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(00:00):
Always pleasure talking with Donovan and Neilfor Americans for Prosperities Ohio Chapter, or
finally on line in Americans for Prosperitydot orgon and find your own state using
the pull down. Welcome back,Donovan, It's a pleasure to have you
on. I understand you're launching yourlegislative agenda here in the state of Ohio.
What's what's the Buckeye Blueprint legislative agendaall about? My friend? Yeah,
(00:22):
well, Brian, always a pleasureto be with you. And we're
what we're doing is, you know, we're sort of at a halfway point
in the year, are into thelegislative session. It's a two year,
full time legislative session, and soas we go into the summer months and
we're going to be out and abouttraveling around the state. We want to
be talking to folks and sort ofstarting to set the tone for not only
(00:43):
what will be looking at as weget to that tricky lane duck period at
the end of the year where wildand crazy things can happen in legislative bodies,
but also set the tone for nextyear twenty twenty five and what we
need to do to move Ohio forward, as we say, moves from middle
in the midway asked number one inthe nation, and that's what That's what.
This Buckeye Blueprint is updated twenty twentyfive. Buckeye Blueprint policy agenda is
(01:07):
all about well, it includes economicopportunity for all Ohioans and education reform for
Ohio families and as well as endingcronism. What does the economic opportunity for
Ohioans include? Well, it's youknow, one of the things that you
know your listeners are probably wondering isthey're saying, Hey, I thought we
just cut taxes not too long agohere in the state of Ohio. We
(01:29):
went from four brackets to two.How are we not doing? You know,
what does this mean that we're notbig and bold or we're still stuck
in the middle. The problem is, Brian, is we're not moving far
ahead enough fast enough. We needto get Ohio on a trajectory to a
zero percent income tax. That's abig part of this part of the economic
(01:49):
opportunity agenda. We also really needto keep vigilant on the regulatory state.
We've done some big stuff the lastfew years, but if you don't stay
on top of this stuff, Brian, You know this, If you don't
stay on top of this stuff,the bureaucrats in Washington and Columbus, it
just keeps growing and it comes back. It's like weeds. And so we
need to continue to push our GeneralAssembly to go further and further in limiting
(02:12):
the size of the scope of governmentand making sure that we're putting people back
in power rather than rather than thebureaucrats. And so from tax reform to
regulatory reform, we see a lotof opportunities to make some changes in next
year, over the next couple ofyears in the economic opportunity space fair enough.
And something that I'm a huge fanof, uh is the idea that
(02:37):
parents can send their children any schoolthey want, that the tax dollars don't
flow automatically to the public schools andthe unions that run them look as they
are. What is Americans for Prosperitiesposition regarding the education reform in this legislative
agenda? Yeah? Well, andone thing if you're you know your listeners
are driving and they're probably not ableto take notes. One thing I'll plug
here is we launched a new website. We updated our Buckeye print dot Com
(03:00):
website. It's based on feedback we'vereceived from you know, the thousands of
people we need across the Buckeye Stateand hear their concerns. And so when
it comes to education, part ofthe feedback we've received is while we've expanded
ed choice vouchers, we've made itpossible for families to take their child to
the school that they're choosing. Thereis much more to be done from universal
(03:22):
open enrollment where kids can access apublic school that you know, they might
be stuck in an inner city publicschool district like Cincinnati and they want to
get out to a suburb, asuburban school district that has better quality of
education. Universal open enrollment does that. We also need to break down talk
about the bureaucracy, lot break downsome of the barriers that exist that keep
(03:43):
a parent from being able to makethat switch as easy as possible. And
so or we've got a good frameworkingplace here in Ohio, we really need
to push forward on things like educationalsavings accounts, Universal education savings accounts that
really put parents in control of thosedollars in the edge vacation system, the
ultimate form of accountability, if youwill, Well, we have that flexibility
(04:04):
when it comes to health. Youknow, health savings plans and money you
can sock away pre tax to dealwith health burdens and things. Why not
education? Well, one hundred percentAnd you're seeing that right when you when
you put people in charge, rightwhen you drive these bottom up solutions,
you put people in charge and incontrol, good things can happen. You
(04:25):
know, we have ability to goto uh you know, you can go
to any library in the state andcheck out a book. You can go
to any park in the state.We don't assign those resident by by where
your zip code is or where you'reregistered to voter live. You have the
ability to access them. And that'swhat we want. Education people to be
able to take those tax dollars,those education savings called dollars, and go
(04:46):
to the school they're choosing as easyas possible. That's that's the vision we're
striving for here with our Buckeye Blueprint. Yeah, and I can hear you
be met with the crisis. Butbut but but only people of means would
be able to send their children offto the suburbs because of the commute and
everything. But what I've learned withyou know, these schools like the institutions
the K through twelve institutions that aretrying to model and mirror the Hillsdale College
(05:08):
example. When you build it,people will come and they will figure ways
around those hurdles and dry end upcoming like an hour commute each way,
but organizing car pools to you know, spread the pain that's associated with getting
a kid into a better school andthe cost associated with that. Yeah,
there are ways, you know,bottom downs or bottom up solutions to overcome
even those challenges. Well. Yeah, and one of the big things we're
(05:31):
trying to talk about and collect ideasaround is what we call like education entrepreneurship
and education innovation, where what dowe need you know, sort of the
question I've been asking other think tankswho share our vision on education and asking
lawmakers friendly aligned lawmakers on this issueis how do we what are the barriers
that exist to incentivizing an entrepreneurial teacherfrom getting out of the teachers union where
(05:57):
they're underpaid and underappreciated and stuff,you know, just following you know a
through z of the of the therequirements that they have. How do we
get that entrepreneurial teacher out of thatenvironment into a place where they can they
can go and drive and deliver aquality education for students. We want education
innovation, and so one of thethings we're looking at is how do we
break some of those barriers so wecan have more a greater supply of education
(06:21):
opportunity rather than a one size fitsall limited amount. Well, for whatever
reason, I keep thinking of thepolice officers who are leaving the woke jurisdictions
where they won't prosecute crime and goingto other jurisdictions where they welcome police officers
and want to hire them and willprosecute crime. There's flexibility. There's another
job out there somewhere, and youmight be better served by moving to it.
(06:43):
Finally, a moment or two wecan spend on ending cronyism and corruption.
How is that energy policy? Thissounds like something from a dream.
Well, you know this is theone thing talk about how we've taken our
Buckeye blueprint and we're gonna do thatagain this summer brand we'll make stops all
across the state. Sitting down withvarious groups and individuals and having conversations again,
what did they ask them the question, what do you think it's going
(07:06):
to take to make a bolder,better buck. I state this energy policy
area is something that we heard consistently. Folks are frustrated with rising energy costs
and a sense that it's an unfairplaying field out there. And so one
of the things we've started talk lookingat is we've used right now the last
several years as an era of croniousdominated energy policy, and we're committed to
(07:29):
breaking that. We're going to beworking with lawmakers, with think tanks,
grassroots activists, and coalition partners toreally start to drive some positive, pre
market oriented solutions to energy policy becauseright now, for the last several years,
it's just cronious policy after handout aftercarve out, after subsidy after credit,
and it's a problem. The solutionto the solution to our energy problems
(07:53):
that are caused by Washington, DCbig government aren't found in big government in
Columbus, and we're going to workto drive some solutions over the next year
that lawmakers can take action on.Don Renil Americans were Prosperity Buckeye Blueprint dot
com. Joe put a link upif you have Karsey dot com. Donovan,
I look forward to having you backon Keep up the great work and
keep spreading the message. We canchange things for the better in Ohio,
(08:13):
and I know we'll achieve that goalat some point with your efforts. Appreciate
it, Donovan, have a wonderfulday. Seven thirty a couple and seven
thirty nine fift You have KARC DEtalk station. We're gonna learn about the
Always pleasure talking with Donovan and Neilfor Americans for Prosperities Ohio Chapter, or
finally on line in Americans for Prosperitydot orgon and find your own state using
the pull down. Welcome back,Donovan, It's a pleasure to have you
on. I understand you're launching yourlegislative agenda here in the state of Ohio.
What's what's the Buckeye Blueprint legislative agendaall about? My friend? Yeah,
(00:22):
well, Brian, always a pleasureto be with you. And we're
what we're doing is, you know, we're sort of at a halfway point
in the year, are into thelegislative session. It's a two year,
full time legislative session, and soas we go into the summer months and
we're going to be out and abouttraveling around the state. We want to
be talking to folks and sort ofstarting to set the tone for not only
(00:43):
what will be looking at as weget to that tricky lane duck period at
the end of the year where wildand crazy things can happen in legislative bodies,
but also set the tone for nextyear twenty twenty five and what we
need to do to move Ohio forward, as we say, moves from middle
in the midway asked number one inthe nation, and that's what That's what.
This Buckeye Blueprint is updated twenty twentyfive. Buckeye Blueprint policy agenda is
(01:07):
all about well, it includes economicopportunity for all Ohioans and education reform for
Ohio families and as well as endingcronism. What does the economic opportunity for
Ohioans include? Well, it's youknow, one of the things that you
know your listeners are probably wondering isthey're saying, Hey, I thought we
just cut taxes not too long agohere in the state of Ohio. We
(01:29):
went from four brackets to two.How are we not doing? You know,
what does this mean that we're notbig and bold or we're still stuck
in the middle. The problem is, Brian, is we're not moving far
ahead enough fast enough. We needto get Ohio on a trajectory to a
zero percent income tax. That's abig part of this part of the economic
(01:49):
opportunity agenda. We also really needto keep vigilant on the regulatory state.
We've done some big stuff the lastfew years, but if you don't stay
on top of this stuff, Brian, You know this, If you don't
stay on top of this stuff,the bureaucrats in Washington and Columbus, it
just keeps growing and it comes back. It's like weeds. And so we
need to continue to push our GeneralAssembly to go further and further in limiting
(02:12):
the size of the scope of governmentand making sure that we're putting people back
in power rather than rather than thebureaucrats. And so from tax reform to
regulatory reform, we see a lotof opportunities to make some changes in next
year, over the next couple ofyears in the economic opportunity space fair enough.
And something that I'm a huge fanof, uh is the idea that
(02:37):
parents can send their children any schoolthey want, that the tax dollars don't
flow automatically to the public schools andthe unions that run them look as they
are. What is Americans for Prosperitiesposition regarding the education reform in this legislative
agenda? Yeah? Well, andone thing if you're you know your listeners
are driving and they're probably not ableto take notes. One thing I'll plug
here is we launched a new website. We updated our Buckeye print dot Com
(03:00):
website. It's based on feedback we'vereceived from you know, the thousands of
people we need across the Buckeye Stateand hear their concerns. And so when
it comes to education, part ofthe feedback we've received is while we've expanded
ed choice vouchers, we've made itpossible for families to take their child to
the school that they're choosing. Thereis much more to be done from universal
(03:22):
open enrollment where kids can access apublic school that you know, they might
be stuck in an inner city publicschool district like Cincinnati and they want to
get out to a suburb, asuburban school district that has better quality of
education. Universal open enrollment does that. We also need to break down talk
about the bureaucracy, lot break downsome of the barriers that exist that keep
(03:43):
a parent from being able to makethat switch as easy as possible. And
so or we've got a good frameworkingplace here in Ohio, we really need
to push forward on things like educationalsavings accounts, Universal education savings accounts that
really put parents in control of thosedollars in the edge vacation system, the
ultimate form of accountability, if youwill, Well, we have that flexibility
(04:04):
when it comes to health. Youknow, health savings plans and money you
can sock away pre tax to dealwith health burdens and things. Why not
education? Well, one hundred percentAnd you're seeing that right when you when
you put people in charge, rightwhen you drive these bottom up solutions,
you put people in charge and incontrol, good things can happen. You
(04:25):
know, we have ability to goto uh you know, you can go
to any library in the state andcheck out a book. You can go
to any park in the state.We don't assign those resident by by where
your zip code is or where you'reregistered to voter live. You have the
ability to access them. And that'swhat we want. Education people to be
able to take those tax dollars,those education savings called dollars, and go
(04:46):
to the school they're choosing as easyas possible. That's that's the vision we're
striving for here with our Buckeye Blueprint. Yeah, and I can hear you
be met with the crisis. Butbut but but only people of means would
be able to send their children offto the suburbs because of the commute and
everything. But what I've learned withyou know, these schools like the institutions
the K through twelve institutions that aretrying to model and mirror the Hillsdale College
(05:08):
example. When you build it,people will come and they will figure ways
around those hurdles and dry end upcoming like an hour commute each way,
but organizing car pools to you know, spread the pain that's associated with getting
a kid into a better school andthe cost associated with that. Yeah,
there are ways, you know,bottom downs or bottom up solutions to overcome
even those challenges. Well. Yeah, and one of the big things we're
(05:31):
trying to talk about and collect ideasaround is what we call like education entrepreneurship
and education innovation, where what dowe need you know, sort of the
question I've been asking other think tankswho share our vision on education and asking
lawmakers friendly aligned lawmakers on this issueis how do we what are the barriers
that exist to incentivizing an entrepreneurial teacherfrom getting out of the teachers union where
(05:57):
they're underpaid and underappreciated and stuff,you know, just following you know a
through z of the of the therequirements that they have. How do we
get that entrepreneurial teacher out of thatenvironment into a place where they can they
can go and drive and deliver aquality education for students. We want education
innovation, and so one of thethings we're looking at is how do we
break some of those barriers so wecan have more a greater supply of education
(06:21):
opportunity rather than a one size fitsall limited amount. Well, for whatever
reason, I keep thinking of thepolice officers who are leaving the woke jurisdictions
where they won't prosecute crime and goingto other jurisdictions where they welcome police officers
and want to hire them and willprosecute crime. There's flexibility. There's another
job out there somewhere, and youmight be better served by moving to it.
(06:43):
Finally, a moment or two wecan spend on ending cronyism and corruption.
How is that energy policy? Thissounds like something from a dream.
Well, you know this is theone thing talk about how we've taken our
Buckeye blueprint and we're gonna do thatagain this summer brand we'll make stops all
across the state. Sitting down withvarious groups and individuals and having conversations again,
what did they ask them the question, what do you think it's going
(07:06):
to take to make a bolder,better buck. I state this energy policy
area is something that we heard consistently. Folks are frustrated with rising energy costs
and a sense that it's an unfairplaying field out there. And so one
of the things we've started talk lookingat is we've used right now the last
several years as an era of croniousdominated energy policy, and we're committed to
(07:29):
breaking that. We're going to beworking with lawmakers, with think tanks,
grassroots activists, and coalition partners toreally start to drive some positive, pre
market oriented solutions to energy policy becauseright now, for the last several years,
it's just cronious policy after handout aftercarve out, after subsidy after credit,
and it's a problem. The solutionto the solution to our energy problems
(07:53):
that are caused by Washington, DCbig government aren't found in big government in
Columbus, and we're going to workto drive some solutions over the next year
that lawmakers can take action on.Don Renil Americans were Prosperity Buckeye Blueprint dot
com. Joe put a link upif you have Karsey dot com. Donovan,
I look forward to having you backon Keep up the great work and
keep spreading the message. We canchange things for the better in Ohio,
(08:13):
and I know we'll achieve that goalat some point with your efforts. Appreciate
it, Donovan, have a wonderfulday. Seven thirty a couple and seven
thirty nine fift You have KARC DEtalk station. We're gonna learn about the
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