Debate analysis with Chairman Alex

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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Seven oh six at fifty five garr C the talk station.
Very happy Wednesday, so you try to make it happy anyway,
inspight of Well, what I view as a rather disappointing
performance last night by Donald Trump and Kamala Harris able
to at least manage to not totally screw up. Now
we're going to get the thoughts and impressions from the
Ohio Republican Party Chairman, Alex Chiranta Fila, Welcome back, Alex.

(00:37):
Always a real pleasure to have you on the fifty
five KRSE Morning Show.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Bryan, good morning, and privileged to be with you. And
you know I'd be remiss if I didn't say it.
Today is September eleventh, so let's take this the second
here to remember that that day. Many of us remember
that day very sadly. But anyway, No, it's good to
be with you and happy to talk about a little
bit about that debate last night.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
Well, what your takeaway, I obviously all morning I'm not
sure you. I don't expect you to have listened to
the program this morning. I viewed with the measure of disappointment.
I really thought, you know, given all of the issues
and where we are in this country and our debt,
and our uh, the immigration problem, on and on and on.
He is on the right side and the winning side

(01:17):
of so many issues. And yet she managed to squeak
by without totally screwing up. And he took the bait
quite off and thrown at him. Bait went back to
the stolen election. And you know, I could go on,
but I want your reaction, and I want to hear
what you have to say about it.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Well, look, clearly, I'm biased to favorite President Trump and strongly.
And you know what my thoughts are this and I've
got I've got many of them, first of all. And look,
I'm not a big fan of whining about the referees,
you know when I watch a sporting event. So I
don't love bashing the moderators, but you have to in
this circumstances. This was the worst moderated debate I've ever seen.

(01:53):
I mean, you know, Breitbart News does an excellent piece
this morning about the seven times they fact checked Donald Trump,
but they refused to fact check her on her multiple
multiple lies, you know, saying that many police officers died
on January sixth, approvable lie. Things like Donald Trump said
there are many, you know, people on both sides of

(02:13):
the issue that are good people. Meaning he was talking
about white racist, he wasn't. He was talking about a
healthy debate about monuments in our country. So you know,
many lies told by her. Listen. I mean, let's let's
go backward just for a second, Brian, and talk about
the first debate that was the most consequential, consequential presidential
debate in American history. Obviously, Joe Biden collapsed in that debate,

(02:36):
but that collapse was made made, you know, partially available
there because of Donald Trump's performance and how well he
had a command of things. And she didn't look. I
understand where people are coming from. Yesterday. They expected the cackling,
unprepared Kamala Harris that we've all gotten used to seeing,
and those of us who pay attention to it. So
she outperformed expectations, you know, barely in my mind, but

(02:59):
on substance, and she just didn't have the substance. Anybody
watching that debate last night did not walk away saying, Wow,
she has a real plan to curb inflation, or my gosh,
she's got a real, honest to God plan to stop
the flow at the southern border. No on style points.
You know, I'll give her a modicum of credit, not
a lot, but a little bit. She she certainly held

(03:20):
her own on style alone. And you know, that's what
she's been about. That's, frankly in a bigger topic is
you know, the modern American political debate sometimes is around style.
We watched Barack Obama win the presidency on what was
deemed a cool factor on nothing to do with you know,
nothing to do with this qualifications for the job. That
we're kind of seeing the same thing here where she's

(03:40):
just trying to win on style points. So you know, overall,
I saw a lot of what she had to say
was memorized. I thought the moderators were terrible. I thought
she refused to answer questions. Yeah why, you know, I
wish we were able to hold her feet to the
fire more on some of those refusals. But I think
a good set of moderators would have done a better
job of helping us see that. So those are kind
of my initial takeaways.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Well, I mean, I guess I have to, you know,
pivot over it and say, well, isn't that wasn't that
Donald Trump's job? Knowing full well the Dack is decked
against him going in. All she needs to do is
just get through it without totally screwing up. But she
offered a lot of opportunities for him to go directly toward,
you know, like what in the hell when you see
opportunity economy, which she mentioned multiple times, Alex, I have

(04:20):
no idea what that means. And isn't that a great
pivot point? Like what are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (04:26):
What?

Speaker 1 (04:27):
What the hell do you mean by opportunity economy? I mean,
you know, he has an obligation to pivot back and
do what the moderators aren't doing, which is point out
that what she's saying is a bunch of fluff, nonsense,
platitudes with no substance.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Well, yeah, I thought he had done some of that.
I really did. I felt like he especially towards the end,
the middle of the end of the debate, I thought
he did an excellent job. Really, I'm talking ultimately about
the differences between the visions that he has and the
vision that she has for the country. Look, I appreciate
those some of the frustration that you're feeling. I've read
a lot of this online. You know, she we those
of us who know that Kamala Harris is kind of

(05:03):
an empty suit expected to see more of that. And
when we you know, when we weren't able to sort
of have that happen because the moderators, you know, some
frustration set in, and I appreciate that, but I'm going
to tell you this, and I there's actually some overnight
pulling to a substantiate this. Nothing about this race has changed.
So again from my perspective, here in Ohio, Donald Trump

(05:23):
commands a big lead. This is a red state because
the Democrats have left the mainstream of American politics. Much
of what she tried to talk about never really did,
is not in the mainstream of American politics. We believe
in fracking, we believe in energy, we believe in secure
southern borders. We believe in you know, strong law enforcement
to protect us from the scourge of crime. All of

(05:46):
these things continue to be popular in places like Ohio
and in places like Pennsylvania. Look, she cannot run away
from her record on fracking. She cannot run away from
from the you know, porous Southern boarder that's now affecting
every single city in America, not just the border cities.
So you know, there's a lot that came out of
that debate on policy on policy, and you know, if

(06:06):
you look at the style point piece, I appreciate where
some people are this morning, but for me personally, I
feel like Donald Trump held his zone on policy last night.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
And that's a fair assessment. I mean, when you go
back and read the transcript, which I've got in front
of me, it's like thirty single space eight and a
half by eleven sheets of paper. When you read it,
it comes across as though you're right, he did get
some you know, good points in there, but she was
given such a pass. And I just look at so
many sort of missed opportunities, like, for example, and I've

(06:36):
been stuck on this all morning, but you heard the
top of the ron is they're making fun of Donald
Trump for mentioning the dogs and cats thing. It was
a much easier point and one that cannot be denied.
That you got twenty thousand Haitian immigrants that have descended
on Springfield, Ohio. I mean their own mayor complained to
my orcus about and a letter that was sent out
a couple of years ago. Listen, we got a problem
on our hands here.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
That's fact.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Stick to that and say, look, look, this is an illustration.
You see it in Chicago, you see it in New York,
you see it on the southern border states. They're overwhelmed
because of Kamala Harris's gross incompetence and refusal to secure
and protect our southern borders. Boom and the point. But
we went down to cat Road, well.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
And look, and I appreciate that this is actually And
again you're going to think I'm spinning hard, and I
really am not. I'm going to tell you something about
President Trump that we've all witnessed over the last several years.
He has a particular knack of simplifying things and getting
directly to the point. By talking about cats and dogs
and pets. He has us all talking about the greater

(07:40):
issue of immigration, whether it's just a sexier talking point
or a more persuasive way to get to the point.
He has us talking about Haitian immigrants this morning because
of what some people think is an outlandish statement. The
fact of the matter is, though in his own way,
he has us talking about it on the southern border.

(08:01):
He's the guy who said build a wall, three simple
words that moved the immigration debate into the forefront of
the American political psyche in the same way. He is
talking about these pets in a way that some of
us might be like, well, mister President, you know, get
to the point. Well, but listen, he has generally the
American people saying, what the heck's he talking about? And

(08:21):
when they look at what he's talking about, is it
relates to pets and cats and dogs, et cetera, they
will find out. And they're finding out that we have
twenty thousand immigrants descending on a town of sixty thousand
people in beautiful Clerk County, sprink to o Io at
place I've been multiple times, including with Bernie Marino. Let
me tell you what's happening. There is a travesty and

(08:42):
the fact that we can talk about it is again
in my own way, Brian, I really believe a little
bit of the brilliance of Donald Trump. He has us
talking about Springfield in a way we work, and he
did it by talking about your pets.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Okay, And I hear you, And is it because maybe
my expectations perhaps are a little too or because I
know so much about it, because this is what I
do for a living every single day, pouring through the
news and every afternoon pouring through the news. I know
all the details. I know what the facts are, and
I maybe presume that everybody knows that already. So you're

(09:15):
giving Trump credit for boiling things down to an easily
digestible sound bite that's going to cause people to talk
about it. That's the strategy, that is what he is about.
So you're giving him credit along those lines.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Well, I am, And again I think that's one of
the things that he does well. And Brian, you know
what you just said. And I'm getting a little deep
here this morning, but what you just said is what
we struggle with in the political business, so to speak,
all the time. Yeah, and that is always so in
our cocoon and so in our echo chamber that we're
not thinking about what the average citizen says. You know,
I routinely say to political candidates, walk into an olive

(09:50):
garden on a Saturday at seven o'clock and grab somebody
out of a booth, pull them outside, and ask them
what they know about politics, because that's the person that
we're trying to each Okay, I tick Olive garden because
you know it's got a big old you know, there's
people there from every walk of life, et cetera. But
I mean that average citizen, not people who are tuned in,
you know, every single day to talk radio or follow

(10:12):
the Wall Street Journal, et cetera. I'm talking about regular
people that are just living their lives and they're if
they're talking this morning about cats at Springfield at Springfield, Ohio,
they're going to learn about the Haitian migration crisis that
has affected our state.

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Speaker 1 (12:31):
Six twenty if if you have kr CD talk station
Brian Thomas with the Ohio Republican Party Chairman Alex TROWNIFILO
walking through the debate topics and criticisms and comments and observations.
There was a suggestion from the Harris camp, Alex that
they might want to do a second debate. Do you
think that's going to happen? I really don't. Her strategy
of hiding and again last night not even providing much

(12:53):
by way of specific information. Again, I go to the
opportunity economy and not knowing what the hell that means.
But she opened with it and ended with it and
didn't provide any details on at least not many. But
you think she's going to like go back into hiding
and not entertain a more substantive pressing press, assuming they're
even out there and willing to engage in a more
substantive conversation with her.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yeah, kind of two questions there is. You know, First
of all, I think you know that I have no
idea internally whether I'm not connected to the Trump campaign
in any official capacity, So I can't tell you whether or
not there would or wouldn't be a second debate, just
to be clear.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
To cover myself there sure no no take.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
I mean the one thing he could, yes, thank you,
but I you know, I here's here's the thing about this.
Donald Trump has shown a total desire to go into
the belly of the beast. I mean, you go onto
ABC News, a place that's completely horrifically biased against them,
and put up with those terrible moderators, you know, fact
checked over and over when she didn't get fact checked once,

(13:52):
you know it just kind of shows you the kind
of leader and the kind of president he is. He's
gone into every venue, friendly or unfriendly, and answered questions
for the American people. So would it surprise me if
he agreed to another debate. Wouldn't surprise me one bit.
You know. She, on the other hand, has has been
carefully scripted. She locked herself away for five days to
prepare to deliver those zinger sound bites that she, you know,

(14:15):
thought she did such a good job at doing last night. So,
you know, I honestly don't know if there'd be another debate.
Here's what I know, Brian, I don't think that last
night ultimately changed anything. I think a lot of us thought, well,
let's have a knockout punch to Kamala Harris. You know
that probably didn't happen last night. There was an overnight
poll that I asked to share on my Twitter that
kind of said the same thing, which is, people's minds

(14:36):
are kind of where they are, and look, if these
polls are even going into election day, we're going to win.
President Trump will win. He under he outperformed the polls
almost every time. And the fact of the matter is
the American people are smarter than we give them credit for. Right,
one debate performance or one debate overall is not going
to change this race for anyone who's actually looking at
the records of the past four years compared to the

(14:58):
records of the four years record four years before that
under Donald Trump. So I'm not sure a whole lot
of mind's got changed. It's something to talk about this morning.
But the American people are smart. They're going to make
a decision about whether they're better off today, you know,
than they were four years ago. And on that question
we went.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Big, okay, And at that point you and I agree completely.
I am firmly committed to that that, yes, the American
people are smart enough to know because they go grocery
shopping every week, they have to pay their energy bill
every week, they have to fill their gas tank up
probably every week. So yes, we are in a much
worse place now than we were four years ago. And
of course the immigration situation, I don't think that's gone

(15:35):
underneath anybody's radar, to be quite honest with you, It's
just been a national, constant, constant problem for cities both
blue and red. So those are you know, a couple
of great points that he's got in his favor. And
when it comes down to that polling, what did your
overnight polling reflect? And I guess I'm kind of curious
to know how you would get sort of in quote
unquote instant poll like that, Alex.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah, you know, the poll I just reap by sort
of republished on my Twitter was from the Trafalgar Group,
which is, you know, a nationally recognized polling firm. And look,
we could do an entire show on polling. We won't.
So polling is sometimes accurate, sometimes not the first snapshot. Yeah, yeah,
So the Trafalgar Group is a nationally known group. We've
we've actually used them here in Ohio account a few

(16:18):
things and anyway, but basically, the poll said that they
asked people before and after the debate where do you stand?
And nothing changed? You know, that's the basic takeaway from
that pole and I suspect that's ultimately how this works.
This was not you know, look, we saw in the
last debate what a disastrous debate looks like and with
for Joe Biden, and we saw his presidency end in

(16:39):
one debate that was not going to happen here, And
nor did I predict you know that one side or
the other would deliver a knockout blow. That was that
was a lot of us on our side really wanted that.
You know, we thought, we know that Kamala Harris is
a lightweight, not up to this job. And you know
the facts bear that out, not just one you know,
you know, fifty five minutes scripted, but anyway, you know

(17:02):
that was not going to happen and did not happen
last night.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
Well and you know when as you mentioned that, and
I've given this some thought about the Biden Trump debate
and what ended his political career, I really think that
they sent him out there for that express purpose. Biden,
they let him get they crucified him. I think they
intentionally let him go out there and monumentally screw up,
knowing full well that was going to happen, so they
could get him out of the race.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
The way the Democratic Party has treated, you know, one
of their fifty years stalwarts and Joe Biden is actually
all you need to know about the Democratic Party. I mean,
if you look at our party, you know, we we
have lifted up and celebrated our leaders for a long time,
from Ronald reag and cleared it. You know when we
buried President and President of first President Bush, you know
we lift up our leaders. The Democrats have thrown to

(17:47):
Joe Biden overboard in the most ignominious fashion. You even
saw Kamala Harris throw Joe Biden over the over the
rails last night. It was ugly and this is how
they act. And anyway, it none of it surprises me
about the Democrats at this point.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
Read Animal Farm and recall the character of Boxer, who
is basically Joe Biden. He used up his political life
and they set him off to the glue factory. Thanks
for your service, Alex Chrautafilo. Thank you for appearing on
the morning show. It's always wonderful having you on the
show and offering your your thoughtful insights and comments. I'll
look forward to talking with you again and I'm sure
we will before the election. Always a privileged Brian. Have

(18:25):
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