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He's a Second Amomen expert. Welcome back to the Morning show,
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A W. R. Hawkins. It's always great speaking with you, sir,
Hi Brian, great being with you, buddy. And I think
I know the quick answer to the question, what's the
Harris Waltz administration position on the Second Amendment? They would
like to eradicate it. I think boiled down if they
were given their wishes and their hopes and their dreams
and actually said it out loud, they just take it
away from us.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Your take, well, yeah, I can't argue with your take.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
They want to be as anti gun as Biden has been.
So basically we had Biden Harris anti gun, and now
they want to do Harris Waltz anti gun two point
zero and there's no difference. All the same gun controls
and all the same ignorance of how gun loss work well.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
And thankfully we do have the Heward decision and the
Brewin decision, a lot of other decisions that conclude as
you and I both have under always understood it to be,
the second moment is an individual right. You and I,
in the state of nature have a right to defend
ourselves with whatever means is necessary. The founding fathers knew this,
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and they put in an Act of the Second Amendment.
Think about that. Right after number one comes the right
to keeping bear arms. Obviously, that right to keeping bear
arms was what allowed us to liberate ourselves from British oppression.
They knew it, and they wanted to make sure the
government couldn't take them away like the British were doing.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
The American column right, No, you're exactly right.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
You're exactly right, And an important point made with somebody yesterday.
You know, not only did they protect the right for
them to own arms. But the arms they owned were
very much like the arms at the military owned. When
the Redcoats and they did and they had their muskets,
they were met with muskets very much like their own.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
And that's a fact.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Of course the left doesn't want included in elementary school,
high school, and college curriculum.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
But there wasn't a large gap.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Between the average citizen and the standing army as far
as equipment went. And so I think that's important too.
Not only did our framers hedge in gun rights, but
they hedged in gun rights with the intention. You can
read Fairless forty six and know it. They hedged in
gun rights with the intention that even the standing army
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couldn't overrun the people because the people would be armed
and they would be equipped well.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
And I know she was in her capacity as the
district attorney at San Francisco, she endorsed it. Amikas Carey
Breathe in that Heller case, which established the right the
individual right to keep them bear arms, she claimed that
it only provides a militia related right to bear arms.
I think that fails to appreciate history. Aw are because
local militias that'd be just like folks in your neighborhood.
We'd get together and form little units that would defend
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and protect themselves. We didn't have standing armies, we didn't
have organized sheriff's departments. And these are the early era
of our country. It was up to an individual to
defend himself. And sometimes you got together with the rest
of the folks in the neighborhood and next thing you know,
those militias are actually fighting the British right.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
You know you're right and beyond that, but you're right.
I'm not saying you're wrong. Here, I'm saying you're right.
And here's something else that's right. Not only did that happen,
but if you look at James Madison, he clearly anticipated
that the people would come together in militia to spend
off the federal government at some point. He anticipated that
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they could do that, that if they came together, even
a standing army could not defeat them, because they would
be armed.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Again. Federalists forty six or you one hundred sent right.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
This militia is part of American history, and it's also
part of what our founders anticipated would be occurring in
the future as America progressed.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Well, isn't it an interesting observation, elwr when you hear
someone like Joe Biden say there's no way, you know
you can you can shoot down in F sixteen with
your with your AK forty seven or AR fifteen. I
think it wasn't the afghanistanis that pretty much held us
at bay for twenty years until we finally pulled out,
And all they were armed with was a bunch of
AK forty sevens and whatever they could scrounge up by
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way of donations from foreign countries.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Yeah, no, you're not wrong. I'll tell you this though.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
But this makes the point though that we were making earlier.
When we begin to speak there is the left wants
to take away my AR fifteens because they're weapons of war.
You don't leave weapons of war. Well, they're not weapons
of war. There's some automatic twenty two rifles. And when
you start thinking about F fifteens and other things, then
you really appreciate the gap between the military and the people.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
As I say, at our.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Founding, there was no gap the there was no gap
between the equipment the military used and the equipment the
people used. Now there is such a gap that Biden
can make those threats, and I don't think our founders
would have ever tolerated this gap developing. I really don't.
People ask me all the time, should you be able
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to own a nuclear weapon?
Speaker 1 (05:45):
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I don't think it's practical because I don't know how
you would store the components. But as far as I've
said all the time, you know you give me right
now where I sit, literally within arms reach, there is
say three hundred blackout on an AR fifteen frames suppressed.
I would be no more dangerous if that were fully
automatic in hint and had a flamethrower on it, I
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would be no more dangerous Because I'm a law bided citizen.
So I don't really think of what weapons I shouldn't
be able to own, because no matter what I owned,
I'm not going to be a danger to my fellow citizens,
except for those who decide to break into my home
or try to do harm to myself or my family
during the day.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
I am a danger to those people.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Well, in which case you are obviously entitled to defend yourself.
I don't know if you have a castle doctor where
you live, but we certainly have it here in Ohio.
You are presumed that that person who has entered your
home unlawfully and without permission is there to do you
grievous bodily harm, and you can use deadly force for
anybody that breaks in your home. That's a warning to
all would be criminals. Yes, we out here in the
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general public own five hundred million firearms, and the vast
majority of us are law abiding, because if we weren't,
there would be a literal day to day bloodmath in
the street every day.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Right, I'm just I'm just telling you, Brian, you you
almost broke.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
My heart there. You said five hundred million, And I
know you're right. I'm not arguing with you, but can't
we do better than that? I mean really, I was
so excited for this interview and then you said that.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
And I went, wow, what a dawn? Five million? Can't
we do better than that?
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Well, a three hundred and forty or so million live
human beings, Some of them are not eligible to on
a fire because of their age, you know, kids, but adults.
I agree, everybody should have one. It's the ultimate equalizer.
In fact, there was I'm sure you've heard the stories
about Springfield, Ohio, overrun with twenty thousand Haitian immigrants over
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the past four years. There was a woman who was
testifying before one of their hearings on it, and she
pointed out, she goes, I'm afraid they have threatened me.
I'm a ninety six pound woman. How could I possibly
defend myself? My response is, get yourself a gun.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Right, that's it, you know, that's what you do. You
get a nine millimeter and if she's that small, maybe
she wants a three eighty, but get get either one.
Get acquainted with it and understand. You know, our founders
understood our greatest property, no matter how much you saved
in your four oh one k or in your IRA
or whatever, your greatest property remains your life. And our
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founders understood that law should law should center on our
ability to defend that life. And people have to under
we have to get back to that understanding. And that's
why you carry a gun. You don't carry a gun
because you love guns, although you may, You carry a
gun because you have to defend that chief property and
that's your life.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yeah, the life of my wife and children as well.
That's important to me as well. And you know the
other component of this, and I'll look at the heller
K's and the Brewined decision. Those are going to be
the targets of the left now, much in the same
way Roe v. Wade was a target of the right
for decades. They're going to do everything they can to
overturn that and to remove our right, are our individual
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constitutional right to keep them bare arms. And Kamala Harris
has set it out loud on a bunch of times.
She does embrace the idea to packing the Supreme Court
so they can get what they want by appointing a
bunch of liberal justices to undo what we already have
a right.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
And anybody who doubts what you just said has not
been paying attention because heller Who's decided in two thousand
and eight, from the moment it was decided, even until
twenty twenty four, if you read leftist commentators, they will
say the Supreme Court created, yeah, an individual right in
two thousand and eight, and that does exactly what you're saying.
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That sets up a liberal court to flip that decision,
saying that decision went too far, that decision created or right.
That's all they're doing is they're laying seed for harvest
down the road. And so anyone who anyone who's listening
to what you're saying, doesn't believe it, they're crazy to
the left. They can't wait to get control and get
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that court back under their control. And to me, that's
another reason why Trump has to win. We need more
jurists who are pro constitution not less.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Amen to that, aw R. Hawkins. She also.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Advocated for at least when the five seconds she was
actually running for president until she realized that there wasn't
a single Democrat who was going to vote for and
then dropped out. But it was twenty nineteen. She endorsed
the idea of a buyback program for basically all semi
automatic weapons. So that's another sort of solution that she
believes is going to actually work. Seriously, AWR, wouldn't that
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not turn into you and I and the rest of
the law currently law binding firearms owners into a bunch
of felons because folks like you and I probably wouldn't comply.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Right, But I would also get money for nice dinner.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Because I would sell them a rusted out a gun
for three hundred bucks. But yeah, I like like I think,
I tweeted last week dear Democrats, I didn't buy my
guns from you, so you can't.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I'm back, and that's it. I'm done. That's the end
of my argument. I'm done, you know. And it is.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Such a farce to believe these Stebens would give you
the value.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Of your gun.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Plus, it's such a farce to believe that, having taken
your guns, they would actually protect you. Plus it's such
a break from our founders to believe that I would
actually rely on an agent of the state to keep
me safe. Part of that Jeffersonian dream is that individual life,
that life full of individuality, where we protect ourselves and
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our own That was Jefferson's dream for the American people.
I will not lean on government for protection. I bore
that idea. I keep a gun on my hip, I
keep a rifle on my truck, and I can take
care of myself. So that's how we'll do that. Heymen,
that's kind of feeling.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I have a w R and I actually had to
pull my own handgun out in self defense. I had
a guy that tried to kill me on the expressway
by ramming me and trying to run me off the road,
and I really was in fear for my life. And
when I got out of my car because it became disabled,
that's the first thing I had in my hands was
my gun. I got the car out and just looked
very carefully at where I was and where he was
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relative to me, and that's when I saw him walking
across the street, and I thank god I didn't have
to use it, but at least I would. I was
able to defend myself if I had to. And that
was a situation where it was extremely unequal. This guy
was like six ' four, about two hundred and fifty
plus pounds. Hey man, I'm five ten and way ended
about one hundred and eighty five hundred and ninety, so
I had a sizeable disadvantage of that guy. No problem
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with the great equalizer, but just quick point.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I know of our times getting sore, But what you
said is important because everybody goes well, you know, if
maybe if we all gave up our guns, it'd be
more peaceful. No, once you get in that situation where
you take away that leveling tool, then you get a
situation where it might makes right. In the strongs who
have criminal or evil intent will dominate in a situation
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where it might makes right. And that's what the gun
is so important for because it let's that ninety six
pound woman you talked about in Springfield, Ohio. It lets
her make them afraid of her. That's how it should work.
I don't want to be afraid of them attacking me.
I want them to be afraid of the repercussions of
coming after me.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
That's what I want. And so that's what that woman.
I don't want that woman to fear them.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
I want them to fear the repercussions of attacking her.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
And that's how our founders looked at it. That's how
they looked at it. And Nood explains it better than you. A. W. R.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Hawkins brightbart dot com book market read what he has
to write regularly. I owns enjoy our conversations. Man, keep
up the great work. I'll look forward to having you
back on the show real soon.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Great being with you, buddy, Have a great day.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Thanks brother.
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