Speaking of the Bengals, boy do we have
an action packed Moegger radio show here on a Thursday
afternoon on Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. I will be filling
in for Mo for the next three hours. We have
news galore, and obviously the biggest news of the day

(01:04):
is the Cincinnati Bengals and Hamilton County agreeing to principal
terms for a new lease that will keep the team
in Cincinnati playing home games at pay Court Stadium through
June of twenty thirty six, with ten additional option years
that could extend the lease through June of twenty forty six.

(01:25):
Those ten additional option years come at two year five
two year increments, just like the current lease had. So
the Bengals and Hamilton County get it done. And here
to join me to kick off the Mowagger Radio show
on this Thursday afternoon is someone who covers the Cincinnati

(01:45):
Bengals in depth for the flagship TV station of the Bengals.
That's Jeremy Row of Fox nineteen. Jeremy, thank you very
much for taking time out on an extremely busy day
to talk some Bengals news. We'll talk some Bengals news,
we'll talk reds, but right off the top, I gotta
tell you, Jeremy, first of all, welcome, and second of all,

(02:08):
I didn't think they would get the full deal done
before June thirtieth.

Speaker 5 (02:13):
Just call me TJ. Friedel Trags. I'm bat and lead
off and honored to do so on your show. Look, man,
this is a very exciting day for Bengals fans, obviously
for the Bengals organization, for the county as well. There
was some trepidation around this. There was a sweating up
for the last minute. It was not as easy as
I think maybe some might believe that, oh, this will

(02:34):
just get done, because it will right because deadlines, get
deals done. There was a lot of details in the
fabric on this, and I think the fact that they
did get it done, at least everything has agreed upon
to be signed, that it will be signed. I think
it's a huge win for all. We can get into
the weeds on you know who won the deal or
who befit benefits the most, But I think the fact

(02:55):
that it's done, that you can go to pay Course
Stadium and watch Joe Burrow through a touchdown passes It's
mar Chase for the next several years at least, is
a win for all.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
Well, what I really believe in, someone very near and
dear to my heart, the lovely Debor Ann, made this point,
and I think it's a good one. She said, there
is no way in the world the Bengals at this
stage want to leave the Banks, and the Banks don't
want the Bengals to leave. I think that had a
lot to do with it. I think there was motivation
for the Bengals to get this deal done because it's

(03:27):
going to help them critically, help them modernize Paid Corpse Stadium.
But for Hamilton County, they needed this anchor tenant to
remain right where they were to keep the banks viable
going forward.

Speaker 5 (03:40):
I mean, think about how much the downtown area and
the banks of Cincinnati has improved immensely over the years
and how it's grown. I mean, I moved to your
track that moved here almost twelve years ago, and it's
amazing just to see the growth already and there's still
I think there's still a ways you can see it going.
And that's why when the Bengals released their statement and

(04:00):
they specifically mention the banks and the renovation and improving
the overall look of the banks and around the stadium
and how that financially impacts everything, I think that that
is key because to me, that's kind of as the
banks grows and becomes such a big part of the
entire experience of the riverfront and downtown, there's still that

(04:22):
there's been that last thing hanging out there, like, okay,
but what happens with Paykhorse Stadium? What do they do?
How does it look? How does it upgrade? And there's
just been there's been so much happening around that stadium.
We see construction if you drive by it, obviously, and
it's like that's kind of the last big thing right
now of making that part of the riverfront, making that

(04:44):
part of the banks look a bit better, right, look
a little more dressed up, And I think it can
only go forward now. And I think that's why that's
also part of the big win for the Bengals in
the county today.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
You mentioned the release and lo and behold hear that
trinkly the paper actually have that release in front of me,
and I'm going to read from it, Jeremy. The banks
generates over two point five billion dollars in economic and
annual economic impact, with the Bengals driving over one billion
dollars in annual economic impact. Under a new deal, the

(05:17):
Bengals in Hamilton County are poised to continue transforming the riverfront,
driving economic growth, and delivering unforgettable moments for fans for
years to come in downtown Cincinnati. Yes, it's a PR release.
I obviously understand that. I understand where it's coming from.
It's coming from the Bengals perspective, but they have the
numbers to document that. The county has the numbers to

(05:40):
document that. And that's why I think both sides knew
that this was not just opinion, this was not grand standing,
This was actual economic value. That they wanted to keep downtown.

Speaker 5 (05:55):
Absolutely, and I think as you get into some of
the numbers, and look, our Mike Shell has been all
over this all day and he's going to have more
at four o'clock on Fox ninety now subtle plug there
for the Bengals flagship. So he's going to have a
lot of the numbers and details. But I just want
to say, you know, as you talk about financially how
this all looks, you know, they were talking about you know,

(06:17):
I think it was back in April, tracks you know,
in those preliminary numbers of what this renovation would be,
we were getting towards one billion dollars, right, and so
it's four hundred and seventy million. The Bengals are basically
going to be on the hook for twenty five percent
of that renovation and the county is going to take
the remaining seventy five percent as they drew it up,

(06:39):
and we don't know exactly what all of those renovations
are going to be, but if you think about what
the stadium lease was last time around, right, it was
more like eighty eight percent on the county and twelve
percent on the Bengals, And this has been an issue
for so long with people just talking about taxes and
how it looks and how the Bengals dealt with it,

(06:59):
you know it from their perspective, and so to to
get this seventy five twenty five split to lower the
amount of renovation costs, I think is the big win
in all of this. Now, as a fan, you know
you want to go. Look, fans want to go see
the biggest, best, coolest, brightest stateu Sofi Stadium is an experience, right,
you go to AP and T Stadium, the upkeep on that,

(07:21):
you know, Jerry World, you go to Minnesota. There's so
many spots where you can go. You see these brand new,
just multi billion dollar places. That wasn't going to happen here.
What needed to happen was there are there are leaks
in the house here and there. There are upgrades that
we need to do on the pay job outside. We
might want to replace the siding with some hardyboard siding.

(07:44):
There were a lot of things like that that need
to be upgraded and renovated, and honestly a lot of
those things are essential to this franchise and moving forward
in a positive direction.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
Yes, absolutely, it has to happen, had to happen.

Speaker 5 (07:57):
So there's so many maint and it's things that need
to be done, and that is key. However, I think
there will also be some cool renovation aspects that do
improve the overall experience as well.

Speaker 4 (08:09):
Yeah, the four hundred and seventy million dollar renovation project
will maintain a best in class NFL stadium. This is
again according to the Bengals release that attracts major concerts
and events covering to Cincinnati. The Bengals will invest one
hundred and twenty million dollars in the renovation portion of
the project, and that one hundred and twenty million will

(08:30):
cover seventy five percent of the new improvements to the stadium.
Just to make that clear. Now we get beyond the
business and today is a terrific moment because they avoid
the June thirtieth deadline. They can move forward and now
focus primarily on football. Look, part of what's been in
the background throughout the Joe Burrow deal, throughout the Jamar

(08:53):
Chase and t Higgins deeel so obviously been in the
background this summer as spring and summer with regard to
Trey Hendrickson, they needed to get this done now with
this out of the way, do you think the Bengals
will feel more empowered, more freedom to get more deals
done on the football side of things.

Speaker 5 (09:14):
I think it's important that to get past this. I mean, look,
there were things that were very in front of mine
with the team, and the stadium deal was a massive
part of that. It's not that they couldn't multitask, but
I think we had seen when it comes to Trey Hendrickson,
at least we've seen wheels in motion. I think you know,
and you're going to hear this a lot, but the
fact that Trey is back in town training shows that

(09:38):
he is preparing his body and mind and getting ready
for a rigorous NFL season. He is not the kind
of guy who is out on the golf course, you know,
taking pictures doing those kind of things, like posting on
Instagram that he's out golfing someone like he's We are
seeing on social media that Trey Hendrickson is beginning to
get his body ready as if he took a day off,

(10:00):
and I'm sure he didn't, right, but that alone, I
think speaks to good progress from his standpoint, and then
from the Bengals standpoint, you're starting to hear more and
more murmurs of just them beginning to get around, if
not the table, get on the phone, get those conversations
moving again, and I think it is moving in a
positive direction. Does it get done by day one of

(10:21):
training camp? That I don't know. But the thing that
I will continue to say tracks is that if I
know Trey Hendrickson just as well as you do, the
way he operates, how much he cares what people think
about him, who he is as a person, his character,
who is as a player. I know that Trey Hendrickson
will play for the Bengals this season, and somehow or another,

(10:42):
I think they will come to an amicable agreement that
gets Tray on the field at some point.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
I know not every player, maybe not even every coach,
but I know not every player is going to be
paying attention to the story because how does it really
truly affect them? That's their workplace, but deep down doesn't
really affect them. What I do think it does is
to the people or to the players at the top

(11:08):
of the food chain. Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, t like Trey,
like you said, Trey Henderson, other key players. Ted Carris
would be another they're like, Okay, this ownership's gotten that
deal done. They did get Burrow, Chase and Higgins done.
They are serious and they're taking that so called window
of opportunity with Burrow as quarterback seriously, and maybe, you know,

(11:31):
to see Trey Hendrickson, like you said, starting to work out,
making it known that he's not just taking this summer off.
He is getting, like you said, Jeremy, in a football mindset.
I think that's a good thing. And I think the
Bengals are taking this window with submergency right now.

Speaker 5 (11:50):
And imagine what the conversations must be like with Joe
Burrow amongst his teammates. I mean, you know, everyone's excited
to see, you know, the Quarterback documentary, you know, with
Joe Burrow, to see that come out here very soon
in the next couple of weeks, and trailers are out
there about Joe Burrow talking about his window and his
age and how important a season like this is going

(12:13):
to be. You know, even last season, I think he
saw it that way and it didn't play out the
way he wanted it to. It's it's not like, you know,
fans always kind of go back to what Joe Burrow
is going to pull a Carson Palmer if things don't
work out. That's not Joe Burro, it's not who he is.
It's not It won't play out like that for Joe
Burrow in my mind. But Joe Burrow also can put
pressure on the organization by his statements, whether subtle or loud,

(12:38):
the way he carries himself. Joe Burrow has made it
known that this year cannot be another let's just say
nine to eight year, which has been a floppy year
for the Bengals the last season. It cannot be that again.
It has to be a year where they are contending
once again for a championship, where they are in the hunt,
in the mix for a top two or three seed
in the AFC. It has to be one of those years.

(12:59):
And I think that needs to be the driving narrative
for everything, and I think the organization steals that certainly
from pub one.

Speaker 4 (13:06):
Speaking with Jeremy Row of Fox nineteen here in Cincinnati,
the official flagship TV station of the Cincinnati Bengals, I'm
glad you brought that up. Because Joe Burrow is not
Carson Palmer. I think we know that he is not
going to throw any temper Tantrum and Carson Palmer. Really
he had his legitimate beefs with the organization. I'm not

(13:29):
saying that, but he is going to go about it
in a much more nuanced way. I love that word
Jeremy nuanced. And from that night in Dallas on Monday
night after they escaped with that victory of the Cowboys
to now, that's what Burrow has done. He's made his
opinion known very strongly, very boldly, but without you know,

(13:53):
being a bull enough china shop. But I think actually
the Blackburn Brown family appreciates that. They appreciate the fact
that the leader of the franchise is showing urgency to
win and get everybody on board and get everybody on
the same page. And that's what I think you see
more and more with this organization, at least from the

(14:14):
players and coaches.

Speaker 5 (14:18):
And I also found it fascinating when he was asked
a lot about you know, Trey Henderson in his situation
in Tracks. Of course you remember this, you know, just recently.
You could tell that Joe Burrow was basically saying at
that point, oh no, I've made my case on all
the contracts that works. We're good now. Like he he
had his window where it opened in Dallas, you know,

(14:40):
after a Monday night win, and this team was still
trying to find its footing in a lot of ways
when he decided he was going to start changing the
narrative with T. Higgins and even catching T Higgins off
guard in some ways. But look, this is this has
been an entire offseason where there has been a lot
of movement to help the important players get paid to
stick around, and Burrow has in some ways helped move

(15:03):
mountains for this organization with what he has done his
nuanced way, as you said, of going about it. But
here we are now and it's time to get down
to business. And I think that's the mindset that Joe
Burrow has, that this team has. The one thing that
I know as we talk about this team and what
Joe wants tracks its I talked with Orlando Brown Junior
recently at the Juneteenth event he was doing downtown, and

(15:27):
he said his message was going to be for every
national show he went on, which he want quite a few.
His bullhorn was this is the closest team in the
NFL right now and that they are more prepared than
they've ever been to go win. Can that be cliche.
Can that just be a summer statement? Absolutely, it can be.
But we're about to find out if that's true or not,

(15:47):
if they truly are collectively of one mind. Because last year,
the offense and defense, even though they didn't say it exclusively,
even though they didn't bullhorn this, they were oftentimes I
feel like looking across the room, the defense wondering, Hey,
what does the offense think of us? Right now? The
offense not saying it, but basically saying, we've done everything

(16:08):
we can and it's still not enough. They cannot have
another season like that where they have that kind of
an undertone to almost every game. Right, That was such
a driving thing last season. They want to be collectively
on the same page, moving forward together and getting this
thing to a championship.

Speaker 4 (16:25):
Do you believe you have kids?

Speaker 6 (16:26):
Right?

Speaker 5 (16:28):
Two kids? They are going into fifth and third grade.

Speaker 4 (16:31):
Yes, so here and there's a parenting trick. And I
love love bringing up this analogy because I have two
wonderful daughters speaking positivity into existence. That's what I think
Burrow and the Bengals players, they're leaders anyway, are trying
to do. And when you speak something often enough, you

(16:51):
start to believe it. You start to believe that it's
going to happen, and there are reasons it's going to happen.
And that's what I think Burrow did, and that's what
I think Burrow is in the process of doing. And yes,
we are not going to find out anything until they
take the field they get all of that. But in
the meantime, I like the energy that's flowing out of

(17:13):
the team right now, and we'll see if it matters.
I want to switch gears really quick and ask you
about the Reds and what you make of the Reds
right now. I'll just leave it at that. What do
you make of the Reds right now?

Speaker 5 (17:27):
I think they are very close And what I mean
by that is they are close to making believers of
many that they can contend for a playoff spot, that
they can contend in the wild card. I don't think
they're quite yet there. The reason why I say that
is because you have the oddity of a team that

(17:50):
has won five to the last six series, that has
been playing great baseball for a couple a few weeks,
but you still have the oddity of what exactly was
that on Wednesday night? You know, you have that in
the mix of a team who won two against the Yankees,
who had an incredible comeback on Tuesday night, and then
Wednesday just looked a little disinterested at times, didn't look

(18:13):
like they had the mental fire to just go and
put a choke hold on the Yankees and sweep them.
We saw the many mental mistakes that they made, the
errors and sometimes errors that aren't even recorded as airs
show ms at a lot of those things in the mix,
you get it right. So to me, that is where
I say they are close. You know, it's they won

(18:34):
the series against the Yankees. Is that impressive? Absolutely it is.
Have the Yankees been struggling, Absolutely have been. But it's
a nice series win. They've been playing good ball. It's
just that next step of stay in their mentally, stay
in their mentally when it matters, especially when they have
a chance to really get hot to sweep a team
like the Yankees. They squandered that away last night. And

(18:56):
it wasn't just like it was a five to four game.
It was one of those games where they weren't even
in the conversation most of the game. It's I like
to win the game. So that that to me is like,
that's the next step the maturation for this team. I
do believe they can get there. I believe the rotation
is only going to get better. Austin Hayes if he
can stay healthy. Obviously he's proven you can look at
the numbers that he helps this team a time. So

(19:18):
I think there's a lot of promise that this team
can be one that contends. I still think they are
just right there on the edge of fully turning that
corner to becoming that team.

Speaker 4 (19:28):
Yeah, and I really do believe that Noelve Marte and
Austin Hayes are going to come back, and how they
do is going to really become a big factor in
how successful this team is in the second half of
the season. Tony Pike talked about it in the crossover
with me, you know, about thirty minutes ago. They just

(19:51):
can't right now. They're not positioned to handle left handed pitching.
I don't think any team was beating Max Freed last night.
He's ten and two, He's in the Cy Young talk.
There's no question about that. There's no shame in losing
to Max Fried last night. But the Reds need right
handed bats to fortify in the lineup. I'm gonna cut
it there. I have taken more than enough of your

(20:13):
time today, Jeremy, I really I'm this very busy Bengals Day,
Bengals News Day. I want to thank you for joining me,
and can you let people know what you're working on?
I think you already did that in part, but what
you're working on for four point thirty five and six.

Speaker 5 (20:29):
Yeah, So a story you can see today is a
fun camp that I was at this morning Sycamore High
School with Elidah the Cruz his annual baseball camp, and
we had a lot of fun talking with him. He
talked with us about how much he enjoyed competing against
the star like Aaron Judge this week playing the Yankees,
but also just kind of what it means to him
to get back. Look, it's a day off of the Reds, right,

(20:52):
It's not something he has to do. And he was
out there for almost two hours in the heat with
the kids doing that. So we have that story coming
up at five point thirty on Fox. Thanks. Mike Schell
has all of the stadium news with the Bengals in
Hamilton County coming up at four o'clock in all afternoon,
and then something else you should stick around for if
you follow me on social media. First of all, thanks,

(21:12):
If you don't, that's fine. At Fox nineteen Jeremy on
x slash Twitter, I did sit down with TJ. Friedle
recently this past weekend. That's going to be coming out
on social media tonight. I think around seven o'clock. Spent
about fifteen minutes with him and just the career season
that he's having, so look for that as well. But

(21:32):
always good content on Fox nineteen now and thanks to
the plug is always tracked, you bet you.

Speaker 4 (21:38):
TJ. Friedel is kind of a hard guy to get
anything out of. It's a joke.

Speaker 5 (21:43):
Hey he was awesome. I mean, I know, I know
a joke. He's phenomenal, but he was great. Like I
learned so much about him from you know, he loves
to listen to reggae, he plays with the ukulele here
and there. We got into a lot of fun stuff,
but also obviously you know what it might take for
him to make the All Star Game, you know, and

(22:03):
then what he calls the moment of his career and
what he's doing with the ball and the poster he's making.
So just just a lot of those fun things as well.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
Outstanding He is Jeremy Row of Fox nineteen here in Cincinnati,
the official TV flagship station of the Cincinnati Bengals. Want
to thank him for taking some time out on a
very bit busy Bengals news day. My name is Mike
Petralia Trags. And on the other side of the break,
on the bottom of the hour, we'll talk with Rick Walls,
executive director of the Cincinnati Reds Hall of Fame and Museum.

(22:35):
A big night and big weekend coming up for them.
For now, my name is Mike Petralia Trags. You're listening
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Mike Ktralia tracks back with you on the Moeger Radio
Show on Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. It is three thirty one.
As I said at the top of the hour, it
is a busy afternoon for us here at ESPN fifteen thirty.
A lot of Bengals news to cover, both on the
stadium front and what the Bengals are doing to try

(23:44):
and move forward with a deal with Trey hendrickson TBD.
We'll see if that happens. I know he's been working
out at Black Sheep in Kenwood, and that's a good sign.
Usually players don't work out there unless they are really
serious about getting ready and staying prepared to play some
football this summer and obviously this season. So perhaps that

(24:07):
is a good sign. Maybe I'm reading too much into it,
maybe I'm not coming up. In a couple of minutes,
I'll be talking with Rick Walls of the Cincinnati Reds
Hall of Fame and Museum. It is a massive weekend
and I have been looking forward to this weekend all
year long because I grew up in this town. I
was a little kid when the Big Red Machine was

(24:29):
rolling through Major League Baseball. The seventy five and seventy
six teams are being celebrated this weekend at the Hall
of Fame and Museum with player appearances this weekend series
against the San Diego Padres. There's events scheduled for Friday, Saturday,
and Sunday, with Saturday Night Big Red Machine Night presented

(24:50):
by PNC a great American ballpark, lots of activities there.
Certainly there will be a lot of autograph seekers looking
for that chain to get that perhaps that missing autograph
from their collection. So we'll talk with Rick Walls of
the Reds Hall of Fame and Museum. Then we'll talk
with Gordon Wittmeyer of the Cincinnati Inquirer. We'll keep it

(25:12):
pretty much specifically to the Reds on the field, but
he's done a lot of work this year documenting the
fiftieth anniversary of the nineteen seventy five ball club. Then
we'll talk with Dan Munk of WCPO again talking about
the stadium details from the news side and maybe more
from the county commissioner side, to see what was the inspiration,

(25:34):
What was the motivation to get that deal done? That
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It is three thirty nine on a Thursday afternoon day
off for the Cincinnati Reds, in between a successful series
against the New York Yankees, taking two out of three

(26:40):
from the Bombers and playing the San Diego Padres this weekend,
which they hope to take another two out of three,
maybe sweep the entire series and have a really impressive
home stand. But on this day off, maybe a day
off for the players, but certainly not for the Reds
Hall of Fame and Museum. It is a very special weekend,

(27:03):
and a weekend very personally that I've been looking forward
to all year long. I grew up in Kenwood, grew
up here in the great city of Cincinnati, and grew
up with the Big Red Machine. I remember Game four
of the nineteen seventy five World Series. My dad came
home from Procter and Gamble and he had two tickets
to the game four that night, and my eyes were

(27:25):
wide wide open, and I went, and of course, Louis
Tiant and the Red Sox broke my heart five to four.
A series was tied to two, but as Pete Rose
was fond of saying, we all know who won Game
number seven. But anyway, it is my sincere pleasure to
talk about all the festivities this weekend, starting tonight, to
honor the Big Red Machine on the fiftieth anniversary Reunion

(27:48):
celebration weekend is Rick Walls Hall of Fame, Executive Director
for the Reds Hall of Fame and Museum. Rick, thanks
so much for taking some time on what is I know,
a very busy day for you. How are you?

Speaker 5 (28:00):
I'm doing great. It's it's a pleasure to do what
we do. You know, when it's your mission is to
celebrate greatness, preserve the history, and provide inspiration. There isn't
a better definition of that than the Big Red Machine
and what we're able to do. It's greatness, it's history,
and it's inspiring. It really is the story behind it.
And this is that weekend that we all come together

(28:24):
on the field in the game, you know, before the game,
with pregame ceremonies, special events and activities in the museum,
meet and greets. There's just so much going on that
gives us a chance to reconnect with these players and
let them reconnect with each other.

Speaker 4 (28:37):
And it all starts tonight and evening with the Big
Red Machine presented by PNC at the Aeronoff Center for
the Arts. How did this idea come together? I know,
Marty Brenham in the Hall of Fame broadcaster is the
MC tonight and what strikes me about the release from
from you folks and the Reds. It says you will

(28:58):
hear never before told stories, candid reflections and heartfelt tributes
from the players who brought World Series glory to Cincinnati.
To me, you know, there's a price of admission for it,
but to me, those stories are priceless.

Speaker 5 (29:14):
I agree totally, and I think we're going to hear
those those heart felt messages tonight. This idea was something
that we came up with. It would be a little
bit different than a sit down dinner. We do an
induction gala every other year. Next year will be our induction.
We wanted to focus this year solely on the fiftieth
anniversary and celebrate the back to back World championship, So

(29:35):
this is the celebration even for the seventy sixteen, which
fifty years would be next year. But we wanted to
do something different, and the thought of the stage show
a great opportunity for reception. It's a wonderful facility there
at the Air and Off. We're in the Jarson Captain Theater.
Seats only about four hundred and that's how many we'll
have there. And it's a red carpet opportunity if if

(29:57):
fans are downtown they want to go down to see
the players, you know, make their way in wearing these
special big Red Machine jersey. They're welcome to come by
the Red carpet. The players will be walking the carpet
at around five thirty six o'clock and you know, that's
a great window to see them, to get up close
to them, and they're going to be inside and the
theater presentation with Marty, the Hall of Famers, the host,

(30:18):
and the Q and A and the video highlights and
a couple of surprises and some tribute videos. It will
be emotional because we're missing a couple of these Big
Red Machine players and the ones that jump out of you,
or Pete Rose and Don Gull both who passed away
just within the last year, and of course Joe Morgan
years before correct.

Speaker 4 (30:37):
And I was going to ask you, if somebody is
listening to this right now, our tickets still available if they,
let's say, are in the area downtown and want to
take in this. Essentially, if you're a baseball fan in Cincinnati,
this is a once in a lifetime opportunity. And I'm
not just trying to sell it. I'm just saying it
is what it is. You don't get too many more
chances to see a group like this for what they

(31:01):
meant to the city of Cincinnati. I always tell people
on the outside the Reds were a great baseball team,
but what they meant to the city was much much
more than that.

Speaker 5 (31:10):
Yeah, I hate to say that it sold out, so
there's any more room. I wish I could do that.
The seats that are on there's a few on hold
for the families. We've had a great influx of interest
in the last two weeks, especially the last week, as
the players are bringing families into town and are taking
up the tickets. So we wanted an intimate setting. We

(31:31):
wanted it to be limited. This is the kind of
the family sponsor fundraiser that allowed us to bring twenty
three players into town, fly them in, put them up
for four days, give them all the hospitality that they deserve,
because we believe that this team, you know, really made
baseball the capital and in Cincinnati the capital of baseball

(31:54):
for so long and still to this day, we measure
everybody by the Big Red Machine and not fair because
that team was will never be repeated again. You just
can't assemble that again in today's game, and I argue
they're the best teams in Red history, maybe even in
baseball history. But we have the fan opportunities at the
museum where the meet and greets on Friday and Saturday,

(32:17):
as well as on Sunday and then pregame ceremony on
Saturday where they'll all be seated on the field, great
video tributes, Johnny Bench at the Microphone Malty hosting that
twenty minute pregame ceremony, And even if you're the game
on Friday, because it just build a Big Red Machine weekend,
you'll see them in a special parade around the Warning
Track prior to the game. So a lot of ways

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to engage with the Big Red Machine.

Speaker 4 (32:40):
Speaking with Rick Walls, executive director of the Reds Hall
of Fame and Museum, Rick, what was it like trying
to get all of the living members of the Big
Red Machine together for one event, because I've you know,
I worked in Boston for many, many years and they
did a lot of these kind of events for the
Red Sox over the years, and they always used to

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tell me the logistics for planning this type of event
sometimes takes several months up to a couple of years
that can take in terms of tracking everybody down and
getting them all in the same page. And then you know,
as you just mentioned, bringing not only them but their
families together. What kind of process is it for you

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to undertake.

Speaker 5 (33:24):
I can tell you that it's a labor of love,
but it's you know, it is a task. It's something
that we love to do. And we started last year
planning this with the new exhibit that opened around opening day.
But Johnny Bench was instrumental in helping rally the troops,
so to speak, and get them all to come here
with us. We wrote a letter from him with him
with Tony Perez on it as well. We made this

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about the team, not about just the starting eight. It
was a chance to kind of recognize the pictures, the
closer the relief pictures, even the position players through the reserves,
and say this was about a machine, about an entire team,
not just the eight. So that came together pretty quickly.
We described them what the series events would look like
and got wonderful responses. And I think it has a

(34:09):
lot to do with time and the longer your way,
you know, you want to be part of something special
and that team was special, and some of these players
have not been together before. I mean, this is the
largest gathering of this entire group ever. There's twenty three
players in town of twenty six possible, so there's three
players that are living that were unable to make it,

(34:29):
and that is going to be this time. Davy Concepts,
Gary Nolan, and Joe Henderson, and those are health reasons.
But other than that, you know, you've got just about everybody.
And that's a tribute to the players I mentioned and
just their togetherness and what this means to them to
come back together again.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
I can tell you. And having worked, as I said,
in Boston and understanding how they take baseball tradition there,
and obviously they take it very, very seriously, there is
nothing like your exis at the Hall of Fame. The
Hall of Fame, the Reds Hall of Fame is unlike
any baseball exhibit in the sport. And I put it

(35:07):
right up there with Cooperstown in terms of the way
you actually are, you know, held accountable and responsible for
really continuing the greatness of the Reds legacy. And I
you know, I cannot speak highly enough for the job
not only you, but your staff does with the Hall
of Fame Museum. It's truly remarkable work.

Speaker 5 (35:29):
Boy, I really appreciate that, and that is what we're
here for, is that in twenty thirty fifty years from now,
we'll have a great archive collection. The history will live
on and fans can learn about even today's team in
thirty forty fifty years. And you can just imagine what
a role of a museum does. And we are a
full fledged museum with all kinds of ways to you know,

(35:49):
to support us. We have the largest team Hall of
Fame in baseball, sixteen thousand square feet and you've been
through it and appreciate the comments about the big Red
Machine exhibit, but it's an ever evolving museum that brings
that artifacts and the stories to life. So every year
about one hundred thousand people come through the museum. It's
a mecca for schools to bring field trips to. And

(36:13):
of course the Hall of Fame is involved in so
many other activities that helped the ballpark and the Reds
team because we were hand in hand with the Reds,
but to support what they do and for them, they
support highly what we do and it's very event like
today the players were in the Museum, many of them
for the first time. Just in awe. I got to
sit down and interview many of the players on camera,

(36:36):
and this is where I know you love this mic.
And I sat down with with Griffy and Bench and
Perez and Geronimo and just picked their brain about that
seventy five World Series and talked about the Ethis pitch
to Tony Hit, talked about the ed Armbrister play at
the bunt, and then the possible interference that wasn't called Foster.

Speaker 10 (36:57):
You got it.

Speaker 5 (36:58):
I'm just telling you it was, It says. It's so
fun to get them to talk about it and relive it.
You can just see it light up. Yeah, we had
the confidence. We knew we were going to win Game
seven in that seventy five series. If you really want
to kind of fall in love with that team in
that series. The Boston team was a great team as well.
But to watch that game by game and look at

(37:18):
how it transpired and you said you were Game four,
it's amazing. And it really put baseball on the map
at a time when football was really kind of king,
and this brought the World Series back to prominence.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
It did indeed, again Rick Walls executive director of the
Reds Hall of Fame and Museum. The other event besides
Tonight's Evening with the Big Red Machine presented by PNC
at the Aeronoff Center for the Arts. The other big event,
Big Red Machine Night, presented by PNC. That's Saturday night.
Certainly it's going to be a festive occasion. The first

(37:51):
pitch is four to ten pm against the Padres, but
everything starts at eleven am. A Big Red Machine player
and meet and greet at the Red Hall of Fame
and Museum. There'll be many other activities that day. Rick,
on a very very busy day, on a very very
busy weekend for you, I really appreciate you taking time out.

Speaker 5 (38:11):
No, I really appreciate you promoting us. This is big
for the museum and the fans. The meet and greets
are free with museum admission. So if you're down here
on Saturday or Friday, just go to Redsmuseum dot org
for the entire schedule and you don't want to miss
out all.

Speaker 4 (38:27):
Right, Rick, look forward to seeing you soon down at
the ballpark. Rick Walls, Executive director of the Reds Hall
of Fame and Museum. My name is Mike Petralia trags
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(39:54):
It's a big day here in Cincinnati, the Bengals and
Hamilton County announcing agreement on an eleven year new lease
for pay Corps Stadium. A big question mark on the
Bengals future has just been removed, and that is cause
to celebrate for any Bengal fan, I think for anybody

(40:16):
in Hamilton County, anybody associated officially with the city of Cincinnati.
It is a big, big moment. Also tonight and this weekend,
we just had a terrific interview with Rick Walls, executive
director of the Reds Hall of Fame and Museum. It
is the Big Red Machine fiftieth Anniversary Reunion celebration presented

(40:37):
by PNCAE. So many activities going on tonight. Marty Brenneman,
for sure, will be in rare form as he hosts
an intimate and entertaining experience with Big Red Machine players.
It's at the Aeronoff Center for the Arts. Saturday night
is Big Red Machine Night, in the middle game of
the three game series with the San Diego Padres here

(40:58):
to talk more about the Reds not only off the field,
but what they were able to accomplish against those New
York Yankees. Is my good friend colleague on the Reds beat,
Gordon Wittmeyer, the Cincinnati Inquirer in Cincinnati dot Com. Gordo,
how are you doing on this Thursday afternoon?

Speaker 11 (41:18):
Doing great?

Speaker 5 (41:18):
Traggs.

Speaker 11 (41:19):
How are you doing looking forward to tonight?

Speaker 4 (41:22):
Yeah? I would love to be down there. I am
going to be otherwise occupied behind a microphone here in
the Kenwood studios, so unfortunately I will not be able
to make it duty calls, but I will definitely be
there in spirit. We've had many conversations like this, Gordon
at Great American Ballpark. You know, I grew up in

(41:43):
this town. You know, the Reds were a big reason
why I got into the business. I got in, and
certainly there were many of us like that who grew
up in Cincinnati. But the big Red machine is just
it had such an impact on the youth, on the adults,
on business everything in downtown Cincinnati when the city of

(42:04):
Cincinnati really took off in the seventies.

Speaker 5 (42:08):
Oh, I think so.

Speaker 11 (42:09):
And not only that, I think it had in fact
nation wide.

Speaker 12 (42:13):
Uh.

Speaker 11 (42:14):
You talked about the impact that had on you growing
up here. I didn't grow up anywhere near here. I
grew up in the Pacific Northwest, but I grew up
in that time. And you know, I was a kid
ten years old pulling pulling these cards at a at
a baseball card packs of these guys, these magical names,
and it was part of my initiation into the game,
into loving baseball. The just the aura around that team

(42:38):
and names like Pete Rose and Johnny Bench, Joe.

Speaker 5 (42:40):
Morgan, Tony Perez.

Speaker 11 (42:42):
Uh, they really resonated in sports and baseball, really in
popular culture really across the country. I mean the way
Willis and Mickey Mantle, Joe Namath, those kind of names did.

Speaker 13 (42:56):
Uh.

Speaker 11 (42:57):
That's what I think is the is the sort of
secret to the lastiest power of that club.

Speaker 4 (43:05):
You had a chance, obviously, to talk with Pete Rose
before he passed last October, and when he spoke of
the Big Red Machine. What were the biggest takeaways you
took from him?

Speaker 11 (43:19):
Just Actually, it's really similar to what some of the
other guys were saying, just especially as time went by
they recognized kind.

Speaker 5 (43:28):
Of how special that was.

Speaker 11 (43:29):
But when I talked to Pete, I sat down with
him at a place in his condo building.

Speaker 5 (43:37):
And in Las Vegas.

Speaker 11 (43:40):
And as we sat there and talked, we talked for
a couple hours. You know, not a lot of people
came through there, but at one point somebody came through
and immediately recognized him and just took a moment to say,
as God is my witness, Pete Rose, can I shake
your hand? This is twenty twenty four, right, he's in
his eighty It's fifty years after those teams.

Speaker 5 (44:03):
And they all say that about that, and they also
they also all talked about the.

Speaker 11 (44:13):
Difference in that clubhouse compared to some of the other
clubhouses at the time. If you remember, this is just
before free agency. So you had a lot of teams
that had cores that have been together for a long time,
players that have been associated with their teams for decades,
a decade or more. And so you had the core
in Pittsburgh and Philadelphia, and certainly in Los Angeles and Cincinnati, Oakland.

(44:37):
One of the differences they claimed they had in their
clubhouse and that others who were around it said they
had a different level of chemistry and camaraderie, maybe even professionalism.
You heard about Fish Flights and some other clubhouses I mean,
pedro Borbone supposedly had a one punch thing at some point,

(44:57):
but by and large those guys not only they police
their clubhouse well, but really had a bond. I mean,
and you can see it anybody who's going to be
there at this thing tonight, the surviving members of that team,
you'll see the bond. Johnny talked about it, Tony talked
about it, Pete talked about it last year. They some

(45:18):
of them were generally really close friends that stayed together
as close friends for a long time, And Johnny and Pete,
Pete and Joe were tight all that time during those years.

Speaker 4 (45:33):
You've done a lot of work, obviously on this ball club,
what it's meant for baseball, as you just talked about,
you know, not just in Cincinnati, but around the sport.
And I'm just curious how much fun it's been for
you to go back fifty years and look at how
much has changed and what that team meant to the

(45:56):
sport of baseball going forward.

Speaker 5 (46:01):
Yeah, I've.

Speaker 11 (46:03):
I think I'm getting dropped off at the wrong place here.

Speaker 4 (46:06):
Oh that's all right, if you need to go, we
can call you back.

Speaker 11 (46:13):
Oh wait, Mane, it looks like we're correcting here that
place in baseball history, that team in baseball history, I
think it stands alone in the sense that you can
argue that whether that was the greatest lineup of all
time or not, you know, it compares to the Murderers
Row the career War of the big Regischine lineup was
higher than the day Ruth Garrick Murderers. Rowe to take

(46:36):
that for whatever it's worth. Twenty seven Yankees, seventy five Reds.
It was almost identical in war for those years. And
then you can bring in any other team want. Maybe
they were the best, maybe they weren't. They certainly captured
the imagination of baseball at the time. And again we
talked about these teams that had corps, these dynasties in

(46:59):
their own cities in that time, and this was the
biggest one in terms of a lineup, for sure.

Speaker 5 (47:06):
It was.

Speaker 11 (47:07):
It was the prominent one. And I think when you
start looking at at baseball history because it was just
pre free agency, because it was such a complete, a
complete lineup and so dynamic could beach in so many ways,
because it was the best of the best at a
time when we had the last.

Speaker 5 (47:25):
Group of real a collection.

Speaker 11 (47:27):
Of sort of dynasties around baseball college.

Speaker 5 (47:31):
You know, the Powers. There were half a dozen.

Speaker 11 (47:35):
Powers at the time that were perennial contenders that will
constantly get going in and out of World Series and
penny contentions. They were the best of the best at
that time. And I do think that between that and
some of the names that became.

Speaker 5 (47:51):
Just part of our popular culture.

Speaker 11 (47:53):
And rose above it transcended the game itself. I do
think that that gave it a special place in sports history,
of baseball history.

Speaker 4 (48:03):
Speaking with Gordon Wittenmeyer of the Cincinnati Enquirer and Cincinnati
dot Com does a great job covering all things Cincinnati
baseball now and in the past, and certainly in the present,
in the future going forward. The Reds have a lot
to do in the second half of the season, but
a lot of that, to me, Gordon, as we transition

(48:23):
to the twenty twenty five Reds, has to do with
the health of two players in particular, that would be
Noelve Marte and Austin Hayes. They desperately need right handed bats,
and I'm here to tell you that even if they
had those two bats last night, I don't know if
they were going to beat Max Freed. Max Freed is
a three picture in baseball right now. I think we

(48:46):
can all agree on that. I mean, he is performing
at that level. But they do need right handed pop
in that lineup. It's a glaring hole right now.

Speaker 11 (48:56):
Hell, I'd take any additional pop at this point in
that lineup, but certainly right handed would be ideal. And
Austin Hayes may be back tomorrow. They're reevaluating him as
we speak. After he played a couple of minor league
rehab games with chat Nooga. Seemed to come out of
that okay. Seem to do okay in those games performance wise,

(49:18):
which is a good sign. And Nowelbe Marte, you know, well,
I'm I would more count on Austin Hayes. I mean,
if Austin Hayes is healthy, he's performed, he's a veteran,
you got a baseline expectation out of him.

Speaker 5 (49:36):
Uh.

Speaker 11 (49:36):
I think that's the big one. Nowelbe Marte was already
a bonus. He was bravy what he provided for the team,
and that was a great sign. And he's got tons
of upside and I'd like to see him back. But
Austin Hayes, I think is the big one, and we're
going to see him maybe on Friday as they open
up that series gets Odris.

Speaker 4 (49:56):
Uh what do the Reds have to do to help
correct Ellie Dayala Cruz throwing the ball straight? And I
hope they're not honking at you? By the way, what
are they.

Speaker 5 (50:09):
Over me?

Speaker 4 (50:10):
Oh?

Speaker 11 (50:10):
Boy?

Speaker 4 (50:12):
You are? You are going above and beyond to do
this interview? Gordon, I owe you something at the ballpark
the next time. I'll pick up your meal the next
time I see you. How's that all right?

Speaker 14 (50:23):
Afterwards?

Speaker 4 (50:23):
Yeah? And a beverage and adult beverage of your choice
after the game, after we find our way out of
the maze. That is great American ballpark. But I digress.
What do the Reds have to do? Or? As Terry
Francona said, I think before last night's game, Uh, sometimes
he has a long lever, and sometimes that lever is
not in the right slot. And is it is his

(50:46):
poor throwing? Just a matter of that Right now?

Speaker 11 (50:50):
I think people aren't gonna like to hear this. Best
way to fix in the shortstop has been moving center
field or someone right field. I mean ultimately, ultimately, uh,
that may be what winds up happening for for all
kinds of reasons. Look, the guy makes spectacular plays, is
incredibly athletic. That's why he had really good metrics at

(51:14):
shortstop last year, even if he had a lot of errors.
This year, the metrics aren't even good. And I and
I suspect why is that they've backed him off.

Speaker 5 (51:24):
And rightfully so.

Speaker 11 (51:27):
The near misses, the near the near near collisions, you know,
with his outfielders, because he's got him with rains and
so he's backing off some of those plays where last
year he would have got credit for running eight miles
to make a catch in left field or down the
left field line. And so, uh so, I think we're
getting a truer picture of what we're seeing this year.

(51:49):
It's not it's not to rip on him, but you've
got to have a guy making the routine plays more
often as to win, to win, to win can especially
in a position like shortstop. And so ultimately that's going
to be the solution for that position for him. And
they've got some really good shortstops coming in the system.

(52:10):
And when a Royal is gold Glove caliber and so
you know, at some point when somebody else is ready,
you might see that in the meantime, you love what
you get from him. Offensively. The guy works his ass off,
he plays every day, and so you work with what
you have there and you and you try to get
the most out of it and fix on a day

(52:32):
to day basis what needs to be fixed.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (52:35):
I'll wrap up with this speaking with Gordon Whitmeyer the
Cincinnati Inquirer. I love the fact that you actually had
the audacity to use the word temerity and a lead
of your story on Jose Travino in today's Cincinnati.

Speaker 15 (52:50):
You just used.

Speaker 4 (52:52):
The sense, did Jose Travino? This is the writing of
Gordon Whitmeyer today in the Cincinnati Inquirer Cincinnati dot Com.
Did Jose Travino actually have the temerity to call umpire
Mark Wegner's attention to Jazz Chisholm Junior still yapping as
he took the field in the bottom of the ninth

(53:14):
after striking out in the top half. And this is,
of course, referring to the Tuesday Night five four thrilling
extra ending win over the Bombers. And you're right, of
course he did. Uh. So what did you make of
the whole? Aaron Boone, Jazz Chisholm Jose Trevino two chapter
story that took place Tuesday and Wednesday night.

Speaker 5 (53:38):
Uh.

Speaker 11 (53:39):
Well, I thought Travino had a turn of fun with it.
He got he got under the skin of his old teammate,
and I think he reveled in it.

Speaker 5 (53:49):
Uh.

Speaker 11 (53:49):
Aaron Boone, I thought was playing damage control, maybe maybe
even with the league at that point, with you know,
trying to trying to for his player, and suggests that
they were mitigating circumstances.

Speaker 5 (54:04):
That he maybe should have been.

Speaker 11 (54:05):
Uh, maybe he wasn't doing everything that would suggested he
was doing and that he shouldn't have been topped. I
get where they're coming from. At the end of the day,
jes chill them on every everything he got. He earned
the strikeout, and he earned the injection and uh and
he and he earned all the all the attention that
he got afterwards. Which what's hilarious to me is that

(54:28):
this stig is a three day story that's.

Speaker 14 (54:30):
Unbelievable, right and and for any and only in New York.

Speaker 4 (54:35):
Correct, well maybe Philadelphia, but in New York especially, a
story like this is going to have legs because the
writers have to have something to write about, and I
think sometimes they feed on adrenaline, right, Gordon. I think
that's what it's about in New York, and there's so
many of them looking for something different, and I think

(54:57):
that's how this comes to pass. But anybody who missed it,
obviously Jazz Chisholm struck out in the ninth inning. He
was upset about it. There was a two ozh pitch
that was out of the strike zone, but it was
called a strike by Mark Wegner. He eventually strikes out, swinging.
He's upset. He comes back to the dugout. I remember
saying at the time, Gordon, he is going to get

(55:19):
ejected out of this game somehow, some way, he's going
to get tossed. Well, sure enough, he takes the field
and is still yapping like you said at third base,
and it was Travino. I think, who you know if
you hear Aaron Boone tell it brought the attention to
Mark Wegner. Hey, he wants to say something to you.
The two make eye contact. Wegner tosses him, and it

(55:42):
was Aaron Boone saying the audacity I'll use that word
again of the Reds capture to point out to the
home play umpire to look at my player to eject
my player. I just I thought it was a humorous
anecdote to the whole series. I actually, in all seriousness,
I like what the red show to those three games.
They won the game with true grit on Tuesday Night,

(56:05):
And I wrote this yesterday for sealing ssinc dot com.
Their tank, Tito's tank on the roster was just about
it empty. You had two outfielders dinged up, one coming
off handmouth and foot, and that would be Connor Joe.
You had Jake Frayley with a bad shoulder, he was unavailable.
Tito went through all of his bullpen essentially except I

(56:27):
think Taylor Rodgers, and they still found a way to
win that game Tuesday night. Tuesday Night, to me was
one of their best wins of the year.

Speaker 11 (56:37):
Yeah, and Tuesday night was the night they had Chase
Burns on the mound, so it was also one of
their most significant games of the one of the most
significant games just for that fact alone. And what the
rookie did. I struck out the first five games the
guys fased in the big leagues and he's facing Aaron
Judges Yankees.

Speaker 5 (56:56):
That's crazy.

Speaker 11 (56:58):
And they wind up winning the game, and they wind
up winning it in eleven innings when they went to
the eleventh innings. This is my favorite stat of the year.
They had played ten extra innings. The actual number of
innings he had played an extra inning games was ten.
And you get a free runner at second base to
start every one of those innings. They had scored once

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in those ten.

Speaker 4 (57:21):
That's incredible.

Speaker 11 (57:22):
Going in going into the bottom of the eleventh on
Tuesday night and they and they gave up a run,
so they needed a run just to keep the game going,
and they got two.

Speaker 15 (57:31):
To walk it off.

Speaker 5 (57:32):
That's pretty big.

Speaker 11 (57:33):
And you said they sure were due, but that's pretty big.

Speaker 4 (57:38):
Ellie almost had one of the biggest base running blunders
you will ever see. But he apologized to Tito. Tito
had a conversation, it will never happen again, Dad, I
promise it won't happen again. That's kind of the feel
you had from Terry Francona. I know you got a run,
got a busy afternoon ahead of you. Gordon. Thank you
for dodging the cars, Thank you for making sure you

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got to the place you were supposed to be in
your vehicle. I very very much appreciate it, and we
will talk to you very soon either at Great American
ballparker somewhere down the road.

Speaker 11 (58:13):
Thank you very much, Gordon, you got it anytime.

Speaker 4 (58:16):
N all right. He's Gordon Wittenmeyer. Does a fabulous job
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Four days before the deadline, the eleven year lease struck
today between Hamilton County and the Cincinnati Bengals. The Bengals
are staying put in Cincinnati at pay Corpse Stadium, a
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at Jungle War Pod. Speaking of the boys in stripes,
it is a momentous day, and I do not think
that is hyperbole. I think it is a very momentous day.

(01:03:57):
Is Hamilton County and the Bengals are to a new
eleven year lease four days before the deadline between the
two sides to come to an agreement either on kicking
the can down the road two years or doing what
they did today, striking a new lease. Deeal. They indeed
struck a new lease, deeal, And here to talk about

(01:04:20):
the details, break it all down, and maybe give more
of a political perspective on this. From the Hamilton County
Commissioner's side is Dan Monk. He worked on this story
for WCPO dot com. Dan Monk along with Paula Christian
and Felicia Jordan. They did a terrific job breaking it
all down on the website. Dan, I know you're very

(01:04:42):
busy on this day, a very very busy day in
Cincinnati Bengals history. How are you this afternoon? I'm great, you,
I'm doing well. I guess the first question I'll ask,
and I've asked a few people this already, did you
think this would get done four days before the deadline?

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
Well, I do have to correct you on something. The
deal is not done leaf. No, what the county agreed
to today was a term sheet of fifteen different economic
terms that both the team and the county agree will
be in the final deal when it's negotiated. But there

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are a couple of steps removed from finalizing a lease.
And as a matter of fact, what they did was
today they agreed that they will agree on a lease
and that allows them to get past this June thirty deadline,
where the Bengals had the ability to automatically extend their lease,
their existing lease for two years. The county didn't want

(01:05:47):
to do that because they want a new lease. They
don't want the old least they think that one was
not good enough. And so now this gets past this
June thirty deadline and it sets upon, you know, some
some terms that they both agree to and that they're
willing to put into a lease. But they've got a
way to go before they have a final document.

Speaker 4 (01:06:10):
So that's a bit of a buzzkill, I must say,
and that's why I have you on, Dan. I appreciate
it very much for clarifying that situation. It's a buzzkill
because the Bengals put out a release and I understand
the language in their press release is very specific. It
says the Bengals and Hamilton County have agreed to principal

(01:06:31):
terms for a new lease that keeps the team in
Cincinnati playing home games at pay Corps through June twenty
thirty six. I mean, all of that is accurate, But
there's nothing you don't think that could happen between now
and the time this gets voted on and finalized that
that would be a hiccup that would that would destroy this.

Speaker 13 (01:06:51):
Do you you know it's it's not easy to put
a lease together because you know, every word matters, and
so you know, it's a possibility that they'll run into
some hiccups.

Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
Along the way. But I think the Bengals and the
county both have been saying for months that they want
the Bengals to stay in Cincinnati long term and they
want to have a deal that accomplishes that. So no,
I mean, I think it's possible that there will be

(01:07:26):
problems between now and a final lease, but I think
I think they're likely to get a lease sometime in
the next let's say, a few months, maybe several months.

Speaker 4 (01:07:39):
So one part of your story that stands out, and
I think a lot of fans will hone in on
this given the temperament and the details of what happened
the first time these two sides got together and had
a lease of long term lease agreement on then Paul
Brown Stadium. Is this The Bengals have agreed to pay

(01:08:01):
twenty five percent of needed stadium renovations, while the county
will be left to cover seventy five percent of the cost.
The County said this is down from an eighty eight
twelve percent split on maintenance costs in the previous lease.
So in other words, the Bengals are doubling their obligation.

(01:08:21):
Am I reading that correctly?

Speaker 3 (01:08:24):
Yeah, the Bengals paid about ten percent of the total
construction cost of Paul Brown Stadium back in the late nineties,
and now they're going to pay twenty five percent of
the renovation cost of pay Course Stadium. They're also paying rent.
They're paying more rent than they did in the first lease.

(01:08:46):
In the first lease, I think they paid like eleven
million dollars in rent, and then at the end of
the lease they were able to offset some of their expenses,
which you know, at the time at the deal was
struck that was seen as kind of like a rent
rebate at the end of the lease, so effectively the
Bengals paid no rent in that first lease, although they

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did pay eleven million in the first nine years. Now
they're agreeing to pay a million a year for the
first three years, and then two million plus an inflation
adjustment for the next eight years, and if they renew
the lease, they'll continue to pay rent. So it's a
better deal for the taxpayers and the one truck.

Speaker 4 (01:09:33):
In the late nineties, the county, as you also right,
also said, this is less public contribution when compared to
Baltimore and Charlotte's recent deals. If you're a county commissioner,
you want the ability to go to your constituents and
to your base and say we tried to get a

(01:09:54):
much better deal for you. And obviously, I think with
this deal they can say that and get a deal done.
They want the Bengals to stay, they want the banks
to thrive, they want the banks to grow, and all
of that, but they also want the ability to go
to their constituents and say we fought for you, right,

(01:10:16):
I mean, am I getting that accurate?

Speaker 10 (01:10:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
I mean, they do have some deal terms that are
better than Baltimore. You know, Baltemore's stadium is owned by
a stadium authority and they paid the entire cost of
their renovation.

Speaker 4 (01:10:33):
This time.

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
However, the Ravens pay a lot more and towards the
operating costs of that stadium than the Bengals are. The
Bengals pay no operating costs under this agreement. They do
pay rent, but they don't pay operating costs under this
Under the deal terms they outline today, you know, all

(01:10:55):
these deals have multiple terms and it's really hard to
cherry pick one item and say is better than that deal.
But like for example, they also cited the Carolina Panthers deal,
and you know, the Panthers have a thirty year lease term.
This deal is eleven years, with the option of extending

(01:11:15):
it to twenty one years in two year increments. So
you know, did the Panthers get a better deal than
the than the and the Bengals. They did commit to
a longer term lease, so you know, maybe the public did.

Speaker 6 (01:11:30):
Okay, there, I'll.

Speaker 4 (01:11:32):
Ask you one more question. Speaking with Dan Monk of
Channel nine here in Cincinnati has a terrific story along
with Paula Christiansen Christian and Felicia Jordan up on WCPO
dot com, and this aspect has gotten a lot of
attention throughout the state of Ohio. On Wednesday, Ohio state
lawmakers finalized the details of the new funding plan for stadiums.

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If that plan is signed into law and survived a
threatened lawsuit over its constitutionality, the Cleveland Browns will get
six hundred million dollars and the Bengals can compete with
other teams for an additional four hundred million in state funds.
There are there are so many tentacles to that one paragraph,

(01:12:18):
because what it sounds like to me is the Browns
are going to get their money right for the stadium
that has been planned for the new stadium. The Bengals
are going to have to compete and outbid whoever else
for those state funds if the money doesn't get thrown

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out by a constitutional challenge. Am I getting that right?

Speaker 8 (01:12:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
That's all right. You know. The the the Bengals went
to the state and asked for three hundred and fifty
million dollars earlier this year and they were told come
back when you have a final deal. So I think
part of what's going on here today is they're trying
to get a deal in place so they can go
back to the state with a persuasive argument that that

(01:13:08):
they they can get additional funding. What Commissioner Dreehouse said
today was that if they do get additional state funding,
they're going to increase the scope of this project, so
it won't be a four hundred and seventy million dollar renovation.
It'll be closer to that eight and thirty million dollar renovation,
which is what both the team and the county want

(01:13:30):
to do. So, but that's going to be a political process,
and it's really difficult to say at this point whether
the Bengals will get money from that, you know, part
of funding, or whether they'll get money from the state
capital budget. There's a lot of ways that they could
get money from from the state using various you know,

(01:13:52):
political leavers. So you know, I'm not sure if they're
going to get the un funds money. Money that is
likely to be in the in the final version of
the budget when it's approved on June thirty, So I
don't know. Does that answer your question?

Speaker 4 (01:14:12):
It does, and it's what I really appreciate you doing,
Dan is clarifying a lot of this story at the
beginning and getting into some of the details that are
critical to this story, because you know, we can gloss
it over and say it's a great day for the Bengals,
but there's still work to be done. And as they say,
the devil is in the details, and that is certainly

(01:14:34):
the case with this stadium least situation between Hamilton County
and the Cincinnati Bengals. Great stuff up on WCPO dot com. Dan,
on a very busy day for you. Thank you for
taking a few minutes and explaining it to me and
our listeners and Bengal fans out there.

Speaker 3 (01:14:53):
My pleasure.

Speaker 4 (01:14:53):
Have a good day you as well.

Speaker 16 (01:14:55):
Dan.

Speaker 4 (01:14:55):
He is Dan Monk of WCPO dot com here in Cincinnati.
It story clarifying what got done today between Hamilton County
and the Cincinnati Bengals. There is still work to be
done on an eleven year lease, but the terms were
agreed to today. We do have two callers, but we're
gonna have to wait until the other side of the

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top of the hour to get to you. We see
Dick and Dayton and we also see Jeff out there
as well. If you can hold the lines, we'll get
to you after the top of the hour. Up next
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That would be five to one three seven four nine,

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fifteen thirty five one three seven four nine fifteen thirty.
What do you think of the terms? Not the agreement,
not the sign lease that has not happened yet, but
the terms that the Bengals in Hamilton County were able
to agree to today. Is it a great thing? Is
it a monumentous day, monumental day for the city of

(01:17:25):
Cincinnati and the Bengals. What are your thoughts? Five to
one three seven four nine, fifteen thirty. We have a
couple of callers out there who have thoughts on this. Well.
First of all, go to Jeff in Del High. Jeff,
how are you on this still hot and humid summer
afternoon in Cincinnati?

Speaker 6 (01:17:45):
Oh man, it is definitely hot. Is it ever going
to cool off?

Speaker 14 (01:17:48):
Tribes?

Speaker 5 (01:17:48):
Like I know, it kept raining and raining and rating
and now it's hot.

Speaker 4 (01:17:51):
I like we're going to get a break. I think
early to middle next week.

Speaker 9 (01:17:56):
Jeff, that sounds good to me.

Speaker 15 (01:17:59):
But Bengals and this lease agreement, I look, I'm happy
it happened. I've said this to my friend's stuff. I
think the city would have been silly to let the Bengals.

Speaker 5 (01:18:11):
Leave this town.

Speaker 15 (01:18:12):
They would lose a lot of money for the city
that the Bengals generates. It would be nice if we
can't get some money from the state, like you know
the Browns are getting. But like your earlier press you
had on I'm sorry it's name is supposed for my mind,
but it's all of that.

Speaker 5 (01:18:30):
Thank thank you, thank you.

Speaker 15 (01:18:31):
We got to get a deal in place. Sounds that
they got deal in place, and I aren't go to
the state to try to get some some of this
money as well, as long as it's not good unconstitutional,
which that's to be determined if that happens or not.
But I think it's it's a good deal. The Bengal
is going to be here for the next eleven years.
I think it's a great day for the city and

(01:18:52):
the city, and the city is going to be able
to control more of the venues. I heard too, that
can actually go into like the Country the other actions,
you go into Posi Stadium, So.

Speaker 4 (01:19:03):
The county will have a more say over the actual
venue pay Corpse Stadium, and they will be able to
dictate the terms of how that stadium is used when
the Bengals are not playing in it. And that is
for the express purpose of bringing more acts, more concerts,
more festivals into the area so that they can generate

(01:19:26):
more activity for the Banks. I think it's a win win. Certainly,
Hamilton County had to go back to its constituents. The
three commissioners on the county board had to go back
to the constituents and say, we got a better deal.
Don't worry. We got a better deal than we cut
the last time we worked with the Bengals. And I

(01:19:47):
think having the split go from eighty eight twelve percent
to seventy five twenty five is a much easier pill
to swallow. It's still not great, I'm sure for some
residents of Hamilton County, but it's still better. And you
don't want to lose the franchise and you don't want
a detrimental, disastrous impact on the Banks downtown.

Speaker 15 (01:20:11):
Yeah, I mean, some fans like I'll say, my brother,
I mean, he's he would not vote for any tax
decrease or anything for the Bengals. One question I have
to ask you the tracks now, do they there were
certain parts of the banks that the Bengals did control,
parts that aren't developed yet. Did they say is this
going back to the county or how is that part working?

Speaker 4 (01:20:33):
I am going to answer I do not know, because,
as as Dan Monk articulated, this is a complicated matter,
and there are parts of the Least Agreement that will
become more illuminated as we move along in the process.
And certainly I think once the Least Deal is actually

(01:20:53):
signed and official, all of the details will come out.
And I'm sure it's a couple of hundred pages in
terms of the document that covers all all of the
circumstances and all of the hypotheticals, one of which you
just brought up. I have to go, have to get
running here, Jeff. We got one more call before we
get to Alex Frank, Jeff, stay cool out there, all right, Bud.

Speaker 15 (01:21:15):
Thanks Trag did a great job keeping up, buddy.

Speaker 4 (01:21:18):
Thanks Bud. Let's go to Dick and Dayton really quick
before we get to Alex Frank of Clnsinc. Dot com, Dick,
what is your on your mind? And thank you very
much for.

Speaker 12 (01:21:27):
Holding Oh, you're wud welcome.

Speaker 15 (01:21:29):
You know.

Speaker 12 (01:21:30):
I think, actually, Buddy, I think it's a good deal.
I really do, you know. I was worried, you know,
about the taxpayers have to pay the money on the stadium,
you know in Cincy and Cleveland. But I think Hambilton
County Buddy worked it out really well. And uh, you know,
I think a lot of Bengal fans are going to

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be happy.

Speaker 6 (01:21:51):
I really do, bub you know, well, I'll tell you, Dick.

Speaker 4 (01:21:53):
Here's one of the takeaways in talking with Dan Monk
that stuck out, really struck me and stuck out to
me is the Bengals, I think, wanted to get this
lease in place and the terms in place, so that
they could go to the state of Ohio and tell
the state lawmakers we have our lease done. It's you know,

(01:22:15):
the terms have been agreed to. We are the most
viable applicant for that additional four hundred million dollars, and
state funds are close to four hundred million dollars. Maybe
they get ninety ninety five percent of that four hundred
million dollar pie. But when you talk about the funding
that is out there, I think the Bengals wanted to

(01:22:35):
put themselves in the best political state to and I
mean what I mean by the best political position to
go in there and position themselves to apply for that
four hundred million dollars, which, as Dan Monk pointed out,
if they get that four hundred million dollars, the project
goes from being let's say, four hundred and sixty million

(01:22:58):
dollars to close to the eight hundred and thirty million
dollars for the full rebuild and renovation of Pay Corpse Stadium.
I appreciate the call, Dick, we have to move along here,
Okayye have a good one, Dick, and move on to
Alex franc of CLNS Sinc. Dot Com. We've been talking
Bengals new lease. We've been talking the Reds in their

(01:23:21):
Hall of Fame weekend, the fiftieth anniversary reunion celebration weekend
of the Big Red Machine. Now let's talk some FCC
and I'll also get your opinion, Alex toward the end
on pay Course Stadium and the Reds. But a huge
win for FCC last night in Montreal by a score
of three to one. A Vander with two goals in

(01:23:45):
that game.

Speaker 16 (01:23:47):
Well, Mike, first of all, it's great to be on
with you as always, coming to you from Saint Petersburg, Florida.
Georgious down here. It's about ninety degrees, the weather's fantastic,
the sun shining. And and to make it even better,
f Seasoncinnati with a win last night, a really good win.
You talk about just you know, taking control the game

(01:24:09):
in the forty fifth minute really early on EPs CE.
Cincinnati was aggressive in that first half. They were i
mean eleven shots on goal. That's their most since April
twenty seventh of last year. So that tells you something
right there. And then Evander, who was just named to
the All Star team, the MLS All Star Team yesterday,
and he comes down and backs it up with as
you mentioned, two goals of brace. And then Luca Oriano

(01:24:33):
he gets his first goal of the season. Really nice
play where he actually kicks it back to Evander to
get more open in the box and then Evander just
puts it right on him and he puts it in.
So to go on the road north of the border,
second straight road game, you know, just take it to
a team that really, as Tommy g said last night

(01:24:53):
on the radio broadcast, they're having a really frustrating year
CF Montreal.

Speaker 6 (01:24:58):
But you go win there, handle your business.

Speaker 16 (01:25:00):
You get three points, you're still second in the East
thirty six points. But I mean, forty eight hours or
fifty hours from Nolan, Orlando City is going to be
a very very important showdown for the Orange and Blue.

Speaker 4 (01:25:14):
And you know, I think we had looked at the
first half of this season or we're still in it,
but we're approaching the midway point. Kevin Denkey has been
so critical to the offense. To see a second scorer
in the vander really come to full force has got
to give this team a lot of confidence going forward.

Speaker 6 (01:25:36):
Well, no question about that.

Speaker 16 (01:25:38):
And Paton Newten said last night that he was very
pleased with and I'm quoting from his postgame press conference
with certainly the attacking output and the chance creation. I mean,
you talk about just setting the tone from the get go,
and it was only a matter of time before they
were going to break through and break the scoreless draw.

Speaker 6 (01:25:56):
Which they did.

Speaker 16 (01:25:57):
But if you have multiple goal scorers, that's going to
dress and opposing defense, and it's so great to see
Cincinnati on the counter. Their defense has been much better
these last two matches. I mean Montreal didn't score un
sold the ninetieth minuted last night, and by that time
it was too little, too late, so only one goal
conceding the last two matches. After a sub power home stand,

(01:26:19):
you have to really like where this team is on
June twenty sixth, and they have the opportunity to win
a to get three crucial points in Orlando Saturday night.
But no question about it, to your point, this team
has the ability to score goals.

Speaker 6 (01:26:34):
There's no question in my mind they do.

Speaker 16 (01:26:35):
They have the goal scorers on the pitch that they want,
and especially with guys like Evander and Kevin Danky as
you mentioned, who every time I watch him play, he
does something more and more impressive and he's just always
seems to be in the right place at the right time.
So really really pleased with the way they played last night.
And I mean, look the schedule coming up. You have

(01:26:58):
the opportunity to build some momentum going into you know,
the dog days of summer, the League's Cup which is
coming up in August, and then down the stretch in
the MLS regular season. This team has bounced back, this
team has you know, gotten healthier. Matt Biosca coming back defensively.
I can't tell you how important that is for this club.

(01:27:20):
They're starting to click again and if they can get
three points in Orlando, they're going to come back home
on July fit, which should be an unbelievable raucous crowd
at TQL Stadium.

Speaker 4 (01:27:31):
What do you think of FIFA's Club World Cup and
the idea of holding this in it, Well, it's clearly
going to be in the middle of MLS, and not
that FIFA is prioritizing MLS. I understand that. I understand
where MLS stands in the in the ranking of football
around the world and around the globe. But the Club

(01:27:55):
World Cup has gotten some criticism for positioning this tournament
in probably the non ideal time of year to do this,
and I don't know if there's ever really a time
to pull this off. I understand the concept. I think
it's a good one. It's like the World Cup, only
instead of Nations, you have the best teams, the best

(01:28:16):
clubs i e. The name Club World Cup. You have
the best soccer clubs around the world competing in this
and the ticket prices are very very expensive as well,
about fifty percent markup over a normal MLS or Premier Cup,
Premier League match.

Speaker 16 (01:28:38):
Well, look, with any event like the FIFA Club World Cup,
which is, you know, a relatively new event as far
as I know, and again I'm still somewhat new to
covering soccer, even though I've been doing it for you know,
several years, I'll say this, I think with any event,
there's going to be criticism in some regard. And you
can bring up a great point that there's never really

(01:28:59):
an I deal time to hold an event like this,
especially when you consider the MLS regular season runs from
late February to early December.

Speaker 6 (01:29:08):
I mean, that's a long time.

Speaker 16 (01:29:09):
When else are you going to have an event like
this January when it's snowing outside, I don't really think.

Speaker 4 (01:29:14):
Well, and certainly not with the US as the host
country of the twenty twenty five edition exactly.

Speaker 6 (01:29:20):
And that's a great point. That's another great point.

Speaker 16 (01:29:22):
So I mean, look, I think it's great that, you know,
soccer fans in America, a sport that you know, has
been rapidly growing, especially in the city like Cincinnati over
the last several years. You know, you get this big event,
which I think is a great prelude to the FIFA
World Cup next year, which is going to be incredible

(01:29:43):
having to hear in the United States plus Canada and Mexico.
So I mean, look, as I said, with any event
like this, there's going to be criticism. But here's the thing.
There's so many other events that are intertwined with the
Major League Soccer regular season. The US Open Cup where
a f C Cincinnati really rose to start them when
they went on that incredible run in twenty seventeen to

(01:30:05):
the semi finals, and then the League's Cup, which we
all remember two years ago, that classic between f C Cincinnati.

Speaker 6 (01:30:12):
In or MIAMIFC.

Speaker 16 (01:30:13):
So I mean, this is just another event that's in
that's intertwined with the MLS regular season. But I mean, look,
like I said, there's always bound to be criticism in
some form.

Speaker 6 (01:30:25):
I mean, it's just the way.

Speaker 16 (01:30:26):
Of you know, sports, the way of society unfortunately. So
that's my personal opinion on that.

Speaker 4 (01:30:35):
Yeah, I understand that, and I'm just curious to see
where soccer goes in the US after an event like
the Club World Cup. I've always thought that if a
team from MLS can win one of these premier global competitions,
it would make the biggest statement of all. That's what
I've always felt about an event like that. If it's

(01:31:00):
just the same as, can the US ever win a
World Cup? Can the US ever win a World Cup?
Can one of these American teams ever win an elite
competition among other international elite teams? To me, that is
the gold standard, Alex.

Speaker 16 (01:31:19):
It's a great point you bring up there. I mean,
especially with the US men's national team. I mean the
women's team, they've won three World Cups. They're insanely fun
to watch, and they're an insanely talented group. But when
you look at what the men's team has done, I mean,
there was a time and I remember this from twenty
ten and twenty fourteen when they you know, advanced to
the knockout round, and even just three years ago when
they had the knockout round over in Katar. They you know,

(01:31:44):
they've they've been able to get to that point. But
the problem is they run into a team like Belgium
in twenty fourteen, or they run into Netherlands or yeah,
Netherlands in twenty twenty two, and it's just that you
know they look over Mash they look like you know that,
you know they they can win, but they just don't
have the winning formula whatever it is. So I mean

(01:32:05):
that statement is still waiting to be made, and hopefully
it gets made maybe next year or you know, we'll
see when it does.

Speaker 4 (01:32:12):
All Right, you have personal news, and I want to
give you some pub here, Alex. For that personal news
you tweeted a couple of days ago, Penn has hit paper.
I'm excited and thrilled to announce that I am joining
Lockdown Bengals and the Lockdown Network as the host of
the new Bengals Squad show. My family has had Bengals

(01:32:32):
season tickets every year since the very first season in
nineteen sixty eight. You are a third generation fan. All
I can tell you, Alex is you better not start
to creep in on the Jungle Arrapods audience. That's all
I can tell you.

Speaker 5 (01:32:47):
Well.

Speaker 6 (01:32:48):
First of all, Mike, thank you.

Speaker 16 (01:32:49):
That is a very kind of you to allow me
to plug this into I'll start by saying I want
to thank Tom Lee, Sam Extro, Kylie Kylie Morrison, the
Lockdown Podcast Network for this, and Brian Levine. This incredible
opportunity Lockdown Podcast Network for those listening and those of
you who listen to Lockdown Bengals and James Repea and

(01:33:10):
Shake Lisco are simply incredible that that show has just.

Speaker 4 (01:33:15):
No, they're not They're not that good. I can't let
that slide.

Speaker 16 (01:33:18):
Sorry, Continue, That was incredible, sarcasm, unbelievable success that show
has had.

Speaker 6 (01:33:24):
And don't worry, I listened to the Jungle War as well.

Speaker 16 (01:33:26):
Mike, you do a fantastic job again.

Speaker 4 (01:33:29):
So you're using hyper bowl.

Speaker 6 (01:33:33):
Oh my, gotch I know.

Speaker 4 (01:33:36):
On a Thursday afternoon.

Speaker 16 (01:33:38):
Continue, I tell you anyway, So the Lockdown Podcast Network
is launching squad shows for each of the thirty two
NFL teams. Some shows have already started. I know the Bills,
the Eagles, which, by the way, their shows are fantastic.
I've listened to some of them. And so they called
me about three weeks ago and said we would like
you to host the Bengals squad show. So I was

(01:34:01):
just simply elated that they asked me. As you said,
I'm a third generation fan. My family's sad season tickets
since the beginning, going back to when they played in
nepfordh Stadium. So This is an incredibly meaningful opportunity for
me and what the show is going to be. It's
gonna be twice a week, it's going to be an
hour law We're gonna do postcast shows after every Bengals game,
I would imagine after every preseason game. We're in the

(01:34:24):
process or the network is of selecting the panel for
Bengals Squad. It's going to be me, a former player, coach,
or scale, which I'm really excited to see who that's
going to be, and then one or two other media members.
It may be James and Jake since they are the
hosts of Lockdown Bengals, the daily show, so really really

(01:34:45):
looking forward to interacting with them and all of you
Bengals fans out there. Hope to see you at training camp.
I'll be at the road games in Denver, Buffalo, Miami
as well as all the home games. So I tell
you the lead up to football is palpable. And with
the news today of the you know, the least and

(01:35:06):
pay Corpse Stadium, which I mean, it sounds like today
was a good day for the Bengals, the city of Cincinnati,
the banks, and I can tell you now living down there,
that is really really big news for all the establishments
and the residents and just Bengals fans in general. This
is a really good day, Mike and I. It's really

(01:35:28):
just good news. And thank you again for allowing me
to plug this personal news because I'm excited and working
with you.

Speaker 6 (01:35:35):
And James and Jake and all the media members.

Speaker 16 (01:35:38):
I'm excited to join the club and I can't wait
to get started with this new show.

Speaker 4 (01:35:43):
I know you'll do a great job, Alex. Your energy
speaks for itself. I do again want to caution people
the deal, the terms are done all right, and the
Bengals don't issue that press release that they issued today
with Katie Blackburn talking about how this is a history day,
it's a significant day for the Bengals in Hamilton County.

(01:36:04):
Unless the Bengals were pretty sure that the term sheet
that was agreed on today would eventually lead to the
lease being signed, I think it's going to get done again.
Dan Monk telling us that you know it's not done yet,
it's not official, but the terms and agreement, I'm sorry,
the terms and conditions have pretty much been agreed upon.

(01:36:28):
They just have to finalize the lease and sometimes leases
as we all know in our everyday life can be complicated.
What are you doing for the rest of this week?

Speaker 16 (01:36:38):
Well, I'm hoping that we'll hear some Kentucky players' names
call tonight at the NBA Draft Round two on ESPN Radio.
Looking forward to that. We've got e FC Cincinnati at
Orlando City Saturday night seven point thirty and a big,
big weekend for the red I was reading the details,
Mike have beat the Big Red Machine fiftieth verse three

(01:37:00):
celebration that is it just sounds incredible. And if you're
a fan of the Reds, if you're a fan of
the Big Red Machine, if you're a fan of baseball history,
get down to the ballpark this weekend, get down to downtown.
It is going to be an incredible scene. And if
the Reds, I mean, if they can win, just here's
what I say, just keep winning series this this organization.

Speaker 6 (01:37:22):
I know, last night wasn't great. It was a dud.
Let's just call it for what it is. It was
a bad night. Max Breeze it. I mean, he's a
really good picture.

Speaker 4 (01:37:28):
So but you have to use young caliber picture. I
mean he is an elite picture.

Speaker 6 (01:37:34):
Yes, no question about it.

Speaker 16 (01:37:36):
I gotta tell you that, Mike personally, I was at
the first two games against the Yankees. Those were incredible atmospheres.
I mean that was to be on the third base
side where there were Reds fans and Yankees fans around me.
On Tuesday night, it felt like a playoff game, truthfully.

Speaker 6 (01:37:52):
And if you can.

Speaker 16 (01:37:54):
Get down to the ballpark this weekend to see another
really good team come in in San Diego with Fernando Tattoos,
Junior Madnie Machado and all the guys they have, I mean,
the Reds are playing meaningful baseball in the summer, which
is something that our good friend of the show, Will
Grimmer said on Twitter. So you got to enjoy that.
And I do think this Reds team is going to
bounce back. It's gonna be a fun weekend of celebration.

(01:38:15):
So looking forward to watching it from down here in Florida,
whether at the beach or the pool. And I got
to tell you the Mike, please stay cool and stay
hydrated because it is very very hot up where you guys,
where you and Tarron are in Cincinnati and northern Kentucky.

Speaker 4 (01:38:31):
All Right, his name is Alex. Frankie does a great
job covering all things Cincinnati sports, especially FC Cincinnati. For
my company that would be Sealingssinc. Dot Com. He will
be up there, his stories will be up there. The
FC Cincinnati Orange and Blue are second in the Eastern

(01:38:52):
Conference table four points. Shy of Philadelphia, who has forty
points in first place, Cincinnati second at thirty six. Nashville
has thirty five points. Columbus Crew at thirty four in
Orlandos City. The team is Alex mentioned they'll be playing
on Saturday night on the road. They have thirty three points,
so Saturday Night, indeed, Alex is a critical game. And again,

(01:39:15):
congratulations Alex on your new podcast that will be coming up.
By the way, when does that debut.

Speaker 16 (01:39:23):
We don't actually have a sad start day, thank you
for asking. We're hoping to start at around training camp,
which the first day is July twenty third, so we're
probably targeting somewhere around there, maybe.

Speaker 6 (01:39:34):
Before, but you will definitely see it.

Speaker 16 (01:39:37):
Promoted on Twitter, my Twitter at Ricky Underscore, Naty Instagram, Facebook,
So be on the lookout because we are very excited
Lockdown Bengals Lockdown Podcast Network to get these squad shows going.
So I would say around training camp maybe A little
bit before that is when we're going to start the
Bengal Squad Show.

Speaker 4 (01:39:57):
Okay, so Bengals Squad Show on the Lockdown on Network.
His name is Alex Frank. My name is Mike Petralia.
Filling in for Moeger on the Moweger Radio Show on
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Speaker 4 (01:40:51):
I'm Merrick Shremp with Mike Petralia. Trags back with you
on the Mowager Radio Show on Cincinnati ESPN fifteen Team
thirty on June twenty sixth, twenty twenty five, at five
thirty two. We have some time to take a call
to talk. I don't know. We're gonna have to find
out when we go to Mike in La Mike, thanks

(01:41:13):
so much for calling ESPN fifteen thirty. What is on
your mind? My friend and.

Speaker 14 (01:41:20):
Mike always enjoy your programs when Moe's gone. Thanks for
taking the call.

Speaker 4 (01:41:24):
You got it. What's up?

Speaker 14 (01:41:27):
Well, we've got San Diego coming in pretty good pitching
staff right now. They're ranked about ninth, Red through ranked thirteenth.
I'm not sure who are Do you know what the starters?
The lineup for the starters are.

Speaker 4 (01:41:43):
At this point, Mike, So if you give me one second,
I do. As a matter of fact. That's why I
keep Red's game notes handy, right with me? Okay, Friday,
we have Nick Martinez four and eight, four forty five.
I actually think Nick Martinez in the rotation makes a
lot of sense. I know fans disagree with that. He
has had his ups and downs, but he can eat innings. Saturday,

(01:42:06):
it's the Ace. Andrew Abbotts seven to one, one point
seventy nine Era he's certainly in the conversation, Mike, uh
to start the All Star Game for the National League
at least at this point. But there's still a couple
of weeks to go. And then on Sunday, Nick Lodolo
five and five a three sixty three era. So that

(01:42:26):
is your rotation for the weekend series against the Padres.

Speaker 14 (01:42:31):
You know who the Pods got going. That's what I'm
worried about.

Speaker 4 (01:42:34):
TBD. We do not have that yet, and I can
certainly look that up. But uh, I think you know,
the Reds are showing Mike that if they hit, their
pitching is going to be good enough to hold them
in most games. Even last night, had they been able
to solve Max Freed earlier in that game, it was

(01:42:56):
still a three to one, four to one game. The
game was within reach. Kind of got out of hand
in the seventh and the eighth innings and and the
Yankees added on. But they can play with anybody in
Major League Baseball. A couple of years ago, you could
not say that. Even last year, there were some signs
they went into the Yankee Stadium, they swept the Yankees.
There were, you know, little dribs and drabs of hope.

(01:43:19):
Now they're beyond that point. They are Let's play the
baseball we're capable of playing, and if we do that,
we're going to be in most series and we can
win the majority of series rather than losing the majority
of series.

Speaker 14 (01:43:35):
I agree with you there, and I'm looking at you know,
the Cubs, their their team ERA is higher than the Rich. Surprisingly,
the Brewers have the best e r A. I mean
we're talking not a lot of maybe a tenth of
a run a game, or you know, two tents of
a run a game. But still it surprised me. At
Milwaukee he has the lowest team ERA right now. But

(01:43:57):
but what what bothers me? Trags like you just alluded
to teams like the Cubs and the Dodgers, who's pitching
staffs aren't really ranked tremendously high right now.

Speaker 6 (01:44:08):
But what do they do?

Speaker 14 (01:44:09):
They hit in the clutch?

Speaker 4 (01:44:11):
Yes, home run. I will say this. The Reds in
sweeping the Diamondbacks, going back, you know a couple of weeks,
in winning two out of three from the Tigers, in
winning two out of three from the Yankees, what did
they do, Mike that was different? They were able to
produce late in all of those games, especially against the

(01:44:32):
Tigers late you know, we know that game on Sunday afternoon.
They scored, you know, six times in the final two
winnings to win that game eight to four. They did
it on Sunday Sunday. They did it on Tuesday night,
scoring three times in the bottom of the seventh against
the Yankees to tie that game at three to three.

(01:44:53):
Christian and Carnassis Strand with his biggest hit this year
for the Reds. No question, I think that game tying
double that that changed the dynamic of that entire series.
They were able to come back win that game. The
point is they are showing signs that deeper this lineup
has gotten, the better they have been able to produce

(01:45:14):
late in games.

Speaker 14 (01:45:16):
I agree with you, will you verify something to a
listening because I think I think people are kidding you.
But we're the same age pretty much. I'm seventy two,
you're in that ballpark.

Speaker 4 (01:45:26):
I'm a little younger than that, well a little bit
younger than that. I won't give away my complete age
except to say about fourteen years off. But I did
grow up with the big Red machine. And if that's
where you're going with this, I don't know how you
feel about this weekend honoring the big Red Machine, but

(01:45:46):
I've been kind of looking forward to this weekend all
year long.

Speaker 14 (01:45:50):
Oh my gosh, Yes, Michael, there's no question, because you
know me and Moe and Tony and Austin. I just
didn't get to live it, unfortunately, and we did. So
that's a beautiful for us. Here's my play. Here's the
thing I want you to verify. Remember Jimmy pearsall vaguely, Yes,
I do. Yeah, he was kind of a headcase and

(01:46:10):
he played.

Speaker 4 (01:46:11):
Number thirty seven for the Boston Red Sox.

Speaker 6 (01:46:13):
Yes, continue, yes, exactly.

Speaker 14 (01:46:15):
I knew you remember that, and he ended up with
the Mets yep and his one hundredth home run that
he hit against the Phillies in nineteen June of sixty three.
When he hit that one hundredth home run, he ran
the bases backwards.

Speaker 4 (01:46:30):
I do remember that. I was not alive for that,
but I remember stories of that. We got to break here, Mike.
I'm sorry to let you go, but we're kind of
up against it. I got to get into the final
break and talk more about the Bengals lease and about
the Hall of Fame weekend. But I appreciate the call. Mike,
you will call back.

Speaker 14 (01:46:48):
I hope, yes, Sir, I will thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:46:51):
Thanks, you got it. Take care, Mike. My name is
Mike Petralia Trags. On the other side of this break,
we will wrap up this Moegger radio show for Thursday,
June twenty sixth You're listening to Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen.

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This reported again proven with the tunes on a Thursday,
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(01:48:02):
three hours bringing you all sorts of guests on Cincinnati
Bengals lease news and was a monumental day in terms
of the Bengals in Hamilton County coming to terms on
a new eleven year deal. The lease is not official,
but the terms have been agreed upon, so the terms
and conditions they are in place. It just needs to

(01:48:24):
be voted upon and the lease needs to be executed.
But that should be a matter of routine matter to
take place. But it's politics and sports, so you never
can say anything for sure. But at this point in time,
I would say it's a safe bet that the Bengals

(01:48:45):
are moving forward through twenty thirty six. At pay Corpse Stadium.
We are also talking Cincinnati Reds Hall of Fame Museum news.
Of course, the big weekend coming up this weekend, starting
tonight is the fifty the anniversary of the Big Red Machine.
The reunion celebration presented by PNC, an evening with the

(01:49:06):
Big Red Machine presented by PNC at the aeronof Center.
It's about to get underway very shortly with a red
carpet event and the event itself being hosted by our
own Marty Brenneman, the Hall of Famer. Before we wrap
it up, I want to get to one more call.
It is Tommy and Montgomery speaking of ballparks. I understand, Tommy,

(01:49:28):
you want to talk about the vendors, not at Pey Corps,
but at Great American Ballpark. How are you, Tommy, I'm
doing great.

Speaker 10 (01:49:36):
You're you're doing a great job today. I appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (01:49:39):
You bet.

Speaker 17 (01:49:42):
Also, So I attended the Red Game a couple of
times a year, maybe five or six, but I've been
noticing the last several years that there are no more
vendors coming down the stands so you can sit and
enjoy and watch the game. And if I'm an MLB
own or MLB the unions, I mean, I would think

(01:50:06):
you would want to see your patrons to be able
to watch the game as much as possible instead of running.

Speaker 10 (01:50:11):
Up the stands getting their own drinks, getting their own food,
and then coming back to watching. You're gonna miss Della Cruz,
You're gonna miss Espinall's great play a third. It's just
just recently, I don't know if, but since COVID, I don't.

Speaker 5 (01:50:25):
Know if it doesn't want to work anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:50:27):
It's exactly the only thing.

Speaker 17 (01:50:28):
The only person I the only person I ever see
coming down the stands anymore, are the people that do
just put the.

Speaker 4 (01:50:33):
Pot correct and that's it. And so I do have
an answer for you. And because Tarren Bland let me
know what you wanted to talk about, I was able
to do a little bit of research. The Reds eliminated
roving vendors from the stands in March of twenty twenty one.
It was obviously a COVID casualty. A lot of these
teams in all pro sports made similar adjustments, but especially

(01:50:57):
in baseball. Now, what the Reds discovered was your point
is a good one about, you know, fans being delivered
their drinks and concessions at their seats. But what the
Rents discovered is, without those vendors coming down the aisles,
they're not as much of a distraction. And they took

(01:51:19):
polls and they asked their season ticket holders, They asked
fans in general, what would you prefer Would you prefer
the vendors coming down and you know, constantly being a
presence every other inning, or would you rather just go
up get your food one stop shopping, be able to
pay electronically and get back to your seat and watch
the game. And the latter was the case. That's why

(01:51:39):
they were no longer vendors there, and they're trying to
avoid the congestion. Now I could answer that like you
probably would, and that is why aren't you going to
create more congestion by getting out of your seat and
having to go get it? But you know, I guess
there's some give and take there. So I'm gonna have
to let you go, Tommy, because we have to wrap
up the show. You bet you have a good one, Tommy.

(01:52:03):
We are wrapping up the show here on what has
been a very busy June twenty sixth, twenty twenty five. Again,
it was a great day for the Cincinnati Bengals. They
and the in Hamilton County. The commissioners were able to
come to an agreement on terms and conditions for a
new eleven year lease running through twenty thirty six at

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pay Corps Stadium. Won't get into the details, but essentially
it allows for at least four hundred and fifty million
dollars give or take in necessary improvements to be made
around pay Corps Stadium and certainly to extend the life
of that stadium, the home of the Cincinnati Bengals. Want

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to thank all of our guests that help us talk
about the Reds, the Bengals FCC today. It's been a
we're a win of a program, and I want to
thank Moegger for letting me fill in and of course
Tarn Bland for running the board. My name is Mike Petralia.
You've been listening to the Moegger Radio Show on Cincinnati's
ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

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five at Paddock. Our right lane taken up with the crash.

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Seventy five the southbound after Freeman getting reports of an
accident here. We do have police on the scene. Watch
for delays. I'm Rick SHRMP with traffic