55KRC Friday Morning Show with Brian Thomas 6/28/2024

Debate reaction. Tech Friday, Alex Triantafilou, and The Book, Tanked in Cincinnati.

Episode Transcript

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Five o five at fifty about kr C the talk station, Happy Friday

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vacation, the Hindenburg crash last night. I love to hear from me.
You got a comment about the presidentialbate. I did step up and watch
it, believe it or not,throughout the whole thing, although I was
nodding off toward the end there becausethe damage had already been done. Uh,
I Biden pretty much crashed and burnedwithin the first fifteen minutes of the

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uh of the debate. What anembarrassment? And did anybody else feel sorry
for him? I scanning the headlinesthis morning, and I went to some
of the most liberal sites. Youcan't find a single headline that's positive for
Joe Biden. I mean headlines.Even nobody even bothered to try to suggest
for a moment that he did areasonable job. Oh sure they talked about

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Trump lying. Oh, he lieda bunch of times, but everybody was
given Trump credit for maintaining his composure. Listen to this, mother Jones.
How much more left ring socialists canyou find? Trump was the Trump we
know, Biden was the Biden wefeared. To opad piece by one of
their leftists, the Washington Bureau ChiefDavid corn He just starts out. Biden

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had his shot chance to to spellconcerns about his age and his abilities,
but at his first debate with DonaldTrump, he stumbled through ninety minutes,
muffing answers, often looking uncertain,speaking low, gravelly voice that didn't convey
strength. This was not only amischance, it was a disaster. Afterwards,
Democrats had good cause to be indespair to wonder if disarray was on

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its way again. You know,that's from probably one of the most sympathetic
sites you're gonna find for the leftwingers of the world. Biden supporters media
express shock over Biden's performance. HeadlineDemocrats can't avoid the Biden problem headline Biden's
disastrous night stands to alter the courseof the election. Democrats privately discussed replacing

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Biden on presidential ticket. Here's oneCNN we are f worded. That's the
headline, Democrats despair for Biden debateperformance. Biden's debate performance against Trump rekindles
questions about fitness for office. Andhere's one more. Biden crashes in first

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clash with Trump and other takeaways fromthe debate. So you know, across
all spectrums, from CNN to MotherJones and The Wall Street General, Fox
News, all the sites I checkedon this morning. Yeah, we all
saw the same thing, and it'swhat we expected. And you know,
should we call the entire thing lastnight a cheap fake? Are they gonna

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roll out cream g and Pierre totell us that we shouldn't believe our own
eyes and ears from last night?You know? And I didn't think Trump
did that great. Honestly, hedid maintain his composure. He didn't you
know, he wasn't acting in achildish way in any way, shape or
form. So that was a positive, and he's been getting props for that.

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I think he missed some golden opportunitiesto make some better points. And
also he could have used the line, you know at one point, like
Trump said, I really don't knowwhat he said at the end of that
sentence, and I don't think heknows either, And that was a perfect
response to this gibbers that was comingout of Biden's mouth. But he could
have made that point like four orfive times, because I didn't understand what

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the hell Biden was talking about.And it was weird for me because you
know, we're all inside baseball folks, at least most listeners to the Morning
Show know when when they're dancing aroundthe edges, they're trying to convey a
point or a thought or something.Unless you know and have a foundation for
all of the names and the incidentsand and and things that have happened historically.

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Like if you're an outsider, aforeigner, someone who isn't regularly paying
attention to the antics between presidents orformer presidents here in the United States,
what would you your takeaway from thatlast night? I don't think you would
have learned anything other than you knowthe the commander in chief of the free
world is a feeble minded old guywho probably should be in an assisted living

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facility. Began noonon. Had acouple observations. It was she was thinking
you should hurt her outline or hera ed peace talks out. You know,
they probably didn't think it was goingto be that big of a deal.
Blah blah blah. It was,in fact, as consequential as any

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presidential debate in history, and theworst night for an incumbent in history.
That's a bold statement. It wasa total and unmitigated disaster for mister Biden.
It was a It was a routefor mister Trump. It wasn't the
kind of route that says, ifthe election were held tomorrow, Donald Trump
would win. It was the kindof route that said, if the election
were held tomorrow, Donald Trump wouldwin in a landslide. It is impossible

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to believe. She writes that theDemocrats will continue with mister Biden as a
presidential standard bearer. They are goingto have to do what they fear to
do, make themselves uncomfortable, revealtheir internal internal splits and brokeness, and
admit what the rest of the countrycan see and has long seen, that
mister Biden can't do the job.They've stopped being the victim of his vanity

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and poor judgment and of his family'sneed and get themselves a new nominee.
And that's another thing that's dominating thenews this morning. Who's gonna be the
new person who's gonna take over?And now Biden's gonna have to consent to
that, He's gonna have to agreeto like it'll be like a Lyndon Johnson,
I refuse to accept the nomination ofmy party. He'll finish out the
term that helps the Democrats stay awayfrom the whole Kamala Harris landmine situation they

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created for themselves by well naming heras the vice presidential selection for Joe Biden
to run with. I mean,no one likes Kamala Harris, and they
never did. She's a giggling IoT. I mean, although you know,
the one thing you can say aboutKamala Harris she does help Joe Biden come

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off is to be a little bitbit more cognitively shrewd and sharp than he
actually is. But no longer,not after last night, Not after last
night, Joe biden sporters hoped thatthey would well erase the worries he was
too old. They failed miserably,And a question for you, do you

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think that was intentional? This wasthe earliest presidential debate neither part candidate has
received the formal nomination of the party. If all of Biden's handlers and they've
known about his problems for now along time. The people behind the scenes
that regularly are rolled out to talkabout how sharp he is behind the scenes,
and nobody's got a better command orhold on things, and blah blah

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blah blah blah. They're the onesthat's seen behind the scenes every day.
They're the ones that allowed him tomove forward and go ahead and debate early
on in advance of the Democrat convention. Do you think maybe they knew it
was going to come across this way? The guy was locked up rehearsing with
sixteen people for the last week.The affairs of state were put on hold

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while he practiced every single day leadingup to that performance last night. Any
return on investment for all the timethey spent with him, And if you
just practiced and spent that much timepreparing for debate, I bet you would
have done a lot better than JoeBiden. But then again, you're not

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cognitively and there were times in Bidenwas really just trying to spew out almost
every fact that he had been toldto get out during the debate. It
was just like a stream of consciousnesscoming out of his mouth. And it's
like, look over to my wifeand I said that listen, looks at
it him. He's trying to getout everything that they trained him to say
during the last week all at once, which just became an incoherent list of

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stuff that was pouring out of hismouth, and very inarticulately, I might
add, it's like a brain purge. Liberals and progressive, eccentric cable TV
pundits were in panic. Yeah,you got CNN analyst John King having this
to say. This was a gamechanging debate in the sense that right now

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as we speak, there is adeep, a wide, and a very
aggressive panic in the Democratic Party.It started minutes into debate and continues right
now. They're having conversations about thePresident's performance, which they think was dismal,
and they're trying to have in conversationsabout what they should do. Some
of those conversations include should we goto the White House and ask the President

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to step aside? Other conversations areshould prominent Democrats go to the public with
that call because they feel this debatewas so terrible CNN John King and I
will out, you know, Ijust want to give props to CNN.
I mentioned this the other day whenI was talking to Breitbart's political commentator.

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I said, do you think CNNwill use this in an effort to rehabilitate
itself so it doesn't come across isso unbelievably and horrifically biased. I mean,
they only got like half a dozenviewers at night anymore. Anyway,
And oh lo and behold, itlooks like I called that one because the
questions I thought were actually pretty darngood. They were right in the face

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of key issues, both for Trumpand for Joe Biden. So it brought
up immigration, that brought up Januarysixth, and you know, on and
on and on abortion. Actually,I thought Trump did a pretty good job
coming across on a and no,he's not an evangelical Christian. He believes
in exceptions to the outright ban andabortion, including rape, incestin for the
health and well being of the mother. I think you've done a pretty good

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job boxing Joe Biden in about lateterm abortions and the horrors of those.
I mean, you know, Bidenshould have walked away with the whole abortion
issue, right Well, guess whathe didn't. So I don't know what
you make of this. You canfeel free to call five won three seven
four nine fifty five hundred, eighthundred eighty two to three talk. Obviously

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a lot more comments and commentators chimingin on this, But when you got
this is the Internet age, folks, There are literally thousands and thousands of
sites that you can go to toget opinions and news and information. You
know my job, I do thisall the time. And when you wake
up and you can't find a singlething positive being said about Joe Biden's performance

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last night, you know it wasa trainer for the Biden campaign. Five
two three Talk. It is Friday. We will have Tech Friday with Dave
Hatter. Got some great things totalk about with him and Alex Trouncefilo,
head of the Ohio Republican Party,is going to join us today with five
to do his debate recap, andwe're gonna hear from Brett Baker and Mike

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Morgan. It's gonna be a funway to end the morning show. The
name of the book tanked in Cincinnati, Fortune and calamity in the beer business.
That's you beat Bud. I'm JoeBiden, and I approve this message.
Keep your stupid mouth shut. Ishould have taken Jay Ratlis's advice yesterday
and not showing up for the debate. Will there be a second debate?

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Most everybody's saying hell no, DannyLease and covering for Joe's trackers off today
saying hell no, there will beno debate too. Let me hewing the
bone. He's got a couple ofcallers online. I invite your calls as
well. Get your thoughts, opinions, comments. Maybe you so something that

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the rest of the world apparently didn'tsee last night, Key or Steve.
Rather, we'll get Keith, Max, Steve, welcome, thanks for calling
this morning. Morning, Good morning, Brian, how are you. I'm
doing pretty good? Pleast have towake up and see that Joe Biden performed
magically and wonderfully and appeared coherent.Well, I always like to get to

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bed by eight thirty to nine,but I couldn't help myself last night,
so I watched that debacle. Andthe one person I think who we can
lay the blame at her feet isthe illustrious I believe, neurosurgeon, doctor
Jill Biden. Oh my heavens,this woman should be ashamed of herself to

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put her husband in such a positionthat the whole world sees his inability and
is incompetent. I don't know howthat woman sleep to night, but she
is in love with being first lady. That probably is true. Yeah,
I've read the words elder abuse likenineteen times this morning. Elder abuse,

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elder abuse. Yeah, can't can'targue with you. Yep. If she
really was an out, doting,loving wife, she would have pulled the
plug on this and these antics alonetalk time ago. Yeah. You have
a wonderful weekend too, Steve DemocratKeith, welcome in the Morning show.
Happy Friday to you. Hi.How you doing? Can you hear me?

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I can loud and clear, SteveKeith, Keith Rother, Sorry,
I'll forgive you. Uh. There'sa scary aspect of this debate. Nobody's
talking about. What's that? Andthat's the fact our adversaries out there,
Russia, tyn in North Korea,Iran Parrist, et cetera, seeing this
debate and everybody knows now publicly whata bad shape mentally and physically Joe Biden

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is in, and our enemies rightnow might be like a bunch of sharks
smelling blood in the water. Icannot argue with you, Keith, I
cannot. That thought crossed my mindhalf a dozen times last night. You
know, Jijenping is watching this rightnow, Vladimir Putin is watching this right
now, the Ayatola is watching thisright now. You know, Kim Jong

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Un, I mean We could goon and on and on every terrorist organization
out there, but rest is sued. Joe Biden has not been calling the
shots during this presidency four while sincethe presidency began. Other people behind the
scenes are obviously making decisions on hisbehalf since he clearly is incapable of making
them himself, So it'll be statusquo. So you're gonna have to rely
on the unelected, unknown, unnamedpeople behind the scenes to make sure that

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we stay out of harm's way orrespond appropriately if Jijienping decides that this elderly,
feeble minded old man is so badthat now is the time to invade
Taiwan. Can't you can't. Uh, there's a situation that's going on in
the world right now nobody's talking aboutin regards to Asia that everybody is talking

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about Taiwan. But what's very scaryright now is what has been going on
between China and the Philippines. Uh, that's very scary right now because they've
had a lot of problems with stuffgoing on on that area there where South
China and the Philippines Sea. Men. Yeah, absolutely, China's basically said

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the entire South China Sea is thereas they're busy building islands and military bases
all over the place there, andit's certainly not for purposes of peaceful diplomacy.
They are busily building these installations andhave been for years and years on
multiple presidents. Watch YEP. Can'targue with you anyhow. I five went
three seven, eight hundred eighty twoto three taco with pound five fifty on

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AT and T phones. Five starteddown on Friday and a happy one to
you one r from now Tech Fridaywith Dave Hatter, will talk about the
West Claremont schools getting hit by acyber attack, Surgeon General warning labels on
social media platforms and digital sharing warningfor couples apparently, don't share your password
with your spouse. Let's go tothe phones. I got a couple of
callers online five one three, seven, four fifty, eight hundred and eight

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two to three talk. We'll startwith Kirk order which they receive Kirk,
Happy Friday, Welcome, good morning, what a great morning. But the
best part of that debate was theend. You had eight analysts on CNN
and they all made a very clearmessage to the Obama and to the Clintons,
get better, go to the bullpen. Get better get this guy off

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the mount because it's the first inningthat Donald Trump is hitting a thousand.
Okay, Kirk, I agree withyou. They were all saying the same
thing. Obviously, it's been widelyreported they're considering a backbencher somebody else.
Gavin Newsom's name keeps coming up,and you know, you got to Michelle
obamah blah, who's it gonna beAnd is it actually a good thing,
Kirk, because we all know JoeBiden was not pulling ahead of Donald Trump.

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We all know Joe Biden's a feebleold man, as confirmed last night
without question to anybody anymore. Youcan't cheap, fake argue yourself out of
that one. So is it possiblethat they grab somebody who can more likely
defeat Donald Trump. I think Clayand Buck hit it on the head.
They're gonna go after rerechend Wickmurn becausethey can't afford to lose the rust help.

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That sounds like a logical conclusion.I don't know which direction they're going
to go, but I think thatsounds a lot better than Gavin Newsom,
because Gavin Newsom has a terrible recordto run on his state is just going
to hell in a handbasket. Goodcomment, k I appreciate the call,
my friend. Let's see what checkJohn, You're next. Welcome to the
show. Thanks for calling this Friday. Good morning, Brian. How are

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you, sir? I'm doing prettywell and I hope you can say the
same. What's on your mind today? Well, I noticed something during the
debate that I'm not sure a lotof people did. I'm not a friend
of ideologists or whatever. I didn'tstay a holiday him last night, but
around around nine Eastern Standard time duringa debate, Joe Biden adjusted something in

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his ear and looked off stage witha very perplexed look on his face.
Readjusted something in his ear again,which may hint that he may have had
an earpiece. He may have.Well, I'll tell you what, God,
we can speculate, and I thinkthere's every justification to speculate along those
lines. Of course, you're notsupposed to have any aides or equipment or

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nodes or ptole properties or I thinkthat was part of the rules. But
let's just assume for the sake ofdiscussion he had an earpiece in there.
Doesn't that make things worse? Well, and I would actually agree with you,
and I agree with all three colorsthat you've spoken to before me.
Last night was a complete disaster.I typically go to bed like you do.

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I go to bed very early becausethe morning, and I actually stayed
up to watch the thing and itwas a complete debacle. Yeah, and
then to see that, it's likeoh and seeing him as soon as he
touched his ear, looked off stage, put his ear back to cut back
on straight Trump. Yeah, Ican't. I can't comment expect it.

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I just acknowledged that maybe that didhappen. I didn't catch it at the
time. But let's say either thething conked out, which will answer for
why his performance was so bad,or he had assistance in his ear and
it didn't do him a wits worthof good. That's why I say that's
almost worse working ear piece. Itdidn't help him in iota. He would

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have had wits to have it worked. Anyway, I'll let you go and
you have other callers. I appreciatethe call this morning, John, have
a fantastic weekend. Five one three, seven fifty five hundred eight hundred eight
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point thirty five. If you havekersee talk station, feel free to call.
Otherwise, maybe get into a stackof stupid or we can just talk
about the debate last night, whichwould qualify sort of right, can you
play John the Fisherman by forty evenin Joe Strecker's not here and he's not
Danny Gleeson cover and form pretty muchbetting and I'm not a betting guy.

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Everything I have that Jusstrecker is notaway listening to his favorite Bumper song.
Wow, Danny even told me he'dbe sleeping. I know he's got He's
so quiet in his house now.He's such a happy, happy man since

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he's divorced. Congratulations Chewstreker's go tothe phone five and three seven two three
talk again order in which they receive, which means we're starting with Jacob.
Jacob, happy Friday to you.I'd be Friday, bro, And how
you doing. I'm doing pretty well. I hope you can say the same.
Mind So, building on the lastcollar, he was talking about the

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earpiece. I don't buy it.I just saw the video. It looks
like he scratched his ear and bottomline is it's a throwaway point because he
did so crappy. So whether ornot here ear piece, yeah, I
don't think he did. Honestly,Yeah, I don't think it matters either
way, because even if he didcheat, he didn't do a good job
right. It'll be worse if hehad one. Can you imagine if you
have a cheating if you are literallycheating and you did that poorly, I

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mean, what does that say?That speaks even more volumes about the guy's
incompetence. Yes, exactly. ButI noticed something even more so than an
earpiece. There's a scene where someonewalks in front of the camera. It
cuts the picture of Biden out,switches over to Trump, and then about
a minute later you can see Bidenshuffling through some papers. They were allowed

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to take their own notes. Okay, I wouldn't. I said that too
to my wife. I go,wait a minute, what's he got there?
And she reminded me they were allowedto have a pen and paper to
write down points, so when theother guy's talking, you can do your
rebuttal points in front of you andjot him down. So I just passed
it off as that, Okay,Okay, I really doubt that under the

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circumstances, and given the U literallytens of millions of people who were tuned
into that, that they would haveallowed for any Shenanigans. Even I don't
think even CNN would stoop that lowas to give him notes or the opportunity
to get around what the parameters were. So any I appreciate the call,
Jake. If you have a fabulousweekend. We'll get over to Mississippi.
James. Always good to hear fromyou. Happy Friday, sir. All

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right, good morning, Brian.What it's on your mind today, James?
Oh? Yeah, you know onepoint. I look at the whole
thing, but one point that Ipicked out when Trump said he could stop
that war. Yeah, now stopthe wars over there in no time.
And I said, now, waita minute now, if he could have

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done that, if he friends withthem, if they respected him, if
that man had to stop the warhe been in shoe in for the president,
dictator, whatever it is he wantedto be in the United States,
if he could stop them wars,it wouldn't beat no debate. It could
Trump could own the world. Yeah, if he could go stop the wars,

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I thought he over I kicked hiscoverage on that one a little bit.
I mean, you know, areyou seriously before I'm even sworn in,
I'm going to stop this war?I and again, I was thinking
of world leaders, like maybe VladimirPutting is tuned in watching this, listen
to Donald Trump make a statement likethat, going, oh, really,
how you plan on doing that,buddy? Yeah? So I didn't do

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it? Yeah, I listen.I guess we're going to find out,
aren't we. Right? Hey,if he could do it, his team
and whoever else should have had himto go over there at least call cease
and he would have owned the UnitedStates the whole world. Yeah, that's
probably right, James, up toother people's you know. Yeah, I'm

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with you. Take care of achance. Always get here from you if
I went three seven two three talks. I mean, seriously, I Trump
did a great job maintaining his composure, but I think he missed a lot
of opportunities to more fully elaborate,to articulate positions and the direction he and

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how he plans on accomplishing getting usto this better place that we keep talking
about, sort of on a tenthousand foot level. But again, Biden's
performance was so terrible that it justnegates any criticism of Donald Trump. By
comparison five to forty five fifty fivecarcitate toxation do have stack as stupid.
I love hearing from you though,I'm enjoying this back and forth on the

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debate, and of course sort ofthinking into the back of my mind,
maybe you can come up with one. So let's assume, for the sake
of discussion, they are going toget rid of Joe Biden again. The
writing is on the wall. Whowould it be? Five to fifty one,
A fifty five Caarsity Talks station,Happy Friday, tech pride of a
day of Adam enjoying the conversations aboutthe debate last night, the aftermath and

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what has been and uniformly determined tobe turwell winner Donald Trump and a disaster
for Joe Biden. Haven't run itat anybody who feels any differently from the
most left wing sits and punted itto the most conservative outlets, a uniform
agreement. It's like bipartisan consensus thismorning. Here, let's go to the
phones. So we've got a coupleof callers online order in which they receive,

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which means we start with Mark,Mark, thanks for calling this morning,
Baur and Brian, So a coupleof things real quick. Uh.
Biden stumbled on his very first questionright out of the gate, and he
did could tell that he just Idon't think they jacked him up last night.

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I don't think they had him onanything to didn't seem like to give
him additional energy. Didn't seem likeit at all. And the first thing
that I noticed was was the starkcontrast between the ability to speak right off
the bat on the very question.I did notice him touching his ear a
few times and looking off stage,but like you said, that they were

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trying something like that didn't do himany good. Confused me if I was
advising Trump. You know, theone thing that he did and he wasted
time was going back at Biden aboutcertain things and back and forth about who
was the worst president. And youknow what, he missed the golden opportunity

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to get information out to people asto what I'm going to do in the
future to get this country back whereit was before and this is the these
are the steps that I'm going totake, and he but he kept going
back to these trivial, you know, back and forth childish things that Biden,

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you know, the personal attacks.And then lastly, this morning,
right before I left the house andturned the TV off, I caught a
news clip of after the debate.Biden was trying to walk to the edge
of the stage and it looked likehe couldn't even hardly walk to the edge
of the stage. And there wasdoctor Jill Biden to help him down off
the stage, and another aid likethey almost had to lift him off the

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edge of the stage onto the floor. Yeah, because he is so feeble
the man cannot walk in Like theother caller said, doctor Jill Biden ought
to be absolutely ashamed of herself.A lot of people coming to that conclusion.
Like I said, elder abuse wasmentioned regularly throughout the news reporting this

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morning. You know anyhow, Mark, I appreciate your observations in your comments.
Let's get Pete in before we runout of time here. Pete,
thanks for calling this morning. HappyFriday, Sandy you Brian Well, I
was thinking, is as dumb asthe Democrats? They might bring Hillary back
up off the bench. I'd loveto see a rema so so Trump could
pummel her again. Yeah, well, I that frightens me a little bit.

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You know, he beat her onetime. Whether they would dust her
off and bring her back is certainlya possibility, But don't be so certain
that you know, it couldn't gothe other way. The other way,
that's my big worry. We've obviouslygot this issue with Biden, or they
do. It's not my problems,theirs. He's not gonna be able to
make it. They're not gonna bitupawn him off as somebody who just had
a bad night. All right,those days are over, cheap fake,

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those days are over. It's nowwhat do we do? Do we stick
it out with him? Do welet him finish up his term? Is
he going to say I do notaccept the nomination of the party. Don't
know, but there is the optionof them picking someone else at the convention
if he does say I'm not goingto accept it, or they or they
tell him he can't, you know, take him in the back room.
That means there's a possibility of someonewho is more capable than Joe Biden and

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represents a viable option for all thedie hard haters out there who have trumped
arrangement syndrome. And there are aton of them, so careful what you
hope for. That's the only takeawayI got from the whole th last night
is they may end up with somethingbetter. Fifty five ifty five k SEE
talk station. Feel free to call. Got plenty of time. We're going
to get to Tech Friday's Dave Otterat six thirty some interesting stuff to talk

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with him about. And later inthe program eight oh five, Alex Chreanta
Filo, head of the Ohio RepublicanParty, will offer his comments about the
debate last night. That'll be againat eight oh five. I'll be right
back after the news six oh fiveat five KRCD Talk Station, Happy Friday.
I stayed up for the whole thing, watched whole debate last night,

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not a usual thing for me,but I still managed to get up at
two thirty and with a smile onmy face. Although you know, we're
happy that Biden did poorly, we'rehappy that Biden revealed himself to the rest
of America who has been maybe perhapsoperating out of the misperception that he is
coherent and with it that No,we didn't see one ninety minute cheap fake

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cream, Jean Pierre. This wasreal life. This was real and live,
and it was an unmitigated disaster.And that not my words, I
mean the unmitigated disaster of the wordshe used by quite a few pundits on
both the right and left. Startedout the morning show by by talking about
how uniform all the reporting is.We've got a bipartisan agreement that even though

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Donald Trump was not perfect last night, Joe Biden epically failed. It was
a Flanken Hindenburg moment for Joe Biden. It's funny because Danny Gleason's covering for
Joe didn't get a chance to watchit because he knew he had to get
up early early this morning. Hewas just catching up on some of the
highlights. He goes, oh mygod, like, yeah, it was
that bad. It wasn't it,Danny, Yeah it was. Yes.

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It's like absolutely, there's no rehabilitating. You cannot polish that excrement. Period.
Now are they going to get ridof him? Was that the point
of having this debate this early becauseeveryone behind the scenes knew damn well that
that Joe Biden saw last night asthe Joe Biden that they get every single
day, and then at some pointthey were gonna have get rid of him.

(32:00):
So what he needed to do isthrow him out there to the wolves
and let everybody see, real time, real life, what an epic failure
he is and use it as anopportunity to dump him for the convention.
I've been suggesting that was going tohappen, happen if for guy last predicted
it would happen before last Christmas.And obviously I was wrong on that.
But you see there's still time aheadof the convention to do exactly that.

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So with that in mind, whomight that person be? Is anybody going
to rise like phoenix from the ashesof the Democrat Party right now and and
actually presents someone who may represent amore viable option for voters than Biden.
Let's see what Steve's got this morningfive one, three, seven, four,
nine fifty eight hundred and eight twothree talks Steve, thanks for calling.

(32:45):
Happy Friday to you. Good morning, Brian. Hey, I want
to channel Tom and say don't voteDemocrats. We know Biden is the puppet
master for the puppet Remember all thepuppet masters things like the nord Stream one
and two, the fact that hisadministration attacked the over the horizon radar deep

(33:09):
within Russia that could have precipitated WorldWar three. In my opinion, that
was a very dangerous event. Andnow they have warships down by Cuba.
Rounte ninety one was a total tragedy, but you look at the fifty one
intelligence agent. Everybody who props upthe puppets needs to be taken into account

(33:37):
and we should never look we should. I cannot say it loud enough.
Don't vote Democrats? Now, canI throw in one more things? I'm
going to call into Ron Wilson inthe morning and discuss liberty ty with Ron.
He'll have me that will. Weneed happy thoughts because right now the

(33:59):
world is on fire and I don'tknow if we can even turn it around.
But let's try start with liberty.Teeth always in favor of trying.
Never give up hope. And ifyou give up hope, then what do
you have left? Appreciate the callsto you five one, three, seven,
four nine, tennity two to threetalk. Yeah, I did.
Tax reformed, uh. I wouldcreate money to help strengthen our healthcare system,

(34:22):
making sure that we are able tomake every single solitary person eligible for
what I was able to do withthe with the COVID Excuse me, I'm
dealing with everything we had to dowith. We finally beat Medicare anybody have
any idea what that means? Andthat's the other thing, I was a
little erk. Donald Trump did saythat at one point, I really don't

(34:45):
know what he said. At theend of that sentence, I don't think
he knows what he said. Andthat was a great observation at one point
because it was incoherent babble coming outof Joe Biden's mouth. Donald Trump could
have made that point quite a fewtimes. When Joe Biden got done mumbling,
it's like, you know, aren'twe having a debate here? Like,

(35:06):
how am I supposed to respond tothat? It wasn't even in the
English language. So I just acrossthe board, everyone uniformly agreed it was
a disaster. And again I wentto mother Jones website this morning to see
what they had to say, andtheir op ed guy was of the same
mindset. Headlined from CNN, weare ft get little astrosses there because you

(35:31):
know what word that is supposed tobe Democrats despair for Biden debate performance.
It just took minutes for Democrats torealize how bad it was going. Democrat
who works with Biden, there's allkinds of behind the scenes comments floating around.
He looks and sounds terrible. He'sin coherent, another one horrific.

(35:53):
So should someone else top the Democraticticket? Does that give anybody Paul concern
if you're a big Trump supporter,that someone better than Biden might emerge?
So I mentioned Whitmer earlier, certainlya possibility. I think Gavin Newsom is
probably a bad choice. Obviously alot smarter than Biden, comes across better,

(36:14):
mister used car salesman polish, buthis state's going down to toilet.
I mean, I don't know howyou can make a great case for yourself
that you need to be president ofthe United States of America when people are
fleeing your own state in massive numbers, when you've got sanctuary cities and feces

(36:34):
all over the place, literally,you know. So anyhow, Hillary Clinton's
name floating around, and then there'salways Michelle Obama floating around. And that's
someone that I have never ever believedwants to run for office. She has
no interest in it. She appearedas if she hated the role of being
first Lady, and she maintained sucha pretty low profile given how prominent she

(36:55):
could be. If she was likeHillary Clinton showing up literally everywhere at every
time, she could have been thatperson and probably could have been a formidable
challenger, But I don't know.I really am not sure at this point
what they're going to do. Andof course they're gonna have to get Biden's
consent, because in order to makethis happen, Biden's gonna have to finish

(37:16):
out his term. He's gonna torefuse the nomination of the party, finish
out his term in order to preventthe Democrats from being stuck with Kamala Harris.
Go ahead, twenty fifth Amendment andare hav him quit right now?
Then you got a president Kamala Harris, and then she would be the incumbent.

(37:36):
The Democrats are frightened to that is, they're frobably more frightened to run
Kamala Harris against Donald Trump than theyare to let Joe Biden finish it out
and try to get the job donebefore November. She's an idiot Democrats.
You would think that they would gowith the woman of color. Woman check
got the box checked, black check, We got that box checked. The

(38:00):
only problem is she lacks the cognitivefunction. She's more akin to with Joe
Biden than she is to a viablepolitical candidate. Everybody knows that so I
just couldn't believe my eyes last night. Bitter truth for Democrats Journal Rights Editorial

(38:21):
Board after yesterday is that Trump's liabilitiesmay not matter if Biden is their primary
nominee. Trump at least looked vigorous, reminded voters of the pre COVID economy.
Biden looked like a feeble man.No Americans should want going head to
head with mister Putin or China's JiJinping. One inevitable question is why those

(38:42):
closest to mister Biden let him runagain. We and many others warned them
it was clearly a selfish act forhim to seek a second term. But
did they really think that they couldhide his decline from the public for an
entire election campaign. It's hard tobelieve they wanted to early debate as a
way to change It's hard to believethey wanted this early debate as a way

(39:04):
to change the campaign in their favor. Maybe they wanted the debate to change
the campaign period as an excuse toget Biden out. Call him in the
back room, tell him it's notas night. You need to reject the
nomination if you even get it.Let's see what West side Jim's got this
morning, West saided, welcome tothe program, my friend. Always a

(39:27):
pleasure hearing from you. Good morning, Brian. Yeah, I actually take
that thing. I'm gonna go backand watch watch it today, but I
don't know if I should. MyHimpo explodes, that's funny. Who goes
back and watches the presidential debate asecond time? I understand, No,
it was that historic. I I'mnot arguing with you that it's not,

(39:47):
you know, appealing on some levelto do it. It's like, because
you can't believe your eyes that hedid so poorly last night. Exactly.
Well, I got some points Iwrote down here. Listen to everybody calling
it this morning and listen to you. Of course, first point is I
wonder if they'll have a second debateifter that bs in no way. Now
Danny's in there shaking and said,we had this conversation earlier that there's no

(40:10):
way. Yeah, they'll come upwith they tried to use a cold for
an excuse last night. They'll comeup with something else for the next one.
Now, this was a character assassinationhour and a half last night on
both ends, and that's what kindof bugged me. I wish they would
have stuck a little bit better toyou know, the things that like the

(40:31):
economy and so forth. They hiton it, but I wish they would
have spent ten minutes explaining what they'regoing to do exactly and how bad it
is and so forth, and theywould just throw their points in. But
I agree with you completely on that. That was one of my criticisms of
Trump. He missed a lot ofopportunities to stay on point and talk about

(40:52):
policy, you know, and asmuch as a nonliberal as I am that,
you know, I thought CNN didn'tactually pretty decent job in this thing.
I gave him credit this morning forthat, just that they asked some
very difficult questions of both candidates.They did not come across as very biased
at all. And that was anobservation I made earlier in the week to

(41:12):
the Breitbart Political letter or that maybeCNN will use this as an opportunity to
try to rehabilitate its credibility, AndI would say that they did a lot
toward that last night. Yeah,I think they probably took so much criticism
in the past they wanted to shinea little bit. But you know,
the only problem I had with themwas when he wanted into the golf scores.
I don't need three minutes talking abouttheir golf scores and Biden saying he

(41:36):
can hit it for like five thousandyards and all this kind of crap.
They must be talking about Putt puttwith him, because there's no way in
hell that he could hit a golfball anywhere. But that was a conversation
that should not have taken place,No, not at all. You know,
one thing that was missing last night, and I know this is kind
of tongue in cheek, was missinga laugh track because some of this stuff
was so silly that you would think, you're almost like you said, if

(41:58):
you woke up out of a covedor something like that, you would think,
what the heck's going on? Here? Is just the best that the
demo? I feel, is thisthe best that the nation has? You
know? I mean, I meanthe rest of the world is what was
watching that last night? Some ofthe color callers made this, A lot
of people made it, but I'msure Vladimir Puttin was watching a real time,
you know, and he and andand and and Trump declared that he

(42:21):
could resolve the situation in Ukraine beforehe was even sworn in. Yeah,
I'd like a little flash on thebones of that statement right there. Anyway,
it was not perfect for Trump,but it was epic. It was
Hindenburg for Biden, So that takesaway some of those focus. If he
could solve it, he would doit for the country now right, he
didn't have to wait until he runs. I think that was Mississippi James's point

(42:43):
earlier. Yeah, I don't feelsorry for Biden. I feel sorry for
the Democratic Party and his country forthem to throw him out there when there's
so many probably better people out there. I mean, on both sides.
I feel embarrassed that that's what we'vegot to, you know, through out
there, because this guy's got socalled I know there's generals that are holding

(43:05):
him back, but he's got hisfinger on that button. And I don't
want anybody to watch that last nightand thinks that this guy could actually push
a button and start one or threeor take care of a country. I
mean, I know that, likeI said, they're safeguards that he couldn't
do this. I just think,for whatever reason, the Democratic Party actually
thinks that he can win a secondterm. They're crazy. Agree with you

(43:28):
on that didn't call for an argumentthis morning, west side, Jim,
always a pleasure hearing from you.To take care of yourself and we have
a wonderful weekend. So twenty three, I feft you have KCD talk station
and tech part of with Dave hadare coming up in the next segment.
Always enjoy that, David, arehappy, It's Friday. Happy debates over
got that one under the handles ofhistory and an epic fail on the part

(43:50):
of Joe Biden. See what Luke'sgot this morning. Luke, thanks so
much for holding Welcome to the show. I appreciate it. Good morning.
So one of the things that Ihaven't really heard disgust is and maybe people
forgot this debate was totally scheduled byJoe Biden's people. Yeah, they picked
all the rules and there were nonegotiations about the rules. Right. I

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think these rules were a major detrimentbecause he cannot say that Trump badgered or
bullied in He can't say he wasdistracted by a crowd. He had the
exact same amount of time and lookedhorrible. Yes he did. That's Joe
Biden without notes, without a teleprompter, and even if he had notes,
and a teleprompter. He's been demonstrablybad at even trying it with that,

(44:35):
so yeah, epic fail. Andagain, maybe that was the point of
it. Maybe his handlers knew thatthis was going to happen. There's enough
time now to replace him at theconvention. That's certainly a specula everybody's out
there speculating about that right now.And you know they knew he was going
to come across this way. Ithink there's everybody behind the scenes works with
him every day. They know howfeeble minded he is. How could you
miss it? Appreciate the call,Luke. Let's get Joe in for the

(44:58):
break. Joe, welcome to theshow. Happy Friday to you, Happy
Friday, and God bless as always. Brian, thank you, Joe,
You're welcome. You know I wouldhave great with your previous callers until doctor
Jill Biden set me straight. Ithought it was a dumpster fire. But
he answered all the questions, youknow, And I just wonder did he

(45:20):
get a bubble bath in his favoriteFunstone episode as a reward vanilla ice cream
with sprinkles. It's probably right,Joe nicely and that segment, as we
head on into tech Friday with DaveAdder Don't go away. Interest its Dave
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segment here. Always enjoy our conversationsas frightening as they can be. Dave
Hatter, Welcome back. Always mypleasure. Good to be here, and
you know I love to chat aboutthis stuff with you. Did you watch

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the debate last night? Uh?No, I did not, Brian,
you didn't. That's okay, Idid not. I did not. It's
quite all right because I knew Iwould just be frustrated. No, actually,
I think you might walk away withgoing okay. Yeah, I kind
of figure that's what it was.He is not with it one hundred percent,
Joe Biden anyway, don't have topress you on politics right now.

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Steering clear of that, let ustalk about Hey, look it says right
here. Quoted in Fox nineteen localreporting by Brenda or or Donez, tech
expert Dave Hatter, well that justconfirms it for me. Well, I
appreciate that, thanks, Brian.Yeah, this was a wild week with

(46:44):
this particular story. And it's sadly, Brian, we just see the same
stuff over and over and over,and it's so frustrating for me as someone
in the business trying to help peopleprevent these kind of things because so often
and now this is just my opinion, and I'll speculate on what happened there
based on what they've released so far, but I think so many organizations just

(47:07):
don't take this stuff seriously. Imean, I understand you see, you
know, okay, I got allthis technology and it's just an expense.
You know, it doesn't produce revenuefor me. But unfortunately, as we
talk every week, and you justsee these examples, case after case after
case where businesses have extensive downtime whichcosts a lot of money. Some don't

(47:30):
recover from these sorts of attacks,or they you know, just have money
stolen straight up. So with thisWest Claremont School District thing, from what's
been reported so far, you know, they've lost almost two million dollars.
It appears to be, per theirpress release, some kind of social engineering
attack, and you know, Ispeculated in several TV interviews on this that

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if I had to guess based onwhat they've said, information was stolen or
found on the line they impersonated someone, they use spoofing. You know,
it could be email, could bephone call, could be text, any
of the above to get information theyneeded to get into someone's accounts. In

(48:14):
this case, I'm assuming their bankaccounts. From the way this is described
was Claremont Local School District's bank account. Yeah, because one point seven million
dollars are gone now. It couldalso be fraudulent invoices or something like that.
I mean, because the thing wesee all the time, Brian,
if you just take this strand,I mean, I have firsthand knowledge of

(48:36):
many companies in town who've lost tensof thousands to hundreds of thousands to millions
of dollars where they have bad passwords, they don't have multifacture authentication turned on.
The bad guys get into their account, get into an account, okay,
and they lurk around. And here'sthe thing that's often I think misunderstood

(48:57):
or overlooked. If you're in acountry somewhere where there are no jobs,
no money, and no opportunity butyou have the Internet, You've got plenty
of time on your hands, andany money you can steal is a win
for you. Yes, And inmany of these countries there's there's no law
enforcement who is going to extradite youto, no extradition treaties, right,

(49:20):
yeah, good luck trying to getsomebody in that you even identify them,
you're not going to have them uphere in the front of a quart or
anything. And in many cases,you know, these countries turn the blind
eye to this or or possibly facilitateit. Yes, that's the Chinese Communist
Party for you, right there.Or North Korea. You know, the
FBI claims North Korea makes about twobillion dollars a year in cybercrime to run

(49:42):
their government. So if I havea lot of time on my hands and
I can just get in, ifit takes me nine months to steal one
point seven million dollars from you,it's worth nine months. You know.
In the business, we call itdwell. Time they get in, they
lurk, they dwell, they look, they they probe, they find of
vulnerability. And in many cases it'sonce I'm in, I'm in people's mail.

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I see who they're talking to.Oh, you send invoices regularly to
these customers. Yeah. Now I'mgoing to take your invoice, I'm going
to make a copy of it,I'm going to change the payment information.
I'm going to send your invoices toyour customers. But it now has my
bank information on it. I've seenthis dozens of times, and I'm sure
something like that happened here. Becausethey claim it's not ransomware. They claim

(50:27):
no information was stolen. So themost likely thing is either A it's some
sort of fraudulent payment like that,or B they were just able to access
accounts. They said, sophisticated socialengineering. I convinced someone I'm your IT
department, I need certain information youhave the same password on your bank account
or something like that. And nowtwo million dollars and it's gone maximizing the

(50:52):
return on investment just through some littlelurking efforts. It makes perfect sense to
me, Dave. Let's pause fora minute and find out why the surgeon
Jenna wants to put warningly on socialmedia that snects with excuse me, Tech
Friday's Dave had Er, since we'rewalking about krc DE talk station, Since
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Your businesses computer needs sponsoring. Thissegment we call tech Friday, Dave hat
Er, Dave. Finally, thissounds to me something like the Surgeon General
is properly doing calling on Congress toput warning labels on social media platforms because
they have such a profound negative impacton young people. Yeah, you know,
Brian, I'm generally against this kindof thing. We talked about regulation

(51:32):
of this sort of stuff for along time, and even though this isn't
regulation, I agree with you.It feels to me like it's probably well
past the time. You know,study after study after study keeps coming out
talking about the negative impact social mediahas on young people, and I think,
to a large extent, it probablyhas somewhat of a negative impact on

(51:52):
all of us. Yeah, butyou know, when you look at young
people and you know, I knowyour kids are old like mine. My
youngest is sixteen. He had tospend a ton of time on this stuff.
But when you see kids with theirface in the phone all the time,
just doom scrolling away. And youknow we've talked before. There's there's

(52:13):
a guy whose name is escaping meat the moment. But he was one
of the original Twitter people and hecame up with the idea of this scrolling
to update the feed, and youknow, he talked about how the whole
idea of it was based on pullinga handle on a slot machine. I
mean, if folks go out andsearch, you'll you'll find this guy,
he's sort of a whistleblower, andsaying that, you know, he actually

(52:35):
felt bad about it seeing the impactthis has had on people over time,
but that it was really designed inorder to keep people on there as long
as possible. And you know,you pull that handle on a slot machine,
you get that little dopamine hit waitingto see what's going to happen.
That was the whole idea behind it. So yeah, I'm glad to see
the Search and General come out andsay there should be warning labels. Do

(52:57):
I think it'll make a difference.I don't know who did warn labels make
a difference on cigarettes. I thinkthere are people that argue that it has
over time. Over time, yeah, yeah, it's over time. It
needs to be accepted widely that it'sa bad thing in terms of the general
the general population. And then gradually, you know, because people will frown
upon the smoking, and you wererejected by society. If you're a smoker,

(53:22):
people tend to not go down thatroad anymore. And it's taken many
decades to get there, but avery small percentage of that people smoke.
Now, we just need to getthe idea that all these literally tens of
millions of people on any given socialmedia platform finally come to the realization it's
not doing them or their lives anygood and quit participating. You know,

(53:42):
there's two things, Brian. Youknow, thankfully I never smoked, tried
cigarettes back in the day, andI was like, this is terrible.
Why would anyone do this? Soyeah, but it had nothing to do
with that label. And you know, it's funny because I almost feel hypocritical
when I say I think this isa good idea, because increasingly, if
the federal government says something is good, I just assume it's bad or vice

(54:04):
versa. You know what I'm saying. It's a little hypocritical for me,
but in general, I think thisidea probably makes sentence, well, at
least to talk about it. Yeah, you know, whether you want to
force any given social media company toput some specific label like they did with
the cigarette companies. That's that's maybea different topic of conversation. But the
idea that the Surgeon General would bringthis up to people's attention and initiate a

(54:27):
conversation among people who might not otherwisehave one, I think is an important
step in the right direction. Iagree. I think that's good. And
before we're around of time, youknow what really needs to happen with this
stuff. In my opinion, it'sthe surveillance capitalism model that makes this stuff
bad. If you know, theymake money by collecting your data, they
make money by keeping you there aslong as possible. They make money with

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privacy washing and dark patterns to makeit difficulty to get out. If the
model weren't quote, this is free, if you paid some nominal fee,
use these things where they could makemoney and they didn't have all these perverse
incentives to collect your data and feedyou bogus stuff and keep you on there
and give you clickbait and so forth, I think it would be a lot

(55:12):
less dangerous to people's mental health andmore of a tool. It's it's the
model that's screwed up in my opinion. You know, but I don't know
how that gets fixed because people areaddicted to it. Well, it's free.
It's free, that's right. Andto make it not free, you
have to charge of service. They'remaking money off the data collection, so
if you take that out of theequation, there's no incentive for them to
offer the platforms. So will youpay for it? It's like going to

(55:36):
a news site. You know,Hey, that used to be free,
and now I got to pay fora subscription to that online newspaper. Wait
a second, sometimes you quit goingthere. Anyway, we'll continue one more
Tech Friday's day Hatter digital sharing.A warning to couples out there about sharing
passwords and the like. That's onemore with Tech Friday's Dave Hatter six forty
five. Right now, if youabout Karcity talkstation six, if you want
to pick about CARCD talkstation and plentyof time to talk to these ven o'clock

(56:00):
hour gets your response to the presidentialdebate last night, rather embarrassing for Biden.
Speaking of that, Alex Chironta Filoeight oh five of the Ohio chair
or to the Republican Party, heis going to give his comments and then
we'll hear from Brett Baker and MikeMorgan about their book Tanked in Cincinnati without
further ado. One more with TechFriday's Dave had Ter. Don't share your
passwords on Dave. Yeah, Brian, it might come back to bite you.

(56:23):
I thought this was some interesting research. So Nowwhare Bikes is a cybersecurity
company. They make primarily known forantivirus software. But they did a study.
They surveyed five hundred people, andthey found that thirty percent of them
said they regretted sharing location tracking withtheir partner, twenty seven percent worried their
partners, worried about their partners trackingthem through location based apps and services,

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and twenty three percent worth their currentpartner had accessed their accounts without their permission.
I think this is pretty interesting.Like you, I've been married for
a long time. My wife knowsall my passwords. I got nothing to
hide, you know. I willfrequently if my phone is sitting by her,
say hey, you know, doX Y or Z. I don't.
I don't care, but I canunderstand, Like if you're in a

(57:07):
new relationship, everything is going welland you say like, hey, you
know, let's let's share the Netflixaccount or let's share access to the ring
doorbell, or yeah, sure youcan, you can unlock my phone.
I could see where over time,especially if things go bad, that could
be problematic. Yeah, let's say, let's say, for example, you
break up, well, if youhave shared access to all the accounts,

(57:30):
who gets the account and as theypoint out in here, because they go
from this might be mildly inconvenient todownright bad in some kind of domestic violence
stalking type situation over time, youknow, and they point out out a
story which this is something I hadn'tthought of. A woman gets divorced,
ex husband bought the car, thecar was in his name originally. She

(57:52):
can't turn off the location tracking,So now you know, is that a
problem maybe, especially if you havea stalker type situation. I mean,
you know, we've talked before abouthow people will plant air tags on someone
to track them. Imagine if ifyou had a household full of these smart
items and then you get divorced andyour previous partner had access to all that

(58:14):
stuff, would you even know howto turn it off? Most people don't.
That's one of the problems, oneof the reasons why I hate this
IoT stuff to begin with. Peopledon't understand how to set it upright.
They don't understand how to update itwhen they know how to evoke someone else's
access and they quote in this story. According to a reporting for The New
York Times, sevesters of I'm Sorry, survivors of domestic abuse began calling support

(58:36):
lines with a bevy of new concerns, and they say, quote one woman
had turned on her air conditioner butsaid it switched off without our touching it.
And another said the code numbers ofthe digital LOCKETI front door changed every
day and she could not figure outwhy. Still another told an abuse helped
one she kept turing the doorbell ring, but no one was there. Now,
I think we've talked about Black Mirrorbefore. Black Mirror, if you

(58:58):
haven't seen it Brian as as aNetflix show, Yeah, it's so disturbing.
I hate it, dude, Iget you, I get you.
I can't really watch either, theone with the robot dog, which you
know we're almost there now, it'slike being suffocated with a pillows. But
there's there's a Black Mirror where awoman has a smart house and they sets
you up like she's got all thesegreat amenities and it does all this cool

(59:20):
stuff and then it just goes badand like everything, you know, the
burglar arm will stop going off,and of course it goes downhill from there.
So when I tell people that theInternet of things, so called Internet
of things, or as my guyMico Hipponent says, the insecure Internet of
Things is a privacy and security dumpsterfire, it is. And this just
goes to show one more example.Now, in this case, you know,

(59:42):
it's about giving access to people.I can remember my wife arguing with
my kids, like okay, Iwant to track your phone, you know.
And and now that the three olderones are, you know, full
grown adults, some of them stillhave that turned on. Some don't you
know me? Brian, My answerhas always been I don't. I don't
here. If you know where Iam, call me and I'll tell you.
I'll take a picture if you wantto see it. But you know,

(01:00:02):
I turn off the location tracking.I'm not using it, as we've
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then. Thanks, brother, havea great weekend. Thanks six fifty six

(01:01:06):
to ground. Take your calls.I'd love to hear from Get your reaction
to debate last night five one,three, seven, four, nine fifty,
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five fifty on AT and T phones. I'll be right back after the news

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seven oh five. Here fifty fivepair CD talk station. I'm very very
happy Friday to you. One hourfrom now. Reacting to the presidential debate
last night, Alex Jontifilo, headof an Ohio Republican Party, returns again
one hour from now to talk aboutthat should be a light conversation at the
end, and a funny one.You're gonna be talking with Brett Baker and

(01:01:50):
Mike Morgan. They've got a bookout Tanked in Cincinnati, Fortune and Calamity
in the Beer Business, So itshould be fun. This guy's have some
experience in the beer business and we'regoing to learn about that with their book
at the end of the show.In the meantime, love to hear from
you if you've got a comment.Of course, everybody's real. The left
is going absolutely crazy after last night'sjust epic fail. I've been calling it

(01:02:13):
the Hindenburg for Joe Biden yesterday.No one has anything at all positive to
say in spite of what you triedto hear, what Kamala Harris is trying
to convince you of. No,you saw it with your own eyes.
You heard it with your own ears. Sorry, Cream Jean Pierre. That
was not a cheap fake. Thatwas Biden as Biden is Biden, and
many are speculating this kind it's timeto replace him. It's time to do

(01:02:35):
it. Obviously demonstrably, you know, impaired from a cognitive standpoint, he
fumbled all over himself. He madegaffs, without a script, without his
usual teleprompter. He looked completely lost. And no, I don't think he
hit an earpiece in there. Ithink he was just scratching his ear And
even if he did, I thinkit's it's a nonsensical point to me because

(01:02:59):
if he was, did it helphim at all? It just makes it
worse. Editorial board of the Journal, for the good of the country more
than their party, Democrats have somehard thinking to do about whether they need
to replace him at the top ofthe ticket. And Trump did win the
debate, and I agree with theJournal on that one. Despite a mediocre

(01:03:21):
performance in his own right, hehad some great opportunities that he missed.
He had opportunities to develop a veryclear vision for his policies toward the future,
and he wasted some time, youknow, you know, with childish
cheap shots, which just really kindof burst my bubble a little bit,
but compared to Joe Biden, Trumpknocked it out of the park. I

(01:03:42):
mean, even on abortion, Bidenlost than that little exchange. So I'm
not quite sure what's going to happen. I guess you know when you got
CNN bashion don came from CNN.This was a game changing debate in the
sense that right now as we speak, there's a deep, a wide,
a very aggressive in the Democratic Party. It started minutes into the bait and

(01:04:03):
continues right now. They're having conversationsabout the president's performance they think was dismal,
and they're having conversations about what theyshould do about it. Some of
those conversations include, should we goto the White House and ask the President
to step aside? Other conversations areshould prominent Democrats go public with that call
because they feel this debate was soterrible? Some of them actually are who

(01:04:27):
might that person be? If youget that? The most likely scenario,
from my perspective is Biden will refusethe nomination of his party finish out his
term. That saves the Democrats fromthe Kamala Harris problem, which is if
Biden were to step down, KamalaHarris becomes president and the foregone conclusion that
she would be the nominee. Ugh. Democrats hate that idea, the losing

(01:04:48):
proposition without question question, is theresomeone out there that comes to the tip
of your tongue that would represent atough challenge for Donald Trump? At this
point, some have said Hillary Clintonmight bout that and bounce back. Michelle
Obama's name keeps coming up, andothers. But let's go to the phones.
I'd love to hear from you ifI went to you seven four,

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nine fifty five, eight hundred andeighty two to three, Talk Mike.
Thanks for calling today in a veryhappy Friday to you, sir. Hey,
good morning. How are you,sir? I'm doing really well.
I hope you can say the same. Yeah, you know, a little
tired from uh kind of a latenight, yeah, of debate. But
you know, I'm forty five yearsold and I'm really big into politics and
stuff, and I think I maybe the only one though I think this

(01:05:30):
was planned the whole time. Ireally do think that I'm like because the
Democrats know that they're losing in everypoll, and if you're on Twitter,
I've never seen so many Democrats tryto convince people of how to vote for
Democrats, Like they are so scaredand desperate right now, they don't know
what to do. So I thinkthis whole thing to debate was maybe we

(01:05:50):
should just let him sacrifice them andjust be like here to get him out
and to put like maybe Gavin Newsomin or somebody like that, because that's
their only hope. I agree,and I we were. I mean a
lot of people are speculating about that. Earlier in the program this morning,
me included they all his all hishandlers, and all the people who make
the decisions for Joe Biden and whowrite the scripts that he typically reads from

(01:06:13):
the telepropter, deal with him everyday, and they can come out in
front of us and through Cream JeanPierre and lie to us and say out
loud you know that, Oh mygod, you should see him behind the
scenes. He's as sharp as attack. Nobody's better, and nobody's brighter,
nobody's more brilliant than Joe Biden inthe room. You guys just don't see
him all the time like we do. That is a bunch of crap,
and we all know it. Theyknow last night was the real Joe Biden.

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And maybe that was one of thereasons that his handlers, because Joe
Biden is not the one that makesthese decisions. The party at large does.
Those puppet masters, they're the onesthat sent him out there, and
they probably knew full well that hewas going to underperform, and this provides
a wonderful springboard for them to say, Okay, you all saw it with
your own eyes, it is timeto pull the plug on Joe Biden.

(01:06:55):
Certainly, well, no question aboutit, no question. And I think
that you know, it's I don'tknow, if I'm Trump, I'm still
gonna be a little weary because weall know they're going to try to cheat
like crazy to get that thing in. So it's going to be like,
you know, it looks really good, but let's not get too excited yet.
You know, Let's not get tooexcited is an excellent way of putting

(01:07:15):
it, because I'm I'm actually concernedthat that will happen, that someone else
will be the alleged phoenix rising fromthe ashes of Joe Biden's presidency, and
that he will he or she wouldrepresent a more a stronger opponent to Donald
Trump. I mean, the worldis filled with Trump Paters, they have
a disdain for him that would causethem to vote for the decrepit Joe Biden,

(01:07:36):
even though he's incapable of managing theaffairs of the job, just because
he's not Trump. Imagine a moreviable candidate, someone who represents someone with
cognitive ability. Even my post somemore of a challenge. Respectfully, I
kind of disagree with that because Ithink the American people are so tired of

(01:07:56):
the Democrats lying and that they're they'renot they're not. And that's why I
think the Democrats are scared, becausethe American people are like, we're not
having any of it, no matterwho you put in, We're not having
it. Because this is the biggestonce you know, it's going to be
the same thing over and over forthe Democrats, and I think the American
people are that's why, like Isaid, Democrats are scared, because they're
like, they're not buying any ofour stuff no matter who we put in.

(01:08:17):
Well, I hope you're right onthat. And that's why when someone
mentions Gavin News and his name hascome up before this morning even and I
just think, no, I mean, Gavin, this has got nothing to
run on his state is going intothe toilet. They're in debt like nobody's
ever seen before. People are fleeingit. The taxes are outrageous, they're
upside down. They got severe immigrationproblem, feces on the streets in all

(01:08:39):
the major cities. We could goon and on and on. Is that
what we want for America? Idon't think that's a winning message. You
know, Whitmer's name came up earlier. You know, there's always that learning
looming thread of you know, MichelleObama's going to come in and I don't
think she wants the job, honestly, so they got decisions to make.
Fortunately, is not a problem thatlies in the Republican side of the Ledger

(01:09:00):
is owned by the Democrats. Mike, thank you, sir for calling.
I have a great weekend, myfriend. Let's get to Andrew. Andrew,
welcome to the program and a happyFriday to you. Good morning,
Brian Thomas, how are you goingthis morning? That is you, Drew
Pappas. It says Anderson Township upthere, Danny put your name on the
screen. I'm like, I betthat's Drew Pappas. Good to hear from
you, man. You watch thedebate Danny and Danny and I do not

(01:09:20):
have a relationship yet, but wewill soon. Yeah, listen, Yeah,
did I want listen to my voice? Did I watched the debate?
Of course, I watched the debate. I was Uh, we had a
great East Side Republican watch. Iwouldn't call it a party, but a
watch event at our local supporting ourlocal American Lecoln Hall. Cool. And

(01:09:44):
I gotta tell you, man,you I'd like everybody to keep one thing
in mind regarding this debate, becauseeverybody goes in with their preconceived by at
these First of all, if youcould have sacked the deck any more heavily
in Joe Biden's favor, given theformat, given the moderators, given the
questions, you'd be mistaken. Itwould not be possible. And Donald Trump

(01:10:11):
didn't care. He said, fine, I'm going. I don't care.
You challenge me. I'm there.And second thing I'd like to say to
everybody to put in their brain andthink about this. Joe Biden took a
whole week law did nothing for awhole seven days, was sequestered at Camp

(01:10:31):
David, doing nothing to come outand soil his depends like that is truly
a special amount of incompetency. Iwant everyone to keep that in mind.
It took a week of preparation forhim to come out and stand there.
His voice was I mean, immediatelywhen he started, I picked up on

(01:10:54):
his voice is weak. He lookshe had a distant lost look in his
eye. He stood there with it. You know, I only know very
few people, some of them localDemocrats, that stand there with their mouths
open just a gate. You know, most people are nose breathers. Very
few people are mouth breathers. Andand they and he stood there if you

(01:11:15):
looked at the camera many times juststood there awkwardly, blankly with his mouth
agape, trying to process where hewas and what he was doing there.
And I really agree with you,know everything you've said, because to wake
up as a Democrat in America todayyou are absolutely in a world of hurt.

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And I'll say one final thing.You can go down the list of
people they might replace them with,But I agree with the previous caller.
Look every day that goes by betweennow the Democrat convention, and they stick
with this horse, the American andit's already passed the time. The American

(01:12:00):
public is not going to tolerate abait and switch tactic here. Joe Biden
is their man. They're going tostick with Joe Biden. I think Joe
Biden, Jill Biden should be consideredfor elder espousal abuse, even what she's
doing with this poor man. AndI will tell you straight up, the
Democrats are panicking this morning. They'resweating bullets. They're probably fired the doctor

(01:12:23):
that came up with this cocktail ofdrugs. They probably injected him with to
get him out on the stage.I guess they will relieved what he found
the podium and went to the rightone and it was a train wreck.
Yes, you're you are correct.Donald Trump missed some opportunities there last night,
and sometimes it even I was beginningto get annoyed when both candidates were

(01:12:45):
bickering back and forth like two children. Yet the disdain these men have for
each other is palatable, it isstrong, and I think that the trajectory
for this election was clear night.You know, no matter where you sit,
if you're even mildly on the fence, you cannot argue that the strength

(01:13:06):
the energy was with Donald J.Trump going into this election cycle and Joe
Biden is a man on decline.This party is an idea of decline,
and the choice is very clear,well stated Drew Pappus. Always a pleasure
hearing from me, and I appreciateyou tuning in the morning show and offering
your comments this morning, seven seventeenfifty five cair Se the talk station,

(01:13:28):
Bobby, hang on, get yourcall next, folks. You are also
free to call this morning and jointhe observations and the sort of the conclusions
we're all reaching this morning. TwoHappy Friday. Lots of callers online offering
their comments about last night's disaster forJoe Biden. We're going to start in
the order which they receive. Bobby, thanks for holding over the break there.
Welcome Happy Friday, my brother,faith flagging family, and you know

(01:13:53):
all what goes with it. Yougot that right. I got a short
thing. And it's not Joe Biden'sfault. People have to understand, it's
Jill the staffers, his ex chiefof staff kom because it was just like
a public hanging yet last night wherehe didn't go ahead and drop hard enough

(01:14:14):
the first two or three minutes andhe left himself there dangling for battle hour.
Yeah, pitiful Hindenberg displayed. Itwas it was very sad to display.
And I think they all knew fullwell that's exactly what was going to
happen last night. But you gotto pull the band aid off. I
know, but you got to pullthe band aid off when you got cream
gmpare running around trying to suggest thatwe can't believe our eyes on our ears.

(01:14:35):
It's all cheap fakes, and youget ninety minutes worth of bumbling,
gaff filled Joe Biden, then yourealize where the problem lies. Appreciated Bobby
as always. Let's see what Jeff'sgot to say this morning. Jeff,
welcome to the program. Good tohear from you this morning. Good morning,
Brian, as always, you aretrue patriot buddy. Appreciate that,

(01:14:58):
brother. Yeah, I was justI was just so disgusted by obviously the
two hosts. You knew they weren'tgoing to be fair, but I just
loathed the fact that they made itsound like with every question, how oh,
mister Trump or President Trump, weknow that just like today, this

(01:15:21):
was bad under your regime too,and how are you going to And I'm
like, what are you talking about? Yeah? Like I was like everything
was well, I should say everything, but there was a hell of a
lot better back then. Well,you know, honestly, I was this
morning. I gave them credit forbeing not as biased as we would expect

(01:15:43):
them to be. I mean,Jake Tapper, that guy hates Donald Trump
and he's on record. But theidea that they asked such direct, very
forward questions and they put Joe Bidenon the spot with some very difficult questions
as well as Donald Trump. Butit was issues related. It was things
like the border and abortion and allthe things that people are talking about.
So you know, all in all, I didn't find much fault with CNN

(01:16:06):
and the platform. And here's whatyou get. I can't believe, you
know, I really couldn't believe thatthe Biden camp ever suggested or agreed to
a debate without notes, prepared notesup front, and you can definitely see
what that brought them. And hewithout notes, without a teleprompter that I
mean, even with them, theguy does a poor job. But you

(01:16:28):
see how terrible he was when hedidn't have anything pre prepared for him.
So yeah, maybe that was whatthey wanted. I don't know, we're
going to find out. I gotChris on the line talking about replacing Biden.
You have a great weekend, Jeff. Chris hang on out of time
in the segment, but I definitelywant to hear what your your thoughts are
on that topic. Five one,three, seven, four, nine fifty
five hundred, eight hundred and eighttwo three Taco Time five fifty on AT

(01:16:48):
and T Funds seventy twenty nine.I think about Kerr City Talk station and
after the top of the UR News, I was cheering out to Filo,
head of the Ohio Republican Party,offering his comments and thoughts about the debate
last night. I got lots ofcallers online going to order, which they
received. Everybody else, hang on, we're going to take with Chris,
who's been kind enough to hold Chris, Welcome to the program, Happy Friday,

(01:17:10):
Happy Friday, Brian, thank youfor taking a call. Happy to
do it. Hey, real quick. I just I don't understand the constitutionality
of the Democrats putting anybody else inbesides Kamala Harris. She is the next
in line for president. So isthere like something that I'm missing or that

(01:17:31):
you may have a little bit moreinsight in. Well, it's the Democrat
Party rules that govern It has nothingto do with the constitution. The Constitution
has parameters that qualify you for president, and that's all there is to it.
It doesn't mean any party has tonominate any given individual. And just
because Vice President Kamala Harris is secondin line under this current administration doesn't mean
she has any right to get theparty nomination. I mean, if Joe

(01:17:55):
Biden were to drop dead or quittomorrow, she would be president. But
that still does not assure or herthat she is going to get the delegate
votes at the Democratic National Convention.I mean, look at Bernie Sanders.
He was a lock, he wasgonna win, and the parties behind the
scenes cigars smoking, sort of,you know visual you can put with that,
the said, yep, nope,sorry, Bernie, not your night.

(01:18:15):
We're going with Biden because he's theultimate unitor. He's the one that
can beat Trump. And maybe theywere right on that because we saw what
we got. But last night,we all were right on the fact that
Joe Biden can't manage the job anymore. And it's on full display now and
there's no cream. Jean Pierre canspeak until she's blue in the face.
We're all convinced now that what wesaw with our own eyes over the last
seven years was in fact true.The guy ain't up to the job.

(01:18:40):
So now what is the big question? Could they nominate somebody else? Absolutely?
Will they be seeing could you hearfrom you, Chris, Let's see
what Ron's got. Ron from Florida, Welcome to the program. Ron,
Yeah, Brian Yeah, just sortof going along with the comments this morning.
This guy has been capable of runningthis his position for the last three

(01:19:01):
and a half years. Now,the question is who's been running it.
That's what we got to get tonext, because it ain't going to make
any difference if Democrats put somebody in, if we don't get the swamp out
of the government, Who're gonna havethe same thing. Well, a guy
couldn't do his job, And who'sbeen pulling all these strings making all these

(01:19:23):
decisions? It hasn't been that man. Well, that's true, and I
will acknowledge those out there screaming atthe radio on behalf of Joe Biden that
no, the president himself or herselfdoes not always make all of the decisions.
That's why surrounding you with great peoplelike Ronald Reagan was capable of doing
is the right idea? You know, presidents or Jackson, all trades masters

(01:19:44):
are nonelike everything. We all haveour areas of expertise. And you know,
some people are experts in foreign policy, and some are experts in economics,
and you know, you're president inexactlyan expert in all those things.
So what you have are other peoplearound you providing you with guidance and advice
and helping you make decisions. JoeBiden's case, Joe is not part of
the decision making process. We canall probably agree on that after last night.

(01:20:05):
So who ultimately is making them Lookto his cabinet, look to his
advisors. Maybe Barack Obama's hanging arounda lot. I know people suggest that
he's the one calling the shots,but this is kind of how our process
works. We just have it moreso in the presidency of Joe Biden.
Who is next? That looks likeSean? Sean, thanks for calling this

(01:20:26):
morning. Happy Friday to you.Yes, sir, you are a great
American cert Oh thanks, Sean.I appreciate that real quick. I got
a quick question. I'll hang upand listen to your answer. Sure,
have the Republicans successfully stopped the steal, so we don't go through what we
went through in twenty twenty. Havea good day, Serta h. You
take care. Well. You gotto believe in the steal if you think
they if you want to know whetherthey've stopped it. I know, and

(01:20:49):
in the aftermath of COVID and allof the reckless illegal changing of rules for
the election without legislative process in thevery his states that a lot of those
problems have been ironed out, thatwe've had quite a few years now to
clean up voter ranks and voter rolls. Although I wouldn't look to any Blue
states to have done that. TheRepublican states mostly have engaged in that process,

(01:21:12):
so there's less likelihood of any Shenanigansgoing on there. Remembers states are
up to their own rulemaking. Theycan and they have secured a lot of
the holes and the problems we foundin the twenty twenty election. So I'm
not one to believe that anything isbeing stolen necessarily, but you know,
it means logically and reasonably, especiallyin light of all the polling data up

(01:21:33):
until last night, and then lastnight's performance by Biden and epic failure the
idea that the Democrats somehow can winseems like an actual, if not,
you know, virtual impossibility. Soif they do win, is anybody going
to believe that they won? DonaldTrump qualified his It's his statement last night.

(01:21:56):
If it's a fair election and it'sdone properly, then he will accept
the outcome. Question is will itbe? Let's see we can get Ron
and we got a little go overtime a little bit and take Ron's call.
Ron, Thanks for calling this morning, and Happy Friday to you.
Ron. Hello, Yeah, you'reon Ron. You know, I have
been question about what CNN did asfar as did they use a soft focus

(01:22:21):
or a filter on Biden his face? I have no idea. Skill just
seemed to skill, just seemed toglow. I'm just wonder if they're trying
like a Kennedy Nixon thing. Well, yeah, I'm had a make up
by had a makeup artist, andso did Trump. They all do that.

(01:22:43):
I mean, that's that's one ofthe things you learned from the Canada
Nixy to Bay Nixon wouldn't refuse toput makeup on because he thought he was
going to be effeminine or something.Jack Kennedy comes out looking at the why
didn't focus, But it wasn't quitean focus there. I mean, you
could you could tell that when hedid like a I'm shot, did see
face on his face, but youknow, yeah, some are speculating they

(01:23:06):
had an earpiece in last and Isaw the video on that and it looks
like he scratched his ear to me, I mean, the answer for me
is, I don't know. Ultimately, it didn't matter. You can as
blur his face as much as youwant. What happened was the content that
came out of his mouth made himsound like or confirm for the rest of
us what we all knew all alongthat he is a well perhaps dementia leyden

(01:23:29):
individual who's passed his prime focus ornot. I understand that. I just
I just want to put that pastCNN to do that. Ultimately, it
doesn't matter. He tanked and failedmiserably seven thirty six. Right now we
can speculate all we want. Fiftyfive care see the dog station. That's
seven forty one. Happy Friday toyou. I hope you got some good

(01:23:53):
plans for the weekend. Joe Strekkeroff today Tod adequately taking Carabe as always
by Dan Gleason I appreciate Danny.He's also manning the phones. If you'd
like to call, I'd love tohear from you. Of course, doing
the post sportum of the debate lastnight and not a good night at all
for Democrats generally, And as Ipointed out in the Morning Show, when
I started off, I searched throughall the sites, as I typically do,

(01:24:16):
not all of them, but thereare thousands of websites out there,
and I went over to some ofthe most notoriously left wing sites, including
like mother Jones and no One.There's no one out there offering a defense
at Joe Biden's debate performance last night. The headlines are Biden disastrous nights stands,
the altered course of the election,Democrats privately discussing Biden on presidential ticket,

(01:24:42):
most important presidential debate ever, anunmitigated disaster for Biden and a route
for Trump. Democrats will have toface reality. Biden supporters media express shock
over Biden performers. I mean,there is a headlines from CNN and from
MSNBC, who really didn't have anythingto say either. Listen, you lost
MSNBC's joy read of all people,Joey Reid said, this. Democrats are

(01:25:09):
always panicking, They're always scared.Joe Biden's job was to reassure them tonight.
His job was to calm his party. He did not do that.
He did the opposite of that closequote. I wonder how to pick a
wall was for joy read that youeven have to be able to have to
utter those words? Just embarrassing Andit's embarrassing for the nation too. There

(01:25:31):
in line is a broader problem,very embarrassing for the nation, and I
think many have observed this morning.You know, you know that Vladimir Putin
was watching, which allows me topivot over and had be somewhat critical of
Donald Trump. He missed some goldenopportunities, I think to elaborate on his
policy positions and where he needs togo. But does anybody else out there

(01:25:57):
speculate and wonder how it is DonaldTrump thinks he can end the war between
Russia and Ukraine before he's even swornin. I was wondering about that last
night. Well, where did thatcome from? And why don't you elaborate
on how? And if you don'teven need to be sworn in, can
you go ahead and take care ofthat right now? Just the thought,
I don't know anyway, childish inmoments, but in the vast majority of

(01:26:21):
cases, I think Trump held ittogether pretty well, effectively fended off the
January sixth thing, pivoting right overto yeah, you know, here's what
was going on on January sixth,talk about the interest rate, the employment
rate, the economy percolating along,and all the positive things that occurred on
that date, and not having tofocus then on the riots, which,
of course he's not his fault orhis problem. He did nothing criminal in

(01:26:47):
connection with that going I'm going downthat road. But he's got a right
to free speech. I can saywhatever he wants. And he didn't tell
people to go over and storm theCapitol Building, for God's sake. But
he fielded the question, I thoughtquite well, I know, ever got
lost, stumbled over his words,no teleprompted to rely on and just a

(01:27:09):
sad display. So now what happens? That is the big question everybody's asking.
Are they gonna stick with him?Can somebody else replace him? Yes?
The answer is definitely and definitively yessomeone could replace him. But could
they get any traction? It was? Andrew Pappas earlier observed he didn't think
the American people would fall for it, that a bait and switch will people

(01:27:30):
will not abide a bait and switch. I don't know that I am convinced
of that, mainly because Donald Trumpis such a profound lightning run for so
many people. But before last night, you saw the polls, all the
inroads that Trump was making with membersof the black community, members of the

(01:27:50):
Hispanic community, typically very lockstep Democrats. I imagine there was a whole lot
of people in the Jewish community outthere in the United States that probably have
had it up to their eyeballs ofthe Democrat Party, even though they traditionally
as a people lockstep vote for Democrats, and working class folks like the Reagan
Revolution all moving over toward Trump's sideof the ledger. Immigration is a problem

(01:28:17):
for everyone. Donald Trump wins onthat one across the board, and of
course he brought it up as muchas he could last night. Biden flailed
and failed miserably on that topic.So we all have our popcorn out and
we'll see. But wow, Iwould put yourself in the position of Democrats,
what would you do seven fifty herefifty out their CD talk station If

(01:28:40):
you're having a happy Friday. AlexRantha Filo at the top of the our
news, head of the High RepublicanParty. On the debate last night,
We'll hear from Brett Baker and MikeMorgan about their book Tanked in Cincinnati.
Should be fine. Meantime, we'regoing to go to skid Ashley's call before
we catch ourselves as a crime stopperbad guy of the week. Ashley,
thanks for calling this morning and ahappy Friday to you. Can you hear

(01:29:00):
me? I can loud and clear. Thanks. So, if they're talking
about possibly putting a new candidate infor Biden, what would that mean for
like the vice president? Would kamaWill be their vice president or would they
pick anybody they want? They couldpick anybody they want. Yeah, there
is that there has been no formalnomination. The candidates have yet to be

(01:29:23):
selected, which was what made thatdebate last night unusual because neither side has
formally nominated their person. So itcould literally be anybody, pick a team,
and they could nominate them at theconvention. So Kamala Harris is their
problem? Yeah, right, upto what point can somebody replace him?

(01:29:43):
Well, that depends on state lawin Ohio, there was a problem and
they adjusted the state law to allowfor I guess, either an early nomination
of Biden or a late one,But it depends on this. In the
various states, there are cutoff datesdepending on which state you're in, So
that could pose some challenge lenges forthe Democrats if they don't get off the
dime and nominate someone by the conventiondate. But I think if they do

(01:30:05):
it by the convention date, Ihaven't heard any states say that that will
be outside of the period of timethat the state calls for to have the
candidate in place, because there's alot of paperwork that goes on with that,
and that was pointed out by theSecretary of State of Ohio here on
this program. So it's a logisticalnightmare probably, But I don't think the

(01:30:25):
Fat Lady has sung on their abilityto switch out the candidate. I really
don't appreciate your call. YEP,August coming fast approaching. Let's get officer
Leaks a Baker from the sin SeiPolice Department Crime Stopper Unit. We're going
to catch ourselves a crime stopper.Bad guy of the week, Lisa,
Happy Friday to you, Welcome back, who were looking for today, Happy
Friday. Today we're looking for JuwanJohnson, Ohio DO Parole Authority. They're

(01:30:50):
looking for Juwan Johnson. He's wantingfor a robbery and a parole violation.
Juwan Johnson a black male, thirtytwo years old, six foot two,
two hundred and five pounds, asa history of domestic violence, robbery,
assault weapons charges, you name it. Juwan Johnson frequents the North College Hill
area. Well, let's get himoff the street. I hate guys who

(01:31:13):
are do domestic violence among other things, but obviously a bad guy. We
got to get him off the street. If we know where he might be
or a tip that might lead tohis arrest, what are we gonna do?
Lisa Baker give crime Stoppers a callfive one three three five two thirty
forty, or you can submit atip online crime dash stoppers dot us.
Damn, you'll put his mug shotup on my blog page for five casey
dot com. He's give me athumbs up. It's there already. We'll

(01:31:35):
find him for you and we'll dropa dime and we'll let you keep the
cash reward because we don't need it. We just want to get bad guys
off the street. Lisa, Ihave a wonderful weekend and on behalf of
all my listeners. Thank to you, and thanks to you and everybody at
this Insant Police Department for the hardwork that you do. Truly appreciate your
commitment to the community and to welllimiting or eradicating crime in the area.

(01:31:56):
Again, after the topic, wegot a caller there, Danny, we
got time for one more. No, Okay, Alex tranth Ife left top
of the air and is we'll gethis reaction to the sort of performance by
Biden last night. But again,epic fail really is just just was a
I couldn't believe what I was seeing. I really thought they would have him

(01:32:17):
sharper or more jacked up and goahead and remember exactly what has been brought
up several times this morning. That'sJoe Biden, after a solid week at
Camp David, surrounded by sixteen adviserspreparing him for that moment in time last
night for ninety minutes. He spentan entire week peppered with questions back and

(01:32:43):
forth and you know periods of time. Last night it just sounded like he
was trying to purge himself of allthe factual tidbits that had been hammered into
his head for the prior week.A lot of it came out as gibberish
and didn't make a whole lot ofsense and context. But wow, after
all of that, that's the bestyou scary stuff, Alex trunt Field at
the top of the our news andand in the book we're talking about it

(01:33:05):
sounds like it's going to be agood time. Tanked in Cincinnati. Fortune
and calamity in the beer business MikeMorgan and Brett Coleman about well drinking and
the beers and beer reps and barowners and soul searching that has some great
ideas succeed wildly and others ignited.Dumpster fire in the area of micro brewing.

(01:33:28):
Great way to end a Friday.I'll give just Strekker props for lining
up those guys at eight forty.Stick around. Alex Trantefila will be next
eight o five Here a bit aboutKRC detalk station. A very happy Friday
to you, maybe even happier becausewe're going to get these thoughts and comments,
reactings. Reaction to last night's presidentialdebate from Alex Tiantefilo, head of

(01:33:51):
the Ohio Republican Party. Welcome back, Alex. It's always a real pleasure
to have you on the program.Brian. The pleasure is all mine.
Good morning to you. I knowyou watched it. I stayed up and
watched it myself, even though Istill got up at two thirty this morning.
Well worth it to watch that momentin time Biden just basically fell apart
from the outset. What's your takeon this? And obviously what do you

(01:34:13):
what do you as if you werea Democrat iresponsible for going forward into the
convention, what would you be thinkingright now? Alex? The Democrats should
be in a full blown panic,Brian. And that's just that's not hyperbole
for me. That's just that's afact. There's so much I could say,
and I know we're limited on time, but let me just say a
couple of quick observations. First ofall, this notion Brian, that they

(01:34:34):
can easily replace them at the conventionthat some people may have in their minds
is wrong. I mean, we'reone hundred and one days from early voting
beginning right here in Ohio. Imean they would have back very very quickly.
I mean we'll be printing ballots inno time here in Ohio. You
know, early ballots get mailed inearly August. So this is not a

(01:34:55):
joke. The Democrats created this mess. It's very un fortunate. They just
weren't honest about where they were withJoe Biden. They should have replaced him
sometime in the middle of twenty twentytwo. But they're terrified of Kamala Harris.
So we really, Brian, Imean, look is happy I suppose
is Republicans ought to be and Trumpsupporters ought to be. And I'm both.

(01:35:17):
You know, I'm concerned for thecountry. This man is going to
continue to lead the nation for thenext seven months. And we all saw
finally without the filter of the press, without the pundits defending him, without
the quote fact checkers telling us,you know what our own eyes were seeing.
Is it really like they tried totell us? You know, every
time Biden had a club, youknow that the mainstream press would cover for

(01:35:41):
him and tell you that you know, this was being spun by the Republicans
and his opponents. No, theAmerican people got to see the truth last
night, front and center, andyou know there's concern. I'm concerned about
the country and what this man cando, you know, as president of
the next seven months. So youknow, look, it's time for the
American people to realize that the policiesof Joe Biden are even worse than kind
of his capacity for office. Thepolicies have failed them. You know,

(01:36:04):
we have record inflation, gas costsmore, raising, you know, your
family costs more. You know,the country's just been a much worse place.
We have wars popping up all overthe world, So you know,
you're in a much worse place thanyour work four years ago. Add in
the fact that we just have acommander in chief who's incapable really of leading
and fixing things. So you know, look, I mean it was a

(01:36:26):
good night, I suppose for DonaldTrump, but the country you know,
remains in trouble under Joe Biden's leadership. Well, I'm glad you brought up
foreign policy and wars and the lifebecause I feel very confident the leaders of
those nations who have a disdain forUS, China, North Korea, Russia,
Iran, they were all watching lastnight. They were seeing what the
commander in chief looks like and howhe is unscripted and without teleprompter and any

(01:36:50):
concerns that that might sort of,you know, cause them to react in
a well more warlike manner, likeChina unleashing its forces on Taiwan or Philippines
or you know, there's any numberof scenarios that could play out there,
including the unfolding deterioration of the situationin the Middle East. Yeah, we
live in a very dangerous world,and you know, and war is real,

(01:37:14):
and the threats that you just talkedabout are very very real. I
mean, I just imagine for aminute that the you know, the leader
of China or even Vladimir Putin orsomebody like that, had that kind of
a public appearance. I mean,now this is going to be international news,
and you know, it's something we'veall known. Though again, I
guess my biggest problem with this isthat the Democrats have known this and they

(01:37:35):
sought to cover it up. Youknow, Brian, when Robert Hurr came
out with his investigation this would bethe special prosecutor, yeh, who was
investigating Joe Biden. He came outand said, you know, there are
problems here. This was like FebruaryMarch of this year. Democrats fell in
line They trotted out the Chairman ofthe Joint chiefs of Staff, Brian,
They trotted out the Treasury secretaries.These are some of the most important officials

(01:37:58):
in the Biden administration, some ofthe leaders of our country to all say
that Joe Biden was fine, theyall lied to cover up what we all
saw last night. So we don'thave patriots in our government looking out for
us. We have people looking outfor the political leader and Joe Biden.
So we've been lied to by theDemocrats, and you know, look,
it's bad for the country. Andyou know, again I think that weren't

(01:38:20):
a good position to defeat Joe Biden. But you know, again, we
have seven more months of his presidencyno matter what happened, So you know,
again there's a reason for concern.And again the weakness on the international
stage that you just described is veryreal. So again I pray for our
safety and you know, for thefuture of the country here in the near
term. Well, and you broughtup an interesting point. I agree with

(01:38:40):
you completely. They were aware thatJoe Biden on display last night is like
that all the time. This isthe idea that you know, y'all,
you don't see him behind the scenes, he's sharp as attack, he's the
smartest guy in the room. He'sall over the issues. We've been hearing
that over and over and over again. They knew Joe Biden was struggling,
they know and behind the scenes endof up. Yet they put him out

(01:39:01):
there anyway. I mean, isthere any point in that from a strategic
standpoint, that well, we gotto pull the band aid off kind of
thing. Let's go ahead, rollhim out knowing he's going to fail miserably,
to maybe give us an opportunity tochange the dynamic before the convention.
I mean, you know, thereare some people that think that, you
know, this is all kind oforchestrated with the early debate on purpose so

(01:39:21):
they have a chance to swap himout. But Brian, you know,
again, you could probably do awhole show on what it would take to
swap him out. I mean,it's late. I mean it's not just
late, it's very late. Andalso, mind you, and this is
an important point, I want tomake it briefly, Brian. You know,
the primary process selects the nominees ofthe political parties. Okay, sometimes

(01:39:43):
people don't want to appreciate this,but guess who picks the nominees of the
Republican the Democratic Party. You do. That's why New Hampshire matters, That's
why Iowa matters. If you thinkan inside smoke filled room full of Republicans
would have picked Donald Trump, nochance. Okay, that would have been
Ruby or b Us. The Americanpeople in the Republican primary said enough,
they were tired of the direction ofthe Republican Party and they selected Donald Trump

(01:40:05):
in a Democrats small, de democraticprocess. Well, the Democrats would be
disenfranchising millions of their own voters,Brian, by going to essentially a smoke
filled room in Chicago, a threethousand party of the party's elite insiders,
and picking a nominee for president.You tell me what a political debacle that

(01:40:26):
will be as AOC and Bernie areon one side, and you know,
the Joe Mansion wing of the partybecause they're on the other side, it
would be highly divisive. So theyhave a real pickle. Isn't that what
happened with Uh? You mentioned BernieSanders. That's what they did to him
in the last convention. I mean, he was the favorite among the Democrats
themselves. Yet the smoke filled roomyielded Joe Biden. They had taken Sanders

(01:40:50):
back and tell him it's not asnight. I mean, they had super
delegates in their process, right,yes, right, So it's not without
precedent. Democrats don't seen to bebothered by their own rules and the fact
that these choices are not made amongthe people in the Democrat Party. But
but these these super delegates behind thescenes in the smokefield realm. Yeah,

(01:41:10):
oh, you make a good point. And again, I that being what
it is, Joe Biden still hadto go through that primary process in twenty
you know, in twenty and twentyto be elected their nominee, and he
won some states along the way,and you know it was close. But
here again, you are literally goingto disenfranchise and that is not allow rank
and file Democrats in places like Californiaand New York where they're chock full of

(01:41:31):
Democrats, to actually have a sayin the process. So for three thousand
people to you know, convene inAugust, by the way, just you
know, I mean weeks before anelection and deliver a nominee to the Democratic
Party is just it is. Itis a major crisis for Democrats and they
know it and you know, we'llsee when the ship all shakes out.
But you know it's a it's acrisis for them, so we'll see what

(01:41:55):
happens, all right, Well,going after Biden is like going after low
hanging fruit. It's easy to do. He did a miserable job last night,
and everyone across all sectors of mediaagrees with that. I mean,
when you lose MSNBC's joy read,you know you got a problem on your
hands if you're in the Biden camp. That being said, it seemed to
me that Donald Trump missed quite afew opportunities to provide us with some information

(01:42:15):
about his direction for the country.And I was interested most specifically about his
comments about how he is going tobe able to end the war between Russia
and Ukraine without even before he's evenbeen sworn in. No flesh on the
bones of that statement, and Ithought it was a rather interesting statement and
a rather bold one for him tomake. You have any context for that
or how he might go about doingthat, or was that just Trump being

(01:42:39):
a bit bit blustery. Well,I think this may be a little bit
of mix of both, but Ido believe this. I believe that Donald
Trump is not a conventional politician.I think that's about the understatement of the
day, right, Brian. Butthe fact of the matter is he has
a capacity for deal making that typicallypoliticians do not have. He comes out

(01:42:59):
there with a totally different fresh setof eyes, and he's like, I
mean, look, he went andtalked to Kim Jong Owen. Well,
guess what, I would argue thatthe threat from North Korea is now a
little bit diminished. We're not talkingevery single day about North Korean missiles.
I know they're still there. Butthe man attempted to make peace, and
everybody thought he was crazy. Butguess what, we moved the ball on
that. So could Donald Trump comein And I don't have any inside information

(01:43:24):
about this, I'm speculating like everybodyelse, But could he come in and
pull Zolensky together and pull Putin togetherand say, guys, all you're doing
is killing each other and let's findlet's find a way to make this work.
Does that mean Ukraine gives up someland? Perhaps that's not certainly way
above my pay grade, But Ithink he's a deal maker, it would
be my answer, Brian. AndI think that to the extent that he
could cut a deal between Zolenski andPutin to stop the killing and end that

(01:43:47):
war in a way that you know, both sides walk away slightly unhappy.
You know, you and I arelawyers. We've negotiated plenty of settlements.
Right now, everybody walks away andhe's given up something. So from where
I sit, you know, there'sa settlement opportunity here that ends the killing.
Because this war doesn't seem to becoming to an end anytime soon.
It doesn't seem that there's a clear, you know, winner in sight.

(01:44:10):
So you know, that's what Ithink. I think he's thinking. The
guy who wrote part of the deal, you know, over thirty five years
ago, I think wants to usethat that skill set to bring a solution
to that, to that war.And that's where I think you're hearing from
Donald Trump. Fair enough, atleast in terms of the politics. I
think Donald Trump navigated the question ofabortion pretty well, but much to the
chagrin I'm certain of the evangelical Christiansout there in the world who don't believe

(01:44:32):
there should be exceptions for abortion.He pointed out. He believes in the
health of the woman, rape andinsects exceptions he also believes that the morning
after pill should be available. Thatruns contrary to a lot of the very
conservative wing of the Republican Party.Do you think he's going to suffer at
all because of that? Well,I hope not. And you know,

(01:44:54):
this is one of those areas whereI'm strongly pro life. So this is
an area that you know, touchesall bit of a nerd with me.
We should be the party of life. We should stand for life. We
should do so unapologetically, but politically, we have to make the case better
to the American people. I thoughtDonald Trump's argument abortion last night was really
strong. I mean, he lookedat Joe Biden said, do you believe

(01:45:15):
an abortion in the eighth month?Democrats never are forced to answer that question,
Brian, They're never The media iscomplicit and never having making them answer
that question. All they do isthey pivot and they talk about their talking
points. But if you believe thatterminating a pregancy in the eighth month is
okay, you're among a very smallminority of the American people. So we
as Republicans ought to be talking about, you know, shrinking that window down

(01:45:38):
and protecting as many lives as possible, and I thought Donald Trump's answer was
a good one. You know,I may personally differ on the question of
For me, I'm a you know, I'm a I'm a strong pro life
Republican, So you know, it'sone of those things though, But we
have to recognize overall that we haveto defeat Jo'biden and win back to presidency.
So we continue to put in greatjudges and do other things that can

(01:46:00):
mentally continue this fight to protect life. Well, since you mentioned judges,
let us move away from last nightand close on important races here in the
state of Ohio. And I knowyou're big on promoting GOP judges dot com.
We really, really, really needto take back law enforcement and prosecuting
criminals to the fullest extent of thelaw. And I know that's a subject
near and dear to your heart.Alex. Well, it is, you

(01:46:24):
know, And I left being acounty chairman a year and a half ago,
but I've not forgotten the importance ofa race like the county prosecutor's race.
And I know you talk about it. Our friend Melissa Powers is going
to be on the ballot. Iknow, I know you're vocal about this
we have to folks, if you'relistening, you have to tell ten of
your friends Melissa Powers, Melissa Powers, Melissa Powers. We have no other

(01:46:44):
choice. If you want to gothe way of Chicago and San Francisco,
where you know people are being fiftyand sixty and seventy people are being shot
every weekend, then you know,you can elect this other person who's running
who's got no experience, just barelygot our law license back, or you
can Melissa Powers, who has judicialexperience, prosecutorial experience. So that's that
was not even political. That's justreally about the safety of our community in

(01:47:08):
Handling County. So yeah, Icare a lot about that, care a
lot about our judges. We havethree Supreme Court races here in Ohio.
We're still strongly about those as well, and we have prosecutors running there as
well, so you know, wefeel good about that. But it is
something I'm passionate about. Brian again, having a law license, having been
a judge. I feel very stronglyabout these things. I know you do,
and I appreciate your thoughts and commentsand all these topics. Alix Charantafeel,

(01:47:28):
you always have a welcome spot hereon the fifty five krc Morning Show.
Keep up the great work and Ilook forward to further conversations down the
road. Have a great weekend,Brian, take good care. You do
the same, my friend. It'seight nineteen right now. If you five
KRCD Talk Station five one three,seven four nine fifty five hundred eight hundred
eight two three talk. I'm goingto close out in a fun note Brett
Baker and Mike Morgan with the booktanked in Cincinnati. It's about the trials

(01:47:49):
and tribulations. I believe in microbreweries and should be fun. And that's
at eight forty Hey thirty here,fifty five KRCD Talk Station. I'm very
happy Friday, toll. You reallyenjoying our conversations this morning. Lots of
callers, lots of observations, thoughts, impressions, and tea leave. Reading
on last night's unbelievable presidential debate withBiden, well basically his version of the

(01:48:10):
Hindenburg explosion. Low hanging fruit.Picking on Biden this morning, but let's
take calls and find out what Steven'swill start with Stephen ridd hang on,
Steven, thanks for calling this morning. Happy Friday to you, Hey,
Brian, enjoying your show. Ijust wanted to say a couple quick coins.
First. You know, we alwayshear about from Democrats about the rich

(01:48:31):
paying their fair share. Well,Biden and his policies with NATO did just
that. And Biden, I thinkshould have communicated just like this that you
guys always talk about fair share.That's all I did with NATO and European
countries. They need to pay theirfair share. You know, he needs
to throw back at Democrats the samelanguage and arguments to their own policies because

(01:48:57):
their policies are incoherent and that andone thing he needs to work on a
on a different note is his hishis his relations his approach when it comes
to women, suburban women. Uh, he needs to do better and his
responses there he and he can talkabout in his administration, the standard of

(01:49:18):
living, the wages of women,the just economically, women fared much better,
I'm sure, and the data canprove that than under the Biden administration.
The trans issues that are taking uh, just opportunities away from women.
He's got to rescue himself from uhyou know the argument when it comes to

(01:49:42):
suburban women, Yes, because they'regoing to continue to come after him on
that. Yeah, I think you'reprobably right. He doesn't earn any points
with suburban women with his antics andhis you know, his affairs and the
like. We all understand that.But you're right, suburban women still traditionally
are doing the grocery shopping in spiteof that sounding like the stereotypes to It's
true, and you can't get awayfrom the Kroger bill man. Everybody's feeling

(01:50:03):
it, everybody sees it. Everybody'sfinances or you know, in homes are
largely run a lot by the womenin the households, and I don't understand
why they wouldn't gravitate toward Trump juston economics alone. Yes, but yeah,
he'll have some time to hammer thathammer that across. I think he
missed some valuable opportunities to do thatlast night. But we've got some time
between now and November. So keepyour fingers crossed even and I certainly appreciate

(01:50:27):
your calling your observations. Let's seewhat RITZ got this morning. Rid,
Welcome to the program. Happy Fridayto you, Thank you you too,
Brian, Good morning. I uh, I want to tell you I actually
audibly chuckled on that Hindenburg comment,that was classic, Thank you, I
like that. But anyway, andthis is just throw it out their Republican
idea. What if after that attemptat having a debate yesterday, the Republicans

(01:50:53):
tell Biden you are absolutely unfit.It was proven in both the twenty fifth.
Now Kamala is president, and thiscan't be done in time for the
convention. If it would, thatwould change things dramatically, But it can't
be. But if they swapped bynow, now you've got the first African
American female as president and you're runningan essential competitor against her as the Democratic

(01:51:19):
nominee. It you know, that'sa layer of complication that honestly, I
don't even think that the Republicans willwant to go down that road. You
know, they they've got Biden.He's the foregone conclusion for the Democrats.
They've hung their hat around here,you know, basically, they've they've weed
themselves to Biden. At this point, Alex talked about the complications of them

(01:51:40):
finding somebody else that's somebody else ifthey could is not going to Becomala Harris
So, and would the Republicans actuallydo it to our country to go down
the twenty fifth Amendment road, whichis going to take a long time.
They'll be opposition to it. Andin order to allow Kamala Harris to become
the andre in chief, do theynot care about our country to bring about

(01:52:02):
that reality which would be frightening ashell? I mean, wow, yeah,
that's absolutely true, so true.I guess I'm looking at more at
it as a spectator, uh,looking at the shape. They've already got
everything, and I might would justbe amused to see how that played out
really more than the practical results ofit. I guess. Yeah. It's

(01:52:25):
all things like this are always worthtalking about and bringing up because right now
we are in a theoretical realm here, anything seems the possible. Good to
hear from you, Rich, Thanksfor calling this morning. Enjoy the conversation,
and I hope people can stick around. Tanked in Cincinnati, Fortune and
Calamity in the beer business. Mynext guest coming up, Michael Morgan and
Bread Baker, authors of the book. Looking forward to that closing out and

(01:52:47):
I think a smile this morning eightthirty five fifty five cares to the talk
station Happy one too. You knowme love my fridays here in the morning,
show. I always like to endon a positive and happy note and
not a whole lot much more positiveand happy in my way world and really
good craft beer and joining in thefifty five kerc Morning Show this morning.
Authors of Tanked and Cincinnati, Fortuneand Calamity and the Beer Business Mike Morgan

(01:53:08):
and Brett Coleman Baker. Brett isone of the co owners of Urban Artifact,
America's largest fruit breweries, also theUnited States Brewery Ambassador for Las Virgo's
boy Ron. Michael D. Morganteaches beer courses and oversees the Brewing Institute
or Industry Certificate program at the Universityof Cincinnati by Alma Mater. Author of

(01:53:30):
Over the Line, When Beer WasKing and Cincinnati Beer Together. Baker Morgan
co hosts Something You Should Look Forbrew Sky's Happy Hour podcast, which is
an extensive ongoing history of American craftbeer. They also host Bruce Sky's Booze
News, which is a YouTube showwhere they provide a weekly recap of news
from the alcoholic beverage industry. Welcometo the Morning Show, guys, It's

(01:53:51):
a real pleasure to have you onto talk about your book Tank in Cincinnati.
Good morning, Thanks for having us. What a fun job. I'm
jealous and envious. We'd drink onthe job a lot more than you do.
I bet you do. All right, let me ask you this,
because you've probably heard it before.Everybody you know gets, Oh, I'd
love to own a restaurant. Ilove I love to cook. Wouldn't it

(01:54:13):
be great to own a restaurant?And then the practical reality of owning a
restaurant is, Oh my god,it's a train wreck. How much do
I buy? How much spoilages aregoing to be? How do I accommodate
this and the employees and stealing andnext thing? You know that the idea
of owning a restaurant bad idea.I think. You know, we're owning
a micro brewery and experimenting and creatingwonderful beers. It sounds like an awesome,

(01:54:35):
awesome job. But it's got tobe a hell of a lot more
complex than the outside observer like memight might expect. Yeah, it's not
as romantic as you would think.You know, you can't have a party
every day because at that point intime, you just turn into an alcoholic
and you'll die at the age offorty two. So it's it is more
manufacturing than it is just hanging out, but it is extremely rewarding. It

(01:54:59):
is a lot of fun coming upwith new recipes, and you know,
it's a heck stressful than a restaurant, and that's for sure. Well,
and I guess the other component ofthat, you know, And I'm always
late to observe that, you know, because I'm not an independent business guy.
I've always been a W two employee. I just don't have it in
me to be creative and do astartup. But as I stare out over
the landscape, and I absolutely loveand adore the beer renaissance that's going on,

(01:55:23):
particularly in the greater Cincinnati area.What there are like sixty micro brewers,
like with close to the two seventyfive Beltway or thereabouts. I mean,
there's it seems like there's one croppingup every day, which means you
have competition, but it also illustratesthat there's clearly a demand out there for
these micro breweries. Yeah, Imean, first of all, just on

(01:55:44):
the numbers. You know, therewas a period of time where I felt
that I was expected to go toall of them, and I you know,
now, like somebody will ask meabout a brewery and I've never even
heard of it. Yeah, andso I don't know. So, you
know, the marketplace, it's gonnabe weird to see how it actually plays

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out, you know, whether wecan support all of these or not.
But it gives us fantastic options asdrinkers, it sure does. I'm a
big fan of I Pas. Andyou always had these conversations. You tell
somebody you love I Pas and thereactions, oh me too, or oh
god, I can't stand him.But you know, every every day I

(01:56:25):
wake up there's another five or sixdifferent I Pas to sample and try.
I've lost track of how many I'vetried over the years. And I just
again view that as a wonderful thing. In terms of Jim Cook of Boston
Beer, he has this, youknow, Sam Adams Brewery right, a
major US brewer. He was instrumentalin helping some of these small breweries get
off the ground, so he actuallyhelped financially support competition. He has a

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crazy experience, you know. Heyou know the old saying pioneers get the
arrow, settlers get the land.Well, somehow he was able to do
both. You know, in thenineteen nineties he was getting all the arrows
from Anheuser Busch and Budweiser trying totake down craft beer and discredit the movement.
He survived that by taking the bruntof it. And then in the

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early aughts, when the hop marketwas imploding on itself and craft brewers couldn't
get hops, he opened up hishop vault and supplied any brewer in the
country that needed hops. You justreached out to him and he gave you
hops. He has been the singlegreatest modern steward to craft beer while maintaining
his independence, while also having apublic company's it's what he's been able to

(01:57:38):
do is is truly amazing. Well. One of the things he demonstrated,
and I'm at fifty eight years old, I'm old enough to remember when you
didn't have options. The most youknow, the most exotic beer or unique
beer he could get was like Heinekenor something. Oh my god, he
bought all of bats. It's like, oh, it's and it's terrible.
He brought out a great beer,that's Sam Adams Lagger was announced, standing

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superior product to any of the nationalbrands you could find. It was an
inspiration for small breweries to get started. It really was, and it had
history because he found that recipe thatwas his grandparents' recipe in his attic,
and he was inspired to, youknow, start this brewery. And I
mean, he's got Ivy League educationin business. He could have done anything,

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so getting into into craft beer,supporting the legacy, inspiring all the
people like you did, is Imean. And that beer is an award
winning It has won Best Beer inthe Country multiple times at the Great American
Beer Festival, no question about it. Well, Brett, you are with
co one of the coners of UrbanArtifact again described as the largest fruit brewery.

(01:58:41):
Fruit brewery. You rely on fruitsto help make your Brewis that actually
very very successful endeavor? They don'talways work out really successfully these ideas.
I tell me about some of thedumpster fires that you reference in the book
Tank in Cincinnati. Well as faras like actual beers go, a couple

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stand out. Our worst rated beerwe've ever made is a beer that I
made. It was supposed to belike a sasparilla soda, and it was.
It was an abomination, extremely poorly. We got more complaints about that
than any other beer. Thankfully,we only made a couple kegs of it.
The other one that was the mostdivisive was Durian, which, if
you're not familiar with Durian, itis the world's stinkiest fruit. It's banned

(01:59:26):
on subways in Southeast Asia. Mosthotels won't allow you to bring it in.
It is just it smells like diesel, burning diapers and garlic. But
it kind of tastes like banana custard, so it's not a great fruit.
And when we make it every yearfor Halloween because I like to do weird
stuff and mess with people, thebartenders have a horrible time with it,

(01:59:48):
but customers seem to enjoy it.It's a good fun joke. So yeah,
that Durian or Sasparilla were probably mytwo most disappointing. If you hold
your nose to drink the dury init's actually a a good beer, but
my god, it smells disgusting.I feel like the Limburger cheese of beer
or something. Yes, oh lord, Well, the freedom and flexibility you

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get, I mean you just illustrated. I mean two things, like,
who in the hell ever would havethought of making a beer out of the
Durian fruit? But here you are. You do it. You've done it.
And you've got the freedom to doit. The other thing I love
about these micro brus they can issueand they regularly issue special event bruise.
It's like you have your own tailoredbrew for a special event. How can
they do that? A national brandcould never do that, And yet there

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you go, you walk down theaisle of the store, there's a special
event brew right waiting for you.I mean, the city basically has a
festival about that. I mean,that's what Bockfest is back. Wasn't even
existent when Mike helped get it going. Yeah, and we now do a
festival every year called Missing Length.It's first weekend of June, so it

(02:00:56):
just passed. But that whole festival. We found this yeast strain in a
pre prohibition loggering seller, so weactually gave the yeast back to the city
of Cincinnati. It is a cityholiday and we invite fifteen twenty different breweries
to come in and all make whateverthey want to make with this funky pre

(02:01:18):
prohibition yeast we found. That's wild, So you know, it's it's a
blast. So who you wrote thebook Tankton Cincinnati, Fortune and Calamity in
the beer business. Who's your targetmarket for this folks like me, you
just really enjoy beer. Is ita history everything in all the above?
Yeah, I mean it's for inpart beer geeks, but beyond that,

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the thing that we really like aboutdoing this book is that it is very
personal stories of the people that helpmold the industry here locally. And so
it's stories, as the title implies, of both great success and that went
terribly wrong. So you know,it's everybody from Jim Cook, who was

(02:02:05):
just so incredibly nice to interview,but Jim Cook and Bryant from Ryan Geist,
you know, are definitely examples ofgreat success. Oh yeah, and
I don't know if you remember Oldenbergfrom back in the late eighties. Yes,
but you know, those guys wereon the cusp of completely changing the

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industry when they collapsed, you know, the wheels totally fell off. So
we have the stories on both endsof things, the people that were wildly
successful and the ones that should havebeen but something went wrong. So it's
very personal stories and they're kind ofbroader lessons of both business and life.

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So you don't really have to bea beer geek to like the book.
Michael Morgan and Brett Coleman Baker,authors of Tanked and Cincinnati Fortune and clamenting
in the beer business. Guys,it's on my web page of fifty five
KRST links. The folks can getthe book. It's I'm staring at it
on Amazon's page. Danie'll hook thatup so everybody can get a copy.
I appreciate the time you smell mylisteners to me today and ended a Friday

(02:03:08):
on a real positive note. I'mlooking forward to diving on into the book,
and you guys have a wonderful weekendand keep up the great work and
making these fantastic beers we all love. Thanks you too, come on down,
we'll buy you a beer. I'lltake you up on that, my
friend. Thank you for the invite. Have a wonderful weekend. Eight fifty
folks, fifty five Karrosee eight fiftyfive. It's five Kerosee detalk station.

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Thanks Dandy Leason for covering for theVacationingstrekker Danny, youre going to be
in on Monday as well, right, Sean McMahon is covering on Monday.
Well, I appreciate you doing agood job today and you did, and
thanks to everybody who called in today. Of course we did the post mortem
of last night's disastrous debate Joe Biden. Obviously epic fail Hindenberg is the way
I refer to it, but greatthoughts and comments and great exchange of ideas

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