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(00:00):
Hey to you. I wonder ifher ears were burning when Christopher Smitheman was
(00:04):
louding her and singing her praises.Welcome back to the fifty five Carsite Morning
Show, Hamilton County Prosecutor, MelissaPowers. It's always a pleasure speaking with
you on the fifty five Carseee MorningShow. Good morning, Brian, thanks
for having me, and Christopher wassinging your praises. He joins the show
every Monday at seven point thirty todo the Smither vent and every once,
I mean every last shoot, likesix months. Every time he's on,
(00:25):
he brings up your name and talksabout how important it is you get reelected
as Hamilton County Prosecutor because we needto be tough on crime. You are,
and let us start on a positivenote before we get to more bond
shenanigans which you regularly post. AndI will I strong encourage my listeners to
like you at or follow you MelissaPowers, Hamilton County Prosecutor on Facebook.
(00:46):
Let's sing the praises of those whogot in touch with the parole board because
Wayne Reed and Russell Bell were deniedparole. Yeah, thanks for your listeners.
Those that responded to our call forhelp and the call for act to
keep these cop killers behind bars andthat they remain behind bars for the rest
of their lives. So, yes, the update was their parole was denied.
(01:11):
I think in large part they listenedto our community. We had a
wide response in addition to my officeobviously objecting to their release. Their next
hearing won't be until March of twentytwenty nine, so we have some repriese
I think in some relief that atleast until March of twenty twenty nine they're
(01:32):
parole, they'll be behind bars andwe'll just continue to fight the next time
that they come up for parole.Well, you anytime issues like this crop
up, you know you have avenue here in the morning show to get
people to start ringing the phone ofthe Ohio Parole Board for cop killers.
Most notably, but sadly enough,on the bad news side of the Ledger,
you're still reporting as you regularly dobond updates. We've got some very
(01:53):
liberal judges out there who are lettingfolks out with own recognizance bonds. In
other words, you don't have topost any money. That's basically a no
bail situation. But under some prettyhorrific circumstances here, no doubt, Brian.
I mean, we're constantly fighting againstthese low bonds and our bonds,
particularly on offenses of violence. Wehave violence that's risen in some neighborhoods and
(02:17):
in the past seven several weeks,our cities has experienced two mass shootings.
An incident involving use of force bypolice officers for a man with a firearm
and a Kroger grocery store out Coleraine. The music hall incident the Bramble Park
where fifteen people were shot. Wealso had Withrow High School graduation. If
(02:42):
you recall a car it was adrive by a car pulled up fired into
a crowd. Seven people at ahigh school graduation returned fire. Forty rounds
were shot. Luckily in that incident, nobody was harmed. But we need
our judges to really take the responsedisability of helping curbing the violence in our
(03:02):
neighborhoods and in our cities. Wehave an epidemic. It seems like every
time you turn on the news,you're seeing somebody was shot or there was
you know, shots fired, orpolice use a force and we're just you
know, we're right in the middleof summer. This is going to continue
during these warm months. We knowcrime spikes, but we need everybody to
(03:23):
take it seriously. When an individualis arrested for illegally possession of possessing a
firearm, particularly a convicted felon whohas a weapons under disability charge, those
people should remain behind bars and wetake the gun off the street. And
somebody that has access to firearms whois willing to use a firem because they're
carrying illegally. Maybe they're drug dealers, maybe they're threatening people, whatever it
(03:47):
may be, they should remain behindbars. It should not be a catch
and release. And so I justreally strongly speak out. I want our
citizens to understand what's how important andwhen you elect a judge, that we're
electing judges that will not neglect theirresponsibility, will take public safety uh and
law and order uh, and thatthey're part of the solution. I hear
(04:11):
all these uh there was you know, different TV stations and different groups are
putting together how do we stop juvenileviolence? Well, no one's talking about
keeping them locked up if they're arrested, And to me, that's part of
the solution. You can put all, I agree with all the programs,
or you want more recreational area centersor whatever it may be in particular neighborhoods
(04:35):
so that you know, children canhave a nice, nice you know,
hopefully a nice place to go orto keep them occupied. But the judges,
one of the responsibilities is public safety, and they just they they're neglecting
their responsibility and in my opinion,underminding the people's confidence in the judicial system
(04:58):
when they're just releasing you know,violent people, repeat offenders, people with
guns. Well, and you're talkingabout recidivus here, you know, demonstrably
unwilling to follow the law. Andmost notably the guy with the weapons under
disability, he had already been chargedwith that and he goes out and he's
got owned recognis bond. He's he'sin court for having a gun. I
(05:18):
mean, you know, obviously awillingness to disregard the law. This is
the type of person that should facethe consequences. And uh, let me
just cut to the chase on this. You have been identifying and I can't
thank you enough for doing this.On your page again, Melissa Powers,
Hamilton County Prosecutor, Facebook, youpost these bond hearings and the results of
(05:39):
them. You point the name ofthe judge, and you've identified a couple
of different judges over the past severalmonths that seemed to be the outliers of
the problems with the low or nobond situations. Have you ever, I
mean, I don't know if it'sappropriate, if this is something that prosecutors
do. You ever talked to themabout the reality of this, get their
philosophy or why they think it's appropriateto let a guy who's out out.
(06:00):
I let a guy out on OR when he's when he's been busted again
for having a weapon. Our prosecutorsargue very strongly for public safety on all
of these cases. That's our wayof communicating to the giants whether they have
a violent criminal history, whether thefacts warranted, because the offense is so
serious that either a single victim isin danger or the public at large is
(06:25):
at danger. But also knowing thatthere is a gun problem, that we
have a lot of shootings or peoplepeople getting hurt by it with violence,
to give an our bond is nothelping the problem. So I can't have
a individual conversation. It's usually ithas to be on a case by case
bases where our prosecutors are arguing itin court. So all of these all
(06:48):
this information is pointed out to themin the courtroom, and that's how that's
how we handle it. Well,I suppose then it's incumbent upon my listeners
like you are doing to bring pressureto bear on them merely by pointing out
factually what's gone on in the courtroom. You know, I know who.
I'm not planning on voting for HamiltonCounty Prosecutor Melissa Powers for no other reason
(07:11):
than the posts that you put upand the idea that we know exactly who
these you know, I guess socialjustice reformer judges are. Any comments as
we move forward some of the importantjudicial races there were going into this November,
Well, there are seven judicial racesin Hamilton County, all of which
I think there's a distinct difference betweenthose that are law and order and those
(07:35):
that are swing to the radical GeorgeSoro's mentality that the criminals or the accused
rights are more important than a victimor the public safety. They also believe,
you know, in general, I'mspeaking in general terms. The opponents
against public safety. I don't knowif they have an appreciation that have important
(08:01):
you know, deterrence lock and keepingpeople locked up is a deterrence. You
know, the leniency reduces the terrence. And then if somebody believes they don't
face any kind of consequences, they'renot discouraged from committing crime. And then
the impact it has on witnesses andvictims, so they are less likely to
cooperate and come to court or comeforward. Three hundred people were at that
(08:24):
Ramble park and I'm not sure anybodyhas cooperated to help, you know,
bring fifteen people were shot and wedon't have any nobody saw anything. I
just thought, right if we hadjudges that balance the rights of the accused
of public safety and that would protecta victim of crime and keep the person
(08:48):
locked up, particularly domestic violence crimes, you know, we have trouble or
a rape victim, sexual offenses.You know, you can just go down
the list of serious offenses where aperson doesn't feel protected, they're not going
to come forward, and then wedon't and then these individuals that are getting
(09:09):
these the accused or the offenders thatare getting the low bonds, they're going
right back into the same community wherethe crime may have occurred, So it
makes everybody feel less safe and nobodyhas any belief in the judicial system.
Well, those domestic relations, ifan of those guys are the most likely
to be recidivous, aren't they beatenup on the X or the wife or
(09:31):
the ex wife is the case maybe. I mean, that just doesn't
stop. No, As you know, Brian, I mean, it takes
a long time for somebody for avictim of domestic violence to even call the
police ectly, and then once theydo, it's very hard for them to
continue to get in court. There'sa whole psychology involved with the abuser and
(09:52):
the emotional abuses it goes along withit, and then the manipulation, so
you know, they you know,whether I'm sorry, you know you made
me do this, and and sotherefore you know, but I love you,
and then they make up or whatever. So there's a whole cycle that
goes on involved in domestic violence.And then, as you know, it
continues to escalate, and so itis more than just once. Most often
(10:18):
we see it as a pattern ofconduct. And then you have a victim
that's trapped in that situation and thehighest risk if they attempt to lead the
relationship of really serious physical harmor andbeing killed by their abusers. So you're
right, I mean, recidivism isa direct threat to public safety. Every
time you let this catch and release, it's an increased likelihood of repeat offenses.
(10:43):
And that the deterrence is just theleniency just reduces a deterrence. So
we need judges you asked about thequestion was about judges. We need judges
that understand this, that have experience, that have been through that that can
recognize who is the threat to safetyand who is the one that you can
(11:03):
release. I'm not saying keep everybodylocked up at the very you know,
and then but there's opportunities for us, you know, for for other judges.
Once a person is charged with thecrime, they go through a process
and then get indicted if it's afelony, or they get into the courtroom
if it's a misdemeanor. You haveanother judge with some time and space involved
(11:26):
before you can really you know,really in a domestic violence situation, you
want to remove that person because youneed the situation to calm down for the
safety of the individual. So youknow, you want to set a higher
bond something to make sure that they'reprotected by the time they get into the
courtroom. Let's let another judge takea review and assess the situation. They
(11:46):
have more information than just when whatthe arrest, because sometimes these investigations continue
and so we get we can geteven deeper into the facts of to what's
going on. But it's important tojudges that you elect because it is a
direct it's a direct impact on ourlives and our public safety in our neighborhoods
well. And it's certainly something weneed to keep in mind when we're voting
(12:07):
for prosecutor, because without a prosecutorthat's tough on crime, then it's never
going to be in front of ajudge to start with. So vote for
Melissa Powers for Hamilin County Prosecute.You can help her out. Go to
Powers for Prosecutor dot com. Isee you donate button, and I know
there's my listeners out there that wouldlove to help you out with your campaign.
That's one very simple way to doit. But you can also help
(12:28):
work on our campaign. Get ayard sign, but help support Melissa Powers.
And I imagine Melissa, you haveprobably heard there's going to be some
big, fat out of state moneycoming in to interfere with this campaign this
fall. That's right, You're absolutelyright. I mean, we have that
issue that has been done in othercities, and we know how it's destroyed
(12:48):
wonderful cities. I grew up here, I love our city. I want
to make sure that we can maintainour city can be a great place to
live and raise a family. Soeverybody should understand and public safety is on
the ballot this November. It doesn'tmatter what your politics are. We understand
that we have to fight against thesesaled policies that have ruined other big cities
(13:09):
throughout our country. We have visualdemonstration of that reality. Just read any
newspaper on any given day. AsI stare at the article about eighty seven
people being shot in Chicago over thefourth of July weekend, how long can
you prosecute Melissa Powers? Keep upthe great work. Best look on the
campaign powersfroprosecutor dot com to help herout. I'll look forward to having you
(13:31):
back on the program, and thanksagain for the hard work you do each
and every day. Thanks Brian
Hey to you. I wonder ifher ears were burning when Christopher Smitheman was
(00:04):
louding her and singing her praises.Welcome back to the fifty five Carsite Morning
Show, Hamilton County Prosecutor, MelissaPowers. It's always a pleasure speaking with
you on the fifty five Carseee MorningShow. Good morning, Brian, thanks
for having me, and Christopher wassinging your praises. He joins the show
every Monday at seven point thirty todo the Smither vent and every once,
I mean every last shoot, likesix months. Every time he's on,
(00:25):
he brings up your name and talksabout how important it is you get reelected
as Hamilton County Prosecutor because we needto be tough on crime. You are,
and let us start on a positivenote before we get to more bond
shenanigans which you regularly post. AndI will I strong encourage my listeners to
like you at or follow you MelissaPowers, Hamilton County Prosecutor on Facebook.
(00:46):
Let's sing the praises of those whogot in touch with the parole board because
Wayne Reed and Russell Bell were deniedparole. Yeah, thanks for your listeners.
Those that responded to our call forhelp and the call for act to
keep these cop killers behind bars andthat they remain behind bars for the rest
of their lives. So, yes, the update was their parole was denied.
(01:11):
I think in large part they listenedto our community. We had a
wide response in addition to my officeobviously objecting to their release. Their next
hearing won't be until March of twentytwenty nine, so we have some repriese
I think in some relief that atleast until March of twenty twenty nine they're
(01:32):
parole, they'll be behind bars andwe'll just continue to fight the next time
that they come up for parole.Well, you anytime issues like this crop
up, you know you have avenue here in the morning show to get
people to start ringing the phone ofthe Ohio Parole Board for cop killers.
Most notably, but sadly enough,on the bad news side of the Ledger,
you're still reporting as you regularly dobond updates. We've got some very
(01:53):
liberal judges out there who are lettingfolks out with own recognizance bonds. In
other words, you don't have topost any money. That's basically a no
bail situation. But under some prettyhorrific circumstances here, no doubt, Brian.
I mean, we're constantly fighting againstthese low bonds and our bonds,
particularly on offenses of violence. Wehave violence that's risen in some neighborhoods and
(02:17):
in the past seven several weeks,our cities has experienced two mass shootings.
An incident involving use of force bypolice officers for a man with a firearm
and a Kroger grocery store out Coleraine. The music hall incident the Bramble Park
where fifteen people were shot. Wealso had Withrow High School graduation. If
(02:42):
you recall a car it was adrive by a car pulled up fired into
a crowd. Seven people at ahigh school graduation returned fire. Forty rounds
were shot. Luckily in that incident, nobody was harmed. But we need
our judges to really take the responsedisability of helping curbing the violence in our
(03:02):
neighborhoods and in our cities. Wehave an epidemic. It seems like every
time you turn on the news,you're seeing somebody was shot or there was
you know, shots fired, orpolice use a force and we're just you
know, we're right in the middleof summer. This is going to continue
during these warm months. We knowcrime spikes, but we need everybody to
(03:23):
take it seriously. When an individualis arrested for illegally possession of possessing a
firearm, particularly a convicted felon whohas a weapons under disability charge, those
people should remain behind bars and wetake the gun off the street. And
somebody that has access to firearms whois willing to use a firem because they're
carrying illegally. Maybe they're drug dealers, maybe they're threatening people, whatever it
(03:47):
may be, they should remain behindbars. It should not be a catch
and release. And so I justreally strongly speak out. I want our
citizens to understand what's how important andwhen you elect a judge, that we're
electing judges that will not neglect theirresponsibility, will take public safety uh and
law and order uh, and thatthey're part of the solution. I hear
(04:11):
all these uh there was you know, different TV stations and different groups are
putting together how do we stop juvenileviolence? Well, no one's talking about
keeping them locked up if they're arrested, And to me, that's part of
the solution. You can put all, I agree with all the programs,
or you want more recreational area centersor whatever it may be in particular neighborhoods
(04:35):
so that you know, children canhave a nice, nice you know,
hopefully a nice place to go orto keep them occupied. But the judges,
one of the responsibilities is public safety, and they just they they're neglecting
their responsibility and in my opinion,underminding the people's confidence in the judicial system
(04:58):
when they're just releasing you know,violent people, repeat offenders, people with
guns. Well, and you're talkingabout recidivus here, you know, demonstrably
unwilling to follow the law. Andmost notably the guy with the weapons under
disability, he had already been chargedwith that and he goes out and he's
got owned recognis bond. He's he'sin court for having a gun. I
(05:18):
mean, you know, obviously awillingness to disregard the law. This is
the type of person that should facethe consequences. And uh, let me
just cut to the chase on this. You have been identifying and I can't
thank you enough for doing this.On your page again, Melissa Powers,
Hamilton County Prosecutor, Facebook, youpost these bond hearings and the results of
(05:39):
them. You point the name ofthe judge, and you've identified a couple
of different judges over the past severalmonths that seemed to be the outliers of
the problems with the low or nobond situations. Have you ever, I
mean, I don't know if it'sappropriate, if this is something that prosecutors
do. You ever talked to themabout the reality of this, get their
philosophy or why they think it's appropriateto let a guy who's out out.
(06:00):
I let a guy out on OR when he's when he's been busted again
for having a weapon. Our prosecutorsargue very strongly for public safety on all
of these cases. That's our wayof communicating to the giants whether they have
a violent criminal history, whether thefacts warranted, because the offense is so
serious that either a single victim isin danger or the public at large is
(06:25):
at danger. But also knowing thatthere is a gun problem, that we
have a lot of shootings or peoplepeople getting hurt by it with violence,
to give an our bond is nothelping the problem. So I can't have
a individual conversation. It's usually ithas to be on a case by case
bases where our prosecutors are arguing itin court. So all of these all
(06:48):
this information is pointed out to themin the courtroom, and that's how that's
how we handle it. Well,I suppose then it's incumbent upon my listeners
like you are doing to bring pressureto bear on them merely by pointing out
factually what's gone on in the courtroom. You know, I know who.
I'm not planning on voting for HamiltonCounty Prosecutor Melissa Powers for no other reason
(07:11):
than the posts that you put upand the idea that we know exactly who
these you know, I guess socialjustice reformer judges are. Any comments as
we move forward some of the importantjudicial races there were going into this November,
Well, there are seven judicial racesin Hamilton County, all of which
I think there's a distinct difference betweenthose that are law and order and those
(07:35):
that are swing to the radical GeorgeSoro's mentality that the criminals or the accused
rights are more important than a victimor the public safety. They also believe,
you know, in general, I'mspeaking in general terms. The opponents
against public safety. I don't knowif they have an appreciation that have important
(08:01):
you know, deterrence lock and keepingpeople locked up is a deterrence. You
know, the leniency reduces the terrence. And then if somebody believes they don't
face any kind of consequences, they'renot discouraged from committing crime. And then
the impact it has on witnesses andvictims, so they are less likely to
cooperate and come to court or comeforward. Three hundred people were at that
(08:24):
Ramble park and I'm not sure anybodyhas cooperated to help, you know,
bring fifteen people were shot and wedon't have any nobody saw anything. I
just thought, right if we hadjudges that balance the rights of the accused
of public safety and that would protecta victim of crime and keep the person
(08:48):
locked up, particularly domestic violence crimes, you know, we have trouble or
a rape victim, sexual offenses.You know, you can just go down
the list of serious offenses where aperson doesn't feel protected, they're not going
to come forward, and then wedon't and then these individuals that are getting
(09:09):
these the accused or the offenders thatare getting the low bonds, they're going
right back into the same community wherethe crime may have occurred, So it
makes everybody feel less safe and nobodyhas any belief in the judicial system.
Well, those domestic relations, ifan of those guys are the most likely
to be recidivous, aren't they beatenup on the X or the wife or
(09:31):
the ex wife is the case maybe. I mean, that just doesn't
stop. No, As you know, Brian, I mean, it takes
a long time for somebody for avictim of domestic violence to even call the
police ectly, and then once theydo, it's very hard for them to
continue to get in court. There'sa whole psychology involved with the abuser and
(09:52):
the emotional abuses it goes along withit, and then the manipulation, so
you know, they you know,whether I'm sorry, you know you made
me do this, and and sotherefore you know, but I love you,
and then they make up or whatever. So there's a whole cycle that
goes on involved in domestic violence.And then, as you know, it
continues to escalate, and so itis more than just once. Most often
(10:18):
we see it as a pattern ofconduct. And then you have a victim
that's trapped in that situation and thehighest risk if they attempt to lead the
relationship of really serious physical harmor andbeing killed by their abusers. So you're
right, I mean, recidivism isa direct threat to public safety. Every
time you let this catch and release, it's an increased likelihood of repeat offenses.
(10:43):
And that the deterrence is just theleniency just reduces a deterrence. So
we need judges you asked about thequestion was about judges. We need judges
that understand this, that have experience, that have been through that that can
recognize who is the threat to safetyand who is the one that you can
(11:03):
release. I'm not saying keep everybodylocked up at the very you know,
and then but there's opportunities for us, you know, for for other judges.
Once a person is charged with thecrime, they go through a process
and then get indicted if it's afelony, or they get into the courtroom
if it's a misdemeanor. You haveanother judge with some time and space involved
(11:26):
before you can really you know,really in a domestic violence situation, you
want to remove that person because youneed the situation to calm down for the
safety of the individual. So youknow, you want to set a higher
bond something to make sure that they'reprotected by the time they get into the
courtroom. Let's let another judge takea review and assess the situation. They
(11:46):
have more information than just when whatthe arrest, because sometimes these investigations continue
and so we get we can geteven deeper into the facts of to what's
going on. But it's important tojudges that you elect because it is a
direct it's a direct impact on ourlives and our public safety in our neighborhoods
well. And it's certainly something weneed to keep in mind when we're voting
(12:07):
for prosecutor, because without a prosecutorthat's tough on crime, then it's never
going to be in front of ajudge to start with. So vote for
Melissa Powers for Hamilin County Prosecute.You can help her out. Go to
Powers for Prosecutor dot com. Isee you donate button, and I know
there's my listeners out there that wouldlove to help you out with your campaign.
That's one very simple way to doit. But you can also help
(12:28):
work on our campaign. Get ayard sign, but help support Melissa Powers.
And I imagine Melissa, you haveprobably heard there's going to be some
big, fat out of state moneycoming in to interfere with this campaign this
fall. That's right, You're absolutelyright. I mean, we have that
issue that has been done in othercities, and we know how it's destroyed
(12:48):
wonderful cities. I grew up here, I love our city. I want
to make sure that we can maintainour city can be a great place to
live and raise a family. Soeverybody should understand and public safety is on
the ballot this November. It doesn'tmatter what your politics are. We understand
that we have to fight against thesesaled policies that have ruined other big cities
(13:09):
throughout our country. We have visualdemonstration of that reality. Just read any
newspaper on any given day. AsI stare at the article about eighty seven
people being shot in Chicago over thefourth of July weekend, how long can
you prosecute Melissa Powers? Keep upthe great work. Best look on the
campaign powersfroprosecutor dot com to help herout. I'll look forward to having you
(13:31):
back on the program, and thanksagain for the hard work you do each
and every day. Thanks Brian
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