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Speaker 2 (00:02):
One more time.
Speaker 1 (00:02):
The Channel nine first warning weather forecast not bad sonny
in seventy day clear skys overnight forty seventy four. The
height tomorrow is sunny skies fifty one overnightth clear and
mostly sunny Saturday. I have seventy nine closing out at
fifty degrees right now. Time for a final traffic chuck.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
From the UCL Traumphics Center. Mammogram saved.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Vives called five one three five to eight four pint
to schedule your annual mammogram with the UC Health X thirteen.
That's five one three five eight four pink North FND
seventy five. So those a bit buttermilk to Kyle's getting
better through Saint Bernard.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
The wreck near Mitchell is clear.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Still working to clear the wreck on the right near
the lateral snap pound seventy five break blikes from Tylersville
to an accident above Union Center.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
He's found on the Reagan Highway.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
There's a wreck in seventy five chuck Ingramont fifty five
KRC He talks station.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Eight forty seven Here fifty five kr seed talks station
A very very happy Friday. E fu Empoweroamerica dot orgs
where you get the entire seminar list of the classes
that are being discussed at Empower You two twenty five
Northland Boulevard for the studio, and you can always stream
these courses online. Welcome to the fifty five KRC Morning Show,
Rob Tuddle. Do we want a constitutional convention? That is
(01:16):
the question mark subject matter of the upcoming conversation taking
place tonight the tenth at seven pm online Empower You
America dot org to get registered for that, whether you're
going to show up at the Empower Youth studio or
in person. Let me get by a way a background,
Rob Well, He's done a ton of research on the
constitutional conventions. He's been actively involved in politics more than
(01:38):
twenty years, elected three times of the Warren County Central Committee,
volunteer lobbyists for a number of nonprofits across the states,
including Dayton Right to Life. He teaches classes on the
Constitution across Ohio, both as a member of Building Blocks
for Liberty YAY and the Institution Institute. Rather on the Constitution,
focusing on the serious problems of government overreach and fiscal irresponsibility,
(01:58):
subjects near and dear to my heart. So Rob, Rob,
it's great have you on the program. Why are you
a no on a constitutional convention or convention of States?
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Well, thanks for having me on b and this a
real honor. As you said, I've been doing a lot
of research into this, because when you first hear about
this idea that we could have a constitutional convention and
do things in the Constitution by adding amendments that the
Congress won't do, they won't limit themselves, right, it's pretty exciting.
So unfortunately, I'm a bit of an analytical personality, and
(02:35):
I decided to do my own research on both sides
of the issue, and so what I found out was
that ultimately everything pointed to a very dangerous situation if
we were to convene another constitutional convention. If you remember
the first Convention, they were expected to merely revise the
Articles of Confederation, which was our first constitution, but yet
(02:58):
they ended up throwing it out out and creating an
all new constitution. Once those delegates are convened in a
constitutional convention, they have plenty of potentiary power, which means
they can make any changes to the Constitution they want.
And I think this is a very dangerous time, a
very toxic political environment, and we could expect to have
(03:20):
a lot of shenanigans at a convention like.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
That, And I understand that concern and one of the
concerns expressed by my friend Rick Heron, who's been on
the program a bunch of times over the years on
variety of subject matters. He's, you know, Article five convention advocates.
He says, he always asks them, well, who will be
selecting the delegates? And the answer is is he points
out the state Assembly, which is leading to how reliably
conservative is the majority of the speaker of the House
(03:43):
in your state. We've got a bit of a problem,
like hrting cats in Columbus. It's republican state, it's a
Republican governor, House, and Senate, and yet they can't seem
to get anything accomplished by way of conservative values. That
is a bit of a problem, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Well, absolutely, we can't necessarily trust the state legislatures to
appoint people that are going to do a good job
for at least US conservatives. But I would say that
it's not even a sure thing that the state legislators
are going to appoint the delegates. There was a Congression
Research Service report which is the most comprehensive research on
(04:20):
how an Article five convention would actually be conducted back
in twenty fourteen. It was updated by the CRS in
twenty sixteen and seventeen, and they pointed out that there
are no rules around a constitutional convention or the requirements
or characteristics of delegates, not even how many delegates there
would be. And the CRS suggested that Congress actually has
(04:44):
broad latitude. And you may be familiar, and I'm sure
you are, with the Necessary and Proper Clause at the
US Constitution that says that if Congress can call a convention,
then they have certain capabilities with respective defining the boundaries
of the invention that they that they call. So it
could very well be that Congress creates a situation where
(05:06):
the delegates are elected in the states. There's, in fact,
that has been suggested in legislation in the past.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Well as a I suppose a failsafe mechanism. Whatever would
happen in this convention of states. Constitutional convention would have
to be then submitted to the states for ratification or
for approval, and you're going to have to get everyone
and thirty how is it thirty seven states would need
to agree.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Yeah, thirty eight.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yep, So that.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Would be the force of the states would have to ratify.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yes, yeah, So if they went off the rails and
you know, they took away our freedom of speech, or
our Second Amendment rights keeping baar arms, or do what
they always are doing anyway, ignoring our Fourth Amendment right
to be free of unreasonable searches and seizures once it
lands in any given state, to be like hell, no,
we're not going to vote for that, and then the
whole concept be thrown out the window.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Right, Well, that's a possibility. I would suggest that thirty
four states have to request the Convention in the first place,
and so you've got thirty four that are going to
be pretty likely to respond positively when they come back
for ratification. But you know, more than that, we've seen
(06:13):
the states in recent years, and take a look at Ohio, Brian,
We've seen the people of Ohio pass things that we
never thought that they would pass in the Constitution of Ohio.
I'm not sure that I want to take that risk.
And frankly, there's a bill in the US Congress right
now by Jody Errington out of Texas. It's in the
Judiciary Committee. As we speak that says that the ratification
(06:36):
will actually be done by conventions in the States, not
by the state legislatures. So when George Soros and those
guys get their money and advertising, we've seen what they
can do by the people of the States and convincing them.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yeah, like the abortion issue in Issue one that's currently
pending right now, there is fat liberal money behind support
for Issue one, and I'm a firm no on it
to the extent you want to listen to me vote
no on one.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Right, Oh absolutely, Where I guess said, you know, most
of the money for Issue one, the current issue one,
as well as the previous ones, came from out of state,
a lot of it, even I from out of the country. Well,
you know, what do they do in metal in the
state of Ohio.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Well, and that's just going to be a phenomenon going
forward as the world has become an extremely close play
small place and foreign influence is really easy to accomplish
these days through just handing out checks to people to
go ahead and submit the campaign contributions directly to the
re elected representative, even though the money originated in a
(07:35):
foreign country. Crazy stuff going on out there. Tonight is
the night seven PM for Rob Tuttle talking about the
Constitutional Convention. Empower you America dot Org. I strongly encourage
you to get under there at anytime today register to
attend in person or to attend virtually. Rob, good luck tonight,
have an enjoyable conversation. I know the pro folks are
going to be there. We had a woman calling Diana
(07:56):
called in earlier said their folks are going to be
in the audience.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Oh good, Well promised.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
To play nice I talked to those folks all the time.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Good so she promised to play nicely with you.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
We always play nicely with each other. But can I
just take one second to put in a plug for
Orlando Sanza because I've had this Yeah. So Orlando, I
know I've heard him speak about the enumerated powers in
the Constitution. I know he's a fiscal hockey's a CPA.
He's anxious to get on the budget committee up in Congress.
And we wouldn't have a budget problem or an out
(08:29):
of control spending problem if we had people like Orlando
Sanza in Congress who would obey the constitution that we
currently have. A man, I don't know why people think
that if Congress doesn't obey the Constitution today that merely
adding a couple of new amendments to the Constitution is
all of a sudden they're going to start obeying it.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Echoing the comments from a listener that made earlier this morning,
he said the exact same thing.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Rob had fun tonight.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Enjoy the conversation, folks, tune in through the empower Youamerica
dot org website. Rob's a real pleasure to have you
on the pro today. Thanks for what you're doing. Thank you, Brian,
Thank my pleasure.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Brother. Folks.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
If you didn't hear Donovan and ne the Americans for Prospered,
you got a few of several events going on this
Saturday you can participate, and starting to encourage you to
get over to AFP action to do so. Marine Corps
retired Colonel William Dunn talking about that pager attack in
the Middle East. Fascinating that and of course Jay Ratliffe
and the information about the seminar tonight, all at fifty
five KRC dot com, who you can tune tomorrow for
(09:25):
Tech Friday with Dave Hatter. Have a wonderful day, folks,
and keep your prayers going down to the people impacted
by the two hurricanes. They need all the help we
can get. And again I'll put a plug in for
Matthew twenty five, just because I know your buck will
go a long, long, longer way than most other charitable organizations.
Have a wonderful day, folks, stick around. Glenbeck's coming right
up October.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Thanks for getting crazy by the day is sounding on.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
I'm just waiting on some October surprise.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Now fifty five KRC the talkstation, and this report is
spawned
One more time.
Speaker 1 (00:02):
The Channel nine first warning weather forecast not bad sonny
in seventy day clear skys overnight forty seventy four. The
height tomorrow is sunny skies fifty one overnightth clear and
mostly sunny Saturday. I have seventy nine closing out at
fifty degrees right now. Time for a final traffic chuck.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
From the UCL Traumphics Center. Mammogram saved.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Vives called five one three five to eight four pint
to schedule your annual mammogram with the UC Health X thirteen.
That's five one three five eight four pink North FND
seventy five. So those a bit buttermilk to Kyle's getting
better through Saint Bernard.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
The wreck near Mitchell is clear.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Still working to clear the wreck on the right near
the lateral snap pound seventy five break blikes from Tylersville
to an accident above Union Center.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
He's found on the Reagan Highway.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
There's a wreck in seventy five chuck Ingramont fifty five
KRC He talks station.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Eight forty seven Here fifty five kr seed talks station
A very very happy Friday. E fu Empoweroamerica dot orgs
where you get the entire seminar list of the classes
that are being discussed at Empower You two twenty five
Northland Boulevard for the studio, and you can always stream
these courses online. Welcome to the fifty five KRC Morning Show,
Rob Tuddle. Do we want a constitutional convention? That is
(01:16):
the question mark subject matter of the upcoming conversation taking
place tonight the tenth at seven pm online Empower You
America dot org to get registered for that, whether you're
going to show up at the Empower Youth studio or
in person. Let me get by a way a background,
Rob Well, He's done a ton of research on the
constitutional conventions. He's been actively involved in politics more than
(01:38):
twenty years, elected three times of the Warren County Central Committee,
volunteer lobbyists for a number of nonprofits across the states,
including Dayton Right to Life. He teaches classes on the
Constitution across Ohio, both as a member of Building Blocks
for Liberty YAY and the Institution Institute. Rather on the Constitution,
focusing on the serious problems of government overreach and fiscal irresponsibility,
(01:58):
subjects near and dear to my heart. So Rob, Rob,
it's great have you on the program. Why are you
a no on a constitutional convention or convention of States?
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Well, thanks for having me on b and this a
real honor. As you said, I've been doing a lot
of research into this, because when you first hear about
this idea that we could have a constitutional convention and
do things in the Constitution by adding amendments that the
Congress won't do, they won't limit themselves, right, it's pretty exciting.
So unfortunately, I'm a bit of an analytical personality, and
(02:35):
I decided to do my own research on both sides
of the issue, and so what I found out was
that ultimately everything pointed to a very dangerous situation if
we were to convene another constitutional convention. If you remember
the first Convention, they were expected to merely revise the
Articles of Confederation, which was our first constitution, but yet
(02:58):
they ended up throwing it out out and creating an
all new constitution. Once those delegates are convened in a
constitutional convention, they have plenty of potentiary power, which means
they can make any changes to the Constitution they want.
And I think this is a very dangerous time, a
very toxic political environment, and we could expect to have
(03:20):
a lot of shenanigans at a convention like.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
That, And I understand that concern and one of the
concerns expressed by my friend Rick Heron, who's been on
the program a bunch of times over the years on
variety of subject matters. He's, you know, Article five convention advocates.
He says, he always asks them, well, who will be
selecting the delegates? And the answer is is he points
out the state Assembly, which is leading to how reliably
conservative is the majority of the speaker of the House
(03:43):
in your state. We've got a bit of a problem,
like hrting cats in Columbus. It's republican state, it's a
Republican governor, House, and Senate, and yet they can't seem
to get anything accomplished by way of conservative values. That
is a bit of a problem, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Well, absolutely, we can't necessarily trust the state legislatures to
appoint people that are going to do a good job
for at least US conservatives. But I would say that
it's not even a sure thing that the state legislators
are going to appoint the delegates. There was a Congression
Research Service report which is the most comprehensive research on
(04:20):
how an Article five convention would actually be conducted back
in twenty fourteen. It was updated by the CRS in
twenty sixteen and seventeen, and they pointed out that there
are no rules around a constitutional convention or the requirements
or characteristics of delegates, not even how many delegates there
would be. And the CRS suggested that Congress actually has
(04:44):
broad latitude. And you may be familiar, and I'm sure
you are, with the Necessary and Proper Clause at the
US Constitution that says that if Congress can call a convention,
then they have certain capabilities with respective defining the boundaries
of the invention that they that they call. So it
could very well be that Congress creates a situation where
(05:06):
the delegates are elected in the states. There's, in fact,
that has been suggested in legislation in the past.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Well as a I suppose a failsafe mechanism. Whatever would
happen in this convention of states. Constitutional convention would have
to be then submitted to the states for ratification or
for approval, and you're going to have to get everyone
and thirty how is it thirty seven states would need
to agree.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Yeah, thirty eight.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yep, So that.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Would be the force of the states would have to ratify.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yes, yeah, So if they went off the rails and
you know, they took away our freedom of speech, or
our Second Amendment rights keeping baar arms, or do what
they always are doing anyway, ignoring our Fourth Amendment right
to be free of unreasonable searches and seizures once it
lands in any given state, to be like hell, no,
we're not going to vote for that, and then the
whole concept be thrown out the window.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
Right, Well, that's a possibility. I would suggest that thirty
four states have to request the Convention in the first place,
and so you've got thirty four that are going to
be pretty likely to respond positively when they come back
for ratification. But you know, more than that, we've seen
(06:13):
the states in recent years, and take a look at Ohio, Brian,
We've seen the people of Ohio pass things that we
never thought that they would pass in the Constitution of Ohio.
I'm not sure that I want to take that risk.
And frankly, there's a bill in the US Congress right
now by Jody Errington out of Texas. It's in the
Judiciary Committee. As we speak that says that the ratification
(06:36):
will actually be done by conventions in the States, not
by the state legislatures. So when George Soros and those
guys get their money and advertising, we've seen what they
can do by the people of the States and convincing them.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yeah, like the abortion issue in Issue one that's currently
pending right now, there is fat liberal money behind support
for Issue one, and I'm a firm no on it
to the extent you want to listen to me vote
no on one.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Right, Oh absolutely, Where I guess said, you know, most
of the money for Issue one, the current issue one,
as well as the previous ones, came from out of state,
a lot of it, even I from out of the country. Well,
you know, what do they do in metal in the
state of Ohio.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Well, and that's just going to be a phenomenon going
forward as the world has become an extremely close play
small place and foreign influence is really easy to accomplish
these days through just handing out checks to people to
go ahead and submit the campaign contributions directly to the
re elected representative, even though the money originated in a
(07:35):
foreign country. Crazy stuff going on out there. Tonight is
the night seven PM for Rob Tuttle talking about the
Constitutional Convention. Empower you America dot Org. I strongly encourage
you to get under there at anytime today register to
attend in person or to attend virtually. Rob, good luck tonight,
have an enjoyable conversation. I know the pro folks are
going to be there. We had a woman calling Diana
(07:56):
called in earlier said their folks are going to be
in the audience.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Oh good, Well promised.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
To play nice I talked to those folks all the time.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Good so she promised to play nicely with you.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
We always play nicely with each other. But can I
just take one second to put in a plug for
Orlando Sanza because I've had this Yeah. So Orlando, I
know I've heard him speak about the enumerated powers in
the Constitution. I know he's a fiscal hockey's a CPA.
He's anxious to get on the budget committee up in Congress.
And we wouldn't have a budget problem or an out
(08:29):
of control spending problem if we had people like Orlando
Sanza in Congress who would obey the constitution that we
currently have. A man, I don't know why people think
that if Congress doesn't obey the Constitution today that merely
adding a couple of new amendments to the Constitution is
all of a sudden they're going to start obeying it.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Echoing the comments from a listener that made earlier this morning,
he said the exact same thing.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Rob had fun tonight.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Enjoy the conversation, folks, tune in through the empower Youamerica
dot org website. Rob's a real pleasure to have you
on the pro today. Thanks for what you're doing. Thank you, Brian,
Thank my pleasure.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Brother. Folks.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
If you didn't hear Donovan and ne the Americans for Prospered,
you got a few of several events going on this
Saturday you can participate, and starting to encourage you to
get over to AFP action to do so. Marine Corps
retired Colonel William Dunn talking about that pager attack in
the Middle East. Fascinating that and of course Jay Ratliffe
and the information about the seminar tonight, all at fifty
five KRC dot com, who you can tune tomorrow for
(09:25):
Tech Friday with Dave Hatter. Have a wonderful day, folks,
and keep your prayers going down to the people impacted
by the two hurricanes. They need all the help we
can get. And again I'll put a plug in for
Matthew twenty five, just because I know your buck will
go a long, long, longer way than most other charitable organizations.
Have a wonderful day, folks, stick around. Glenbeck's coming right
up October.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Thanks for getting crazy by the day is sounding on.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
I'm just waiting on some October surprise.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Now fifty five KRC the talkstation, and this report is
spawned
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