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Speaker 1 (00:54):
AY thirty fifteve KRCD Talk Station, A very happy Friday
eve to you always made happier because of this moment
in time. Every Thursday we get to talk to iHeart
Media Avation. Nextbert Jay Ratleif, who takes a few minutes
away from making thousands of dollars in a couple of
minutes as his day trade job to spend time with
my listeners to talk about aviation issues. Jay, welcome back,
my friend. Always love talking to you.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Now. Sometimes my students we take a few more than
a couple of minutes. Yeah. The key is to stay
away from the stocks that you know are gonna torpedo.
And when you know that, you can, you know, protect
yourself against losses and the games take care of themselves.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Ay man, And don't get greedy and just take your
ever ever ever ever know a bird.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
In the hand. Yeah, it's worth to they get in
run exactly there you go, all right real quick here.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
It wasn't on the list, but I had to ask
you about this because the visuals are just so wild.
Over in Atlanta, we had two Delta planes collided Atlanta
Airport and the tail got knocked off.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
One the vertical stabilizer.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
You're right. You and I've talked about airplanes that clip before. Yeah,
you know one get one one jets being pulled back
and it it nicks the plane next to it, and
you really have to sometimes look to see, oh oh yeah,
I see the little bit of damage right there on
one of the airplanes.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Right.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
This is the first time I've ever seen an entire
vertical stabilizer get ripped off the airplane. Now, you know,
if you're one of Ohio State Patrol's finest and you're
doing an investigation, a lot of times they will look
at the position of your car to see, okay, where
you had fault. I mean, where you were supposed to be.
When you look at that Bombardier jet, the CRG nine hundred,
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it appears to be center line right there on the taxiway,
kind of where.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
It's supposed to be.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
So that makes you think that the much larger A
three eight three point fifty that came by on its
way to Tokyo when it ripped off that tail might
not have been exactly where it should have been. So fortunately,
no injuries. Sadly, you know, two planes we had passengers
that had canceled flights. They had to reroute them, but
nobody got hurt.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
And that's always a good thing. When you got two.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Fully fueled aircraft that are preparing to take off. This
wasn't a bump, this wasn't a clip. This is something
that had a degree of speed to it. So I'll
be very, very anxious to see the NTSB report when
it's finalized.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Oh yeah, well, you know there's got to be some
sort of video of this. I mean at an airport.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Well, you know there should be. You know, Atlanta is
the busiest airport in the world. They've got cameras everywhere
at It's always surprises me when somebody's running from the
police they run into the airport. It's like, I'll run
into this casino.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
They will never spine me.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Yeah, well, they got cameras everywhere, I know.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I love that about convenience store robberies, was like, it's
on video. Here's a picture of the guy, Robin the
convenience He's like everywhere in the world.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Is like banks.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
You see banks, you could be the one place in
the world where you knew there was gonna be video
cameras you can look up and see when they never
were any place euse Now they are literally everywhere on
everybody's front door. And that obviously an airport. So I'm
dying to see a least video of how this happened,
because it's just the most odd thing to behold when
you see that entire tail section just knocked right off.
I mean, that's got to be on there really good.
(04:09):
I mean, this is not something that's sort.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Of stuck off that.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Yeah, they're designed not to come off. That's kind of
the whole the whole thing there. And you know, we'll
see if the smaller Endeavor air Delta subsidiary was where
they were supposed to be or not. But regardless, when
you're at the middle of your taxi way, there shouldn't
be danger of your aircraft coming into contact with any
other aircraft anywhere at all. So again, it may have
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been the smaller airplane's fault, I don't think. So we're
gonna to wait and see exactly, and the investigation will
find out and Brand has always will learn from it
will make commercial aviation say for him. You know, when
you go back and look at the history of accidents
decade by decade, you're struck in the seventies and the eighties,
even the nineties about how many plane disasters we had
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in the course of a single year. And so when
we see something like this that takes place where okay,
nobody was injured and we can learn from it. And
then you look at the number of non accidents really
that we've had decade after decade, it really just goes
to show that we are learning from all of these
incidents and we are making commercial aviation safer as a result,
(05:17):
not only for US carriers, but this information will be
shared with airlines all over the world.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
That's a very valid point. Day, I learn from your
own mistakes. You think Boeing would take that intoer heart, right, Well.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
There's also a self reporting situation. If you and I
are flying a flight of a commercial airline and we
make a mistake, we're protected if we report our mistake,
and we're encouraged to do so so that we can
a learn from our mistake, have others learn from it,
and then finally make sure that we try to provide
information that would prevent future crews from making that same mistake.
(05:51):
And it's maybe not done all the time, but it
is reported a lot of times where these pilots will
self report themselves with regards to something that took place. Now,
there's a lot of times something happens where they are
not as forthcoming as they should be, but many crews
are that and hats off to those men and women
because they're saying, look, okay, we made a mistake we
shouldn't have, but we're gonna learn from it and hopefully
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other crews can learn from it as well well.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Well, Paul, I to bring Jay Ratliffe back, continuing with
our safety incident, apparently some serious ones regarding Southwest Airlines.
We've got some cash fines for flight delays maybe coming
and memories of nine to eleven and the way air
travel has changed more with I heard media aviation expert
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Friday Eve Bright Time was with Ourheart media aviation expert
Jay Rattler, pivoting over in terms of safety incidents, moving
away from the tail falling off the airplane.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Southwest Airlines, what's going on with this one?
Speaker 4 (07:53):
I've talked about a couple of Southwest incidents that have
really been strange. One flight coming out Honolulu that got
to about one thousand feet and then all of a sudden,
the plane started to descend to four hundred feet above
the ocean before it resumed its flight only to determine
there was weather issues and they had deturned to come back. Then,
when a flight going into Omahall that was on final
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approach it should have been at about three thousand feet,
they were buzzing a neighborhood at five hundred FeOH and
air traffic Control had to call them and say, is
everything okay? And they said yeah, why because you're a
lot lower than you should be. Then we had a
flight coming into Tampa to Southwest Airlines much lower than
it should have been. So after all of these and more,
the Federal Aviation Administration has opened up an investigation and
(08:38):
Southwest Airlines has determined then it's a good time for
their eleven thousand pilots to undergo a full one day
of safety training. Over the next year, the eleven thousand
pilots can be required to attend these safety sessions in
hopes of reducing the number of these incidents and Brian,
when you look at Southwest pilots, these men and women,
a lot of mix military. I mean, these are individuals
(09:00):
who are all stars. They know what they're doing. So
when we had one situation over Honolulu, I thought, okay,
maybe a new pilot who knows well, maybe a maintenance
issue that contributed. But to have one after another after another,
and to be so low and not be aware of
it is what just blows my mind. I'm thinking, how
can you have two incredibly trained pilots at an altitude
(09:22):
much lower than they should be and totally unaware of it.
So we still don't know what caused those situations, but
Southwest is saying and probably this is legally a preemptive move,
you know, so that they can show the FA that, okay,
we're trying to take care of the situation kind of
as a business does.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
That's to remediate.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yes, the remediation steps very important in the law and
the area of a civil liability and legal liability.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Cheese, Louise, I just can't imagine.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
We'll look, it goes five hundred feet, man, you'll see
that unless you're at an airport and of someone's on
final approach.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Ran It was at twelve thirty in the morning, and
it was waking people up out of their homes. They
were calling nine one one thing and something's wrong.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yeah, there was something wrong, all right, Well, cash fines.
Airlines's gonna be facing fines for flight delays.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Biden administration's at it again. And you know, I do
not like much of anything of the Biden administration, but
they continue to go after airlines and their full steam ahead.
They're saying that there's a proposed rule that would actually
require US airlines to provide compensation cash to passengers for
controllable that's gonna have to be in quotes. Cancellations are delays,
(10:29):
and delays of three hours or more. They're talking about.
This could roll down the pike as early as January
of next year, and it would certainly be a game
changer for US passengers and certainly the US aviation world
because this type of rules are in place in many
other countries around the world, and we are so late
in getting there. Why Because it's the airlines. Many times
(10:51):
it tells the government what they're going to do, not
the other way around. And I'm really hoping that this
goes forward, and I can promise you just like the
transparent where the government wanted all the fees and everything
shown up front that the airlines fought. You can bet
your bottom dollar airlines are going to fight this tooth
and nail, yeah, with their very powerful lobbying group, because
(11:13):
they do not want this, because then they're going to
be more accountable, they're gonna have to do a better job,
et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
And I love it.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
I love the airlines being held accountable because they get
away with a lot that's just kind of you know,
they should be find a lot more than they are,
but it's negotiated down to some incredibly low amount with
the promise they'll never do it again, and far too
many times they get away with things. So when I
see this administration holding their feet to the fire, I'm
(11:42):
gonna say thank you. Look, when the Bide administration does
something stupid, which is often, I'm going to point it out.
And when they do things that I like, I'm going
to point it out. And certainly that's the case here.
And I don't know any other administration that has gone
after the airlines like this, And I do know in
the late nineteen nineties there was a move to make
airlines more customer service oriented. In fact, there was talk
(12:04):
at that time of reregulating the industries industry from a
standpoint of you guys are doing such a bad job,
we may go back to the days of regulation, which
we've not had since October of seventy eight, and Airlines
Northwest included where.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
I was at.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
We took it very seriously. We had complaint resolution officers
CROs on every shift to try to show that we
were responding to those complaints. And then, of course the
attacks of nine to eleven happened and everything went from
safety and or service over to safety of the airplanes,
and customer service was an afterthought, and we've never gone
back since.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
We'll pause a little early in the break, but I'm
want to take a break because I don't want to
give you a short shift, short time on the nine
to eleven memories and the way things were and the
way things are now and hub delays. We'll get that
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Speaker 1 (15:00):
Hey forty eight fIF five KRCD talk station. Very Happy
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In the meantime one we're second with Jay Rayle. If
you're talking reflections on nine to eleven. I know a
lot of things have changed since nine to eleven, including
my view of life. Generally speaking. That guy jumping out
of a window had just such a profound impact on
(15:20):
the way I view the world. Jay, just contemplating all
the bickering and the insignificant things that plague us each
and every day. They're so unimportant. If you meet that
moment in time where if you stick around in the room,
you're gonna get burned to a crisp, or your other
option is to jump ninety floors to your death. What's
going into your mind at that moment in time when
you're about to meet God. It's not what your neighbor's doing,
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or you know, just all the petty stuff would disappear,
and I can't imagine that, but just seeing that guy
jump just absolutely just it impacted me from that moment
in time forward and I still reflect on that an
unbelievably life changing day.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
And if you you know, yesterday, I spent time, as
I tend to always do, on nine to eleven watching
the documentary from the French Brothers were documenting firefighters not
knowing anything months before and leading up to and they
were in one of the towers when it collapsed, so
it is a real time type of thing, and Brian,
(16:21):
they can hear people jumping in the aftermath. It was
just horrific. And you're right. And I remember that day
because when the first plane hit the all the news
sources were indicating that it was a small airplane.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Yeah, so we're.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Thinking, okay, what weather related, and of course my phone
started blowing up. But when the second plane hit, we
knew we were under attack. We knew it was bin laden,
and we knew other airplanes were probably involved. The FAA
and the FBI were giving monthly updates to the aviation
industry and I was a part of them at the
time where they were letting us know that Bin Laden
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had made some credible threats against the aviation world, which
he had done before, and we were fearful that there
might be explosives in check luggage. We were fearful of
surface to air missiles. We were trying to prepare for
a lot of different contingencies on what might take place. Now,
when that second plane hit, we knew this was the
attack that we had been warned about. Now, the FAA
(17:21):
had a gentleman by the name of Ben Sliney who
was the head of the FAA that when the second
plane hit, we knew we were under attack. He made
the call to ground every airplane in the sky immediately.
He told the air traffic control centers, whatever is in
your traffic pattern, you land them at the closest available airport. Now. Now,
this has never been thought of, never been practiced. There
(17:43):
was no game planned, There was nothing in the works
that would prepare anyone for that order being given.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Well, they did it.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
The air traffic controllers pulled it off, and we knew
that any other plane that remained in the sky could
be an object of concern. So the call was a
great one to but Ben Sliney, who was head of
the FAA, Brian. That was his first day on the
job and he made that call, so looking back, it
was the perfect call at the right time. And of
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course it's changed commercial aviation because after that we began
screening check luggage, thank god for that. They had been
wanting to do that since the bombing of the panem
flight over lockerby Scotland, but we didn't do it because
we thought it was going to cost too much money.
It just kills me that money is so often the
pivot point where we're going to do something or we shouldn't.
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But we started screening check luggage, thank God for that
after nine to eleven, and instead of the magnetometers for
many times we used the full body imaging scanners. When
we would walk through the magnetometers, it would never detect
plastic or liquid explosives that could be strapped to our
bodies under our clothes, only metal. So the full body
imaging scanners would allow us to see if there's anything
(18:55):
under the clothing like powder or liquid that could be
used to bring an airplane down. Because in Russia we
had two planes crash in a very short span of
time where two passengers did have explosives strapped to their
body that were detonated and brought both of those commercial
airliners down. So flying now is certainly safer than it
was before nine to eleven. There's absolutely no way to
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have a counter to that, because on a one scale
of one to ten, we've probably gone from a four
to a six, maybe a six and a half. But
we've got other things we've got to do, and I'm
concerned that we're not. Instead, we're trying to further reinforce
the cockpit doors. And here we go again, trying to
stop the last attack versus trying to predict what the
next one could be. And a lot of times you
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spin your wheels in the wrong direction.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Well, isn't that the truth? All right?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Pivoting over, we always end on hub delays, Jay Ratliffe,
and I guess we'll n on hub Layze today.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Yeah, it's I mean New Orleans. Obviously, if you're flying
anywhere to or near the Gulf Coast, you're not going
to be getting anything because of the fact that right
now we're seeing a lot of storms, that major storm
coming across there, and it's causing all the flights in
New Orleans, Baton, Rouge, Lafayette, all of those through there
that are being impacted at the time, and that's going
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to continue throughout the course of the day. In fact,
the flights to and through those areas are going to
be impacted and bran because of the scope of that storm.
We're already seeing some flight cancelations in Atlanta, which is
being impacted because of the size of this storm. Dallas
could also be impacted. So pretty much anywhere towards the
Gulf Coast region, you're going to see some significant delays.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
You mentioned that'll probably continue for the next several days
as well.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
It will be in Airlines are doing a good job
of canceling flights in advance, so just make sure they've
got a way to get a hold of you. Fortunately,
it's September, which is one of our slowest travel months
of the year, May and September, so they're going to
have a lot of options if your flight is canceled
to give you much more so than it had this
happened let's say a month ago, when we were in
the middle of an incredibly busy summer travel season.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Fair enough, Jay Ratliffe always enjoyable having on the program.
I look forward to it every week and I'm already
looking forward to next Thursday with another discussion. Stay well,
my friend and best of helped you and.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Your better half me to you as well, sir, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Thanks brother.
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Speaker 1 (00:54):
AY thirty fifteve KRCD Talk Station, A very happy Friday
eve to you always made happier because of this moment
in time. Every Thursday we get to talk to iHeart
Media Avation. Nextbert Jay Ratleif, who takes a few minutes
away from making thousands of dollars in a couple of
minutes as his day trade job to spend time with
my listeners to talk about aviation issues. Jay, welcome back,
my friend. Always love talking to you.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Now. Sometimes my students we take a few more than
a couple of minutes. Yeah. The key is to stay
away from the stocks that you know are gonna torpedo.
And when you know that, you can, you know, protect
yourself against losses and the games take care of themselves.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Ay man, And don't get greedy and just take your
ever ever ever ever know a bird.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
In the hand. Yeah, it's worth to they get in
run exactly there you go, all right real quick here.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
It wasn't on the list, but I had to ask
you about this because the visuals are just so wild.
Over in Atlanta, we had two Delta planes collided Atlanta
Airport and the tail got knocked off.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
One the vertical stabilizer.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
You're right. You and I've talked about airplanes that clip before. Yeah,
you know one get one one jets being pulled back
and it it nicks the plane next to it, and
you really have to sometimes look to see, oh oh yeah,
I see the little bit of damage right there on
one of the airplanes.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Right.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
This is the first time I've ever seen an entire
vertical stabilizer get ripped off the airplane. Now, you know,
if you're one of Ohio State Patrol's finest and you're
doing an investigation, a lot of times they will look
at the position of your car to see, okay, where
you had fault. I mean, where you were supposed to be.
When you look at that Bombardier jet, the CRG nine hundred,
(02:37):
it appears to be center line right there on the taxiway,
kind of where.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
It's supposed to be.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
So that makes you think that the much larger A
three eight three point fifty that came by on its
way to Tokyo when it ripped off that tail might
not have been exactly where it should have been. So fortunately,
no injuries. Sadly, you know, two planes we had passengers
that had canceled flights. They had to reroute them, but
nobody got hurt.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
And that's always a good thing. When you got two.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Fully fueled aircraft that are preparing to take off. This
wasn't a bump, this wasn't a clip. This is something
that had a degree of speed to it. So I'll
be very, very anxious to see the NTSB report when
it's finalized.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Oh yeah, well, you know there's got to be some
sort of video of this. I mean at an airport.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Well, you know there should be. You know, Atlanta is
the busiest airport in the world. They've got cameras everywhere
at It's always surprises me when somebody's running from the
police they run into the airport. It's like, I'll run
into this casino.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
They will never spine me.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Yeah, well, they got cameras everywhere, I know.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I love that about convenience store robberies, was like, it's
on video. Here's a picture of the guy, Robin the
convenience He's like everywhere in the world.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Is like banks.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
You see banks, you could be the one place in
the world where you knew there was gonna be video
cameras you can look up and see when they never
were any place euse Now they are literally everywhere on
everybody's front door. And that obviously an airport. So I'm
dying to see a least video of how this happened,
because it's just the most odd thing to behold when
you see that entire tail section just knocked right off.
I mean, that's got to be on there really good.
(04:09):
I mean, this is not something that's sort.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Of stuck off that.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Yeah, they're designed not to come off. That's kind of
the whole the whole thing there. And you know, we'll
see if the smaller Endeavor air Delta subsidiary was where
they were supposed to be or not. But regardless, when
you're at the middle of your taxi way, there shouldn't
be danger of your aircraft coming into contact with any
other aircraft anywhere at all. So again, it may have
(04:35):
been the smaller airplane's fault, I don't think. So we're
gonna to wait and see exactly, and the investigation will
find out and Brand has always will learn from it
will make commercial aviation say for him. You know, when
you go back and look at the history of accidents
decade by decade, you're struck in the seventies and the eighties,
even the nineties about how many plane disasters we had
(04:56):
in the course of a single year. And so when
we see something like this that takes place where okay,
nobody was injured and we can learn from it. And
then you look at the number of non accidents really
that we've had decade after decade, it really just goes
to show that we are learning from all of these
incidents and we are making commercial aviation safer as a result,
(05:17):
not only for US carriers, but this information will be
shared with airlines all over the world.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
That's a very valid point. Day, I learn from your
own mistakes. You think Boeing would take that intoer heart, right, Well.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
There's also a self reporting situation. If you and I
are flying a flight of a commercial airline and we
make a mistake, we're protected if we report our mistake,
and we're encouraged to do so so that we can
a learn from our mistake, have others learn from it,
and then finally make sure that we try to provide
information that would prevent future crews from making that same mistake.
(05:51):
And it's maybe not done all the time, but it
is reported a lot of times where these pilots will
self report themselves with regards to something that took place. Now,
there's a lot of times something happens where they are
not as forthcoming as they should be, but many crews
are that and hats off to those men and women
because they're saying, look, okay, we made a mistake we
shouldn't have, but we're gonna learn from it and hopefully
(06:13):
other crews can learn from it as well well.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Well, Paul, I to bring Jay Ratliffe back, continuing with
our safety incident, apparently some serious ones regarding Southwest Airlines.
We've got some cash fines for flight delays maybe coming
and memories of nine to eleven and the way air
travel has changed more with I heard media aviation expert
Jay Ratliff. After I get to mention someone I love
or some people I love to mention, I'd be Wendy
(06:37):
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and you couldn't find better people. As far as the
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Friday Eve Bright Time was with Ourheart media aviation expert
Jay Rattler, pivoting over in terms of safety incidents, moving
away from the tail falling off the airplane.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Southwest Airlines, what's going on with this one?
Speaker 4 (07:53):
I've talked about a couple of Southwest incidents that have
really been strange. One flight coming out Honolulu that got
to about one thousand feet and then all of a sudden,
the plane started to descend to four hundred feet above
the ocean before it resumed its flight only to determine
there was weather issues and they had deturned to come back. Then,
when a flight going into Omahall that was on final
(08:15):
approach it should have been at about three thousand feet,
they were buzzing a neighborhood at five hundred FeOH and
air traffic Control had to call them and say, is
everything okay? And they said yeah, why because you're a
lot lower than you should be. Then we had a
flight coming into Tampa to Southwest Airlines much lower than
it should have been. So after all of these and more,
the Federal Aviation Administration has opened up an investigation and
(08:38):
Southwest Airlines has determined then it's a good time for
their eleven thousand pilots to undergo a full one day
of safety training. Over the next year, the eleven thousand
pilots can be required to attend these safety sessions in
hopes of reducing the number of these incidents and Brian,
when you look at Southwest pilots, these men and women,
a lot of mix military. I mean, these are individuals
(09:00):
who are all stars. They know what they're doing. So
when we had one situation over Honolulu, I thought, okay,
maybe a new pilot who knows well, maybe a maintenance
issue that contributed. But to have one after another after another,
and to be so low and not be aware of
it is what just blows my mind. I'm thinking, how
can you have two incredibly trained pilots at an altitude
(09:22):
much lower than they should be and totally unaware of it.
So we still don't know what caused those situations, but
Southwest is saying and probably this is legally a preemptive move,
you know, so that they can show the FA that, okay,
we're trying to take care of the situation kind of
as a business does.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
That's to remediate.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yes, the remediation steps very important in the law and
the area of a civil liability and legal liability.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Cheese, Louise, I just can't imagine.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
We'll look, it goes five hundred feet, man, you'll see
that unless you're at an airport and of someone's on
final approach.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Ran It was at twelve thirty in the morning, and
it was waking people up out of their homes. They
were calling nine one one thing and something's wrong.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yeah, there was something wrong, all right, Well, cash fines.
Airlines's gonna be facing fines for flight delays.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Biden administration's at it again. And you know, I do
not like much of anything of the Biden administration, but
they continue to go after airlines and their full steam ahead.
They're saying that there's a proposed rule that would actually
require US airlines to provide compensation cash to passengers for
controllable that's gonna have to be in quotes. Cancellations are delays,
(10:29):
and delays of three hours or more. They're talking about.
This could roll down the pike as early as January
of next year, and it would certainly be a game
changer for US passengers and certainly the US aviation world
because this type of rules are in place in many
other countries around the world, and we are so late
in getting there. Why Because it's the airlines. Many times
(10:51):
it tells the government what they're going to do, not
the other way around. And I'm really hoping that this
goes forward, and I can promise you just like the
transparent where the government wanted all the fees and everything
shown up front that the airlines fought. You can bet
your bottom dollar airlines are going to fight this tooth
and nail, yeah, with their very powerful lobbying group, because
(11:13):
they do not want this, because then they're going to
be more accountable, they're gonna have to do a better job,
et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
And I love it.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
I love the airlines being held accountable because they get
away with a lot that's just kind of you know,
they should be find a lot more than they are,
but it's negotiated down to some incredibly low amount with
the promise they'll never do it again, and far too
many times they get away with things. So when I
see this administration holding their feet to the fire, I'm
(11:42):
gonna say thank you. Look, when the Bide administration does
something stupid, which is often, I'm going to point it out.
And when they do things that I like, I'm going
to point it out. And certainly that's the case here.
And I don't know any other administration that has gone
after the airlines like this, And I do know in
the late nineteen nineties there was a move to make
airlines more customer service oriented. In fact, there was talk
(12:04):
at that time of reregulating the industries industry from a
standpoint of you guys are doing such a bad job,
we may go back to the days of regulation, which
we've not had since October of seventy eight, and Airlines
Northwest included where.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
I was at.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
We took it very seriously. We had complaint resolution officers
CROs on every shift to try to show that we
were responding to those complaints. And then, of course the
attacks of nine to eleven happened and everything went from
safety and or service over to safety of the airplanes,
and customer service was an afterthought, and we've never gone
back since.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
We'll pause a little early in the break, but I'm
want to take a break because I don't want to
give you a short shift, short time on the nine
to eleven memories and the way things were and the
way things are now and hub delays. We'll get that
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In the meantime one we're second with Jay Rayle. If
you're talking reflections on nine to eleven. I know a
lot of things have changed since nine to eleven, including
my view of life. Generally speaking. That guy jumping out
of a window had just such a profound impact on
(15:20):
the way I view the world. Jay, just contemplating all
the bickering and the insignificant things that plague us each
and every day. They're so unimportant. If you meet that
moment in time where if you stick around in the room,
you're gonna get burned to a crisp, or your other
option is to jump ninety floors to your death. What's
going into your mind at that moment in time when
you're about to meet God. It's not what your neighbor's doing,
(15:43):
or you know, just all the petty stuff would disappear,
and I can't imagine that, but just seeing that guy
jump just absolutely just it impacted me from that moment
in time forward and I still reflect on that an
unbelievably life changing day.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
And if you you know, yesterday, I spent time, as
I tend to always do, on nine to eleven watching
the documentary from the French Brothers were documenting firefighters not
knowing anything months before and leading up to and they
were in one of the towers when it collapsed, so
it is a real time type of thing, and Brian,
(16:21):
they can hear people jumping in the aftermath. It was
just horrific. And you're right. And I remember that day
because when the first plane hit the all the news
sources were indicating that it was a small airplane.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Yeah, so we're.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Thinking, okay, what weather related, and of course my phone
started blowing up. But when the second plane hit, we
knew we were under attack. We knew it was bin laden,
and we knew other airplanes were probably involved. The FAA
and the FBI were giving monthly updates to the aviation
industry and I was a part of them at the
time where they were letting us know that Bin Laden
(16:59):
had made some credible threats against the aviation world, which
he had done before, and we were fearful that there
might be explosives in check luggage. We were fearful of
surface to air missiles. We were trying to prepare for
a lot of different contingencies on what might take place. Now,
when that second plane hit, we knew this was the
attack that we had been warned about. Now, the FAA
(17:21):
had a gentleman by the name of Ben Sliney who
was the head of the FAA that when the second
plane hit, we knew we were under attack. He made
the call to ground every airplane in the sky immediately.
He told the air traffic control centers, whatever is in
your traffic pattern, you land them at the closest available airport. Now. Now,
this has never been thought of, never been practiced. There
(17:43):
was no game planned, There was nothing in the works
that would prepare anyone for that order being given.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Well, they did it.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
The air traffic controllers pulled it off, and we knew
that any other plane that remained in the sky could
be an object of concern. So the call was a
great one to but Ben Sliney, who was head of
the FAA, Brian. That was his first day on the
job and he made that call, so looking back, it
was the perfect call at the right time. And of
(18:12):
course it's changed commercial aviation because after that we began
screening check luggage, thank god for that. They had been
wanting to do that since the bombing of the panem
flight over lockerby Scotland, but we didn't do it because
we thought it was going to cost too much money.
It just kills me that money is so often the
pivot point where we're going to do something or we shouldn't.
(18:33):
But we started screening check luggage, thank God for that
after nine to eleven, and instead of the magnetometers for
many times we used the full body imaging scanners. When
we would walk through the magnetometers, it would never detect
plastic or liquid explosives that could be strapped to our
bodies under our clothes, only metal. So the full body
imaging scanners would allow us to see if there's anything
(18:55):
under the clothing like powder or liquid that could be
used to bring an airplane down. Because in Russia we
had two planes crash in a very short span of
time where two passengers did have explosives strapped to their
body that were detonated and brought both of those commercial
airliners down. So flying now is certainly safer than it
was before nine to eleven. There's absolutely no way to
(19:18):
have a counter to that, because on a one scale
of one to ten, we've probably gone from a four
to a six, maybe a six and a half. But
we've got other things we've got to do, and I'm
concerned that we're not. Instead, we're trying to further reinforce
the cockpit doors. And here we go again, trying to
stop the last attack versus trying to predict what the
next one could be. And a lot of times you
(19:38):
spin your wheels in the wrong direction.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Well, isn't that the truth? All right?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Pivoting over, we always end on hub delays, Jay Ratliffe,
and I guess we'll n on hub Layze today.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Yeah, it's I mean New Orleans. Obviously, if you're flying
anywhere to or near the Gulf Coast, you're not going
to be getting anything because of the fact that right
now we're seeing a lot of storms, that major storm
coming across there, and it's causing all the flights in
New Orleans, Baton, Rouge, Lafayette, all of those through there
that are being impacted at the time, and that's going
(20:11):
to continue throughout the course of the day. In fact,
the flights to and through those areas are going to
be impacted and bran because of the scope of that storm.
We're already seeing some flight cancelations in Atlanta, which is
being impacted because of the size of this storm. Dallas
could also be impacted. So pretty much anywhere towards the
Gulf Coast region, you're going to see some significant delays.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
You mentioned that'll probably continue for the next several days
as well.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
It will be in Airlines are doing a good job
of canceling flights in advance, so just make sure they've
got a way to get a hold of you. Fortunately,
it's September, which is one of our slowest travel months
of the year, May and September, so they're going to
have a lot of options if your flight is canceled
to give you much more so than it had this
happened let's say a month ago, when we were in
the middle of an incredibly busy summer travel season.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Fair enough, Jay Ratliffe always enjoyable having on the program.
I look forward to it every week and I'm already
looking forward to next Thursday with another discussion. Stay well,
my friend and best of helped you and.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Your better half me to you as well, sir, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
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