55KRC Friday Show

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Five o five at fifty five krc B Talk Station.
Happy Friday is a vacation.

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There.

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It is a definite confirmation it's Friday, in case you
had any doubt in your mind.

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Woo hoo.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Thank you Joetrekker, exec could producer. My name's Riyan Thomas
hos to the fifty five krc Morning Show. Appreciate you
tuning in. Hope you can stick around all day. What
a loaded show we've got today. Thank you Joe Strekker
for lining up all the guests which I dearly, dearly
love to talk to. Of course, Tach Friday with Day've
had her every Friday at six thirty table. We'll talk
about a ransomware attack and certain things you need to
do to avoid ransomware attacks. Also digital death cleaning. I

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have no idea what that is. You and I are
going to learn together. There's never a day that goes
by I don't learn something doing the fifty five care
See Mornings show, especially on Fridays. You can always count
on that. With Dave Adders, we'll find out together what
digital death cleaning is. And finally, sadly, Chinese hackers apparently
are at it again. I think I don't mean again,
that's the topic, but they never stop. It's a frightening

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reality of But it's a twenty four hour day, seven
day a week thing for the hackers. They do it before.
That's their job, paid by the Chinese Communist Party to
break into our systems. Anyway, don Heinrich Toltzman Hair Toldtzman
are resident not really doesn't live in the basement down here,
but German scholar FC. Since he is going to be
demolishing some historic beer tunnels for the purposes of the

(01:50):
stadium expansion, hmmm, I'm guessing hair Toldsman's probably not real
happy about that. He's written books on the rise of
the since I beer baronsing is all about it, since
I brewing history is still alive, and well, all the
new breweries opening up, that's a great thing. We're going
to talk a little bit about that. But you know,
we do have a history here. Those tunnels probably would

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be entitled to historic protection, one might imagine. Anyway, and
he Plugstead is going to join the program at seven thirty.
One of the owners of a new brewery opening in Harrison, Ohio,
the Hearth Brewery. He started brewing beer in his garage.
He's now turning it into a business. So Andy's going
to join the program. Entrepreneurial guy. He is seven thirty

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with him, Cheryl pop on a flight tri State got
an honor flight next Tuesday, and I know that that
is a wonderful, wonderful thing. Having had the opportunity to
be two of them to guardians on two flights, what
an amazing, amazing couple of days those were. Just if
you get a chance to do it, do it, do it,

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do it, get on the list, get on the waiting list,
and it's just just a beautiful experience. And of course
we'll talk about the welcome home ceremony, which is something
that you should definitely attend as well if you can't
go on an honor flight and you've never been to
one of those welcome home sera. As you know, I'm
not overstating the case on how amazing it is. Just
an uplifting time. So that's an opportunity that doesn't require money,

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just a little bit of time and a trip to CVEG.
Bill O'Reilly returns Joe Tracker. I didn't get a copy
of his book in advance, neither did you. That's a
first for O'Reilly He's usually a stickler about asking like
right out of the gate, did you read my book?
And I always make a point of reading O'Reilly's book
and books ahead of time because he provides him like

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two months in advance, and then I can avoid saying
no to his question, did you read the book today?
The new book Confronting the Presidents? I have not read,
but I've read all the notes that I've been provided,
and it's pretty eye opening. It's kind of a breakdown
of all the presidents and their quirks and their Shenanigan's
Can I use that word? And one more guest at

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eight thirty Sean Maloney first Empower You series of the
False Semester, A valuable discussion I'm gonna be having with
Sean lethal force and the law when you can use
lethal force and when you can We're gonna be having
a great discussion on the what they call reasonable I
suppose it's person now. When I went to law school,

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they always called it the reasonable man standard. Was it
reasonable under the circumstances? So, if you're in front of
a jury and you've been accused of using deadly force incorrectly, improperly,
was it reasonable under the circumstances. That's why I always
focus on you know, are you legitimately feeling some anticipation

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of grievous bodily harm or deadly bodily harm. Some guy's
coming at you with a knife, running full speed. It
would be reasonable for you to expect that person is
going to be, you know, maybe trying to kill you,
in which case you can use deadly force. If the
guy's running away from you, you have no reasonable expectation
that the guy is coming to try to do you harm.

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You can't shoot him in the back. That's why I
always point out you can't shoot somebody merely because they're
taking a rake out of your driveway or taking property
from you. That is not deadly force. You can't use
deadly force to deal with the circumstance that doesn't involve
you know, legitimate concern for your own personal well being.
So we'll talk to Sean Maloney about that again. That'll

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be the first Empower You Fall Semester Empower Youamerica dot
Org at the entire list. What a great thing. Dan Reagan,
old and former owner of f M USA, now retired
from that business. Yow, great guy. Now I'm going to
pivot over here because Springfield's still in the news, and
I saw this. I don't know who started it, but
there was this really long back and forth on Facebook,

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and Drew Pappas, former Anderson Township trustee, called the program yesterday.
We were talking about something completely unrelated to the illegal
immigrant situation we got going on. But I learned from
looking at this back and forth, which also included a
couple of articles I had not seen, it is impossible
to see all of the news related to all the
topics and all the news outlets across America, so I can.

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I will acknowledge many things fly below my radar.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
You know.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
People call in and bring things up to my attention
all the time, and I'm like thankful that they bring
them to my attention. But it's just sort of a
recognition that you can't stay on top of everything. And
so it was through this back and forth exchange regarding
it sort of a springing off the problem they're having
in Springfield with the Haitian migrants well documented by now

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to a problem we have here locally. I guess it's
Lachland and Wyoming are struggling with an influx of Mauritanians
that has been building over the past couple of years. Mauritania,
check it out. It's in Africa, and a couple of
these articles documented how Mauritanians can get from there to

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hear and I'm telling you it is not an easy
thing to do in terms of the securitest path they
have to go through, and all the countries they have
to go through, and the loopholes they have to exploit.
It's insanity. Nonetheless, apparently thousands of them have descended upon
the Greater Sincinnti area, notably locked On, Wyoming. A lot

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of people from lock On, Wyoming chiming in saying yep,
I can confirm that is the case. So guess what
Brian Thomas learned something through that exchange. And I did
click on and looked at some of the articles. One
was purported by Fox nineteen. And then there was another
Washington Post article about this situation from June of this

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year that I hadn't seen. June ninth, twenty twenty four,
Tim Craig the headline A home in Ohio for African
immigrants with nowhere to go, subadding a solumn Secrets from
the African nation of Mauritania settling in a city drawing
relatively little attention as immigration to the United States has soared.

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Documenting this current situation so independent journalists have confirmed what
others were saying in this Facebook exchange brought to my
attention for the first time this morning. So, but I
wanted to acknowledge something that after the debate, when we
were still reeling from Trump taking debate and maybe not

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performing as well as we had hoped, Kamala Harris getting
away with it, largely because, of course the panel was
biased in her favor and didn't fact check her and
allowed her to get away with a lot of things
that she shouldn't. But going back and reflecting over what
we learned from her and the polls that have come
out since then didn't really help her at all. Most
people befuddled by what she said, didn't really get anything
by way of substance out of Kamala Harris and I

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will all agree with that, and our focus was more
on Trump just sort of reacting to some of the
comments of Kamala Harris, and that was the source of
much frustration. One of the things I brought up with
Elextreme to filow was you know, for example, geez, why
did Trump have to mention the Haitian population in Springfield

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eating dogs and cats. It was one of those stories
that I didn't necessarily believe when I first read it.
I even said that out loud on the Morning Show
on Monday, I think, you know, this is really going viral.
What we found out as a consequence of that, we'll
call it meme that there was a cat strung up

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in a tree. That's the one that went viral. Then
it became dogs and cats are being eaten, and we
had geese in the park and ducks in the park,
and these little stories came up and they went completely viral.
So the city officials denied that they had ever gotten
any reports on it, and there's some evidence that no,
there are people that did call the police. But the
point being, I was arguing that, you know, did you
really have to go down that road. It has not

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been confirmed that that was going on. But what has
been confirmed, and what we do know, is that twenty
thousand Haitians showed up in Springfield over a very short
period of time, and the residents are dealing with the aftermath.
That is a failure of the Biden Harris administration, plain
and simple. They weren't notified, they weren't prepared. They aren't prepared.
The governor of Wine, of course, is now throwing two
and a half million dollars in providing resources a national

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guard to help them deal with the whole situation. What
did Trump do, though, And maybe it was the stroke
of genius or maybe his desire to just bring that
horrific sort of idea that Haitian immigrants were eating people's
pets to the nation's attention, But what it did, everyone

(10:37):
looked into it, So whether it was true or not,
it has brought amazing attention to the realities of the
Biden Harris administration's open border problems or policies that have
created all these problems. So as I step back and

(10:58):
reflect further, I'm thinking, hm, and this is kind of
what Alex said. You know, well, you know that's his Trumps.
He's bringing it up, and he didn't have much criticism
for for doing that like I did. But you know,
a few days later, this story has just absolutely blown up,
and it wouldn't have. I'm convinced, and I may be wrong,

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I acknowledge I can be wrong, But if he'd had
just stuck with what my recommendation would have been. Listen,
just bringing say, twenty thousand people have shown up in
a community of sixty thousand people, and the Springfield residents
are reeling from it. You know, you can bring that
up and it's great points. It's a wonderful illustration of
the broken border policies under the Harris Trump administrator Harris

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Biden administration. But what really made it viral was the
fact that he did mention that mean kind of story
about the pets getting eaten. And of course the left
reactions is, oh, there's Donald Trump going off or you know,
the city officials have said this isn't true, but that's
the repetition of the underlying story. While criticizing Trump for

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bringing it up, the left wing media has elevated this
story and the underlying realities to the whole world's attention,
and people continue to talk about it. So here I am.
I'm going to now give credit to Trump for something

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that I criticized him for and was critical of him
at the moment I heard the words escaping his mouth.
It had the effect of solidifying in our minds how
disastrous Kamalo, Harris and Joe Biden have been for the
entire United States of America and bringing more focus and attention,

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like okay, the residents of Locke, n Wyoming waving their
hands around. Perhaps I don't know. I'm just seeing what
I'm reading, and I'm looking and reflecting on the actual
you know, mainstream media reporting on the realities of what's
going on there, and so more and more people say, Hey,
that's happening in my neighborhood. Springfield isn't the only one.

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Come on, what about us? Where's our love? Hey, Mike Dewarreant,
how about a two and a half billion do a
check for our neighborhood? Right, none of which can be
beneficial at all to Kamala Harrison her efforts to become
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Speaker 1 (14:46):
Jay Right Well that cracks it up every time. I
know you're like Thomas is labbing again. Every time we
hear it, it's like I've heard it for the first time.
Let's hear from Let me forget the peak, tell them
all right, let me got it out of a system, Pete,
get it out of your system. Welcome to the Morning Show.

(15:06):
Happy Friday to you, sir.

Speaker 5 (15:09):
Thanks Brian, thanks for all the information you share with everybody.
I just want to say when I listened to Alex,
I felt better about the whole situation, and it appears
he was correct about because the biggest takeaway from this
entire debate was a cat and dog thing. But I
just want to remind people anybody skeptical of that there

(15:31):
were actually two people arrested for actually eating an eagle,
which is our national symbol, and he should have threw
that in there.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yeah. Well, it is a felony to mess with an eagle,
that's for sure. I mean, you know, and honestly, Pete,
say what you want about that, and if that is true,
whether or not it's true, obviously it's the problem, but
allows you to pivot over to something that's absolutely amazing,
the recovery of the ego population from the seventies. Now,
I mean we've got met and testing pairs all over

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the country. Now, the number of eagles had dwindled down
to a people blamed DDT whatever, you know, the point being,
there were very few of them, and now look how
many there are. It's just a beautiful thing, our nation
symbol back from the brink of extinction. But yeah, that's
what you're right in terms of this is why I
brought that up as a topic point right out of

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the gate this morning. What do we remember from the
debate from a couple of days ago, Probably more than
we'll remember from most of the prior debates, with the
one exception of the Biden Trump debate, in which we
all remember one amazing thing, which is Biden did such
a crappy job and came across as so infirm and

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cognitively impaired that the rest of the world finally woke
up to the fact that he was infirm and cognitively
impaired so much that he had to drop out. Do
you remember anything else from that debate? And you remember
the aftermath, and I bet you fast forward five years
from now when you reflect back on the Harris Trump debate.
The only thing anybody's gonna remember is the fact that

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Donald Trump mentioned people eating dogs and cats, which had
the effect of bringing the problem of illegal immigration to
the nation's attention. Whether the point made, the statement made
was true or not. So that's why I'm saying, if
he calculated that, then he's brilliant or he just got

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a freebie because he went a little bit off script
and clung to the crazy component of the story rather
than focus on the My point would have been again,
the twenty thousand people, the ratio of residents, the influx
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like you know, the struggling to pay rent one month
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some resources. The Help Squad sinci dot com is where
you find them. Over the local stories here we got
five suspects arrested after being accused of firing at undercover
police officers and then leading the police on a pursuit
from Cincinnati into Coleraine Township. Chief Teresa Thiji said undercover

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officers and District four investigating when a vehicle a vehicle
when passengers began shooting at the officers and took off.
Started on Center Hill Avenue when Winton Terrace, continued through
Green Township before ending on a dead end road in
cole Ringe Township. Thiji said undercover officers weren't injured. Thank god,
no officers were injured during the pursuit either. According to

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her statement, we have no suspect in from the two
or three were in the vehicle. And apprehended. Others fled
on foot and were later apprehended. At one point stopsticks
were used and their tires were flattened, but they refused
to stop. Tij said she didn't know if the suspects
were juveniles or adults. Thanks Fox nineteen, Chandler Win and
BJ Bethel reporting on that, and thanks to the WCPOS

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Taylor Wheeler Wider for bringing this one in my attention.
Since A Public Schools a little bit of a microscope here.
Thirteen year old taken to since any Children's after shooting.
After a shooting near Taft High School yesterday afternoon, since
I Police set officers responded to the fourteen hundred block
at John Street just a four four pm for report

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of a shooting. Thirteen year old boy was found shot
in his arm, taking it since at Children's Medical Center
for treatment and expected to be okay. Police of the
scene said the teen was a student shot shortly after
dismissal time in a statement. Since A Public Schools said
it security team responded immediately, bringing students back into the
school building after the shooting. Dozens of police units then
locked off the area around the school to investigate. According

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to the CPS statement after all after school activities were
canceled as a precaution. There will be additional security counselors
at Taffed High School tomorrow. I e today to provide
continued support for students and staff, but he said there's
no suspect information at the time of the reporting and
the family of a special needs teenager demanding changes after

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teachers that are tried state of high school taped their
special needs son to a chair. You may recall this
from last spring. Dustin Hodge, student of West Claremont High School,
was taped to a chair March first by former teachers
Alison Vesting and Rachel Smith, who recorded the incident. The student,

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Dustin Hodge, can be heard on the video asking for
help and telling the teachers to stop. Angela Hodge his mother.
So the family was relieved, relived the incident in court
hearings for a months. She hopes it's coming to an
end soon. Vesting pleaded no contest unlaw for restraint, given
Communities service and can no longer work with special needs kids.
Smith found guilty of on lawful restraint and child endangering
after she went to trial. Scheduled to be sent ince

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October second, Dustin's father, Mark Hodge, speaking with Brenda or
Don as a Fox nineteen one sup prevent similar and
since from having again. He said, for him to be
taken care of by anybody else. You know, you don't
know what's ever going to happen to him. We want
to outlive him, so that's kind of our goal. He's nonverbal,

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so he can't tell us if anything happened to him,
So it's a scary thing.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
You know.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
It's as weird because they recorded. The teachers recorded this anyway,
Angel said dozens of families with nonverbal children reached out
to them when the incident became public. It's nice to
have that kind of portry support, she said. The Hodges
parents are advocating for legislative changes to require cameras in
special needs classrooms. I'll tell you what, how about just

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requiring cameras in all classrooms? I brought that up many times.
Accord of the High Administrative Code three three seven, recording
in classrooms isn't permitted unless permission is granted and students
are notified, meaning it can vary from classroom and classroom.
Hodges are hoping parents will help him change the law.
So they're writing letters to Governor Mike Dwaine asking him

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to support making cameras permanent in special needs classrooms. And
if you want to advocate for making cameras permanent in
all classrooms, feel free to argue for that as well.
I would be in support of that argument. Stack is
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Two nine fifty five KRC, I never thought it.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Must be five forty on a Friday. Of course we do.
That's because Joss Direktor is executive producer of the program
and he loves Primus, his ace riff fix. As we
celebrate the fact that it's Friday enough in and of
itself for celebration, and as we segue into the stack

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is stupid. Yeah, another actually very attractive looking twenty six
year old teacher having sex with a student and caught
for it. This one has an interesting twist to it,
So we was a twenty six year old what they
described as abusive teacher admitted a charge of having sex
with a sixteen year old student. Reportedly, she wore revealing
clothing and also left scratch marks on the student's body

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after their sexual encounters. US came to light in December
when Hailey Clifton Carmack was accused of having sexual contact
with the students. She fled to her family home in
Texas on December twenty third, arrested January fifth after being
charged with statutory rape in the second degree, sexual contact
with student, child molestation, and endangering the welfare of child charges.

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She initially denied the allegations, but later admitted to them.
Plea deal was signed. Charges were dropped to felony sexual
contact with the students. Crimes apparently took place over a
one month period. Reportedly, the teacher was earlier warned by
the school this was her first teaching job too for
being in there work it's too close with students. A

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part of the crimes took place on the school premises,
and the sixteen year old's classmates acted as lookouts during
their physical intimacy, which you know, every time you think
about that you're having sex with the student, that student's
going to tell the entire world what happened. In this
particular case, they had lookouts posted outside, there were students.

(27:26):
How epic level dumb can you possibly be? But the
twist on this one, apparently the victim's father is now
facing phony charges for knowing about his son having sex
with the twenty six year old teacher and condoning it.
Good job, son, she's hot. Cord to the prosecutors, he

(27:48):
knew of the relationship with the minor child and the
twenty six year old teacher, and instead of reporting the information,
he continued to cover for them and allowed the relationship
to continue. And they said, in their words, even allowed
this teacher to come over to the house and see
the victim while dad was there. You think he was

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living vicariously through his sixteen year old son. Joe, Is
that what that's all about. I used to accuse my
dad of that living vicariously through me. Oh, anyway, we
had a good relationship, Dad and me. We have a
woman rested after walking naked through a subdivision, Cowta County

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Sheriff's Office reporting on this on September two. Wti's responded
to the multiple nine one one calls about quarter to
seven in the evening reporting a nude woman walking in
the Woodstream subdivision. Witnesses said the woman, later identified as
Amy Lynne's Sides, was seen walking towards Sullivan Road. One
of the responding officers flagged down by a motorists, who
directed into the intersection of Fieldstone Lane and Fieldstone Way,

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where her bra and shorts were found lying on the road.
Searching the area, nine on one, dispatchers received additional reports
of this naked woman walking on a different road. Deputies
located her walking on the shoulder of the road, wearing
only socks, about nine tenths of a mile from where
her clothing had been found. She told deputies she had

(29:15):
been walking dude because she was angry. According to the
incident report, she initially refused to provide her identification, but
complied after learning another deputy was on the way with
a fingerprint scanner. Background checks showed that she had an
active warrant from Spalding Counting for failure to appear. One
question about drug use, she reportedly admitted to using methamphetamine
in the past, but was uncertain about the exact time

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of her last use, estimating it was sometime in January.
Spalding County Sheriff's I was confirmed the warrant request to
hold sides and she was taken into custody, handcuffed, and
taken to the Cohededa County Jail, facing public in decency
charges and being held on an outstanding warrant. Idiots doing
idiot things because they're idiots, hold your fire on that.

(29:59):
We go to South Brunswick, New Jersey, where police say
they are searching for a man who accosted at least
six women while he was naked. Thority say the concern
because why are you doing that? He's getting more brazen
and aggressive. The man most recently targeted someone in broad
daylight about four pm. All the attacks have happened at
the same apartment complex over the past four months. Confrontations

(30:21):
have happened at the Royal Oaks apartment complex and adjacent trail.
In previous incidents, he approached women between eleven PM and
two thirty in the morning near a walking path behind
the complex. Residents of the complex say they've seen the
same man in the past. Ring video capturem in front
of someone's apartment door five ten six to six feet tall,
medium build, long dreadlocks. Official think he could be other

(30:44):
unreported incidents, or he could be responsible for unreported incidents
and working developed leads. All the incidents have taken place
in this one area. Residents being warned to be able
to look out because police say people seem to hesitate
to call when they see the naked guy. I would
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You hear Fiveoin fifty, Hey, I think you about kerse
De talk station. Very happy Friday, of course, it being Friday,
attack of stupid filled with a variety of stories about
naked people. Thank you, Joe Strecker. We'll go to Madison, Alabama,
where police are attempting to discover the identity identity of

(32:17):
a nude guy who law enforcement officers say attempted to
steal one of their patrol cars. Happened yesterday afternoon, netwhe
why are you doing that? After a string of incidents
along a busy highway about one thirty five in the afternoon,
police from Madison and Huntsville respond to multiple nine to
one one calls in the area of Alabama seventy two West.

(32:41):
Calls from Medicine, Bowling Center, Burger King, Walmart, Mister Carwash
reported a nude guy trying to enter people's vehicles, breaking windows,
assaulting people. Callers also said the man was possibly dragged
by one of the vehicles after trying to get into
it one was occupied. Police shot up and see made
contact with a man. According to the police, the unidentified
guy attempted to enter and then steal an officer's patrol car.

(33:04):
The officer used force to detain the many I bet
he did. Huntsville police investigating alleged crimes that occurred prior
to the officer the officers showing up. They arrested the
man for attempted theft of police vehicle and other alleged
public order crimes. Taken to the Huntsville Hospital for a
medical treatment and will be or is probably already in jail.
They said he would be jailed upon release and alleged

(33:30):
krthy thought he got away from the police. He didn't.
He was ultimately found inside a garbage can naked. You
knew that was coming. The naked guy took off running
after deputy's he stopped his what they described as suspicious vehicle.
This in Frederickson, Washington. Jumped multiple fences before Pierce County
Sheriff's Department debuties lost sight of him, and that's when

(33:51):
they brought in their canine Bronco to London assist by
Buddy camer Footage shows the large black dog on a hardness,
barking fiercely, leading deputies to a blue trash can in
somebody's backyard. Deputy lifted the lid slightly revealing the suspect inside.
Deputy can be heard saying on camera, Hey, dude, come

(34:12):
out of there right now, or you're going to get
bit by a dog. Dog continued barking. Suspect stuck both
of his hands out of the garbage can with the
lid still covering his head. While deputies were yelling hands up,
hands up, stand up, and turn around. He did merging
with his back to the deputies as they ordered him

(34:33):
to put his hands behind his back. One deputy, don't
worry about the dog man taking it too custody, they say,
without insists. Suspect continuously tried to evade law enforcement until
he came eye to eye with Bronco quote only wearing
a birthday suit. He finally made a good decision and

(34:54):
surrendered to our deputies. According to police, man had seven
several felony warrants out for him, and he was known
to have firearms. During the estrange encounter, deputy had to
run the license plate of the vehicle recognize the owner
as the passenger of a Ford F five point fifty
truck that had been stolen ten days earlier. This is
how they ultimately encountered this guy. The man's four year

(35:15):
old child got out of the vehicle was taken to
safety by the deputies, but the suspect and his girlfriend
didn't cooperate. As a tradition and just read this, deputies
fired a hole in the rear window of the vehicle
using a forty millimeter less lethal round, prompting the woman
to say she was getting dressed at that moment. That's

(35:39):
when the man fled and then ultimately hid in the
trash can where he was ultimately caught forty millimeter leslieth
a round. What what the hell that was anyway? Suspect
that identified as Jacob Matthew Patterson facing charges including a
lawful possession of stolen vehicle, reckless endangerment, resisting arrest, attempting

(35:59):
to elude. He's unlawful imprisonment, property damage, and driving with
a suspended or revoked license. Theo nothing by charge. Nothing
about charges of of nudity in public anyway, it will
be a throwaway at yo. Booked into the Pierce County Jail,
bail set at three hundred thousand dollars and in response,

(36:26):
Joe said he did he kill somebody, No, that would
only be in Hamilton County Joe, he would get a
bog like that here he probably would have been let go,
maybe with an ankle monitor in a response to the
why are you doing that question? It was not immediately
known why he was naked. Five fifty five fifty five
kc Detalk station. I have a response in the Bernie

(36:48):
Mourno camp about the attack. Ad successfully scored a win
on getting that one that I will let you know
about coming up. Got a whole lot more to talk
about before we get the Tech Friend with Dave Hatter
at six thirty. I sure hope you can stick around.

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If do you have KRCDD talk station by Thomas here,
wishing you are very happy Friday, going into a three
day weekend. Kevin Gordon covering for me on Monday, and
Joe Strucker doesn't care who's covering for him on Monday.
Do you know if they ever found anybody? Joe just
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Sean and Sean McMahon. Okay, good for you Sean and
uh Kevin Gordon on Monday, and I'll be back on Tuesday.
Feel free to call five on three seven four nine
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And there's an honor flight next Tuesday, get the details.
At seven forty five, two hours now, Bill O'Reilly returns
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for the creating the whole concept of empower you. Wonderful
opportunities to learn and something else I learned, and I
mentioned quite a few times over this week that on
Tuesday I had the benefit in the pleasure of joining

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the Northeast Republican Women Meeting. Great organization, that one. If
you are in the northeast region of the county or
the area, you might really want to consider joining that organization.
Outstanding heavy hitters in Republican politics, but a lot of them,
of course, Bernie moreno supporters as I am, and was
an out loud conversation about you know, where's Bernie. We

(39:24):
need more Endeavorence out what's going on. We're launching the
ads are going to be running you're going to see
so much of Bernie Marina you're gonna get sick of
them by the time November rolls around. So everything's like, great, great, great,
we need to get Bernie elected. And so the question
came up, well, what about that attack ed. There's one
attack ad which accuses Bernie Moreno of him mistreating his employees.
You may have seen it, so I think it's one

(39:45):
of the political action committees that's trying to get Shared
Brown reelected. I don't think it's an I approved this
message direct from the Shared Brown Camp campaign message. But
even if it is, it doesn't matter. The message makes
Bernie Arena it sound really bad, like he mistreated his
employees or he stole from them or something. So they said,
I haven't seen any explanation for that. Nobody in the

(40:06):
room knew what the explanation was. And since that's the
one message that actually sort of you know that, people
recall like, wow, that's an attack head that might stick.
I might put Bernie Marino on bad light. He's like,
what's the response to the question. Someone said something along
the lines, well, yeah, he addressed that when one of
his functions, one of his town halls or his meetings

(40:28):
and just said it's a bunch of nonsense, and in essence,
go ahead and just look at the court pleetings and
you'll see exactly why it's a nonsensical message, to which
I said, well you can't. I mean, people don't even
know what issue one is in Ohio. Oh no, by
the way, do you expect them to on their own

(40:49):
go look up some court website and read pleetings. I said,
what's the short answer, give us the SoundBite or something.
And so one of the women there is connected very
heavily with the Marino Camp and I certainly appreciate you,
Laurie Goodwin, for getting in touch with them and providing
me with the response so I can provide it to
you my listeners. Bernie owned fifteen automobile dealerships, one of

(41:13):
them was in Massachusetts. Federal law then and now exempts
commissioned salespeople from overtime, which is an interesting timing on
this since Donald Trump just came out yesterday and said
he wants to make your overtime hours tax free. But
back to the point, Marino Camp made it exempts commissioned
salespeople from overtime in twenty nineteen, after Bernie sold that

(41:36):
Massachusetts dealership, the Massachusets Massachusetts Supreme Court, in contradiction to
federal law, changed the law and concluded that overtime portion
of commissioned salespeople could not be deducted from the monthly bonus.
There were two out of the multitude of salespeople that
worked at that dealership that sued. They didn't punch in

(41:59):
or out. Their paychecks said forty hours worked and the
employee manual did not allow overtime without written permission. Fair enough.
Despite all that, a Boston jerry determined the exact amount
of overtime they allegedly worked for over three and a
half years, and awarded them a few thousand dollars in compensation.

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The rest of the judgment was attorney fees. That's it. So, yes,
that is a simple explanation, and I can understand why
it's a little difficult to you know, package all that
into a quick SoundBite. It's nonsense. But because it's an
important election year and Sharon Brown's going to do everything
you can to deceive the public, at least we got
the answer to that question. So there you go. Five three, seven,

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four nine fifty five hundred eight hundred eighty two to
three talk found FI fifty on AHT ANDG phone, and
I thought this was rather an interesting article. I liked
it because it is yet another reflection of the absolute
incompetence of government. And well, they're reckless spending our labor
in the form of our tax dollars. And because it's

(43:06):
Tech Friday, so we bring all these things together. IRS
has been spending the last decade, a last decade making
an upgrade to its individual master file. And that master
file apparently is the digital silo in which more than

(43:27):
one hundred and fifty four million tax files are held,
and they have to keep it up up to date.
And they had been trying to upgrade the system now
for a long time, more than a decade, so they
can help enable speedy, inaccurate refunds. They were supposed to
launch this new system next year. They just announced, I

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guess it was yesterday the day before anyway, this week,
that it was going to be delayed another year. Now
here's where the tech part comes in, and here's where
the efficiency and effectiveness of our federal guest comes in.
And how much money do we give the IRS every year?
I know, way too much? Thank you, Joe Strecker. The
database was written in the nineteen sixties by IBM and engineers.

(44:15):
The journal points out run around the time that they
were working on the Apollo program, and it's noted and
this is where I found it. I actually laughed. The
system runs on what they described as a nearly extinct
computer language, and I do recall this computer language. Anybody
out there remember Cobal Joe Strecker at an FCC non

(44:36):
compliant reaction to that. I remember one of my college
classmates walking around with a book that had Cobal off
the front of it. Anyway, that was back in the
very early eighties. Anyway, Cobal is not used anymore, and
maintaining it requires bespoke service. So, in other words, the IRS,

(44:56):
with this Cobyl language program, is really the only entity
on the planet that's still using it. By twenty eighteen,
the IRS had only seventeen remaining developers that were still
considered experts on the system. I guess it's because they
all died. That's the system they're still using. The Agency

(45:19):
sought and failed to overhaul or replace the database since
the nineteen eighties. It's spent four billion dollars over fourteen
years to devise upgrades. And here's the fun part, folks,
But it canceled that effort in two thousand without receiving
expected benefits. According to the Government Accountability Office, fourteen years

(45:44):
four billion dollars to upgrade a system as old as this,
and they pulled the plug on that entire effort. The
IRS spending on operating and maintaining this system has risen
thirty five percent in the past four years. Ready, folks,
two point seven billion dollars last year from two billion

(46:06):
dollars in twenty nineteen. This is an annual expenditure. Accord
to the reporting, The cost will likely continue to increase
until the majority of the legacy systems are decommissioned. That's
from a report last month by the agency's inspector General.
Every year major upgrades are pushback, and that adds a

(46:27):
large sum to the final tab. Kicking the can always
costs a lot more. Congress gave the agency billions and
billions of extra dollars in the Inflation Reduction Act to
fund a speedy database overhaul. Now, remember that's Inflation Reduction Act.
That was a fairly recent bill. This is the reality
what we're doing. Remember I just pointed out fourteen billion

(46:48):
dollars was spent on a prior effort to upgrade it,
or four billion, and that prior effort upgrade that they
pulled the plug on, so more money goes to the irs,
to the Inflation Reduction Act, and they're still working on
overhauling it. Since twenty twenty two, it has spent one
point three billion dollars beyond its ordinary budget to modernize
its business systems, and you and I are paying for

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I'm looking forward to finding out what the hell digital
death cleaning is. Anyway, that'll be what Dave had or

(49:16):
coming to the next In other tech related news, It
is a Friday. It is moving away from the overwhelming
immigration problems we're having this country. But again, I'm going
back to real quickly. To appointed me. In the last hour,
I'm now giving credit for Donald Trump for doing something
that I was criticizing him for during the debate, which
is mentioning that the Haitian immigrants in Springfield were eating

(49:37):
the dogs and cats. Now, I still don't know whether
it's sure or not, and I accuse it of being
some sort of viral made up thing. But what did
it do. It's the one thing everybody remembers from the debate.
The left is screaming at him for even mention for
lying the American people that Haitians are not eating. There's
been no credible reports of anybody eating anyone's pets. But
they're talking about it. And by talking about it, everybody's

(50:00):
waking up to the fact that a small town of
sixty thousand people has now got a twenty thousand additional
Haitians living there that they weren't prepared for. And lo
and behold, everybody else is raising their hand. Well, wait
a second, it's not just Springfield, Ohio. What about us,
they said, I learned from the Apparently Lachland and Wyoming
neighborhoods are overwhelmed with migrants from Mauritania, of all places.

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And thanks to the folks that shot or that linked
the articles during that Facebook back and forth, because things
do fly beneath my radar. Hell, that Washington Post, of
all places, reported on that one. Anyhow, back over to
tech and Dave Adds alluded to this deep fake reality.
We've got a new one to worry about deep nude.

(50:46):
Some per program or created an application that uses this
weird software system that analyzes ten thousand plus and women
images of naked women. It's an algorithm. So what you
do is you feed the out of the program, this
deep nude program a photograph of a clothed person. Let's think, okay,

(51:09):
maybe your wife, your girlfriend, your daughter clothed. You put
it in the program, outcomes an artificial intelligence naked version
of that picture. Yeah, it does not work with men.
It only works with women. Like I said, this perv

(51:32):
created it. Caitlin Bowden, former CEO of Revenge Porn activism organization.
There is, actually there is one. It's called Badass. Speaking
with Motherboard, which reported on this, said it is absolutely terrifying.
Now anyone could find themselves in the victim of revenge
porn without ever having taken a nude photo. This text
should not be available to the public. The genies out

(51:52):
of the bottle on this stuff, folks. Motherboard tried it.
They've worked. They stuck a whole bunch of different photographs
in it. The app itself is free, but it's got
a watermark over any image it creates, so you know
it's been a fake image created. If you pay fifty
bucks for the full version of it, it makes the image,
and some of them quite successful. They say, the closer

(52:15):
to a woman in a bathing suit than rather fully clothed,
the more likely it is it's going to come out
looking like a real genuine image of your naked daughter,
for example. So it says fake on the created image
upper left corner, big words fake. But as the article

(52:37):
on Motherboard pointed out, all you need is photoshop and
you can remove the stamp fake from the image and
there you have a naked image that never really truly happened,
but can look very realistic depending on how you make it.
So welcome to modern technology. It's frightening stuff, and it
only keeps getting worse and worse and worse every day.
And I assure you there's going to be some point

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Couple around six thirty fifty five KRCD talk station. I'm
very happy Friday, and even extra happy because this is
the time of the week you get to talk to
tech Friday's Dave Hatter. Interest it is this company can
find on line at interest it dot com. And based
on this first story, you need interest it to deal
with your business computer issues and avoid problems like ransomware attacks.
Welcome back, Dave Hatter, It's always great to have you

(54:44):
on the program, my friend.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
Always my pleasure to be here, Brian, Happy Friday.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
It looks like the FBI and the Cybersecurity Infrastructure Security
Agency are well issuing strong warnings about ransom Hub.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
Yeah, so ransomware continues to be a problem, Brian. And
it's interesting. I don't think I mentioned this to you recently,
but I know at least one company here in Cincinnati.
I can't guarantee you they went out of business as
a result of ransomware, but I knew they had a
very substantial ransomware attack that encrypted all of their data.
And I know they're out of business now, So I

(55:20):
can't tell you for sure, you know one led to
the other. But yeah, this continues to be a problem.
So you've got the FBI and says of warning about ransomware,
and just as a quick reminder for folks. So ransom
hub is just you know, one one of many ransomware
gangs out there doing this sort of thing. Ransomware is essentially,

(55:40):
you know, kind of fits into the malware virus category
of software, whether you click a link to download it,
or they find some weakness in your system. And deploy
it themselves once it gets in there. Its goal is
to encrypt as much data as possible, which essentially makes
the systems that have been encrypted unusable. And then they say,
you know, if you want to be able to use

(56:01):
your systems get your data back, you have to pay ransom.
But the other angle, which has often overlooked in these
stories is they will also, now while your data is
being encrypted, steal the data. So when you say, hey,
you know what, I talked to Dave Hatter over at
Intrust or someone else that provides these services, and we've
put some high end data recovery, backup, disaster recovery, business

(56:26):
continuity type systems in place where you can wipe your
encrypted systems and restore your data, they say that's nice,
but if you still don't want to pay the ransom
because you're able to operate, then we'll just start leaking
your data on the internet. And you know, it gives
them that extra leverage. So it's not just that your
systems are down. They've taken as much data as they

(56:47):
can get. Could be trade secrets, could be sensitive customer data,
could be anything anything they can get their hands on
right right, because it gives them that extra leverage to
convince you to want to pay the ransom. I mean,
it's pretty devious, but that's the way these guys operate,
you know. I have to always remind people when folks say, well,
I'm too small, this would never happen to me. They
just want your money. They want your money. Now they

(57:09):
have different mechanisms and avenues to take to try to
get to your money. But if your entire business is
down and they have all your sensitive data, you know,
you are potentially highly incentivized to want to pay to
get back in business and to keep that data from
leaking on the internet.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
So in terms of this particular attack or these groups
of attack from this ransom hub group, is it different
in any sense of how it ends up infecting your
computer systems?

Speaker 3 (57:35):
I mean?

Speaker 1 (57:35):
Or is it simply someone clicked on the wrong link
that we've talked about so many times over the years.

Speaker 3 (57:40):
Well, that's a big part of it, right, You get
a phishing email, you click a link, it downloads some
software in the background.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
I've got a story for you on that one too.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
Or or again, maybe your systems aren't patched, maybe you
don't have a firewall, maybe there's a lot of different security.
You know, we like to talk in the industry about
what's known as defense and depthultiple layers of security. So
if the bad guys get through one layer, hopefully the
next layer stops them. Think about like a medieval castle,
right with a mood and a gate and guards and
all that. You know, it could be that a system

(58:10):
wasn't patched. It could be that, you know, you're just
missing some something and they found a way around it
and then they just deploy it on their own. You know,
the hackers love to hit on long weekends because you know,
on a Friday night before a long weekend, people are
going to be out, they're not paying attention. It gives
them the maximum amount of time to inflict the maximum
amount of damage. You come back on a Tuesday, everything's encrypted,

(58:33):
your systems are down, and hopefully, you know, hopefully at
that point you've got some resiliency built into your environment.
You've got some kind of business continuity plan and systems
where you can uh restore your data quickly and go
back to work again. That doesn't get you around the
issue of they have your data, but at least you're
not down right.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
Got it so could let me do real quick here
because one of the guess you know me, I've told
you million times I don't open anything I get email.
I got a source because you've you've convinced me that
you never click on any any attachments. So people sending
me attachments, I'm sorry, in only a rare few cases,
michn open one. So I get an email the other
day and it was a never seen I don't know

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the email person. The address didn't make any sense, I mean,
didn't come from anybody I was aware of. But there
was a PDF, or at least what looked like a
PDF attachment to it, and it was a threatening email.
You better open this the document and find out or
you're going to end up in big trouble. And you
could read, you know, a few lines of sentences on
the little PDF image, so like you got an indication

(59:35):
of what was in it. And they said they had
video of me watching porn, you know, obviously they suggesting
that I don't know what the document contained in it.
But and I'm laughing at myself because no they don't.
None of my computers have the cameras operable on them,
and they're all covered up. So I knew it was
a bunch of crap right then. I was staying in
the fact that I knew that I wasn't over any
whatever porn sites are accused me of. But I saw that,

(59:57):
and you know what, this is something for Dave Hatter,
because I bet if I clicked on on that my
system would be infected. Can you get infected by opening
up a PDF file what appears to be a PDF file?

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
There, Dave, you could potentially there you go, so perfect example,
Brian of the types of social engineering. You know, they're
they're constantly coming up with a new tactics like that,
and usually it's, you know, whatever you get, whether it's
a link to a document or some document than links
to something else, or some infected document in its own right.

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You know, they're typically trying to convince you some there's
some catastrophe that it waits if you don't act immediately,
and you know that's how they that's how they get
you so right, I know, we'll run out of time.
The three things the FBI says you should do install updates,
These are things we talk about all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
They mentioned use fish resistant multifacture authentication. That's just a
little bit higher level educate users. They go on later
in this article to talk about password management as well.
You know, use a password manager. There's nothing you can
do that will make you absolutely impervious to this kind
of thing. But there's a lot of things you can do,
many of which are relatively low costs, if not free,

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difficult target. And if you avoid these problems.

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Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
Well? I probably could if I had to, Ryan, but
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I can take it that anyway. What is death cleaning?

Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
Yeah, so this is an interesting idea. Apparently it's a
Swedish concept where people in Sweden will try to declutter
their lives before they pass away so they don't leave
behind mess for their errors.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
And you know, I can tell you from personal experience,
like with my grandparents and so forth, having to clean
out their stuff. You know, it's already a stressful time.
Now you've got to figure out what with all this
stuff and documents and so forth. So what hit for
me with this idea was I saw a Wall Street
Journal article on taking this to the next step for
your digital life. Obviously, as we've discussed all the time Brian,

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people spend more time online than ever before. Everything's increasingly digital.
And I actually had a recent experience with one of
my best friends whose stepfather passed away and they didn't
have any of the passwords to any of his stuff,
so then they had a very hard time you know,
bank accounts to me taking all the different things you
need and hopefully not just passwords, but multi factor authentication

(01:04:45):
for the especially this sensitive data. Right, good point, and
if when someone suddenly passes away, and you don't only
have the credentials for these accounts, but maybe don't even
know what they all are. You're now adding a whole
bunch of extra stress and the it's already obviously as
stressful and unhappy time for folks. So I think this

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is a really important concept because it really just boils
down to this morbid and you know, unappealing as it is,
probably to think about your own demise, to start thinking about, okay,
like if I were to pass away tomorrow, what do
I have? What do people need to know? And I
mean this is you know, more innocuous stuff like photos,
all the way up to begin bank accounts. I mean,

(01:05:26):
if someone suddenly passes away, will their spouse even know
how to pay the bills? Do they know how to
get to the money? Yeah? I mean thinking of the
potential problems this could create, especially if you're in a
relationship where one person kind of handles all this stuff
and the other person probably doesn't have much insight into it.
So I think it's an important concept. I think it's
only going to get more important as more things become

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digital and more people rely on all of this technology.
And again, it's not just to create less stress during
an emotional and stressful time, but also to make sure
that you don't have to get attorneys involved and you know,
go through all kinds of pain to get access to
your assets. The other benefit of it in the long run, too,

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is by knowing what's out there, you know, having some
kind of good inventory of it. Once a person passes away,
in many cases, you know their information will be used
for identity theft because there's no one paying attention to
it anymore. So there's you know, a variety of different
reasons why you might want to take this on, but
it really boils down to, you know, you got to
start out with some kind of inventory, right, I need

(01:06:31):
to know what's out there? What are the email accounts? Email?
Probably other than you know, purely financial accounts is the
place to start because you know, in many cases, if
you do need to reset a password or something, it's
going to go to the email address on file. So
what email addresses do you have? You know, banks, health,
insurance and financial information anything like that. Yeah, you know,

(01:06:53):
cloud storage, what subscriptions.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
Clicks and I mean you've got an Amazon account. I
mean there's just so many many places where you have
you know, a log in and a password, and maybe
even a subscription that your spouse might even not even
know about.

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
Yeah exactly, and you know that you might keep paying
for if someone doesn't know about that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
Right, well, hopefully someone will cancel all my credit cards
if I drop dead tomorrow. I would like to think
that's one of the first orders of business you would have.
You would hope.

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
But if it's set up to like autopad of a
bank account or something, you might keep paying for Netflix
for a long time without even really realizing it. So again,
the first step is make an inventory. Right now, I'm
going to argue that in general, one of the easiest
best ways to do this because it does double duty
is anything that has an account associated with it and

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requires credentials. Put that in a password manager. So your
password manager becomes your secure vault with your inventory of
all of your accounts, allows you to create and manage strong,
unique passwords for all your accounts, so you get the
added benefit of you now have a strong password. You
can have one master password and MFA turned on that

(01:08:06):
password manager like I do, and in my safe in
the basement on a piece of paper, my wife knows
where to look for it it's the master password pass word. Yeah, yeah,
it's actually just password. Password one was too inconvenient, Bright,
I couldn't pint that extra character. Yeah, she exactly. She

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can go down unlocked to say, get that piece of
paper out, open my password manager, and everything that you
know she would need to get into is right there.
So I have the benefit of using the password manager
every day anyway, I use one password that would be
my recommendation, but there are plenty of other good ones
out there. It's essentially an inventory as well. And then
you know, the other advice that they give is you know,

(01:08:48):
in general, and this is just good advice too because
of digital foot printing and you know, all the informations collected.
Eliminate accounts you don't need, get rid of apps you
don't need, right, reduce that footprint. And then they throw
out an idea, and this is interesting from a legal perspective,
you might have some other insight into this. Have a
digital executor, right as you would have an executor for

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your physical estate. Have a digital executor. Now maybe it's
the same person, if it's a person that's a little
more savvy with these things, you know, and then ultimately
document all this stuff, Like I say, I have this
stuff in my safe, especially the password for the password manager,
so that you know if, if, and when something happens,
because it will eventually, right, you know, my wife knows

(01:09:33):
where to go to get the information she would need
to be able to try to navigate all of this stuff.

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There you go. Great password that'll let the Chinese hackers
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point to your Dave Hadda, what's the story you know?

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
Yeah, Well, unfortunately, Brian, it's the same old story. Washington
Post had a headline sinceetic government hackers penetrate US Internet
providers to spy and if you spend any time paying
any attention whatsoever to China and hacking, I mean it's
just everywhere all the time. Yeah, you got every government
agency warrying about Chinese hacker infiltration. And you know, in

(01:11:45):
some cases they're trying to steal trade secrets, in some
cases they're trying to steal military secrets. I don't think
money is their prime motivation like the non nation state
hackers typically, although maybe it is. But you know, the
big warning and the thing that I'm the most concerned
and we've talked about many, many times as critical infrastructure.

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
You know, that's what's exactly what was in the back
of my mind. It would just flip a switch and
the electricity goes out, and they won the war basically.

Speaker 3 (01:12:10):
Yeah, the FBI has sixteen critical infrastructure sectors. It's you know,
the common stuff you think of like water and electrical grid,
but it's also things like chemical plants. And I like
to remind folks, I'm old enough to remember the Beau
Paul disaster and people were killed by a chemical leak.
And if hackers could break into a chemical plant and

(01:12:32):
cause the release of a deadly gas like that, and
that'd be a real problem. Union car Now, Brian, imagine
at scale if coordinated hacking through Internet service providers, which
is what this article is about, hacker, Chinese hackers basically
getting you know, a foothold in Internet service providers. And
again in Layman's terms, these are just the companies, the

(01:12:54):
verizons of the world, the cox communications, the spectrums of
the world that give us access to the end Internet, right,
I mean even the big companies like Microsoft go through
some kind of Internet service providers somewhere. Right, So when
you think about it, the idea that they would hack
into these Internet service providers where they would have access
to sensitive data of the companies that use these providers,

(01:13:17):
including critical infrastructure, it's pretty scary. And you know, so
here's a direct quote. It's business as usual now for China.
But that but that is dramatically stepped up from where
it used to be. It's an order of magnitude worse,
said Brandon Wales, who until this month was the executive
director of Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency AKASS. Here's a

(01:13:41):
quote from an FBI agent. This is privileged, high level
connectivity to interesting customers. Again could include critical infrastructure, and
the idea that we're basically constantly under attack by these
military grade hackers. Now again, I'm only I can only
tell you what I know from what's been published. But
I but if I recall correctly, the FBI director said

(01:14:03):
that they thought that China had like a fifty to
one advantage in terms of people trained in China. You know,
nation state military type people who are hacking on behalf
of the People's Republic of China. And you know, again,
if they can get into something like an ISP, that
can eventually lead them into these critical infrastructure organizations or

(01:14:29):
businesses who they want to steal their trade secrets. You know,
one of the things I always try to point out
to people as well is if you're a nation state
like China, do you want to invest billions of dollars
developing a new drug or a new military technology or
do you just want to steal the American companies that
invested all that time and money. I mean, looked at
the latest Chinese aircraft. Isn't it suspicious how they look

(01:14:51):
exactly like ours? Remark the coincidence? No, So, you know,
you as an individual, there's not a whole a lot
you can do about this other than be aware, pressure
your legislators to take this seriously and make investments in
things like the Ohio Cyber Collaboration Committee. You know, which

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Ohio has got a great program for the state of Ohio.
And then it's to do the things you can do
as an individual to protect your accounts so that you
don't become the whole that they eventually exploit at the
company you work for. So, you know, I like to
try to remind people we're all in this together when
it comes to cybersecurity, and if everyone would work towards

(01:15:32):
understanding the risks, not everyone has to be a nerd
like me. It's not what I'm saying, but understanding the
risk and then you know, taking the steps they can
take us a password manager, strong unique passwords, MFA patch
your software. You know, we could go a long way
towards making this much much more difficult for the bad guys.
But when you back to your original point, when you

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think about the fact that you have nation state actors China, Russia, Iran,
North Korea and others out there. But those are the
big four in China in particular, I mean, they have
a lot more assets and resources than the rest of
these folks. They're constantly trying to hack into American organizations
across the board. It's pretty disturbing, and you know, I
don't want to be the doomsday guy here. But to

(01:16:16):
your point, Brian, if you get the right things planted,
and then you decide today's today, because today's today you
want to invade Taiwan, or today's today you don't like
something the US did or whatever. Yeah, it would be
chaos rather quickly. If the power goes out. It's not
too long after that. There's no way to pump the water, right.

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
I know. I've thought long and hard about the realities
of that, my friend, and I wish our government did
everything humanly possible to protect our electrical infrastructure. For nothing else.
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Thanks for what you do. Have a great week, my friend.
We'll talk again next Friday, six fifty seven. We'll talk
FC since he gonna demolish historic beer tunnels for a
stadium expansion. Don Heinrich Toltzman has a few words on
that subject, plus some others more beer ons on the

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plate at seven thirty with Andy Plugs Dad one of
the new Hearth, one of the owners of Hearth Brewery.
It's a new brewery, it's open and Otter flight tri
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Speaker 9 (01:17:58):
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Speaker 1 (01:18:03):
You feeling Donk going well, Sir. I appreciate you being
on the program, and I actually I think I anticipate
where you are on this particular subject matter. The first
one we're going to talk about is FC Cincinnati demolishing
those historic beer beer tunnels for their three hundred million
dollar expansion project. Aren't these protected historic relics they're done well.

Speaker 9 (01:18:24):
You know, I might protest my comments by saying, and
we've been talking recently together. We have a great brewing
heritage here and I've written a lot about German heritage
and the brewing heritage. We historically were a major beer
brewing center, along with Saint Louis and Milwaukee. And it's

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not surprising that in the greater Cincinnati area we have
about fifty breweries that have come about and they're brewing
all kinds of great october Fest beer.

Speaker 1 (01:18:58):
Oh yeah, and.

Speaker 9 (01:19:00):
I hope we can get together at one of these
festivals we have. Octoberfest Cincinnati is coming up in a week,
the biggest one outside of Munich. And one thing that
should be noted with all these great breweries we had here,
especially before Prohibition, they built some wonderful and beautiful breweries.

(01:19:21):
They look like castles. Unfortunately, they've all been demolished. The
moor Line Brewery and over the Rhine near Filly Market,
the Hawke Brewery in the West End, the Wadoe Brewery
in Newport, they've all been demolished, whereas another you know,
in other cities in places. Fortunately, some of these have

(01:19:44):
been repurposed. But we've lost some great ones here in
our area, unfortunately maybe landmarks. Now recently, as you referenced,
it was reported that FC Cincinnati would demolish the Lagger
beer tunnels in what was the old Lion Brewery. It's

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on the southwest corner of the Central Parkway and Liberty Street.
And I should say when you talk about lager beer,
lagger was a German is a German word for to
store and age. And when Germans came here, all they
found was a top fermented beer called ale. It's called

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the common beer. And they wanted a bottom fermented beer
that was stored and aged, leave it usually for about
a month. And more so, they had they had have
Logger beer cellars tunnels underground where they could store an
age the beer. Now the Lion Brewery which was built

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in eighteen sixty six by the vendors Milhauser Brewing Company,
it was one of the largest brewing companies in our area,
second only to the more Line Brewery. Later on, prohibition,
of course, put a.

Speaker 2 (01:21:07):
Lot of these breweries out.

Speaker 9 (01:21:08):
Of business, but it was re used, most recently by
Burger Brewing, but then that closed down and in nineteen
ninety three the main brewery building was demolishing. I'd like
to say something about that brewery because I'd written about
it in some of my books. It was a wonderful
example a brewery architecture. It was like a castle. It

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had round arches called Romanesque Revival architecture. And where Central
Parkway is now, it was the Miami Erie Canal, so
it was located right there along the canal. People like
to be on the canal because you could ship and
receive stuff. I mean, you know, that whole area was

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defined by the canal became known as the Rhine, and.

Speaker 10 (01:22:01):
A lot of breweries were of course and.

Speaker 9 (01:22:04):
Over the Rhine, but many were also in the West End,
such as the Hawk Brewery, which unfortunately it's a beautiful building,
was also torn down, and so the Lion. It was
called the Lion Brewery. And think about this, the storage

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tunnels it could store their thirty thousand barrels of beer. Whoa,
but enough for many Logger beer festivals, I would say,
But yeah, these these longer beer sellers, there were rock
lined vaults underground where they could store the beer. Now,

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the reports which have been in the media indicate that
these Louder tunnels were planned to become a restaurant or bar,
and there would be skylights leading down to a stairway
into space below where there there's be a bar or restaurant.

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And the reports that I read said this was supposed
to be a tribute to our brewing heritage, but now
plans have apparently changed, which ans to me like a
bait and switch game. Promise something and then change it.
The new reports indicate that the location of these stone

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vaults interfere with plans for a massive mixed use construction
near the stadium at the FC Cincinnati Stadium, and the
reports that they need to remove these vaults for the
construction there. And so I should also add that FC

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Cincinnati was responsible for the demolition of a church building
nearby that recently housed the Revelation Baptist Church and was
originally a German Lutheran church. So you know, there are
a lot of structures and buildings that have been demolished
in our area that are parts of part of the

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cultural heritage of our area. I know many people, for example,
they talk about the alb Theater downtown, and there's other buildings.
But once you demolish something, uh, it's gone.

Speaker 1 (01:24:33):
And these well these historic battles have been waged, you know,
over time, and you know a lot of historic homes.
We should preserve that. And then well who's going to
pay for it? And that's usually what it comes down to,
well who's going to pay for it? But this is
something that can exist on its own. It's there already.
I don't know what these vaults don't need maintenance and

(01:24:54):
upkeeper anything, do they They're just part of history in
the right there and just not being so out they
go and then goes the new buildings and infrastructure. But
I want to go back to the point you made
about this is the bait and switch. They had promised
to keep these vaults. That the original plan involved maintaining
and upholding the brewing tradition of the city.

Speaker 9 (01:25:17):
That's what I have read in the reports that the
reports were that the plans were to have a restaurant
and bar, that the red lighting and money was described
as monumental stairs leading down into that space. So there

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apparently were those kinds of plans. I don't know what
happened to them, but yeah, the recent plans looked like
they've been changed.

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
Now you know, the.

Speaker 9 (01:25:47):
Beautiful brewery building itself was demolished in nineteen ninety three,
and as a matter of fact, I wrote about that
in the Cincinnati Inquirer that time at the time about
how buildings were being uh torn down and demolished. So
what what is underground is just like the last remnants.

Speaker 1 (01:26:07):
Of the.

Speaker 9 (01:26:09):
Of that brewery and um.

Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
Surprise, they can't coexist.

Speaker 9 (01:26:15):
And that you know, the demolition can be undone, right.

Speaker 1 (01:26:20):
H Yeah, I mean said the case all the time
in terms of you know, in in ninety early nineties,
when they when they knocked down the historic building, was
there a discussion about preserving it and transforming into something
that people would would use like a restaurant or you know,
fill in the blank anything. Was there were their efforts
to save it or was just like yeah, one day
was there and the next day they knocked it down

(01:26:41):
and in favor of building something else.

Speaker 9 (01:26:44):
Well, the parts of the building, the brewery building were
used that weren't torn down. Part of it was used
for the Cincinnati Ballet Company. Uh So there were still
some parts of the building that were left, but the
main brew house was no longer there.

Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
But were there any efforts to keep it at the time,
there was there any fight because we have these historic
building fights all the time, Like you know, some win
and some lose, Some get knocked down, some are preserved.
I don't know what factors or criteria go into the
decision making. My question though, to you, Harry Toltzman, is
at the time before they knocked that building down, were

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there efforts to preserve it, Whether it was an argument
made to keep it or was it just no, it's
going and it's gone.

Speaker 9 (01:27:33):
I think the decision was made at that time to
tear it down because it hadn't been used as a
brewery by that time, from about twenty years. I think, so.

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
The decision then.

Speaker 9 (01:27:50):
Was made to demolish it rather than as far as
I can recall, there were no ideas or proposals to
preserve the building. So a lot of buildings were demolished.
But you know, I can understand that that if the

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plan changed now and they want to come up with
a new plan, I mean, it's understandable then it would
be very costly and maybe to go back to this
other idea of having an undernound restaurant and bar and
so on. But what I would say, and I might

(01:28:34):
want to mention too, the tomorrow I'm going to be
talking at the how House in the West End. I'm
going to be talking about John how a West End
bear baron.

Speaker 1 (01:28:45):
Well Don, I'll tell you what. I'll let you plug
that we come back is out of time and I
want to hear a little bit more about what you're
going to be speaking about in terms of the how House.
So let's bring her Toldtsman back for a couple more minutes.
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We have andy plogs that. On the next segment, the
owner of a brand new brewery talking about Dohn Toltman
here on the phone since I brew in traditional, live
and Well. He mentioned about fifty plus breweries right now
in operation, and Hearth Brewery is the newest one. So
we'll hear about that next. In the meantime, you mentioned
you're going to be at the John On how House tomorrow.
He is one of the beer barons you wrote about

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in your book Cincinnati Beer Barons in the Golden Age Brewery.

Speaker 9 (01:30:09):
He was one of the great brewers in our area.
He brewed a beer that was called a premium beer
and had a magnificent brewery that was in the West End.
Unfortunately that's now gone by how House is the residents
of the Hawk family is still there and it's maintained

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and owned by the Cincinnati Preservation Association. So I'm going
to be speaking there tomorrow at ten thirty. I may
talk about how and beer barons, and also I make
reference to these buildings that have been demolished. And one
thing I might mention, I understand that with the current

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plans in place, that they.

Speaker 1 (01:30:55):
Have to.

Speaker 9 (01:30:57):
Demolish what is left, what is the remnants of a
magnificent brewery, wipes out part of the heritage, the brewing heritage.
But I would say this, Okay, I can understand the rationale,
but why not then make a contribution to amend for

(01:31:20):
the loss of this part of the brewing heritage. And
I would say, could SC Cincinnati, for example, make a
contribution to the how House that would in some way
compensate for the loss of all the brewery buildings that
we've lost here and then people forget them. And I

(01:31:41):
appreciate we're getting new breweries, but we had a great
tradition here, So I would I would say this, and
I would appeal to the conscience of SC Cincinnati, that is,
if it has one to make a contribution for all
the Billings and the Lion Brewery in particular, that we

(01:32:01):
have lost in this church. I mentioned uh that I
don't think they should be forgotten and just swept away.
And the how John Howe was an important brewer. These
brewers gave back to the community. He for example, saved
the Cincinnati Zoo from bankruptcy when it was just about

(01:32:26):
going to the fold and close down. He introduced he
owned the Cincinnati Reds. He introduced the beer being served
at a Reds baseball game. So think about that, when
you go to a baseball game, we take for granted
you can get a beer. Well, at one time beer
was was not served at a baseball game. People were

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against a part of the Puritan belief So he pioneered that. So,
I mean what I'm talking about, what I've been trying
to record as well. Know we talked about many times
there are a lot of things in our heritage that
should of the Cincinnati area. They're important, and this is
why people come to our area because of our great beer.

(01:33:09):
We have here a great heritage, and if things get
lost in the course of time, some of them ought
to be remembered. And I think the Lion Brewery was
an important part of the architectural heritage of our area.

Speaker 1 (01:33:31):
Well, what time are you going to be at the
house house which is located for my listeners, it's eight
twelve Dayton Street, downtown Cincinnati, eight and it is a
beautiful Italianate home, so absolutely gorgeous historic home that's being preserved.
What time are you going to be there done?

Speaker 9 (01:33:44):
I'm going to be there at ten thirty. And I
should also mention we have some great brewing memorabilia collectors
and a good friend of mine, Carl Grows, will be
there and he'll have some interesting, beautiful pieces of last
where and some one that was produced by the how Brewery.

(01:34:05):
They're going to be on display there, so I hope
people interested in brewing heritage would come out. And I
would like to thank you too, Brian, for all you
do to help preserve interest and the heritage of our area.

Speaker 1 (01:34:23):
All in my mind, it all surrounds fun. Anytime I'm
hanging out with the Germans or these festivals and doing
anything with the Germans, it seems to be a festive
party like atmosphere. And mentioning the word again give you
to the kite, which always comes up, don Heinrich Toltzman,
always a pleasure to talk with, my friend. Good luck
with that speech tomorrow again the Howke House. It's located
at eight twelve Dayton Street. Just Drek will put the

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link air on the blog page fifty five care see
dot com. We'll talk again soon. I hope don have
a great day.

Speaker 9 (01:34:49):
Thanks so much. Won't keep in touch.

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Heinrich Toltzman about the old days of the brewing in Cincinnati.
Our brewing tradition continues. Welcome to the fifty five KRC
morning Sir Andy Plodgston and Greg Otis, who are responsible
for the newest brewery in town, Hearth Brewery. Welcome to
the program. Fellas, is awesome to have you on today.

Speaker 10 (01:37:50):
Hey, good morning, Brian, thanks for having us on long Brian, thank.

Speaker 1 (01:37:52):
You my pleasure. Uh this I know some people who
brewed their own beer. As a matter of fact, I
have a relative from my on my wife's side of
the family that makes his own beer. He does a
really nice job, but it's in small bats is you know,
you do it in your basement and you bother yourself.
My understanding is is that you started in your garage.

Speaker 3 (01:38:11):
Andy.

Speaker 1 (01:38:11):
Is that how this all, this, this this Heart Brewery
came to be.

Speaker 10 (01:38:16):
Yeah, it's it's probably a pretty common story for for
US craft brewers. We start, uh in our garage or basement,
brewing in five gallon buckets, you know, cooking on a
cookstove and boiling that way, and you know, starting to
share with friends, and then uh, it's it's kind of
an addicting little hobby and it grows over time, and

(01:38:38):
uh it's a it's a fun community. And uh as
it grows and grows and you start to meet more people,
that's when the excitement starts to build and leads to
things like this.

Speaker 1 (01:38:51):
Well, did you guys know each other for a long time,
like this was like a hobby like your golfing buddies
and your brewing buddy kind of thing, or do you
meet by by virtue of like through your independent home brewing.
I mean, I'm just kind of curious how long you
guys known each other and how you got together.

Speaker 10 (01:39:06):
No, I appreciate the question. Brian, So, Andy and I
have worked together in our professional lives for almost twenty years,
and our third partner is, which is my son, Miss
greg so Coreotis. Our third partner got involved with home

(01:39:26):
brewing from his father in law and it did not
take very long to understand that interest from inside the
family to connect him to Andy. And these two have
been brewing together here for the last five or seven
years and talking about getting the bit by the bug.
These guys have expanded it to something really impressive, both

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in terms of the size of their equipment and the
continued investment that way, but also the quality of the
beers and really honing in on some of the best
beers in terms of the palate that Cincinnati has to
offer around here. I would say I was interested in
that previous conversation about heritage and the one thing, while
the buildings may be disappearing over time, the ingredients do not,

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the recipes do not, and the heritage is alive.

Speaker 1 (01:40:16):
And well, thanks, Well, that is wonderful, you know, a
positive spin on that. I'm gonna pause. I'm going to
bring you back because I want to talk about hearth
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be fun, because I've always had that in the back
of my mind, you know, homebrewing. That might be a
fun hobby to start. I want to find out how
long it takes you to come up with a great bat,
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Speaker 1 (01:42:45):
Seventh thirty nine, fifty five KRCD talk station Lightning things
up here on a Friday, which is always a pleasure
talking with Andy plodgsdead and Greg Otis, owners of Hearth
Brewery Cannabilla Choreote is not on the phone, but he
is part one of the partners in this new Hearth Brewery.
But you gotta start it out doing home brew. And again,
I know people who have done it. I haven't ever
gone down that road myself, although it seems intriguing opportunity

(01:43:07):
to be creative. Is it a difficult thing to sort
of learn? I mean, and I joked about it as
we went into the break. I mean, I'm sure that
some of the batches went down the sink. And I've
heard people like trying to experiment and coming up with
some really weird beers. And there are some really strange
ones out there readily available. Is it a tough process
to learn? How long does it take? Do you really

(01:43:29):
feel confident you have a good batch? Guys?

Speaker 10 (01:43:34):
Yeah, I know it doesn't happen overnight. But there's a
lot of parallel efforts with cooking, you know, if you
kind of have a passion for cooking. So yeah, I
mean you're following a recipe, you're starting out learning by
what others do with their own recipes, and from there
you kind of branch out, you tweak recipes anyway, similar

(01:43:56):
to the way you would cooking, you know, add a
little more salt here to a to a pasta dish
kind of thing. Yeah. So but you know, yeah, no,
I've had plenty of sink pores with some bad matches
over the years before I've got things down, you know,
with with homebrewing, carbonations really challenging. Packaging is difficult. There's

(01:44:19):
some different things that you know, now that we're we're
launching into the commercial world, we're so excited some of
the some of the headaches go away. But now with
that new headaches as we're dealing with three hundred and
thirty gallons at a time. Yeah, but not screw.

Speaker 1 (01:44:32):
Up, Yeah, I imagine. And I'll tell you what in
the process you mentioned screwing up and the process of
screwing up other than maybe trying to combine dumb ingredients
or ingredients. Ultimately they don't work together. And I am
a I'm passionate man when it comes to cooking, I'm
a total foodie. I spent my life growing I grew
up in the kitchen, still love to cook. So I
get all that. But in terms of the biggest uh

(01:44:56):
like stumbling block that you could run into in any
given batch brew is it the time on the on
the on the stove, is it the the fermenting time.
Where's the biggest problem area in brewing your own beer?

Speaker 10 (01:45:10):
Well, we always say that the most important thing is sanitization,
keeping everything clean. Yeah, so what happens to beers, It
can get a bacterial infection and sour the beer, and
so that that's our number one concern. We constantly are
cleaning here, you know, wearing gloves, hosing things down. It's

(01:45:30):
it's a constant effort to keep it as sterile as possible.
That's that's number one priority at all times.

Speaker 1 (01:45:36):
Well, and dealing with consistency. You know, I'm an I
p A guy, and there are certain a couple of
different I p as that I regularly buy. They always
taste the same, you know, how do you maintain a
level of consistency, like Okay, alcohol by volume is seven
point five percent. It's seven point five percent this week,
next month, next year. It's still going to How do
you get that level of consistency batch after badge?

Speaker 10 (01:46:00):
Yeah, it's it's a it's about taking a million readings
and measurements and adjusting if you have to. So I
me everything from the the salt content of the water
to the boil temperatures and times, uh, making small adjustments
throughout the process. Uh, it's it's yeah, everything you can
do to try to be as consistent as possible. But

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we're constantly measuring and making adjustments throughout the process to
make sure that we get the product the way we
want it every time.

Speaker 1 (01:46:30):
And there's a sampling component too, like you're a in
a way that you taste the product along with the
way to make sure that it is a consistent tasting product.
Is that is? Have I got that right? Yeah?

Speaker 10 (01:46:42):
Absolutely, we're we're we're tasting it when when it's a
hot work coming out of the boil kettle, which uh
you know, it's kind of tastes like a sweet hot tea.
At that point, we taste it as it's uh, you know,
ferm ending before it's carbonated. We take, we taste it
all along the way, so we have an idea what
it's going to end up like just just by taste

(01:47:05):
right along the way.

Speaker 1 (01:47:06):
Exactly all right. Well, in terms of establishing your own brewery,
which is uh, it's the Hearth Brewing companies where they
is their brewery, it's a Hearth Brewing just period Hearth brewing.
Did you go around a lot there's like fifty plus
small breweries in the Greater SINCINNTI, Eric, I've lost track,
there's so many. Did you go to a whole bunch
of different ones to sort of figure out how you

(01:47:27):
wanted Hearth brewing to look and to how you were
going to design it? And uh, and that kind of thing,
because I wouldn't know the first thing about opening up
my own business, let alone a brewing company.

Speaker 10 (01:47:38):
Yeah, it's a really good question. So obviously, yes, we're
connoisseurs of the craft industry, and we do visit a
lot of breweries, not only locally but around the country.
And and I think we do have an affinity for
a certain feel. Corey Uh has young kids, and we

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are very family centric in the way that we think
it's very core value to our business, and so when
we were thinking about where to locate ourselves, first, we
always we raised our kids. All of us raised our
kids and are raising our kids on the west side
of Cincinnati, and so we knew we were going to
be on the town. But we also knew that this

(01:48:19):
was a bit of a beer desert out here. There's
not a lot of attention given to the West side,
yet it's the scrowing part of Hamilton County. We really
think it's an important place for us to invest. So
we began to look around for the buildings that would
begin to express that family oriented feel and we actually
looked at a couple of different buildings out on the

(01:48:40):
west side before settling in on what formerly was the
Burwinkle Market Building in Harrison, Ohio. Great building, good bones,
a lot of great assets like parking, etc. That make
it very easy to use. And we immediately saw the
opportunity by way of this beautiful building, Dutch colonial roof,

(01:49:03):
big fireplace in the middle of it. What a great
place to bring your family and hang out. And hence
the name. Yeah, it came from the big stone fireplace
that's in the middle of the building. So identity was
created pretty quickly. And then it was just a matter
of how to maximize the use of this property and
make it a fun place to visit.

Speaker 1 (01:49:21):
How about that Hearth Brewing. You can find them on
line at Hearthbrewing dot com. It's it eleven ninety five
stone drive case you want to go out there, and
it is I want to emphasize the point you made
a couple of dons there. It is family friendly, you
have food, and you welcome everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:49:35):
We do indeed.

Speaker 10 (01:49:36):
Yeah, and then it's wide open so you can see
the brewing process as part of your visit. A lot
of breweries do that. We feel like that's really important
for people to be really connected to the process and
the product. A lot of places indoor and outdoor to sit,
hang out, play some games, have some fun. We really
feel like being synonymous with Arison, Ohio and the identity

(01:49:57):
of south Southwest Ohio an important consideration. So yeah, we
want to stay intimate with this community and welcome everybody.
By way of the first public announcement, our grand opening
will be Saturday, September twenty eighth, eleven am. We kick
it off and look forward people come out and visit

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with us.

Speaker 1 (01:50:18):
Saturday twenty eighth of September. Now on an all important questions.
You've already covered the food, you already covered the family environment.
Yes you can, and they encourage you to bring your kids.
Can you bring your dog?

Speaker 10 (01:50:33):
Because we have food, you can bring your dog, but
the dog will have to stay on the outside portions
of our establishment. We have a nice porch that seat's
about twenty five thirty people, and what used to be
the greenhouse for the bar Winkles is now an outdoor
patio which has plenty of space to hang out.

Speaker 1 (01:50:51):
Fantastic, gentlemen. I wish you all the best in the
world on your new business endeavor. Thanks for spending time
my listeners of me today again Hearthbrewing dot Com opening
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Stone Drive, Harrison, gentlemen, hope we get to talk again,
and I'll be in your place sometime sometime down the road.
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this time, and the rest of them are in between,
like desert storm and things like that. Oh okay, yeah,
we have a few with health issues that we're moving up.

Speaker 1 (01:53:46):
I know, I know, I know, we're all getting older
every day, Cheryl, I get the idea, But I remember
when the vast majority of the folks on Honor Flight
were World War Two veterans, and sadly that era has
passed us. So time does march on. But what a
great organization is You're are you full up for both?
I mean obviously for Tuesday you're already full up? Is
the is the next one already loaded up with with

(01:54:09):
UH guardians and veterans as well?

Speaker 2 (01:54:11):
Yes?

Speaker 11 (01:54:12):
SEEH Tower flights full too. So we work ahead now
with our new flight management system where we can work
two flights at once, so they're all they're booked up.
And then we have all the new e team that
helps us settle everyone, and there's four of them working
on it, so it's been going a lot smoother and
a lot quicker for the vets and for the guardians
and for us too.

Speaker 1 (01:54:32):
Okay, Well, I just love because I know some of
my listeners would would love to be on one of those,
and I know from having been on two of them
that yes, they do. So it'll be an honor, it
will be an opportunity down the road. Is there a
wait list that people can get on.

Speaker 11 (01:54:45):
Yes, there is. You just hit to go to the
website Honor Flight tri State dot org and on the
very front page is going to be your veteran initial
application and your guardians sign up sheet. So once you
get in our database system, then you're in line by
your date of birth when we take you. So perfect,
it's all very organized and we try to keep it

(01:55:06):
as fair as we can.

Speaker 1 (01:55:07):
All right, Well, Joel D. Hotterfly Tristate dot organs he
has many times in the past to the blog page
fifty five Kercy dot com. So folk can do that,
and I just really encourage if you have any interest
in doing it, just do it. So but that doesn't
mean my listeners don't have an opportunity to participate because
I have wax poetic about the welcome home ceremony at
CVG for the for the flight return, which everyone can

(01:55:29):
show up at next Tuesday.

Speaker 11 (01:55:31):
You can planes do back at eight thirty of course
weather conditions, but between eight thirty and nine, and we'll
bring all of that's into a parade coming in And
it's just a red, white and blue, patriotic, unbelievable event.
So it's right off of the main entrance at the airport.
You walk straight in and turn to the right. You
won't have any trouble finding us, just lit up in red,

(01:55:53):
white and blue. And we're by that beautiful new mural
that they have there in that rotanda section before the
parking garage. So it's really a really open space, really
nice and CBG has just been wonderful. Yes, we literally
take the place Hope for four days a year and
they're very accommodating. I couldn't say enough about our hometown airport.

Speaker 1 (01:56:11):
Oh, but you know what, I guarantee you the employees
that re CVG get as big of a thrill out
of as anybody else that shows up.

Speaker 11 (01:56:18):
Yeah, they hang around on the sides in case we
need anything. But yeah they can. They get some beautiful
publicity and wonder wonderful people. I just can't say enough.
A lot of honor flights have difficulties with their airport.

Speaker 2 (01:56:30):
We don't.

Speaker 11 (01:56:31):
They are top shelf.

Speaker 2 (01:56:32):
The whole way.

Speaker 1 (01:56:32):
Well, bring the kids, bring the family, bring your friends,
welcome home the veterans, and enjoy the absolute just beautiful
display of patriotism and supporting a lot of folks like
for notably, as I'd like to point out, the Vietnam
veterans who were treated so poorly when they return home
from combat after serving their country. You can treat them
really well just by being there, and they'll get a

(01:56:53):
big kick out of it too.

Speaker 11 (01:56:55):
Well. It lifts everyone up, mostly the Vets. It gives
them a little closure on their war experience and hopefully
their families get to see them being thank for once.
And it's beautiful. You know, it's a very very community event,
and the Vets just love it. I mean, we get
such wonderful notes and calls back to people that are
crying on the phone saying they had no idea. Nobody

(01:57:15):
cared anymore, you know, Oh, no one cared anymore. And
this really gives them, you know, a little bit of
closure in this later part of their lives. So it's
a lot of fun for them and for us to
you know, mix with the thank you and the graciousness
that goes along with the trip. But then there's a
lot of fun involved too well.

Speaker 1 (01:57:31):
There is and a lot of allergy outbreaks, I might
point out. It's very emotional, but always in a very
positive way. On behalf of all of my listeners, my
veteran listeners, including just everybody else in the Greater Cincinnati area.
Thank you, Cheryl Popping, everybody involved with Honor Flight tri
State for doing what you do. And I'll encourage them
again to get over to CVG next Tuesday for the

(01:57:53):
welcome home ceremony because it's fantastic. We'll talk again, I know, Cheryl.
And when you have that, we get a little bit
closer to the event. And you have in November the
Bourbon event. You come on on the program and spread
the news on that one too.

Speaker 11 (01:58:05):
That would be awesome. See everyone on Tuesday.

Speaker 1 (01:58:08):
Night looking forward to it. Thanks for what you do again,
have a great weekend. Seven fifty six right now fifty
five kr CD talk station stick around. We got Bill
O'Reilly a brand new book confronting the President's very interesting one.
That and then Seaun Maloney's doing the first Empower You
Fall semester. It's lethal force and the law. When can
you shoot somebody under what circumstances? That'll be a great

(01:58:29):
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Speaker 1 (01:58:49):
O five here fifty five KRC, the talk station. I'm
very happy Friday, May you and happier Welcome back to
the fifty five carsdy morning show Man. My listening audience
that doesn't need to have an introduced Bill o'reile. You've
read all of his books. He's got eighteen number one
ranked nonfiction books, Remember the Killing Series. I think Bill,
you've been on my program half a dozen times for
your Killing Series. I've read every single one of those

(01:59:11):
outstanding author you are, and today you're gonna be talking
about your brand new book confronting the President's no spin
assessment from Washington to Biden. Bill, O'Reilly, welcome to the program.
It's great to have you back on.

Speaker 2 (01:59:23):
Hey you been Brian.

Speaker 1 (01:59:24):
I've been fine. I've been fine. But now this is
a you started Washington, you ended Biden, and it's more
than just sort of the general description. You actually do
some interesting detective work. We got some corrupt ones, we
got some philanderers, we got some terrible press, I mean
a great assessment from A to z. Here what prompted you?

Speaker 2 (01:59:47):
And if you read Confronting the President's cover to cover,
you'll be the smartest kid on your block. You'll know
everything about your country. So we got forty five individuals,
and they're really like all of us in the sense
that they do good and bad things. And I don't
rank them. I say here, it's who they are. Here's

(02:00:07):
how they lived, right down on what they eat for
lunch and breakfast. Here's the overall assessment that we have
of them. But you make up your online whether they
helped or hurt the country. And it's fun to read it,
as all my killing books are. We're shifting from killing
to confronting now, but it's the same style. It's the

(02:00:31):
same breezy, fun style and on every page you're gonna
go WHOA. I didn't know that. I didn't know George
Washington's mother didn't like them and they had a big feud.
I didn't know that Abraham Lincoln once contemplated suicide. I
didn't know any of that. So that's why we're the
most successful nonfiction book authors in the world.

Speaker 1 (02:00:50):
With that question, you and Martin Duggard, your co author
of these books, and these books my question, and I
actually looked up the DSM five diagonia for narcissism because
I regularly accuse most all politicians of being malignant narcissists
and wonder what drives them? Did you can you come
up with a general conclusion about personality types for presidents

(02:01:11):
who actually are they becaing president or politicians generally speaking,
or are they a mixed bag?

Speaker 2 (02:01:18):
Well, there are some people with very positive ambition and
they want to help other people, and there are presidents
like that. I think Teddy Roosevelt goes into that category.
And then there are other people who are malevolent and
they love power and they'll do anything you get it.

(02:01:39):
And Lyndon Johnson would be the poster boy for that,
and then there are people in the middle. But we
had them all in the forty five elections, actually forty
six because grew over Cleveland got elected twice. We've had
them all, and it's my job to kind of ferret
it out and stop mythologizing people and tell Americans who

(02:02:03):
they really were, because the book is relevant to today.
I mean, one of the really interesting parts of the
book is that Kamala Harris's campaign is a base on
the nineteen twenty election. It's a really they're doing exactly
the same thing as Warren Harding did.

Speaker 3 (02:02:25):
Kidding.

Speaker 2 (02:02:26):
Nobody knows who Warren Harding is. So buy and you
go out in Cincinnati today and you stop somebody going, hey,
how about that Warren Harding? He goes, isn't he here, rapper?
I don't know he is. He is one of the
worst because nobody knew anything about him, and he wouldn't campaign,

(02:02:46):
he wouldn't answer any questions. He sat on his porch
in Marion, Ohio, and if you wanted to see him,
he had to go there and way up to him
and he gets in and it was his absolute disaster.
And it's so relevant today because we don't know anything
about Kamala Harris. Don't we know that our values haven't changed?
What values of those ladies?

Speaker 10 (02:03:07):
You know?

Speaker 2 (02:03:08):
So I tried to make the book very relevant to
what Americans are going through this year.

Speaker 1 (02:03:13):
Well, I grabbed a hold of Hearting there because I
noted from the materials. And this is the first time
you and I have talked where I have not read
your book in advance. I'll acknowledge that ahead because you
quite often asked that question directly of those who were
interviewing you. But I will read it. But Harding apparently
had a lot of extramarital affairs as well.

Speaker 2 (02:03:31):
Yeah, and he conducted them in the White House. I mean,
but it's even worse than that. While the campaign was
going on, his mistress gave birth to his kid and
nobody reported it was insane. So this is a real villain,
this Harding guy. And you know, Commas not nearly what

(02:03:57):
he was, but the techniques that he used to achieve
power being used again today.

Speaker 1 (02:04:05):
And I guess that's to me that the American people
are responsible for allowing that. How can someone who you
know nothing about get elected by the American people? I guess,
going back to Harding again, how did they pull it
off back then? How did people remain so in the
dark about someone yet elect him for president.

Speaker 2 (02:04:22):
Well, it was just coming up World War One and
we didn't have TV. Radio was in its infancy. The
papers were they were okay, but you know out in Marion, Ohio,
Hardy himself owned the newspapers. So it wasn't the folks'
fault so much. Then they were cut up with Woodrow

(02:04:44):
Wilson an eight year of the eight years of Democrats
in the World War One era. It wasn't so much
the folks. It was here's how we're going to get power.
We know the Republicans knew that Harding was ridiculous, but
didn't have anybody else, and he was a good front
man and they won. And then the kicker on the
whole story is that he dies in San Francisco, and

(02:05:06):
some people believe that his wife poisoned them. Florrence had
had enough of him running around his mistress. So I
can't confirm that. But Florence got him in the ground fast,
and all autopsy just Larrence dead. Get him in the ground.

Speaker 1 (02:05:24):
Well, I have a conversation every week with Judjenna, Paula,
Tana and we always focus on the Constitution because he
and I are politically like minded in our are our
belief in the Founding Principles and what's embodied in the Constitution,
and that our rights are in fact God given. If
you had to put your finger on one particular president
of all of the ones you looked at all of them,
who do you think under has undermined the Founding Father's

(02:05:47):
principles or the principles embodied in the Bill of Rights.
If I can boil it down to just that part
the most.

Speaker 2 (02:05:53):
It's a hard question. I think John Tyler, who was
a slaver, a trader, you know, to be Canoe and
Tyler too. We go back to Ohio again with Harrison.
He dies John Tyler. Nobody knows much about him. He's
VP Southern guy. Virginia comes in and you know, pretty

(02:06:17):
much runs roughshot over the Constitution. Everything he wanted, he
beat over like hundreds of bills, and then when the
war broke out he became a senator for the Confederacy.
He's a trader, I mean, so this guy was about
as low as you can go about trying to undermine
our Constitution, and overall.

Speaker 1 (02:06:34):
Your assessment of the Reagan administration. That's when I came
of political age, Bill O'Reilly, and I just just really
embraced Reagan's presidency. He was uplifting, he you know, it
was just a positive guy. And of course he had
a very successful presidency. Anything about Reagan that you get
popped up there that you found out about that most

(02:06:55):
people wouldn't even know about. I mean, I know about
the Iran Contra affair, but what about you know, these
other select details of these other scanners were something that
maybe is really great about Reagan that we don't know about.

Speaker 2 (02:07:06):
Well, we wrote Killing Reagan, So if you really want
to know about the man, that soup to nuts right there.
Ronald Reagan was a successful president because of his largely
because of his demeanor, his optimism. Yeah, he lifted the
country out of his Jimmy Carter Malaise Carter very similar

(02:07:27):
to Joe Biden, but Biden was worse in Carter. Carter
at least tried Biden, did you try so? Reagan, the
force of his personality and that he knew how to
present himself was his strongest suit. Second strongest was his
vision that we can collapse communism if the United States

(02:07:51):
develops this weaponry that the Russians just don't have the
money to do it. That was a pretty brilliant strategy
and it worked. Now, Sagan was out of office when
the Berlin Wall came down and the Soviet Union collapsed,
But it was him.

Speaker 12 (02:08:06):
He was the.

Speaker 2 (02:08:07):
Architect of that, and he had very firm beliefs. By
the way, Ronald Ray, he wasn't always she washing. So
Reagan was an excellent president.

Speaker 1 (02:08:15):
He's in a top ten kind of figured. You reached
that conclusion well in your assessing Donald Trump. Of course,
we're gonna have a choice here in November. We have
no idea who Kamala Harris is other than the things
that in position. She'd out loud taken as she tried
to run for president, but no one had any interest
in her. But you had four years of Donald Trump.
Of course, his administration plagued by all the allegations of

(02:08:38):
collusion and the like. What's your overall assessment of Trump
as you as you dealt with it in confronting the presidents, Well.

Speaker 2 (02:08:45):
He governed well for four years in my opinion, if
you look at the economy. Of course, Covid interrupted it,
but he's a libertarian, capitalist and at worked and real
wages is to proof they went up hundred percent for
everybody across the board. That's a really remarkable achievement. So
in the four years that he was there, he did

(02:09:07):
a much better job than Biden did in three and
a half. I mean, there's not even any comparison there.
So Trump should be ahead by ten points over Harris,
but he's not because he muddles the waters with crazy
stuff and that hurts him dramatically with people who don't
really pay close attention. They really don't know policy, and

(02:09:29):
they don't know how things get done, but they hear
stuff on they hear him say crazy stuff, and they
go and this guy, I'm tired of him. So with
Trump as a mixed bag, he's a deal maker and
he was successful. He accomplished an amazing thing by even
getting elected in sixteen. But he just isn't disciplined enough

(02:09:50):
to get that message across to the American people. I
hope that he course correct, but at this point, I mean,
you know, that's that's not a in November that could
go to her, which would be a disaster for the United.

Speaker 1 (02:10:04):
States, absolute disaster. Of course, in the amended version of
confronting the Presidents. He'll deal with Kamala Harris if she
does become president. He is Bill O'Reilly, along with Martin Duggard,
the name of the book Confronting the President's No Spin
Assessment from Washington to Biden. Bill O'Reilly, it's always wonderful
talking to you. Thank you so much for the books
that you write. They are a fantastic read and very informative.

Speaker 2 (02:10:26):
God Bran. After you finish the book, I'll come back.
We'll talk about it further.

Speaker 1 (02:10:29):
Alright, I look forward to that. Yes, I'll hold you
to that promise. Bill O'Reilly, have a wonderful weekend. My
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Friday to you come in next week. Were talking with
Sea Maloney, a licensed Ohio attorney firearms legal practices, emphasizing
gun rights. We're going to learn all about well in
the period of time we're talking about him, at least
something about lethal force. That's the subject matter of the
first Empower You Fall semester class that he'll be presenting.

(02:12:57):
Shawn and join the program next to talk about using
deadly force. So IMpower Youoamerica dot or just got a
link to that on the blog page fifty five cars
dot com. I just wanted to cook observation, and I
wanted to ask O'Riley about the debate, but I really
wanted to focus on the book because that was the
reason he was only John the Morning Show. But I
was critical after the debate, and I brought this up
into five o'clock hours, So if you're around an apologies,

(02:13:18):
But I wanted to do a quick summary of that
for folks that didn't hear my reassessment. I was critical
of Trump for mentioning the eating dogs and cats part
of it out of that story from Springfield, because you know,
I thought it was more important to stick with the
facts that we knew, because there's still claims that nobody
was eating dogs or cats. That's that's all made of.

(02:13:38):
It's an internet meme thing. But there are fifteen to
twenty thousand Haitian illegal immigrants living in Springfield or there migrants,
call them migrants. You don't like the term illegal whatever,
because I don't know the legal status of every one
of them. So let's not paint with the broadbrush, but
with over a very short period of time. A city
of sixty thousand turns in a city of eighty thousand

(02:14:02):
without notice and without the resources. I understand it's also
happening around town. So some some stories going back and
forth on Facebook, and then some articles that were actually
written about hundreds and hundreds of migrants from Mauritania settling
in Cincinnati. Notably, I believe it was Wyoming area. But

(02:14:22):
what Trump did in focusing on that, he got to
re talking about the dogs and cats part. But it
brought to people's focus the immigration problem, and by getting
people to react to that, you know, Trump mentioned nobody's
eating dogs or cats, But what were they talking about
in the context of a city that got overwhelmed with

(02:14:43):
an insane number of people they hadn't planned for. And
it went viral. The story is all across the country
in every major newspaper, from local news all the way
to the Wall Street Journal and the Washington Post, who
interestingly enough, the Washington Post wrote about the city of
Cincinnati getting these Mauritanian immigrants in an article from that

(02:15:05):
was part of the back and forth communication on this topic.
In an article from June ninth, I had never seen it,
and I don't profess to have seen every single article
about everything in every paper, but there it is. The
Washington Post wrote about it in a very glowing welcoming.
Oh City's welcoming, and there are people there that are
helping out. But it brought the focus and the attention

(02:15:26):
to the or the attention to the outlandish problem we
have with cities literally being overrun, and Springfield's a great
example of it. Even got the governor throwing money at it.
Governor who may have created the problem or help create
the problem, but at least it brought it to the
national attention. So I am a part of me wants
to give him credit for going down that road intentionally

(02:15:49):
for the purposes of turning this into a viral discussion,
or because he's Donald Trump and wants to go with
the weird, the salacious details, like you know, or the
strange part. It's the weird stuff that O'Reilly was talking
about that he inadvertently went down that row, which obviously
got my intention to made me angry at the time,
but it still worked out to his advantage because so

(02:16:13):
many people are now talking about the immigration situation, So
props to Trump on that one. And it's still viral
to this very day. So God bless the folks in
Springfield having to struggle with the challenges, and I wish
them all the best in the world. Let's learn about
self defense when you can use lethal force. Sean Maloney
joined the program next to talk about that. But after
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(02:18:04):
KRC Deep Talk Station. Hey thirty here fifty five KRC
the talk station. Very happy Friday to you, glad, Good
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to the fifty five CARC Morning Show Sean Maloney, who's
a license Ohio attorney. He is a specialist in firearms.
That's what his legal practice is all about, emphasizing gun
rights practices in all areas of firearm related law in

(02:18:27):
both state and federal courts, Second Amendment, criminal defense, as
well National Firearms Act issues. You can go on and
on about what he does for a living. He's doing
an Empower Youth seminar, the first one of the semester.
It's next what is it Thursday September nineteenth, beginning at
seven o'clock with Orlando Sonza talking about his run for
a congressional District one, and then he'll begin his conversation

(02:18:48):
on deadly force, lethal force and the law.

Speaker 1 (02:18:52):
That'll start at seven point thirty. You want to be
logged in Empower Youoamerica dot org. Sign up for to
show up at the Empower Youth studio to have Northland Boulevard.
It is a pleasure to have you on the Morning show.
Sean Maloney, Welcome, Thank you, Brian.

Speaker 12 (02:19:05):
It's great to be back.

Speaker 1 (02:19:07):
Oh well, you know, I'm a firearms owner. I'm an
attorney as well as you may know. It doesn't matter.
It doesn't mean as an attorney that I know anything about,
you know, the legal realities of firearms. And I didn't
practice tax law, and I don't know a whole lot
about the loopholes in the tax code either, but I
do have a pretty decent knowledge of firearms law and
what I have over the years heard people and it's

(02:19:27):
I think it's a growing problem before we get to
what justifies using lethal force, that people even who are
firearms owners, have expressed fear over using them, for fear
that they're going to get prosecuted, even under situations when
they are fearing for their life and have would justifiable
use of deadly force. How do you address that component,

(02:19:50):
you know, Brian, That's.

Speaker 12 (02:19:51):
That's the main reason why I created this seminar a
few years ago. I'm an entering instructor as well as
a concealed carry instructor and of course a criminal defense attorney,
mostly in self defense, and I often wondered how many
times do people leave classes in the state of Ohio
or now with perminalists carry How many times are they
carrying the fire and they really have no idea when

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they can legally improperly use the firem and self defense.
And I can tell you from representing people that have
taken another human life, you will not have the opportunity
to make that decision when the incidents occurring. It's over
in three seconds for the most part. So that's why
I created this class, because you need to be in
fear of death or service by the your harm before
anything starts in the down the road to using self defense.

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And that's the real problem because like I said, you
won't have time to think about it kind of make
that reasonable, proper decision when the incidance occurring. So you
need to think about it, talk about it, and make
that decision long before the incident occurs. And you are lucky.
We have a general idea what's going on. But if
you ask the general run of the middle person, the

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good girl or the good guy with the gun, they
always wait too long.

Speaker 1 (02:21:01):
Yeah, because they.

Speaker 2 (02:21:02):
Don't know the law.

Speaker 1 (02:21:04):
Well, let me give you a little scenario, because I
know that you've gotten I'm sure that you could not
have been through your life since January sixth to today
without being asked this question. Because I say a firm no,
no one was justified to shoot Ashley Babbitt as she
was trying to scoot through that little window area. She
was not threatening anyone. No one was struggling with you know,

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eminent apprehension of bodily harm, that no one was threatened
with death. So how is it that that officer got
away with shooting her and killing her? Your thoughts, You.

Speaker 12 (02:21:35):
Made the perfect statement. He got away with it because
there was nothing in that situation from what any of
us saw on the news, and it was all in
living color.

Speaker 2 (02:21:44):
He did not have a light in.

Speaker 12 (02:21:45):
My opinion and many other people's opinions, to use lethal
force and self defense. I don't know how he could
have been in fear of death. They're serious finally into
your harm and won't make that decision for him to
pull that trigger and kill her. It's not justified. And
you or I we would lose if we did that
anywhere in emerge to society and we were put on trial.

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What's your defense?

Speaker 1 (02:22:08):
Well, one thing in Ohio maybe, And we'll talk about
this when I'm bringing back the castle doctrine again. We're
talking with Shaan Maloney. He is a firearms expert and
a practice of law that involves defending folks that have
been accused of these types of things. Any firearms related
issues need to get in touch with Shaan Maloney. Bring
it back and we'll talk a little bit more about
this upcoming Empower Youth seminar and the law on firearms.

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Seven thirty nine Here fifty five Krcity Talk Station. You
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expert in all things firearms legally related. Sean was going
to ask you about the castle doctrine. So, if Ashley
Babbitt had broken the window in my front door and
was making her way into my home even though she
was not armed, I have a presumption in the state
of Ohio that she was there to do me grievous
bodily harm and hurt me, so I could justifiably use
my firearm or deadly force, as the case may be,

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if she was in my house, in my right on.

Speaker 2 (02:24:59):
The that's correct.

Speaker 12 (02:25:02):
When the castle doctrine went into effect, a couple of
things happened in the state of Ohio. The first thing
that happened is that we removed the duty to retreat.
Prior to that, and prior to the castle doctrine, if
the same person broke into your house and you could
safely retreat out your back door, well, how the law
required you to do that before you defended yourself and
your family. So when we enacted the castle doctrine, we

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also removed the duty to retreat. And the presumption is
if somebody breaks into your house under the circumstances that
you just explained, then the presumption is they're there to
do you harm, They're not there to do anything else,
and you can reasonably probably use self defense in that situation.

Speaker 1 (02:25:41):
Now I understand that you know there are certain circumstances
where just merely grabbing your gun could be considered lethal
force as opposed to actually pulling the trigger. Under what
circumstances could you get arrested just from merely, you know,
having your gun out as it were.

Speaker 12 (02:25:57):
Those are the cases of brandishing, if you're grabbing a farm,
pointing it or indicating that you have a firearm. And
just representative gentleman who was in a road raceed incident
and a gentleman follow him into the parking lot, an
argument that had ensued, and this gentleman went to his car,
grabbed a firem and was in a holster. Never took
it out of the holster and said, hey, I think

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this is over now. He was arrested for improperly brandishing
this firearm and for menacing at that point in time.
And then it all came down to was he in
fact and fear of death or serious boy into your arm?
Because remember something, Brian, if you introduced a firearm to
the situation, guess what somebody is in fear of death?
And so at that time, the legal system steps in

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and decides were you in fear of death? You were
serious value in your harmon? Can you reasonably explain that
he had the opportunity and the ability to hurt you
and that you were in fear for your life. So
that's kind of the process that the core system takes.

Speaker 1 (02:26:55):
Yeah, that street ends up running both ways, which is
why it's important never to brand of firearm if you're
not dealing with this grievous bottle of injury concern. Now,
let me pose a scenario for you, one that actually
happened to me, and let's see what your legal assessment
is on what I did. Get out of work. A
guy tried I just summarized it by saying, the guy
tried to kill me. I'm on the Expressway, a high
speed lane. He's coming up on me hot I'm going

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eighty five. He's going about one hundred and fifteen in
a big truck. I get out of the way. I
go over to the center lane. As soon as he
passes me, he gets in front of me, locks his
brakes up, and from that point in the middle of
I seventy one north of Montgomery Road, all the way
up to two seventy five Montgomery Road off ramp, which
is what I take to get home, he is ramming
into me. He pit maneuvered me, or he tried to anyway.

(02:27:39):
On the on ramp to two seventy five, I say
he's trying to kill me. I mean he's in a
huge truck and I'm on my little sports car. So
when my car comes to a dead stop because he
had disabled by ramming me multiple times right there at
Montgomery Road, I have my firearm in my hand as
I'm opening my car door because I'm expecting this guy
to be right there. Was I justified in paring myself for.

Speaker 12 (02:28:01):
That, absolutely in that situation, and things have changed in
our lifetime, Brian, if you think about it, when mob
violence occurs, you can use your fire or your automobile
as a weapon just as much as you can use
anything else. And certainly at those speeds, by what he
was doing to you, if it wasn't for your driving skills.

Speaker 2 (02:28:20):
Who knows, could easily have been killed.

Speaker 12 (02:28:23):
And the presumption is, in a reasonable presumption by anybody
listening to you, is this guy means to do you harm? Yes,
So if you're going to say stop he's coming at you,
absolutely you have a right to use self defense.

Speaker 1 (02:28:34):
Well, and I tried to flee. I did my best
to get the hell out of there, because you know,
I got a much faster car than this guy had,
but the traffic allowed him to catch up with me.
That's how he was able to do it. It's just
I keep reflecting by that. It's been going years, years
and years ago by this point, But I did think
about my daughter in that circumstance. She could have been
easily killed with that pittmaneuver thing he pulled on me.

(02:28:54):
Because that's a dangerous area there, and of course your
cargo is completely out of control. Now let my listeners, no, Sean,
if you don't mind, because you know I hear it
all the time. People think that they have the right
to use deadly force when it comes to people stealing
things from their house or their driveway, their garages. And
I want to spell that notion and let you explain

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that absolutely.

Speaker 12 (02:29:17):
And I always remember this case because I'm sure you
remember the first.

Speaker 1 (02:29:20):
Case that you had to.

Speaker 2 (02:29:24):
Exactly what I mean.

Speaker 12 (02:29:27):
The United States Supreme Court and a spring loaded shot
gun case decided that human life is more important than property,
and we have to remember that. Now there are some
jurisdictions where there's little modifications of that, but generally speaking, folks,
human life is more important than any property. And I
think probably what happened to you and what transported on

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the highway gave a great indication that you understand that.
Because Brian, what's the best gunfight.

Speaker 2 (02:29:54):
You've ever been in? The one you're never in.

Speaker 8 (02:29:56):
Amen, you don't need to do that.

Speaker 12 (02:29:58):
Remember, human life is always more important than property. Now,
you may try to stop somebody from sealing something and
then can escalate to where all of a sudden you're
in fear of deaths or serious by the name of
your arm. But immediately the first thought is human life
is more important than any property. And I'm sure you're
listening with listeners, are understand the logic in that absolutely.

Speaker 1 (02:30:20):
And inspite of what that guy tried to do with me,
I've always I've said it many many times, the best
thing that happened to me that day is that I
didn't have to shoot him. He was walking away from me.
As I was carefully looking around getting out of my car,
I saw him across the street, like, thank God, I
don't want to shoot anybody.

Speaker 12 (02:30:38):
And for your listeners out there, I've had the opportunity
forced it or unfortunately to represent a lot of people
that are forced to take another human life. And I
can tell you something, folks, You're changed forever. You will
never be the same. And that's why I think called
the SA's one thing that we offer is psychological counseling
because folks, you can't imagine that, I can't imagine taking

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it into our life. So that's why we make the determination.
We go to classes, like I said, par you, and
we understand when we can legally and properly use loose
for force and self defense because we all want to
get home at night to kiss our spouses and our
kids as a walking the door.

Speaker 1 (02:31:14):
That's exactly right. I'm glad you doubled down on what
I said there, because, like I said, it's just I
never want to have to do that ever ever, because
I anticipate the aftermath in my head. You can imagine,
you know, every day of your life, you probably reflect
back on the day that you had to kill somebody.
Oh'd be awful.

Speaker 2 (02:31:30):
Now.

Speaker 1 (02:31:30):
Yeah, I just want to emphasize another point you made.
This is why having the weapon with you, a concealed
or even holstered firearm if you want to carry open
and I'm not a big fan of it, but if
the situation escalates, you do go outside and confront that
person stealing your lawnmower in your front yard, you have

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it available to use if the situation deteriorates. That's the
importance of preparation, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (02:31:57):
Oh?

Speaker 12 (02:31:58):
Absolutely? And again I often wonder if all the classes
I tea, when people walk out, do they just put
their firearm in their knight's hand and never touch it again. No,
I've had friends and they keep their firearm in their
glove department and now they're in the store, or now
they're pumping gas, so they're doing something. I said, so
what good is that gun going to do? You have
to be prepared, and that preparedness isn't just known by

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the law buying citizens. Every bad guy and a bad
girl in the world always take a second thought. When
we introduced concealed carry into state of Ohio, is this
person armed or isn't they or aren't they armed? And
that's really what reduces crime in states of the law
concealed carry. But you have to remember that you have
to be prepared taking the class. Having a gun at

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home or in your glove compartment, that's not preparation because,
like I've said, three seconds the people that I've represented,
the last two people that I represented that had to
take a human life and self defense. It happened right now,
and one person was shot at three times before he
had an opportunity to defend himselves, and the other person

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is being rushed with the guy with a machete. Folks,
you don't have time, and you don't have time to
rack around in your chamber. If we're going to carry
a farm for self defense, it's got to be ready
all the time.

Speaker 1 (02:33:15):
Common sense from Sean Maloney, and real quick here, I
know I have a couple of listeners who will not
frequent any business that has one of those no Firearms
ALLOWND stickers on the front door. They can't private property
owner can prohibit them in. But what of what kind
of obligation do they then owe you? My argument as
an attorney's always been from the perspective, well, if you

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tell me I can't defend myself, then you better damn
will be able to defend me, and that you will
be liable if you don't. Is there a lie theory
of liability along those lines that exist under Ohio law.

Speaker 12 (02:33:46):
Yeah, there's my ability, and it's premacist liability. If you're
taking away our ability to protect ourselves, then presumably your
your task with protecting us in ourselves. And I think
that Gary Farmers many years ago now, when they made
termination to take their signs there are no gun signs
off the door.

Speaker 2 (02:34:03):
They understood that.

Speaker 12 (02:34:05):
They understood that, I personally know that you understood that
they don't know anything about the other person without a
concealed carry permit, but they know that somebody with a
concealed carry permits never been convicted of the selony has
taken the class, has had a background check, and they're
a good guy or a good girl with a firearm.
So you know that's important.

Speaker 2 (02:34:22):
I always realize that.

Speaker 1 (02:34:23):
All Right, one last question for a part company today.
It's been a great conversation. Sean again next Thursday, seven
pm at Poweryoamerica dot org or two twenty five North
and Boulevard to see them live. What's your favorite concealed
carry of choice?

Speaker 12 (02:34:34):
My friend, you know I have a bias, and all
my friends know that bias. I've been a glot guy
since the early nineteen nineties. Yeah, generally speaking, I carry
a Glock nineteen, but I did get a glot forty
three X for my birthday a few years ago, and
I always tell people in my classes sometimes you have

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to dress for the situation for your firearm and vice versa.
So I'm a blog guy. Generally speaking, what's on here
right now is a Glock nineteen.

Speaker 1 (02:35:04):
That's a larger one. That's a full frame. I got
a couple of Block twenty six is which are smaller frame.
But the new concealed carrier choice for me is the
cig P three sixty five, which has a narrower frame,
although it still has enough AMO to mirror a double stack.
You probably are familiar with that. But just a couple
of choices for my listeners out there is check out
Sean next Thursday, empower Youoamerica dot org. Sewan has been

(02:35:26):
great talking. We can keep up the great work.

Speaker 12 (02:35:28):
Brian's great talk to you too, and this is just
a great conversation for your listeners.

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