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Speaker 1 (00:59):
Eight two day. It is that time of week where
we do it. Daniel Davis Deep Dive. You can find
his podcast online where we get your podcast. Daniel Davis,
retired Lieutenant Colonel. It is always a pleasure to have
you on the program, and I wish we had better
news to talk about, but let's dive right on into it.
The Russia Ukraine situation day one thousand and I look
(01:19):
up and see that Vladimir Putin just signed a revised
nuclear doctrine today saying that any attack on Russia supported
by a country with nuclear power US could be grounds
for a nuclear response. That's frightening stuff. Daniel Davis, welcome
back to the fifty five KRC Morning Show. It's always
a pleasure to having you on the show.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Yeah, well, thanks for having me back, and ordinarly i'd
be a little more shueblint about being on your show.
But goodness gracious, because what you just said is coupled
with the reported first use of long range attackem's weapons
inside Russia one thousand kilometers deep inside of Russia, and
those things come in together on the one thousandth day
(02:02):
of war, in my view, is the most dangerous place
we've been since this thing began, because in essence, what
we have done by Biden allowing this weapons to be
used is to call Putin's bluff. And so now we
have put Putin in a position, are you gonna make
good on your previous threats that if long range weapons
were used you would consider it a direct participation by
(02:22):
the West and the war and take commensurate action. Or
is he going to back down? Is he just going
to make this statement about, you know, change nuclear doctrine
and that's it, or is he going to actually do something.
That's the position that we have put him in right now,
and that's a bad, bad place to be and an
incredibly irresponsible move on the president. I have been I
(02:44):
have demurred for the most part, you know, when when
Biden has done things over his nearly four years now
in office. But this is the most egregious and unnecessary
risk that he has taken to date.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Well, and that was going to be the basis of
my initial question to you before or Putant none of
this announced, this new strategy or this new protocol. Why
did Biden approve the use of these longer range missiles
into the interior of Russia? Everybody knows that we're in
control of them. Everybody's been paying attention to the issue
knows they require American soldiers using to operate them. Because
(03:21):
of the sophisticated nature of them, as well as the
proprietary and I guess high level security clearance. You need
to be able to connect with the resources that allow
them to work and be accurate. All of it suggests
you know, you think about advisors in Vietnam. Welcome to
advisors in Ukraine. That's what we're doing. That's what we're there.
And since they launched them, clearly we have to do
(03:43):
so we have something to do with it.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Yeah, and you're specifically talking about military personnel. Yes, the
USR and forces have to be participating.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
So I eat what.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Putin said turns out to be accurate. And listen, you
asked the reason why why would Biden do this? The
sensible claim in both the Wall Street Journal and the
Washington Post when this news broke that the permission had
been given, The unnamed senior Administration officials said, it's because
of North Korea. It's because they have ten thousand troops there,
(04:15):
and this is to send a signal to Pyongyang not
to Moscow, except now then these missiles were not fired
around the Coursk area, where the alleged by the way,
still not have been independently confirmed. They're actually there, but
a thousand kilometers in the Bryonsk area e nowhere close
to where the North Korean troops allegedly are, So that
(04:35):
puts to the lie the claim that that's the reason
they're being used. So we have some real difficult questions
to answer here, and I really hope that the media
puts President Biden's feet to the fire on this and says, hey,
what are you trying to do because there is no
and I mean zero military utility and using a handful
(04:58):
of long range weapons at this point, nearly three years
into the war, on the one thousandth day, it's not
going to make any difference. And by the way, Secretary
of State Austin on sixth of September expressly stated that
it's not going to make a difference in the war.
It won't change anything on the front lines. We don't
have enough missiles. UK and France don't have enough missiles
(05:19):
to have a sustained engagement that it would be required
for long range missiles, you can't do with a few
one offs. As you saw, most of them got shot down,
if not all of them, And now here we are
at a possible red line crossing.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
I just I find it hard that we see that
we're staring over the brink of this moment in history
and it does not look good now. The troops and
I'm not going to defend North Korea in any way,
shape or form. I'm not going to defend Russia in
their active assault on Ukraine. And they intact them and
they invaded them, and I understand all that, but there's
(05:54):
nothing illegal necessarily unless in fact, the North Koreans have
been on the front lines that are literally fighting the
I think there's a big question mark swirling about that.
Maybe you can answer that. But if there's a whole
bunch of North Korean somewhere in Russia, what's the big
deal unless they actively engage in war. So you're shooting
into the interior of Russia in order to perhaps go
(06:14):
after a target that doesn't have any military use or purpose.
Could possibly if they started engaging in combat. But you're
talking about a finite amount of missiles with a limited
impact in terms of their destructive power, most of which
is you pointed out got shot down. This seems to
be an absolutely pointless gesture what it is.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
And I think I've said on some of the previous
episodes that we've been on together that the Russians a
long time ago, when the high Mar systems came in,
because they have a very similar guidance system etc. They're
electronic warfare, had basically rendered them meaningless. You hardly ever
hear about a high Mar strike anymore. So that we
don't give a missiles, it's that they don't hit the target.
(06:57):
And the same with the attacks we gave permission on
a limited basis for that near the front some number
of months ago. You don't hardly ever hear anything about
Attackum's missiles because Russia has figured out how to deflect
or shoot down most of them. So then the question
is why in God's name then, with something that has
very limited even tactical utility, would you want to allow
(07:19):
something to be fired at a strategic depth. And this
was fired by the way, at a base where missiles
were a missile depot warehouse. It had nothing to do
with North Korea at all, not even allegedly. It was
a missile depot in Russia and they were trying to
take that out. That's according to the Ukrainian military that
released that this morning. So then you get back to
the again your very pointy question, what is the point here?
(07:41):
What are you trying to accomplish? Because there is nothing
of value militarily that you can gain by this, but
there is enormous potential for escalation because Russia would respond
against us, which is what they've claimed. That's why I'm saying,
I'm so worried because we have put putin in a place.
You don't want to put a caged bait in a
position to either have to fight or flight. Yeah, because
(08:03):
it's likely he's gonna fight.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Yeah, he does seem to be a bit of a
loose canyon that canon, Daniel Davis. Now, as to my
understanding also is that Russia recently entered into a mutual
defense treaty with North Korea, so if one gets attacked,
the other will run to its defense. Are we in
that moment in time as well? Did I read that correctly?
Speaker 3 (08:23):
That is correct, that they've been They had a number
of agreements had already been signed in the military sphere,
especially with coordination and equipment, had been coming over and
and you know, my belief, my speculation, because I don't
have any hard facts to back this up with, but
I suspect that North Korea probably said, hey, let me
(08:43):
send some of my troops over there to get some
combat experience or be trained by your combat experience guys,
so that I can bring the back train to trainer
kind of thing and make my whole force better based
on modern combat techniques. That makes some sense, because it
doesn't make any sense that Russia, you know, is a
sign of weakness, which so many in the West want
to characterize this, claiming, oh, we'll see they don't have
(09:04):
enough troops. No, right, they have enough troops. There is
no shortage of troops in Russia. In fact, that number
continues to grow. So this might be something that Kim
Jong un wanted in exchange for all these rockets and
ammunition that they've been sending to Russia, not that Putin
needs them. So yeah, if that's what they're trying to do,
then then that's that's the situation.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
And it could be for North Korea, not for Russia's benefits.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Well, merely, I believe it is for North Korea's benefit
and ultimately that comes back to North Korea and South Korea,
which obviously have had their problems of their own since
the end of that or the well, whatever that conflict was,
whatever we call that conflict, the Korean War, I think
we loosely refer to it as although there was no declaration,
all right, I don't want to have to move away
(09:50):
from from Russia. I saw that the Swedes announced to
their citizen reay to prepare for nuclear war, not as
a very unsettling thing. And also that that that inner
cable that was severed just the other day as well,
obviously a revelation of it to me how easy it
is to accomplish such a devastating something, to have such
(10:15):
a devastating impact, which really amounts to taking a pair
of plyers and cutting a cable. I know it's more
complicated than that that just happened the other day with
one of these undersea internet cables. That could happen on
a broader scale and be unbelievably complicating from a global perspective.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
It could. That's been one of the concerns that many
people have been voicing for the last couple of years,
actually that if things got bad enough, Russia has the capacity,
you know, as a state with you know, submarines that
they can take out in innerity anything that they want
to anywhere and would have a crippling effect economically on
the on the West, certainly the United States, but the
West in general. And by the way, just as a
(10:52):
point here, I saw I was perusing the headlines in
the Russian media just before coming on here, and it
said that there is a large scale use of expanded
nuclear shelters being built throughout Russia and there's this big
push on for that. So they are concerned about that
and are taking actions as well on the Russian side. Well,
(11:13):
I wish I could walk away from this conversation feel
a little more comfortable by global affairs Daniel Davis, But
today I don't think I am, And sadly we're out
of time. I wanted to get to Israel and what's
going on there. We can save that for another day,
and hopefully that day will be next Tuesday when we
do another edition of The Deep Dive with Daniel Davis. Daniel,
it's been a real pleasure, as it always has been,
to get your knowledge and your expertise on things military,
(11:36):
and we'll do it again next Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
My friend always a pleasure of my friend. Thank you
as it is for me. It's eight forty one folks.
If you have carec the talk stations. Stick around. Our
legal expert Steve Gooden returns to the program to talk
about again Pennsylvania in related matters. So I hope you
can stick a
Mails Channel nine first one of weather work. Gust tells
us that we have well a little in the rain today,
it'll be tapering off. We have partly Clyde skis all
day going up to sixty eight overnight, a little forty
seven with klouds bouty Tomorrow, isolated midday showers of possibility
with a higher fifty five thirty four overnight cooling down
files again Thursday with a rain snow possibility going up
(00:23):
to forty degrees. Right now it's fifty six degrees. In
time for a traffic update.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Chuck Ingram from the UCL Tramfic Center. You one of
the thirty eight million Americans impacted by diabetes. Get personalized
education and treatment options from the experts at you see
Help learn more at you see health dot com. Sethbound
seventy one continues to run close to an extra half hour.
Fields rdle down to Red Bank West. Two seventy five's
ramped to northbound seventy one. Cruis are working with an accident.
(00:48):
There's a new wreck inbound Columbia Parkway. Before you get
to Fort Washington, Waite left lane block. Chuck ingramont fifty
five krs. The talk station.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Eight two day. It is that time of week where
we do it. Daniel Davis Deep Dive. You can find
his podcast online where we get your podcast. Daniel Davis,
retired Lieutenant Colonel. It is always a pleasure to have
you on the program, and I wish we had better
news to talk about, but let's dive right on into it.
The Russia Ukraine situation day one thousand and I look
(01:19):
up and see that Vladimir Putin just signed a revised
nuclear doctrine today saying that any attack on Russia supported
by a country with nuclear power US could be grounds
for a nuclear response. That's frightening stuff. Daniel Davis, welcome
back to the fifty five KRC Morning Show. It's always
a pleasure to having you on the show.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Yeah, well, thanks for having me back, and ordinarly i'd
be a little more shueblint about being on your show.
But goodness gracious, because what you just said is coupled
with the reported first use of long range attackem's weapons
inside Russia one thousand kilometers deep inside of Russia, and
those things come in together on the one thousandth day
(02:02):
of war, in my view, is the most dangerous place
we've been since this thing began, because in essence, what
we have done by Biden allowing this weapons to be
used is to call Putin's bluff. And so now we
have put Putin in a position, are you gonna make
good on your previous threats that if long range weapons
were used you would consider it a direct participation by
(02:22):
the West and the war and take commensurate action. Or
is he going to back down? Is he just going
to make this statement about, you know, change nuclear doctrine
and that's it, or is he going to actually do something.
That's the position that we have put him in right now,
and that's a bad, bad place to be and an
incredibly irresponsible move on the president. I have been I
(02:44):
have demurred for the most part, you know, when when
Biden has done things over his nearly four years now
in office. But this is the most egregious and unnecessary
risk that he has taken to date.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Well, and that was going to be the basis of
my initial question to you before or Putant none of
this announced, this new strategy or this new protocol. Why
did Biden approve the use of these longer range missiles
into the interior of Russia? Everybody knows that we're in
control of them. Everybody's been paying attention to the issue
knows they require American soldiers using to operate them. Because
(03:21):
of the sophisticated nature of them, as well as the
proprietary and I guess high level security clearance. You need
to be able to connect with the resources that allow
them to work and be accurate. All of it suggests
you know, you think about advisors in Vietnam. Welcome to
advisors in Ukraine. That's what we're doing. That's what we're there.
And since they launched them, clearly we have to do
(03:43):
so we have something to do with it.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Yeah, and you're specifically talking about military personnel. Yes, the
USR and forces have to be participating.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
So I eat what.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Putin said turns out to be accurate. And listen, you
asked the reason why why would Biden do this? The
sensible claim in both the Wall Street Journal and the
Washington Post when this news broke that the permission had
been given, The unnamed senior Administration officials said, it's because
of North Korea. It's because they have ten thousand troops there,
(04:15):
and this is to send a signal to Pyongyang not
to Moscow, except now then these missiles were not fired
around the Coursk area, where the alleged by the way,
still not have been independently confirmed. They're actually there, but
a thousand kilometers in the Bryonsk area e nowhere close
to where the North Korean troops allegedly are, So that
(04:35):
puts to the lie the claim that that's the reason
they're being used. So we have some real difficult questions
to answer here, and I really hope that the media
puts President Biden's feet to the fire on this and says, hey,
what are you trying to do because there is no
and I mean zero military utility and using a handful
(04:58):
of long range weapons at this point, nearly three years
into the war, on the one thousandth day, it's not
going to make any difference. And by the way, Secretary
of State Austin on sixth of September expressly stated that
it's not going to make a difference in the war.
It won't change anything on the front lines. We don't
have enough missiles. UK and France don't have enough missiles
(05:19):
to have a sustained engagement that it would be required
for long range missiles, you can't do with a few
one offs. As you saw, most of them got shot down,
if not all of them, And now here we are
at a possible red line crossing.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
I just I find it hard that we see that
we're staring over the brink of this moment in history
and it does not look good now. The troops and
I'm not going to defend North Korea in any way,
shape or form. I'm not going to defend Russia in
their active assault on Ukraine. And they intact them and
they invaded them, and I understand all that, but there's
(05:54):
nothing illegal necessarily unless in fact, the North Koreans have
been on the front lines that are literally fighting the
I think there's a big question mark swirling about that.
Maybe you can answer that. But if there's a whole
bunch of North Korean somewhere in Russia, what's the big
deal unless they actively engage in war. So you're shooting
into the interior of Russia in order to perhaps go
(06:14):
after a target that doesn't have any military use or purpose.
Could possibly if they started engaging in combat. But you're
talking about a finite amount of missiles with a limited
impact in terms of their destructive power, most of which
is you pointed out got shot down. This seems to
be an absolutely pointless gesture what it is.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
And I think I've said on some of the previous
episodes that we've been on together that the Russians a
long time ago, when the high Mar systems came in,
because they have a very similar guidance system etc. They're
electronic warfare, had basically rendered them meaningless. You hardly ever
hear about a high Mar strike anymore. So that we
don't give a missiles, it's that they don't hit the target.
(06:57):
And the same with the attacks we gave permission on
a limited basis for that near the front some number
of months ago. You don't hardly ever hear anything about
Attackum's missiles because Russia has figured out how to deflect
or shoot down most of them. So then the question
is why in God's name then, with something that has
very limited even tactical utility, would you want to allow
(07:19):
something to be fired at a strategic depth. And this
was fired by the way, at a base where missiles
were a missile depot warehouse. It had nothing to do
with North Korea at all, not even allegedly. It was
a missile depot in Russia and they were trying to
take that out. That's according to the Ukrainian military that
released that this morning. So then you get back to
the again your very pointy question, what is the point here?
(07:41):
What are you trying to accomplish? Because there is nothing
of value militarily that you can gain by this, but
there is enormous potential for escalation because Russia would respond
against us, which is what they've claimed. That's why I'm saying,
I'm so worried because we have put putin in a place.
You don't want to put a caged bait in a
position to either have to fight or flight. Yeah, because
(08:03):
it's likely he's gonna fight.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Yeah, he does seem to be a bit of a
loose canyon that canon, Daniel Davis. Now, as to my
understanding also is that Russia recently entered into a mutual
defense treaty with North Korea, so if one gets attacked,
the other will run to its defense. Are we in
that moment in time as well? Did I read that correctly?
Speaker 3 (08:23):
That is correct, that they've been They had a number
of agreements had already been signed in the military sphere,
especially with coordination and equipment, had been coming over and
and you know, my belief, my speculation, because I don't
have any hard facts to back this up with, but
I suspect that North Korea probably said, hey, let me
(08:43):
send some of my troops over there to get some
combat experience or be trained by your combat experience guys,
so that I can bring the back train to trainer
kind of thing and make my whole force better based
on modern combat techniques. That makes some sense, because it
doesn't make any sense that Russia, you know, is a
sign of weakness, which so many in the West want
to characterize this, claiming, oh, we'll see they don't have
(09:04):
enough troops. No, right, they have enough troops. There is
no shortage of troops in Russia. In fact, that number
continues to grow. So this might be something that Kim
Jong un wanted in exchange for all these rockets and
ammunition that they've been sending to Russia, not that Putin
needs them. So yeah, if that's what they're trying to do,
then then that's that's the situation.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
And it could be for North Korea, not for Russia's benefits.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Well, merely, I believe it is for North Korea's benefit
and ultimately that comes back to North Korea and South Korea,
which obviously have had their problems of their own since
the end of that or the well, whatever that conflict was,
whatever we call that conflict, the Korean War, I think
we loosely refer to it as although there was no declaration,
all right, I don't want to have to move away
(09:50):
from from Russia. I saw that the Swedes announced to
their citizen reay to prepare for nuclear war, not as
a very unsettling thing. And also that that that inner
cable that was severed just the other day as well,
obviously a revelation of it to me how easy it
is to accomplish such a devastating something, to have such
(10:15):
a devastating impact, which really amounts to taking a pair
of plyers and cutting a cable. I know it's more
complicated than that that just happened the other day with
one of these undersea internet cables. That could happen on
a broader scale and be unbelievably complicating from a global perspective.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
It could. That's been one of the concerns that many
people have been voicing for the last couple of years,
actually that if things got bad enough, Russia has the capacity,
you know, as a state with you know, submarines that
they can take out in innerity anything that they want
to anywhere and would have a crippling effect economically on
the on the West, certainly the United States, but the
West in general. And by the way, just as a
(10:52):
point here, I saw I was perusing the headlines in
the Russian media just before coming on here, and it
said that there is a large scale use of expanded
nuclear shelters being built throughout Russia and there's this big
push on for that. So they are concerned about that
and are taking actions as well on the Russian side. Well,
(11:13):
I wish I could walk away from this conversation feel
a little more comfortable by global affairs Daniel Davis, But
today I don't think I am, And sadly we're out
of time. I wanted to get to Israel and what's
going on there. We can save that for another day,
and hopefully that day will be next Tuesday when we
do another edition of The Deep Dive with Daniel Davis. Daniel,
it's been a real pleasure, as it always has been,
to get your knowledge and your expertise on things military,
(11:36):
and we'll do it again next Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
My friend always a pleasure of my friend. Thank you
as it is for me. It's eight forty one folks.
If you have carec the talk stations. Stick around. Our
legal expert Steve Gooden returns to the program to talk
about again Pennsylvania in related matters. So I hope you
can stick a
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