September 1, 2026 • 35 mins
Why are the Reds taking an unnecessary risk? Plus, hear from Scott Satterfield and our sports legal expert Stuart W Penrose on the dude who impersonated an NFL player.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Cincinnati's ESPN 1530. All right. That's us.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
This is ESPN 1530. Thanks for listening. Hope you're having
a wonderful Tuesday afternoon.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Hot out.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Hot like I like it.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Hot out.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Tell you something, about a month and a half when
it ain't hot out anymore, you're going to be lying
to everybody telling folks how you love those, you know,
mid-50s temps.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Not me.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
And I'm guessing not really you either. Nonetheless, you'll hear
a little bit from Scott Satterfield earlier today as he
gets set for year four as head coach of the
UC Bearcats, Cincinnati hosting Boston College on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Tony Pike.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Tony Pike's actually at UC's practice today. And so we
have him every hour for this segment. We're going to
do a little Bearcats football because why not? Unless there
is like big Bengals breaking news between now and 445. Also,
Brenneman and Jones on baseball. And it's Tuesday, which means
we spend time with our sports legal expert, attorney Stuart W. Penrose,
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on a whole slew of topics, including the dude who
was trying to impersonate an NFL player. In order to
scam a lot of women, unfortunately, out of a lot
of money. I just, I'm always amazed at how gullible
some people are. And I say this as somebody, there
is somebody who is like friend of a friend in
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my life who once got scammed in ways that, man,
I wish I would have been there as she was
getting scammed because I feel like this was the sort
of thing you could see from a mile away. And
it's like, well, she got hurt. You hate to see
anybody get hurt. You hate to see anybody lose a
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lot of money because they've been duped. But it's always
amazing to me, and maybe it shouldn't be, how often
in life some people get duped. So if you were
watching the Reds game on Sunday night, amid the fun
broadcast and Joey Votto and Sal Stewart hitting another home run,
maybe the biggest and most important thing to happen in
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that game was Ellie De La Cruz exited early with
a quad issue. And that's news because A, it's a
player of Ellie's importance and caliber, and B, he's also
somebody who doesn't miss games. He doesn't miss innings. He
doesn't leave games early. As it turns out, by Terry
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Francona's own admission, Ellie De La Cruz is dealing with
a small calf strain. Now, according to Tito, the Reds
medical staff believes that Ellie can play through this. According
to Tito, though, with the caveat that if it gets worse,
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Ellie has to let us know. And according to Tito,
Ellie has promised that he's going to do that. He
has promised that if it feels worse, he's going to
let everybody know. You probably don't need me to remind
you that the Reds enter play tonight. eight games out
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of the last wildcard spot. They have 24 games remaining.
Not only are they eight games out of the last
wildcard spot, but there's like a billion teams between where
the Reds are and where that last wildcard spot is.
What are we doing here? I'm not asking that rhetorically.
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What are we doing here? He is one of the
cornerstones of this franchise. However big the Reds' core is
or isn't, he's clearly a part of it. By the way,
as much as we talk about Ellie's future, the guy
can't walk for another three years, so he's here, right?
He's a huge part of their future, short-term future at least,
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but he's a big part of their future. He is
playing while dealing with a quad string. Now, Chances are,
you remember last year, Ellie was dealing with leg issues
and yet he played every single day. And we did
this thing unendingly last year because Ellie, you know, went
forever without hitting a home run. And offensively, he wasn't
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the same player. And he even had some defensive issues.
And there was just this this hamster wheel of God,
Ellie's really struggling.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Well, he's hurt. OK, well, then, you know, put him
on the bench.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Well, you can't.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Well, OK, but he's not really helping the team. Well,
he's hurt.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Okay well then how about put him on the injured
list well you can't okay well why not because the
reds really need him but he's not really helping the
team well but he's hurt and just uh again and
again and around and around we went so at the
end of last season in spring training this year tito
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acknowledges like yeah i gotta gotta work him in some
days off that really hasn't happened this year and yes
he is just dhing he dh last night he's dhing
tonight Now, when you DH and you hit the ball,
then you have to run. And so when you're running,
I don't know, man, to me, if you're dealing with
a quad strain, you're running the risk of doing something.
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So there's the, I don't know, the issue of like
this manager never giving him the day off and you
can't help but wonder, and we're never going to know this.
This is probably unprovable. We're never going to know if
Ellie is dealing with some sort of physical issue because
he hasn't.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Been given a day off. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
But this manager who has in the past acknowledged, you
know what? Maybe, maybe I should give him the occasional
day off. Here you have handed to him on a
silver platter, a pretty damn good reason to give him
a day off. And yet he was out there last
night and he's in the starting lineup tonight. Again, the
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Reds are eight games out of the last wildcard spot.
They have 24 games to go. I believe their tragic
number for elimination is 14. They're not making the playoffs.
They are going nowhere this year. So my simple question
for you is, is this worth the risk? If they
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were neck and neck with the Milwaukee Brewers, which.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
They're neck and neck, like competing for a division title.
Just imagine that. But if they were, okay, fine. Or
if they were neck and neck with the Diamondbacks or
the Padres who they're playing this week or the Phillies
or the Cubs, if they were right there a game
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or two out of the last wildcard.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Then okay.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Like there were times last September, and granted the Reds
were six out on the Friday of Labor Day last
year now. there weren't as many teams between where they
were and where the New York Mets were, but as
they inched closer, even though Ellie was not himself, you
could go, okay, well, they're neck and neck. They need
them out there. Every game matters. Trying to get to
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the postseason, this is really important. You can't do that
this year, can you? Is this worth the risk? Is
this worth the risk? Can you imagine how you and
I would feel if we're watching the ball game tonight
Ellie Dela Cruz hits one into the gap. And while
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he's running, he goes down. And he's holding his quad.
And now here comes the trainer. And here comes the manager.
And there's the concerned look of his teammates. And now
what is a small strain is not so small anymore.
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And I know we're toward the end of the season,
24 games to go, and so the offseason is long
because the Reds aren't going to be in the playoffs because, wow,
that's just not something they do with much regularity around here.
And so, you know, maybe Iguala, he'll be okay this offseason. Okay,
do you want to go into the offseason? Pivotal offseason
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for this team. They got a lot of stuff to
figure out and a work stoppage in the middle of
it all, by the way. You want to go into
this offseason with... The health of Ellie De La Cruz
being one of your big questions. Is this worth the risk?
I had a poll question at Mo Egger. As always,
thanks to United Heartland Insurance. By the way, you owe
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it to yourself, man, especially as we get closer to
the end of the year to see what you're paying
for insurance, because my friend at United Heartland Insurance can
help you pay a lot less. Are the Reds being
reckless with Ellie De La Cruz? This feels reckless. This
feels unnecessary. This feels wholly unnecessary. This is not just
some guy on the team. This isn't Key Brian Hayes.
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This isn't Edwin Arroyo. And not to minimize those guys,
in particular Edwin Arroyo, this is Eli De La Cruz.
And if you're like me, and for your sake, for
the most part, I hope you're not, you respect the
hell out of anybody who wants to post up every
single day. You respect the hell out of anybody who
wants to play every single inning, every single day, every
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single game, whether you're leading the wildcard race, whether you're
eight games, whether your team has a losing record, a
winning record, whether it's May, whether it's September, like you
respect that. But don't you respect protecting the investment a
little bit more? That's what he is, man. You know,
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maybe they haven't paid him long term and are they're
not going to be able to do that.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Maybe you don't view him.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Like, I don't know, the biggest investment in Cincinnati sports,
Joe Burrow, and that's okay. But he's still a pretty
big part of this team. By the manager's own admission,
he's not 100%. He is dealing with a small quad strain.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
What are we doing here?
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I would not be bringing this up if today the
Reds were dead even in the hunt for the last
wildcard spot. I would not be bringing this up. We
would be talking maybe about like, how do they mitigate
his injury risk? What can they do with them? Can
they afford him to play in the field? Like, do
you look for for innings where maybe you could take
him out of a game if the score is sort
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of lopsided? Like, how do you handle it here? But OK,
you want Ellie to play. These games matter too much.
He wants to be out there. They need him out there.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Fine.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
It's worth running the risk.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Is it worth running the risk so the Reds could
somehow get closer to 500 or so they could catch
the Pirates or stave off the Washington Nationals for like
ninth place or 10th place in the National League? I
hate to sound as pessimistic as I am about the standings.
I just look at them and tell me what the
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pathway is for this team to get to the postseason,
not to mention they have still the toughest remaining schedule
in the sport. This feels reckless. It feels reckless by
Terry Francona. It feels reckless by the franchise. He may
not get hurt. And that's fine. Like you could do
dumb things and still not suffer an injury. You know,
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I'm a proponent of wearing a seatbelt. You may choose
to not wear your seatbelt. You may drive forever without
wearing your seatbelt. I still think that's dumb. I still
think that's not worth the risk. Kind of the same
thing here. Is this worth it? And why can't Terry Francona?
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This isn't David Bell. This isn't Brian Price. This isn't
Dave Miley. This is Terry Francona. I'm not sure the
Reds have ever hired a manager. In fact, I know
they haven't ever hired a manager who, when he took over,
had the resume that Terry Francona has right now. Which
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means nobody should have more gravitas, pull, cachet, or influence
to be able to tell Ellie, we're not doing this.
It doesn't make sense for you, and it doesn't make
sense for us. Is it worth the risk? Would you
want Joe Burrow to play in meaningless games when he's
not 100%? By the way, I didn't late last year.
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I could understand why he wanted to be out there.
can understand why Ellie wants to be out there. They're competitors.
They're paid a lot of dough. They want to play.
This doesn't make any sense. And I think what makes
it doubly frustrating is we went through this last year
and we saw the law of diminishing returns as it
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came to Ellie and playing physically compromised. And then we
listened to his manager say he was going to do
exactly what he hasn't done before. Now, you could argue
to this point there's been no reason to even give
Ellie a day off. Fine. But when you are acknowledging
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our guys got a small quad strain, really? That's not
a compelling reason when you're eight games out of the
last playoff spot to put them on the shelf? And
if it's not a Tito thing, then it should be
a Nick Kroll thing. It should be a somebody thing.
Somebody in the organization on whatever rung you want to
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find the right person. Ownership, front office, Nick Kroll, Brad Metter,
bad boy, trainer, doctor, third base coach, the guy in
charge of ticketing, the woman in charge of digital media,
the manager, somebody. Raise your hand and go, hey. I
hate to bring this up, but quick, just take a
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look at the standings. We're eight games out of a
playoff spot. There's a lot of teams between us and
the two that we're chasing right now. And, um, still
have a lot of games against like the Brewers and Dodgers.
And we've already put our, our best pitcher on a
pitch restriction and Hunter Green's not here.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
And we're probably not going to the fall season. So
how about we.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Not subject Ellie Taylor Cruz to further injury when we
acknowledge he's already dealing with one? Why is this so hard?
This is reckless. This is reckless. It's playing with fire.
And I cannot imagine, and I hope to hell we
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don't deal with this. I cannot imagine how it would
feel if we're watching Ellie play and he pulls up
lame and suddenly a small strain is something more severe.
The Cincinnati Reds already have a lot of uncertainty about
had a lot of questions looming over this upcoming offseason,
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not the least of which is, will we play baseball?
Why even run the possibility, the possible risk of adding
to those questions with one involving the health of one
of your best players, arguably your best player?
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Make it make sense.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
513-749-1530.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
866-702-3776. It makes none. None.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
If they were one game out, Ellie, go play, dude.
Gotta do it, man. This is part of being a pro.
Not playing him is a part of being smart. This
is not smart. Your phone calls are welcome at 513-749-1530.
UC and Boston College on Saturday. You'll hear Scott Satterfield
from earlier today next. Cincinnati's... CKY Cincinnati, an iHeartRadio station.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
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Speaker 2 (16:27):
This is ESPN 1530. Mo Egger, our sports legal expert,
attorney steward, W. Penrose in 10 minutes. Tony Pike from
Nippert Stadium in 20 minutes. UC starts the season on
Saturday at home at Nippert against Boston College. Cincinnati, seven
and a half point favorites. Let's be honest, the expectations
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for this season are not very high. The Vegas post,
the total is five and a half. Most I've seen
have Cincinnati going under that number. I talked on this
on our new betting podcast on Friday, why I'm going over.
You can listen to that if you want. It's on
the iHeartRadio app, back of the envelope bets. I am
excited to see what the Bearcats have. I understand the skepticism.
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I share some of the concerns that a lot of
folks have about this team. And let's be honest, the
long shadow of how last season ended looms over this
year because last season was such a profound disappointment. I
do not know if the Bearcats, even if they get
to six wins and get bowl eligibility, I don't know
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that they can win enough games so that next summer
we're not talking about Scott Satterfield in the same terms
we're talking about him right now, which is his seat's
pretty warm. He did talk with the assembled college football
media earlier today about week one, some of the challenges
facing a coaching staff preparing for opponent and opponent in
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this day and age when there's so much turnover as
the Bearcats get set to play Boston College on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Yeah, I think, you know, we all know, talking to
a bunch of guys throughout the country about first games
and different coaches, he's like, everybody says we're all in
the same boat. You don't really know what the opposing
team has. A lot of them have new coaches, whether
it be coordinators. And we find ourselves looking at film
from years past on some of the things that we're
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trying to see of tendencies that they may do. And
then also you're looking at film from other schools because
they brought guys in. So I think especially early in
the season, like first game, second game, You spend so
much more time looking at yourself and, you know, creating
a standard that you want the guys to play at offensively, defensively,
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and special teams. And we have to live up to
that standard on a daily basis. And then, you know,
I hope that's good enough once you get out on
the field. But it is– it's a little bit aggravating,
I think, especially the first game where you're playing a
team that doesn't have any film. You know, you'd love
to sit there and just watch all Boston College and
see everybody on that film that's going to be playing
out here Saturday, and that's just not the case when
you're playing the first game.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Scott Satterfield earlier today, every coach dealing with something similar.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
I don't know. And that's.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
I, everybody that I've, I've asked everybody that I've run into,
including that a couple of practices where it's all right.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
What do you think? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
And I think there's something awfully fun about that where
around the country and granted in some places where the
expectations are massively higher than, Here in Cincinnati, but around
the country, with the exception of in places where their
teams had week zero games, so many of us are
going to be in the same boat just trying to
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figure out in the first game what we have. Boston College,
our guy Phil Steele has them pick definitively. 17th in
a 17-team league, though he does expect them to be
more competitive than they were last year. They start a
former Division II quarterback. Cincinnati should win this game handily.
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I believe the Bearcats should start 3-0, and I think
if they do, they're going to be favored against Kansas State.
But again, like, Last season looms over this year. I
think a year ago at this time, a lot of
us knew what shape the roster would be in 12
months later, which put a premium on last year's team
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winning big, which, you know, there was so much excitement
over Sworsby coming back, Royer coming back, Fletcher coming back,
Dante Corleone coming back, the offensive lineman, Gavin Gerhardt coming back.
the additions in the portal, some of whom paid dividends
last year, like Cyrus Allen. And so I think there
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was a real sense going into last year that if
they win as they're expected to in 2025, you'll kind
of understand that they have to essentially start from scratch
in 2026. But you had to win big in 2025
and winning big in 2025 may not have meant a
college football playoff berth, but it had to be better
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than losing your last five.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Unfortunately, they did.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
And I think no matter what kind of start this
year's team gets off to, that long shadow of last
year's team, unfortunately, continues to loom. Your phone calls are
coming up on the Ellie Dela Cruz thing. Somebody make
it make sense. I get it, man. These players play.
These players want to play. They're also investments. Ellie Dela
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Cruz wanting to play is something I expect.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
L.A.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Delacruz playing is something that doesn't make any sense. Our
sports legal expert, Attorney Stewart W. Penrose, though, he always
makes sense. We'll talk about the dude who is impersonating
an NFL player and so much more next on ESPN 1530.
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Brenneman and Jones on baseball is 20 minutes away.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Tony Pike is 10 minutes away. It's Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Which means that this time we chat with our sports
legal expert attorney, Stuart W. Penrose from the Manilo Law Group.
And while I do have a question about LSU, it
is refreshing to not start the conversation by talking about
an injunction given to a college athlete.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Nonetheless, how are we doing?
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Doing great, Mo. How about yourself?
Speaker 1 (22:39):
I'm doing well.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Instead, I want to talk about a guy who pretended
to be an NFL player, Dajon Love. So he has
been arrested and charged with federal wire fraud, conspiracy to
commit wire fraud and wire fraud. This after allegedly scheming
for years, pretending to be an NFL player, a 49ers player,
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meeting multiple women through dating apps, and then creating a
fictitious persona, presenting himself as a member of the 49ers
in an effort to scam some women out of money.
And he has allegedly over two dozen victims. I have
so many questions. So there are people who use dating
apps and lie or embellish all the time. This has
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escalated from that to something entirely different. Where does a
simple lie in a dating app or catfishing somebody crossover
into federal wire fraud?
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Sure. I mean, lying or catfishing in and of itself,
as morally wrong as it is, it's not necessarily illegal.
You know, this crossed into fraud because he's got a
scheme to obtain money from these women. There was an
intent to defraud and, you know, he used electronic communications
and what's to do it. So there's your there's your
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wire fraud case right there. It's a Very straightforward wire
fraud case, Mo, from what I see. But my God,
the content, all the photos and videos and text and
everything that came out was just pure gold. It's just
an incredible story. It's incredible. You know, he did some
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horrible things to these women. Don't get me wrong. The
man is a criminal, but my God, are we going
to laugh off of this one?
Speaker 1 (24:19):
We did. And it's funny.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
And yet it's also so sad to me because it
just it preys on gullible people. And I'm always stricken by,
you know, how gullible some people are. And I don't
I try not to say that condescendingly, but I think
it's a lot. It's easy for those of us to
look at this and go, boy, how could somebody fall
for this? But things like this happen all the time.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Do we lose?
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Do we lose?
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Oh, there he's back. He's back. He's back. Thought for
a second we committed wire fraud there.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
That's all right.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
That's all right.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Let me ask you this as it relates to the
people who gave this guy money. We're talking about allegedly
a large sum of money for some of these women here.
Do they have any legal recourse that would allow them to.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Be made whole?
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Yes, but there's going to be a big caveat there, Mo.
You know, a couple of things here. With the court case,
you know, the criminals, the federal courts will award restitution
to these victims. They can also pursue civil fraud claims
against Love and against his co-conspirator who was acting as his.
his financial advisor, who apparently is only 18 years old.
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So I guess the person was 14 years old when
he started this, which just boggles my mind. It's going
to be easy for them to get a judgment here.
Are they going to be able to collect? Is this
guy going to have.
Anything that's collectible, I don't know. That's the $ 1. 3 million
question here.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
This might be a bit of a stupid question, but
I'll ask it anyway.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
If you're the San Francisco 49ers, is there anything you
could do legally because this guy maybe damaged your brand
a little bit?
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Maybe... possibly, but would they want to is a different story.
I mean, he used their, I mean, anybody could buy
a hat of a professional sports team, but, you know,
or a helmet, like he walked around with a helmet everywhere.
You know, he used their trademarks, their identity, and, you know,
in a way to create a false endorsement and association.
That said, I mean, as noteworthy of a story as
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this is, We're still dealing with a serial fraudster who's
been federally charged. You know, there's probably not a whole
lot of business value in throwing good money after bad here.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
If you use a dating app to defraud people, are
the owners of the dating app possibly at all legally culpable?
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Probably not. I mean, it's the platform, Mo. I mean,
unless the platform knew about the scheme or did something
to facilitate it or, you know, then there's not going
to be any liability there.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
All right.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
A week cannot go by without talking about a college
athlete and suing either the NCAA or suing a conference
or trying to gain eligibility. There's more court dates later
on this week involving LSU players. Are we heading to
a point where LSU is actually going to be in
court in a case where the conference it's in is
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the opposition?
Speaker 3 (27:16):
God only knows. Let's see what happens on Thursday. There's
a big court hearing on Thursday that's supposedly going to
decide once and for all whether these former NFL roster invitees,
drafted players, whoever they are, have you can play this season.
The SEC says they're going to abide by it, and
LSU says they're going to abide by what the SEC
says if this doesn't go their way. So something's got
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to give. If LSU doesn't back down, could the SEC
sue them? Sure. I mean, there's nothing legally impossible about it.
But they've got a lot of, you know, they've got
a lot of authority over their members. There's a lot
they can do just with their conference rules to punish
LSU if they're in breach and they do something that
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is against the court order. So it might not get
to that level. I mean, if LSU just abides, then
there's no issue. It's in everybody's best interest to make
up and get along. LSU, they benefit quite a bit
by being in the SEC and having that platform and exposure.
And at the same time, they're a massive brand in
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and of themselves. SEC has a lot of massive brands
to them, but they don't want to lose out on LSU.
They don't want to rattle that cage all that much.
Something's got to give here, and you would think that
at the end of the day, cooler heads will prevail.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
All right, two more I want to ask you about.
Attorney Stewart W.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Penrose from the Manila Law Group, our sports legal expert.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
The sale of the L.A.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Lakers has been talked about in a lot of business
circles with Mark Walter flipping the Lakers, making about $ 3 billion,
selling it to Josh Kushner and Bob Iger. Meanwhile, the
Buss family... I guess they want to stop the sale
of the Lakers. Legally, what could they do to keep
the sale from happening?
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Well, I mean, Jeannie Buff is a much stronger argument
than I just changed my mind. You know, her argument
is simply that her siblings didn't have the legal authority
to sell the shares in the first place because of
a court order that put her in charge of the
family's trust, which is apparently what, you know, what owned
their percentage of the Lakers. If the court order says
what her lawyer says, then it sounds like she's got
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pretty good ground here. And, you know, it's clearly a
very messy family situation with, you know, one of America's
most iconic sports brands, you know, caught in the middle
of it. You know, what I'm wondering, Mo, is, you know,
depending upon how messy this gets, you know, what are
the customers going to say in terms of whether they
even want to move forward? Who knows?
Speaker 1 (29:41):
All right.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
One more to ask you about, and it would probably
take me a half hour to explain all the ins
and outs of the good, good slash Callaway golf commercial controversy.
I'm going to assume that that most listening to this
conversation are at least somewhat familiar with, uh, how that
has all gone down. Um, you've got Calloway and good,
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good that have sort of pointed the finger at each other, distancing,
distancing themselves from each other. Good, good makes the ad
Calloway signs off on it. Now it looks like Calloway
wants to, uh, end its relationship with good good based
on a morals clause. Can that happen if the issue
involved here is something that one company gave the green
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light to for.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
The other to do?
Speaker 3 (30:27):
It depends on how the morals clause was written up.
I mean, the fact that Callaway, I mean, their own
CEO said they approved the ad, I mean, that's very interesting.
That's quite an admission there. But if I was Good
Good's lawyer, I would want to read the entire contract
before I would fully concede that Callaway had the right
to terminate or didn't have the right to terminate. Go ahead. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
So the CEO of Good Good goes on a social
media blitz, blasting Callaway for what they call a coordinated
media blitz. And I just– I feel like at some
point one is going to have a legal claim against
the other.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Is that a dumb way of looking at it?
Speaker 3 (31:07):
You would think so. I mean, certainly you would think
that Good Good would go after Callaway for terminating the contract.
We'll see what happens. But Good Good's CEO going out
there and blasting Callaway publicly– If I were a good,
good lawyer, I would say that that's not helping matters
at all. Is he going to create some claims against good,
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good or personally, you know, defamation, non-disparagement? Perhaps. It's not helping.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
If I find myself in a legal entanglement, how do
I get a hold of you?
Speaker 3 (31:41):
You can call us at 513-723-1600 at the Manila Law Group,
auto accidents, bankruptcies, OVIs. And if Dajon Love is listening,
I want you to contact the Manila Law Group, and
we're going to personally see if you have any NCAA eligibility.
And then we're going to call Lane Kiffin and see
if he can get you on LSU on Saturday night.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Well, you know, we're Bearcat fans, so I'm a little
bit more interested in bolstering the Bearcats. So if we
can find an NFL player who wants to sue to
be on UC's team, we'll make that happen. I appreciate
the time as always, man. Thanks so much.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Thank you, Bob.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
All right, speaking of the Bearcats, we're going to change
up our season preview report because Tony Pike is at
Nippert Stadium.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
We'll talk some UC football next. Cincinnati's ESPN 1530.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Traffic from the uc health all right tony pike is
uh back with us he is at nippert stadium he's
been watching the bearcats practice this afternoon so we're gonna
make this one about uc football how the bearcats look
today tom.
Speaker 6 (32:42):
Mo practice just wrapped up i thought it was a
good day for the bearcats more so because you know
for the first time since any training camp we've covered
this year they went against the scout team today So
the starters looked excellent against the scout team, giving a
presumed look of what Boston College is going to be,
except that's a little different. Because Boston College has seven
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new coaches and 55 new players coming into the game
on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
I know that the unknowns outweigh the knowns, even for
people who are around the program every single day. But
you being an optimist when it comes to UC sports,
and you are, and that's great, what are you hanging
your hat on? What would fuel the optimism for you
as it relates to this team this year?
Speaker 6 (33:28):
Offensively, they were dead last in time of possession in
college football last year. They had the ball for just
over 24 minutes per game. When you actually break down
their offensive efficiency numbers, they ran the ball for over
five yards per carry. They averaged over six yards per play.
Those are good numbers. They did good things on offense.
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The problem was They just didn't have the possessions. So
I think offensively, behind the offensive line that they have
and those guys coming back, they're going to have to
change things because they can do things with French that
maybe Sorsby couldn't, but also they can't do things.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
That Sorsby could do. They're going to have to adjust offensively.
Speaker 6 (34:08):
I'm counting on them to get more possessions, and I'm
counting on the defense to be marginally better. They should
bring more pressure. They should force more turnovers. They should
not give up those seven, eight, nine-minute drives. That's what
I'm kind of holding out hope for.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Yeah, I think that for me is where I kind of,
that's where I hang my hat at least early in
the season. And I understand that the 3-3-5 had its
effectiveness at certain times over the last couple of seasons,
but a little bit of a more traditional look. I
think they're going to be better in the secondary. I
think they should be better at getting after the quarterback.
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I am drinking the Nate Woody Kool-Aid.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
Yep, 100%. And again, just seeing them today, they play
with a confidence and they do look fast as they
move around. Now, I think Boston College wants to come
in and probably establish the run. Boston College has a
running back coming in from Liberty who was third in
the nation last year in yards per rush. So they're
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going to want to run the ball.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Can UC stop the run?
Speaker 6 (35:16):
And can they get more possessions and make the most
of those on the offensive side of the ball? I
think they're all fascinating questions, but they're the only team, though,
are the Bearcats. in the Big 12 that preseason are
going to face all five top-ranked Big 12 teams. They've
got to start fast, and that would include starting fast
on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah, no question about it. Tony, we'll talk again at 545.
Thank you very much. It's time now for Brenneman and
Jones on baseball.
Cincinnati's ESPN 1530. All right. That's us.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
This is ESPN 1530. Thanks for listening. Hope you're having
a wonderful Tuesday afternoon.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Hot out.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Hot like I like it.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
I like it.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Hot out.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Tell you something, about a month and a half when
it ain't hot out anymore, you're going to be lying
to everybody telling folks how you love those, you know,
mid-50s temps.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Not me.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
And I'm guessing not really you either. Nonetheless, you'll hear
a little bit from Scott Satterfield earlier today as he
gets set for year four as head coach of the
UC Bearcats, Cincinnati hosting Boston College on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Tony Pike.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Tony Pike's actually at UC's practice today. And so we
have him every hour for this segment. We're going to
do a little Bearcats football because why not? Unless there
is like big Bengals breaking news between now and 445. Also,
Brenneman and Jones on baseball. And it's Tuesday, which means
we spend time with our sports legal expert, attorney Stuart W. Penrose,
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on a whole slew of topics, including the dude who
was trying to impersonate an NFL player. In order to
scam a lot of women, unfortunately, out of a lot
of money. I just, I'm always amazed at how gullible
some people are. And I say this as somebody, there
is somebody who is like friend of a friend in
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my life who once got scammed in ways that, man,
I wish I would have been there as she was
getting scammed because I feel like this was the sort
of thing you could see from a mile away. And
it's like, well, she got hurt. You hate to see
anybody get hurt. You hate to see anybody lose a
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lot of money because they've been duped. But it's always
amazing to me, and maybe it shouldn't be, how often
in life some people get duped. So if you were
watching the Reds game on Sunday night, amid the fun
broadcast and Joey Votto and Sal Stewart hitting another home run,
maybe the biggest and most important thing to happen in
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that game was Ellie De La Cruz exited early with
a quad issue. And that's news because A, it's a
player of Ellie's importance and caliber, and B, he's also
somebody who doesn't miss games. He doesn't miss innings. He
doesn't leave games early. As it turns out, by Terry
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Francona's own admission, Ellie De La Cruz is dealing with
a small calf strain. Now, according to Tito, the Reds
medical staff believes that Ellie can play through this. According
to Tito, though, with the caveat that if it gets worse,
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Ellie has to let us know. And according to Tito,
Ellie has promised that he's going to do that. He
has promised that if it feels worse, he's going to
let everybody know. You probably don't need me to remind
you that the Reds enter play tonight. eight games out
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of the last wildcard spot. They have 24 games remaining.
Not only are they eight games out of the last
wildcard spot, but there's like a billion teams between where
the Reds are and where that last wildcard spot is.
What are we doing here? I'm not asking that rhetorically.
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What are we doing here? He is one of the
cornerstones of this franchise. However big the Reds' core is
or isn't, he's clearly a part of it. By the way,
as much as we talk about Ellie's future, the guy
can't walk for another three years, so he's here, right?
He's a huge part of their future, short-term future at least,
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but he's a big part of their future. He is
playing while dealing with a quad string. Now, Chances are,
you remember last year, Ellie was dealing with leg issues
and yet he played every single day. And we did
this thing unendingly last year because Ellie, you know, went
forever without hitting a home run. And offensively, he wasn't
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the same player. And he even had some defensive issues.
And there was just this this hamster wheel of God,
Ellie's really struggling.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Well, he's hurt. OK, well, then, you know, put him
on the bench.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Well, you can't.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Well, OK, but he's not really helping the team. Well,
he's hurt.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Okay well then how about put him on the injured
list well you can't okay well why not because the
reds really need him but he's not really helping the
team well but he's hurt and just uh again and
again and around and around we went so at the
end of last season in spring training this year tito
(05:04):
acknowledges like yeah i gotta gotta work him in some
days off that really hasn't happened this year and yes
he is just dhing he dh last night he's dhing
tonight Now, when you DH and you hit the ball,
then you have to run. And so when you're running,
I don't know, man, to me, if you're dealing with
a quad strain, you're running the risk of doing something.
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So there's the, I don't know, the issue of like
this manager never giving him the day off and you
can't help but wonder, and we're never going to know this.
This is probably unprovable. We're never going to know if
Ellie is dealing with some sort of physical issue because
he hasn't.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Been given a day off. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
But this manager who has in the past acknowledged, you
know what? Maybe, maybe I should give him the occasional
day off. Here you have handed to him on a
silver platter, a pretty damn good reason to give him
a day off. And yet he was out there last
night and he's in the starting lineup tonight. Again, the
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Reds are eight games out of the last wildcard spot.
They have 24 games to go. I believe their tragic
number for elimination is 14. They're not making the playoffs.
They are going nowhere this year. So my simple question
for you is, is this worth the risk? If they
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were neck and neck with the Milwaukee Brewers, which.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
They're neck and neck, like competing for a division title.
Just imagine that. But if they were, okay, fine. Or
if they were neck and neck with the Diamondbacks or
the Padres who they're playing this week or the Phillies
or the Cubs, if they were right there a game
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or two out of the last wildcard.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Then okay.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Like there were times last September, and granted the Reds
were six out on the Friday of Labor Day last
year now. there weren't as many teams between where they
were and where the New York Mets were, but as
they inched closer, even though Ellie was not himself, you
could go, okay, well, they're neck and neck. They need
them out there. Every game matters. Trying to get to
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the postseason, this is really important. You can't do that
this year, can you? Is this worth the risk? Is
this worth the risk? Can you imagine how you and
I would feel if we're watching the ball game tonight
Ellie Dela Cruz hits one into the gap. And while
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he's running, he goes down. And he's holding his quad.
And now here comes the trainer. And here comes the manager.
And there's the concerned look of his teammates. And now
what is a small strain is not so small anymore.
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And I know we're toward the end of the season,
24 games to go, and so the offseason is long
because the Reds aren't going to be in the playoffs because, wow,
that's just not something they do with much regularity around here.
And so, you know, maybe Iguala, he'll be okay this offseason. Okay,
do you want to go into the offseason? Pivotal offseason
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for this team. They got a lot of stuff to
figure out and a work stoppage in the middle of
it all, by the way. You want to go into
this offseason with... The health of Ellie De La Cruz
being one of your big questions. Is this worth the risk?
I had a poll question at Mo Egger. As always,
thanks to United Heartland Insurance. By the way, you owe
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it to yourself, man, especially as we get closer to
the end of the year to see what you're paying
for insurance, because my friend at United Heartland Insurance can
help you pay a lot less. Are the Reds being
reckless with Ellie De La Cruz? This feels reckless. This
feels unnecessary. This feels wholly unnecessary. This is not just
some guy on the team. This isn't Key Brian Hayes.
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This isn't Edwin Arroyo. And not to minimize those guys,
in particular Edwin Arroyo, this is Eli De La Cruz.
And if you're like me, and for your sake, for
the most part, I hope you're not, you respect the
hell out of anybody who wants to post up every
single day. You respect the hell out of anybody who
wants to play every single inning, every single day, every
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single game, whether you're leading the wildcard race, whether you're
eight games, whether your team has a losing record, a
winning record, whether it's May, whether it's September, like you
respect that. But don't you respect protecting the investment a
little bit more? That's what he is, man. You know,
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maybe they haven't paid him long term and are they're
not going to be able to do that.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Maybe you don't view him.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Like, I don't know, the biggest investment in Cincinnati sports,
Joe Burrow, and that's okay. But he's still a pretty
big part of this team. By the manager's own admission,
he's not 100%. He is dealing with a small quad strain.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
What are we doing here?
Speaker 2 (10:23):
I would not be bringing this up if today the
Reds were dead even in the hunt for the last
wildcard spot. I would not be bringing this up. We
would be talking maybe about like, how do they mitigate
his injury risk? What can they do with them? Can
they afford him to play in the field? Like, do
you look for for innings where maybe you could take
him out of a game if the score is sort
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of lopsided? Like, how do you handle it here? But OK,
you want Ellie to play. These games matter too much.
He wants to be out there. They need him out there.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Fine.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
It's worth running the risk.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Is it worth running the risk so the Reds could
somehow get closer to 500 or so they could catch
the Pirates or stave off the Washington Nationals for like
ninth place or 10th place in the National League? I
hate to sound as pessimistic as I am about the standings.
I just look at them and tell me what the
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pathway is for this team to get to the postseason,
not to mention they have still the toughest remaining schedule
in the sport. This feels reckless. It feels reckless by
Terry Francona. It feels reckless by the franchise. He may
not get hurt. And that's fine. Like you could do
dumb things and still not suffer an injury. You know,
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I'm a proponent of wearing a seatbelt. You may choose
to not wear your seatbelt. You may drive forever without
wearing your seatbelt. I still think that's dumb. I still
think that's not worth the risk. Kind of the same
thing here. Is this worth it? And why can't Terry Francona?
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This isn't David Bell. This isn't Brian Price. This isn't
Dave Miley. This is Terry Francona. I'm not sure the
Reds have ever hired a manager. In fact, I know
they haven't ever hired a manager who, when he took over,
had the resume that Terry Francona has right now. Which
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means nobody should have more gravitas, pull, cachet, or influence
to be able to tell Ellie, we're not doing this.
It doesn't make sense for you, and it doesn't make
sense for us. Is it worth the risk? Would you
want Joe Burrow to play in meaningless games when he's
not 100%? By the way, I didn't late last year.
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I could understand why he wanted to be out there.
can understand why Ellie wants to be out there. They're competitors.
They're paid a lot of dough. They want to play.
This doesn't make any sense. And I think what makes
it doubly frustrating is we went through this last year
and we saw the law of diminishing returns as it
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came to Ellie and playing physically compromised. And then we
listened to his manager say he was going to do
exactly what he hasn't done before. Now, you could argue
to this point there's been no reason to even give
Ellie a day off. Fine. But when you are acknowledging
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our guys got a small quad strain, really? That's not
a compelling reason when you're eight games out of the
last playoff spot to put them on the shelf? And
if it's not a Tito thing, then it should be
a Nick Kroll thing. It should be a somebody thing.
Somebody in the organization on whatever rung you want to
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find the right person. Ownership, front office, Nick Kroll, Brad Metter,
bad boy, trainer, doctor, third base coach, the guy in
charge of ticketing, the woman in charge of digital media,
the manager, somebody. Raise your hand and go, hey. I
hate to bring this up, but quick, just take a
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look at the standings. We're eight games out of a
playoff spot. There's a lot of teams between us and
the two that we're chasing right now. And, um, still
have a lot of games against like the Brewers and Dodgers.
And we've already put our, our best pitcher on a
pitch restriction and Hunter Green's not here.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
And we're probably not going to the fall season. So
how about we.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Not subject Ellie Taylor Cruz to further injury when we
acknowledge he's already dealing with one? Why is this so hard?
This is reckless. This is reckless. It's playing with fire.
And I cannot imagine, and I hope to hell we
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don't deal with this. I cannot imagine how it would
feel if we're watching Ellie play and he pulls up
lame and suddenly a small strain is something more severe.
The Cincinnati Reds already have a lot of uncertainty about
had a lot of questions looming over this upcoming offseason,
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not the least of which is, will we play baseball?
Why even run the possibility, the possible risk of adding
to those questions with one involving the health of one
of your best players, arguably your best player?
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Make it make sense.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
513-749-1530.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
866-702-3776. It makes none. None.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
If they were one game out, Ellie, go play, dude.
Gotta do it, man. This is part of being a pro.
Not playing him is a part of being smart. This
is not smart. Your phone calls are welcome at 513-749-1530.
UC and Boston College on Saturday. You'll hear Scott Satterfield
from earlier today next. Cincinnati's... CKY Cincinnati, an iHeartRadio station.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Guaranteed human. ESPN 1530. iHeartRadio. iHeartRadio 25.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
This is ESPN 1530. Mo Egger, our sports legal expert,
attorney steward, W. Penrose in 10 minutes. Tony Pike from
Nippert Stadium in 20 minutes. UC starts the season on
Saturday at home at Nippert against Boston College. Cincinnati, seven
and a half point favorites. Let's be honest, the expectations
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for this season are not very high. The Vegas post,
the total is five and a half. Most I've seen
have Cincinnati going under that number. I talked on this
on our new betting podcast on Friday, why I'm going over.
You can listen to that if you want. It's on
the iHeartRadio app, back of the envelope bets. I am
excited to see what the Bearcats have. I understand the skepticism.
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I share some of the concerns that a lot of
folks have about this team. And let's be honest, the
long shadow of how last season ended looms over this
year because last season was such a profound disappointment. I
do not know if the Bearcats, even if they get
to six wins and get bowl eligibility, I don't know
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that they can win enough games so that next summer
we're not talking about Scott Satterfield in the same terms
we're talking about him right now, which is his seat's
pretty warm. He did talk with the assembled college football
media earlier today about week one, some of the challenges
facing a coaching staff preparing for opponent and opponent in
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this day and age when there's so much turnover as
the Bearcats get set to play Boston College on Saturday.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Yeah, I think, you know, we all know, talking to
a bunch of guys throughout the country about first games
and different coaches, he's like, everybody says we're all in
the same boat. You don't really know what the opposing
team has. A lot of them have new coaches, whether
it be coordinators. And we find ourselves looking at film
from years past on some of the things that we're
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trying to see of tendencies that they may do. And
then also you're looking at film from other schools because
they brought guys in. So I think especially early in
the season, like first game, second game, You spend so
much more time looking at yourself and, you know, creating
a standard that you want the guys to play at offensively, defensively,
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and special teams. And we have to live up to
that standard on a daily basis. And then, you know,
I hope that's good enough once you get out on
the field. But it is– it's a little bit aggravating,
I think, especially the first game where you're playing a
team that doesn't have any film. You know, you'd love
to sit there and just watch all Boston College and
see everybody on that film that's going to be playing
out here Saturday, and that's just not the case when
you're playing the first game.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Scott Satterfield earlier today, every coach dealing with something similar.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
I don't know. And that's.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
I, everybody that I've, I've asked everybody that I've run into,
including that a couple of practices where it's all right.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
What do you think? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
And I think there's something awfully fun about that where
around the country and granted in some places where the
expectations are massively higher than, Here in Cincinnati, but around
the country, with the exception of in places where their
teams had week zero games, so many of us are
going to be in the same boat just trying to
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figure out in the first game what we have. Boston College,
our guy Phil Steele has them pick definitively. 17th in
a 17-team league, though he does expect them to be
more competitive than they were last year. They start a
former Division II quarterback. Cincinnati should win this game handily.
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I believe the Bearcats should start 3-0, and I think
if they do, they're going to be favored against Kansas State.
But again, like, Last season looms over this year. I
think a year ago at this time, a lot of
us knew what shape the roster would be in 12
months later, which put a premium on last year's team
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winning big, which, you know, there was so much excitement
over Sworsby coming back, Royer coming back, Fletcher coming back,
Dante Corleone coming back, the offensive lineman, Gavin Gerhardt coming back.
the additions in the portal, some of whom paid dividends
last year, like Cyrus Allen. And so I think there
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was a real sense going into last year that if
they win as they're expected to in 2025, you'll kind
of understand that they have to essentially start from scratch
in 2026. But you had to win big in 2025
and winning big in 2025 may not have meant a
college football playoff berth, but it had to be better
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than losing your last five.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Unfortunately, they did.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
And I think no matter what kind of start this
year's team gets off to, that long shadow of last
year's team, unfortunately, continues to loom. Your phone calls are
coming up on the Ellie Dela Cruz thing. Somebody make
it make sense. I get it, man. These players play.
These players want to play. They're also investments. Ellie Dela
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Cruz wanting to play is something I expect.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
L.A.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Delacruz playing is something that doesn't make any sense. Our
sports legal expert, Attorney Stewart W. Penrose, though, he always
makes sense. We'll talk about the dude who is impersonating
an NFL player and so much more next on ESPN 1530.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Cincinnati's ESPN 1530.
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Speaker 1 (22:05):
ESPN 1530. Cincinnati's Sports Station.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Brenneman and Jones on baseball is 20 minutes away.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Tony Pike is 10 minutes away. It's Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Which means that this time we chat with our sports
legal expert attorney, Stuart W. Penrose from the Manilo Law Group.
And while I do have a question about LSU, it
is refreshing to not start the conversation by talking about
an injunction given to a college athlete.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Nonetheless, how are we doing?
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Doing great, Mo. How about yourself?
Speaker 1 (22:39):
I'm doing well.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Instead, I want to talk about a guy who pretended
to be an NFL player, Dajon Love. So he has
been arrested and charged with federal wire fraud, conspiracy to
commit wire fraud and wire fraud. This after allegedly scheming
for years, pretending to be an NFL player, a 49ers player,
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meeting multiple women through dating apps, and then creating a
fictitious persona, presenting himself as a member of the 49ers
in an effort to scam some women out of money.
And he has allegedly over two dozen victims. I have
so many questions. So there are people who use dating
apps and lie or embellish all the time. This has
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escalated from that to something entirely different. Where does a
simple lie in a dating app or catfishing somebody crossover
into federal wire fraud?
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Sure. I mean, lying or catfishing in and of itself,
as morally wrong as it is, it's not necessarily illegal.
You know, this crossed into fraud because he's got a
scheme to obtain money from these women. There was an
intent to defraud and, you know, he used electronic communications
and what's to do it. So there's your there's your
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wire fraud case right there. It's a Very straightforward wire
fraud case, Mo, from what I see. But my God,
the content, all the photos and videos and text and
everything that came out was just pure gold. It's just
an incredible story. It's incredible. You know, he did some
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horrible things to these women. Don't get me wrong. The
man is a criminal, but my God, are we going
to laugh off of this one?
Speaker 1 (24:19):
We did. And it's funny.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
And yet it's also so sad to me because it
just it preys on gullible people. And I'm always stricken by,
you know, how gullible some people are. And I don't
I try not to say that condescendingly, but I think
it's a lot. It's easy for those of us to
look at this and go, boy, how could somebody fall
for this? But things like this happen all the time.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Do we lose?
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Do we lose?
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Oh, there he's back. He's back. He's back. Thought for
a second we committed wire fraud there.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
That's all right.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
That's all right.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Let me ask you this as it relates to the
people who gave this guy money. We're talking about allegedly
a large sum of money for some of these women here.
Do they have any legal recourse that would allow them to.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Be made whole?
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Yes, but there's going to be a big caveat there, Mo.
You know, a couple of things here. With the court case,
you know, the criminals, the federal courts will award restitution
to these victims. They can also pursue civil fraud claims
against Love and against his co-conspirator who was acting as his.
his financial advisor, who apparently is only 18 years old.
(25:27):
So I guess the person was 14 years old when
he started this, which just boggles my mind. It's going
to be easy for them to get a judgment here.
Are they going to be able to collect? Is this
guy going to have.
Anything that's collectible, I don't know. That's the $ 1. 3 million
question here.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
This might be a bit of a stupid question, but
I'll ask it anyway.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
If you're the San Francisco 49ers, is there anything you
could do legally because this guy maybe damaged your brand
a little bit?
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Maybe... possibly, but would they want to is a different story.
I mean, he used their, I mean, anybody could buy
a hat of a professional sports team, but, you know,
or a helmet, like he walked around with a helmet everywhere.
You know, he used their trademarks, their identity, and, you know,
in a way to create a false endorsement and association.
That said, I mean, as noteworthy of a story as
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this is, We're still dealing with a serial fraudster who's
been federally charged. You know, there's probably not a whole
lot of business value in throwing good money after bad here.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
If you use a dating app to defraud people, are
the owners of the dating app possibly at all legally culpable?
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Probably not. I mean, it's the platform, Mo. I mean,
unless the platform knew about the scheme or did something
to facilitate it or, you know, then there's not going
to be any liability there.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
All right.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
A week cannot go by without talking about a college
athlete and suing either the NCAA or suing a conference
or trying to gain eligibility. There's more court dates later
on this week involving LSU players. Are we heading to
a point where LSU is actually going to be in
court in a case where the conference it's in is
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the opposition?
Speaker 3 (27:16):
God only knows. Let's see what happens on Thursday. There's
a big court hearing on Thursday that's supposedly going to
decide once and for all whether these former NFL roster invitees,
drafted players, whoever they are, have you can play this season.
The SEC says they're going to abide by it, and
LSU says they're going to abide by what the SEC
says if this doesn't go their way. So something's got
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to give. If LSU doesn't back down, could the SEC
sue them? Sure. I mean, there's nothing legally impossible about it.
But they've got a lot of, you know, they've got
a lot of authority over their members. There's a lot
they can do just with their conference rules to punish
LSU if they're in breach and they do something that
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is against the court order. So it might not get
to that level. I mean, if LSU just abides, then
there's no issue. It's in everybody's best interest to make
up and get along. LSU, they benefit quite a bit
by being in the SEC and having that platform and exposure.
And at the same time, they're a massive brand in
(28:21):
and of themselves. SEC has a lot of massive brands
to them, but they don't want to lose out on LSU.
They don't want to rattle that cage all that much.
Something's got to give here, and you would think that
at the end of the day, cooler heads will prevail.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
All right, two more I want to ask you about.
Attorney Stewart W.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Penrose from the Manila Law Group, our sports legal expert.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
The sale of the L.A.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Lakers has been talked about in a lot of business
circles with Mark Walter flipping the Lakers, making about $ 3 billion,
selling it to Josh Kushner and Bob Iger. Meanwhile, the
Buss family... I guess they want to stop the sale
of the Lakers. Legally, what could they do to keep
the sale from happening?
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Well, I mean, Jeannie Buff is a much stronger argument
than I just changed my mind. You know, her argument
is simply that her siblings didn't have the legal authority
to sell the shares in the first place because of
a court order that put her in charge of the
family's trust, which is apparently what, you know, what owned
their percentage of the Lakers. If the court order says
what her lawyer says, then it sounds like she's got
(29:23):
pretty good ground here. And, you know, it's clearly a
very messy family situation with, you know, one of America's
most iconic sports brands, you know, caught in the middle
of it. You know, what I'm wondering, Mo, is, you know,
depending upon how messy this gets, you know, what are
the customers going to say in terms of whether they
even want to move forward? Who knows?
Speaker 1 (29:41):
All right.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
One more to ask you about, and it would probably
take me a half hour to explain all the ins
and outs of the good, good slash Callaway golf commercial controversy.
I'm going to assume that that most listening to this
conversation are at least somewhat familiar with, uh, how that
has all gone down. Um, you've got Calloway and good,
(30:03):
good that have sort of pointed the finger at each other, distancing,
distancing themselves from each other. Good, good makes the ad
Calloway signs off on it. Now it looks like Calloway
wants to, uh, end its relationship with good good based
on a morals clause. Can that happen if the issue
involved here is something that one company gave the green
(30:24):
light to for.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
The other to do?
Speaker 3 (30:27):
It depends on how the morals clause was written up.
I mean, the fact that Callaway, I mean, their own
CEO said they approved the ad, I mean, that's very interesting.
That's quite an admission there. But if I was Good
Good's lawyer, I would want to read the entire contract
before I would fully concede that Callaway had the right
to terminate or didn't have the right to terminate. Go ahead. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
So the CEO of Good Good goes on a social
media blitz, blasting Callaway for what they call a coordinated
media blitz. And I just– I feel like at some
point one is going to have a legal claim against
the other.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Is that a dumb way of looking at it?
Speaker 3 (31:07):
You would think so. I mean, certainly you would think
that Good Good would go after Callaway for terminating the contract.
We'll see what happens. But Good Good's CEO going out
there and blasting Callaway publicly– If I were a good,
good lawyer, I would say that that's not helping matters
at all. Is he going to create some claims against good,
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good or personally, you know, defamation, non-disparagement? Perhaps. It's not helping.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
If I find myself in a legal entanglement, how do
I get a hold of you?
Speaker 3 (31:41):
You can call us at 513-723-1600 at the Manila Law Group,
auto accidents, bankruptcies, OVIs. And if Dajon Love is listening,
I want you to contact the Manila Law Group, and
we're going to personally see if you have any NCAA eligibility.
And then we're going to call Lane Kiffin and see
if he can get you on LSU on Saturday night.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Well, you know, we're Bearcat fans, so I'm a little
bit more interested in bolstering the Bearcats. So if we
can find an NFL player who wants to sue to
be on UC's team, we'll make that happen. I appreciate
the time as always, man. Thanks so much.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Thank you, Bob.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
All right, speaking of the Bearcats, we're going to change
up our season preview report because Tony Pike is at
Nippert Stadium.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
We'll talk some UC football next. Cincinnati's ESPN 1530.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Traffic from the uc health all right tony pike is
uh back with us he is at nippert stadium he's
been watching the bearcats practice this afternoon so we're gonna
make this one about uc football how the bearcats look
today tom.
Speaker 6 (32:42):
Mo practice just wrapped up i thought it was a
good day for the bearcats more so because you know
for the first time since any training camp we've covered
this year they went against the scout team today So
the starters looked excellent against the scout team, giving a
presumed look of what Boston College is going to be,
except that's a little different. Because Boston College has seven
(33:02):
new coaches and 55 new players coming into the game
on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
I know that the unknowns outweigh the knowns, even for
people who are around the program every single day. But
you being an optimist when it comes to UC sports,
and you are, and that's great, what are you hanging
your hat on? What would fuel the optimism for you
as it relates to this team this year?
Speaker 6 (33:28):
Offensively, they were dead last in time of possession in
college football last year. They had the ball for just
over 24 minutes per game. When you actually break down
their offensive efficiency numbers, they ran the ball for over
five yards per carry. They averaged over six yards per play.
Those are good numbers. They did good things on offense.
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The problem was They just didn't have the possessions. So
I think offensively, behind the offensive line that they have
and those guys coming back, they're going to have to
change things because they can do things with French that
maybe Sorsby couldn't, but also they can't do things.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
That Sorsby could do. They're going to have to adjust offensively.
Speaker 6 (34:08):
I'm counting on them to get more possessions, and I'm
counting on the defense to be marginally better. They should
bring more pressure. They should force more turnovers. They should
not give up those seven, eight, nine-minute drives. That's what
I'm kind of holding out hope for.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Yeah, I think that for me is where I kind of,
that's where I hang my hat at least early in
the season. And I understand that the 3-3-5 had its
effectiveness at certain times over the last couple of seasons,
but a little bit of a more traditional look. I
think they're going to be better in the secondary. I
think they should be better at getting after the quarterback.
(34:45):
I am drinking the Nate Woody Kool-Aid.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
Yep, 100%. And again, just seeing them today, they play
with a confidence and they do look fast as they
move around. Now, I think Boston College wants to come
in and probably establish the run. Boston College has a
running back coming in from Liberty who was third in
the nation last year in yards per rush. So they're
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going to want to run the ball.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Can UC stop the run?
Speaker 6 (35:16):
And can they get more possessions and make the most
of those on the offensive side of the ball? I
think they're all fascinating questions, but they're the only team, though,
are the Bearcats. in the Big 12 that preseason are
going to face all five top-ranked Big 12 teams. They've
got to start fast, and that would include starting fast
on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah, no question about it. Tony, we'll talk again at 545.
Thank you very much. It's time now for Brenneman and
Jones on baseball.
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