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Untouchables. Touchables. Does it matter? A huge Bengals bargain is coming. And an answer to dumb Texas Tech question.
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
That is US five O five. This is ESPN fifteen thirty.
I'm a Leger. Thank you for listening. Hopefully you're having
an awesome Tuesday afternoon. I was again just sending a tweet.
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There's a lot unfolding here behind the scenes, a lot.
All of it is fine, all of it is okay.
A lot unfolding here behind the scenes. Switzerland and Columbia
have just started the second half of their match in Vancouver.
It is scoreless. We had a remarkable comeback earlier today
where Argentina came back from down two goals in the
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seventy ninth minute to beat Egypt. To this on the
heels of last night's See United States flop. There's no
other way of putting it. There's no other good way
to put it. It's a flop. It's a letdown. It
was an abject disappointment. It felt like all the momentum
of the last couple of weeks was put in reverse.
It felt a lot like the Cincinnati Reds set at
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the top of the show. US Soccer feels like the
Cincinnati Reds of global soccer. You're always hearing about potential.
You're always hearing about what's next. You're always hearing about
how in a couple of years it's gonna be so
much better. There's gonna be this great payoff to years
of waiting. It never comes. It never comes. We lose
in the round of sixteen. We get just absolutely dog
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walked by Belgium. The game is not really competitive. We
stand there and watch, and I could say we because
it's the United States. We stand there and watch. We
don't kick the ball to the guy that we move
mountains in order to get. We don't deliver a payoff.
For years with the Reds. It's the same thing, right, hey, potential,
here are the young guys. It's coming, It's gonna get better.
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Oh you just wait. The payoff never comes. It's the
exact same thing. I have the same feeling watching the
US match against Belgium as I have for years watching
the Reds. We're told to be patient, told to wait,
told better days are coming, better days on the r
on the horizon. The better days never come. And it
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feels like for all the advancements that soccer has made
in this country, for as much as there are folks
like myself who are watching and consuming that sport that
did not grow up with it. For as much as
it has a stranglehold on certain communities, when it comes
to kids in this country, it's the same. On the
global stage, no payoff the Cincinnati Reds of global soccer
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the United States. We have spent a lot of time
over the last couple of days discussing the Reds and
the trade deadline and the question about untouchables. Who are
you gonna trade? What are you gonna get back? And
to me, when you talk about trades, I'm always more
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concerned with who you're gonna get back. What are you
gonna get back? Is it gonna be valuable? The trade
deadline this year, if you look at the list of
players that they would be meaning the Reds would be
very willing to move on from Chances are you're not
seeing a lot of guys who are gonna net you
much in return. JJ Bledat may fetch something. Chances are
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probably not a lot. I do think Tyler Stevenson is
interesting because of Catcher. How many of them are gonna
be available? He is still serviceable, although his last two
offensive seasons I think had been profound disappointments. Everybody wants relievers,
and so maybe they can create some sort of bidding war.
But I don't know, man, I don't know that trading
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brock Burke is gonna net you a ton in return.
Trading Nicolodolo might. So the conversation about Ellie Dela Cruz
being an untouchable is to me a conversation about what
are you trying to accomplish at the trade deadline? Is
it just gets something in return for guys that you
really don't want. Okay, chances are whatever they get is
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not going to move the meter all that much. Or
is it to use the deadline to bring in the
most amount of talent possible. Well, that's where you start
to talk about Nick Lodolo. Nick Lodolo is often hurt,
but what he's healthy, he's pretty damn good. He's got
another year of team control, he's not uber expensive. There's
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still a lot of upside there. Then the conversation has
to continue to guys like maybe Hunter Green. Now, I
absolutely do believe this offseason there's a world where Hunter
Green gets traded. What happened with him this offseason, I
fear that it's opened even further. What was a growing
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rift between the player and the team. That goes back
to about a year ago. But he's going to have
to establish it's at least somewhat of a track record
of health. And if he does that, he's got a
pitch better than he did on Saturday. Who else can
we include? Nobody wants to trade Chase Burns. If you
want to say he should be untouchable, Cool, Sal Stuart Fine,
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Ellie Delacruz. Nobody wants to trade Ellie dela Cruz. We
all want the Reds to build a good team around
Ellie Delacruz, but making him untouchable is about moving on
from the guys who can get you the most in return. Now,
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you might argue that's not what you want to trade.
Deadline to be about. You want to hang on to Ellie.
They want to hang on to Nick, they want to
hang on the Hunter. Certainly want to hang on to Chase,
certainly want to hang on to Sal Stuart. But build
around them. Why should any of us believe that this
front office is capable of doing that? And to me,
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there's the ultimate frustration. You get tired of rebuilds, you
get tired of fire sales, but you also get tired
of watching the Reds not be able to take advantage
of the really good players they have. Joey Vado, to me,
is a pseudo tragic figure because he had this iconic
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Hall of Fame career in Cincinnati. He'll never be associated
with winning. That ain't his fault. By the way, in
the coming years, the Reds Hall of Fame is going
to be even more flooded with players who played really
well here, had good careers here, who didn't win here.
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Brandon Phillips is already in the Hall of Fame, Bronson
Arroyo is already in the Hall of Fame. And the
coming years, Jay Bruce, Johnny Quato, maybe further down the line,
a guy like a role as Chapman, perhaps a Todd Frazier,
Scott Rowland went into the Reds Hall of Fame or
went into the Hall of Fame after having played in Cincinnati.
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How many of those guys did the Reds win with.
So if it's hey make him an untouchable, you're listening
to offers for a guy who feels like you just
got here, who's a really good player, he is not
yet in that upper upper upper crust of Major leaguers
he's just not. But he's still really good, still an
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All star caliber player, amazingly fun to watch. I think
he has shown tremendous improvement in the field. Easy guy
to root for, does all the right things, wants to
play every single day, good good player. If you want
to make him untouchable, you're putting faith in a front
office that doesn't deserve it. That's frustrating if you if
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you want to take the untouchable tag away and let
teams throw offers at you, well, it sucks to have
to trade away a guy like Elle de la Cruz
when he's got years of team control. It stinks to
have to resort to that. Right, here's a guy we
want to build around, but we can't, so we have
to see if we could flip him for a lot
of talent like this. This is what comes with never winning.
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This is what comes with unending frustration and unending rebuilds.
This is what comes with just putting people like you
and I through the cycle that we just get churned
through time and again. This team should be competing for
something larger than third place in the National League Central.
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This team should be spending July doing something beyond just
trying to scratch and claw to get back to five hundred.
We should not even be having these conversations about whether
or it would make sense to make Ella dela Cruz available,
because they should have a team built or around him
and Sal Stewart and others that's contending for something. But
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the front office is inability to do that. Has this
at a place where we're actively debating the merits of
leaving the guy untouchable at the trade deadline. That is
not a statement against me or you or anybody else.
It is a damning indictment against this organization, and it
puts you and I as fans in a really hard place.
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Trade them, trade them, and get a lot for him,
a lot of potential, a lot of prospects, a lot
of guys who aren't going to help you win right now,
a lot of guys who are worth building around in
three or four years, and say goodbye to a beloved
player while he's still under team control. Or sit around
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and hope the Reds could do with Ellie what they
haven't been able to do with a lot of guys.
Let's build a good team around him. One of the
other I hate to say that it's beyond frustrating. Beyond frustrating.
I absolutely believe you can make compelling arguments for listening
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to trade offers for Ellie and some of those other guys.
I absolutely believe that it's more fun to talk about
building a better team around Ellie and those other guys.
But it is absolutely impossible to believe that the folks
right now in charge of building a good team around
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Ellie and those other guys are capable of doing so.
There is maybe not a more helpless place to be
as a fan than right there, right in that sweet spot,
right between all of those options. Trade them means another
rebuild means more prospects, means more uncertainty. Keep them means
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continue to watch the team waste them, because that's all
they've done at this point, and they haven't just done
it with Elie. Dela Cruz sixteen minutes after five o'clock,
five point three seven four nine, fifteen thirty is our
phone number. Bengals have some highly paid guys. They're about
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to have somebody in a couple of years who I
believe is going to be one of football's great bargains.
That is coming up, and we've got to answer a
dumb question from a guy from Texas Tech on ESPN
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Amarus Mimes made Pro Football Focuses all breakout team for
twenty twenty six. I'll let you go read the piece
if you want to. Amrius Mims, I think it's really
fun to think about the tier he could end up
on by the end of the season, and you know,
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going into year three, will do year three, then they'll
maybe pick up the fifth year team option. If they
do that, there's a chance that Marius Mimms will end
up being one of the great bargains in the NFL.
There's also a chance down the road is down the
road that he could be the guy that signs the
bengals next massive contract. We'll see. But like breakout Players
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for twenty twenty six, what I think could argue maybe
for Miles Murphy just based on how he finished the season.
Now I would I tap the brakes on that just
a little bit, only because there's such a large body
of work.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
That is.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
The best way to put it, you know, just very
uninspiring with Marius Mimms man like there's just there's a
He portrays himself as somebody who gets it. He has
had his rough moments on the field. That'll happen. But boy,
I have no offensive line play expert. But among like
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all the players they have, some of them have a
chance to be really good, some of whom you may
argue you have a chance to be Pro Bowl players.
I I don't know if there's a guy on the
team I'm more bullish on than the a Marius Mims,
which I'm sure is gonna make him really, really happy.
We gotta answer a dumb question from a Texas tech
guy coming up in just about twenty minutes. But first, Ian,
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you're on ESPN fifteen thirty Ian, good afternoon. How are you.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Hey? Brother?
Speaker 4 (14:43):
I'm just.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
Man that the ringer of the emotions that read put
me through. I'm gonna kick this short because it's just
beating my head into a wall. Basically twenty twelve, I was,
I think twenty and twenty nine. My birthday's May second.
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That last time the Reds were like, you wonder can
we advance here? You had queto batoing them And I'm
forty three. Now are we gonna do that again?
Speaker 4 (15:22):
And do you think it's.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
Gonna be any different if they just don't talent, I
don't think so. They don't need to do that. They
need to trade themselves out of baseball. I mean, I'm
freaking serious, dude. I'm so stick and tired of this
game that they try to play this conservative whatever you
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want to call it. You know, I used to work
at count Country Club Circuit two thousand and four. I've
seen all those guys that, you know, would be the
ones that just put it give it back back to
the to the family that owned the soccer team, and
give it back to them. Man, they they could probably
do better. And to end the call, I'm just saying
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that there should be some kind of penalty for ownerships
that that play these kind of games where they don't
really really try to play. That's like that show Last
One laughing. You know, you try to just walk away
and don't really get involved in the game, You're gonna
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get a red yellow card, you know what I mean. Like,
it ain't cool, man, I'm tired of it, but uh,
you get the point. I'm just running around a circle.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Yeah, No, I mean that's that's that's what frustration makes
you do, right, I mean, that's then that's that's there's there,
it's helpless it's helplessness, there's there's frustration that that like
leads to helplessness because like we've we've watched them cycle
through managers. Right two years ago was David Bell's fault, okay,
and and and we've we've seen changes with the structure
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of the front office in baseball operations, and yet the
results have been very limiting. And like I hear from
people who go, look, it's a bad season. It happens.
It's not. It's not. Depending on the length of your
fandom or maybe the depth of your fandoms, it's not.
It's you know you mentioned twenty twelve. Twenty twelve, they
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blow the lead to the Giants. They haven't finished higher
than third place since they haven't finished higher than third
place in a five team division since twenty twelve. It's
the years of ninety plus losses. It's the tees of
twenty twenty one, it's the tees of twenty twenty three.
It's the unwillingness to make the twenty twenty one or
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twenty twenty three teams markedly better at the deadline when
they had chances to make the postseason. It's the off
seasons where it feels like they make some improvements, but
they never really address some of their biggest issues. It's
constantly being told that better times are ahead. It's constantly
being asked for patients and never getting a payoff. And
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like twenty twenty three, I keep talking about this, twenty
twenty three, it felt like payoff is coming. There might
be some some rough roads in front of us, but
payoff is coming. Look at the collection of young players, Well,
look at him. The collection of players they have from
that team still on the team this year are forty
one and forty eight.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
Hey, I got one one last thing. What I know?
Speaker 4 (18:27):
You know this?
Speaker 5 (18:28):
What did they get for Frazier and what did they
get for Queto? I remember it being sorely disappointing.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah, so for it was not for Johnny Quato. It
was three pitchers. Brandon Finnigan, Yeah, that was Cody Reid,
and there was another guy because he had really really
white hair. Uh it was. It was three pitchers and
none of them amounted to too much of anything. Todd
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Frazier would have been Jose Parrazza and Scott Schebler. Scott
Schebler gave him one pretty good year, hit thirty home runs.
There may have been other guys, but I know is
Parazza and Schebler. But like you know, that's going back
eleven years. You know, let's let's make it about when
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they traded Sonny Gray, Juhanio Suarez, Jesse Winker, Yea, Luis Castillo,
Tucker Barnhardt, Tyler Mallley, the collective haul from those trades.
Maybe the jury is still out on Noelve Marte. Okay,
Spencer Steeer has been a nice player, all right, fine,
what else? Who else? What else is there?
Speaker 5 (19:44):
The problem is game ownership. I don't care that the
Sun's taking over whatever. Dude, figure it out. This is ridiculous,
that's all I got.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
I mean, Ian, you're right. I mean, it's the common denominator.
You're right, You're one hundred percent correct. It's okay, you know,
blow out Nick Krawl, blowout Brad Metter, clean house in
the baseball ops department. It's the same ownership, and that's inescapable.
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Like ownership has a win loss record. Ownership has a
track record that they haven't won anything. So Okay, you
don't trust Nick Kraw, Fine, I'm with you. But then
do you trust the people who run the team to
install the right people to deliver a better payoff than
Nick krawl is delivered. I don't know that you could
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find anybody who would say the answer is yes. Sports
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tech guy coming up on ESPN fifteen thirty.
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to ten tonight, three game series. All three night games
against the Phills Reds are two and one. They took
a three game series back in May against the Phillies.
Your starting lineup for tonight stand by here. It is
Elie Dela Cruz at short, Sal Stewart's at first, pladeis
and left. Suarez plays third, Nathaniel low DH's Spencer Steers
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at second base key Brian Hayes rehab assignment from High
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against the Washington wild Things. Argentina in the World Cup
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minute to beat Egypt by a score of three to two.
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Right now, Switzerland, you know I'm Swiss. There should be
the country I'm rooting for more than any blood in
my body. I have more Swiss than anybody else. Years
ago I did that twenty three and me thing, which
I think is legit more Swiss than any other nationality.
So go Switzerland. Right now, my Swiss team and Columbia
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are a deadlocked AD zero in the seventy ninth minute.
One day I will go to Switzerland. I'm told there's
a brewery there the Egger Brewery could be family members.
There might be like this in Switzerland, this whole like
Egger family brewing empire that I haven't financially been able
to take advantage of. So I got to tap into it.
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It's a win.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
We had a dumb question by a Texas tech person
media member, local personality at Big twelve Media Days today
that I will, for the benefit of him and the
audience at large, answer in just about ten minutes. Right now.
I got about three minutes. Mike, who has been enjoying
every second of this show today is on ESPN fifteen
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thirty high.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Mike, Fine, love, thank you, good show as usual.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Are you sure so you're Swiss?
Speaker 4 (23:33):
That means you must make a kick butt fon due.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
I've never made fondue and I've only had fon due
once in my life.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
It's wonderful.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah. Well, I went to find went to fon do
at what was at the Melting Pot many many, many,
many many years ago. It just it felt like a
lot of work to dip some some bread and cheese.
Kind of good.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
It's typical Cincinnati. Okay, all right, Am I wrong?
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Typical Cincinnati? Like I go to a restaurant, put a
meal in front of me, don't. I don't. I don't
want to have to do any work here. We're gonna
dip some strawberries and chocolate. Why no, I'm good. I'd
rather eat a sandwich.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
You should and put them in your mouth for you.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Well, if I'm going to a restaurant, yes, I would
like some service. Yes. And if I'm sitting in a
if I'm going to pay a lot of money for
a meal some bread dipped and cheese, just ain't doing it.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
So in other words, you ain't gonna sit down at
a table in New England and eat cracked crab with
you got to crack the crab.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
No, that's different, because that's well, I like crab.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
I love to bring up these inn Has.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Anybody ever said to like, Hey, another couple, let's go
get fond due? No, No, nobody, nobody. I mean, it's
it's not nineteen eighty six. That strikes me as a
very eighties ninety You think heart, we're good hard passing, hard,
pass on the fond.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Day big and Switzerland Big, they invented it.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
They invented fondue.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
That's the best of my knowledge.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yeah, and then by the way, you know, I remember
it wasn't cheap either, but I got to a nice
restaurant and I got it the nice restaurant. As I'm
I'm dipping some some some berries in in vanilla cream,
I'm all.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Right, Oh god, you're a trip man. Hey. Uh so
that's the salon is eighty years old today. You know
how old that makes me feel. I'm seventy four. He's
got me by. So I was shocked when I heard
that today. I knew he was older, but I didn't think.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
He was eighty.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Rocky's eighty.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Huh Yeah, that incredible. He's probably a great shape too,
he probably, yes, thank Yeah, Okay, let's look at this.
H well, I want to get it.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
I got like I got like ninety seconds here. We
wasted too much time on fondue.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Yeah, we did, my dad, I'll just do the untouchable
thing real quick. If I'm if they clear a house
and I'm running the show, everybody's available. Everybody talk to me.
Talk to me about Elie, talk to me about this Steward,
talk to me about this one, that one Hunter Green.
I don't care talk to me about all of them,
because anybody is extendable because Ellie's gonna end up in
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LA in a couple of years if you don't get
him to stay here. And why would a lot of
these guys even want to stay here play for crap
team tonight, have a chance to even get in to
get a ring. Ha ha, that's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Well that's the thing, like, right, I mean, if you,
if you, if you acknowledge and most of us do,
that Ellie is not going to be here at the
end of the twenty twenty nine season, then you've got
to You've got to make a full faith effort to
win while you have him. That hasn't happened. It hasn't happened.
If you're not winning while you got him, then he
shouldn't be untouchable. Mike, I got a run, man, Thanks
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so much.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
My pleasure, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Fun dude is just bad, all right. We got to
answer a dumb question from a Texas tech media personality.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Next Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty Traffic from.
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Speaker 2 (27:13):
A quick programming note. I am off tomorrow, but it's
not a vacation day. That's all I can say. I
know it's not a suspension I am not hosting the
show tomorrow afternoon. I have a work commitment that interferes
with the show that is never supposed to happen unless
there are extreme circumstances, and I guess tomorrow is an
extreme circumstance. So off tomorrow, Chad Brendel fills in. I
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am back on Thursday, and then load management season continues
next week. Reds and Philly is coming up tonight at
GABP Andrew Abbott and Zach Wheeler seven to ten, tonight's
first pitch on a seven hundred WLW. The only thing
between now and August third that can happen are for
players to either enhance or decrease their own value, or
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for the Reds as a team to dramatically change the
conversation about it. And after eighty eight games, I could
certainly agree with anybody who believes that simply is not
going to happen. Earlier, we chatted with Scott Springer from
Big twelve media Days, and as you might expect, lots
of questions, lots of questions about Texas Tech. Brendan soarsby
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that whole thing, all the schools conspiring against Texas Tech lawsuits.
It's been a crazy offseason in the Big Twelve. Here
is an exchange from earlier today in Frisco. The U
SEE contingent, by the way, is going to talk tomorrow.
This is an interaction between Texas Tech media personality Sean
Dillon and Bright You or Mark, the commissioner of the
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Big twelve, tarn go ahead and play the audio commission.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
Texas Tech got fined over tortiitillas and tortillas were banned
out righting O issue paddles broken no ways to make
a rule has a tradition nick exemptionho Soortsbe never played
the snap for the Red Raiders. Betwelve sued them anyway,
while Cincinnati hasn't been yet touched. You're selling greater than twelve.
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Why should Texas Tech fans believe it?
Speaker 4 (29:13):
Could you see?
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Let me come closer to you, stand up, ask that
question again and I'm going to give you the answer
I want to give you. So go ahead.
Speaker 6 (29:21):
Texas Tech got fined for titatios and tortillas were banned outright.
OSU has had paddles that were given a noise maker
exemption back in twenty twelve. Starsbe never played snap for
the Red rederators, and yet there is a lawsuit Cincinnati
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has yet to be touched. You're selling greater than twelve.
Why should Texas Tech fans believe them?
Speaker 2 (29:52):
No, I didn't say greater than twelve. You misquoted me.
I said we're going forward is sixteen strong. And that's
my answer to your question. But thank you for that question.
Appreciating all right, So there you go. That's brett Or
Mark and uh Texas Tech media personality Sean Dillon. So
brett Or Mark really didn't answer the question. I will
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answer it for him, so you hurt him. Reference Texas
toward Tech, Texas Tech and tortillas and Oklahoma State and
their paddles. Now at Texas Tech, U see played there
two years ago. Its two years ago, its two years ago,
and every time Texas Tech scored, the students threw tortillas
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onto the field. It's fun, it's kitschy, it's probably kind
of harmless. But you're not supposed to be able to
throw stuff on the field. And so the Big twelve
put in this rule that said you can't throw tortillas
on the field, and so either was some pushback to it.
So then they said, well, we're just not gonna let
you bring tortillas into the game. Why, because you can't
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throw stuff onto the field. The Oklahoma State paddles are noisy.
They make a lot of noise. The students at Oklahoma State,
to the best of my knowledge, were not throwing them
onto the field. Not that hard to figure out. In
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terms of Texas Tech and Cincinnati, he said, Cincinnati hasn't
yet been touched because Cincinnati hasn't done anything wrong. If
I'm proven wrong, fine, This Brendan Sowersby story has been
unfolding for the better part of three months, nearly three months.
At no point has an official NCAA investigation been launched,
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has a notice of allegation been sent out, and the
NCUBA Committee on Infractions doesn't have that much to do
these days. Nobody is suing, you see, because UC is
not trying to play a guy that would be deemed
in a eligible because of a rule that he broke.
Had Cincinnati, had Brendan Soresby still been at UC, and
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he gambles, he gets suspended, the school thensues he plays
for UC. I guarantee you, I guarantee you all the
other big twelve schools would have griped and there would
be a lawsuit, and the intention of the lawsuit is
we want to be able to enforce our own conference rules,
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which the judge in Lubbing Texas said the n c DOUBLEA,
which has rules against gambling, can enforce its own rules.
The reason why U SEE isn't being touched is a
nobody has accused you See, and by nobody I mean
the n cnable A of any wrongdoing. U SE is
not trying to play a player who's ineligible. They have
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ensued the NCAA to get a player eligible despite the
fact that the NCNAA says he can't be eligible. The
lawsuit that that Texas Tech is involved in with the
other conference members is about the Big twelve looking to
enforce its own rules, which the NCAA was told in
court you can't. This should not be that hard to
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figure out. And I sound frustrated because I am, because
I granted not here, but time it again, it's like, well,
how come nothing for UC? Nothing for UC because nobody
has proven that U SEE has done anything wrong. The
only people who have said publicly that you See did
anything wrong A were acting on behalf of Brendan Soresby
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and b provided absolutely no evidence or proof that you see,
did anything wrong. Had they? It is my belief that
with not that many NCUBA rules to break that the
NCAA would have a satellite office in Cincinnati. And I'm
stealing that verbiage from Shad Brendle, they'd have a satellite
office in Cincinnati investigating uce such a thing has yet
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to happen. It seems like, and maybe I'll be proven wrong.
It seems like that whatever questions the NCAA lobbed at
UC coaches, the administrators, whoever those answers were, to the
NCAA satisfaction. That's why the school's not being touched. This
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should not be frankly, cannot be that hard to figure out,
Ain't that hard man? Speaking of Chad Brenda, he hosts
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There's a lot unfolding here behind the scenes, a lot.
All of it is fine, all of it is okay.
A lot unfolding here behind the scenes. Switzerland and Columbia
have just started the second half of their match in Vancouver.
It is scoreless. We had a remarkable comeback earlier today
where Argentina came back from down two goals in the
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seventy ninth minute to beat Egypt. To this on the
heels of last night's See United States flop. There's no
other way of putting it. There's no other good way
to put it. It's a flop. It's a letdown. It
was an abject disappointment. It felt like all the momentum
of the last couple of weeks was put in reverse.
It felt a lot like the Cincinnati Reds set at
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the top of the show. US Soccer feels like the
Cincinnati Reds of global soccer. You're always hearing about potential.
You're always hearing about what's next. You're always hearing about
how in a couple of years it's gonna be so
much better. There's gonna be this great payoff to years
of waiting. It never comes. It never comes. We lose
in the round of sixteen. We get just absolutely dog
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walked by Belgium. The game is not really competitive. We
stand there and watch, and I could say we because
it's the United States. We stand there and watch. We
don't kick the ball to the guy that we move
mountains in order to get. We don't deliver a payoff.
For years with the Reds. It's the same thing, right, hey, potential,
here are the young guys. It's coming, It's gonna get better.
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Oh you just wait. The payoff never comes. It's the
exact same thing. I have the same feeling watching the
US match against Belgium as I have for years watching
the Reds. We're told to be patient, told to wait,
told better days are coming, better days on the r
on the horizon. The better days never come. And it
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feels like for all the advancements that soccer has made
in this country, for as much as there are folks
like myself who are watching and consuming that sport that
did not grow up with it. For as much as
it has a stranglehold on certain communities, when it comes
to kids in this country, it's the same. On the
global stage, no payoff the Cincinnati Reds of global soccer
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the United States. We have spent a lot of time
over the last couple of days discussing the Reds and
the trade deadline and the question about untouchables. Who are
you gonna trade? What are you gonna get back? And
to me, when you talk about trades, I'm always more
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concerned with who you're gonna get back. What are you
gonna get back? Is it gonna be valuable? The trade
deadline this year, if you look at the list of
players that they would be meaning the Reds would be
very willing to move on from Chances are you're not
seeing a lot of guys who are gonna net you
much in return. JJ Bledat may fetch something. Chances are
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probably not a lot. I do think Tyler Stevenson is
interesting because of Catcher. How many of them are gonna
be available? He is still serviceable, although his last two
offensive seasons I think had been profound disappointments. Everybody wants relievers,
and so maybe they can create some sort of bidding war.
But I don't know, man, I don't know that trading
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brock Burke is gonna net you a ton in return.
Trading Nicolodolo might. So the conversation about Ellie Dela Cruz
being an untouchable is to me a conversation about what
are you trying to accomplish at the trade deadline? Is
it just gets something in return for guys that you
really don't want. Okay, chances are whatever they get is
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not going to move the meter all that much. Or
is it to use the deadline to bring in the
most amount of talent possible. Well, that's where you start
to talk about Nick Lodolo. Nick Lodolo is often hurt,
but what he's healthy, he's pretty damn good. He's got
another year of team control, he's not uber expensive. There's
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still a lot of upside there. Then the conversation has
to continue to guys like maybe Hunter Green. Now, I
absolutely do believe this offseason there's a world where Hunter
Green gets traded. What happened with him this offseason, I
fear that it's opened even further. What was a growing
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rift between the player and the team. That goes back
to about a year ago. But he's going to have
to establish it's at least somewhat of a track record
of health. And if he does that, he's got a
pitch better than he did on Saturday. Who else can
we include? Nobody wants to trade Chase Burns. If you
want to say he should be untouchable, Cool, Sal Stuart Fine,
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Ellie Delacruz. Nobody wants to trade Ellie dela Cruz. We
all want the Reds to build a good team around
Ellie Delacruz, but making him untouchable is about moving on
from the guys who can get you the most in return. Now,
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you might argue that's not what you want to trade.
Deadline to be about. You want to hang on to Ellie.
They want to hang on to Nick, they want to
hang on the Hunter. Certainly want to hang on to Chase,
certainly want to hang on to Sal Stuart. But build
around them. Why should any of us believe that this
front office is capable of doing that? And to me,
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there's the ultimate frustration. You get tired of rebuilds, you
get tired of fire sales, but you also get tired
of watching the Reds not be able to take advantage
of the really good players they have. Joey Vado, to me,
is a pseudo tragic figure because he had this iconic
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Hall of Fame career in Cincinnati. He'll never be associated
with winning. That ain't his fault. By the way, in
the coming years, the Reds Hall of Fame is going
to be even more flooded with players who played really
well here, had good careers here, who didn't win here.
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Brandon Phillips is already in the Hall of Fame, Bronson
Arroyo is already in the Hall of Fame. And the
coming years, Jay Bruce, Johnny Quato, maybe further down the line,
a guy like a role as Chapman, perhaps a Todd Frazier,
Scott Rowland went into the Reds Hall of Fame or
went into the Hall of Fame after having played in Cincinnati.
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How many of those guys did the Reds win with.
So if it's hey make him an untouchable, you're listening
to offers for a guy who feels like you just
got here, who's a really good player, he is not
yet in that upper upper upper crust of Major leaguers
he's just not. But he's still really good, still an
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All star caliber player, amazingly fun to watch. I think
he has shown tremendous improvement in the field. Easy guy
to root for, does all the right things, wants to
play every single day, good good player. If you want
to make him untouchable, you're putting faith in a front
office that doesn't deserve it. That's frustrating if you if
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you want to take the untouchable tag away and let
teams throw offers at you, well, it sucks to have
to trade away a guy like Elle de la Cruz
when he's got years of team control. It stinks to
have to resort to that. Right, here's a guy we
want to build around, but we can't, so we have
to see if we could flip him for a lot
of talent like this. This is what comes with never winning.
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This is what comes with unending frustration and unending rebuilds.
This is what comes with just putting people like you
and I through the cycle that we just get churned
through time and again. This team should be competing for
something larger than third place in the National League Central.
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This team should be spending July doing something beyond just
trying to scratch and claw to get back to five hundred.
We should not even be having these conversations about whether
or it would make sense to make Ella dela Cruz available,
because they should have a team built or around him
and Sal Stewart and others that's contending for something. But
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the front office is inability to do that. Has this
at a place where we're actively debating the merits of
leaving the guy untouchable at the trade deadline. That is
not a statement against me or you or anybody else.
It is a damning indictment against this organization, and it
puts you and I as fans in a really hard place.
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Trade them, trade them, and get a lot for him,
a lot of potential, a lot of prospects, a lot
of guys who aren't going to help you win right now,
a lot of guys who are worth building around in
three or four years, and say goodbye to a beloved
player while he's still under team control. Or sit around
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and hope the Reds could do with Ellie what they
haven't been able to do with a lot of guys.
Let's build a good team around him. One of the
other I hate to say that it's beyond frustrating. Beyond frustrating.
I absolutely believe you can make compelling arguments for listening
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to trade offers for Ellie and some of those other guys.
I absolutely believe that it's more fun to talk about
building a better team around Ellie and those other guys.
But it is absolutely impossible to believe that the folks
right now in charge of building a good team around
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Ellie and those other guys are capable of doing so.
There is maybe not a more helpless place to be
as a fan than right there, right in that sweet spot,
right between all of those options. Trade them means another
rebuild means more prospects, means more uncertainty. Keep them means
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continue to watch the team waste them, because that's all
they've done at this point, and they haven't just done
it with Elie. Dela Cruz sixteen minutes after five o'clock,
five point three seven four nine, fifteen thirty is our
phone number. Bengals have some highly paid guys. They're about
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to have somebody in a couple of years who I
believe is going to be one of football's great bargains.
That is coming up, and we've got to answer a
dumb question from a guy from Texas Tech on ESPN
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Amarus Mimes made Pro Football Focuses all breakout team for
twenty twenty six. I'll let you go read the piece
if you want to. Amrius Mims, I think it's really
fun to think about the tier he could end up
on by the end of the season, and you know,
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going into year three, will do year three, then they'll
maybe pick up the fifth year team option. If they
do that, there's a chance that Marius Mimms will end
up being one of the great bargains in the NFL.
There's also a chance down the road is down the
road that he could be the guy that signs the
bengals next massive contract. We'll see. But like breakout Players
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for twenty twenty six, what I think could argue maybe
for Miles Murphy just based on how he finished the season.
Now I would I tap the brakes on that just
a little bit, only because there's such a large body
of work.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
That is.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
The best way to put it, you know, just very
uninspiring with Marius Mimms man like there's just there's a
He portrays himself as somebody who gets it. He has
had his rough moments on the field. That'll happen. But boy,
I have no offensive line play expert. But among like
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all the players they have, some of them have a
chance to be really good, some of whom you may
argue you have a chance to be Pro Bowl players.
I I don't know if there's a guy on the
team I'm more bullish on than the a Marius Mims,
which I'm sure is gonna make him really, really happy.
We gotta answer a dumb question from a Texas tech
guy coming up in just about twenty minutes. But first, Ian,
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you're on ESPN fifteen thirty Ian, good afternoon. How are you.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Hey? Brother?
Speaker 4 (14:43):
I'm just.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
Man that the ringer of the emotions that read put
me through. I'm gonna kick this short because it's just
beating my head into a wall. Basically twenty twelve, I was,
I think twenty and twenty nine. My birthday's May second.
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That last time the Reds were like, you wonder can
we advance here? You had queto batoing them And I'm
forty three. Now are we gonna do that again?
Speaker 4 (15:22):
And do you think it's.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
Gonna be any different if they just don't talent, I
don't think so. They don't need to do that. They
need to trade themselves out of baseball. I mean, I'm
freaking serious, dude. I'm so stick and tired of this
game that they try to play this conservative whatever you
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want to call it. You know, I used to work
at count Country Club Circuit two thousand and four. I've
seen all those guys that, you know, would be the
ones that just put it give it back back to
the to the family that owned the soccer team, and
give it back to them. Man, they they could probably
do better. And to end the call, I'm just saying
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that there should be some kind of penalty for ownerships
that that play these kind of games where they don't
really really try to play. That's like that show Last
One laughing. You know, you try to just walk away
and don't really get involved in the game, You're gonna
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get a red yellow card, you know what I mean. Like,
it ain't cool, man, I'm tired of it, but uh,
you get the point. I'm just running around a circle.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Yeah, No, I mean that's that's that's what frustration makes
you do, right, I mean, that's then that's that's there's there,
it's helpless it's helplessness, there's there's frustration that that like
leads to helplessness because like we've we've watched them cycle
through managers. Right two years ago was David Bell's fault, okay,
and and and we've we've seen changes with the structure
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of the front office in baseball operations, and yet the
results have been very limiting. And like I hear from
people who go, look, it's a bad season. It happens.
It's not. It's not. Depending on the length of your
fandom or maybe the depth of your fandoms, it's not.
It's you know you mentioned twenty twelve. Twenty twelve, they
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blow the lead to the Giants. They haven't finished higher
than third place since they haven't finished higher than third
place in a five team division since twenty twelve. It's
the years of ninety plus losses. It's the tees of
twenty twenty one, it's the tees of twenty twenty three.
It's the unwillingness to make the twenty twenty one or
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twenty twenty three teams markedly better at the deadline when
they had chances to make the postseason. It's the off
seasons where it feels like they make some improvements, but
they never really address some of their biggest issues. It's
constantly being told that better times are ahead. It's constantly
being asked for patients and never getting a payoff. And
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like twenty twenty three, I keep talking about this, twenty
twenty three, it felt like payoff is coming. There might
be some some rough roads in front of us, but
payoff is coming. Look at the collection of young players, Well,
look at him. The collection of players they have from
that team still on the team this year are forty
one and forty eight.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
Hey, I got one one last thing. What I know?
Speaker 4 (18:27):
You know this?
Speaker 5 (18:28):
What did they get for Frazier and what did they
get for Queto? I remember it being sorely disappointing.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah, so for it was not for Johnny Quato. It
was three pitchers. Brandon Finnigan, Yeah, that was Cody Reid,
and there was another guy because he had really really
white hair. Uh it was. It was three pitchers and
none of them amounted to too much of anything. Todd
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Frazier would have been Jose Parrazza and Scott Schebler. Scott
Schebler gave him one pretty good year, hit thirty home runs.
There may have been other guys, but I know is
Parazza and Schebler. But like you know, that's going back
eleven years. You know, let's let's make it about when
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they traded Sonny Gray, Juhanio Suarez, Jesse Winker, Yea, Luis Castillo,
Tucker Barnhardt, Tyler Mallley, the collective haul from those trades.
Maybe the jury is still out on Noelve Marte. Okay,
Spencer Steeer has been a nice player, all right, fine,
what else? Who else? What else is there?
Speaker 5 (19:44):
The problem is game ownership. I don't care that the
Sun's taking over whatever. Dude, figure it out. This is ridiculous,
that's all I got.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
I mean, Ian, you're right. I mean, it's the common denominator.
You're right, You're one hundred percent correct. It's okay, you know,
blow out Nick Krawl, blowout Brad Metter, clean house in
the baseball ops department. It's the same ownership, and that's inescapable.
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Like ownership has a win loss record. Ownership has a
track record that they haven't won anything. So Okay, you
don't trust Nick Kraw, Fine, I'm with you. But then
do you trust the people who run the team to
install the right people to deliver a better payoff than
Nick krawl is delivered. I don't know that you could
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find anybody who would say the answer is yes. Sports
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Your starting lineup for tonight stand by here. It is
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Right now, Switzerland, you know I'm Swiss. There should be
the country I'm rooting for more than any blood in
my body. I have more Swiss than anybody else. Years
ago I did that twenty three and me thing, which
I think is legit more Swiss than any other nationality.
So go Switzerland. Right now, my Swiss team and Columbia
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are a deadlocked AD zero in the seventy ninth minute.
One day I will go to Switzerland. I'm told there's
a brewery there the Egger Brewery could be family members.
There might be like this in Switzerland, this whole like
Egger family brewing empire that I haven't financially been able
to take advantage of. So I got to tap into it.
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It's a win.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
We had a dumb question by a Texas tech person
media member, local personality at Big twelve Media Days today
that I will, for the benefit of him and the
audience at large, answer in just about ten minutes. Right now.
I got about three minutes. Mike, who has been enjoying
every second of this show today is on ESPN fifteen
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thirty high.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Mike, Fine, love, thank you, good show as usual.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Are you sure so you're Swiss?
Speaker 4 (23:33):
That means you must make a kick butt fon due.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
I've never made fondue and I've only had fon due
once in my life.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
It's wonderful.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah. Well, I went to find went to fon do
at what was at the Melting Pot many many, many,
many many years ago. It just it felt like a
lot of work to dip some some bread and cheese.
Kind of good.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
It's typical Cincinnati. Okay, all right, Am I wrong?
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Typical Cincinnati? Like I go to a restaurant, put a
meal in front of me, don't. I don't. I don't
want to have to do any work here. We're gonna
dip some strawberries and chocolate. Why no, I'm good. I'd
rather eat a sandwich.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
You should and put them in your mouth for you.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Well, if I'm going to a restaurant, yes, I would
like some service. Yes. And if I'm sitting in a
if I'm going to pay a lot of money for
a meal some bread dipped and cheese, just ain't doing it.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
So in other words, you ain't gonna sit down at
a table in New England and eat cracked crab with
you got to crack the crab.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
No, that's different, because that's well, I like crab.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
I love to bring up these inn Has.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Anybody ever said to like, Hey, another couple, let's go
get fond due? No, No, nobody, nobody. I mean, it's
it's not nineteen eighty six. That strikes me as a
very eighties ninety You think heart, we're good hard passing, hard,
pass on the fond.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Day big and Switzerland Big, they invented it.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
They invented fondue.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
That's the best of my knowledge.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yeah, and then by the way, you know, I remember
it wasn't cheap either, but I got to a nice
restaurant and I got it the nice restaurant. As I'm
I'm dipping some some some berries in in vanilla cream,
I'm all.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Right, Oh god, you're a trip man. Hey. Uh so
that's the salon is eighty years old today. You know
how old that makes me feel. I'm seventy four. He's
got me by. So I was shocked when I heard
that today. I knew he was older, but I didn't think.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
He was eighty.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Rocky's eighty.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Huh Yeah, that incredible. He's probably a great shape too,
he probably, yes, thank Yeah, Okay, let's look at this.
H well, I want to get it.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
I got like I got like ninety seconds here. We
wasted too much time on fondue.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Yeah, we did, my dad, I'll just do the untouchable
thing real quick. If I'm if they clear a house
and I'm running the show, everybody's available. Everybody talk to me.
Talk to me about Elie, talk to me about this Steward,
talk to me about this one, that one Hunter Green.
I don't care talk to me about all of them,
because anybody is extendable because Ellie's gonna end up in
(26:21):
LA in a couple of years if you don't get
him to stay here. And why would a lot of
these guys even want to stay here play for crap
team tonight, have a chance to even get in to
get a ring. Ha ha, that's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Well that's the thing, like, right, I mean, if you,
if you, if you acknowledge and most of us do,
that Ellie is not going to be here at the
end of the twenty twenty nine season, then you've got
to You've got to make a full faith effort to
win while you have him. That hasn't happened. It hasn't happened.
If you're not winning while you got him, then he
shouldn't be untouchable. Mike, I got a run, man, Thanks
(26:55):
so much.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
My pleasure, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Fun dude is just bad, all right. We got to
answer a dumb question from a Texas tech media personality.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Next Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty Traffic from.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
The UC Health Traffic Center.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
A quick programming note. I am off tomorrow, but it's
not a vacation day. That's all I can say. I
know it's not a suspension I am not hosting the
show tomorrow afternoon. I have a work commitment that interferes
with the show that is never supposed to happen unless
there are extreme circumstances, and I guess tomorrow is an
extreme circumstance. So off tomorrow, Chad Brendel fills in. I
(27:37):
am back on Thursday, and then load management season continues
next week. Reds and Philly is coming up tonight at
GABP Andrew Abbott and Zach Wheeler seven to ten, tonight's
first pitch on a seven hundred WLW. The only thing
between now and August third that can happen are for
players to either enhance or decrease their own value, or
(27:59):
for the Reds as a team to dramatically change the
conversation about it. And after eighty eight games, I could
certainly agree with anybody who believes that simply is not
going to happen. Earlier, we chatted with Scott Springer from
Big twelve media Days, and as you might expect, lots
of questions, lots of questions about Texas Tech. Brendan soarsby
(28:22):
that whole thing, all the schools conspiring against Texas Tech lawsuits.
It's been a crazy offseason in the Big Twelve. Here
is an exchange from earlier today in Frisco. The U
SEE contingent, by the way, is going to talk tomorrow.
This is an interaction between Texas Tech media personality Sean
Dillon and Bright You or Mark, the commissioner of the
(28:44):
Big twelve, tarn go ahead and play the audio commission.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
Texas Tech got fined over tortiitillas and tortillas were banned
out righting O issue paddles broken no ways to make
a rule has a tradition nick exemptionho Soortsbe never played
the snap for the Red Raiders. Betwelve sued them anyway,
while Cincinnati hasn't been yet touched. You're selling greater than twelve.
(29:09):
Why should Texas Tech fans believe it?
Speaker 4 (29:13):
Could you see?
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Let me come closer to you, stand up, ask that
question again and I'm going to give you the answer
I want to give you. So go ahead.
Speaker 6 (29:21):
Texas Tech got fined for titatios and tortillas were banned outright.
OSU has had paddles that were given a noise maker
exemption back in twenty twelve. Starsbe never played snap for
the Red rederators, and yet there is a lawsuit Cincinnati
(29:43):
has yet to be touched. You're selling greater than twelve.
Why should Texas Tech fans believe them?
Speaker 2 (29:52):
No, I didn't say greater than twelve. You misquoted me.
I said we're going forward is sixteen strong. And that's
my answer to your question. But thank you for that question.
Appreciating all right, So there you go. That's brett Or
Mark and uh Texas Tech media personality Sean Dillon. So
brett Or Mark really didn't answer the question. I will
(30:14):
answer it for him, so you hurt him. Reference Texas
toward Tech, Texas Tech and tortillas and Oklahoma State and
their paddles. Now at Texas Tech, U see played there
two years ago. Its two years ago, its two years ago,
and every time Texas Tech scored, the students threw tortillas
(30:37):
onto the field. It's fun, it's kitschy, it's probably kind
of harmless. But you're not supposed to be able to
throw stuff on the field. And so the Big twelve
put in this rule that said you can't throw tortillas
on the field, and so either was some pushback to it.
So then they said, well, we're just not gonna let
you bring tortillas into the game. Why, because you can't
(30:57):
throw stuff onto the field. The Oklahoma State paddles are noisy.
They make a lot of noise. The students at Oklahoma State,
to the best of my knowledge, were not throwing them
onto the field. Not that hard to figure out. In
(31:18):
terms of Texas Tech and Cincinnati, he said, Cincinnati hasn't
yet been touched because Cincinnati hasn't done anything wrong. If
I'm proven wrong, fine, This Brendan Sowersby story has been
unfolding for the better part of three months, nearly three months.
At no point has an official NCAA investigation been launched,
(31:43):
has a notice of allegation been sent out, and the
NCUBA Committee on Infractions doesn't have that much to do
these days. Nobody is suing, you see, because UC is
not trying to play a guy that would be deemed
in a eligible because of a rule that he broke.
Had Cincinnati, had Brendan Soresby still been at UC, and
(32:07):
he gambles, he gets suspended, the school thensues he plays
for UC. I guarantee you, I guarantee you all the
other big twelve schools would have griped and there would
be a lawsuit, and the intention of the lawsuit is
we want to be able to enforce our own conference rules,
(32:28):
which the judge in Lubbing Texas said the n c DOUBLEA,
which has rules against gambling, can enforce its own rules.
The reason why U SEE isn't being touched is a
nobody has accused you See, and by nobody I mean
the n cnable A of any wrongdoing. U SE is
not trying to play a player who's ineligible. They have
(32:50):
ensued the NCAA to get a player eligible despite the
fact that the NCNAA says he can't be eligible. The
lawsuit that that Texas Tech is involved in with the
other conference members is about the Big twelve looking to
enforce its own rules, which the NCAA was told in
court you can't. This should not be that hard to
(33:13):
figure out. And I sound frustrated because I am, because
I granted not here, but time it again, it's like, well,
how come nothing for UC? Nothing for UC because nobody
has proven that U SEE has done anything wrong. The
only people who have said publicly that you See did
anything wrong A were acting on behalf of Brendan Soresby
(33:35):
and b provided absolutely no evidence or proof that you see,
did anything wrong. Had they? It is my belief that
with not that many NCUBA rules to break that the
NCAA would have a satellite office in Cincinnati. And I'm
stealing that verbiage from Shad Brendle, they'd have a satellite
office in Cincinnati investigating uce such a thing has yet
(34:00):
to happen. It seems like, and maybe I'll be proven wrong.
It seems like that whatever questions the NCAA lobbed at
UC coaches, the administrators, whoever those answers were, to the
NCAA satisfaction. That's why the school's not being touched. This
(34:20):
should not be frankly, cannot be that hard to figure out,
Ain't that hard man? Speaking of Chad Brenda, he hosts
this show tomorrow. Anything you might have missed you can
go find on the iHeartRadio app, which is a service
of Long Next Sports Grow Go to Long Next Sports
Grow tonight, get a cold one, some wings and hang
(34:41):
out watch the Reds.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
If you want.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
I said, if you want, we are back at it
Thursday Thursday at three oh five and we'll talk to
you then. Have a great night. Thank you for listening.
Thanks to Tarren Bland, of course, for producing This is
ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station SE
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