Alex Triantafilou - NO on Issue 1

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
If you've have krc DE talk station. Brian Thomas wishing
everyone a very happy Wednesday. One hour from now Joe
Jennita Politano right now, head of the Ohio Republican Party,
Alex Trantefilo, to offer his thoughts and comments about Issue one,
the jerrymandering ballot issue. Actually it's a constitutional amendment. Welcome back,
Alex Tranntefilo. It's always a pleasure to have you on

(00:21):
the program.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Frank, good morning to you.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Always a pleasure to be on this ballot issue.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
I just reading it, you know, And I talked to
the pro issue too guy last week and I made
myself deprecating comment. You know, I got seven years of college,
a practice law for you know, eighteen years or whatever,
another radio for eighteen years, and I'm a member of MENSA,
and I still don't get it. It doesn't make any
blanking sense. It is the most convoluted process I have
ever encountered, I think, regarding the establishment of a so

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called independent body which will basically do the jerrymandering work
that our elected officials are doing. I know my elected
officials accountable, well, I can vote against him or her
and check them out of office. If I'm unhappy with
their conduct, that's not so with this issue. Alex, what's
your take on this? Break it down for my listeners
who may be even less familiar than I am with
the insanity that I find this to be.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Well, my language is going to be as strong or stronger.
This is a scam. It's a scam, and it's a
lie being perpetrated to Ohiolands by far left wing special
interest groups. And look, you know, Brian, how many times
in our life have we heard the words follow the money, right,
follow the money of who is supporting this endeavor. It's
out there for anybody to look at. There's plenty now

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of information out there about Issue one. Over twenty five
million dollars an out of state special interest dollars are
flowing into Ohio for you to see these commercials and
for these guys who have gotten and paid people to
put this on the ballot. So the money is coming
from places like New York and Washington, D C. And
San Francisco. And it's a million here, two millionaire, four

(02:00):
billion here. Four million of it we know came from
a Swiss billionaire who wants to be you know, impose
his progressive worldview into places like Ohio. But let's break
it down. If this thing passes, if Issue one passes,
it will be a fifteen member commission that's totally unelected.
You cannot remove this commission. You can't even really talk

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to them, Brian. Under the current proposal, you can't lobby them.
You can't you know, you can't show up and well
you can't a public session, but you can't have any
communication with them to share your view on what the
public lines ought to be us to look like as
we're drawing, you know, congressional and state legislative district boundary.
So you know, if you can't, I mean, when what world?

Speaker 3 (02:42):
Brian?

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Who lived in the United States? Where you cannot talk
to the people setting public policy? We in America are
used to electing everything from the school board right in
our neighborhood all the way to the President of the
United States. If you don't like what the president says,
you can protest and talk to him and then they'll
take a meeting with you. You can tell him how you feel.
In this circumstance, this commission, this fifteen member unelected bureaucracy,

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will begin drawing legislative boundaries and again, the far left
special interest money that's pouring into Ohio will make it
so that the Democrats can win more seats. That's the bet,
is what this is all about. When you cut through
all of the nonsense. This is so that Ohio, for instance,
has ten Republicans and five Democrats who go to Washington
to represent us and make up the United States House representatives.

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If they can pick off one, two, three, god forbid, four,
five or six more seats for Democrats in Ohio, they
can make Hakeem Jeffries the Speaker of the House. So
this is a much much bigger play than just Ohio.
This has everything to do with national politics and empowering
the Democrats in Washington, d C. To take the speaker's devil.

(03:49):
That's plain and simple. That's why every Republican, in every
Republican I know of an America and any position of leadership,
Donald Trump has come out as.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
A no Mike the Wine, right.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Those two guys don't always agree on everything, right, But
the bottom line is both Republicans both strongly against this.
Every single Republican elected official in this state, every single legislature.
This is a terrible plan. And now it's finally coming out, Brian,
and I'm sorry, I'm on my soapbox here, but now
it's coming out. This is the woman who actually served
on a similar panel in Michigan against She was part

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of a panel Michigan did this already. It was a
total failure, got struck down by the courts. She's public
today and I would urge you in Brian out Texas, PA,
that you can share it. It's in the Toledo Blade.
She came out very publicly and said, do not do
this in Ohio. And you know what her main argument was,
this split up African American communities because they have to
jerrymander the lines to meet a proportionality requirement, which means

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that they have to jerry mander to squeeze Democrat districts
out of currently Republican districts the neighborhoods. So what happened
in Michigan is they lost African American representation. And the
African American community rose up in Michigan and said, you're
stripping us of members of the African American community that
are serving in the legislative bodies. So this thing is

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just a disaster for Ohio. I was on a bus
all of last week at thirty different counties campaigning against it.
We're going to spend the next three weeks educating Republicans,
Independence and Democrats alike that Issue one is bad policy,
and we're urging.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
A no vote Boston.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
I'm going to bring it back because I've got a
couple of soundbites for the pro Issue one. They sound
nice and tasty and appealing, but I think the reality
when you peel back the thin veneer of the arguments
is the polar opposite. We'll let Alex elaborate more. We
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Speaker 1 (07:40):
Seven forty Here I fift about KERRC the talk station.
Brian Thomas happy to have the Ohio Republican Party Chairman
Alex Chranthapila long talking about Issue one. It is a
constitutional amendment which is problematic in and of itself. But
the thing is that the language of the ballot initiative
is longer than the entire Constitution of the United States
of America from what I've read, but more fundamentally, the

(08:01):
ads in favor of Issue one, they keep politicians out
of the process.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
And they're not a.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Politician, an elected official is not even allowed to serve
on this so called independent committee, are they, Alex.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
I know, you know this is something like this is
like the Affordable Care Act or the Inflation Reduction Act.
They did the opposite, Brian. You know, we all know
as Americans. This is what politicians do. They label something
one way. They call this anti jerrymandering. In fact, it's not.
It is jerrymandering. The Ohio Supreme Court looked at Issue
one and the language and said this can reasonably be

(08:37):
called jerrymandering because that's what it is. Yeah. So the
important part of this though, and you just hit on it,
and I want to answer your question directly, is that's right.
None of these people are elected to these jobs. They're
totally unaccountable. It's an unaccountable bureaucracy, and it is. It's
thirty thousand words. It will nearly double the size of
our state constitution. So it's Look, it's a scam, left

(09:00):
wing power grab. It's designed to build off of what
you know people's general anxiety with jerry mandering, and jerry
mandering is not a positive thing for Ohio. We've passed
anti jerry mandering protections in the state, Brian by seventy
percent of the vote in both twenty fifteen and twenty eighteen,
So we have tackled that. There's more work to do.
There always is, you know, I Brian has said to

(09:21):
everybody around the state. You know, I'm a Republican, I'm
a conservative. I always think government can improve. We ought
to do a continuing improvement process in everything. So can
this process be improved? Sure it can, So can everything else,
especially in the world of government. This is not that
this is a left wing power grab and it's being
sold to ohiolands is an anti jerrymandering provision, when in

(09:42):
fact it will put jerry manner there into the state constitution.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Well, I guess you know my initial point really, and
I don't disagree with anything just said, but might we
want someone who has been an elected official at one
point to be on the committee since maybe they have
information that might help in this process. They exclude entire
categories of folks. Someone had told me, and I never
did was able to verify this. Maybe you can that

(10:08):
if you served in the American military, you're not eligible
to be on this panel.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yes, it's arguable that you cannot, and that issue may
be litigated. But yeah, because you know that's a person
who's previously been in government in some capacity, that person
may not be able to serve. A police officer may
not be able to serve.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
That could be a qualifying thing.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Though again, you know, the world's filled with all kinds
of people from a broad, broad spectrum of incomes and
political philosophies, and we could go on and on. Just
to exclude someone simply because they have held elected office
or served in the American military, to me, is just
absolutely arbitrary and ridiculous. But then again, you know, I
talked to the guy who was pro Yes last week
and he said, well, it's worked in other states. And

(10:50):
there's that word work. What does work mean? Isn't that
based on a subjective opinion of what worked for you
or your political party. Hey, we got a bunch of
Democrats elected to these other states.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
It worked, that's what they mean. They mean it worked to.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Elect Democrats, because that's what this is all about. You know,
Brian again just for thirty seconds. Here. What's happened in
Ohio over the last ten years is the state is
now a more republican state. It's not a more republican state,
by the way, because of a demographic shift. It's a
more republican state because of the leftward shift of the

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Democratic Party. This state has changed politically because the Democrats
have changed. I've been in this state my whole life.
Probably you have too, Ohio, and I've gotten to know
it even better over the last couple of years being
our state chairman. I can tell you this state hasn't changed.
So the population hasn't shifted. The Democrats went so far
of the left, Brian. They talk about social issues all

(11:47):
the time. They're not talking about things like inflation and
crime and common sense kitchen table issues that affect Ohioans
and Americans. They're talking about this crazy stuff like sports
and you know, stuff that has nothing to do with
the kitchen tabush. So Ohio went read, Ohio went red,
and under Donald Trump he helped make it read. So
now we've won a lot of races in Ohio. And

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this is the Democrats answer. It's to try to put
issue one in the law into our Constitution so they
can start to win elections and gain power both in
Columbus and in Washington DC. This has nothing to do
with good government, has nothing to do with citizens in
this process.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
It's all to use.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Joe Biden's word, malarkey indeed, and then the other things.
There's a political spectrum out there. I know you're aware
of this. I'm painfully aware of it. Even within the
Democrat Party, the Republican Party, there is just such a wide,
wide birth in terms of what people believe in, what
their values are, what they think the policies of the
party are. But then again, you've got a lot of
independence out there. The guy in the program, the Vote

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Yes guy, said seventy percent of Ohioans are independent, and
like scratching my head, going R well, he just based
his pulling off of the primary voting. And we all
know how skewed that is and how weird that is
compared to a general election. In the final analysis, at
some point in this convoluted process, they're gonna have thirty Republicans,
thirty Democrats, and thirty independents. And I was like, well,

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what is an independent? You could have communists, you have
Green Party people, you could have literally anybody across the
entire spectrum of politics all the way over to some
clan member. In terms of politics, how are you going
to determine who gets to be within the thirty so
called independence or you know, considering the broad spectrum of

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politics on either side of the R and D same thing.
I mean, it's just it's it's sort of like, well, no,
it's going to be evenly balanced.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
That does not answer the question, well.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Yeah, and that that individual clearly doesn't understand the highest
voting rules. First of all, there's no such thing as
a registered Democratic or registered Republican in Ohio. What happens
in Ohio is you select your party primary ballot in
open primaries. So, if you Brian, you committed you conservative
leaning or liberty meaning conservative as I knowed you to be,

(14:02):
did you decided you wanted to be a Democrat? All
you have to do is walk into the polling location
saying I want a Democrat ballot. That doesn't you're not
registered with any party, you don't know any allegiance. So
this guy was wrong when he said seventy percent of
the Highlands were independents. I look at this data every
single day. I look at it more more than that
this time of year, and there's there are very few
actually people that are considered independence. Ultimately, when you look

(14:24):
at the balloting, and some people may consider themselves that
that they're voting, trends show them to be in one
party or the other. But you've also nailed another important
component of this thing, and that is when you draw
these lines proportionally according to its language, you must draw
them by political affiliation, right Bran. That is the definition
of Jerry Man.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
I know, I know anyhow, and the formula to get
from here to there is so crazy. I don't know,
Alex Chranth, I feel I can't think enough. If if
all the Republicans get the message, and I imagine you
would strongly encourage every one of my listening audiences to
spread the word on this to their Republican or Conservative
leading friends. Did an outright know on issue one, the

(15:05):
way the state is trending, Trump's ahead, I think eight
points or something. Bernie Moreno, actually I think is ahead.
The most recent memo internal memo within the Republicans. If
everybody would vote know on this, we would be okay
if the state goes the direction it's currently going.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
That's right, then I would urge people to read the
language to the language is very clear about what this does.
And thank god Republicans on the ballot board and both
on the Supreme Court, you know, put the appropriate language
before Ohio voter. So look read the language.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
You'll see.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
It puts jerrymandering into our constitution. It puts an unelected
bureaucracy in charge of the process that affects your life.
It's a no vote on Issue one. Tell all your
friends follow us on social media. We've done a ton
of social media on this, on Facebook and Twitter. It's
on our website as well. So don't believe all those ads.
Those ads are twenty five million dollars of out of

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state money pouring into Ohio trying to convince Ohilands, you know,
just to see it their way.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
So ignore all that vote.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
No and look at the list of those who the
endorsed organizations who have endorsed Issue one. It's a litany
of unions and left wing organizations top to bottom, Alex
Trantefila ahead of the legal women.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Voters being first among them. That's a left wing intro scoop.
And don't be pooled by that left Legal Women Voters
is a far left interest group, so again, don't be
fooled by them either.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
So thank you.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
That's just one of a whole bunch of them too.
Thank you Alex Chrantefila out of the Republican Party here
in the state of Aye. We'll talk again. Keep up
the great work, and thanks for the time you spoke
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