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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, thirty fifty five KRCD Talk Station Final Online Daniel
Davis Deep Dive. Just search that you'll run right into
my next guest. Every Tuesday we get a deep dive
with Daniel Davis, retired Lieutenant Colonel Dan Davis. Welcome back
to the fifty five carse Morning Show, my friend. It's
a pleasure to have you back on. Always a pleasure
to be here. Thanks Brian Hey, real quick man, I
knocked an eye. I don't have a bucket list, but
(00:21):
if I had one, what I did yesterday would have
been on it.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I took a day off.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
I was invited out to Camp Adderbury in Indiana, and
I was able to train with Navy Seal Teams two
and three, at least some of the members, twelve or
fourteen of them were there, and we shot on a
range fifty BMGs and for the first time of my life,
I was able to shoot beyond I think my the
(00:46):
farthest distance I've ever shot on a range that was
probably like three hundred yards. I was hitting them at
thirteen hundred yards. We were using oh I yes, sir.
We were using MK two eleven rounds, the ones that
explode the explosive fifty col rounds, so there was no
(01:10):
doubt in your mind when you hit the target because it.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Would literally blow up. I had the best time.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Man.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Those guys are awesome, those Sealed Team guys. I said,
you know, if we had, if our American military was
filled with the guys that I met yesterday, we'd have
nothing to worry about.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
You know. I mean a lot of people go to
Hawaii or Europe for vacation and you go military training.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
So, wow, you're really dedicated. Oh I was. No.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I'm just I got a good friend. I'm lucky to
be in the position I'm in that I got invited
to this because I have a retired lieutenant colonel who
is a sniper trainer, and he was there apparently trained
you pretty good. Oh my god, it was amazing what
I learned yesterday. Anyway, I had to get that out
of my system because some of my listeners don't know
why I went a vacation and I took a vacation day.
(01:57):
It was awesome anyway. Sadly timing terrible because of the
most recent assassination attempt on Trump, but we don't want
to focus on that today. With Daniel Davis want to
talk about Putin and apparently you're mentioning that he has
increased his army size though one and a half million.
I saw Wall Street Journal article today and again the
fog of war is acknowledged, but headline one million are
(02:19):
now dead or injured in the Russia Ukraine war. So
frightening figures in that journal reporting. Yeah, and that's a
little odd.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I'll tell you. I'm not sure where they get their
numbers from.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
I know, you know, because because nobody neither side, of course,
publishes real numbers, they and then they both exaggerate the
opposite side numbers.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
But you know, most of the West.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I was looking for some information early this morning before
we came on and see a lot of the Western
people saying, oh, yeah, Russia loses about a thousand people
every day they do these meat grinder attacks. By some accounts,
they say they've lost six hundred thousand dead on the
Russian side, and you know, and I just keep scratching
my head. I'm like, one, where where are you guys looking?
Because I see no actual evidence of meat grinder attack?
(03:04):
So cold word base you just flood the zone with
troops and they just get slaughter, but they keep coming, etc.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I don't see any evidence.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
So in fact, it's the evidence of the contrary that
Russia is the reason why they've been making such methodical
progress over this entire calendar year has been because they
don't want to put their troops at risk, so they're
heavy with firepower, and then only after they've destroyed a
lot of the fortifications, etc. Then they bring in the
troops lower to move forward. Well, that tells you right
(03:34):
there that the firepower is five or ten to one
in favor of the Russians in certain parts of the front.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
And then they want to claim.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
That the casualty counts are the inverse, that Russia has
ten times more than Ukraine, which just doesn't make any
sense at all.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
It's just not rational.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
So I doubt that it's true, because if Russia was
suffering that many casualties.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
They wouldn't be continuing to move. But the other side
does seem to be working that way.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Yeah, Well, they acknowledge the sort of what you and
I are I call the fog of war numbers here.
I mean it's the one million reference is collectively both sides,
and that's killed or wounded, and you and I both
know there's a whole lot of wounded people in any
combat situation, so just the numbers are just crazy. So
(04:18):
where where are we on this? I would love to
have some definitive understanding of where the United States thinks
we're going to take this, because I'm becoming less and
less convinced this is a worthy exercise, just because of
the reality that there's a finite number of Ukrainians fighting
this battle, and we can give them all the weapons
in the world, but if they don't have people to
(04:40):
fight against the Russians and they're increasing army size, it's
it's simply a battle of attrition for the Russians to win, right, right,
It really.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Does come down to that simple.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I mean, there's other things involved, but the fundamental you
just mentioned is almost ironclad, especially in the history of warfare,
and just in the logic of this war.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
You can look look at it when the Russian side
has somewhere.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Around thirty million more men of military age that they
can draw and then the Ukraine side does. If you
get into a war of attrition, which we are definitely in,
then the side with the most inputs is the one
that's gonna win. So if you have more men, if
you have more ammunition, and if you have more industrial capacity,
unless you just decide to quit one day, and neither
(05:23):
side is because both sides are viciously committed to this.
Then you see that one point or another, then the
weight of all the inputs are certainly going to wear
down the other side. And that's exactly what we're seeing
on the front line. Now here's my big problem. I
wish you were in the White House, because if the
person in the White House came to the same logical
conclusion you did, then this would probably be getting wrapped up. Instead,
(05:45):
we are right on the threshold of potentially escalating the
war because Zelensky is pleading and begging and cajoling trying
to get long range weapons from the US, France and Britain,
and the Russian side has said in the most emphatic
terms they have.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
In the entire war that if you.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Use long range weapons systems in our country and in
the depth of our country, then we're going to say
that is the direct involvement of the NATO countries and
we will take appropriate countermeasures.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
And I know I've been seeing it all.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Over the net that all these experts in the Western
A saying he's just bluffing, he's never gonna do that.
And I'm telling you there is no reason to risk
finding out if that's true or not if he's going
to expand because look, those things, those missiles, they won't
change anything. There's not enough of them. It would take
months long, sustained long range bombing campaign to have a
(06:41):
difference at the front line.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
We don't have that many missiles.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Secretary of Defense last week admitted, we don't have that
many attackums missiles. So why start something that could spawn
an expanded war if it can't even help all the way?
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Well, doubling down on what you just said, going back
to my time yesterday at camp out and spending time
with men in uniform, we're short on all kinds of
military equipment.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
It's across the board.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
We are in a sorry state in terms of preparedness
generally speaking.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Is the conclusion that I reached.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Well, that certainly matches what I'm seeing elsewhere too. I mean,
not only are we sending all this stuff to Ukraine,
we're also sending just huge planeloads of shiploads of stuff
to Israel almost on a daily basis, not almost on
a daily basis, And at the same time the Congress
is saying, yea, let's send more stuff out to the
Indo Pacific in Taiwan as well, And you just have
(07:38):
to ask the question. We can't even recruit enough people
to man all of our ships in the Navy. We're
having to decommissionships because we don't have enough troops and
we don't have enough ammunition of various categories. While you're
just giving it out to everybody and risking war with Russia.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
But Brian, I'm just telling you.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
If you succeeded and we actually got into a war
with Russia because of this situation here, we don't have
the men, we don't have the material, we don't have
the industrial capacity to fight sustained.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
War air go.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
We could lose a war if we fought against the
Russia or China right now.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
That's the harsh truth.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Well, in two real quick observations. In order for Ukrainians
should they get long range missiles, I think Putin is
kind of on the right track because I believe you
are going to confirm what I'm going to say here.
To operate those long range missiles requires technology links to
secure systems that the Ukrainians do not have access to
and do not know how to use, so it require
(08:35):
American direct involvement to be able to launch and hit
targets in Russia.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Am I right on that?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
That's why Putin made that comment last Friday. He expressly
acknowledged that, and then subsequently you've had senior British and
American officials acknowledged that's true. So yes, it's not just
misinformation by the Russian side, it's acknowledged by our side
and self evidently true.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Daniel David, Steve Daiber. I wish we had longer to talk.
We are sadly out of time. Always enjoy these conversations,
as troubling as they may be for some of my listeners,
this is just the carshold harshold reality that we're dealing with,
and somebody needs a plan to get this done and
over with because I think, you know, it wouldn't just
be Vladimir Putin's army. The second point I want to make,
they are joining forces and working collectively with the Chinese
(09:22):
and other enemy powers of ours, so.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
We would be in a real big shoo career.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yeah, yeah, you're absolutely right, Daniel Davis, deep dive search
for them online. You'll run right into them and we'll
look forward to next Tuesday in another discussion, my friend.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Next time, take care brother. If I care? What is that?
Suseette Low's camp. Get in touch with Suette Low's camp.
Hey, thirty fifty five KRCD Talk Station Final Online Daniel
Davis Deep Dive. Just search that you'll run right into
my next guest. Every Tuesday we get a deep dive
with Daniel Davis, retired Lieutenant Colonel Dan Davis. Welcome back
to the fifty five carse Morning Show, my friend. It's
a pleasure to have you back on. Always a pleasure
to be here. Thanks Brian Hey, real quick man, I
knocked an eye. I don't have a bucket list, but
(00:21):
if I had one, what I did yesterday would have
been on it.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I took a day off.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
I was invited out to Camp Adderbury in Indiana, and
I was able to train with Navy Seal Teams two
and three, at least some of the members, twelve or
fourteen of them were there, and we shot on a
range fifty BMGs and for the first time of my life,
I was able to shoot beyond I think my the
(00:46):
farthest distance I've ever shot on a range that was
probably like three hundred yards. I was hitting them at
thirteen hundred yards. We were using oh I yes, sir.
We were using MK two eleven rounds, the ones that
explode the explosive fifty col rounds, so there was no
(01:10):
doubt in your mind when you hit the target because it.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Would literally blow up. I had the best time.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Man.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Those guys are awesome, those Sealed Team guys. I said,
you know, if we had, if our American military was
filled with the guys that I met yesterday, we'd have
nothing to worry about.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
You know. I mean a lot of people go to
Hawaii or Europe for vacation and you go military training.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
So, wow, you're really dedicated. Oh I was. No.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I'm just I got a good friend. I'm lucky to
be in the position I'm in that I got invited
to this because I have a retired lieutenant colonel who
is a sniper trainer, and he was there apparently trained
you pretty good. Oh my god, it was amazing what
I learned yesterday. Anyway, I had to get that out
of my system because some of my listeners don't know
why I went a vacation and I took a vacation day.
(01:57):
It was awesome anyway. Sadly timing terrible because of the
most recent assassination attempt on Trump, but we don't want
to focus on that today. With Daniel Davis want to
talk about Putin and apparently you're mentioning that he has
increased his army size though one and a half million.
I saw Wall Street Journal article today and again the
fog of war is acknowledged, but headline one million are
(02:19):
now dead or injured in the Russia Ukraine war. So
frightening figures in that journal reporting. Yeah, and that's a
little odd.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I'll tell you. I'm not sure where they get their
numbers from.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
I know, you know, because because nobody neither side, of course,
publishes real numbers, they and then they both exaggerate the
opposite side numbers.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
But you know, most of the West.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I was looking for some information early this morning before
we came on and see a lot of the Western
people saying, oh, yeah, Russia loses about a thousand people
every day they do these meat grinder attacks. By some accounts,
they say they've lost six hundred thousand dead on the
Russian side, and you know, and I just keep scratching
my head. I'm like, one, where where are you guys looking?
Because I see no actual evidence of meat grinder attack?
(03:04):
So cold word base you just flood the zone with
troops and they just get slaughter, but they keep coming, etc.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I don't see any evidence.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
So in fact, it's the evidence of the contrary that
Russia is the reason why they've been making such methodical
progress over this entire calendar year has been because they
don't want to put their troops at risk, so they're
heavy with firepower, and then only after they've destroyed a
lot of the fortifications, etc. Then they bring in the
troops lower to move forward. Well, that tells you right
(03:34):
there that the firepower is five or ten to one
in favor of the Russians in certain parts of the front.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
And then they want to claim.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
That the casualty counts are the inverse, that Russia has
ten times more than Ukraine, which just doesn't make any
sense at all.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
It's just not rational.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
So I doubt that it's true, because if Russia was
suffering that many casualties.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
They wouldn't be continuing to move. But the other side
does seem to be working that way.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Yeah, Well, they acknowledge the sort of what you and
I are I call the fog of war numbers here.
I mean it's the one million reference is collectively both sides,
and that's killed or wounded, and you and I both
know there's a whole lot of wounded people in any
combat situation, so just the numbers are just crazy. So
(04:18):
where where are we on this? I would love to
have some definitive understanding of where the United States thinks
we're going to take this, because I'm becoming less and
less convinced this is a worthy exercise, just because of
the reality that there's a finite number of Ukrainians fighting
this battle, and we can give them all the weapons
in the world, but if they don't have people to
(04:40):
fight against the Russians and they're increasing army size, it's
it's simply a battle of attrition for the Russians to win, right, right,
It really.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Does come down to that simple.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I mean, there's other things involved, but the fundamental you
just mentioned is almost ironclad, especially in the history of warfare,
and just in the logic of this war.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
You can look look at it when the Russian side
has somewhere.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Around thirty million more men of military age that they
can draw and then the Ukraine side does. If you
get into a war of attrition, which we are definitely in,
then the side with the most inputs is the one
that's gonna win. So if you have more men, if
you have more ammunition, and if you have more industrial capacity,
unless you just decide to quit one day, and neither
(05:23):
side is because both sides are viciously committed to this.
Then you see that one point or another, then the
weight of all the inputs are certainly going to wear
down the other side. And that's exactly what we're seeing
on the front line. Now here's my big problem. I
wish you were in the White House, because if the
person in the White House came to the same logical
conclusion you did, then this would probably be getting wrapped up. Instead,
(05:45):
we are right on the threshold of potentially escalating the
war because Zelensky is pleading and begging and cajoling trying
to get long range weapons from the US, France and Britain,
and the Russian side has said in the most emphatic
terms they have.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
In the entire war that if you.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Use long range weapons systems in our country and in
the depth of our country, then we're going to say
that is the direct involvement of the NATO countries and
we will take appropriate countermeasures.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
And I know I've been seeing it all.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Over the net that all these experts in the Western
A saying he's just bluffing, he's never gonna do that.
And I'm telling you there is no reason to risk
finding out if that's true or not if he's going
to expand because look, those things, those missiles, they won't
change anything. There's not enough of them. It would take
months long, sustained long range bombing campaign to have a
(06:41):
difference at the front line.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
We don't have that many missiles.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Secretary of Defense last week admitted, we don't have that
many attackums missiles. So why start something that could spawn
an expanded war if it can't even help all the way?
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Well, doubling down on what you just said, going back
to my time yesterday at camp out and spending time
with men in uniform, we're short on all kinds of
military equipment.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
It's across the board.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
We are in a sorry state in terms of preparedness
generally speaking.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Is the conclusion that I reached.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Well, that certainly matches what I'm seeing elsewhere too. I mean,
not only are we sending all this stuff to Ukraine,
we're also sending just huge planeloads of shiploads of stuff
to Israel almost on a daily basis, not almost on
a daily basis, And at the same time the Congress
is saying, yea, let's send more stuff out to the
Indo Pacific in Taiwan as well, And you just have
(07:38):
to ask the question. We can't even recruit enough people
to man all of our ships in the Navy. We're
having to decommissionships because we don't have enough troops and
we don't have enough ammunition of various categories. While you're
just giving it out to everybody and risking war with Russia.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
But Brian, I'm just telling you.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
If you succeeded and we actually got into a war
with Russia because of this situation here, we don't have
the men, we don't have the material, we don't have
the industrial capacity to fight sustained.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
War air go.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
We could lose a war if we fought against the
Russia or China right now.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
That's the harsh truth.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Well, in two real quick observations. In order for Ukrainians
should they get long range missiles, I think Putin is
kind of on the right track because I believe you
are going to confirm what I'm going to say here.
To operate those long range missiles requires technology links to
secure systems that the Ukrainians do not have access to
and do not know how to use, so it require
(08:35):
American direct involvement to be able to launch and hit
targets in Russia.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Am I right on that?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
That's why Putin made that comment last Friday. He expressly
acknowledged that, and then subsequently you've had senior British and
American officials acknowledged that's true. So yes, it's not just
misinformation by the Russian side, it's acknowledged by our side
and self evidently true.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Daniel David, Steve Daiber. I wish we had longer to talk.
We are sadly out of time. Always enjoy these conversations,
as troubling as they may be for some of my listeners,
this is just the carshold harshold reality that we're dealing with,
and somebody needs a plan to get this done and
over with because I think, you know, it wouldn't just
be Vladimir Putin's army. The second point I want to make,
they are joining forces and working collectively with the Chinese
(09:22):
and other enemy powers of ours, so.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
We would be in a real big shoo career.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Yeah, yeah, you're absolutely right, Daniel Davis, deep dive search
for them online. You'll run right into them and we'll
look forward to next Tuesday in another discussion, my friend.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Next time, take care brother. If I care? What is that?
Suseette Low's camp. Get in touch with Suette Low's camp.
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