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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, twenty nine the fifty five krc DE talk station.
It being Tuesday, it is the time the illiterative segment
of the fifty five KRCCEN Morning Show Daniel Davis Deep
Die find him online retired Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Davis every
Tuesday at this time. And of course, given it's been
one full year and I'm still it's still blowing my
mind that it's been a full year since the October
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seventh terrorist attack on Israel. Welcome back Daniel Davis to
talk about that. It's good to have you back on sir.
Always great to be here, Brian. So beyond the reality
that it has been a full year in an event
that just seems literally like it happened yesterday, I got
a question for you. And with the benefit of hindsight
and all that's gone on with the you know, the
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the intruth we have now Gaza that has been largely
cleared out with some measure of success dealing with the
situation in Lebanon with the other group of terrorists. And
now they thought that well, because Iran launched a couple
of hundred missiles at Israel. Israel's just figuring out the
best point in time to start bombing Iran, which freaks
over lady out. And I understand that question, though, did
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do you think the Iranians were the ones behind the
October seventh invasion? In other words, go in from Gaza
and attack Israel? These are your directions, your instructions or
did the terrorists just sort of go on their own
on that one? What's your take on that particular facet
of it, Because if the Iranians did it or suggested
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or caused it to happen, I don't think this has
worked out the way they really anticipated.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah, a couple of things all that very point number one,
In the early month or so after the war, both
the US and Israeli intelligence both confirmed publicly that they
didn't see any evidence that Iran actually planned or orchestrated
or directed the event at all. That's what they said earlier. Well,
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there was a report on the one year anniversary in
the Israeli press looking back at the preparation for this,
and they have concluded suthoritatively that it was not done
with Iran. In fact, it was hidden from Iran by Sineoar. Yeah, Sinoar,
the leader of Halmas. And they talked about how elaborately
and remarkably covertly. He was able to build up for
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a period of years prior to this event with these
underground tunnels, had them stocked with all kinds of stuff. Uh.
And in fact, that's that's true. They said, this is
bigger than the New York subway system, to give you
a comparison here, And they said, only a small portion
of those have been detective, and they still have lots
of ammunition. They build their own rockets, they don't get
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They said, only a small portion was ever found to
be from Iran, et cetera. So this was definitely a
Hamas driven and a Hamas executed operation.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Well, and again going to my point that I don't
think it's worked out the way Israel plan or the
way Iran planned. The terrorist invasion from gods obviously horrific.
You know, the idea that civilian targets were so to
severely attack, rape, murdered, brutalized, burned alive, et cetera. We've
heard all the accounts. Obviously Israel's going to respond. So
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now the terrast strongholding Gaza is back on its heels largely.
That was I mean, having the terrorists in control of
Gaza was a benefit to Iran. I mean, they could
constantly pester Israel through the rocket launches, you know, do
their little hit and run kind of things without you know,
basically in my procession, keeping Israel busy with the terrorist
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organizations while the Iranians go about their way building a bomb.
I guess, well, that's up ended because you have the
terrasts in Gaza being uprooted. You have the terrorists in
Lebanon now slowly I presume in the same path being uprooted.
That reduces Israel's ability to reach out and touch or
Iran's ability to reach out and touch Israel. Then they
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have to launch themselves two in rockets. Aren't they inviting war?
All out war. I just I'm just trying to figure
out which direction this is going, Daniel, I just really
don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Well, I think first of all, we have to also
acknowledge that the Hamas side didn't just come out of nowhere,
and they certainly weren't just uh pester in Israel for
Iran's sake. This was all about uh what they view
as being basically in apartheid state where they're being trapped
and physically uh trapped inside the Go Strip and the
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gate there where they don't have the freedom to even
go outside of it, et cetera. And you may also
recall that in the summer before October seventh there was
up to two hundred Palestinians had been killed in the
God's Strip in West Bank, and so that was just
a boiling cauldron that finally exploded on October seventh. Now,
the second issue with Iran also there. This missile strike,
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this latest one as well as to one last April,
came in direct response to an Israeli attack on the embassy,
destroying the Iran embassy in Syria UH and then also
assassinating UH, the leader from Hamas in the capital city
during an auguration. So these were both directed back. So
it's not as though out of nowhere Iran is doing this.
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So the question is in the bigger context, where is
any of this going that's going to be good for Israel.
And that's my biggest problem and concerned because they're attacking
the Houthis in Yemen, they're attacking targets in Syria. Of course,
they're attacking. They continue to fight in the Gaza Strip.
In fact, they have restarted an operation in the north
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because the Hamas continues to rise from the ashes. This
is a NonStop situation. And of course now you're going
into the southern eleven and that is we can talk
a whole show about this. That is an enormous military
task Israel has undertaken. And if it then expands into
full on war with Iran, I just honestly don't know
how Israel can handle all those fronts.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Well, it certainly is. I think in the military they
referred to it as a Charlie Foxtraw Daniel Davis.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I think that's a good one there.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yeah, it is. I saw this interesting article and I
wanted to run it by you. Reported on Newsmacks, but
also elsewhere the Biden administration talking about a compensation package
to avoid Iranian states or promising you a certain aid,
extensive diplomatic backing and additional military aid if certain targets
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inside the Iranian territory are spared. So the US is
trying to tell Israel what it can and cannot hit.
Is Israel even going to listen to the Biden administration
in so far as this is concerned.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Well, there's very little evidence the Israeli has listened to
their body administration on any topic. I mean, we could
go down the list of all the things over the
last half year. But it is definitely an America's interest
to avoid this escalating into an all at war because
the concern is, as I just laid out this huge
as ned Yahoo himself claims a seven front war, is
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that Israel gets in too far and this response from Iran,
then if Israel stritched back to Iran the way they
say they're going to, which is a hard and severe
and painful strike, it is virtually certain that Iran will
then retaliating in a much much larger way than it
did in the last two rounds, and Israel could be
in a real world of hurt. And then there's the
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risk that they can't continue to fight the war unless
the US comes in on their side. And that is
correctly what animates the White House right now, because we
don't need to get drawn into a war. Because I
promise you this is you think the Iraq war was bad,
in the Afghanistan was you know this perpetual bleed, this
one would be much worse because unlike those other two wars,
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Iran actually has the capacity to really hurt lots of
people and Americans in the region, not the least of
which is potentially shut down the Strait of more moves.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
And close ties with some of our biggest enemies like Russia,
for example, or Chinese Communist Party China.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
They yeah, because see China's got some interest here too,
because China doesn't want the Iranian oil infrastructure hit because
they get about one point five millions per day from
Iran and they're not going to be passive if that
gets taken out.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yeah, world War three just sounds like it's inevitable if
we get involved in that level. Now in terms of
Israel and its ability to continue to defend itself or
defend itself from these missile strikes, there's got to be
a finite amount of intercept on missiles, whether it's the
Dome system or any other form of system. And if
the Iranians can just sort of you know, one hundred here,
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one hundred there over several week period or something, it
seems to me that Israel at some point is going
to exhaust these very expensive defensive weapons systems and it
won't have them anymore to defend itself.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
You are absolutely one hundred percent route that may be
the Achilles Heel in this entire equation, not just for Israel,
but for the US too. You had Jake Sullivan in
Kiev last month openly admit that we don't have enough
interceptor missiles to give Ukraine, forget about Israel, forget about
any of our needs worldwide, because our production quality capability
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isn't there to get more. And did an enormous amount
of interceptors in April and also in this latest round
here to defend Israel from our ships and then from
our aircraft carriers. Israel by itself used a huge number
in the last one. And the issue from Iran, the
risk is not just that they have, you know, one
hundred and two hundred over a period of days, but
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that they could bring thousands in at a time and
then thousands of drones, each of which would have to
have an interceptor of some sort, and it is a
very real possibility that they have more weapons to fire
than Israel has interceptors to shoot down. And from that
point you are completely vulnerable to anything. That's why I
say there is real risk for Israel and they need
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to be very very careful about how far they go.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
In this nixt round. Just you paint a horrific picture,
but it's reality. Daniel Davis Deep dive Daniel Davis. Search
for them online you'll easily find him. Excellent breakdown. I
appreciate you answering my probably stupid stounding questions. Hey, well,
nothing super about any of them, Brotherwill is your key questions.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
I always enjoy these conversations, so I'll look forward to
another conversation next Tuesday. In the meantime, have a wonderful week,
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