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You see, it's it's National Wildlife Day, It's Indigenous Literacy Day,
and National Macadamian Nut Day.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
That's what I'm celebrating.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
The judge's next Chuck Ingram on fifty five KRC, the
talk station.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
He th two five cares thetuch station, No Danny, No
one was expecting that one. Neila was judge edited a
Politano National Indigenous Language Day all right, whatever, well, he's
eating his Macedamian nuts. I am pleased, as I am
so pleased every Wednesday at this time to welcome back
to the fifty five Carsey Morning Show. Hey, highlight of
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my week, if not the highlight Judge Nitapolitano, welcome back
your roner.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
You're very kind, Brian, thank you for the warm invitation.
But somehow I'm not surprised that of those wacky holidays,
the one that Ingram is celebrating is the one involving nuts.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
It worked out great.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Oh and by the way, your name came up if
your ears were burning. On Sunday, we have this annual
event here in the city of Cincinnati. They call it
the Western Southern Wbon Fireworks Anyway, huge event. Half a
million people show up in the river front the fireworks display.
It's massive, and so iHeartMedia is the prime one of
the substations in our cluster here is responsible for it,
along with Western and Southern Anyway. The huge right there
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in front of where the fireworks blow up. And guess
whose table I sat at, Chuck Ingram's, and he mentioned
you a couple of times. He goes, does the judge
really appreciate my comments. Does he just make fun of me?
I said, Oh, no, it's great. I said, yeah, we
make fun of you a lot.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I love his comments.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Look, as you know, in this business, every knock is
a boost.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Yes, yes, and he does not intend any of its criticism.
It's just levity. So we get the best we can
get from Chuck. Anyhow, of course I get the column early.
I'm a lucky man forgetting it early. Now the FEDS
are spying on Congress. I love this question. It's almost
like a college logic question or a college philosophy question.
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Can government behavior be both lawful and unconstitutional at the
same time. It sounds like an impossibility, doesn't it. But
that's not the conclusion you've reached here, sadly, No.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
No, So, when when Congress validly enacts a law that
is unconstitutional on its face, that law is legal until
a court declares it unconstitutional, and when the FEDS comply
with that law, they are acting legally. But if it
is unconstitutional on its face, by which I mean it
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directly defies a clause of the Constitution, it doesn't take
much analysis to see that. Like you can suppress speech
on the basis of content, or you can search and
seize without a search war an issue by a judge,
something directly defining the constitution. If it's unconstitutional on its face,
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then the government's behavior is both legal and unconstitutional, and
it ought not engage in that behavior because the FEDS
who do the spying took the same oath as the
Congress that does the writing and the courts that do
the interpreting.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
But they do it anyway. And this is a.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Very sad Stuart I had not heard about until it
broke just right before Labor Day weekend that during the
Trump administration, the President was so aggravated, apparently at what
the January sixth Committee was doing, that he ordered the
DOJ to find a way to spy on two members
of the January sixth Committee, Congressman Adam Schiff, now running
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for the Senate in California. Congressman Swallwell first name escaping me,
also from California. Two liberal Democrats professed to adversaries of
Donald Trump. Members of the committee. The Fed's got all
of their emails and all their texts and all their
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phone calls. They did the same with a staff on
the committee. Some of them are ex FBI agents. They
even did this with the emails and texts of a
minor child of one of these ex FBI agent staff members.
Looking for something. They found nothing. They found nothing. But
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how how did they do this?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:01):
What did they tell a federal judge in order to
authorize this? Spine of the Justice Department, which claims that
stopped this under Biden, won't reveal how its predecessors under
Bill Barr did this?
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Okay, under what argument can they prevent this information from
being disclosed? This is another illustration of the people to home.
Our representatives are supposed to report, did the reports? Are
our representative? Of course, we live in a representative government,
regardless of Democrats to tell you all day long, we
live in a republic. Anyway, those folks are supposed to
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be providing oversight. Those folks are the ones that provide
funding for these organizations. Those folks might be able to
be in a position to say, hey, you work for me,
give me the damned documents. And yet time and time again,
anyone of the letted organizations said, no, I don't care
if the Foyer request, I don't the.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Don't know under what pretexts they are not providing these documents,
because the committee doesn't exist anymore. These legal but unconstitutional
searches and seizures produced no evidence of criminality. Nobody was
charged with anything. It's almost inconceivable to me what they
could have told a federal judge. We don't like what
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Adam Schiff and Eric Swalwell are saying. Therefore, we want
to listen to their phone calls. They have to show
probable cause of crime in the phone calls or in
the emails. What could that probable cause have been?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Whatever?
Speaker 4 (06:29):
It is Merrick Garland, the current Attorney General, who takes
credit and I give him credit for shutting down this
process which was still going on when Biden became president.
Trump was no longer president, the committee no longer existed.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Whatever.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Nevertheless, Attorney General Garland refuses to release what they told
a federal judge in order to get the search ont
makes me believe there was no search warrant. Makes me
believe that they did this by hacking, which is of
course a FELONNY. The Feds don't prosecute their own Monday.
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This is Wednesday, Monday. Ten FBI agents and ten US
marshals stole a plane in the Dominican Republic and flew
to Miami. The plane belonged to the government of Venezuela.
The pretext for stealing the plane was, this is the
private this is the air force one for Nicholas Maduro,
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who's the president of Venezuela. And he has the temerity
to violate American sanctions on Russia by allowing Venezuelan companies
to trade with Russia. He doesn't come in the United States.
It has an effect the United States. He was in Venezuela,
the plane was in the Dominican Republic.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
The Feds stole it. So the Feds don't care.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
If they violate the very same laws that they prosecute
the rest of us.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
For Viole lady, well, going back to let's just pick
shift for example, who had his emails rifled through, in
his phone calls and his text messages rifled through, probably
without a warrant, as you indicate. Doesn't he then have
standing if he knows it happened. We're always looking for standing.
We're away looking for someone to say, haha, I can
go into court and prove a civil rights violation. Can't
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he do that now? Or anybody else who had this
happen to them that we now know about.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
The answer I think is yes, I say, I think
he is not a suing one of the investigators, one
of the x FBI agents is suing.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
And in that lawsuit.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Came the names at Congressman Adam Schiff and Congressman Eric Swalwell.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
I had never heard of.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Any of this until the lawsuit was filed, I believe
last Friday, the friday before.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
The Labor Day weekend.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
I would think that Swalwell and Shift, who maybe don't
want to make a big deal out of this, Chief
is running for the Senate in California. Swalwell is running
for reelection to his House seat. Until after election day,
but yes, they would have standing because their harm was
unique from all others. This is not a complaint about
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mass surveillance. This is a complaint about individually, unique, targeted surveillance. Well,
you know, the FEDS have the courts have done everything
they can to avoid ruling on whether this spying without
search warrants is lawful or unlawful. They know it's unconstitutional.
They're afraid of the intelligence community like anybody else.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Justice Scalia, before he died.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Said to me he was convinced the court was being
surveilled by the NSA. The Court, the Supreme Court of
the United States, under surveillance by the NSA, which is
in the Defense Department, which is in the executive branch.
You tell me that's not a violation of the separation
of powers.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Well, you know, as we're through this, and I think
you make a really good argument, which was my thought,
that you know, one of these folks actually has standing.
This could actually end up in front of a court
where they could actually rule that this is all unconstitutional
and must be stopped. They don't perhaps want it to stop.
They got some invested interest in allowing the NSA to
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scoop through all of our private records and effects because
it benefits them from time to time that they're willing
to well have a violation of their own civil rights
and take a pass on it simply because they want
this conduct to continue.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
That is not what we have a judiciary for. Know
that the whole purpose of an independent judiciary is to
be anti democratic, to preserve the life, liberty, and property
of those of us being persecuted by the government. In
this case, two members of Congress with whom I agree
on very very little.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
The human beings. They have rights.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
They happen to be in the legislative branch of the government.
The executive branch can't do this without a warrant.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
And we have the right to know what.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
They told A if there was a warrant, and B
what they told the signer of the warrant, the federal judge,
in order to induce her for him to sign it. Look,
when they raided Trump's house, he was no longer the president.
We still got the warrant, and we still got the
affidavit affidavits that were submitted to the federal magistrate judge
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who signed the warrant. Why can't we get the warrant
and get the affidavits that were submitted to this judge
to invade the privacy of these two members of Congress
that probably was no warrant.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
I think I'm with you on that one.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
That's Look, when they raided Scott ritters house, one of
my regular guests, former marine, former head of the UN
Weapons Inspection Team, the one who went to Iraq in
Afghanistan and said there's no weapons of mass destruction. The
government didn't like what he said, but he demonstrated it
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when they raided his house. They brought with them huge
loose leaves. Well forty FBI agents, including a swat team
and a bomb squad, were looking for his mobile devices
and his desktops, and he told them where they were.
Two FBI agents were chatting with him, and they showed
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him the printed copies of all of his emails and
text messages from the past two years, enormous loose leaves.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
When he asked to see.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
The search warrant that generated it, they just smiled and
changed the subject.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
They didn't have a search warrant.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
This is scary stuff. Scary and what more can one say?
Our constitution apparently just does not mean anything any longer,
at least in time.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
I mean, this means a lot to Thomas Massy, it
means a lot to some of his colleagues on the left,
But for the vast majority of Congress it means little.
Maybe Congressman Swallwell and Schiff will look at the differently.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I don't know. I won't hold my.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Breath, no, but I welcome to them suing for violations
civil rights. I don't care that I disagree with them
on ninety nine percent of their issues. They have civil rights,
and so do you. And I and somebody's got to
defend them, So step up to the plate, because standing
is a tough thing to accomplish. Judge Edna Politano, judging
Freedom Find Them Online. Who are you going to me
speaking with today, your honor?
Speaker 4 (13:21):
I have Colonel Douglas McGregor at eleven in the morning
Eastern at twelve thirty in the afternoon, the aforementioned Scott
Ritter at four o'clock, Aaron Maze. It's a very very
exciting day for him. Oh yes, we didn't work Monday,
so we're doing all of our guests in four days.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Better late than never. Judging Freedom to Find Them Online.
Judge of Paula Tan tell.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Ingram I love him, and my regret is that I
was not under that tent with you guys.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Every year I know it will tell you it'll happen.
I feel confident, take care of your honor and talk
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