Tim Rivers - BOOK - The American Gulag Chronicles

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You got to win their votes.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
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Speaker 3 (00:06):
Staying updated on the election. Fifty five krs the talk station.
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I wish it was unnecessary to have our next guest
on Tim Rivers.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Great guy. He's a retired IT engineer, Fortune one hundred
executive and writer. In twenty twenty one and began writing
letters of support to the January sixth prisoners and documenting
their stories and their messages to to supporters and America.
And he, along with Mary Goodwin, J six's mother and activist,
created J six Patriot News, providing up the date information
about the state and mistreatment of the patriots and how

(00:46):
they can be helped. And he founded the American Gulog Chronicles.
And last time he was on the program January of
this year, we did talk about his book, The American
Gulog Chronicles, Letters from Prison, and today he joins the
program because sadly it was necessary to do a second book,
The American Gulog Chronicles. I'm sorry. The art of confinement.

(01:10):
I just look, I just my here we are. I mean,
I feel like I'm talking to Alexander Stolchinichen about the
Soviet Union and the Gulag Archipelago that he wrote, and
this is a comparable thing. Welcome back, Tim. I really
wish it wasn't necessary to have you on. But here's
another book, and there are still in prison and these
trials are still going on.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yeah, it's kind of it's kind of a disturbing, I
would think to anybody who thinks that justice is available
to them. I mean, I just got off the phone
yesterday with one individual. He's a thirty year military veteran,
three times Bronze Star, green Beret, never had a traffic
ticket in his entire life. We're three years and nine

(01:54):
months coming without trial, sitting in Dallas Fort with prison.
These are things that I think Americans don't believe could
happen to them, can't believe it happened in this country.
That second book was necessary because this is a chronology,
this is a story that has unfortunately not ended. There

(02:15):
is actually a third book underway called Letters to Donald J.
Trump one hundred and twenty five Letters for Prisoners directly
to DJT. Everything from trying to explain to him what
happened and why they you know, why they are where
they're at, and to please for you know, please pardon us.
I think these are times that are disturbing to anybody

(02:37):
who has an expectation of some stability in the function
of justice and the function of law enforcement, in the
rights of citizens. It's a it's a very disturbing thing
to observe in a lifetime. I really wish I hadn't
seen it, but I think that this is a time
when Americans are being called to duty. I don't care
what your age is, I don't care where you've been

(02:59):
in your life, for what you've done. Your country needs
you now. We are really in serious trouble. And I
have children, I have grandchildren. I would hope that the
grandchildren would have grandchildren one day. I would like them
all to be free, all to be able to expect
equal justice, all to be able to have the rights
that our founding bothers gave us in blood.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Well, many in my listening audience share your arguments, your belief,
your perception of what January six was, which I routinely
refer to as what looks like and what God of
out of hand, drunken fraternity party, not something that truly
represented a threat to our democracy, but that they have
been so mistreated and over prosecuted, and you mentioned the

(03:41):
someone who's been spending that much time in prison has
yet to be even brought to court. Speak to the
listeners and explain to them, if you can, please speak
to those listeners who really think this is appropriate, that
it was a threat to democracy and somehow the January
sixth was, you know, the biggest threat that our nation
has ever seen. And there are people out there that

(04:02):
are die hard believers in that and think that everybody
should be locked up and throw have the key thrown away.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yeah, it's been a very hard battle because the mainstream media,
I'm not even gonna call them mainstream media, the fake
media has been working so hard to misrepresent what happened
and to present a biased political viewpoint of the current regime.
We have worked really hard. The reason the books came
out is because it wasn't enough to publish these things

(04:28):
on telegram and x. We weren't reaching the audience of
America that needed to hear the truth, so we put
the books out there. The books have done okay, but
you know what, it still wasn't enough. Some of the
other people who are labored in this field of ridiculous
sorrow with me for three years. Mister Davidson raw from
Stop Paid and Camera Lee from actually from a number

(04:51):
of different things. More notably, she has been a filmmaker
and a publicist. And we formed a new company called
Unredacted Media just for this purpose to begin to go
a little bit further than the books to do film.
In fact, we just held our first film festival in Greenville,
Texas in the historic Texan Theater where Houdini and the

(05:13):
March Brothers and Kate Smith and names that you would
recognize and performed for over eighty years. And we put
together twelve incredible documentary films that tells this story and
not just about Januuary six, but we're going all the
way back to the pandemic and we're talking about, you know,
how did we arrive at the precipice which we stand upon.

(05:34):
Now we've told it in twelve incredible documentary films. It's
almost fourteen hours of video over three days, and now
it's almost available for post production streaming. You can watch
all the films, you can watch all of the additional
data on them. And what we're doing is we're urging
people to hold watch parties because the folks who are listening,

(05:55):
who don't believe that if you watch these films, it's
not propaganda, literally, and some of them have almost no commentary.
It's video. It's raw, real video from that day and
from the other occurrences, and we just ask America to
watch and make up their own minds. We're not trying
to convince anybody of anything. What we're trying to do

(06:15):
is reveal truth. And so if you go to one
afilmfest dot com, you can get a ticket for twenty
five bucks, twelve and a half hours of movie, over
fifteen hours of other content, filmmaker interviews, just really trying
to reveal the truth of what has happened in America.
I would think this would be our last step, but

(06:36):
you know what, we keep feeling this hand upon our shoulder.
This says we have not done enough, because America is
still hurting. And so I guess we just keep fighting
until we either find the solution to bring us back
to some sanity, some reasonable expectation of the American values,
or we expire in the process. And I'm okay, either

(06:56):
way with it.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
At your age, you know, maybe a little bit like
my mom who's eighty four and you know, thinks she's
not gonna live long enough to see the collapse or say,
for example, the Social Security system. Maybe there's a little
bit of that going on in your mind there. She say,
you'll take what comes, but I don't want to see
that what comes like that, because like you, I have
children as well, and hope some day they have grandchildren.

(07:18):
My own Now does the money that you take and
it's oneafilmfest dot com.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Do I have that right? Yeah? She did the money
from all it took to I guess you know again.
We started this company because everything we've done has been nonprofit.
All of our workers are volunteers. Nobody gets paid for
what they've done. For almost four years now, all the
money from the books goes to a nonprofit that goes
right back into the January six support function. So if

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you buy one of these books, you've joined my Gulag
army to help keep these men and women alive and
keep their families afloat. But more importantly, the money from
these movies is going right back into creating more films,
to giving January six prisoners who have been released and
in some cases are still in prison, the opportunity to
write books, to be involved in filmmaking, to tell this

(08:10):
story in a way that preserves it for the future,
so other generations, unfortunately, do not make the same mistakes
that we have made.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Then your first book, Letters from Prison, the American Goola
chronicles Letters from Prison. Again, we talked about that in January.
These are letters from the actual incarcerated folks. Explain this,
this nouve on the art of confinement. Get a little
more detail about how this differs, if it does from
the prior book.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
It does. It's still it's still letters, but it's the
content of the letters has dramatically changed. They they have
found the expectation of endurance is probably their best tool
in getting through this. As Americans and hopefully people that
are listening to this radio were allaving to try and

(09:01):
reverse this injustice. But these folks have turned this type
of incarceration, this type of persecution, the endurance of that.
They've turned it into a damn art form. The different
ways that they have found the cope. And I would
just tell you immediately that most of these men were
very staunch Christians when they went in. Those who were

(09:23):
not have actually been converted and baptized in prison. They
have found their faith in God, in Christ to be
their most potent ballwork against what's happening to them. And
they like me, I said, you know what comes comes.
If this is where you sent me and this is
where I stand now, then this is where I will work.

(09:44):
And I think these people have come to that same
conclusion that I'm here for a reason. I don't understand
the big plan, but I do understand that there is
always a plan, and I'll serve my part in it.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Oh that's the beautiful thing of believing in a higher power,
because when the highest power that you're surrounded by is
the state and the state has failed you, there at
least some higher power you can turn to for well,
peace of mind, maybe some hope. But also, like you said,
and the whole the idea of the Lord works in
mysterious ways. Maybe you are suffering so others can become

(10:17):
aware of it thanks to folks like you, Tim Rivers,
who get this information out about this mistreatment, about how
the government is abusing its citizens, and so we all
learn from their suffering. I mean there may be a
reason why they're suffering. The Lord does work in mysterious ways.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah, I'm afraid that the current regime would like to
be our god. Oh yeah, to replace God with state.
And that is the function of the socialist society. That
is a methodology of introduction of communism into productive societies.
We've seen it happen across the world over and over again.
It's amazing that people don't recognize it. And that's why

(10:54):
we thought these films were important, because we put them
together in a manner that just tells the story of
not only what has been happening, but how we have
been so thoroughly and specifically manipulated into a belief of
reality that does not match the actual reality of the world.

(11:15):
And I think that sort. One of these films is
called Into the Light, and it explores that topic in
a way that I just, I mean, heck, I know
these filmmakers, and I just fall off my chair watching
these things. Because even I immersed in this as deeply
as I am with the people who speak to me
almost every day, I've ard things in these films that
I just I can't believe, but I now know them

(11:37):
to be true. And it helps illuminate if you're looking
for a path to get into the fight, if you're
looking for permission to become you know, somebody more than
just Joe sitting on the couch watching TV. I'm giving
it to you now because your nation's calling, and this
is a time where you can't fight without being educated,
because you don't even know what you're fighting against. So

(12:00):
these movies, we put them together to form an armory
of truth. I know that may sound militant, but it's not.
It's an armory of truth. We want you to draw
you weapons of knowledge, to find your shield of faith,
and to find your sword of justice. And let's get
in this game. Let's be sure. Not only do we vote,
we take our neighbors to vote. We find our friends

(12:20):
who never voted before. We go to our church and
we find that thirty seven percent of Christians who aren't
even registered, and we take them to the polls with us,
and we start to rebuild this country. And I wasn't
being facetious when I said I didn't think i'd see
the end, because I think the rebuild will be decades
and I'm not sure God will give me that much time.
If he does. I'm okay with it. I'll keep fighting

(12:42):
and working until you know, he calls me out. But
in the meantime, I think he's calling a lot of
people and nobody's listening, and so I'm telling you tune down,
turn off the radio, shut off the phone, forget some
TV for just a few minutes. Even maybe the radio
somebody who's important as Joe, turn it off for just
a minute. Listen to the silence and see if you

(13:03):
can hear the call.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Appreciate that. But I will encourage my listeners not to
turn off the morning show because it's places like my
venue where people like you can get the message out.
Not that I disagree with your message, generally speaking, it's
just simply a question of where information is gathered, and
you can gather great information from Tim Rivers books American
Gulaw chronicles the art of confinement, the most recent one
preceded by Letters from Prison, and of course volume three coming,

(13:27):
and I really wish there was I hope we can
come to a day when there won't be a need
for this anymore, and justice will be served for these
folks really quickly before we part company here, Tim, just
by way of illustration, now I'd be the first person
to have made if you walked on into the Capitol
building and you picked up, say something and clubbed a
police officer or somebody over the head with it, that
you are guilty or responsible for your damages. You committed

(13:49):
a crime. You should be held accountable for that fine.
There has been an actual tortue, even if a civil
you want to put a civil thing on it. There
was something that was done. Harm was done, but for
someone merely walking around the building. They were invited in
in many cases by Capitol police and other figures and authority.
How they can be incarcerated for that simple action is

(14:10):
beyond my understanding. But give my listeners like one illustration
of a severe injustice that someone is dealing with right now,
just to put a little exclamation point on it.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yeah, well, I'll just point back to Jeff McKellop, the
individual I just spoke about is is almost four years
without trial, and now they've set his trial for February,
so that will be well four years and changed. He
was standing outside behind a barrier, very peacefully. He was
there to actually provide protection for some of the speakers

(14:42):
that day, but everything just kind of fell apart when
over millions of people showed instead of the expected five
hundred thousand. He observed a police officer knock a lady
who was standing peacefully down apply to steps concrete. She
was in her sixties and seventies. He got up and
tried to reapproach it, and he'd done that, same officers

(15:03):
sprayed her in the face with bear mason at literally
point blank range, and then struck her again. And mister McKellop,
who was a Green Beret and who has been trained
to come to the aid of those who cannot protect themselves,
did what any good American would do, and he tried
to protect that lady. I approved in video that he
never contacted the officer that he was. He tripped and

(15:25):
fell forward, but he was recovered. He never even touched
the man. He never struck a blow, He never heard anybody.
And yet he's been charged with like a half dozen
violent donies because of who he is, because he's a
uniformed retired uniformed officer of special forces and he stood
against the government because they were doing something wrong the government,

(15:47):
which is to make people like him, people like Green
Beret Jeremy Brown, people like Captain Gabe Garcia. I could
go on and on. These are veterans, decorated veterans who
have been singled out by the government for this ty
with behavior because they dared to stand against tyranny stands.
Please go to J six Patriotnews dot com and read

(16:10):
these stories for yourself. That's all I mean. I could.
I could go on for hours, Joe, but I know
you don't have that time for I'm Brian.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Joe Strecker is the producer of the program. That's okay,
J six Patriot News. That's all right. It happens all
the time. I am a mere facilitator to get information out.
I don't care if anybody remembers my name or not,
as long as they remember the information that you're passing along.
And get a copy of the American Goolt Chronicles Volumes
one and two. Jostrecker will put them up on my
blog page fifty five cars dot com, and I'll also

(16:38):
ask that the add J six Patriotnews dot com and
one afilmfest dot com for my listeners who can't write
it down because they're in the car or away from something,
to jot it down fifty five cars dot com for
all that and this discussion on podcasts. Tim Rivers, keep
up the great work, my friend. I hope to have
you back on the program with with some really good
news at some point down the road.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Thank you for your time. Brother, and everybody, don't do nothing.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
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