12/4/25 - The Mo Egger Radio Show - Mo Egger

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This week, the Bengals are bringing their own brand of
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in below I ate fifty wings slathered in hot sauce.
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Speaker 3 (00:33):
Quote.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
Get it done, then we could worry about the rest
of the roster. I agree with that. I'll elaborate here
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We got Bengal stuff we're gonna get to throughout the
afternoon from skyline Chile Crosstown Shootout as well. Brian Anderson
is calling the game for TNT. The game is on
TNT this year and he's going to join us at
five oh five. He is awesome. He calls the baseball
package for TBS. Longtime TV guy for the Brewers, has
done the French Open, does the NCAA Tournament, does NBA

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like He's as versatile as they come, and so you're
gonna get a good play by play guy in the
call on Friday for UC and Xavier at the Cintas
Center on Friday night. The Kyle Schwarber thing is isn't
going away? And the Kyle Schwarber discourse, if you will,
among us fans I think is being few by people

(02:00):
who are covering the team writing about Kyle Schwarber. I
read another one today Charlie Goldsmith, whose newsletter is awesome,
Charlie's Chalkboard, which if you're not subscribing to it, I
don't know what you're doing. He writes about what the
Reds need to do to get Kyle Schwarber. To come
to Cincinnati. It's a good read. Go subscribe and you
can read it for yourself. I read this at ESPN

(02:22):
dot com.

Speaker 5 (02:23):
Sot.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
ESPN dot com did a all thirty teams or all
thirty teams stand ahead of the winter meetings, and they
it's a power rankings got the Reds at twenty two.
There's some mathematical stuff here. The Reds have a like
a twenty four percent chance of making the postseason according
to ESPN as currently constructed. They did resign Emilia Pegan,

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which is something we should talk about this afternoon. I'm
gonna borrow. I'm gonna borrow the last line. I just
used it to start the show, okay, because I'm not
going to give away everybody's content unless it's that dude
who wrote that weird column for The Inquirer about the shootout.
Here's what's written about the Reds last sentence. Ready, get
it done, and then we could worry about the rest

(03:08):
of the roster. Get it done. It is maybe not
that black and white. And yeah, man, I do think
the Reds offseason would have to include more than just
signing Kyle Schwarber. As awesome as that would be, that
would be the centerpiece around which other stuff happened. They

(03:28):
need more bullpen help, they need more outfield help. They
could use offensive upgrades at a couple of different positions.
But if you could do all of that around the
reigning National League home run champion, well, who wouldn't be
here for that?

Speaker 6 (03:42):
Right?

Speaker 4 (03:43):
Get it done. Then we can worry about the rest
of the roster. Think of Think of the opportunity that
would present itself to the Reds if they sign Kyle Schwarber.
There's the obvious, right, you're putting a legitimate home run
threat in the middle of your order. Who would be
playing eighty one games in one of the best hitters

(04:07):
park in the sport parks in the sport. Right, the
opportunity in front of the Reds if you signed Kyle Schwarber,
start with that. Right, you get to the middle of
your lineup, a tried and true home run threat, quintessential slugger.
Is he gonna hit fifty six home runs this coming season?
Maybe not, but I think you would wager on him
hitting thirty five, forty, forty five, maybe fifty. Do any

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of those numbers sound bad? No, they all sound awesome.
So start with that. But it really would go kind
of above and beyond, you know, just the bat and
the production and what you would be adding to the
middle of your lineup. Think of lineup protection. Ask yourself this,
what do you think Ellie dela Cruz wants? Regardless of
where they hit him? And even if you think as

(04:52):
I do, the Red should be okay telling Ellie no
about certain things like playing every single day or playing
shortstop totally unshe challenged without even thinking about moving him elsewhere?
What do you think Ellie wants? Like this entire Ellie
de la Cruz conversation that we've had for so long
now is based on winning while he's here, protecting him,

(05:13):
allowing him to thrive, and giving him the best possible
environment to reach superstardom. Do you think having a guy
like Kyle Schwarber in the lineup would help or hurt that?
What do you think Ellie dela Cruz wants. There's the
opportunity to kind of rebrand at least a little bit here. Look,

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it's not just here, read about baseball nationally. The Reds
brand is don't spend, unwilling to spend, want to win,
won't go to the end of the earth. To win.
I don't know that signing one guy is going to
change all of that, but it can make a dent.
It could shift things at least a little. And trust me, man,

(05:56):
the folks who run that organization, they care deeply about
what the club's brand is. Even if we're kind of
removed away from where else you're gonna go in one
hundred losses in twenty twenty two, we're not that far
removed from it. And I'm not sure that anybody they
have signed or traded for since has made anybody rethink

(06:18):
how they feel about the team, how they feel about
how the club is run. This would shift things at
least a little bit, at least a little bit. I
think it would also sell some tickets. Now, I don't know.
I don't know that in this economic climate. I don't
know that in this climate that is so competitive for
sports and entertainment dollars, I don't know that they would

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see a huge surge in season ticket sales. But I'd
be willing to bet you'd have more people who made
plans to go watch the Reds in person this year,
whether they're in Cincinnati or maybe from other parts of
quote Red's country. You would be sending a message to
the rest of the division, which frankly, it feels very
wide open right now. You would be earning some goodwill,

(07:02):
you'd be earning some goodwill with your fans, like you would,
you would be doing a lot of different things on
top of, you know, signing a guy who could hit
forty five home runs for you, if not more. That
in itself is reason to go get Kyle Schwarber the
forty five home runs. But I also think there's like

(07:23):
a non monetary value when it comes to like the
surge of optimism and enthusiasm that just permeates through a
fan base when the Reds do something significant. Do you remember,
right before Christmas in twenty eighteen, the Reds traded Homer
Bailey for four guys. Yes, e Elpwig, interesting player, notable player,

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famous player, not a massive superstar, not a dude who
just you jot down in black magic marker. Here's what
his numbers are going to look like, and they're awesome.
But they they traded for yes, elp Wig and Matt Kemp.
Matt Kemp was kind of past his prime, but still
he was Matt Kemp, Alex Wood. Alex Wood, I thought

(08:07):
was the key to the deal. It actually kind of
turned out to be Kyle Farmer. But you remember that
that trade sent the Reds from being a team that
in twenty eighteen lost ninety five games, and it didn't
dramatically alter anybody's perception of how the Reds were going

(08:28):
to play in twenty nineteen. And by the way, the
Reds in twenty nineteen lost eighty five games. Right, But
do you remember that winter Threads did something? They acquired
some players I've heard of. They did something. They they
went and got established big leaguers. They got guys who
have been an All Star games before. They get a

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dude who used to date Rihanna, like, they acquired players
I've heard of. Do you remember that surge of electricity
and enthusiasm that just worked its way through the city.
I do, because what was funny about it is nobody
looked at that deal and thought, yeah, I'll tell you
what now, now the Reds are a playoff team. No,
it was just, you know what, fine, They went and
got somebody I had heard of even the offseason, and

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it kind of all evaporated because of COVID twenty nineteen
to twenty twenty Mike Mustakas. Mike Mustakas didn't work out.
Mike Mustakas has had a had a good career, but
like nobody looked at Mike mustokin Was and was like, dude,
hey got a guy that you could just build the
team around. This is a dude who's just one of

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the premier players at his position. They went and got
Nick Castianas, and Nick Castianos worked out for the two seasons.
He was here, specifically the second one. Good player, good player,
but you didn't look at his numbers. You weren't bowled over.
You were like, wow.

Speaker 6 (09:46):
Up.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
They went and got Shogo Wakaiyama, who turned out to
just be abysmal at the plate. He was pretty good
in the field, I guess, but it wasn't very good.
But they did stuff. They spent some money, they got guys.
Do you remember that offseason? And again it all, it all
kind of came to a screeching halt. I think for
two reasons. One, the Bengals were terrible that year. And

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then it as soon as we found out they were
going to have the number one pick in the draft
and it was gonna be Joe Burrow, it kind of
became the off season about Joe Burrow, and then COVID happened,
and well everything went to hell. But do you remember, remember,
like nobody was really picking the Reds to win the division.
Nobody looked at those moves and were like, man, the
Reds are going to be a ninety win team. But
there was still excitement, and I think there's non monetary value.

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I don't know what that did for Red season tickets.
I don't know what it did for Red season tickets
when they got Y s el Puig or when they
signed Nick castianis a couple of years later, But I
remember the surge of optimism, and I think there's value
in that. There's value in people getting excited about your organization.
So just imagine, just imagine, I don't know, let's say

(10:50):
right before Christmas, wake or so before Christmas, you look
on social media and you see from a reputable that
the Reds are signing Kyle Schwarber, even knowing they would
still have some work to do. You'd be adding him
to a team that from a starting pitching perspective, is

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in really good shape. Be adding him to a team
that did, despite its flaws, make the postseason last year.
Be adding him to a team that does have some
players that have upside, even if they didn't really hit
that upside last year. Can you imagine in a division
that feels like it's as awesome as the Milwaukee Brewers
have been for a while, still sort of feels like
it could be had. Can you imagine it got excited

(11:36):
for players who aren't nearly as good at this one
thing that Kyle Schwarber is good at as Kyle Schwarber.
Can you imagine? And so maybe that's not the reason
why you go sign him. The reason to go sign
him is we need a guy who can hit home runs.
This dude hit fifty six of them last year. And again,
like I said this yesterday, where he's from is completely

(11:58):
and totally irrelevant. It's it's not it's not insignificant, I guess,
But I don't care where he's from. I care that
he can hit the ball out of the ballpark. He
could be had. He's there for the taking, and you
don't have to give up pitching. I would rather give
up money than pitching. I'd rather give up cash. Then
you know, players, commodities, dudes who could actually help I

(12:22):
said yesterday, And I believe it's true. There's no non
financial reason they shouldn't do this, and I get it.
There's other teams that want him. Could be a bidding war,
like I do understand, But there's a dollar figure. There's
monetary value on getting your fans excited, because I would
imagine more people buy tickets, more people buy merch, maybe

(12:43):
more people come to Redsfest, whatever. But I also think
there's great value in just buzz excitement people talking about
your team. By the way, the Bengals so far aren't
very good. College basketball doesn't feel like it's gonna really
be awesome this year here locally. Like dude, So I

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don't know, I'm going to talk about this. I'm going
to talk about this until I hear definitively either from
the Reds themselves or from the team that has signed him,
or from somebody who's like really juiced, really connected, really
really locked in who says give it up. Until then,
I'm not going to give it up because it should.

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It should not be one of those things that we
just dismissed, like we have done so many times before
with this team. Want to rebrand, want people to feel differently,
jump in with both feet, go try to sign Kyle
Schwarber and want to benefit from the surge of excitement
that would just go through this city and this fan base.
Go sign the guy. Oh and by the way, he'd

(13:47):
also probably hit forty five home runs for you next
year minimum, and that'd be kind of cool too. Nineteen
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(16:20):
news today as they get set to take on the
Buffalo Bills. You know, we had a phone call yesterday,
I think it was Ron from Milford. We were talking
about the you know folks talking about the Bengals having
a chance to win the AFC North. Like I think,
if you're looking at this objectively, you do two things,
you do three things. You look at the math and
go okay. It's gonna be really hard for the Bengals

(16:41):
to leap frog two teams, even if one is likely
to lose this week, barring a tie, because Pittsburgh and
Baltimore play against each other, It's gonna be really hard
for them to leap frog two teams and overcome a
two game deficit with five games to go, and really
a two game deficit with four games to go, because
even if the Bengals win on Sunday, they're going to
be two games behind the winner of the Baltimore Pittsburgh game.

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But I think you could also acknowledge the Bengals everything
about this organization's different when Joe Burrow is playing everything
so much so that you could wonder do they ask
too much of Joe Burrow? But also like even the
game on Sunday Baltimore and Pittsburgh, I guess the Ravens
are going to win, but both teams seem eh. Pittsburgh's

(17:27):
offense seems broken. Defensively, they've underachieved massively. Lamar Jackson doesn't
seem like himself. Derrick Henry has certainly had his moments
of awesomeness this year, but there there's a real sense
maybe not that he's a step slow, but he's not
the Derrick Henry, the Hall of Fame caliber guy, and

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you know, he's a running back, so sometimes the drop
off is sudden. They've had major defensive issues this year.
They're six, they're two five hundred teams, And so when
you have two five hundred teams that pretty much laid
total clunkers in their most recent games and the most
the closest pursuer just got one of the best quarterbacks

(18:08):
in the sport. Back Ann has a two on one
record against you. Ann has a three on one record
in the division. I don't know how you at least
don't think at least a little bit about their division
championship candidacy. Now they have to go to Buffalo, and
if they lose to the Bills, the air pretty much
comes out of the balloon. If they beat the Bills, though,

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that optimism is it's it's going to be kicked up
a notch and I'm here for it if that happens.
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at home tonight against the Detroit Red Wings. Our guy
Lee Sterling is with us in advance of conference championship
weekend in college football and Week fourteen to the NFL.
Lee has made us a ton of money on pro
and college football this year. His website is Paramount sports
dot com. His Twitter handle is at Paramount Sports. Lee
is with us. Now, Hello, sir, who were you?

Speaker 9 (20:32):
What's what's going on with Trey Hendrickson? Is you going
to be questionable for like the next fourteen years?

Speaker 4 (20:39):
Yes? The question is not only is he going to
be questionable for the next fourteen years, but for those
fourteen years, will we just constantly be talking about his contract?

Speaker 10 (20:48):
Right? Right? Crazy?

Speaker 9 (20:50):
I mean ever ends decide whether you're going to play,
and decide whether you're going to sign.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
I mean yeah, well I'm not in sure. I'm not
entirely sure. The second part of that is completely on him,
but nonetheless, yeah, we call it our friend Paul. We
have a guy here named Paul Danner Junior who covers
the Bengals for the Inquiry, and he has long since
labeled the Trey hendricks and Saga Trays of Our Lives
because it's an ever ending soap operation. I like that.

Speaker 11 (21:16):
I like that.

Speaker 10 (21:17):
I liked it.

Speaker 9 (21:17):
I had a girlfriend one time that watched Days of
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for like four or five years.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
So all right, let's talk about some of these games.
Big twelve title game of rematch. Texas Tech handled BYU
pretty easily in the regular season tilt, so they're laying
a pretty big number in Dallas. We like the Red
Raiders of the Cougars.

Speaker 9 (21:42):
So you watch that game correct, first game? All right,
what did you think the score would be?

Speaker 5 (21:47):
Should have been?

Speaker 9 (21:49):
Just based on what you saw?

Speaker 4 (21:50):
Based on what I saw? Thirty one to seven Texas Tech.
The BYU's offense was not good that day, all right.

Speaker 9 (21:59):
So the final was twenty nine seven. I thought it
should have been like forty to nothing. I mean, they dominated.

Speaker 10 (22:04):
It still wasn't even close.

Speaker 12 (22:05):
You know.

Speaker 9 (22:05):
It was just one of those days, and Texas Tech
was much better. I mean, their defense is great, their
top ten in almost every major statistical category. But sometimes
I'm watching BYU that day like it was a combination.
They just couldn't get anything going. Every pass that hit
a receiver's hands would bounce off and go to the
other team. Play calling just wasn't sharp, but they still

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won eleven of their twelve games. That was the only
game they lost. I think they're going to make so
much justline here. I know everyone's talking about, Oh, it's
going to be so many Texas Tech fans. BYU travels,
I mean BYU has fans all over the world, I
mean other countries too, So I think that they're going
to show up. I think it might be sixty forty

(22:51):
at most seventy thirty. And with their head coach Kolaney
Sataki coming back, these kids are on the high here.
I think Tech wins this game thirty to twenty four.
I think this game goes right down to the wire.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
You mentioned something that I tried to tell people by
you played here late in the season, and I'm going, dude,
there's gonna be so much blue there. Number One, they're good.
Number two, they travel well. Number three, they're alumni base
at that school is enormous, and they actually had a
UC soccer stadium their own tailgating area. Now, not the
kind of tailgate that I would enjoy lead necessarily, but

(23:24):
still they had their huge tailgating area. That alumni base
is massive, and so I'm with you. I think the
Cougars have a lot of supporters in the house. Let's
talk about the NFL. A game, we're paying attention to.
One's gonna win. We think one's gonna lose, barring a tie.
So the Bengals are gonna be two games behind. Whom
is it gonna be Baltimore laying six or Pittsburgh getting points?

Speaker 9 (23:47):
Yeah, yeah, it's painful to watch both. The Steelers had
ninety seven rushing yards the average per game they're week.
They're number twenty seven in that category out of thirty
two teams. They even doubled it when they played Chicago
two games ago and still lost the game. That's an
indication of how many weaknesses this team has. Their defense

(24:09):
up and down. I mean, you can see in one
series they look great, the next series terrible. I don't
think that that Mike Commas getting these players to play
to their potential. Then on the other side of la
Mark Jackson, he's obviously not one hundred percent. I mean,
they just don't have the players there that these have.
Their offensive line getting beaten up here, So you got

(24:31):
two teams that are sitting entries. It's like a horse race,
sitting at six and six. They're going around the track,
and what are they doing. They're looking back and they're
seeing the Bengals four and eight saying, oh, we've got
to pick it up here, but they don't have enough
to pull away. I think Baltimore wins twenty seven to
twenty three, but Pittsburgh covers.

Speaker 13 (24:51):
You got to pick one side.

Speaker 4 (24:52):
Lee Sterling, Paramount sports dot Com is with us, all right,
speaking of the Bengals on the road getting five and
a half against Buffalo to the be those pull off
the upset, yep.

Speaker 9 (25:03):
So on the road, it's interesting. Bengals number one in
time of possession for his offense, so they control the ball.
I don't think Buffalo's that good. I know that they
won last week. Great play calling. They decide the other teams,
you know, not going to get in the pass, so
they're going to run the football. But their offensive line

(25:24):
isn't great. Their receivers get very little separation. I know
we're playing you know, they're playing Cincinnati, and Cincinnati has
been great, but they seem to play better and more
inspired when Joe Joe Burrows on the field here. And
on top of that, I think their defense isn't great.
You know, they have some good games, but you know,
as long as you know they're moving the ball and

(25:46):
they don't fall more than seven points behind, I think
the Bengals can stay in. In fact, I'm calling for
the upside. Ye came forward shocker the week Bengals thirty
to twenty seven.

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Okay, sounds good money.

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Speaker 4 (28:09):
Ten away from four. This is ESPN fifteen thirty Mouegger.
On Thursdays, We're joined by our guy, Chad Brendall. We
talk UC football and basketball and more. His website is
bearcad Journal dot com, where he's got signing Day covered,
He's got the skyline Chile Crosstown shootout covered, He'll have
the Bowl selection for UC covered, covering a lot, and

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he's going to cover some of that stuff with us.

Speaker 9 (28:36):
Now, Hi, Chad, Hello, Crossover season.

Speaker 6 (28:40):
It's fun.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Let me tell you.

Speaker 4 (28:41):
I'm sure it is. I'm sure it is a lot
going on. Is Gisel James gonna play for the Bearcats
this season?

Speaker 13 (28:50):
I don't think so.

Speaker 6 (28:52):
That's the word I've gotten is back around the program.

Speaker 5 (28:59):
Not necessary like.

Speaker 6 (29:02):
Figured in to be part of the on floor product.

Speaker 9 (29:06):
This year.

Speaker 6 (29:07):
But I mean, I think you know as well as
I do, like, got a coach that's fighting for something.
We'll see so that I have been told not to
expect him to play, So in that sense, I don't
expect him to play, but this is college sports and

(29:28):
I never rule anything out anymore.

Speaker 4 (29:31):
So we're not expecting him, but we wouldn't be surprised
if he does play.

Speaker 6 (29:38):
I think that's probably the most fair assessment of the situation.
You would not see my shock face if we showed
up one day and it was like, just's playing tonight.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
Okay, what if he played tomorrow?

Speaker 6 (29:54):
I would be very surprised by that, to my knowledge,
Like he hasn't really practiced with the team since like June,
early July, so I think that would be pretty surprising.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
Okay, assuming then no Jizzle tomorrow. How did the Bearcats
win at the Centas Center for the first time in
twenty four years?

Speaker 6 (30:19):
They defend the three point line because that has been
a the most reliable, consistent way x has been scoring
since they kind of readjusted the lineup, and credit to Richard.
I think he's done a fantastic job with this group
to this point because things look really bad. And I

(30:40):
mean they looked bad, bad, and they don't look bad
bad anymore. Like I don't think they're jumping up to
compete with Yukon and Saint John's for the top of
the Big East this year. But he's taken a product
that looked like it was going to be a nightmare
and they're winning, like they're doing some winning things. And

(31:01):
I mean, look, you make sixteen threes a game like
they've done a couple times, things are going to get
a lot easier on the win column. But uh, that's
a big one for me. And I think, you know, what,
how does Cincinnati handle a team? I'm gonna it's gonna
be taken as a shot mo and I do not
intend this as a shot at all. Okay, right now,

(31:23):
Xavier's formula is they play a lot like a mid major.
They play five out, they spread you out. They don't
really have a lot of rim presence. They're not playing downhill,
they're not turning over, they're passing the ball well. Their
assists numbers are high, and they're making jump shots. And
that's you know, that's how a mid major like wins games.

(31:44):
Right How does how does Cincinnati defend that with you know,
Mustapha Chom and Bob A.

Speaker 9 (31:51):
Miller.

Speaker 6 (31:52):
Xavier's going to try to drag those guys out on
the floor and make them defend shooters twenty two feet
from the basket, going to take away Cincinnati's ability to
protect the rim yor one of the better two point
defenses in the country.

Speaker 9 (32:06):
In large part.

Speaker 6 (32:07):
Because those two guys are on the floor so defensively,
how does Cincinnati handle that? And offensively and like you've
got a much better seat than I do. It has
been hard to watch. There's not a lot of continuity,
There's not a lot of It doesn't seem like there's

(32:28):
a lot of trust between the team.

Speaker 14 (32:31):
Yet.

Speaker 6 (32:32):
I thought we saw some signs of improvement. The ball
moved better on Monday night, but it wasn't for forty minutes,
So they got.

Speaker 9 (32:42):
A lot of work to do and not a lot
of time to do it.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
I just it doesn't feel like from Game one on
November three to the eve of the Skyline Chili Crossdown shootout,
it just doesn't feel like they've improved.

Speaker 6 (32:57):
That's part of the problem, right, Like we've talked about
this a lot over the past past week or so,
we're twenty five percent of the way through the season.
More than twenty five percent of the way through the season.
Where is that? You know, we talk a lot about, Hey,
it's a brand new team, the transfer portal. You know,
they're they're they're doing this, they're doing that, and then.

Speaker 5 (33:22):
That's to me.

Speaker 6 (33:23):
By the time you get into November and December, things
should be trending up because guys have got seven eight
nine games together. They're a little bit more comfortable with
where everybody likes to shoot and you know, where to
move the ball and how the offense operates.

Speaker 5 (33:38):
Have we seen that really at all?

Speaker 9 (33:40):
I mean not in enough.

Speaker 6 (33:42):
Consistent stretches to feel good about it. And you know
what I think it is mo Unfortunately, team hasn't played
very hard and that's concerning that. They played hard against Dayton, Yeah,
they played hard Agains Dyton, They played hard against f Louisville.
What other of the the eight games could you look

(34:03):
at and say, man, they really they really were getting
after it tonight.

Speaker 13 (34:06):
I can't think of any.

Speaker 4 (34:07):
I just you use the T word trust. So this
is the first rough environment they're going to go into, right,
and it's going to be a rough environment. If you
don't have.

Speaker 13 (34:18):
Trust and was kind of a yeah, I digress.

Speaker 4 (34:22):
I get it, But I mean team that hasn't developed
that yet. Good luck winning an environment like that against
a team that, say what you want about their limitations
has improved. And I think that's where most Bearcat fans are, right.

Speaker 13 (34:38):
I think it's there.

Speaker 6 (34:40):
Like, I don't know how you could could legitimately say
you feel good about this when you've watched the ARC
for Xavior over eight games or whatever it is, and
you've watched the ARC for Cincinnati over eight games or whatever,
like over eight games, Like, I don't know how you
could look at it and go, I feel really good
about where since Natty's act coming into this, and you

(35:02):
know Xavier's got work to do. That's you're lying to
yourself if you think that's the situation right now. Now,
maybe Cincinnati comes out and plays really hard and defends
and they make some shots and they don't look like
the two hundred and fourteenth offense in the country or
whatever they're ranked right now, and you know, we get

(35:24):
to Saturday and Friday night and we're like, oh.

Speaker 13 (35:27):
Okay, that's what we wanted to see.

Speaker 6 (35:28):
Cool, But I don't have any faith in that right now,
And I don't know how you could.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
What happens to the intensity of whatever hot seat West
Miller is on if they don't win tomorrow.

Speaker 6 (35:42):
Boy, I mean, you've already lost the Louisville. If you
lose the Xavier, and I know you've paid attention, Georgia
and Clemson are playing well, there's a chance you go
one in four in.

Speaker 15 (36:01):
Those five games and.

Speaker 6 (36:04):
Then you got to go into a big twelve that
is not only awesome at the top this year, but
the bottom has performed a lot better than I expected
through the first five weeks. So I would not recommend.
And look, da haven't won there since two thousand and one.

(36:26):
I don't feel great about saying they're going to go
in there and win. But if you're Wes, you have
got to go in there and get this done because
it gets late early if you've lost to Louisville and
Xavier and you've got Georgia and Clemson coming up on
home neutral But there's going to be more Georgia fans
in Atlanta. There's going to be more Clemson fans in Greenville.

(36:50):
Like you're climbing up a steep, steep hill in December.
Like I said before the season, and I took a
lot of heat for this. I said, you know, if
Cincinnati doesn't make the tournament, does West Miller get fired?
And I said, I need to see what it looks like.
I can't answer that question, and so I know what
it looks like. This looks bad so far. The time

(37:15):
to turn it around. Time to turn it around starts
tomorrow night.

Speaker 9 (37:19):
Agreed, Because if you lose the Xavier.

Speaker 6 (37:22):
Who they think that I've been using a Seinfeld reference
lately mo for the UC fan base. The sea was angry,
my friends.

Speaker 4 (37:36):
Yeah, of course, I mean it's it's what his record
is against Xavier to this point. It's the quality of
the Xavier team that they lost to it since US
two years ago, which was not a very good team.
The caliber of the Xavier team now like nothing again. Again,
I think Richard Patino's done a really nice job with
the team that I watched get destroyed home by Santa Clara,

(37:57):
nearly beating Georgia housing West Virginia. They run good stuff,
like they're training in the right direction, which is why
there is all this unease. But it's not a very talented,
overly talented Savior Tiam you lose again to them, on
top of losing to Louisville, on top of how this
has looked, your message board is going to be a dark, dark,
dark place. Yeah, on Saturday morning. Appreciate it as always. Man,

(38:20):
We will talk next week.

Speaker 6 (38:22):
Thanks.

Speaker 4 (38:23):
Yeah, that's our guy. Chad Brendel, Bearcat Journal dot com.
It's four o'clock ESPN fifteen.

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Which team will win this year's Skyline Chili Crosstown Shootout
and fifty one point two percent of you say Xavier
and forty eight point eight percent of you say Cincinnati.
It's fifty to fifty. I'll go ahead and say it.

(40:04):
I think you c will win the game. I've said
that before. I've been dead wrong. I've said Xavier is
gonna win the game, and I've been dead wrong. I
am certainly aware of UC's history in the Senta Center
twenty four years. Haven't won since Steve Logan senior year.

(40:24):
They haven't won consecutive shootouts. To me, is this is
the more like eye opening streak if you will, that
U see hasn't won consecutive Skyline Chile Crosstown shootout games
since the ninety four, ninety five and ninety five ninety
six seasons, since Danny Fordson scored forty in the Cincinnati Gardens.

(40:47):
That it goes back even further, obviously than the two
thousand and one two thousand and two season. So I'm
aware of the history. I also think, and I agree
with what Chad said, and Rick and I talked about
this yesterday, there is a ceiling I think to Xaviers
just collective talent. Now. I think there's maybe more wins

(41:07):
to be had based on just watching the Big East
in the non conference than we might have been willing
to acknowledge before the season started. But but that team
has improved, like the on court product from what they
looked like, not just against Santa Clara, but against Lemoinne,
which was their second game of the season Marist, like

(41:30):
those first three games versus what they've done since. And
they got kind of plastered late in the game against Iowa,
but did some good things that night, and then since
then they've played well. They've played well enough to drill
West Virginia, made sixteen threes, they played well enough to
come this close to beating Georgia and there were a
handful of times in that game where it felt like
the Bulldogs were about to blow them out. They've they

(41:51):
have coalesced pretty nicely. I don't think you could say
that about the Bearcats. It may occur, it may happen,
they may come together, and maybe it starts tomorrow. It
better start here soon, because as you heard Jad just
mentioned playing at Georgia, which is basically what that game
is gonna be. It's gonna be in Atlanta, so pseudo
neutral site, but not really. That's not gonna be easy.

(42:12):
Playing Clemson in South Carolina is not gonna be easy none.
And then there's Big twelve, Like there's getting a win
over Xavier because it's a rivalry game. There's also you've
already lost two. The next two games are coin flips
at best, and then Big twelve play, Like, you know,
what you don't want to do in a year where
you're gonna be judged by whether or not you make

(42:34):
the tournament. What you don't want to do is go
into Big twelve play with five losses, especially specially Uh
when you look at the top of the Big Twelve
and you look at who they start with in Big
Twelve play, So there's winning the game because it's the

(42:54):
UC Xavier game. Uh, there's winning at the Centa Center
and breaking a streak. There's there's also getting your season
back on track. Oh and by the way, if I
didn't mention it, their first Big twelve game is against Houston.
So you already have two losses. You have two games

(43:15):
against high major competition coming up, neither are at home.
Forget the rivalry part of it. Do you do you
want to get your season back on track? You want
to start stacking wins when you have a league schedule
that it's going to be hard to stack wins in
going the RUNA beezager for what it's worth, and you

(43:36):
may argue nothing. ESPN's Basketball Power Index slightly favors Cincinnati,
giving the Bearheads a fifty one point two percent chance
of winning. Now that's a little independent of things like
history and the emotion and how a team that is
having a hard time coming together is going to handle

(43:57):
that road environment. I've watched better U see teams. I
watched a UC team that got a two seed in
the tournament one year go to the Cinta Center and
come unraveled by the environment. It's an extraordinarily tough place
to play, and it's an extraordinarily tough place to play
for a lot of teams. It's obvious that the environment

(44:19):
on that night in that building is different. But I
do think the Bearcats could, and I think should have
the best player on the floor in Baba Miller, and
I do think collectively they're a little bit more talented.
And look, this isn't Mo the UC fan picking the
Bearcats because he's a UC fan. If you know anything

(44:41):
about me, you know I've probably picked Xavier in this
game more than I've picked Uce, and frankly, that means
I've been right more often than I've been wrong. I
am going to lean on the fact that I think
U see is a little bit more talented, and I
think they have the better player, and I think if
what I saw from UC defensively against Loewell shows up
for a larger stretch of time tomorrow, I think they could.

(45:05):
I think they can get out of there with a victory,
but nobody would be surprised if they can't, and if
they don't. There's two different ways of looking at it.
Like if Xavier loses the game, I don't think anybody's
gonna be like, man, how's that gonna impact their tournament chances?
Because I don't think anybody views them as a team
that is gonna make the tournament or that has to
make the tournament. And I don't think anybody's gonna use

(45:25):
that game and use it as an indictment against Richard Patino.
I think Richard Patino's body of work so far with
this team has been pretty good. They look like they're
responding to him, and so maybe it's not house money.
A rivalry game is never house money. Oh thin. He
is a Xavier fan alive, who would go it's kind
of a house money. But all right, Uh, we weren't

(45:47):
supposed to win this one. It is your one new coach.
There is a talent issue. You're not gonna win every
single time at the Cintas Center, although there's a part
of me that feels like they may. If you're Wes Miller,
there's your history against Xavier, which is not great in
spite of last year. There's just not a lot of

(46:07):
signature wins to hang your hat on. There's not a
whole lot of equity built up by previous NCAA tournament appearances.
There's growing unease, unrest, however you want to phrase it,
based on losing the Eastern Michigan to a degree, losing
to Louisville. So there's all of that, and then you

(46:29):
just start to look at the season. You know, last year,
you see lost one non conference game late, a clunker
on the road against Villanova. They didn't play great against Xavier,
but they won. They didn't play great against Dayton, but
they played. They won. They beat a Dayton team that
had played really well in Maui, beat Yukon and Maui.
They had gone on the road and beaten Georgia Tech.

(46:49):
Say what you want about it, but they played a
true road game against NKU and they won that one,
and so you kind of came out of the non
conference they're like, all right, cool, one loss, and then
remember how conference plays started. They lost a cam it's
a state and never really got going. Can you imagine
and you don't want to get too far ahead of
yourself with the Georgia game in the Clemson game, but
can you imagine going into the Big Twelve with as

(47:10):
many as five losses? I don't know that you want
to go into the Big Twelve with three or four
you'll have three minimum if you lose tomorrow. And that's
before we even talk about how they beat some of
those teams in the Big Twelve that they are going
to have to beat. They're gonna have to beat some

(47:30):
of those teams or at least win some of those games.
Even if they beat Xavier, even if they beat Clemson
in Georgia, think of the uphill battle though hav in
front of them. If they don't, they don't win tomorrow,
and if they don't win the next two, which unfortunately
is on the table. So it's you know, I'm never

(47:54):
gonna pay much attention to people who talk about the
game losing its luster. The dynamic of the game has changed.
It matters more when both teams are good. It doesn't
feel like either team is good. The game is better
when it's in February. I think all of us agree
with that. But it doesn't mean it's not special. It
doesn't mean it's not going to be an awesome atmosphere tomorrow.

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And it's really huge for the UC Bearcats. It is
an enormous game for the UC Bearcats. It's an enormous
game for the UC Bearcat basketball team. It is obviously
a very big game for the UC basketball coach. Seventeen
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some room in the five pm hour. Damn straight, we do.
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And even better scenario.

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Thanks you for correct Yes.

Speaker 4 (50:27):
There you go. You know all is right with the world.
Ro Joe Burrow is back, and he reminded after he
knocked off some russ early in that game, reminded the
world that he's, you know, pretty good.

Speaker 5 (50:37):
Yeah, it's just such a transformative figure It really is amazing,
isn't it. I mean, Zach Taylor looks like a genius,
sal Golden looks confident, even like Brown looks like he's,
you know, got some idea of what's going on as
long as Joe Burrow's out there and playing. And you know,
it might have been a little fluky, but yeah, the
Vengalos have nine takeaways and ten quarters with Joe Burrow playing,

(50:58):
and that they gets six turnovers and the other thirty
eight quarters with the backups in there. I mean, you know,
maybe there's not a direct A to B line on
that and it's a little fluky, but I don't think so,
and I don't think the Bengals players think so either.
You could see just the way they rally them. And
everybody knows this.

Speaker 13 (51:13):
It's nothing new.

Speaker 5 (51:14):
You know, your franchise quarterback obviously makes is the ultimate disinfected, right,
and he makes everything. When he's gone, the warts appear,
and when he's out there things are much more rosy.
So we saw that with Joe. I don't know if
I was expecting to be quite that obvious in his
first game back, but you know, the hard cleats or

(51:35):
whatever it is, he's wearing is obviously has magical powers,
and it was great for at least one weekend, you know,
Thursday night anyway, to be reminded of what we've been
missing over the last whatever it's been two and a
half months, I mean, and what we've really been robbed
over these first six years of his career with twenty
plus starts missed, you know, I mean it's you know,

(51:56):
that's looking negativity on what should be a bit of
an optimistic week. But still it made me a little
wistful seeing the Bengals and Burrow play so well and
reminded me of what.

Speaker 10 (52:06):
We've been missing out on with him out.

Speaker 5 (52:07):
But at least for now, it's all good.

Speaker 4 (52:09):
How'd you feel at halftime when he had dropped back
thirty three times?

Speaker 5 (52:13):
Yeah, I was a little surprised by that too. I
guess it was all that preseason action. Yeah, that was that, right. Yeah,
it was a lot, no question about it. And you know,
but it's Joe Burrow.

Speaker 10 (52:25):
I you just see.

Speaker 5 (52:26):
Him telling Zach Taylor out of the game. Hey, no restrictions,
you know, no restrictor plate Let's go call the game
as we would. That's the matchup they wanted to take
advantage of.

Speaker 13 (52:36):
They thought they, you know, could get the ball moving.

Speaker 5 (52:39):
Better through the air, and that's usually the case with
Joe out there, even with see Higgins out, so a
little surprising, and you know, you always worry in the
back of your mind when he drops back a lot
like that that maybe it's not the best idea, But
he got through the game and we know what he's capable.

Speaker 13 (52:56):
Of, and it was it worked out.

Speaker 5 (52:57):
So as long as it keeps working out, I'm fine
with it. Hope they get the more balance attack going
slowly down.

Speaker 4 (53:03):
Yeah, yeah, no question. You wrote about the Bengals blitzing Lamar,
blitz the Bejesus out of them, first time I've used
the word but Jesus on this show. So I've wondered this, right,
especially for a team that like linebacker in particular, you
got guys who aren't good at coverage, So why don't
you send them in the other direction and just have
them go after the quarterback? Should they start just pretty
much blitzing everybody?

Speaker 5 (53:25):
Well, yeah, I think you see, and you and Al
Golden are thinking alike in that scenario, whether that's worth Yeah,
they've definitely up their blitzing take and listen. I mean,
there are a lot of guys and a lot.

Speaker 13 (53:37):
Of offenses you don't blitz.

Speaker 5 (53:38):
I mean, maybe it's counterintuitive, but Aaron Rodgers is one
of the least blitzed quarterbacks in the league. So is
the attack of by low and why their whole offenses
are geared toward getting the ball out really fast and
throwing the guys who the linebackers and safeties, guys who
normally blitz would ordinarily be covering. So you know, you
think in that scenario you don't want to do it
quite so much. But point is valid in that the

(54:02):
Bengals have to get some pressure from anywhere. They've been
dying for it all year. They're still playing with out
Trey Hendrickson and Shabbar Stewart, and it's just you know,
you're at you're at the point now where you've got
to find that pressure from anywhere. And you saw on
Thursday what that meant to a team when they can
actually get heat on the opposed quarterback.

Speaker 13 (54:18):
They might not get.

Speaker 5 (54:19):
Five turnovers every game by doing it, but I don't
think there's any question they'll be blissing a lot. Josh
Allen and everyone else they play on down the line,
they get Lamar again. He's the most blitzed quarterback in
the league. And when he's not one hundred percent, you
know the Bengals have done it before. They've gone after
a hymn romentlessly, and I think you'll you'll definitely see
a blitz heavy package for the for the last few

(54:39):
games of the season, no question about it.

Speaker 4 (54:41):
Robert wind trub Is with excuse me, Robert wind trub
Is with a Cincinnati magazine dot com. He also contributes
to a website FTN Fantasy and this time of year,
a lot of folks love to hit refresh on their
DVOA odds. Right, So the Bengals right now six point
six percent, which is basically loaded up on the AFC
North six point five. How are DVOA odds calculated?

Speaker 5 (55:04):
Well, you start with the overall efficiency of the team,
which is DVOA. Bengals pretty low in that category still
despite the win on Thursday, and then we play out
the season twenty five the remainder of the season in
its entirety, twenty five thousand times with the supercomputer in
the back room, I think his name is Gene, and uh,

(55:25):
you know, you take we take recent events into account.
Kind of waited a little bit, so the most recent
games and you know things like Joe uh, Joe Burrow
coming back are taken into account. And then he take
those twenty five thousand scenarios and you get the average
wins and losses from it. Put it into a spreadsheet
and see what happens overall in that scenario. As it
pertains to the Bengals, as you say, only six percent

(55:47):
of the time, six point six percent of the time
today you know, managed basically to win out and steal
the AFC North. And you know that's not that surprising, right,
I mean it's hard for any NFL team in any
scenario to win five or six straight games. I mean
that's not asked. That asking a lot for any team.
But this proof of concept, you know we did last year,

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seldom make the rundown the stretch, win five straight and
if not for the Chiefs turtling, do exactly what they
are trying to do this year, which is, you know,
turn a depressing three months into an amazing last month
and come from way back in the pack and do it.
So you know, the playoff odds would definitely go up
if they beat Buffalo, and you have to remember, to Raven,

(56:31):
the Steelers play each other, and one of their odds
are going to go down, and it's gonna you know,
as long as they keep winning, those odds will go
up and up.

Speaker 13 (56:38):
That's all we can really hope.

Speaker 5 (56:39):
For at this time of year.

Speaker 4 (56:40):
I would describe right now a Raven Steelers game as
a pillow fight. And I don't know that at any
point I ever envisioned myself saying that about those two
teams playing against each other.

Speaker 13 (56:50):
Yeah, it's kind of hard to believe.

Speaker 5 (56:52):
Right there's two rock ribbed franchises right now just don't
have much booms behind anything they're doing. And you know, again,
especially in Baltimore's case, a lot of that is.

Speaker 9 (57:01):
Tied to the health of the quarterback.

Speaker 5 (57:03):
Just like we were talking about with the Bengals, Lamar
Jackson not himself, and they're a very mortal team and
all the things that you think about as being strengths
are not really the case. And it all ties back
into the fact that their quarterback is injured. And with Pittsburgh,
you know, I think to coin a phrase or was
it Dennis Green who said they are who we thought
they were? You know, a team coming down the stretch

(57:25):
with an ancient quarterback, not much of an offensive plan.
You know, guy spending a lot of money on the
defense that really isn't that capable. And you know they're
a team that when you have fire, your coach chance.
I mean, as much as everybody complains about Zach Taylor,
I don't recall any fires Zach Taylor chance that they
of course stadium recently, so that's going on in Pittsburgh,

(57:46):
so you can tell right now they're in the toilet.
But you know they play each other. As I mentioned
on Sunday, one of those fan bases is going to
feel a lot better about themselves come Monday morning.

Speaker 13 (57:56):
And you know it's the NFL.

Speaker 5 (57:58):
Things turn on a dime. So I wouldn't discount either
one of those teams at the moment. But it's ironic
that's here we are, and.

Speaker 13 (58:06):
It's the Bengals.

Speaker 5 (58:06):
Everybody feels the best about before coming from as four
and eight hole. Maybe it's not impossible given the fact
that the Ravens and Steelers are really spinning their wheels.

Speaker 13 (58:15):
At the moment.

Speaker 4 (58:16):
Awesome stuff. As always, we will bother you next week,
thanks so much.

Speaker 5 (58:20):
I can't wait it's never bothered. Thanks mam.

Speaker 4 (58:22):
That's our guy. Robert Wintraub, Cincinnati Magazine dot com. Go
read his Bengals column. It's available right now. Hans Schroeder
from the NFL is going to join us next.

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You know.

Speaker 4 (59:27):
One of the cool things about Thursday Night. Yes, the
Bengals win, but the Bengals won in front of a
massive audience. That game Baltimore hosting Cincinnati. Thanksgiving Night average
twenty eight point four million viewers. The Thanksgiving triple ahead
of the NFL had was massive. Most watched Thanksgiving Day

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average on record forty four point seven million average viewers
for the three games, and huge matchups too, obviously Green Bay, Detroit, Casey,
Dallas and the most important game of course, Cincinnati on
the road against Baltimore. Here to talk about that for
a few minutes is a Cincinnati native. He is the
NFL EVP of Media Distribution, Hans Schroeder. I believe your

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second time on the show, Hans. Thank you for joining us.
How are you.

Speaker 13 (01:00:15):
Well? Great to talk to you. I think yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:00:17):
I think we connected back in twenty two on that
on super Bowl week and one to the Super Bowl
for the Bengals. So it's been a bit, but it's
great to connect.

Speaker 13 (01:00:27):
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 4 (01:00:28):
I appreciate you doing this. I think you kind of
had the perfect storm on Thanksgiving Night, right. It's it's
a divisional rivalry, it's a lot of familiarity, it's a
former a two time MVP and Lamar Jackson. I also
think like Joe Burrow brings eyeballs. Joe Burrow's return, though,
is a little bit different. I think that helped.

Speaker 15 (01:00:46):
Look it all helped, you know, coach Coach Madden would
always say about Thanksgiving. You know, it's about two great
things coming together, which is football and family and probably
add food into that one coach.

Speaker 13 (01:00:58):
And so you know, you've seen that. We've we've seen.

Speaker 15 (01:01:01):
Our viewership grow now four years in a row on
Thanksgiving and it's really just becoming this unique high point
of the season for our fans. And and certainly as
we looked to this year, you know, we thought there
was an opportunity to even put some of our bigger
matchups into and onto Thanksgiving and and continue that growth.

(01:01:21):
And by the way, I should, I should hit it
head on what we I know that the Cincinnati fans
feel like they're.

Speaker 13 (01:01:26):
In Baltimore a lot on the road in primetime.

Speaker 15 (01:01:30):
I could tell everybody there. We looked really long and
hard and deep into the scheduling process. We actually saw
a lot a lot of times where Baltimore was in
Cincinnati on primetime. But it's just in the final the
final schedule that we sort of liked the most about.

Speaker 13 (01:01:46):
Uh, it ended up the other way.

Speaker 15 (01:01:48):
But look, that was the culmination with with what is
now one of the best divisional rivalries the last couple
of years is from the Bengals to get the Ravens together.
We thought a great way to end up after you know,
Detroit in Green Bay and jac and Dallas, and a
great way to end Thanksgiving in a really special way.

Speaker 13 (01:02:05):
And then we had Joe's return, as you said, which
all sort of made it even that much greater.

Speaker 4 (01:02:10):
This might be a stupid question, but obviously on Thanksgiving
you're going to have Detroit in Dallas. You now have
had the primetime game for years. The Bengals played in
one way back in twenty ten, so you have four
different teams minus obviously Detroit and Dallas. Do do teams
request they ask to play on Thanksgiving? Because Burrow talked
about it after the game about you know how cool

(01:02:32):
it would be to play Thanksgiving night. Is this something
that teams ask if they could be a part of.

Speaker 15 (01:02:37):
Yeah, Look, I think teams love playing in national windows
and whether that's four twenty five on Sunday or prime
time and then Thanksgiving sort of.

Speaker 10 (01:02:46):
Reaching another level.

Speaker 15 (01:02:47):
Obviously, it's a Thursday, so it's a shorter week, and
we have some considerations, you know, obviously with how we
play teams on Thursdays and shorter weeks. I think teams
love playing on home's s at home on Thursday, especially
those short weeks. But I think the stage and the
profile and the audience now is making it a little
bit different. But it's really teamed to team, you know,

(01:03:08):
and player to player. I think how they think about it.
But you know, when you start seeing these audiences number
that number in Dallas, rival I think it's rivaled last
year's AFC Championship game. It's our fourth highest view game
outside of a Super Bowl. You know, it's it's reaching
levels that I think players love to play on.

Speaker 13 (01:03:25):
Big stages, and there's no bigger stage for us in
the regular season now than Thanksgiving.

Speaker 4 (01:03:30):
Chiefs Cowboys averaged on CBS fifty seven point two million viewers.
So you know who's going to play each other, right,
it's a matter of sliding the games. Did it take
you less than five seconds to put the Chiefs on
Thanksgiving afternoon?

Speaker 13 (01:03:46):
It's a great question.

Speaker 15 (01:03:47):
It's actually, you know, when we've looked at it and
sort of looked over the past.

Speaker 13 (01:03:51):
Few years and we try to look at what our
fans are telling us, and you know, when when more
and more people are.

Speaker 15 (01:03:58):
Tuning in on Thanksgiving and it we hit big numbers
fortunate on Sunday afternoon or Sunday night, but what we
really see is a few windows separating themselves and kick
offs one of them and Thanksgiving to another one. And
so you know, we put some really good games on
those days, but we thought there was an opportunity to
put even some of our bigger matchups. You know, this

(01:04:19):
year had a great We have a great schedule and
a great set of games every year, but there were
some fun ones with the AFC North playing the NFC
North and NFC East, you know playing the NFC North.

Speaker 13 (01:04:29):
We just had a lot of.

Speaker 15 (01:04:30):
Really fun, interesting, big matchups and it really gave us
an opportunity to put some of our bigger matchups on
Thanksgiving and see how.

Speaker 13 (01:04:38):
High up up could be. And it ended up being
really high and.

Speaker 15 (01:04:43):
Frilled with it and hopefully the winner is ultimately our
fans and our partners.

Speaker 13 (01:04:47):
When you see those type.

Speaker 4 (01:04:48):
Results you mentioned, you know, the Bengals Ravens thing in
primetime on a Thursday, and like I won't lie, we've
griped about it here. They have to go there in
a short week every year. This year they won and
look both the two games the Ravens and Bengals played
last year, we're both awesome. One was in prime time.
Obviously you want those games in big windows. But is

(01:05:08):
there you know, people go all conspiracy when they see
the schedule come out. What is the biggest misconception that
fans have about how either the schedule comes out when
it comes out in April or May, or how it
unfolds once you start getting into two flex scheduling, especially
this time of year.

Speaker 15 (01:05:27):
Okay, I think the biggest the biggest misconception that would
be there's any conspiracy because we spent so much time
and effort. It is a five month marathon of trying
to figure out how we make thirty two teams happy,
all our media partners happy, you know, all our you know,

(01:05:47):
the travel, the competitive aspect. Now with more international games,
there's so many different things and sort of making sure
we're delivering for our fans that we try to look
through all that and try to figure out how all
those pieces of the puzzle for every one of the
two hundred and seventy two games we have to schedule,
how do we make it the best possible schedule that

(01:06:09):
we can. And look, we do look at trends, We
look at things. We went into this year. We were
pretty conscious of Cincinnati as an example, being on the
road a lot in recent years, particularly in prime time,
and you know that that was something we wanted to
make sure we were equitable. Your friend Paul Dayaners and
Jay have a lot of stats about being on the
road and the division on Thursday nights and otherwise, you know,

(01:06:31):
like even you know, we try to keep track of
all those data points and so you know, certainly it
was an important you saw that come to life with
the Pittsburgh game and being in Cincinnati. So look, we
look at all that. You know, it's an impossible job
to make, you know, to talk fully solved for everything
in a maximum way that we could, but we try

(01:06:52):
to get.

Speaker 13 (01:06:52):
As close as we can.

Speaker 15 (01:06:53):
And I think this year we're up six percent going
into Thanksgiving weekend. That should be the biggest you know,
you're weekend in our history as a league. So that
number is even going to go up. So I think
we're doing something right, but we're always trying to be smarter,
always trying to learn, always trying to figure out how we.

Speaker 13 (01:07:09):
Can get better.

Speaker 15 (01:07:10):
And and again I would just stress you know, we
really try to think about all the different considerations and
really be as fair and equitable as we can be.

Speaker 4 (01:07:18):
All Right, I root for myself. I want the Black
Friday game? Can I get that next year?

Speaker 10 (01:07:25):
Look?

Speaker 15 (01:07:25):
I tell you, like another thing Coach Madden would say
with you know and Howard Katz who ran the scheduling
process before me for many years. You know, it's say
it sounds like a football game, and you know that
Bears Eagles sounds like a football on Black Friday.

Speaker 13 (01:07:40):
But you know Bengals Steelers and Bengals Ravens.

Speaker 15 (01:07:43):
There's a lot of there's a lot of Bengals games
in Ohio and being from there and knowing how special
football is and intertwined and by the way, and seeing
that game, what was it a couple of Fridays ago?

Speaker 9 (01:07:55):
Was it?

Speaker 13 (01:07:56):
Was it ex An Elder that was playing and.

Speaker 15 (01:07:58):
In the stadium and plus thousand people.

Speaker 4 (01:08:01):
There and in bad weather.

Speaker 13 (01:08:02):
We know what a and bad weather, we know what
a big football town.

Speaker 15 (01:08:08):
You know, there is in in in what Cincinnati and
the state of Ohio is. So look, we like one
of the things we like about adding Thanksgiving Night and
Black Friday.

Speaker 13 (01:08:20):
Is that adding the ability.

Speaker 15 (01:08:21):
For for more teams over Thanksgiving weekend to play on
that big stage.

Speaker 13 (01:08:25):
So again, I think we'll look at it.

Speaker 15 (01:08:28):
We'll look at it continuing to build Black Friday and
and certainly you know Ohio and and Cincinnati would be
a great home for a Black Friday game one day.

Speaker 4 (01:08:35):
Well, when you're when you're jotting down next year, just
keep me in the back of your mind, because I
at home game. I want to I want to go
to pay Corps on on Black Friday. That'd be a
lot of fun. Congrats on an awesome Thanksgiving. You have
like such a fascinating job. I could talk to you
for hours. So maybe one day I'll ask you to
do that. But I can't thank you enough and we'll

(01:08:55):
catch up down the road. Hans, thanks so much, well,
thank you.

Speaker 15 (01:08:58):
I got to get at some point I got to
hear about how you did a show on a concussion.
I think I heard that in a podcast recently, And
I got to give a shout out to a good
friend of mine. Louis from Lachlan back in Cincinnati. So anyways,
I'm happy to join any time. We'd love to talk
to you, and you know, take care and hope it.
You know, we've got a big one, i know for

(01:09:18):
the Bengals and Bill yeah on Sunday, so you know,
hopefully that's you know, that's an exciting game as well.
So reach out anytime, great to connect you.

Speaker 4 (01:09:29):
Got it, Hans, We definitely will, Thanks so much, thank you.
That's Hans Schroeder, NFL EVP Media Distribution usquet. Dude has
just an awesome job and at least the acknowledges we're
tired of the Bengals having to go to Baltimore in
a short week.

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Speaker 17 (01:10:47):
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Speaker 18 (01:10:48):
Happy Thursday to you, brother.

Speaker 4 (01:10:50):
Happy final week of the regular season to you and
others who are not playing out the string unlike myself,
which is exactly what I'm doing. But nonetheless, that doesn't
mean that we don't have our friends who are headed
to the postseason in mind.

Speaker 18 (01:11:04):
Yes, yes, and you know what psa announcement right there
if you are out of it, but the league's still
playing regular season games this week. Still set your lineup? Yeah,
people need those eleven seeds to pull off the upsets,
perhaps for their playoff chances, but this is definitely the
time to start playing for some playoff success and I
think it starts with how you build your best bets

(01:11:25):
right by weeks. They'll be over after this week. Only
focus on winning right now, not stashing early in the season.
You want to stats those players late, but now it's
who can help me win this week. Maybe a little
bit as you look ahead and you want to back
up your studs, get those backup running backs for your
starting running backs. And definitely want to be smart with
dropping players too, because at this time of year, you

(01:11:46):
don't want to just drop somebody that's going to become
really valuable for other teams, especially playoff teams. And when
you get into that, especially if you're starting to know
who your opponents are, sometimes you can play keep away.
If I know your quarterback sucks and I've got some
spots on my bench, I could try to beat you there,
so you don't end up getting the quarterback that could
beat me. And then, obviously the two most important factors

(01:12:07):
here is it's December.

Speaker 13 (01:12:09):
Hey, look outside.

Speaker 18 (01:12:10):
You need to watch the weather because it tends to
play a factor here. And the final and most important
piece of advice, stick to the process. If you got
to the playoffs, if we're doing something right, don't go
change in the way you did it because you start
overthinking the decision.

Speaker 4 (01:12:23):
Let's talk about injuries for Week four team, beginning with
tonight's tilt between Detroit and Dallas.

Speaker 5 (01:12:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (01:12:30):
Man, from a fantasy standpoint, what a frenzy we could
have here for us tonight, But you probably won't have
one of the top fantasy producers in the contest. That
does appear likely that the Monros Saint Brown will not
play this week with an ankle and outside chance here,
I'm not very optimistic. I would have a backup plan, certainly,
a situation to pay attention to as we are closer

(01:12:51):
to the inactives here at ninety minutes for kickoff. Elsewhere,
receiver Drake London not looking like good news there, and
they're surprised if Falcon's had using to play for so
why would he fa He hasn't practiced yet this week.
I guess he still could tomorrow, but I doubt it.
Looking better for t Higgins obviously a full participant today,
still in concussion protocol. Clearly we'll get final word on

(01:13:12):
this one before kickoff. If he goes. He's locked into
here line up there as a wide receiver too, and
Romagne was locked in her lineup as a wide receiver
too earlier in the season, but struggled with late moo
and now hasn't practiced in two straight days with the
foot issue. He's on the wrong side of questionable for
Week fourteen, We've got the quarterback injuries to talk about.
Justin Herbert leaving the list here. Broke his left finger

(01:13:33):
on his left hand last week, finished the game, had
surgery on Monday. He's practicing on the side today. It
looks like he's gonna play, but we're talking about taking
him near the goalwide, letting Trey Lance come in. I
mean his ceiling is severely taken down with this injury
and the fact he's playing on Monday night. I can
find better things here for Week fourteen. Lamar Jackson didn't
practice today.

Speaker 13 (01:13:51):
That's a trend.

Speaker 18 (01:13:52):
Guess what isn't been practicing ely edations. He's come back
and guess what he hasn't also been very fantasy worthy
no touchdowns, three picks over the last couple of games,
and even if he goes this week, he's a back
end and risky QB one. Jayson Daniels a pool participant
today in practice, there's nothing lots to play for in Washington,
but the fact that guys a pool participant leaves meet
cautiously off the mester kill return this week. Aaron Jones

(01:14:13):
also practice today, so he's trending in the right direction.
I don't think Alvin Kamara is going to play the
rest of the season.

Speaker 10 (01:14:18):
We'll see definitely how.

Speaker 18 (01:14:19):
Week four team at that knee issue with the Saints,
Tyro and Tracy should play with the hip and Dalton
Schultz in a matchup versus the Bengals. This is very
key here for fantasy managers because he's trending towards a
potential return in the hamsterring knee issue, and the Bengals
are on an historic pace for fantasy points allowed, the
tight ends giving up four more fantasy points in the
position than the second worst team in the league. So
if Dalton Schultz is in there, he's probably in your line.

Speaker 4 (01:14:42):
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Give me your Week fourteen studs, duds and sleepers.

Speaker 18 (01:14:52):
Yeah, let's get right back to that game tonight, man,
and I mean ce d Lamb and George Pickens to
throw it to and a banged up Detroit secondary. I
mean Dak Prescott might be I got a number two
on the list of QB, but no shock or if
he puts up more Fantasy points and any other player this week. No,
he is certainly top of my stud list here as
his Bucky Irving just got back to the next did

(01:15:12):
the Bucks running back last week after mission about a
month with an injury. I expect a bigger workload this time.
The Buck's a pretty heavy favorite here against the Saints
defense would have been very friendly to running backs. Bucky
Irving checking in at number seven on my board right
now in this week's ranks. On the Dutch side of it,
I mean David Montgomery, I mean he's very touchdown dependent.
Maybe he gets a little bit of garbage time here,

(01:15:34):
but with Dallas and the game flow, I mean, it's
just getting really hard to trust him. He's actually outside
my top thirty. Dk Metcalf, another guy has been mostly
a bus here. Obviously this is a big game in
the AFC North, but he's gone four games in a
row without a receiving touchdown. He has fewer than fifty
receiving yards in each game over that span. Dk Metcalff

(01:15:55):
really a boring fantasy option and then finally some sleepers
Donnie and Mitchell there. But the Jets has emerged as
the go to guy and the youngster is in the
wide receiver three range first Miami and Harold Bannon Jr.
Cracking my top ten at tight end. The over under
on this game continues to drop. It's down to like
thirty three points. I'm not even sure if you'll get there,

(01:16:18):
but Bannon should be involved in the passing game enough
to make him a viable option if you needed that
tight end.

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Hopefully you're having an awesome Thursday. We are twenty six
and a half hours away from tip off tomorrow night
at the Centas Center, the Skyline Chile Crosstown Shootout. The
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is awesome. I said this like two and a half
weeks ago. TNT had dateon net Marquette, which was a
great game Flyers won, and I remember the next day
we talked about how like there was a bigness to
that game because of the game presentation. TNT does it
first class. They treat college basketball well and so the
game is in good hands tomorrow. There's also a great

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Brian Anderson is no stranger to Cincinnati. Years calling Milwaukee Brewers' games.
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the game tomorrow on TNT and very kind enough to
give us a few minutes this afternoon. Brian, It's awesome

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to have you. How are you.

Speaker 14 (01:18:52):
Doing, great man. Good to be back in Cincinnati. My
second trip here this week. So I can't remember ever
being in Cincinnati in the winter time until this year.

Speaker 10 (01:19:01):
Now that we have college basketball. So it's all good.

Speaker 4 (01:19:04):
It's all good.

Speaker 10 (01:19:05):
For trees are up, it's all it's all good.

Speaker 4 (01:19:07):
Well, you've called the match, You've called the French Open, Golf,
the NFL, the NCAA Tournament, the NBA, the Tons of
League Championship Series. This is the Pinnacle, Brian, the Skyline,
Chili Crosstown Shootouts and congratulations.

Speaker 10 (01:19:21):
Yeah, I'm in man.

Speaker 14 (01:19:23):
I love everything I do and I can't wait for this.
We've been on a little text thread.

Speaker 10 (01:19:28):
You know. We got a little appetizer with Xavier on
Monday night.

Speaker 14 (01:19:31):
We were coming off obviously Thanksgiving, but we did a
tournament Thanksgiving week in Vegas, so we were all working
quite a bit. We had multiple crews there. We did
multiple games a day. Michigan won that players their a tournament, so.

Speaker 10 (01:19:46):
We were talking about this game. Then.

Speaker 14 (01:19:50):
For me, it's a little underrated, you know, nationally, I've
always loved this game. I've had Cincinnati and Xavier at
different times throughout my career.

Speaker 10 (01:19:59):
In March madn even.

Speaker 14 (01:20:01):
In the first four they didn't play each other, but
they were there at the same time in Dayton back
what I used to call the first four, and you know,
it's just for me, it's a great game, it's a
great moment, it's a great scene, and no matter what
arena you're in.

Speaker 10 (01:20:18):
So I think we'll do it justice.

Speaker 14 (01:20:21):
We've got our you know, we had a set day
to day, our directors in town, same crew that's been
doing the NBA. They kind of left us at the altar.
So we didn't know what to do with our money
and our resources. So we put it into college basketball.
And so I appreciate you saying that about our coverage.
We take it seriously and we're basically running the same show.

Speaker 10 (01:20:43):
That we ran in the NBA. We'll just bring it
to the college level.

Speaker 14 (01:20:46):
And the Big Ten and the Big East have been
the beneficiarias of that. So we're looking forward to it. Man,
I can't wait to get out there tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (01:20:55):
Having Richard Patino's team on Monday Night. Give me some
impressions of of the Musketeers from watching them up close.

Speaker 10 (01:21:04):
That's a tough read Monday. I mean.

Speaker 14 (01:21:05):
San Francis is a team that did make the NCAA
Tournament last year, but they're going Division three next season.
They're you know, they've got players, but and they may
have a chance to make a run on the NC
but they're they're not in the class of Xavier, and
there's always a little bit of a letdown energy wise,
even though coaches despise that he was killing his players

(01:21:26):
all day before the shoot around because he was just
trying to create a little edge with these guys. And
you know, I thought they played well. They did what
they had to do, they played hard enough.

Speaker 10 (01:21:38):
I do like how he's playing. I mean, they feel like.

Speaker 14 (01:21:43):
I don't mean this in a bad way, don't take
it that way, but they feel like a very strong
mid major style of play, meaning they spread it out.
They're a little undersized, but they can all shoot. They
can switch their bench is plays a little differently than
their starters, which is interesting. I think that's a good curveball.
I actually like that. Grant Hill and I talked about

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that on Monday. But you know, they're a different kind
of team when they roll in their bench players, and
so I think that can actually work. And if they
make threes, you're not always gonna make threes, so they're
gonna suffer some brutal losses. You've already kind of felt
that once this year with Santa Clara. But you're gonna

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have a little bit of that because you relying upon
the three point shooting, But that also means you got
to punch your chance to pretty much beat anyone on
any night in the Big East especially, And so I
like that about their team. They've got some older guys,
you know, the two Serbian guys that came from New Mexico.

Speaker 10 (01:22:46):
I call them the Leech and Veat show.

Speaker 14 (01:22:49):
They know the system, they know Patino well, they came
with him. That serves him well, I think with a
bunch of new players, and so yeah, I think they're
gonna punch above their weight in the Big East this year.

Speaker 4 (01:23:00):
You're folding in Brian Anderson from tnt IS with this
play by play the Skyline Chili Crossdown shootout tomorrow night.
You're folding in a national audience for a local game, right,
two schools within three and a half miles of each other.
And so there's always storytelling. Is it more difficult to
engage in storytelling in this era college basketball when you
have teams, you know, basically turning over entire rosters from

(01:23:23):
one year to the next.

Speaker 14 (01:23:26):
No, I think it actually exposes it more too, because
even though the rosters turnover, and I mean We're so
used to this in the NBA. And obviously you think
about great rivalries in the NBA, and you know playoff
series that I've done recently, Pacers and Knicks. All those
players they don't remember anything from Pacers and Knicks back

(01:23:47):
in the day. But it doesn't mean the rivalry it
still is not great. And that's a chance for us
to do some storytelling. And do you know we have
smaller windows obviously in basketball in the college game, maybe
coming out from break, we don't want to you know,
stop the game and slow it down. But also it
gives us a chance to they're the combatants. It gives

(01:24:09):
us a chance to recognize and honor what this rivalry is,
the history behind it, some of the great players that
have passed through it through the years. And then you know,
we'll we'll shine a pretty bright spotlight on it. We
got a full pre and postgame studio show. There will
be you know, there'll be a lot of social media traffic.
That's one thing, you know, other than the games themselves

(01:24:32):
on the televised the linear television side. It's also streaming
on HBO Max by the way, but you know, our
social teams, we get after it. You know, I don't
know any of them. They're somewhere in New York or Atlanta,
but they just you'll see, like I mean, it's it'll
be our timelines will be flooded TNT Sports and TNT

(01:24:52):
Sports PR and you know all of that's available to
the school. So that's one thing we carried over our
sensibilities from doing the NBA and the MLB postseason.

Speaker 10 (01:25:02):
You know, we're we're pretty good at that and I
think we do a good job.

Speaker 14 (01:25:05):
So it doesn't just exist on a linear channel that
what you're asking, Like the storytelling part, that can all
exist in a lot of different ways, a lot of
social a lot of clips, you know, YouTube's all of that.
So and you know, we attack all of that and
the kind of the same way that we attack the
linear side when we're presenting the game.

Speaker 4 (01:25:27):
I asked about Xavier because you've had them, you're prepping
for Cincinnati and you'll have them for the first time
tomorrow night. What have you come to learn about the Bearcats?

Speaker 14 (01:25:37):
Yeah, I feel you know, they're very similar. They're in
a much tougher league. So the Big East is down generally.
I think it's safe to say at this point, it's
pretty top heavy with Yukon, maybe Saint John. Saint John's
is a little sketch right now. So Big East is
down Xavier pick preseason eight. That's that's probably going to
punch higher than that. I think Cincinnati is in a

(01:25:58):
brutal conference. I mean, the Big twelve is probably as
good as against. I had a bunch of those teams
that players there in Vegas, So I say it this way,
they're gonna have more than enough chances to rack up
quad one wins. Also means they've got a chance to
rack up a ton of losses. And you don't want

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to see what happened to Cincinnati last year happened this
year where they were riding high, they got to fourteenth
in the rankings. They were they're pushing it, they're in
a great spot, and then they go what seven and
thirteen in conference play and they miss out. I think
it's a pivotal year, I really do. I mean, I
think Wets is a great coach. I think he's had

(01:26:44):
a tough draw here in the last few years as
the portal era has turned over in the nil era,
that's a that's you know, a fairly new thing for
these guys, they've had to navigate that.

Speaker 10 (01:26:57):
But I do like their team. I think they have
a lot of.

Speaker 14 (01:26:59):
Guys that our elite level players, and you know, I
just don't I think they're middle.

Speaker 10 (01:27:04):
Of the pack in the Big twelve if it's a
good year, But.

Speaker 14 (01:27:10):
That doesn't mean that can't get him into the NCAA tournament.

Speaker 10 (01:27:13):
So I think the.

Speaker 14 (01:27:14):
Goal there is to grab as many quad one wins
as you can. You know that they have veteran they
have a veteran point guard and a young point guard.
But mc kerr chrisa who I've covered forever. I mean,
I feel like i've sixty year in college. I remember
when he was a freshman in Arizona and he was
talking trash, and I mean we had him in the

(01:27:34):
NCAA tournament, my crew did me and I think it
was Chris Weber back then, even pre was that pre
pandemic must have been anyway, So that really play pays
off plays well when you have kind of a veteran
guy who's been through it knows that he's not going
to be alarmed by tomorrow's environment or any other Big

(01:27:55):
twelve environment though, So the kind of environment these guys
are going to face tomorrow and Xavier Centa Center is
it's gonna be very similar, maybe even more so many
times throughout the years. So I think that'll probably serve
them well. Tomorrow's game will, but Boba Miller being back
is important. I think they you know, they're gonna need
a few more layers. They're a good defensive team, but

(01:28:17):
they're gonna need a few more layers of offense. So
that's where you're hoping guys like a Buyer can keep trending.

Speaker 10 (01:28:23):
I like him a lot.

Speaker 14 (01:28:24):
Keyschan Tillery might be a little bit of a key guy.
You know, he only played four minutes last game, felt
like he kind of got bench or he got relegated
out of the rotation. Curious to see what that looks.

Speaker 10 (01:28:36):
Like coming back. And then.

Speaker 14 (01:28:39):
The biggest news is the Gigsel James story, which you know,
we were here Monday and the chatter about that, so
I have no info on that. I just it just
felt odd to me that a press conference went down
after a game Monday, and then there was an answer
a question about Gigsel James and a very thorough thoughtful
answer that he's family, he's in the enrolled, we love him.

(01:28:59):
And then the next today he's basically back with the program.
So I'm very curious to hear all about this tomorrow
when we talk to coach Mella and the rest of
that staff.

Speaker 4 (01:29:08):
Yeah, you you have as many questions about that as
as we do, so I'm looking forward to seeing how
that story continues to unfold.

Speaker 13 (01:29:16):
Cam.

Speaker 4 (01:29:16):
Thank you enough. I know you have a lot going on.
Enjoy the game, have a great call. Thank you for
the time, Brian, much appreciate it.

Speaker 10 (01:29:23):
Hey Man, great to be with you.

Speaker 4 (01:29:25):
You got it. That's oundtime. You got it, Brian Anderson.
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they're progressing a release to T Higgins. Correct, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 19 (01:31:04):
It looks really encouraging. He was a full participant today.
He's technically still in concussion protocol, but that's just because
he has to do one full practice and then meet
with an independent neurologist. That meeting will take place tomorrow morning,
and all expectations are that he will be cleared and
be ready to play Sunday against Buffalo.

Speaker 4 (01:31:24):
So, now, like you look at them all offensively, they're
very healthy and Jay, do they like actually have a
good offensive line?

Speaker 17 (01:31:32):
Now, yeah, sure seems like it. I mean, think about this.

Speaker 19 (01:31:37):
They've given up one sack in each of the last
three games. The last time they gave up three or
fewer sacks in a three game span was the last
three games of twenty twenty. And they're running the ball
really well. They've really kind of found something. Chase Brown
six straight games with one hundred scrimmage yards or more
and this team they're rushing yards per average is one

(01:31:57):
of the best it's been in the last twenty five years.
It's just all the metrics are really impressive. And then
the eye test is there too. They're moving people, they're
creating holes. You see Chase Brown, he's not quite late
Le'Veon Bell, but he's really kind of patient picking his
spots back there because there are spots. It used to
be there was nowhere to go. Now, there's multiple ways

(01:32:19):
to go and there it's one of the more remarkable turnarounds.
I'm not ready to put the defense in the turnaround
department yet. Let's see a few more games. But what
this offensive line has done, especially under our first year
coach and Scott Peters, has really been impressive.

Speaker 4 (01:32:33):
It has been. Now can they lean on Chase Brown
in that offensive line a little bit more on Sunday
because I don't know, as awesome as it was to
have Joe Burrow back thirty three attempts in the first
half against Baltimore, we can't have a repeat of that
moving forward.

Speaker 10 (01:32:46):
Right Well, I don't know. I mean, can they lean
on him?

Speaker 13 (01:32:51):
Yes?

Speaker 10 (01:32:51):
Will they?

Speaker 17 (01:32:52):
Who knows?

Speaker 10 (01:32:53):
I mean.

Speaker 19 (01:32:53):
Zach Taylor was asked about in his press conference this
week about it's December, it's.

Speaker 10 (01:32:57):
Cold weather, do you lean more into the run game?

Speaker 19 (01:32:58):
And he's like, we'veed up pretty well throwing the ball
in cold weather.

Speaker 17 (01:33:02):
They're they're gonna stick to who they are.

Speaker 19 (01:33:04):
I think if they get a lead, you might see.

Speaker 10 (01:33:07):
Them lean into that running game more.

Speaker 17 (01:33:09):
In the second half.

Speaker 19 (01:33:10):
But I think they're gonna come out attacking and and
really not just attacking with the passing game, but mixing
it up. That's the key thing is where they are
not predictable and they can they can get good.

Speaker 4 (01:33:20):
Games with the running game.

Speaker 19 (01:33:23):
And I just I don't think they're ever going to
change their stripes, so to speak. I think they're always
going to be a pass first team. But knowing you've
got that kind of run game that they can offset
things is really important, especially now you probably have to
win every game down the road or down the stretch,
it seems like, and they do seem poised to do that.
They just put a lot of points in a lot
of yards on a really good Baltimore defense. They get

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by Buffalo this week, and it gets really interesting, it.

Speaker 4 (01:33:48):
Does it does, then it's game on. They they need
they need to continue to build upon what they've done
the last couple of weeks. On defense. They they actually
like one after Lamar Jackson on Thanksgiving Night. Can that
be a template moving forward? If you have guys who
can't cover, and we've seen their coverage issues a linebacker,
can they just have those guys blitz the quarterback instead.

Speaker 19 (01:34:10):
I do think we're gonna see more of that. I
think that was kind of a unique thing where they knew.
I think everyone knows that Lamar is not one hundred percent,
and they felt like that was a good plan.

Speaker 10 (01:34:21):
I don't know if blitzing Josh Allen is.

Speaker 19 (01:34:23):
The way to go this week, but the fact that
Al Golden feels more comfortable calling those blitzes and that
he knows he can put more on the plate of
these young guys that the pass rush has been lacking
all year, and that's a way to spark it. It's
not just bringing linebackers, it's bringing corners, it's bringing safeties.
They're really mixing things up, and I don't know that

(01:34:44):
you're going to see it that much this week. Like
I said against Josh Allen, he's not a guy that
you want to try to flush from the pocket with
the blitz. But I do think the final few games
of the season we are going to see Al Golden
lean more.

Speaker 17 (01:34:54):
Into that aggressive approach with the blitz.

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Bearcats open as a point and a half dog against
Xavier Tomorrow night in the Skyline Chilly Crossdown shoot out, Terarn.
How are we on time? Right now? Got about six minutes?

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We have three people waiting on hold? We could give
each person, you say, two minutes, about two minutes? Yet
two minutes, David? Your two minutes starts right now?

Speaker 12 (01:38:54):
Hi, David, Well, what's happening to my man.

Speaker 4 (01:38:58):
Sitting here doing a talk show? How about yourself?

Speaker 12 (01:39:01):
I gotta tell you you're my favorite. I like calling
every once in a while when I get fired up.
My son tells me not to do it. He's a
big fan of yours too.

Speaker 4 (01:39:08):
That's kind of you, guys.

Speaker 12 (01:39:08):
I'm gonna just ask you one question. I am a
UC die Hard. When is the finger gonna get pointed
at John Cunningham?

Speaker 4 (01:39:15):
I think it already has been. I think if you
ask most fans.

Speaker 12 (01:39:19):
I just don't we just we keep accepting mediocrity and
our athletic directors.

Speaker 10 (01:39:24):
Prior to that pop coins.

Speaker 4 (01:39:25):
I forget the guy who was after that Mike Thomas.

Speaker 12 (01:39:27):
They thought big and we're We've got a great program,
we've got great facilities.

Speaker 18 (01:39:32):
I just it's driving.

Speaker 14 (01:39:33):
Well.

Speaker 4 (01:39:33):
I guess the question I would have for you is
fingers from whom like fingers from the board, the fingers
from I think for the cat I think well, I
can't speak for the big money people. I could speak
to your rank and file fan, and I think many
are looking at John Cunningham going Okay, we're not nuts
about your football coach, we're not nuts about your men's

(01:39:55):
basketball coach. And you've got to be good, good, really
good in at least one and right now they're not
really good at either, and so yet I think most
are looking at John Cunningham wondering if if they do
move on from either In Scott Sadderfield's going to be
back next year, But is this the ad we want hiring?
Who's next?

Speaker 18 (01:40:15):
Well I feel a little bit better.

Speaker 5 (01:40:16):
Thank you for the the feedback, but you know.

Speaker 12 (01:40:20):
Yeah, I give Wes one more year, but I Caderfield
He's I'm done.

Speaker 4 (01:40:25):
Yeah, I think David, thanks very much. I don't know
that after your team won seven games in this cycle
where there's a million openings that this is when you
want to jump in and need to go get a
new head coach. Now that said, I, I don't know
that finishing with seven wins is going to make anybody
feel like, you know what, Scott Sadafield is the guy.

(01:40:47):
I don't think anybody's gonna feel that way until they're
playoff team. And that's that's the goal right now. And
so as long as there's some level of unease, distrust,
discontent with both coaches in the two highest profile sports,
and this athletic director hired both. John Cunningham is a
good administrator, might raise a lot of money, a lot
of really good things. What fans care about most is

(01:41:08):
the success in those two sports. And when they're not
there and they're your coaches, yeah, the finger gets pointed
at you. I don't know how they feel the Bard
of Trustees feels about John cunning You have no idea,
but I hear it all the time from fans who wonder, like,
is this ad the guy who's going to kind of
help this these two major programs get get out of

(01:41:30):
the for lack of a better way of putting it,
malaise they have been in. I think it's fair. Uh, Mike,
your two minute starts now.

Speaker 10 (01:41:39):
Thank you, will You're welcome.

Speaker 13 (01:41:43):
Well, my two favorite NFL analyst, Steve Young, without question
in Craig Greg Kosel, who's done with the NFL films
for forty six years, so I think he knows what
he's talking about a little bit. I know you want
to talk about scharbur and I want to talk about
it too, but I think I'll wait till after this
weekend to give more jazz up about it. But I

(01:42:08):
listened to Greg COASLVI this morning for a bit, right
after right before my surgery, and he was talking about
how excellent the Packers are in the red zone. I
haven't looked up. I just whatever he says, I believe it.
He was just talking to me, talking to the audience
about how good Jordan Love is in the red zone.

(01:42:33):
Now he broke the red zone down, okay, into the
upper red zone and the lower red zone. Now, either
one of the red zone areas are difficult to play
zone defense. The lower red zone from ten yards in
you can't play zone defense. You have to play manda man,
there's not enough room to play zone right. So he

(01:42:56):
was talking about then he was talking about the Cowboys
and and uh, but back to the the Cowboys, by
the way, I'm taking them money line tonight, and I'm
taking Bengals money line too.

Speaker 4 (01:43:09):
On Sunday.

Speaker 13 (01:43:10):
I'm definitely taking money Bengals money line. So listen, then
Joe is back Jack and and Buffalo is gonna wish
he wasn't. But and the other line has gotten better.
But what what what? What dude was saying Cosell was saying,
mo was since you can't play man on a zone
in the in the lower red zone, you gotta play
man that. He's tired of seeing teams just settle for

(01:43:33):
jump balls.

Speaker 4 (01:43:35):
Yeah, jump balls in.

Speaker 13 (01:43:36):
The end zone. That's not a scheme, he said. The
teams that do well in the reds kone red zone
are more schematically oriented.

Speaker 14 (01:43:47):
Uh.

Speaker 13 (01:43:48):
He gave an example of will play the other day
with Green Bay where they had two wideouts on the
on the on the wide side of the field, stacked
sacked on the boundary side the short side. They had
more weight up, so when dobbs and and Watson broke
out at the tenth from the ten, they they crossed

(01:44:11):
each other, which caused the two DB's to have to
or or safety to have to switch. They had to switch.
The defenders had to switch because the guy's crisscrossed. And
when that happened, then Dobbs had it was just pitch
and catch because at that time then the defender is
on his inside shoulder. But we're thrown it outside to

(01:44:33):
the corner of the end zone. Not a jump ball.
It's just pitch and catch. But his point was be
schematically solid in that lower red zone. That's all I got.

Speaker 4 (01:44:43):
I appreciate the encapsulation of those radio segments. Mike, thank
you very much. Bob, you're two minute starts.

Speaker 11 (01:44:49):
Now, Well, I get me a bull report.

Speaker 4 (01:44:54):
It's Bill Cunningham. Hi. Bill, Oh, I.

Speaker 11 (01:44:57):
Heard you talking earlier about my relative, and I have
to say, I think he is in there for the
long term, so he's not going anywhere. And wets Miller
and Centerfield, both of those guys I hired when I

(01:45:17):
had had a little bit too much alcohol and at
the end of their tenure for less at the end
of this year, unless we make the NCAA tournament, and
I'll give Scott one more year with a new safely
center to see what he can do.

Speaker 13 (01:45:37):
But if, but.

Speaker 11 (01:45:38):
If it's no better than seven wins. Next year he's
gone as well, and we'll probably be able to hire
Luke fickleback.

Speaker 4 (01:45:45):
All right, likely Bill, it's it's uh, it's it's nice
of you to call the show on Bob's phone. Nice
to hear from you. We'll see, uh, we'll see in
the in the office next week.

Speaker 11 (01:45:52):
Okay, I'll be there, Moe, And thanks again for your time.

Speaker 4 (01:46:02):
It is twelve away from six. By the way, the
John Cunningham thing, like, I think there's a lot of
fans who are like, dude, this ad hired these two coaches.
These two coaches aren't winning enough. I think if you
stick with the ad long term, what you have to
wonder is an athletic director's primary function, more than anything else,
is to raise money. If somebody's not that popular, how

(01:46:26):
does he or she raise money. We never got to
the Steve Phillips audio Steve Phillips former Mets, gm MLB
network Taraen. We don't have time for that, fortunately. No,
So your effort to go dig up that audio I
have totally wasted. You could be honest, I'm not gonna

(01:46:47):
get mad at you. I wasted it, all right, And
maybe they can use it. Maybe they can use it. Yeah,
not the first thing I've wasted. We're done shows over
Bengals pep rally in our plays Tomorrow Friday Football Frenzy
at noon tomorrow. H We're at the Twin Peaks in
Westchester for the Tony and Mo Football Show. Have an

(01:47:09):
amazing night. Thanks to Tarrem Bland for producing and doing
stuff that I didn't even use. That's how good he
is there. We have so much stuff on this show
that some of the good stuff we we don't even
have time for. It's the cutting room floor. We have
to bump it. We have to go. Have a great night,
have a great weekend. This is ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports.

Speaker 8 (01:47:26):
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