Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas -- 9/16/24

Kevin Gordon subs in for Brian Thomas on the Monday Show and Kevin talks with Ken Anderson (Not the Bengals quarterback!) and economist/author Vikram Mansharamani.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Talk station and now Kevin Golden filling in for Brian
Thomas on fifty five Chaos E the talk station.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Six minutes after five o'clock, Happy Monday. Brian is off
doing Brian Ethings today and you got me, and man,
i'll tell you what. You know, you start off the
show prep and you start on Sunday and you start
looking at stuff and you think, Okay, here's how the
show's going to lay out. But all of a sudden

(00:40):
news gets in the way, and we're going to get
to all that on the latest stuff that we've got
as far as the latest assassination attempt on Donald Trump
and basically, folks, this has got to stop and somebody
needs to take responsibility for this, and they need to
take responsibility for it immediately, and it needs to stop,

(01:01):
and they need to start walking back there crap that
they've been saying.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
But we'll get to all that.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
By the way, if you've you know that when I'm
in I usually not usually all the time, I post
on Facebook what my show guests are and what we've
got lined up.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
And let me just run through that.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
You got me basically news and views from now until
six fifty five at seven o'clock, we're going to be
talking with Ken Anderson and not that guy, the other
Ken Anderson. He's an author and we'll talk about third
Party Factor in November. And he's an author of a
couple of books, and of course we'll be talking to him.

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And then from about seven thirty five, you know, after
the end of the break or the news at the
bottom of the hour, So eight twenty five more news
and views and you know me, I may you know,
I may come out of my shell today and I
may offer an opinion or two. I you know, it
depends an eight thirty five to eight to fifty five.
We're going to be talking to Vic rum Man Sharh Ramani.

(01:59):
He is an economist author, and we'll talk about his
latest book, The Making of a Generalist an independent Thinker
finds unconventional success in an uncertain world. So we'll be
talking to him and a couple of things about him
we'll get to later on. But you know, this weekend
was very interesting. We had well over in Northern Kentucky

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the annual Northern Kentucky Right to Life Banquet Awards dinners,
you know, a celebration, the celebration for life and it
was a little I will say it was not a
packed house, but it was a very well attended function

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and people were talking about or people were thinking back
in twenty twenty two, after the Supreme Court rightly overturned
Roe v. Wade and being turned back to the States
that well, okay, this would you know, be an issue
that be done on a state by state basis. But

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the Democrats and the so called feminists have not let
this issue go. They make it seem that there's to
be this country wide national ban on abortion and they
don't want any limitations whatsoever. They're saying that, you know,
they're all for women and so on. But and they

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say that we want to just go back to Roe v.
Wade on a national basis and codify that. The problem
is is that Roe v. Wade was open ended. There
were no limitations. That's one of the myths. There were
no limitations on abortion all the way up to the
ninth month, right even before birth. And Hillary Clinton said this,

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said so much when she was running for president. And
this is the hidden little secret that they don't want
to talk about, and also one of the other hidden
secrets in here, and people don't talk about it. Is
the fact that Justice Blackman, who wrote the opinion, pretty
much and I'm gonna paraphrase a little bit, if you

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determine when life begins, this whole idea of rogue goes
out the window. And he went into this big discussion
and maybe too much into the weeds here, but he
did go into this discussion about, well, how has life
been interpreted in the past, And he went back to
the fifteenth century when they were talking about what they

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called the quickening when you can actually feel the baby kick.
There are some I think some of my Jewish friends
have told me that in some sex or I think
I don't remember whether it's Reformed or Orthodox or whatever.
I'm sure one of them will call me and correct
me on this, but they don't believe that life begins
until birth. And so when you have this, it should

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be you know, if what do we keep hearing during COVID,
what do we keep hearing during the clminess trying to
take over the world and this type of thing and
climiness is a combination of communism and environmentalisms, so I
just call it climiness. What do they keep telling us?
Follow the science, follow the science, follow the science. Oh,

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except unless you're talking about abortion, unless you're talking about
life issue, you know, because if they determine that life
begins at conception, well then that kind of throws everything
out the window, if you I mean, and quite honestly,
the question becomes And as I tell my people that
people that ever talk I talk to about this issue

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is I make the comment that if your pro choice,
you just haven't thought about it long enough. Because if
you start thinking about what actually happens from the moment
of conception until the actual birth, where is it that
somewhere if you were to do the ultrasound of the
uterus and see the little cell in there and start

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growing and all this sort of stuff, when does this
you know, ban of life start walking across the uterus
and then jump into that fetus, so to speak. If
you do nothing, if the baby is implanted in the
womb and no interference whatsoever, the outcome is going to

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be a baby, is going to be a man or
a woman, or a.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
Boy or a girl.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
It ain't going to be a giraffe, and ain't gonna
be a dog, and it ain't gonna be a cat. So
the whole premise of this business of well, you know,
we don't know when life begins. Well, when stuff starts
growing organically and sells divide according to science, that's when
life begins, folks. And then this whole business of you know,

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these journalists and everybody starting to change the language because
it doesn't suit their purposes. They're defending reproductive rights, well, folks,
apparently nobody's interrupting.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
With the reproductive rights.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Otherwise they would be seeking an abortion because apparently their
reproductive rights are working just fine. What they are looking
for is a legal permission to do a moral wrong.
They know that what they're doing is not right, but
they're looking for the government. They're looking for the laws.
They're looking for somebody to tell them what to do

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or that it's giving them permission to do. And the
individual person knows individually. And I have delved into this
so many different times with different organizations, talking to people
who have women who have survived abortions, because it is
a trauma, no matter what they say, no matter what

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they try to couch, it is a trauma on the
woman that a lot of times.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
There is regret.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
They don't want to talk about the suicide rate, They
don't want to talk about the addiction rate. They don't
want to talk about some of the other things that
come as a result of the side effects of having
an abortion. They don't want to talk about, you know,
the fact that in some cases the man who tried
to talk to a woman out of having an abortion
winds up committing suicide as well. So all this stuff,

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But this Northern Kentucky Right to Life, it's a wonderful event.
The program was the largest program that they've had, a
number of advertisers, the number of people involved, and as
I said, it wasn't a packed house, but there were
a hell of a lot of people there. And this
this issue is not over, and it needs to People

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that are pro life need to get off their butts,
need to get out and talk, need to be bold
and be warriors for life. And the fact that people
will kind of, you know what, pretty much seed the
discussion to other people and say, well, you know, I

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personally am not for it, I wouldn't do it, but
I'm not going to tell anybody else what to do.
Or men how sometimes they'll cop out and say, hey,
you know, whatever you want to do, babe. You know
the number of times I've talked to people that are
involved with these crisis pregnancy or organizations that by the way,
Planned parenthood and whatever, and the Left is trying to

(09:15):
shut down and put out a business.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
But I've talked to.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Some of them and they talk about how a lot
of times these women will come in and they have
they had talked to ten people, ten of their friends
before they came in to get care and how to
go through the pregnancy, and what options they have, you know,
through the pregnancy and whatnot, as far as maybe given

(09:42):
the child up for adoption, keep keeping the child, what
type of things they can be done to help them
in the first few years or encourage them to keep
the child. And they comes down to they were looking
for that one person, that one person to tell them
that it'll be okay. Yet planned parenthood will take somebody

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at their most vulnerable, at their most at when they
feel as though the world is crashing down around them,
and say, oh, we can take care of this, no
problem anyway, We'll pick this up and talk about some
of the other stuff. Of course, we got to get
to the latest assassination attempt on Donald Trump.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
I'm Kevin Gordon, fifty five KRS. The talks.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Five nineteen in the morning, Kevin Mordon in for Brian's
Thomas fifty five kr SE the talk station Hey by
the way, phone number seven four nine fifty five hundred
one eight hundred eighty two three talk one eight hundred
eighty two three eight two five five pound five point
fifty on that AT and T wireless phone, you know,
and talking about my weekend in addition to this right

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to life, and it's amazing. And you know, I have
a little bit of problem with journalists, well so called journalists,
because as I refer to them, the spoon fed regurgitators
in the mainstream media. And for those of you that
are not familiar with that term that I use. When
you look at in Europe, they do not call these
news anchors. They call them presenters because they're you know,

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when you look at the news anymore, they are not
going out and doing the investigation. They're not going out
and doing the man on the street interviews, they're not
going out there with the cameras. All they're doing is
reading off a teleprompter. And if you notice over the years,
you see, if you watch certain channels, you'll start seeing
the same phrase used over and over again. You'll see

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that on MSNBC, CNN, CBS, ABC, whatever, all the different
alphabets where they'll say the same thing, you know, basically
when you I mean, how many times have you heard
in the same day when like Biden or Harris says something,
then it's repeated. You know, Trump is an existential threat,
Trump is this, Trump is that, and so on. It's

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almost like they have the same script that goes to
everyone and they all repeat the thing. And so when
I refer to it is that they are spoon fed
the news and all they do is just regurgitate it
to us. So I call them spoon fed regurgitators in
the mainstream media. Problem I have with them is that
sometimes it's not necessarily the news that they cover, which

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is bad enough, but it's the news that they choose
not to cover, the news that they don't even talk about.
And then the way they turn phrases and supposedly I
would assume that if you're a journalist, you have at
least some basic knowledge of the English language, and with
the English language, you have certain definitions and certain words

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mean certain things. So you don't allow or you should
be correcting, those who try to change the language, because,
as the Communists showed us back during Stalin and Mao
and all these other Communist dictators, if you control the language,
you can control the people I mentioned in the previous

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segment saving reproductive rights. Why nobody's interfering with your reproductive rights.
Otherwise you wouldn't be seeking an abortion. Which you're looking
for is legal permission to do a moral wrong. When
we talk about this gender affirming surgery, wait a minute,
I'm sorry. You already have a gender. What you're trying

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to do is reassign that and mutilate yourself.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
So call it what it is.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
And when it comes to the life issue, and this
is one of the things that really bugs me and
has been bugging me well, probably for thirty plus years
or more. In the newsrooms, they all have what they
call the AP style Book, and that AP style book
tells them how to phrase certain things, how to address

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like a you know, if you're right, a story about
a congressman.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
How you say Rep?

Speaker 2 (14:04):
You know, representative like Thomas Massey, my congressman from northern Kentucky, Rep.
Thomas Massey, and then put in parentheses are ky fourth
or the honorable this or whatever? How you do these
things whenever it comes to a pro life organization. In

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the style book, it says when you do a pro
life when you introduce the organization, COMMA an anti abortion organization.
So the organization is called Northern Kentucky Right to Life.
If you see it in print, it's Northern Kentucky Right

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to Life. COMMA an anti abortion organization. They're a pro
life organization. So should do you see anything about Planned
Parenthood COMMA a pro death organization? Planned Parenthood a pro
abortion organization. No, there is no disclaimer there, there is

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no adjective, There is no comma and explanation. Cincinnati Write
to Life COMMA an anti abortion organization. Even though their
name says pro life, doesn't say anything about anti abortion.
They're going to add that phrase to it. And this
is one of the things that we see in terms
of journalism and the way they twist things, they turn things,

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and then they just regurgitate what they are handed and
they just don't even put any thought behind it and
even think about what the hell it is that they're
reporting coming up. I want to talk it a little
bit about this. I've been involved over the last several weeks.
I got contacted by a person I knew about twenty
years ago. He's doing this podcast and ask me if

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I'd participate in it because they needed a conservative voice.
Oh boy, boy, do I have my work cut out
for me?

Speaker 3 (16:04):
AnyWho?

Speaker 2 (16:04):
I phone numbers five one, three, seven, four, nine, fifty
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Speaker 3 (16:17):
See the talk station.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
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uh to clouds moving in slight chance of rain. Look
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Speaker 3 (17:02):
Well, she's you watch the Bengals yesterday?

Speaker 2 (17:06):
It seems to be one of the top headlines on
every one of the newscasts. We'll go through the different
stories in the different local media, and wow, what a
heartbreaking loss. I got home yesterday after that Right to
Life function over in Northern Kentucky, well in Northern Kentucky
where I live, and got home basically in time to

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start watching the gag. Actually, the game had been on
and think into the first quarter and whatnot, and I
told myself I wasn't gonna watch because I had a
lot of show prep that I wanted to do some
things loose ends I needed to tie up. I was
making phone calls pretty much well starting Friday, and getting
in touch with people, and then you start playing telephone
tag and then they call you when you're in the shower,
and then you call them back and they're doing stuff,

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and so really, until three point thirty this morning, I
hadn't nailed down my last guests. So it was interesting
to say the lead beast. But uh so I got
home and I had a couple of messages from a
couple of the guests and we needed to talk about
some things. So I talked to them and returned a
couple of phone calls to people that called me and

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so on. So by that time I started watching the game,
and I kept saying well I'm gonna you know, I'm
not gonna watch, not gonna watch.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
But of course, you know, I feel like I feel like.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Mark Mike, Michael Corleone, you know, Godfather three. You know,
just when I think I'm getting out, they pull me
back in. Well, they just did enough just to keep
the pique my interest to the point where you know,
you see the you know, a missed h extra point,
you see a miss blocking assignment, you see this and

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so on, and then what they refer to as a
heartbreaking loss there at the end, and uh allowing that
field well to pass interference. Well, quite honestly, I don't
think that was past interference. He was going for the ball.
As a matter of fact, the guy kind of ran
into him. I guess you could have called it either
way in my opinion, and was and you know, so

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they you know, it's ever so you know, it just
seems that every time you turn around, you know, we
keep hearing the same thing over and over and over
again in the National Football League, in baseball, in the
very that the referees become the story, not the players
on the field, and it just irritates the hell.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
Out of me.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
That's what's going on there. Hey, let's get to our
first phone call. Let's talk to a dick. Dick, how
are you A long time? No see no long long time,
no talk to you.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
How are you?

Speaker 2 (19:37):
I'm doing just great. I'm behind the microphone. Brian's off,
so it doesn't get any better for me.

Speaker 5 (19:44):
Well, you know something, I.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
Know what you was going to say. You've missed me.

Speaker 5 (19:50):
Yes, all right, I'm telling you to your point and
everything going. And I didn't like that call either. I
didn't like that call. Uh it was it was just
you could see and I said, you know what if
now they're going to you know, yeah, just but I
want to say something though. I was listening to the

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postgame show with Tom Brendaman and chickwood with they were happier.
I think Burrow looked pretty good yesterday, don't you.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
Oh yeah, he looked on target. He looked like he
was with it. Now, of course he needs to do
a little bit better ball control because he did have
that fumble, and you need to clutch the ball a
little bit tighter because you know they're going to go
for it. And once you get the reputation of somebody
that will fumble, they will make you fumble.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
So yeah, but you.

Speaker 5 (20:41):
Know, I think they can build on this. Now, you know,
I think they can build on this, and they should
next Monday night beat the Commanders.

Speaker 6 (20:49):
They could.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Yeah, we hope, so we hope.

Speaker 5 (20:54):
Someone to tell you to one of my friends. He's
known as Uh. He's uh.

Speaker 6 (21:02):
Dave, Dave from Dayton, and he's uh.

Speaker 5 (21:05):
He brings me a lot of stuff.

Speaker 6 (21:07):
His family works at art Grass and he buys me
these uh from Rowley. See, he gets me these jerseys
like with Bengals, and he gets an embroidered and he
puts stick from Dayton on there.

Speaker 5 (21:19):
How about that?

Speaker 3 (21:20):
That's awesome? That is a yeah.

Speaker 5 (21:23):
But I just wanted to say though, you know, uh,
I think the Bengals are gonna be okay, I really do.
And you know, it was nice to hear he was
with Chick Pudwick. Now, Chick I knew down here in
Dayton one of my favorites. And uh, Tom, not Tom Brenneman.
To hear Tom Brenneman back, you.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
Know that is good. Yeah, I was just talking about a.

Speaker 5 (21:45):
Lot of music. I'm gonna have to come down to
the studio and play you know.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Cool sounds good to me. Hey, Tom, coming up on
a break here, I gotta get going. But great hearing
from you, and you have a great day and great
hearing you. It's been a long time since I've talked
to you. Uh, Kelly up, give me give me the
phone numbers five one, three, seven, four nine, fifty five
hundred one, eight hundred eight two three talk one eight
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Speaker 7 (22:16):
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Speaker 2 (22:28):
Five thirty nine in the morning. Kevin Gordon in for
Brian Thomas, fifty five k r C the Talk Station.
I mentioned previous segment that I got contacted by a
guy that I knew or met about twenty years ago
when I first started getting on the air and doing
some radio and stuff way back in the day. But uh,

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and I surprised guy still had my phone number. But
he called me and he said he was doing this
podcast with a guy from the Since I inquirer and
I want to know if I wanted to participate. They
were looking for a conservative, and I'm thinking, you know,
of off the top of my head, I'm thinking, Okay,
you've been around, you've been doing some radio for the
last twenty This other guy, he's been doing radio for

(23:13):
twenty some years, and the only conservative he could think about,
the only conservative that he's met in the last twenty years,
was me. I mean, you know, not that I'm not
that I'm opposed to it, It just kind of, in
my opinion, kind.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
Of shows the.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
Ven ear or lack of intellectual curiosity, if you will,
in terms of other people out there. I mean, right
off the top of my head, I can think of
in the last twenty years a dozen or so of
liberals that I have either dealt with, talked to, had

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on the program, or worked with on a particular issue,
and the biggest one being you know, I've talked about
this before. I don't want to go too much in
detail on it, but remember the whole concept or the
whole idea back in twenty thirteen about tolling the Brent
Spence Bridge and that they had to build this right here,
right now. And I've been I was part of a

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group that stopped the tolls on the Brent Spence Bridge,
we called it, you know, tolls or taxes and whatever.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
As part of our group. One of the.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
People that got involved was an avowed socialist. I mean,
she was a Bernie. She is a Bernie Sanders supporter,
and we're friends on Facebook. She doesn't you know, she
doesn't attack me, and so I don't attack her. So
we just you know, whatever. But she was one of
the spokespeople for the organization and as far as nailing

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the Chamber of Commerce whenever they had come up with
something ridiculous, I mean, she was spot on. And we've
talked and we've had several conversations that except for this
one issue, there is no reason that either one of
us should ever even talk to each other or be
in the same room.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
And yet I still, as.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
Far as this particular issue, she was fantastic, and I
have a lot of respect for other than you know,
her political leanings. Her and I met so many different
people as a result of that, and so I will
talk to if we can find common ground on a
particular item, I will work with anybody on that to

(25:31):
solve a particular problem, and then we can go away
and fight later on about other things. But to be
called after twenty years, he could think of any other conservative.
So anyway, I've been participating in this for the last
few weeks. This past Friday, he decided to take it
live and you know, do the comments on the side.

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And I'm telling you what debating liberals is just amaze
the thought process that goes into their minds in terms
of how they process information. It seems that, and people

(26:13):
have talked about this on numerous occasions, it is so
hard to be a conservative. You have to study the issue,
you have to know the issue, and you have to
be able to discuss the issue. Being a liberal, all
you have to do is have feelings. I feel this,
or I feel this, or you can just get a
talking point no matter how many times it's been debunked,

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and you can throw that out into conversation, just in
the conversations that we've had. In fact, well this past
conversation on Friday, the whole idea of this. You know,
Kamala Harris during the debate talking about the damn teap
tiki torches and the find people on both sides, and

(26:58):
I said, are you kidding me? After seven and a
half years, Snopes not a conservative organization, Probably one of
the most left leaning organizations around actually finally said that
this is a hoax that listening to the entire comments

(27:18):
that Trump made at that time, he did not call
the Nazis fine people. And this guy says, I heard
him say it, And I'm saying, did you hear the
whole conversation? Did you hear what was said before? And
the fact that he said, I'm not talking about these people,

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but there were fine people, and then we're talking, of
course about Charlottesville, and it's like once something's in their brain. Man,
I mean, no wonder Kamala Harris was able to get
away with all the lies that she did and of
course never fact checked by ABC. I counted what seven
eight times that she lied as a matter of fact,
anybody out there and that talks about Trump's convictions of

(28:02):
thirty four convictions, that's thirty four lies right there. Because
until somebody is actually sentenced, It is my understanding from
the people that I've talked to. And again, if you're
in a turney out there and you can correct this,
I'd like to hear from you, But until you were sentenced,
your conviction does not stand because until sentencing, the judge

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actually has the option of throwing that verdict doubt and
acquitting you of all charges that, in his opinion, they
didn't rise to the level of a conviction. And so
you know, all this nonsense, and let's face it, I mean,
starting in twenty fifteen, they spied on his campaign, they
tried to tie him as a Russian agent, they did

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the whole Russia hoax, they tried to impeach him, they've
tried to bankrupt him, and now they're trying to kill him.
And if anybody thinks that this isn't something that is intentional,
I you know, I'm you have a tough time when
somebody keeps saying that somebody is hitler, that somebody is

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an existential threat to democracy, that this man, when we
will do anything to keep him out of that office.
That reminds me of going back to twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen,
the insurance program, the insurance plan by Peter Struck and
Lisa Page and the entire FBI. Yeah, okay, if you're

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saying comments like we will do everything to keep him
out of office, I take them at their word. Everything
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Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas, fifty five kr C
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(30:12):
wife and I, uh, this is so weird. Our birthdays
are are about eight days apart, and my birthday's the
end of August, or is the first part of September.
Now you kind of give you an idea of what
goes on in our lives. We said, okay, you know what,
We're gonna take a kind of a combined thing. Will

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we'll go out to dinner and maybe we'll go to
we'll go to a movie and you know, depending on
what order, go to the movie and go to dinner,
or go to a movie, or go to dinner and
then go to a movie.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
And we were.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Looking around for different movies to look and of course,
you know, I'm not gonna look at some of the
garbages out there. It was interested in maybe going and
watching the movie Reagan. I've heard a lot of people
have great reviews on that, which again gives you an
idea of the liberal bias and the media. According to
Rotten Tomatoes, they pan that movie, they hate it ninety

(31:05):
eight percent, and yet the people that watch it and
have seen it are loving it by ninety eight percent.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
It is the widest gap.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Maybe not have their numbers wrong, maybe it's eighty three
percent of Rotten tomnice, but whatever, it is the largest
gap between the critics and the fans in the history
of movies. The other movie out there that I wanted
to we were talking about watching going to see is
am I Racist? That is that a movie with Matt

(31:37):
Walsh and where he goes under cover and he you know,
if you've seen any of his videos and stuff, they're
kind of hilarious, kind of pointing the craziness on the left,
And we talked about seeing that. But the weird thing
is is that some of these times are so kind
of you know, it would be great to go to
dinner and then go to a movie at like seven

(32:00):
or something like that. But these movies, at least the
ones that we were looking at in the times, maybe
it'll change, but are like at six thirty and then
goes to eight. Eight is a little bit too late
to eat, depending upon some of the restaurants and stuff.
But then again four o'clock for us is a little
too early. But anyway, but I bring this up because
there seems to be a pushback now that they're the

(32:23):
cancel culture. The left is attacking. See, you know, you
can't have a right wing you can have a conservative
first of all, you know it started. You can't have
conservatives coming to campus. God forbid that the liberals actually
hear a conservative thought on a campus, because that will

(32:44):
just trigger them. So you can't even have the movie now.
Because I saw this over the weekend. It said that
dell Oro Theater, I don't know where the hell that is,
but it's Prime Cinemas.

Speaker 9 (32:58):
Do to a.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
These strong reactions from our community for and against the film,
I'm gonna throw the BS flag on this one, my friends,
because if somebody has a strong reaction for the film,
don't you think that they would run the film? And
concerns for the well being of our staff, we will

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not be playing the film. Am I racist? As originally intended?
Please know that it was not our intention to cause
such division by playing the film. We noticed that many
of the theaters in Sacramento area were booked to play
this film, and quite frankly, this reaction caught us off guard.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
The safety of our staff is.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Our number one priority BS, and this is what conservatives
are up against. If you want to, if you're a
young person, and if you're a parent of a young
person or the grandparent of a young person, tell them
if they want to be a rebel, put on a
maga hat, support concern privative causes and go to school.

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You want to talk about being a rebel these days,
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Four minutes after six o'clock.

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Brian is off today doing Brianny things, and I'm here
happy Monday to you. We're talking at a previous hour
about some of the stuff's going on this past weekend,
and of course we need to touch on this latest
assassination attempt at Donald Trump. Just yesterday I had mentioned yesterday,
had mentioned in the previous hour that I had been

(35:27):
at a pro life function over in Northern Kentucky, Northern
Kentucky Right to Life, and just a fantastic function, and
the speaker was just incredible. It's like every time I
attend one of these functions, whether it's care Net, which
is an organization that helps women with crisis pregnancies, to

(35:47):
give them the assistance and make sure that they can
have the resources going forward to make the right decision
as far as their child is concerned, and to offer
medical treatment and recommend and areas for them and help
basically support and push them in the right show them
the right direction, and put them in touch with resources

(36:08):
that can help them throughout their pregnancy and then on
into giving childbirth all the way. I mean to make
the decision if they want to give the child up
for adoption or whatever, help them with that process as well.
But again, talking to these different organizations and being involved
in these organizations, and when I go to these banquets banquets,
you always learn something new, You learn something new about somebody,

(36:30):
You learn the individual speaker, and the speaker yesterday a
fellow by the name of Stephen W.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
Moser.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
I'm going to have him on the program at some
point in time next time I fill in. But he's
with the president of Population Research Institute and a gentleman
that was an atheist very much in the doing work
in China, by witnessing what went on there with their

(37:01):
one child policy, became pro life, converted to Catholicism, and
has been a pro life advocate along.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
And again, when I.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
Talked about last hour, that one of the things that
I usually say to people is that if your pro choice,
you just haven't thought about the issue long enough. So anyway,
but talking about this, and then of course during that
function yesterday, it started at one o'clock and some presentations
and stuff, and then the speaker started at two o'clock.

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And of course you know that around one point thirty
yesterday there was another assassination attempt on Donald Trump, and
so start I started noticing texts coming in off my phone,
you know, saying that Trump was safe and so on.
So I didn't leave the function in order to read it.
But I was reading some of the text while I
was there, and it is amazing to me. And the

(37:55):
rhetoric hasn't stopped. I touched on this a little bit
last that and of course, you know, I have an opinion.
I'm not afraid to use it. And I think all
this rhetoric has an intended purpose. When you keep referring
to somebody as Hitler, when you keep referring to somebody
as Mussolini, when you keep saying that somebody is an

(38:16):
existential threat to democracy, when you keep saying that we
have to do everything in our power to make sure
that this man never gets to the White House, what
the hell is supposed What do you expects.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
Going to happen?

Speaker 2 (38:33):
And for the left, for the news media, for the
spoon fed regurgitators in the mainstream media to keep repeating
those lines. How can you think that they're not hoping
for something. You saw some of the tweets. I'm sure
after that first assassination attempt that some of the campaign people,

(39:00):
of course they were fired, said stuff like, hey, don't
miss the next time, and stuff like that, put the
shoe on the other foot. Can you imagine? Can you
even imagine all of the talking points, all the stuff
that would be said if the shoe was on the
other foot. How many times do you see when something happens?

(39:25):
How many times when a stupid comment is made or
somebody makes a comment, and then everybody from the head
of the RNC, Donald Trump all the way down even
to the dog catcher in some po dunk town somewhere

(39:49):
has to make amends. Or the first question, well, do
you condemn this type of rhetoric? Do you condemn this?
Do you condemn that? Do you condemn this? And it's like,
move along, okay, I'm not going to answer the question.

Speaker 11 (40:05):
Yet.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
If a liberal were to be asked that question, they'll
say something like and something that was an obvious news cycle.
I'll say, gee, I'm not aware that that happened. I'm
not aware that that happened, So I can't really speak
to that. So I'm gonna have to look on to
that and I'll have to get back to you. And
it is just insidious the way the left will pounce

(40:26):
on something. Just imagine if the shoe was on the
other foot, would they be saying the same things about
what they're saying here? You know, last night before I
went to bed, actually well actually right before I went
to bed, hit this headline from NBC news. Man in
custody after Trump golf club incident was once convicted of

(40:50):
possessing a machine gun. Golf club incident.

Speaker 12 (40:57):
From Bloomberg.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
Suspect and Trump incident is fifty eight year old Ryan Ruth,
according to officials.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
According to The Daily Beast, who is alleged.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Trump golf course gunman, whyan Rest Wesley Ruth alleged Trump
golf course gunman. Well, if somebody just goes on the
golf course and has a gun and he's shooting, no,
this was an assassination attempt. USA today, Oh, the lovely
Gannett news service, and I'm sure the Inquirer will pick

(41:29):
this headline up and run with it. Shots fired near
Trump Live updates after golf course shooting shots fired near
Trumps just unbelievable. And the fact that this rhetoric continues,
the fact that the news media or the spoon fed

(41:52):
regurgitators in the mainstream media won't call this out for
what it is and call an end and ask every
Democratic candidate to condemn this, get them on the record
to condemn this, to tell them, don't you think it's
time to start pulling back on the rhetoric. No, because

(42:13):
the spoon fed regurgitators in the mainstream media, who are
the Democratic or who are the journalists, Not journalists, but
the news division or the propaganda arm of the DNC,
they're all in on this.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
They're all into this. Did you happen to.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
Catch the interview with Dana Bash talking about how when
Kamala Harris and her support dog Tim Walls were on
the interview and they said, well, why don't you press
her harder on her flip flop on the issues? And
she goes, well, you know, you asked the question and

(42:52):
then you do the follow up, and you can only
press so far if they're not going to answer, how
many When you look at the interview that jd Vance
had with her for the first ten minutes, all she
talked about was one particular item all she she kept
asking the same question over and over and over again.

(43:14):
And yet when a conservative is being interviewed, they will
keep asking the same stupid question. You know, do you
condemn this? Why aren't you condemning this? How do you
defend this? How do you defend that? And instead of
asking the basic questions that you're supposed to ask.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
And it's just amazing.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
And when you watch these news programs and you see
the adjectives that are added, when you look at how
somebody is portrayed, or a phrase that is thrown in
there that you kind of and they throw it in
there so quickly that you don't Sometimes you don't catch it,

(43:53):
but so many times I'll be listening. I mean, you know,
they used to talk about Walter Cronkite being the godfather
of journalism, that he was the most trusted man in
the United States, and all this sorts of the best
newsman out there.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
Even him.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
I can remember watching the news with my mom and
she'll say, well, well, look at what he just said there,
look at how the adged the extra adjective that he
threw in there, and look at the facial expression. Look
at the way you know, the tone of voice changes
when he's talking about this particular story versus this particular story.
And it was always involved. If there's a conservative that

(44:28):
you know, he would have a different tone of voice.
And you pick this up when you're when you're keen
to it and you know what to look for. You
see this all the time and when they and you know,
we don't even have There has not been one press
conference by the Secret Service since the since the assassination

(44:49):
attempt of Trump, what sixty four now sixty five days ago,
no press conference. And yet if there's a school shooter
within a half hour, we know every social media account,
we know everything that they've said, we know who they are,

(45:11):
we know what their background is, we know everything about them.
We still don't know about the shooter in Pennsylvania. We
still don't know that person. We don't have all the
details the failures of the Secret Service.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
On that day.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
The only thing we're getting is from any of the whistleblowers. Now,
what does that say. Nobody's lost their job. And Donald
Trump during the debate pointed out and one of the
things that's lost on all the idiots that are talking
about this debate and talking about I mean, yeah, Donald
Trump did not do a great job that night. And yes,

(45:48):
I think there were a couple a lot of opportunities
where he could have just done the knockout punch or whatever,
but he didn't do it, and I fall to him
for that. But when he makes comments and certain things
that the media isn't picking up on, and the media
isn't saying this, or isn't saying that that was lost,

(46:10):
and the fact that nobody has been fired in this administration.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
Nobody was fired for.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
The debacle in Afghanistan. Thirteen people were thirteen service members
were killed as a result of the failure to act
properly and do that was all properly. Thirteen servicemen were killed,
and I think what was the number, one hundred and
sixty Afghan civilians were killed, and a lot of our

(46:37):
soldiers were harmed, maimed and wounded. And yet nobody got
fired for that. Nobody's gotten fired for the invasion at
the border. Nobody has been fired on the economic team
in terms of this rampant inflation, no accountability, and as

(46:58):
I've said for a long period of time, being a
liberal means never having to say you're sorry. Phone number
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Of course, we're talking a lot about this is latest
assassination attempt from on President Trump and former President Trump.

(48:00):
And you know, Eric Trump kind of hit the nail
on the head. How many lives does his father have?

Speaker 3 (48:09):
Does he? Is he? You know? How many?

Speaker 2 (48:11):
You know, you talk about cats having nine lives. This
almost seems as though that there doesn't seem to be
as though that the Secret Service or the FBI or
any of these organizations are taking this seriously. It appears
as though that they are not what do you want

(48:33):
to say, have their finger on the pulse or concerned
about this? They're not changing. Did you I don't know
if you happen to catch one of the one of
the press conferences. I didn't catch the guy's name, but
he's there in the press conference, and apparently somebody was
asking him, well, how is this happening or or or

(48:57):
why wasn't this there? And he said, well, he's not
the president, and he doesn't get the level of Secret
Service protection that the president would get.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
Are you kidding me? You've got three people.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
You've got you know, Biden, who by some all but
supposedly is still in charge. You've got Kamala Harris, and
you've got Donald Trump. You got three of the most
the top people in terms of running for office or
currently occupying the office. And you mean to tell me

(49:35):
that that's not one of.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
The top priorities.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
That if he were president, there would be a perimeter
around the golf course, that there would be people stationed
out there, that they would be doing these things and
not just willy nilly just doing the very You don't
even know if it's even the basics. When I heard
that there was a Secret Service agent that was walking

(50:03):
ahead of the.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
Golf party.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
Because if you're not familiar with what happened, Donald Trump
was out on the golf course with a friend and
they were playing golf, and they were on the fifth hole,
and he was getting ready to do a putt and
that's when Secret Service started coming at him and you know,
tackled him, covered him up, and rushing him off.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
The golf course.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
There was a advance officer Secret Service officer that was
walking ahead by a couple of well to the next
hole one. No police dogs on either side of the
course going through and seeing if there's any explosive devices

(50:56):
or or seeking out anybody or anything along those lines. Folks,
this is like the Keystone cops. I mean, this is
not even you know, if you listen to certain security
people talk about this issue and they say, this is
so amateurish that it's almost as laughable. If it weren't

(51:18):
for the fact that this man is the hopefully the
next president of the United States, this would be laughable.
To not have the trained dogs along the course to
be sniffing this stuff out, to not be scouring social media.
I mean, the FBI was able to find all these

(51:42):
rioters at the Capitol fifteen hundred and some grandmas who
were just standing in there praying. I mean, no investigation
to this point of how many FBI undercover agents were
actually stoking the crowd on that day.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
It just boggles my mind. And the fact that this
guy would have.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
The other So why don't you just telegraph to the world,
and especially there's an Iranian threat?

Speaker 3 (52:15):
There has been.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
A FBI Director Ray has said that there is an
Iranian threat to assassinate Donald Trump. That's not on your
high priority list that you're telegraphing to everybody that well,
you know, he has basically the minimum security that's necessary.
Now if he were president, he'd have a little bit

(52:37):
more security. Are you freaking kidding me? Phone numbers five one, three, seven,
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I mean, is anybody outraged by this? Is anybody else
concerned about this? Is this on anybody else's mind? Anyway,

(52:57):
we'll pick this up on the other side of the break.
I'm Kevin Gore.

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One three, seven, four nine fifty eight hundred eight two
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five five or pound five fifty on that AT and
T wireless phone. Looking at some of the headlines. I'm
just scanning, you know, scanning some of the headlines. I'm
seeing this from the Daily Mail. You get this son
of alleged would be assassin Ryan Wesley Ruth says his

(53:43):
dad hates Trump like all reasonable people, but he's never
owned a gun and wouldn't do any bat I guess
backcrap crazy? Oh really, well, what was the article before
where he was possibly convicted of having a machine gun
or something along those lines? The you know, how did

(54:08):
he have weapons with him? How did he you know
what this isn't He's not a gunman, He's not the gunman.
He wasn't there was it just a plant by somebody?
Like reason all reasonable people. The Trump derangement syndrome in
this country is just insane. When they talk about what

(54:33):
Trump will do, how Trump is going to govern, do
they forget that he was president for four years. What
was the economy like prior to the pandemic, And make
no mistake about this, more and more it is looking
like it was a pandemic. Look at the stock market

(54:54):
prior to that. Look at the jobs numbers, Look at
the economy, Look at the GDP, Look at how strong
the economy was. We were energy independent for the first
time since nineteen forty nine. In twenty twenty, oil was
down around five dollars or fifty dollars a barrel.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
Iran was going broke.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
Russia was going broke because they couldn't make money pumping
oil and selling it on the open market for fifty
dollars a barrel. Nobody in this world, with the exception
possibly of Norway, drills for oil cleaner, cheaper, more energy
efficient than we do in the United States. And for

(55:38):
the Biden administration to come in shut down the Keystone
XL pipeline on day one, stop drilling on federal lands,
stop selling leases, which by law they're supposed to do.
But again, you can't let laws get in the way
of a good story or.

Speaker 9 (55:53):
For in.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
An administration, Look at what was going Did we have
any wars going on anywhere? Was Russia and isn't it
interesting that Russia invaded Crimea, or as Maxine Waters calls it,
Korea back in twenty twelve during the Obama administration, And

(56:16):
then they've got troops on the border, and Biden says, well,
as long as there's a minor incursion, we may not
do anything. A minor incursion. Define minor incursion. Fifteen twenty
thirty forty people, ten towns overtaken, a mile invasion, two
miles invasion. What the hell kind of thing is that?

(56:38):
Do you think October seventh, the attack on Israel would
have happened under Trump's watch? Do you think the thirteen
Marines are thirteen members of our military that were killed
at Abbigate and the pullout of Afghanistan would have happened?
Have you seen the clip that Brian Donald and I
can't think of the other guy's name off the top

(56:59):
of my head, but there's a video where they're talking
to Sage Steel and they were talking about a moment
where Donald Trump was negotiating with the Taliban and said
that if you harm a hair of a military of
a US military soldier, we will take you and gave

(57:19):
him a picture, a satellite photo of the guy's home
and he walked out of the meeting. I mean they
were dumbfounded, the interpreter according to their comments, and I think,
maybe we'll see if we can find that clip somewhere,
but they it was incredible that, you know, Kim Jong un,

(57:41):
look at the number of rockets that were filed fired
in the last year of the Trump administration, and look
at the number of rockets that have been fired since
there have been days where there have been these test
rockets that North Korea have been doing. I mean it
is in the dozens. It is, you know, dozens per

(58:02):
year were in the last year the Trump administration, there
was like five or six seven that were fired. There
was there was peace in the Middle East, there was
moving toward with the Abraham Accords. And yet the Biden
administration comes in, We're on the verge of World War three.
He allowed Russia to invade Ukraine, and make no mistake

(58:25):
about it. NATO could have stopped it, the UN could
have stopped it. They could have put troops on the border.
They could have said no. But with the Biden administration
coming into office, lifting the stopping the production of oil
in the country, a lot of production of the oil.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
Oil prices got up to the seventy eighty.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
Ninety dollars a barrel now and then releasing all the
funds to Iran, the state's sponsor of terror. They have
had over one hundred billion dollars that they have earned
under the Biden administration, and they were almost broke under
the Trump administration. Russia is flushed with cash now that
they can buy weapons and invade other countries because they
have the money to do that. Iran can send money

(59:10):
to their proxies, the Hutis and Yemen Uh, the Hezbollah
in the northern part of Israel, Hamas at the southern
end of Israel. And yet, well, we're supposed to ignore
all this, and we're supposed to say that, oh, well,
we're supposed to forget that went on during the four years.
Was he a dictator then? Was he a uh? Anyway,

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I thought I had I thought I saw a call
up there on the call screen. But continuing on this

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discussion as far as this latest assassination attempt, and it
seems that the rhetoric from the left is not slowing down,
and it is becoming clearer and clearer and clearer that
in my opinion, I don't know how you can come

(01:01:47):
to any other conclusion when you keep talking about somebody
being an existential threat and just break down. The word
existential threat means that they are a threat to the
existence of something. So when you hear something being an
existential threat to climate change, that isn't a or to

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the climate.

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
That is.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
An attack or a threat to the existence of climate.
The threat to democracy an existential threat to the existence
of democracy. We've had this guy in office for four years?
Did he destroy democracy then? And the lies that are
perpetuated about January the sixth are just absolutely astounding.

Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
Let's go to the phone.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
Let's talk to Bobby, Bobby fifty five K see thanks
for calling.

Speaker 3 (01:02:40):
How are you this morning.

Speaker 15 (01:02:42):
I'm doing great, my frame. Good to hear from you again.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
I don't know, I'm perplexed, I am, I am confused.
I'm not confused. I'm not surprised by what I'm seeing.
I'm not surprised by what the left is trying to
pull off here.

Speaker 15 (01:02:59):
But anyway, well, I'll give you my opinion. And it's
just one of many people have to realize. And I've
said this for a long time, we are in the
midst of a cultural revolution. Anytime in the world, any
place you've ever in history, anytime you have something like that,
it's a prelude to war. People don't know the difference

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between a friend and a foe, and an adversary and
an enemy. People need to make that determination of who
they're around. Well, when it's not getting me better.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
Yeah, I mean, when you've got a media which is
just an extension of the Democratic Party, when you have people,
you know, when you look at the suppression on Google,
how many times now do you search for something on
Google and it's and the only choices are something that

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you didn't even ask for. You can't get a straight answer.
You have to go to different sources to get the
information when you post something now on Facebook, and ever
since the twenty twenty election, when they started suppressing that,
they're not sending these things out, they're fact checking, they're

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putting the pixeling over things. You can't even I mean
nine to eleven photos. You can't even post a picture
of somebody hanging out of the burning building because this
is too sensitive to the people. And isn't it amazing
that every one of these things that they're caught doing,

(01:04:38):
in terms of suppressing conservative thought or suppressing this particular story,
seems to only go one way. It never goes the
opposite way. It's never the liberal thought that's being suppressed.

Speaker 15 (01:04:51):
When you have ABCCBS, MSNBC, NBC, New York Times, Washington Post,
the Seven Deadly Sins, it's the Joseph Gerbels media network.
And that's how I feel about it. And people are naive,
they don't know the dangers and everything this is causing
our country, and it will explode eventually when one or

(01:05:13):
twenty or two hundred of these illegals that we got
in this country that are going to do harm to us.
And it's coming. Yeah, people were not prepared. They're not
prepared for the seventy two hour window. They're not prepared
for the water and electricity going out. They're not prepared
for seemens having an eighteen month of EAD time on transformers.
They're they're just living in a dream world.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
Yeah, for sure. And you know people are being the
Paul Revere's out there. They're giving the warnings. They're talking
about the infrastructure that isn't strong enough. You talk about
I mean, look back at nine to eleven and so on,
when you started seeing some of these water treatment plans

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all that all of a sudden, the security that had
to go with them. We are so unprepared for uh,
terrorist attacks.

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
It's not even it's not even funny at this point.
But anyway, Bobby Brother, all right, I appreciate, I appreciate
the phone call. You have a safe day and be
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we go. Let's talk to Dave. Dave fifty five, how
are you this morning? Thanks for calling in.

Speaker 9 (01:07:04):
Hey, Kevin.

Speaker 17 (01:07:04):
Always great when you're in there too. This is uh,
it's kind of like when uh, like on five fifth, uh,
when you have a normal call in show like it
used to be, Rush Limball will be out and and
you'd be like, oh gosh, who's this guy. He's always
a drop off the town. But when we go from
Brian Thomas to you, you feel like, hey, well the
ship is still moving, moving all ahead, full So glad

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to have you here.

Speaker 3 (01:07:27):
Thanks, I appreciate it. I try all right, well.

Speaker 9 (01:07:31):
Here's what yeah, there there you go.

Speaker 17 (01:07:33):
So here's what I get it that as you say,
it's it's really they've hyped up the rhetoric to an
ungodly amount, to the point where he's a threat of democracy.
And I think most Americans all they ask of their
media is make it fair. If COVID is so bad
that no one can go outside, we shouldn't be able
to go outside for Black Lives Matter, uh, you know, protests,

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let alone when you have so many Black Lives Matter riots. Meanwhile,
all we still keep hearing about to this day is
January sixth. I mean, how could they not think that
there's a threat to democracy when the plain focus that
Trump is is January sixth, while they ignore all these
all the riots that took place in twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
Looks actually, well, Dave, look at all the violations of
the COVID lockdown, that Nancy Pelosi getting her hair done,
Gavin Newsom going and partying with his friends.

Speaker 17 (01:08:28):
Megan Whitmer, Megan Whitmer's.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
Husband, Yeah, yeah, poor, Yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:08:33):
I mean, it's just one of the quietest coups that
have ever been pulled off in history. Were literally they
may I mean, I think you go back and look now,
it's very obvious they were putting the debate in June
so that they could see, let's see how Biden handles it.
We want to make sure it's late enough when we're
past the primary, so we can drop Kamala right in,
but without having to run against anyone else. But at

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the same time, just do an immediate replacement. And that
goes again Democracy. There are people who should have had
the opportunity to vote for replacement for Biden, and they
didn't get it exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
And look at the situation there too. Six months before
the coup, how many people in the Democratic Party were saying,
we got to get rid of this woman. We've got
to find a different running mate for Joe's She's just
not cutting it. Her poll numbers are horrendous. And then
all of a sudden they staged this palace coup and

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everybody jumps on board.

Speaker 3 (01:09:31):
What a breath of fresh air.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
It's almost like, oh, she dropped out of the sky
like some sort of Obama like messiah type of thing,
and she's the greatest thing since pockets were invented. And
yet the media isn't concerned about being dissed for what
now how many is it now? Fifty six days without
an interview. She's just basically given them the middle finger

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and saying you're irrelevant.

Speaker 17 (01:09:57):
And meanwhile, it was not but a few before that
we heard that Joe Biden was all he's sharp as ever,
sharp as attack. And then I asked you if we
were to put up a poll a week before he
stepped down and said, all right, here's the people. Whittmer
knew some Cali out in Arizona, Shapiro in Pennsylvania, and Kamala.

(01:10:20):
Who would you pick it, or even throw in Bernie
Sanders for that matter, who would you pick as your representative?
You and I and the American people know that Kamala
would probably wouldn't even get in the top three. No,
if she would have gotten in the top three, she
wouldn't have been kicked out in twenty twenty when she
was running against Biden.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
Yeah, and the fact that they've perpetrated the biggest hoax
on American public since the day he took office, the
steadied decline in his mental health, that cognitive decline, and
everybody kept saying, oh, he's the sharpestman behind the crown,

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closed door, he's sharpest.

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
Guy in the room, and so on, and it was
all alive.

Speaker 17 (01:11:05):
And he's so sharp that he couldn't stand trial. According
to their own sources. And then on top of that,
now it's like we still can't figure out who's running
the country. So he's not good enough for runder reelection,
but he is good enough to go through to the
period of January.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
And Dave, I think one of the funniest things I
heard is that he is less competent to be president
of the United States than any person that is serving
time in jail, because in order to serve time in jail,
you have to be too determined competent to stand trial.
Joe Biden wasn't even competent to stand trial, and yet
he's president and all these inmates are incarcerated. I think

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that is that is amazing.

Speaker 9 (01:11:51):
Yeah, and Kevin, I'll leave you with this.

Speaker 17 (01:11:53):
It was like this whole situation going on in Springfield, Ohio,
the media into you know, in conjunction with your sister
station over there. All they keep covering is the dogs
and cats. The reality of what the situation should be
covering is you've dropped off twenty thousand refugees and a
town of sixty thousand and one of them did kill

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in a vehicular accident a citizen of that area.

Speaker 15 (01:12:21):
Exactly, you have.

Speaker 17 (01:12:22):
To You can't just do this without a vote. If
anything was a threat to democracy, that's it, because we
should have a chance as citizens to vote.

Speaker 9 (01:12:32):
Who comes in?

Speaker 17 (01:12:33):
Why how do they get here? We need to have
a process, and for them to completely ignore that process,
that in and of itself is a threat to democracy.
You bet, Kevin. I thank you very much for your
time today.

Speaker 3 (01:12:43):
Dave, take care, have a great day. Yeah. Coming up
top down, we're gonna be talking to Ken Anderson. No,
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Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
Brian is off tonight today, so you got me happy Monday.
I want to welcome to the program friend of mine,
Ken Anderson. He is author of a couple of books
of Economic Revolution and Keyboard Alphabet. But I thought i'd
touch base with him because we have talked about oh
numerous things over the years, and one of the things

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I was interested in is his take on this coming
upcoming presidential election. Welcome to the program, ken.

Speaker 11 (01:13:53):
Well, thank you, thank you, and I appreciate this opportunity
to have another discussion with you.

Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
Yeah, I appreciate it as well well from when we
talked last, from what transpired yesterday afternoon, I guess there's
a whole new different wrinkle to this now with a
yet another assassination attempt. And you've wont to offer your
thoughts on this or.

Speaker 11 (01:14:23):
Well, definitely, First of all, I would definitely say that
these are praying times, and we are praying nation, and
we need to put aside all of our differences. I
don't care what race, or gender, or political affiliation or
non affiliation union. We need to get to rate, get

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away from all of the demographics and really come to
the Creator as a nation. And actually, I do you
know from my book Economic Revolution, I believe in a
spiritual solution to our material problems. And actually Second Chronicles
seven and fourteen says that if we go to God

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and do what you know in earnest and He will
heal our land. So there is a spiritual healing. But
it's up to us. It's up to us as an individual,
and if each individual does it, then we'll do it
as a nation. But these are paying times. I definitely
say pray for our president. There's an office now, Joe
Biden and all the candidates and our former president and

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candidate Trump as well.

Speaker 3 (01:15:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
I just it becomes more and more obvious that there
needs to be some solutions and everything needs to be
on the table. I think we have gotten so far
away from any type of spirituality, any type of moral compass,
and that needs to be reinstilled. I mean, I am

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not been the most how should I say, a church
attending religious person, but I mean there's always been that
guardrail in terms of my Catholic upbringing and certain things
as far as how you conduct your life. And it's
it's almost like, you know, we need a rebirth of
that in this nation. We need something to believe in

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other than government, which is I think pretty much what
they want us to believe in anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
So we need to.

Speaker 11 (01:16:24):
Let me interject this real quick, because you brought up
something that's very important. I'm glad you said it, because
coming up and understanding the religion and how that goes.
And then one of that's one of the things that
divides us, you know, someone the Methodism, Lutherans and all that.
But there's a difference between religion and spirituality. If I

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was dealing with religion, I have to wait till maybe
next Wednesday or whatever meeting day, we'd have to go
to church. But see, spirituality is something people could do
right now at this moment. It's nothing formal, you see,
so it's all based on individuals. So so you know,
that's a good thing that you brought up though, But
I just want to let people know you could make
that connection with the Creator yourself right now without anybody knowing.

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That's what counts.

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
Yeah, I mean, you don't need a church, you don't
need the steeple. You can you can pray anywhere you want,
and then you can put your creed into your deed
and and and act your life accordingly. So you know,
you don't need to wait till Sunday. You don't need
a Wednesday or whenever, you know, the synagogue on Saturday.
You can do it every day of the week. Sir,

(01:17:31):
we want I want to talk a little bit about
this third party factor. You know, when we look at
the third party candidates there. You know, it's interesting that
the the party that talks about who is an existential
threat to democracy, how much they are trying to do
to keep certain candidates that may hurt them off the

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ballot in all these different states.

Speaker 3 (01:17:57):
And I you know, it appears as.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Though I keep seeing almost every day another third party candidate,
whether it's Jill Stein or Cornell West, going to be
added to the ballots in certain states. How do you
see this shaking out as far as that is there
enough there or the Democrats really that concerned about it, or.

Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
How do you see this?

Speaker 11 (01:18:24):
Well, you know, you bring up some good points, because
I think the first thing is when RFK Jr. When
he stepped out of the race and he endorsed former
President Trump. That was a huge move because I believe
at the time he was pulling about nine percent, maybe
close to ten percent at that point, and that's enough

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to sway an election. If you look back at Ross
Perrot both times he ran, he got enough to swing
the election in favor of Clinton somewhere saying that he
was like Clinton's low uncle or something like that. So
a third party candidacy can be very important Now in

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this particular case with Cornell West, this could actually cause
Vice President Harris some problems in Michigan because they both
appealed to the same anti Israel Hamas sector of the
Democratic wing. And there are some people they're really kind

(01:19:31):
of ticked off with Harris. But I think more than
them being ticked off with Harris, it's more they don't
trust her. That is a is a main And see,
I don't know if the Republican Party had picked up
on this. I talked to some young people in one
of the things that came really it surprised me. This
young man said he looked at debate. At the debate,

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he said, well, I thought I think that President Trump won.
I'm thinking, like, okay, I didn't understand it.

Speaker 9 (01:19:58):
And so he was. He was saying.

Speaker 11 (01:20:01):
The reason why is because even though he came off
as bombastic talking about things, you know, whatever, but even
though he came off as unhinged so to speak, he
came off as authentic, he said, where she came off
as fake, and he came off as like a parent,
like knowing seeing danger in front of them for someone

(01:20:24):
that he loves. And he's saying, hey, you're approaching the
you know, danger and the coursure you get the danger,
the more frantic they get. And he said that's the
reason why he is so charged right now, because he
really sees that if we don't make the right decisions,
it could be catastrophic for our economy.

Speaker 2 (01:20:46):
You know, I was on air that night doing my
other show, America's Truck, a network that, by the way,
goes from midnight to one am Tuesday through Friday on WLW.
But I was in the studio doing getting ready to
do the show prep and stuff, and I was watching
the debate, and I was taking notes, and I was
taking frantic you know, I was trying to keep up

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and and I'm you know, I don't do shorthands, so
I was writing stuff down and listening to debate and everything.
So when the debate was over, I was really upset
that the fact that, in my opinion, Donald Trump didn't
do the knockout punch as he should have. He didn't
take opportunity and correct the record and actually even challenge

(01:21:29):
the moderators for not fact checking her and so on.
But when I went back through and I started looking
at my notes, I was surprised at the points that
he did make that were glossed over by the analysis afterwards.
And now I've seen some comments from some people that
if you read the transcript of the debate, it is

(01:21:51):
so one sided towards Trump. It's not funny because you know,
you take away the facial expression, she take away the giggling,
the laughing, the so on her evading reading what she
actually her answers, there was no substance there, and all
the substance was over on Trumps side. And I you know,

(01:22:15):
I've heard those analysis and it's kind of amazing. And
when you look at some of the polling with some
of these independents that like the gentleman you were talking to,
that's see, that's they saw a lot better than I
think the people that are too close to the trees.

Speaker 11 (01:22:32):
Yeah. I think a lot of times we, you know,
we are really kind of blinded by the partisan lens
is that we look through whether it's intentional or unintentional,
and real quick, just to give you an idea of
a typical answer I would call that can't answer. If

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they were to ask her about, say, global warming, she
will say, well, I think we need to have a
conversation about to come about uh, global warming in the future.
I think that all points need to be heard. Man,
what do you think about cracking? Well, I think we
need to have a conversation about fracking in the future
and on all things that need to be heard. I'm

(01:23:15):
here to hear. I mean, okay, we we you know,
we are looking for leadership, and see we're looking for
uh uh you know, policy over sentiment. But see, the
thing is, emotions run so high, and it's so easily
and more easily to manipulate someone using uh, some emotional

(01:23:36):
appeal as opposed to the logistical facts. And for example,
she came up with this uh line that Trump wanted
to have a Trump tax, he wanted to raise taxes
on on a like a national sales tax. And then
that's the last thing that Trump that I have.

Speaker 3 (01:23:55):
And I said, I'm you know, I've heard various people
floating a national sales tax. I haven't heard that probably
in about eight years or so.

Speaker 11 (01:24:09):
Yes, yeah, she called it a Trump tax. And so
but then summer stain because some will say the biggest
lilli has one grain of truth to it. So what
what they were talking about is that what they did
was they manipulated this whole thing about the tear So
she was saying, well, if you put tariffs on foreign goods,

(01:24:29):
then you're gonna then American citizens, we're going to pay
higher prices for those foreign goods. Therefore that tariff is
a tax.

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
Yeah, well that was starting and one of the missing
points was is that when he was his turn, he said,
then why has Biden kept these tariffs on for most
of the things that we did for the last three
and a half years? And I think that was one
of his great punches. Hey, we're going to pick this
up on the other side of the break, and we
want to talk about some of these other policies and

(01:24:58):
some of the things in terms of the giveaways that's
being talked about in terms from an economic standpoint as
to what this will do to the economy, but also
to the nature of the human desire to accomplish something
as opposed to being handed something.

Speaker 3 (01:25:17):
My guest is Ken Anderson.

Speaker 2 (01:25:19):
Author of a couple of books, Economic Revolution and Keyboard Alphabet,
will pick this up on the other side of the break.
I'm Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas fifty five kr
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Speaker 7 (01:25:30):
This is fifty five karc An iHeartRadio station.

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
In the morning, Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas fifty
five KR see the talk station. Continuing our conversation with
Ken Anderson, author and local businessman, economic author of the
book Economic Revolution and Keyboard Alphabet. Ken again, and thank
you so much for spending time with us this morning.
I certainly appreciate it.

Speaker 11 (01:26:04):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:26:05):
But you look at the individual freebies that are being
tossed around, and you know, some would say that's kind
of long lines of like vote buying, but then has
so many problems. There are so many issues that we
see when you start talking about giving away goodies, when
you start talking about government subsidies and so on, all

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that does is add to inflation and kind of takes
away the I guess the I don't know the content
of being proud to have accomplished something, the joy of
having accomplished something. If something's handed to you, you don't
appreciate it as much as you do if you earned it.

Speaker 11 (01:26:50):
I agree on And what happens is that what we're seeing,
we're seeing politicians saying, hey, I will give you pree
be for your votes, and I will give you I
will promise you things that I know that I can't deliver,
but you give me your vote now, and then I
will promise you know I would deliver it. And then

(01:27:12):
I always blame it on the other guy. And it's
like the old wimpy from Popeyes. I will gladly pay
you next Tuesday for hamburger today. So I will gladly
promise you everything for your vote today. And by the
time the voters get around to voting someone out, then
they get them up into another route up and they

(01:27:34):
forget all about it, and it keeps.

Speaker 2 (01:27:36):
Going, yeah, well, I tried to deliver this for you,
but those means do it.

Speaker 11 (01:27:43):
Yeah, And so it happens all the time. And so
one of the things is, for example, when it comes
to the real estate, I talked to some people years
ago and they used to have not as much now,
but they used to call it sweat equity. So we
had we had some homeowners who would maybe do some

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of the repairs themselves and the process of closing the loan,
you know, maybe raking the leaves or painting a porch,
and that was all in part of the real estate contract,
and they would get a certain dollar amount towards their
down payment, maybe towards closing costs, and so that gave
them a sense of pride because I earned this eight
hundred dollars or you know. And that's what the American

(01:28:27):
experience is all about. And you know, one of the
things that politics is about, this about control of the language.
And they very very or very slick, and one of
the things they talk about is the American experiment. No,
it's the American experience. And the American experience is what JD.

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Vance represents someone who was born and raised on the
wrong side of the tracks, who are who's faced with
adversities and experiences the American dream. The reason why they
want to get away from that because they want to
keep that within locked within their own little clique, and
they don't want it to be out for the masses,
for people to own real estate and for people to

(01:29:09):
prosper and to grow and to build generational wealth. Sure
their families, it's all for it. They're for that, but
for everyone else, for the average American citizen, they want
to shut the doors. And that's the reason why it's
important that we keep our minds and our options open
and we focus on the policies and understands policies matter,

(01:29:33):
and we have to override the quick emotion because that's
easy to manipulate.

Speaker 2 (01:29:39):
It seems to me from what I've seen of watching
democrats over the years and liberals in particular, is they
talk a good game about wanting to help people, that
they want to be there for them and so on.
But they'll climb the ladder themselves. But instead of leaving
that ladder down, they'll put it just out of reach
of the people below them, just so that they can

(01:30:02):
attain what they attained, so that they can keep offering
them something so that they keep voting for them. And
I think this is one of the insidious things that
they do, as far as keep promising people that we
will take care of this, we will keep taking care
of this. I mean, you look around at all the
different blue cities around the country, and are they any

(01:30:24):
better off now than they were twenty years ago?

Speaker 3 (01:30:27):
Are there worse?

Speaker 14 (01:30:27):
All?

Speaker 11 (01:30:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:30:30):
Yeah, And I was gonna go ahead, go ahead, No, Well, well,
I was just going to say, I heard someone say before,
the best anti poverty program is opportunity for gainful employment.

Speaker 11 (01:30:45):
And if we foster a business, a business atmosphere that
is that will offer gainful employment. That is the best
way to do it as opposed to this class warfare.
We're going to or rich and they're not paying their
fair share. You know, you you tax the rich guy

(01:31:05):
out on unrealized tax, unrealized uh capital gains. Guess what
they're going to withdraw their money in the market and
live on the beach.

Speaker 3 (01:31:14):
Yeah. Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:31:16):
Just one final question, have you ever been employed by
a poor person?

Speaker 9 (01:31:23):
Actually?

Speaker 11 (01:31:24):
Uh no? And I've always wanted my bosses to be wealthy.

Speaker 12 (01:31:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:31:29):
And I tell people treat your your job like it's
your business, because one day it just might be your.

Speaker 3 (01:31:35):
Business very well could be. Ken.

Speaker 2 (01:31:38):
Thank you so much, you bet, thank you so much
for being on the program today. I certainly appreciate it.
My friend Gott's questions everyone, my friend Ken Anderson. Uh yeah,
coming up. Okay, we'll be continuing this and more. I
got some other thoughts here before we get to the
top of the hour. I'm Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas.
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Golden Sachs group economists gained out the potential economic implications
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USGDP faces a hit in the case of a win
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positive fiscal impulse from maintaining the most kinds. The problem
with that is is that was a group of economists
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the campaign trail, and you see this in some of
the news reports and so on. It's a lie CEO
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a report from an independent analyst into something that's bigger
than what it was intended to be. He set the
record straight the other day. And the problem is with
these with this in this particular campaign, it is so
important for the left, for the Democrats to lie about

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something and figure that that lie will go around the
world until it can be corrected. Remember Judy Woodruff, PBS
what we're paying for taxpayer dollars for public broadcasting, made
the comment on one of their shows that there was
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But Donald Trump, she understood, had called net Yahu and
said no, we don't want this piece accord until after
I'm elected, or you know, this will help the Biden administration.

Speaker 3 (01:35:15):
This is what she said on air.

Speaker 2 (01:35:17):
Then the next day on Twitter, not the program, not
the people that tune in on Twitter said well, I
had read that from an unsourced comment or read that
in an article that proved not to be right. I mean,
you know, you throw a lie out there and then
you never correct. Like I said, being liberal means never

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You know we had last week we had this Oh well,

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I mean, and it's it's amazing how when you look
over the period of time over the Trump administration and
some of the things that he said while he was president,
and some of these things that have come true, which
I got to tell you from the start. When he
first burst on the I mean when he first came

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on the scene in terms of in twenty twenty fifteen
and was talking about becoming president and some of the debates,
I did cringe. I was not on the Trump train
at the time, and I did cringe. But the more
and more you listen to what he had to say,
and the less that the other people were talking about

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certain issues, I became more and more of a fan
and then when you look at his economic policies and
you look at what he did while he was in
office and the stuff that he talked about. I think
one of the things that was the most fascinating is
that remember when he spoke before the UN and he
talked about how that.

Speaker 3 (01:37:32):
Germany and Europe allow.

Speaker 2 (01:37:35):
Themselves to become completely dependent on Russian oil or Russian
national gas. They're going to be wholly dependent on them,
and Russia will control them. And there was a scene
where the German Deligraate delegation was laughing like this idiot,

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I mean, what a nutjob. This guy is crazy. And
what happened. Russia invades Ukraine. Germany has started weaning itself
off of they started doing investing in wind, solar and whatever.
Their energy sources or energy supplies were falling tremendously and

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they were totally dependent on Russia. One of the things
that we see here in this Ukraine war. Think about
this for a moment. Okay, you've got Russia invading Ukraine.
Ukraine is their people are being killed left and right
by Russia. And yes, they are killing a lot of Russians,

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but there is a pipeline that runs through Ukraine that
services Germany and Europe, And you would think that the
economic prospects of that, the revenue that is gained from
Germany and you're paying Russia for these natural gas supplies

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and oil and so on, that if you want to
win the war, you cut off that revenue. So far
they haven't because I guess that would be considered an
act of war against NATO. So you're at war with
a country that is getting fed money by your neighbors

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as you're trying to fight this enemy from invading your country.
Does any of this make any sense? Where is the
European Union? Where is NATO? Where is the UN? The
governing body? I mean, these liberals all want this new
world order. They want this central government. They want the

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Klaus Schwabs of the world, the Bill Gates of the
world to handle all this stuff. Well, none of these
guys are stepping up to the plate. None of these
governmental orderszations, none of the NATO, none of the UN.
Where's the UN peacekeeping troops? They're nowhere to be found.
And yet this continues on and continues on, and yet

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we are told about all these trouble spots, were told
about all these things that are going to happen that
never happened during the first Trump term, that all this
hell is going to break loose in his second term.
We have an example of what this man did in

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the first four years. Had it not been for all
the fighting of the Democrats over the Russian hoax, that
was a hoax that even that even Obama in October
of twenty twenty, there's a quote by him saying that

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for Donald Trump to think that the election could possibly
be rigged, he needs to concentrate on getting out more
votes and stop whining. There is no way anybody could
manipulate this election in fifty states. Yet once he was elected,
all of a sudden, Russia was involved. Russia swayed the election,

(01:41:17):
Russia helped him. Unbelievable. Had it not been for all
the stuff attacks on Trump during his term, how much
more could have been accomplished. We've seen what this group
does that's in there now that Kamala is trying to
what unburden herself by the past of the high inflation

(01:41:38):
nine point two percent in June of twenty twenty two,
gas price is hitting a high of five dollars and
two cents a gallon.

Speaker 3 (01:41:46):
Back in June.

Speaker 2 (01:41:47):
They want to pat themselves on the back by dropping
gasoline down to the two to eighty two to three
dollars national average is what threes something a gallon now
and when during Trump was at two twenty seven two
twenty four. We're paying a dollar more or more now

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it was two dollars or more before. And they want
to pat themselves on the back for a job well done,
the interest rates being as high as they are, the
inflation rate being as and this isn't a one off
on inflation, folks.

Speaker 3 (01:42:21):
We've seen that.

Speaker 2 (01:42:21):
You look at these prices compared to twenty twenty, which
people are starting to now do. It's not just okay,
it goes up three percent this month and on an
analyzed basis it's a ten percent increase. Well, no, that
three percent doesn't go away the next month. The next

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month where there's a two point or a point two
percent or a three percent raise on top of that.
These are cumulative effects. That's why you see energy prices
today being forty seven and fifty some percent higher than then,
eggs being at forty seven fifty percent when they talk
about a price a loaf of bread, All these things
are cumulative effects anyway phone number seven four nine fifty

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To the phones we go. Let's speak with Evelyn. Evelyn
fifty five KR see how are.

Speaker 3 (01:44:47):
You this morning?

Speaker 6 (01:44:49):
Oh?

Speaker 18 (01:44:49):
Thank you, Kevin, my, thank you so much for your show.
Can you hear me?

Speaker 6 (01:44:55):
All right?

Speaker 3 (01:44:55):
Yeah? Absolutely, thank you.

Speaker 18 (01:44:59):
Well, there's a lot of frightening things going on, and
the one thing that is so painful is the child
mutilation of the doctors who are willing to remove body
parts and to cancel adult physical adulthood in children. And

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you know, talk to young people and oh no, it's
so important though otherwise they'll commit suicide. And I say,
but they are removing their adulthood. They are castrating boys,
they're removing their reproductive rights. Yeah, how you know, because

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you're very you're even though you have you know, terrible
news to share with us. You're very comforting in terms
of acknowledging that something has to be done.

Speaker 3 (01:46:03):
Yeah, And the thing is that.

Speaker 2 (01:46:08):
There is a you know, they talk about the brain
that the typical brain doesn't really formulate completely until age
twenty six, which you know begs the question about you know,
military service and drinking age and all that sort of,
so that being the side the brain isn't fully developed.
And when you look at adolescents, I mean, all you
got to do is have a parent and see what

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a child does in terms of they come home from
school they're crying because Jody or their their best I'm
because I'm had daughters that Jody was mean to her
so and so, and you know that was her best
friend and you just want to go, you know, when
you want to go talk to the parents and whatever,
and she goes, well, I'm never going to talk to
her again, and the next day they're best friends again.

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So kids switch on a dime. Kids they are confused.
And when you talk about puberty, that is a confusing
I'm for kids, it is somewhat of a scary time.
And when what they're not telling people is is that
what you are doing is that you are making a

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lifetime decision at age well as far as the parents
are concerned, if they do this at age seven eight,
they're keeping they're condemning these children to a lifetime because
you have to keep up the hormonal drugs.

Speaker 3 (01:47:25):
You have to keep up with the.

Speaker 2 (01:47:29):
Booster you know, like booster shots for the genetic makeup
and so on. Otherwise you start reverting back, and once
the reproductive system is removed, you can't have children. It's
impossible to have children, and therefore you're robbing them of childhood.
You know all the facts, first of all, the whole

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idea of the surgery.

Speaker 3 (01:47:52):
You know, if you're at.

Speaker 2 (01:47:53):
Age eighteen, twenty twenty one, fine, But to say that
a parent has no right in terms of what this
child does, and that you can take it to a
state like you can take that child to a state
like Minnesota and Tim Walls will let them start hacking
off body parts.

Speaker 3 (01:48:11):
That's insanity, and I just it's just I don't know.

Speaker 18 (01:48:16):
But you know, thank you, because you know in order
for some people I.

Speaker 19 (01:48:21):
Know don't believe this is actually happening and that they
they will psychologically be able to overcome the surgery and
I'm thinking you are condemning somebody to lifelong exactly pain
and removing suffering and suffering.

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I'm up against the hard break here at the top
of the hour. I thank you so much for the call,
certainly appreciate it. You have a great day, Okay. I'm
Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas. Fifty five care see
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And now Kevin Golden filling in for Brian Thomas on
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Speaker 2 (01:49:33):
I've been at second eight o'clock, happy to be Monday
to you a lot to talk about today. We've covered
a lot of issues and we're gonna be covering a
lot more.

Speaker 3 (01:49:43):
But first let's get to the phone.

Speaker 2 (01:49:44):
By the way, the phone numbers five one, three, seven,
four nine, fifty eight hundred eight two three talk one
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five fifty at and t wireless phone. You know, we've
been talking about, I mean, yet another assassination attempt on
President's We've talked to a little bit about this little
council culture, cancel culture.

Speaker 3 (01:50:06):
Going on with the movie Am I racist?

Speaker 11 (01:50:10):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:50:11):
Some of the theaters are not covering that because of protests,
and I reiterate this. It says, you know, due to
strong reactions from our community for and against the film
and concerns for the well being. Wait a minute, if
people are calling your theater and saying they want to
see this movie and they're excited to see this movie,
how is that for and against the movie? That that anyway?

(01:50:34):
So the cancel culture continues.

Speaker 19 (01:50:36):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:50:37):
And of course we've been talking about this assassination attempt
and how the media is covering it. By the way,
in one instance, it appears as though they're saying that
it's Trump's fault, which is interesting. Anyway, let's get to
the phones here. Let's talk to Mississippi James. How are
you this morning, my friend.

Speaker 20 (01:50:56):
I'm doing pretty good, sir, good. Yeah, I guess you
just had on their Ken Anderson Yes, said he's a
good man. He's a gentle and kind of Republican and
I've read his book, and we also do a walking club.
We're members of the same walking club. And when I
first met him, you know when he talks about a

(01:51:19):
spiritual well, well let me get to what I always say.
I say, we'll spiritual beings going through human experience.

Speaker 8 (01:51:29):
That's for sure a chapter.

Speaker 20 (01:51:31):
You have a chapter in his book that's similar to that. Well,
what that brings me around to. You know, once I
became a talk show junkie, and you know I listened to.

Speaker 3 (01:51:42):
What do you become a junkie?

Speaker 9 (01:51:44):
Like that?

Speaker 3 (01:51:44):
I became that way back in the early nineties. So anyway,
go ahead, I'm sorry.

Speaker 9 (01:51:49):
Okay, So I said, it's so neat that you can sort.

Speaker 20 (01:51:53):
Of find your balance there listen to both sides with
their extreme views, and I say it would be not
I said, if we could do an experiment like back
in debate class, where they assign you a subject, you know, okay,
you're gonna be pro this or your cones or whatever.
And if you take some of the conservative and they

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had to be pro Commala and just the opposite, take
some of the liberal and they had to be pro Trump.
I believe that would be a good experience there to
see what, you know, how they would handle that because
in reality, you know, you hear all the pros about Commala,
you hear all the pros about Trump, and I realized,

(01:52:36):
you know, a lot of people won't listen to certain things.
I'm not trying to hear them. They crazy, they is?

Speaker 9 (01:52:41):
They that? Well, most of the time the truth is
in the middle, you know.

Speaker 20 (01:52:46):
Yeah, And I'll be glad when the election come and
go so we can get back to some civility and
maybe more of us peoples in the middle, you know,
can be a better force of boards own heel in
this this country and this nation or wherever we are.
And that's the name Mississippi, James, you know, that's where

(01:53:09):
I live. About six months at the year, I'll be
going back in no family, so you know, the same
thing will You'll.

Speaker 2 (01:53:17):
Be getting down there to those low gas prices. When
you look at the gas prices down in Mississippi, they
have been traditionally less than any They've been the lowest
gas prices in the country as opposed about two dollars
cheaper than California, for sure, but interesting, Yes.

Speaker 20 (01:53:33):
Well I experienced that. When I came back in August,
we was almost a dollar cheaper down there, and now
I came on up cross that line. Or wait a minute,
I did gas get back to three dollars or something.

Speaker 3 (01:53:45):
Wait a minute, I'm going home.

Speaker 11 (01:53:49):
Yep.

Speaker 9 (01:53:50):
So God, I love you. Thank you for setting in
for Brian today.

Speaker 2 (01:53:54):
Thank you, you know for sure, good day. Appreciate the
kind words. Thank you very much, Mississippi Gym. And safe
travels out there. You know, we were talking about some
of these, and of course we're talking about the assassination attempt,
and it is shocking to me of how lacks some
of the security is. And if you look at the
press conference that was done yesterday afternoon, it was shocking

(01:54:15):
to me what was actually said in terms of, well,
he's not president, he doesn't get the full secret Service
detail that could be. And when I look back on
how they treated Bobby Kennedy when he was running and
he was still in the race, and so on the
fact that secret Service was denied. I mean, if anybody

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given the family background, and given what had happened to
his uncle, what happened to his father, you would think
to just err on the side of caution alone. They
wouldn't want that on their conscience or a part of that.
You would think that they we had given a secret
Service detail, but no, they didn't. And so it's amazing
to me the lack of intensity of taking these threats

(01:55:01):
seriously and the fact that we haven't even had a
secret Service press conference since the assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania.

Speaker 3 (01:55:11):
So again, but you know.

Speaker 2 (01:55:12):
When you look at these and you know, look at
what happens as far as the left is concerned when
they want to talk about violence, isn't it amazing how
much of it is phantom violence. We keep hearing these
stories about white.

Speaker 3 (01:55:27):
Supremacists in the mountains gathering and they're going to be
a threat.

Speaker 2 (01:55:33):
Well, when was the last time that materialized? We saw
about oh, the attack on Jesse Smolette. Oh oops, sorry,
that was wrong. Do you remember back in twenty sixteen,
after the election, there was some spray painting that was done.
Nasty Nazi swastika's painted on the Hebrew Union College sign

(01:55:57):
out front. Whatever happened to that, I can tell you
because I followed up on that about six seven months later,
and it was not in the public realm, but I
believe from the comments that they were ducking and dodging
and saying, well, this guy will have to call you back.
It's been handled, it's been taken care of. I think

(01:56:18):
it was probably an inside job. To remember, at the
same time, there was some spray painting of racial epithets
put on the bleachers at Withrow High School. They had
the guy on camera, they could see him. How come
somebody was not prosecuted for that. Did they find out

(01:56:39):
who it was and that, oh, this wasn't some right
wing extremists, that it was possibly somebody who had access
to it that was trying to gin up some racial
animosity towards you know that it's the white racists that
are creating this. Remember the noos in the garage on

(01:56:59):
the NASCAR circuit, Remember the noose that supposedly was found
at the Obama Library construction site.

Speaker 3 (01:57:10):
Whatever happened to that investigation? Was it a hoax?

Speaker 2 (01:57:15):
Did they find out that, oh, actually it wasn't a
news It was just a loop of something that you know,
construction material or something along those lines. You know the
NASCAR the noose, it was the garage polars. It was
a rope that was put in a loop so that
you could pull the garage door down. But no, that

(01:57:37):
made national headlines. Okay, then, as I said, you would
think of the Obama Library, if there was a noose
on the construction site, that somebody would have been prosecuted,
that they would have made an example out of that person.
We keep hearing about the transphobic language lead to suicide,

(01:58:02):
while the manifesto of that shooter in Tennessee, the trans
male or the trans woman that did the shooting down
in Nashville, that manifesto was suppressed. How about we still
do not have an answer. We do not have an

(01:58:23):
idea of the motivation or anything for that Las Vegas shooting.
Fifty eight people were killed that night, and we don't
know what happened. We don't know what the bottom line
of that. We talk about harassment, we talk about these
various things we talk about, but we don't talk about

(01:58:45):
migrant crime. We're not supposed to talk about that. We're
not talking Remember the knockout game that was going on
where people would be walking down the sidewalk and they'd
get punched. We don't talk about the rapes, the murders,
the well we talk about them, and they're the conservative
media talks about that. But you don't hear this in

(01:59:06):
the national news. They don't talk about the migrant crime
that's going on in this country. The fact of the
fact that New York is saying that they are overrun
with illegal immigrants, that the twenty thousand or more that
they're housing has stretched their budget, that has cost them
five billion dollars. When you talk about the thousands of

(01:59:28):
people that are coming across the border, or you know
before on a daily basis, these small towns down in Texas, Arizona,
and so they have a population of maybe five thousand people,
they have twice three times that population coming through there
on a monthly basis, and there's no services for them.

(01:59:49):
We see how the liberals handle these migrant invasion, if
you will, or migrant settlements. What about those forty migrants
that were taking a Martha's vineyard. Yeah, it was a
publicity stunt, but look what they did. They claimed that
all of welcome arms are brothers and all this sort

(02:00:11):
of stuff, and in forty eight hours they had the
National Guard escort them off that island onto an army base. Yeah,
the liberal caring until it hits their backyard anyway. Phone
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Shine. On Harvest Moon.

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Tuesday, Tomorrow, September the seventeenth, the full Harvest Moon will
experience a partial lunar eclipse that will be visible for
North and South America except Alaska, Europe, and most of Africa,
Western Asia anyway, so on, and so forth. This is
one of those times during the year when they call

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it the harvest moon because the sun or the moon
is so big and so bright, and especially if you
happen to catch that as the moon comes up, I mean,
it is absolutely huge, and the shine from that is
so big, and they call it the harvest moon because
it actually provided enough additional light for farmers back in

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the day that they could extend their workdays on into
the evening. And this will be a full moon for
over a three day period of time, and there will
be a partial eclipse of the Moon that will begin
around eight forty pm Eastern daylight time on September seventeenth
and will peak around ten forty four pm. Now what

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I'm looking at here, as far as our weather forecast
is so on is supposed to be overcast on Tuesday,
staying a little bit cloudy Tuesday night, which may be
a problem in terms.

Speaker 3 (02:02:33):
Of being able to catch this.

Speaker 2 (02:02:35):
But there are some live streaming events and websites that
you can do to check that out. But if you
happen to be able to see that, it happens every year,
or at least not the eclipse portion, but at least.

Speaker 3 (02:02:48):
The moon itself.

Speaker 2 (02:02:49):
And it's amazing when you drive around and it's I
don't know if you've seen this or whatever, but you
can be driving down the road and it looks like
the thing is up there in terms of your vision,
as big as a basketball in front of your face,
and you think, well, you know, if I can just
drive down the road and get up on top of

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this hill, I'll be able to see it even better
and bigger and maybe get a picture of it. But
for some sort of optical illusion or what happens by
the time that seems like the more you drive closer
to it or get higher up, you can't see it
as well. So anyway, if you get a chance to
see that and make sure you get out there around
you know, September seventeenth, Tuesday evening, like I said, it's

(02:03:37):
supposed to begin around eight forty in the evening and
be able to catch that, it's really great to see.
So anyway, that's what I have there now when we
talk about gasoline prices. I was talking with that Mississippi
Jim James Jim in the previous segment. You know, I
do America's trucking network, and so I obviously gotline price

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and diesel prices are important to the truckers out there.
But it is amazing to me when you look at
the national average for gas prices every day and you
look at how those prices are compared to around the
country today. As a matter of fact, California, the average
gas price in the state of California is four dollars

(02:04:23):
and seventy six cents. In Mississippi, the average gas price
in that state is two dollars and seventy three cents.
Two dollars and two cents cheaper than California. And it's
important to realize that California has so many different restrictions

(02:04:46):
in terms of products that what happens in California depending
upon because of their size, manufactures, if they have to
cowtow California to make a product a certain way to
satisfy the environmentalism or the climbinists out there, then that's

(02:05:09):
what they produce for the rest of the country. And
so you've got one state dictating to the rest of
us how and what we are going to be paying
for certain items. As far as you know, California gas
emissions and so on. Some of those are in California,
but some of them filter this way. And if you

(02:05:29):
look at their why their prices are so high. There
they have a state excise tax, a cap and trade tax,
a sales tax, a CARB regulation costs, underground storage regulation costs,
on top of the federal excise tax, the national tax,

(02:05:50):
as far as a federal gas tax of eighteen point
four cents a gallons. But all those taxes combine add
up to a dollar forty three or thereabouts. On top
of that, you have the state of California that demands
that the oil companies or that the gasoline distillers make
a special blend of gasoline that is more carbon neutral,

(02:06:14):
and that on itself adds between fifteen to twenty five
cents a gallon. And so when you see the nonsense
going on in California in terms of their sanctuary cities,
in terms of the homeless problem there, in terms of
the prices that they're paying for their gasoline, why would
you want a San Francisco radical Marxist liberal running the country.

(02:06:41):
And if people don't wake up to that, if people
don't see the problem with that, I don't know what
else to say.

Speaker 3 (02:06:47):
The media isn't going to cover it.

Speaker 2 (02:06:49):
It's important and it's incumbent on us to get the
message out. Talk among our friends. Don't be shy, talk
to people. Hey, you know, if you lose friends over this,
too damn bad. This country is so important and too
important to be turned over to a bunch of Marxists anyway.

(02:07:09):
Five one, three, seven, four nine fifty hundred eight two
three A two five five pound, five fifty AT and
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we've got Vikram Man Sharamani, an economists and author, wrote
a book Making the Making of a Generalist and independent

(02:07:29):
Thinker finds unconventional Success in an Uncertain World. I'm Kevin
Gordon in for Brian Thomas fifty five KR see the
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Eight thirty two in the morning. Kevin Gordon in for
Brian Thomas.

Speaker 2 (02:07:55):
Fifty five KRC the Talk Station. If you checked out
my Facebook page this morning, you'll notice that I'm going
to have my next guest, Vicrum Mansharamani. He is an
economist and author and has written an interesting book, The
Making of a Generalist Independent Thinker Finds Unconventional Success in

(02:08:15):
an Uncertain World, and then another book that he wrote,
a Thinking for Yourself. Welcome to the program, Vic Crum
is certainly appreciated. And I hope I pronounced your name properly.

Speaker 12 (02:08:26):
Yeah, that's perfect, Kevin, yep, Vikram Monstremney. So thank you
for having me.

Speaker 2 (02:08:29):
Oh, my pleasure. I guess I want to talk a
little bit quickly if you don't mind. You ran for
what the second district congressional seat in New Hampshire and
the primary was this past Tuesday, correct, and you unfortunately
and I watched a couple of the comments or a

(02:08:50):
couple of the questions that were asked during one of
the debates. I guess wm R, I think, and I thought,
this guy's this guy's on fire. But anyway, sorry that
that didn't work out. Well, I'm sure I'm sure you
are as well.

Speaker 12 (02:09:07):
Look, yeah, look, I mean these things.

Speaker 13 (02:09:10):
As you know, there's a lot of different variables. Unfortunately,
New Hampshire has a very late primary. Right, we're the
last in the nation primary, and it's a Tuesday, after
a week after Labor Day. And for better or worse,
New Hampshire is also a state where tourists come and
overcome our state during the summer months, and so no
one really pays attention until the eleventh hour. And so

(02:09:33):
after Labor Day is where the sprint happens. We have
multiple debates and people pay attention. And despite that, you know,
there were three major candidates in this race, and the
three of us, the three of us in aggregate, I think,
secured less than seventy five or eighty percent. Yeah, that
means twenty percent just scattered among people that no one

(02:09:55):
really knew about, possibly random and even here's an interesting
kicker roughly.

Speaker 12 (02:10:00):
I think it was almost ten.

Speaker 13 (02:10:02):
Of those who came in to vote for the governor's
race didn't even fill in a CD two candidate left
it blank. So and by the way, and so if
six outs, let's just say it was more than six
thousand people that left it blank. And I came in
second by a margin about five thousand some on votes.

Speaker 2 (02:10:22):
Yeah, it's just incredible. And what now, correct me if
I'm wrong? Apparently I am wrong. I thought New Hampshire
primary was one of the first ones in the nation.
It is for the presidency, for the president, so they
split the primaries.

Speaker 12 (02:10:43):
Yes, the president.

Speaker 13 (02:10:45):
The first in the nation presidential primary took place in January.

Speaker 21 (02:10:49):
Uh huh.

Speaker 12 (02:10:49):
And then for the state.

Speaker 13 (02:10:52):
Primary, which is for you know, state offices as well
as the two federal offices.

Speaker 12 (02:10:56):
Senate and or Congress.

Speaker 13 (02:10:58):
If there is a set this this cycle, there happens
to be no Senate seat that's up, but there are
the two congressional seats that were part of that process
as well as the governor's race, so as well as
all state offices.

Speaker 2 (02:11:10):
That seems like a double expense for the poll workers,
the you know, all the network or the networking that
goes into that and the mechanics of that. That almost
seems a little duplication of efforts.

Speaker 12 (02:11:25):
But yeah, I don't know if I don't know if
that's true, because let me tell you.

Speaker 13 (02:11:29):
Being in New Hampshire during the first in the nation
presidential primary process.

Speaker 12 (02:11:34):
There is a huge value for being first in the nation.

Speaker 13 (02:11:38):
And I mean, look, every presidential candidate descends on this,
All of the media, national media descends on New Hampshire.
There are civic engagement at a level you probably wouldn't
see elsewhere in the country.

Speaker 12 (02:11:49):
Frankly town halls.

Speaker 2 (02:11:51):
Yeah, and I guess the local candidates would get pushed
out as far as news coverage and stuff like that.

Speaker 12 (02:11:57):
So yeah, that's exactly right, That's exactly right.

Speaker 3 (02:12:00):
I think.

Speaker 12 (02:12:00):
You know, look, there's is it ideal?

Speaker 13 (02:12:02):
No, But I will tell you the first of the
nation process for the presidential stuff is a wonderful thing
for the state of New Hampshire. It's a wonderful thing
for America because look, Kevin, I will tell you I
had multiple presidential candidates in my living room where my
children get to ask questions, our neighbors get to ask questions,

(02:12:23):
and there is no pomp or circumstance. It is one
on one real conversations with candidates, and New Hampshire does
a great job of sniffing out, you know, real candidates
versus those that are a little.

Speaker 2 (02:12:35):
Isn't that amazing that that, you know, that is one
of those facets of our political process that is just
so unique to us and especially unique to New Hampshire. That, yeah,
that is really cool. Hey, I we need to take
a quick break. It's away our clock works and we'll
be right back if you can hang with us. My
guest is Vic from Charlemani and we're talking about his

(02:13:00):
book and some interesting thoughts that he has in terms
of thinking for yourself, as well as his latest book,
Being a Generalist, The Making of a Generalists. So anyway,
we'll pick this up on the other side of the break.
I'm Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas fifty five KR
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Speaker 7 (02:13:20):
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Speaker 20 (02:13:24):
Man.

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If you're Ordant in for Brian Thomas fifty five care
see the talk station.

Speaker 3 (02:13:30):
My guess is Vic mon Charmani. He is an economist
and author lecturer at Harvard School.

Speaker 2 (02:13:37):
Being a lecturer there just a wealth of knowledge and
if you got to check out his website and I
will post that on my Facebook page as well as
we'll have a link on it to our from our
website here at fifty five KR. See I'm fascinating you
know your first book, Thinking for Yourself, I think is

(02:13:58):
what caught my attention when you came on my radar
screen because I read a couple of articles by you.
And how does that fit with the latest book being
a general This almost seems like the two don't mesh.

Speaker 13 (02:14:13):
Or a ken Yeah, look, I would go back even
further to my original, my first book.

Speaker 12 (02:14:20):
So I've got three books out there.

Speaker 13 (02:14:21):
The first book is about financial bubbles, and I'll quickly
connect the dots between the financial bubble book, the book
Thinking for Yourself and it's called Think for Yourself, and
then this latest book to journalist. What I found, Kevin
very simply was when I studied financial bubbles, it turned
out that actually, while many economists would say you can't

(02:14:43):
see a financial bubble, what I found was that if
you use multiple lenses to evaluate it, that you could
in fact probabilistically figure out whether you were more likely
or not to be in a bubble. And the way
I did that is I said, not just economics, you
got to look at psychology, you got to look at politics,
you got to look at her ba, you have.

Speaker 15 (02:15:00):
To figure out fomo.

Speaker 13 (02:15:02):
And then when I applied that multi lens thinking logic
to the world of strategy, personal decision making, and corporate
decision making, what I found was actually it also worked.
You have to be able to connect dots in a
world where everyone is focused on generating dots. And I

(02:15:22):
found this true in medicine. I found it true in
personal finance as well as large corporate decisions and government actions.
I said, you have to look through not only an
economic lens, but also a geopolitical lens. You have to
understand what's happening with technology, you have to understand what's
happening in energy, you have to understand what's happening with
individual psychology, culture, et cetera, and.

Speaker 2 (02:15:45):
Kind of the big picture effect, not just concentrating on
a particular focus. And then, as you mentioned, the herd mentality,
which is extremely dangerous, especially when you start looking at
some of the investments and that type of thing that
people were moving into. Well, whenever you've seen these bubbles
whether it was the dot com bust in the the

(02:16:07):
nineties and then the housing market in the late or
two thousand and eight thereabouts in twenty twentylindsight you say, oh,
here were the warning signs. Well, the warning signs were there,
you just chose to ignore them.

Speaker 13 (02:16:23):
Well, that's right. And so just to quickly finish up there, Kevin.
The generalist book, the one that's called The Making of
a Generalist, is in fact that right, which is what
is a generalist?

Speaker 12 (02:16:32):
A generalist is someone who.

Speaker 13 (02:16:34):
Prioritizes breadth of experience over depth of expertise.

Speaker 12 (02:16:40):
And the logic here.

Speaker 13 (02:16:42):
Is connecting dots using multiple perspectives, multiple disciplines or lenses
is actually helpful to navigate uncertainty. So it's sort of
a contrarian logic. Everyone gets taught, develop your expertise, your niche,
and get deep and you know, learn something more than
anyone else. Right, I'm going to suggest, actually that's not helpful.

(02:17:03):
That's not helpful, particularly.

Speaker 12 (02:17:04):
In the time of artificial intelligence and technology.

Speaker 13 (02:17:07):
What you want is to be able to connect uts
across these areas of expecuse.

Speaker 2 (02:17:12):
And you know, when you vic monscharm Ramani is my
guess the you know when you talk about that in
terms of drilling down on just a particular data points
or this is where you see where in I guess
government or in regulations that they believe that they are

(02:17:36):
almost like the center of the universe and that everything
evolves around them, whether it be the Federal Highway Traffic
Safety Administration or the EPA or CDC or whatever. They
don't seem to think outside of their area and see
how whatever these ramifications will be out in the world.

(02:17:59):
And I've seen some people talk in terms of what
they should do with the federal government is instead of
having all of these departments in Washington, maybe move them out. Hey,
how about the Department of Agriculture be out where agriculture is?

Speaker 3 (02:18:17):
You know that's right?

Speaker 13 (02:18:18):
No, no, look, I agree with you, completely, completely agree him.

Speaker 12 (02:18:22):
Look it's not just and I'll broaden it. Look, it's
this idea that experts know best.

Speaker 13 (02:18:28):
Yes, that actually there are people behind a desk who
should tell all of us in the real world what
to do. Like that is an offensive concept to me.
I actually think a lot of us have knowledge and insight.
And you know what, who knows better about me and
my family than me and my family. No one can
be literally, I think I'm the most informant person on that,

(02:18:49):
and so therefore having experts of any sort tell us
how to do things is at some level offensive, right,
I mean again, we'll go back to the pandemic. I
wrote this and think for yourself. You know, what was
the cost? Actually I wrote it about think for yourself later,
what was the cost of people missing mammograms or missing
dental appointments that was not factored into the public health

(02:19:12):
decision making process. Now maybe you could argue it didn't
need to be, but there was a cost. It was
not zero. People missing a mammogram led to probably having
more cancer and probably more death than any public health
official even factored into their process or.

Speaker 3 (02:19:29):
Even wanted to talk about it, or even wanted.

Speaker 15 (02:19:32):
To talk about.

Speaker 13 (02:19:32):
So they just talk about, oh, we have to lock down,
we have to do but that's that's okay. Fine, you
can argue, and I would I'm not sure I would
agree that there were benefits, but you for sure have
to accept that there were costs. And this gets to
your point, which is the expert class, and embodied in
some bureaucratic institutions, that you have three letter agencies in

(02:19:53):
that way, that expert class feels that they know better
than the rest of us, And that is what for
yourself is the opposite of that book was written to say,
all of us know enough to be able to make
our own decisions. All these experts live in silos. They
don't understand the big picture. Only you can understand the
big picture of your own decisions.

Speaker 2 (02:20:13):
Yeah, my wife, from time to time will make the comment,
you know, it appears as though our best and brightest
ain't so best and bright sometimes, which.

Speaker 12 (02:20:24):
Well, that's right, that's right, that's exactly right. Yeah, I mean, look,
it's funny.

Speaker 13 (02:20:29):
The reason I used the title for that book called
Think for Yourself, which is the image I had, was,
you know, and my mother never really did this, but
you can imagine a mother sort of slapping, you know,
not in a violent way, of course. Wait a minute, now,
it's sort of you know, telling a child stop this

(02:20:49):
and think for yourself, Like, don't just follow her behavior,
don't just these things that are stupid. If you know
something is stupid, actually don't do it because someone told
you to.

Speaker 2 (02:21:00):
Yeah, if Billy jumps off the cliff, would you jump
off the cliffs whole.

Speaker 13 (02:21:04):
Yeah, it's freezing cold outside, Go stick your tongue on
the flagpole.

Speaker 12 (02:21:08):
Yeah no, don't like, don't do that.

Speaker 15 (02:21:11):
That's stupid.

Speaker 13 (02:21:12):
But yet, somehow, as we grow into adults, we start
listening rather than to the cool kid, we start listening
to the quote unquote expert who.

Speaker 12 (02:21:19):
Frankly doesn't understand the world the way they pretend to.

Speaker 2 (02:21:22):
No, and and and it's and it's obvious by a
lot of the decisions and a lot of things that
you see.

Speaker 3 (02:21:29):
It's it's you come and away scratching your head.

Speaker 2 (02:21:31):
And especially you know, having a background of economics, and
I am I am a recovering accountant, so I have
a tendency of delving out to the numbers way too often,
and so it it. You know, things have to make
sense to me. They have to pass the smell test.
And so yeah, yep, exactly exactly.

Speaker 12 (02:21:50):
Yeah, it's important to that.

Speaker 13 (02:21:51):
I mean, look, I do I do a lot of
global work too, so it's important to think globally. It's
important across industries, silos, think about geopolitics, economic make local
technology developments. I mean, there's you have to connect dots.
We live in a world where too many people focus
on generating dots.

Speaker 12 (02:22:07):
We need to connect us. That is the way to
navigate uncertainty.

Speaker 2 (02:22:11):
Absolutely, my guest has been back, vicram manshar Ramani.

Speaker 3 (02:22:16):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:22:17):
How can people get ahold of your books to go
to your website or yeah, well.

Speaker 13 (02:22:22):
Look they're available everywhere. Books are sold ONEMA, on Barnes
and Noble, etcetera. But the website is just my last
name Monshuramani dot com. It's m A N s h
A r A m A n I dot com.

Speaker 3 (02:22:37):
Vicum.

Speaker 2 (02:22:37):
I can't thank you enough for spending time with us
today on such short notice.

Speaker 3 (02:22:40):
I certainly appreciate you. Have a great day and all
the best to you.

Speaker 12 (02:22:44):
Perfect Thanks very much.

Speaker 2 (02:22:45):
Ken, all right, take care. Let's say we need to
step out here real quick. I'm Kevin Gordon in for
Brian Thomas. Fifty five kr see the talk station.

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