55KRC Tuesday Show - Mises University, Breitbart, Daniel Davis

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Why BO five. I think you about k r C
the talk station Tuesday, end of my work week, some say, skin,

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there's a woo woo kind of my version of Friday
to day and then tomorrow off and enjoying the Thanksgiving
holiday which I dearly love, and sleeping in. So I
got a lot to look forward to over the next
several days, and I hope you do too. I hope
everyone's in a celebratory mood can sit down with family
and enjoy their Thanksgiving without yelling at each other and
without getting ridiculous. It seems to be a kind of

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a general trend and fme out there a lot of
people talking about doing exactly that, which I think is
a wonderful, wonderful thing. And some of the division that's
been fostered and encouraged by so many people just looking
to undermine America generally speaking. And I've been convinced of
that for a long long time. Any division, any area
where people can just stir the pot of anger, they

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go right for it. They the forces that want to
undermine us, the United States of America, you know, comment
about the flag on many occasions, you know, seemed to
be that there was a time in my life anyway
that the United States Flag old glory represented a symbol
of unity, that everyone of any political stripe could look
at it and say, hey, thank god I live in America.

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It stands for freedom and liberty and my right to
speak my mind and say what's on it. And somewhere
along the way, I guess it just became the vogue
thing to I don't know, burn it or cited as
a symbol of I don't know, division itself, racism. Perhaps

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some people see that coming up. Tom de Lorenzo, president
of the mississ Institute, got a documentary playing with fire, money,
banking and the Federal Reserve. That's at seven o five.
It should be very interesting at eight o five. Fast
forward to eight o five, Oliver Lane, the London bureau

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chief from bright Barton News with the inside scoop while
we're celebrating the Trump when Europe is on the brink
of war. That has some truth to it, that sort
of summary statement I've talked about on that and Daniel
Davis deep dive. We're gonna be talking about Europe, Ukraine, Russia,
World War three, all of the dangerous things going on

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in the world, and you know, to that end. I
saw this article and reported several different places. The top
NATO official is warning companies and this is a sound proposition.
It's sad that we have to talk about it, but
the issue is, companies, are you prepared to deal with

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a wartime scenario? Are you prepared to deal with supply
chain interruptions? Are you prepared to decouple from China? China
who very well could use the economic relationships that they
have built up over the past several decades where they
have become the sole supplier of goods and resources for
various industries like electric vehicles, et cetera, and rare earth

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minerals and things. Are you prepared to deal in a
world where China decides to cut you off? Very interesting?
So he's the native military commander in chief or committee chief.
A guy named Lieutenant Admiral Rob Bauer said Western companies
doing business in or with China should be prepared for

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the Chinese Communist Party to make use of those ties
in the event of a conflict. Now, the illustration, he cided, is,
look what happened to Europe with Russia. Remember gas from
Europe is getting all of its gas from Russia. And
next thing. You know, Russia's pulling the plug, Europe's decoupling
from Russia, and of course everyone struggles and suffers as

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a consequence of it. He said, We're naive if we
think the Communist Party will never use that power, i e.
The power that they have established with these strong business ties.
We learned a lot about this during COVID. Now, didn't
we Where do our pharmaceuticals come from? That does come
up in his comments. They come from China and we

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all know that by now, at least I hope everybody
does that China is responsible for unleashing COVID on the globe. Anyway,
we're naive if we think the Communist Party will never
use that power. Business leaders in Europe and America need
to realize the commercial decisions they make have strategic consequences
for the security of their nation. Business needs to be

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prepared for a wartime scenario and adjust their production and
distribution lines accordingly, because while it may be the military
who wins battles, it's the economies that win wars. It's
a sound point. And then he pointed a gas prom
majority own Russian by the Russian government before Russian invaded

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Ukraine in twenty twenty two, Russia was Europe's largest supplier
of natural gas. It was transported through ah Ukraine HMM.
Russia put in that gas export ban in place, European
Union and the United States sanctioned many Russian companies. Some
but not all, European countries stopped importing Russian gas, and

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that obviously created a huge problem. So pivoting over to
the Chinese commenter's Jesien Ping Chinese Communist Party leader Jji
and Ping, he pointed out that you know, Ji could
unilaterally impose restrictions on industries in China, could affect the
global supply for example, And here we go, the world

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depends on China for rare earth minerals. Sixty percent is
produced in China, ninety percent is processed in China, so
even if they're not producing it, they're processing it there
for almost almost all of it. Critical pharmaceutical ingredients also

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come from China, including chemical ingredients for sedatives, antibiotics, anti inflammatories,
low blood pressure medications. And if you don't have your
own supply of that, you're going to have lives lost.
And remember the American military also does take sedatives, antibiotics,
anti inflammatories and low blood pressure medications, and if we're

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at war with China, and China could cut off those
supplies and our American military then lacks the pharmaceuticals it needs.
Maybe I don't know, stay alive or stay healthy, Bower said.
We're seeing that with the growing number of sabotage acts
in Europe has seen that with energy supply. We thought
we had a deal with gaz problem, but we actually

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had to deal with mister Putin. And the same goes
for Chinese own infrastructure and goods. We actually have to
deal with g right. Unlike I would argue in the
United States of America, where a company can legitimately do
business with an overseas entity and provide it with goods
or services or whatever without the stamp of approval from

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any given president. Any given president can't just come in
and end that contract unilaterally. That's not the case with
the Jijinping or of Vladimir Putin. There's sort of a
different political reality going on in those countries, right, you know,
basically one guy controls everything. Dictators, right, call it what
you will, that's the reality.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Now.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Bauer stress the national security aspect of business deals with
the Chinese and Russian regime say, if we can make
sure that all crucial services and goods can be delivered
no matter what, then that is a key part of
our deterrence. And what a beautiful and interesting and very
important point that is. If they know Jijing, Vladimir Putin, whoever,

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the person we're talking about who has dictatorial control over
the relationships between any product being shipped around the globe,
if they know that we have an alternative source to
get that particular product, then they're less inclined to weaponize
pulling that product from the market or declining to enforce

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or allow the terms and conditions of the contract to
go forward. We can't use that as a threat. Oh yeah,
well if you do that, if you defend Taiwan for example,
or if you defend Ukraine for example, then we're not
going to give you X, Y or Z. The response
from US and businesses globally this is Bowers warning to

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the world should be oh yeah, well, we've already got
an established relationship with somebody else. Say you take your
threats and stick them where the sun don't shine, because
they don't mean anything anymore. It's an amazing power, an
amazing power so bad he made it. I hate the
idea that this point has to be made, but it's

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not the first time that Bowers made these points. I
guess it was trying to figure out when that was.
He had previously stated, like a January was January. I'm
not going to say everything is going to go wrong tomorrow,
addressing the concerns expressed by media and others about oh

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my god, you're just trying to threaten us into panic
buying and self preparedness, and they said, I'm not going
to say everything is going to go wrong tomorrow, but
we have to realize it is not a given that
we are in peace, saying that there has to be
a wider social, societal realization that not everything is plannable,

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not everything is going to be hunky dory for the
next twenty years, but this is a reality. And if
you don't think we're at war now, just step back
from it. I brought this up just yesterday. I recall,
you know, the Chinese Communist Party infiltrating our entire infrastructure
with that computer virus, and fortunately, even though it had

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been lurking there in the background, literally infesting, innovating everything
that impacts our world. Every single day, water electricity communications
go on the whole list volt typhoon. That is an
act of war, or at least a preparation for war.
Flip the switch and shut the grid down is ultimately

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the conclusion I drew from that reality, and that stuff
is going on all the time. And I'm not saying
that we're not doing it ourselves and trying to infiltrate
the Chinese systems and the YadA YadA, YadA YadA. But
this is a current reality. And when you have a
war involving a global nuclear power like Russia and Ukraine,

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not a global nuclear power, but one that's being completely
supported by yes, nuclear powers like the United States of America,
where we are literally operating long range missiles on behalf
of the Ukrainian military into the nuclear power that is Russia,
you better damn well believe that this is you know,
we are on edge here, and this is the type

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of thing that needs to be discussed and planned for.
So it's nice that it is being discussed. And I
hope that the businesses of the world who have these
seemingly unbreakable ties with foreign powers that are not friendly
to us, e g. The Chinese Communist Party that they
might start looking around for Maybia supply chain, place that

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has a great relationship with the United States. Whether they're
out there, I don't know. You know your damn well,
better start thinking about it, because who knows what's going
to happen tomorrow. Plan I had five seventeen fifty five
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including Walmart and getting rid of its DEI policies, adding
to the growing list of folks that are chucking DEI
under the bus because it's stupid and it's insane and
uh well, one of the reasons Donald Trump won the
presidential election. That's what I'm gonna draw a conclusion on.
But back go over to this this situation Ukraine, and

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I thought this polls rather interesting. Growing up, you know
in America, longtime Republican or you know now little libertarians.
I have referred to myself now for at least the
past twenty years. I remember the Soviet Union, and I
remember being afraid of the Soviet Union. Arch enemy they were,
We didn't trade with them, we isolated them, and ultimately,

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you know, the fall of the Berlin Wall. Remember that
like it was yesterday and consider that reality. You know,
if you ever ever take a moment and think about
the idea of that wall, it was designed to keep
people in, not keep people out. You know, we think
about a southern border walls to keep people out from

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invading our country has nothing to dow with keeping the
American population in because we have a better place to
live and people want to flee wherever they are and
come here. Obviously, the pole are opposite in post World
War two Europe when nobody wanted to be a member
of the China of the Communist Party. But beyond that,

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my ultimate point was, you know, I always perceived the
Republicans to be more hawkish from a military perspective. Republicans
were always pushing for larger military budgets. And you know
the Democrats that talk about, you know, the guns and
butter curve and no, no, we need more social welfare spending,
we need to cut back on military and Republicans we no, no, no,

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we need security. And you know someplace that went all
off the rails and everybody wants to spend a whole
lot of money on the military. And now there's this
new poll out, and I know how we are about polls,
but I thought this was rather interesting. CBS News you
gov poll It did a poll conducted after Biden authorized
those American Army tactical missile systems as longer range missiles

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into Russia, and they determined that fifty one percent of
Americans do not support military aid and sending weapons to Ukraine.
The forty nine percent is so it's a slim margin,
but that they did a breakdown on demographics under sixty
five more inclined to oppose sending aid and weapons, while

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the majority of those over sixty five support helping Ukraine.
And that I'm guessing is a holdover from that Cold
War philosophy Russia BAT or Soviet Union BAT. You know,
we need to do everything we can to detrow the
Soviet unions in the Russian So I'm just my guess
on that. But then the further breakdown those under thirty

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fifty three percent against military aid, fifty four percent in
the thirty to forty four and forty five to sixty
four demographic against military aid, while six and ten. Americans
sixty five and old favor the weapons shipments in the
military aid. So it's that older demographic that is largely

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in favor of it. Now here's where it gets weird,
at least from my piect active along party lines, seventy
two percent of Democrats support aid to Ukraine military aid,
while sixty four percent of Republicans and fifty four percent
of Independence oppose it. And that's the flip that I

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found so fascinating. Is at least it seems like a
flip to me. So's a margin era plus or mine
a two point two percent plus or minus a couple
of thousand American survey between the nineteenth and twenty second
and November on this. But I found that a fascinating
societal development because again, I suppose you spun back the
clock about thirty years or so, the political difference would

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be the just the exact opposite, but seventy two percent
of Democrats, so you know who's the who's the warmongers? Now?
And I'm still looking for someone to explain to me
how all of this is going to work out, or
what our ultimate military objective is, or how any that
he expects this conflict to be resolved. I think you're

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going to end up having to chalk one off on
the win column for Russia. We'll see what Daniel Davis
has to say about that coming up at eight thirty.
I'm not I mean, he's pointed out regularly, and I
have no reason to disagree with him, considering his connections
with the military and how wars are fought and won.
But you know, Ukrainian forces are getting slaughtered, They're running

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out of people. The Russians obviously have a far superior
and more capable at least in terms of military resources. Hell,
they're getting weapons from all over the globe from our enemies.
Going back to the earlier point about trading partners anyhow,
that's why we have Daniel Davis around at eight thirty.

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Also have your opinions. You can feel free to disagree
with me or maybe shed a different light on it
from my perspective. Always enjoy hearing what people have to say,
so feel free to call in and don't go away.
We got local stories to talk about as well, and
of course a stack of stupid at five forty, so
I'll be.

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Right back fifty five KRC celebrate the season with.

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finding with a chance to ring before one pm. And
I high A forty four Right now it's forty one
degree for Bupkisity Talktation. Hey Joe, did you get invited
to the Bernie Moreno celebratory event at the Silver Spring
House last night? Yeah? I didn't either. It's my invitation
guy lost in the mail. Hell that's probably that's like

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walking distance from my house. Oh well yeah, why don't
you see if you'll make an appearance back on the
fifty five Carsey Morning Show. Now we got him, got
him a well slim left town. Are are you in
that mojo? You're you're you're not optimistic along those lines.

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I don't know, we'll see. I'm glad he got elected.
There are some days I really, really really really wish
that listening audience could see the expression on Joe Streker's face.
And I wish the FCC would allow some of his
editorial comments online or on the air because side splittingantly funny.

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They can be fifty five careacy dot com and you
can't listen a lot to the podcast. Speaking of podcast,
Joe Strekker will produce yours if you want to do one.
He does that. That's his side gig, one of eight
jobs that Joe has to uh hold down in order
to pay the grocery bill at the Streker household. Yesterday
Christopher Smithman UH always great talking with Christopher smith and

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I really enjoyed him. A nice spleen vent from him yesterday. Anywhile,
over to the local stories, holiday shopping season gets underway,
the Cincinnati Metro helping customers have an easy way to
get to the stores on Black Friday. Metro announced yesterday
it's offering free bus fairs on Friday. You know, I

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interpret that word free is taxpayer funded. Isn't that the
right way to look at it? Anyway? For all Metro
fixed roots cord to a Metro initiative is to encourage
people to shop local for the holidays and avoid the
stress of traffic and parking gourd to the announcement. Brandy Jones,

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Metro Chief Communications and Marketing Officer. Thank you to wcpo's
Daniel Goodman for reporting this holiday season. Metro is your
partner for stress free travel, whether you're heading to the
met Mall, visiting loved ones, or enjoying festive events. Are
improved Roots, extended hours, and Metro now exclamation point. I
guess that's the thing. On demand service make it easier

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than ever to get where you need to go. With
free Fair on Black Friday, it's the perfect opportunity to
save money and focus on what matters most celebrating the season.
Metro apparently operating on Saturday holiday schedule for our Sunday
Slash holiday schedule for Thanksgiving Days Sunday, December first, some
routes will have service and scheduling adjustments. I'm not familiar

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personally with the Roots, but those routes include six sixteen, seventeen, nineteen,
twenty two, twenty seven, thirty two, thirty seven, forty one,
forty six, seventy two, seventy seven, seventy eight. You can
go to WCPO dot com if you weren't able to
write that down oh, Bingo, you got bingo. Congratulations Joe.
He's waving his card around. They suggest this is part

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of their ongoing EU for to enhance customer service. So
there are places you can view the schedules and those
regular writers of Metro. I feel very confident you exactly
where to go to get that information. Go to Hamilton, Ohio,
or the sheriff department around me. Well, they say sheriff's
departments around the country, Victoria Morewood and Choir reporting may

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be called to detain immigrants without illegal immigrant without legal
immigration status as early as Donald Trump's first day in office,
Butler County Sheriff Richards Jones is ready. Posted on Facebook
earlier this month, Jones said, we're gonna take our border
back once Trump Enter's office. We're preparing cells and space

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as we speak. Day after the election, we started preparing.
Jones said he's keeping two hundred and fifty to three
hundred beds of the Butler County jail available, around one
third of the total beds for people facing deportation. If
they run out of room for local inmates, he said,
it will transfer immigrants elsewhere. Quote. We take care of
our local prisoners first. Close quote Jones, working on a

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sixth term as sheriff beginning in January, offered jail housing
units to US Immigrations and Customs Enforcement for decades previously,
but the kind of jailsmen used to attain immigrants arrested
by ICE officers from around the country. Sheriff's departments working
with ICE in this way have to give the federal training,
learn how to fill out deportation paperwork, and responsible for
transporting immigrants to airports. He said he's offered up his

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jail to be used for deportation since two thousand and
one under former presidents Bush, Obama, and Trump. He stopped
allowing ICE to use the jail during Joe Biden's term,
said quote, I knew they were going to fire me
from the program because I'm a big target for the
current administration, and they were firing sheriffs all over the country.

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I knew they were coming here, so I quit them first.
Now we are back the jail, butlo kind of jail
holds eight hundred and forty eight maximum and medium security inmates.
Immigrants facing deportation would be detained together in a regular
housing unit, separate from local inmates. I'm good for Sheriff Jones.

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Any word from Charmaine McGuffey on that one, huh yeah,
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Speaker 1 (26:24):
It's five thirty nine and happy Tuesday. Kevin Gordon's feeling
in for me tomorrow. We're gonna have a best of
show for Thursday and Friday, which I hope includes the
book by that doctor on COVID Joe, because Maureen will
greatly appreciate that one. So however you want to do it,
but again, Kevin Gordon tomorrow, and I certainly appreciate you.

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Kevin out there in advance covering for me from a
vacation day, and I'll appreciate hearing from you. Five point
three seven four nine fifty eight hundred eight two three
talk before I get to the stack of stupid. My
dear friend Cribbage, Mike, my submariner buddy, Welcome back to
the program, Mike. It's always a pleasure to hear from you.
I hope you and your better half are doing well,
doing great, Brian.

Speaker 9 (27:04):
And looking forward to the holiday and bought the top
one of wish. The Strucker and Thomas family are very happy.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
Thanksgiving, sir, Thank you and right back at you. I
hope you have some nice plans lined up and everything
goes along swimmingly with a smile on your face. It's
a great holiday.

Speaker 9 (27:16):
Family, Well, yes, sir, family. Grandkids will be over so
no better way to spend such a wonderful holiday.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
Yeah, your grandson is. He is such a cool little guy.
He's he's my buddy man. People when I played Kurbage
at listener to lunch and that will take place next week, Michael,
hope to see you there a price Lill Chili where
I will be there. I won the last time. When
his grandson comes along with him, he roots for me

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and not his grandfather. I get the biggest kick.

Speaker 9 (27:44):
Out of That makes for an interesting car ride back.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
To the East Side.

Speaker 6 (27:49):
I bet it does anyway, Mike. What's on your mind
this morning?

Speaker 9 (27:53):
Yes, sir, Before I get to my doge comment you
mentioned yesterday, that you know, who's actually running the country.
Where's Joe Biden? As we are we along with Ukraine
launches long range missiles one place he was last week
And usually this gets a lot of press because the
Presidential Medal of Freedom is the highest civilian award that

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could be given. Well, behind closed doors, he gave it
to the former head of Planned Parenthood.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 9 (28:22):
No, sir, That last I believe it was last Wednesday.
The press was in just for a photo op and
that's it. The Presidential Medal of Freedom to the second
Catholic president.

Speaker 10 (28:35):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
That that's just hard to swallow. I mean, of all
the worthy people in the world, far more worthy than
that particular individual. And say what you want about Planned Parenthood,
but highest of.

Speaker 9 (28:46):
The right part and I can't think of it off
the top of my head. You know, they list the
qualifications for the Presidential of Medal of Freedom and then
it just it's like bile in the back of your
throat when she was awarded it.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
But dis yeah, part of me, I mean, I'm appalled
by it, and I wish it weren't so. But does
really anybody in the listening audience find that surprising?

Speaker 10 (29:11):
At all.

Speaker 9 (29:12):
No, absolutely not absolutely not. Yeah, yeah, oh well, I
mean did they come along with pardons and the presidents
last year? As far as who he gives it to
and but it but it speaks volumes. The silence is deafening.
That he did it behind closed doors. So oh yeah,
somebody there has some ilk of jee. This might not
go over well.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Yeah, but the the pardoning of of the two turkeys
yesterday made global news. Boy, that was all over the place, boy,
and he had a difficult time even getting through that process.

Speaker 9 (29:41):
I swear that whoever that is is just on loan
from the Hall of Presidents in Orlando.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
There's no no doubt.

Speaker 9 (29:53):
But real quick with those you know, I think we're
all fired up, yes, that it's going to work. I
can back into the early nineties when the Base Realignment
and Closer Commission known as BRACK was first put forward
because I listed in seventy five, not only were we
still on a World War Two footing, but coming off
the post Vietnam, even as bloated as a DoD was,

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we knew it had to happen, and it took a
lot of gnashing and teeth, but we are a better
defense department there's been a lot of I was stationed
on Orlando when I was a drill instructor. We used
to have three Navy boot camps, San Diego, Orlando and
the one that is currently in operation in Great Lakes,
And there were a lot of admirals and of course
local congressmen. You know, a great idea, but don't close
my base. But you go down there. Now it is

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a sprawling community of industrial and condos and personal houses
were better for it. So hopefully they can take the
win from the election go after stuff that are no brainers.
Maybe the public swell will continue and to get Doge
to do what it's supposed to do.

Speaker 6 (30:55):
Well.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
I agree. And you know, one of the things I
was going to talk about coming up at the top
of the next hour is some of the things that
they are talking about cutting. Joni Ernst has already outlined
a whole bunch of areas that need to be gutted
out of the government, and Elon Musk came out swinging.
And this one I agree with wholeheartedly. And I've mentioned

(31:16):
this before. The two trillion dollar lifetime costs of the
F thirty five Lightning airplane. What in the hell is
that all about why are we still building those things
and apparently not the greatest airplane ever built. They try
to be all things to all people, but ended up
being this, this massive, massive hole that money's being thrown

(31:40):
into every year. The world is filled with inexpensive drones,
and we now have, you know, supersonic rockets, and they
can shoot those right out of the sky. And that's
one of the things that Musk wrote the other day.
Fighter jets will be shot down very quickly if the
opposing porce has sophisticated surface to air missiles or drones,
as shown by the Russia Ukraine conflict. So the idea

(32:01):
of manned aircraft, I think is going the way of
the Dodo, much to this chagrina of people who love airplanes.
But I'm sorry, it's just the thing. It seems to me.

Speaker 6 (32:10):
It's moving in to the area of obsolescence.

Speaker 9 (32:13):
One thousand percent agree. And when any time the government
comes out with one platform and they're just going to
put different variants on it. Okay, this will be the
marine variant, this will be the navy variant, this will
be the It never works, It never works, and especially
as you said, you can buy a lot of drones
for thirty five billion.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
Yes, you can thirty five million a pop in a
lifetime of two trillion dollars. I wonder if somebody put
pen to paper and figured out how many drones can
be bought with that, or maybe not. Mike, always extinct.
Pleasure having you on the program, my friend. Thanks for
your military service, Thanks for the comments today, and I
will look forward to sitting down with another Crivage game
with the next Wednesday listener lunch at Price Hell Chili.

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Speaker 8 (35:51):
To start off your Tuesday morning northbound seventy five, there
is a broken down that's over on the right shoulder
at the lateral SEP dound seventy one fine at the
rain in highway so is west to seventy five at
loved one and found seventy fours wide open coming down
the hill from North Bend chuck Ingram on fifty five
krs the talk station.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Five fifty one Happy Tuesday, five seven fifty five hundred
eight hundred eighty two to three talk over to the
stack is stupid. Uh Man's gonna be spending two years
behind bars because he assaulted a woman and tried to
run her over with his car because she failed to
respond to him when he said good morning to her.

(36:35):
This according to prosecutors in Massachusetts Speritcourt Judge Michael Doolan,
I believe yesterday, yes yesterday, found thirty three year old
Atkinson Ian Atkinson guilty of assault and batter and assault
with a dangerous weapon after a three day bench trial.
This Corn of the Soeffol County District Attorney's Office in
an announcement. Police responded nine a m. July thirteenth last

(36:57):
year to the woman's home in Balsam Street, Dorchester, after
the told cops she'd been waiting for her plants in
her yard. I'm sorry watering that makes more sense, Brian,
I was watching the plants grow, watering her plants in
the yard. Man said she didn't know. Later identified as
Ian Atkinson walked by and said quote when people say

(37:18):
good morning to you, you should say hi. You crazy
b word close quote. She began to record him with
her cell phone. After hed gott in a nearby black Mercedes.
Atkinson proceeded exit the car and then attacked the victim,
repeatingly punching her in the face before throwing her against
the fence. Victim able to fight him off, after she

(37:41):
bit him. He then went back to his car and
drove it toward her, nearly hitting her. Thereafter it fled,
the scene, cop showed up. Victim was bleeding from a
broken nose, had bruises throughout her head and face. Detectives
identified Atkinson through video, learned he'd been wearing a GPS
monitor from a previous rest and then they rested in

(38:01):
after the attack selfal kind of District Attorney Kevin Hayden,
in a statement, said, for this victim, a pleasant summer
morning descended into a violent and cruel ordeal for the
most inexplicable reasons. But even as she was being attacked,
she had the presence of mind to record video, and
that decision, along with her brave testimony, provided enough evidence

(38:23):
for the judge to make his decision. I joined all
members of this community in thanking this survivor for her courage.
He'll be on probation for two years after he's done
serving his prison time. And you see, that's that's something
I wouldn't think about doing. I never bring my phone
out to take pictures or record video or anything. If

(38:44):
someone's beating me down. I don't know how you're busy down,
Joe Down, I said, I would think, you know, my
self defense mechanisms wouldn't include bringing myself l phone out
and recording it. Guy Mississippi apparently he described as taking

(39:09):
parking very seriously, according to local cops, with one woman
who was cut by a no parking sign that the
man allegedly set up and booby trapped with razor blades.
M Jordan Jennings, manager of sky Mart Bait Shop and
Grocery and Oxford, speaking with local CBS affiliate after making
contact with woman last Wednesday, I cut her good. He said.

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She was very distraught and upset about something. He said
she was asking for a cloth and something to clean
it off. Jason Scott Curly fifty one, was allegedly sick
and tired of people messing with the no parking signs
that he had put outside his mobile home, with police
reporting he'd been setting them up for quite some time.
Carl's wife, Michelle, told the Oxford Eagle newspaper that cars

(39:55):
have been blocking their gravel driveway nearly every day while
dropping off and picking up stew from the adjacent school
that's there. Driveway is where Curl's mobile home is located.
Recently enlarged. The driveway was now sits on property used
by the school, a courd to the Lafayette County Fire Department.
This has led to car congestion and traffic problems in

(40:17):
the area, which sparked his no parking crusade. A problem
Caurl has allegedly been setting his signs up on parts
of the property that don't belong to him, accord to
the Sheriff's office. On top of that, he's accused of
lacing at least one of the displays with multiple razor blades,
which sliced Curl's victim on her right hand. Court to

(40:40):
the rest report, leading to charge of aggravated assault for
purposely attempting to cause injury. Released the same day from
the detention center out on a twenty thousand dollars bond,
obviously not in Hamilton County, Ohio. Unsuccessfully attempted to reach him.
We'll go ahead and just sort of give him the

(41:01):
brief Biggest Douche of the Universe award for that one.
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Speaker 1 (41:25):
Six five fifty five r CD talk station. Brian Thomas here,
wishing everyone a very happy Tuesday. Hands thank you again
ahead of time Kevin Gordon for covering for me tomorrow
off the rest of the week to enjoy my Thanksgiving holiday,
and I hope you have some really nice, loving, friendly
Thanksgiving plans set for your world, So don't fight with
anyone period five three two three talk fast forward one hour.

(41:52):
Tom di Lorenzo, president of the Meisas Institute. It's got
a documentary playing with fire, money, banking and the Federal Reserve.
Two hours from now inside scoop of bright Bart News,
Oliver Lane, the London bureau chief, returns, talk about while
we are celebrating the Trump when Europe is on the
brink of war. Yeah, I have a little depressing that one.
And then of course Daniel Davis with a deep dive

(42:13):
at eight thirty, also talking about Europe, Ukraine, Russia and
I hate to see it WW three written on the list,
but you know, you got to pay attention to what's
going on in the world. And then we'll have James Owen,
my good friend from Plumb Type Plumbing, about getting your
home ready for winter. Definitely that and don't flush your

(42:35):
hygiene products down the toilet. Experienced rather difficult Thanksgiving when
someone did that over and over and over again. Unfortunately
wasn't me, as my sister. But yeah, that's a bad idea,
so maybe he'll address that, not necessarily. So anyhow, going
back to and I'm excited as I can be about
this doche and I may be misplaced in my excitement,

(42:59):
but the idea of the brilliance of Elon Musk and
Vva Grama swimming not in a paid position, not part
of government, just being tapped into cutting the crap out
of government, it just it just overwhelms me with joy,
because everybody's got areas of government where they know that

(43:21):
there should be cuts. I mean, you heard from Cribbage Mike.
He's a military man, and he even knows and understands
that there's ridiculous overspending in America's military. And that's just
one slice of the budget, and it's the big slice
I'll admit that, although smaller than the debt service we're paying,
because why we overspent too much over decades and decades

(43:41):
and decades stating the obvious. But it always gets me
riled up that the people responsible for sending us on
a safe path that we can manage and that it's
sustainable always let us down. Always. No, I'm not gonna
like it about that project. That's my project, that's in
my state. We can't cut that one. But you know
I don't need it. Yeah, well, okay, but it's my

(44:01):
people and it's my jobs. Listen, if it's obsolete and
it's fat, and it's it's stupid, it doesn't make any
sense from a modern perspective, and let's get rid of it.
Move on. That was that was kind of Mike's point. So,
starting with Jody Ernst, Republican centenator to Joony ERNs of Iowa,
sent the new Department of Government Efficiency co chairs Elon

(44:24):
Musk and of course Vida Gramma Swammy a letter yesterday
with certain ideas that she said could save the federal
government more than two trillion dollars two thousand billion dollars
and that's in savings, and that you're even talking about
numbers this high. Maybe it only ends up being one trillion,
one thousand billion, it would be savings. And this is stuff.

(44:47):
This is unnecessary crap that you and I are paying for,
or actually leaving the bill for our grandchildren to pay
for in probably their grandchildren. Anyway, we know that their
co chairs Musk and Ramaswamy in this letter earned suggestions
range from addressing unused space in buildings too, and this

(45:09):
one bothers me almost more than anything uncommitted spending for
COVID relief. Are we past COVID? They threw so much
money out into the world based upon that nonsense that
there's still stacks of cash laying around that haven't been

(45:30):
spent yet. Anyway. In her letter to those two, she wrote,
when face of the proposal of the trim the fat
from Washington budgets, members of the Congress from both parties
act like Goldilocks. It's too little or too big, always
too hard, never just right. But the real make believe
of this fairy tales that it's impossible to reduce for
Washington's budget without causing pain. Most Americans I love this point,

(45:56):
most Americans aren't even benefiting in any meaningful way from
hundreds of billions of dollars being wasted. Anybody might listen
to audience benefit from the shrimp on treadmill studies that
they funded. Now you've heard all about those different studies
and funding. No, no, you didn't, and don't even try
to argue that you did. And if you did, that

(46:19):
just means you were one of the researchers studying shrimp
on treadmills, And I would have a multitude of questions
for you, like, how can you live with yourself? Don't
you feel guilty bilking the American taxpayers for a stupid
study about shrimp running on treadmills? Don't you have any
self respect or decency? Don't you pay taxes yourself? Is

(46:42):
that the kind of study?

Speaker 7 (46:43):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (46:43):
Oh, I guess it is the kind of study you want,
because that's what pays your tax or that's where your
salary comes from, where the taxes come out of anyway,
I'm sorry. Anyway, back to Jony Ernzner letter. While you're
seeking super high IQ small government revolutionaries for your unglamorous
cost cutting, all that's really need it is a little
common sense. If you can't find waste in Washington, there

(47:04):
can only be one reason you didn't look. So she's
identified several rail projects, three of them in California. Can
probably a total price tag one hundred and thirty five billion,
two hundred and thirteen million dollars in unemployment payments paid
two millionaires. Yeah, thirty one million dollars to pay government

(47:26):
employees with no assigned duties. How do you like that
people on the payroll that don't do anything at all?
Points out ten billion in inaccurate supplemental nutrition assistance programs. Yeah,
the payments. Those just a few among the things listed

(47:48):
as potential cuts. She also said there was over one
point six trillion with a tea and here we go
uncommitted COVID relief spending. So I have a simple message
to the bureaucrats who haven't shown up for working years,
that the government contractors and grantees collecting millions to study

(48:10):
how fast as shrimp runs on a treadmill? Hu huh,
buckle up, because accountability is coming. My decade long mission
to make Washington's squeal has created an exhaustive list of
more than two trillion dollars worth of waste fraud and abuse.
And I will work with Doge to cut where you're
going to break down the nonsense that's taken over Washington

(48:31):
and put it in its place, and put in its
place a government that actually works for people. Great. Isn't
this refreshing and awesome?

Speaker 6 (48:41):
And I can't.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
I mean, I'm just wondering other than a politician, who's
you know, maybe backyard pet project might be at stake here.
People on both political stripes are all political stripes should
applaud this. If you've got something that you think is
worth a worthy expenditure and you can make a valid,
straight face argument that you and your idea, your projects

(49:03):
should be funded to the exclusion of shrimp on treadmills.
I want to hear the argument, but bear in mind,
by cutting off shrimp on treadmill studies and this other crap,
you might have some funds to fund your project if
you can demonstrate that it's a valuable one. Like I
always point out, everybody's got a list. The lists always
exceed the amount of money government takes in, and of course,

(49:26):
on a federal level, since they run the printing press,
that limitation never really seems to matter. So literally everything
gets funding. I think it just becomes a question of
who you know. Previously, Ernest question usaid she found some
employees that were getting what they call locality pay for

(49:48):
Washington d C. In spite of the fact that while
at least in certain circumstances, you had people living in
Florida getting locality pay for Washington d C, one also
living in North Carolina also getting this locality pay for DC.

(50:10):
So the list is seemingly endless. But there she is
on fire and probably maybe even more excited than I
am about the whole concept of DOGE. And then going
over to Elon Musk, I brought this up one Mike
called earlier about the F thirty five Pentagon's F thirty
five program. Elon Musk just going whole hog against it,
pointing out that there are idiots who build this stealth

(50:31):
fighter two trillion dollars lifetime costs of the F thirty
five Lightning two joint strike fighter developed by Lockheed Martin.
This may be on the chopping block if Elon mus
gets his way. In a post on X yesterday quote,
the F thirty five design was broken at the requirements

(50:51):
level because it was required to be too many things
to too many people. This made it an expensive and
complex jacket trades master of none. Success was never in
the set of possible outcomes, and manned fighter jets are
obsolete in the ages. In the age of drones, anyway,

(51:13):
We'll just get pilots killed, which is kind of the
way I've been viewing this for a long, long period
of time, he wrote. He said, crude fighter jets are
an inefficient way to extend the range of missiles or
drop bombs. A reusable drone can do so without all
the overhead of a human pilot, and fighter jets will
be shot down very quickly if the opposing force has

(51:34):
sophisticated surface to air missiles or drones, as shown by
the Russia Ukraine conflict. Pentagon, of course, defending the program,
we have combat capable aircraft in operation today that perform
exceptionally well against the threat for which they were designed.
Pilots continually emphasize that this is the fighter jet they
want to take to war if called upon. Yeah, well,

(51:55):
if they look, if you're okay, you can fly at
mock one point six in an F thirty five. I
looked that up. That's with a full payload, full fuel
and all the bombs of that F thirty five is
capable of carrying mock one point six. Quick search for
how fast the hypersonic missiles go. They can travel between
mock five and mock ten. Huh, that thing will be

(52:21):
up in your bottom if you're flying an F thirty
five before you even realize it's on the way. And
to those out there who maybe know far more than
me about the uh well, the accuracy of a hypersonic missile,
if you say that they are not accurate enough to
hit a F thirty five plane mid air going at

(52:41):
mock one point five, I'm here to suggest that, in
a moment's time in the world of technology, that that
mock five to mock ten hypersonic missile will be able
to accurately target and F thirty five traveling at its
top speed of one mock one point five or mock
one point six. I'm just saying it. It seems logical

(53:03):
and reasonable. And just stop and think for a minute.
For thirty five billion dollars a pop for these airplanes,
how much technology and this is I'm not saying it's
not justified in an era where manned aircraft were the
default and absolutely necessary for waging war and defending oneself.
How much of that technology and how much of the

(53:25):
thirty five billion dollar priced egg goes into right keeping
the pilot alive important component considering all the money we
spend in training pilots and now all the information and
knowledge and skill sets that they have to operate these things.
But a vast, vast portion of the expense is designed

(53:46):
to protect the pilot. If you have an unmanned drone,
you don't need to incorporate that any of that into there?
Can you make a stealth drone? Something tells me you
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Best cordion channel and I have. We've got a mostly
sunny day in our hands. Enjoy it. High forty six
over night. It's kind of clouds are going to build
up thirty four for the low. Got an overcast day
tomorrow with afternoon rain likely high have forty four, potential
for a wintery mix overnight otherwise cloudy, rainy and a
low of thirty six. Thanksgiving Day, yay. I have forty

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four mostly clouds with a chance to rain before one pm.
Forty degrees right now. How about a traffic update.

Speaker 6 (55:56):
Up from the UCL Traffic Center with you you see help.

Speaker 8 (56:00):
The future of care is happening now through clinical trials
and innovative treatments that give patients a chance for better outcomes.
This is a Ucehealth dot Com. Highways continue to look
good this morning. No time delays to deal with into
downtown as of yet. Both northbound seventy five and northbound
four seventy one doing fine on the bridges outside of Milford.

(56:21):
There's a wreck on Old twenty eight at mcpickin shuck
Ingram On fifty five KRC the talk station.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
Six thirty one fifty five kr SE the talk station,
Happy Tuesday to you. Five one three, seven four nine
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found five fifty on AT and T Funds. Appreciate Chip
sending me this breakdown on what we are capable of
hitting and uh even going back as far as the

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nineteen nineties and he said we can back in eighty eight,
we could hit a POPCN smaller than F thirty five,
one hundred and twenty miles out, one hundred and miles
up traveling at mock three point five. Okay, So it
really is supporting my point about the two trillion dollar
F thirty five project and agreeing with Elon Musk that
maybe that's one of the things that we need to

(57:13):
cut out of our massive, massive military budget. Anyhow, feel
free to call comment or anything you got on your mind.
In the meantime, it's been a month since the fires
shut down the southbound lanes of the Dan Beard Bridge,
Big Mac Bridge call it one O Dot says it's
going to start beginning the demolition of portions of the
bridge deck. Remember the Hands playground at Sawyer point one

(57:39):
thousand Hands Playground caught on fire. I think they're still
investigating that. One Cod's part of the bridge to burn.
Mike DeWine announced the state of emergency due to the
dangerous condition and damages and update. Yesterday afternoon, ODOT said
Cruise began installing a second round of shoring towers needed
to support the bridge before any demolition can begin. Hours

(58:00):
should be up before Thanksgiving, demolition beginning this Friday. In
its release, ODOT said, as mentioned the day of the fire,
section of South found I four seventy one, that some
of the most significant damage will need to be removed
and replace. Close up inspections on Friday and Saturday, the
fifteenth and sixteen found even more damage to the deck,
bearings and girders than the initial inspections revealed. ODOT set

(58:25):
engineers have been designing custom demolition plans for each piece,
from concrete deck to the girders to make sure the
crews and residents are safe. Currently, ODOT says it hasn't
released a timeline for when repairs will be finished. Officials
say the timeline will depend upon the availability of steel.
I didn't realize steel was in short supply. Catherin Fuller,

(58:46):
ODOTS spokesperson, said, these are going to be custom like.
It's not off the shelf where we can disorder parts
from a catalog, so to speak. There are some unique
components with the hinge joint underneath the bridge. These are
things that people don't see when they're traveling. Once they
know when they can get the steal to replace the girders,
Fuller said will be providing an update on the projected timeline.

(59:08):
The single northbound lane closure will also have to be
permanent until the repairs are complete on that side of
the bridge. Let's go to the phones. I got a
Hank on the line with a comment, Hank, thanks for
calling this morning. Happy Tuesday and an early happy Thanksgiving
to you and yours.

Speaker 7 (59:24):
Likewise, Brian, enjoy your time off when you get to
that point. I had a thought about you were talking
about using drones instead of man fighters and kind of
made me think about Dave Hatter talking about self driving
cars and possibility of being taken over.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (59:42):
Anytime I start hearing people talking about AI and drones,
I keep thinking Skynet.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
Oh yeah, and the other Yeah, that's a good point.

Speaker 5 (59:51):
And the other.

Speaker 7 (59:52):
The other thing is is you were talking about cutting
out all those wasteful programs. So I guess I should
forget my idea about he pays for bald eagles. Huh.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
Yes, although you know you missed your opportunity maybe with
doges coming online and if they really can truly accomplish something,
we're not gonna have to pay for bald eagles. But
you know, if you rewound maybe ten years ago you
get into the Obama administration, or maybe anytime during the
Biden administration, if you had friends in government, Hank, you

(01:00:24):
probably could have gotten that one funded. Remember that.

Speaker 7 (01:00:27):
Yeah, I'm always I'm always a little behind the ball
and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
Maybe it has something to do with having you're having
some measure of honesty, decency and principle. Yes, I could
get a study for bald eagle two pays and probably
get away with it and build the American taxpayer for
some insane amount of money.

Speaker 6 (01:00:45):
But you know what, I'm not that guy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
I wouldn't go down that road because I do have integrity.
I wish more people had integrity and we wouldn't be
paying for treadmill shrimp studies and things of that nature.
Good call, man, I appreciate, Luke. I can't I get
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Go to the phones.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
I've got a couple of callers online. I promise Luki
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Thanks for holding over the brake. Yep, yep, yep.

Speaker 7 (01:04:17):
Uh.

Speaker 12 (01:04:18):
Just you don't have no ability to perceive the future
by any means.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
But you hear news stories.

Speaker 12 (01:04:24):
We hear things all the time, people.

Speaker 6 (01:04:25):
Getting killed for a little and nothing, for a very.

Speaker 7 (01:04:28):
Small monetary value.

Speaker 6 (01:04:30):
People get killed.

Speaker 12 (01:04:31):
To think that Trump of ake Elon are gonna be
able to cut trillions of dollars awaits about any serious repercussion.
I'm not talking from Hoodlims or as Joe likes to
put the aristocrat people, but I mean literally the aristocrat people.
If we think that they're gonna let them cut all
that money that goes into their pockets, man, there's another thing.

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It's gonna be a fight. It's gonna be a fight.
I know everyone's already aware of that. But wonder what
the heck they're gonna do if they come in and
start cutting trillions are billions or one hundred of millions
of dollars even from people that have been getting paid
for decades.

Speaker 7 (01:05:03):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
Well, it's an interesting thought process, isn't it. And since
I can't read the future, and I don't believe in
prognostication or tarot cards or tea leaf reading, all I
can say is they're going to start working on it.
We can all sit back and find out if they're
successful or not. We will see where the obstructionists are
those people that you identify that will be threatened and

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whose livelihoods depend upon this umbilical cord connected to the
government lifestyle. Those people are going to come out of
the woodwork. We'll be able to find them and identify them.
They won't be hiding behind the scenes anymore. We'll get
a better picture of who they are and how they operate.
The sunlight of disinfection that will come about as a
consequence of trying to get the bottom line in control.

(01:05:51):
I think it'll be quite revealing, and I will have
my popcorn out throughout the entire process. And yes, I
am willing to admit that I am prepared to see
this fail because of how big the government is and
how many tentacles it's got out into the world, and
the fact that we have our justice departments and our

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lettered agencies that have been weaponized against a lot of people,
including probably vv A, Gramma Swimming and Elon Musk and
anybody else who's going to be involved in cutting the fraud,
wasted abuse out of government. Everybody's got a file these days.
I've talked about this with Napolitana. Before you ever wonder
why a politician will do something that is fundamentally and

(01:06:33):
polar opposite against what they ran on, what the party
platform stands for, and everything else. Do you ever think
that maybe, just maybe someone behind the scenes showed them
their dossier. Oh, by the way, we know what you
did ten years ago when you were in the Philippines,
or hey, we got your internet search engine a list here,
and oh, by the way, I heard you're at a

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Diddy White party a couple of years ago, and hey,
what were you doing with Elon or with Mike Epstein
over on Pedophile Island. Anything like that can cause a
politician to go, oh my god, holy crap, and maybe
do something that's against their best interest. But I'll wait
for it. I'll be back here with my popcorn out, hoping,

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perhaps against hope, that they accomplish at least a fraction
of what they're trying to do. If it's only a trillion,
only a thousand billion dollars, our deficit won't increase as
quickly as it currently is with absolutely no oversight. Who's next, Joseph, Mike,

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thanks for calling this morning. Welcome to the Morning Show.

Speaker 12 (01:07:44):
Hey, Brian, real quick about the widge one thing that
you look into is why do we still have NASA if.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
You got Blue Origin Boeing Virgin ready to have mass anymore?

Speaker 7 (01:08:01):
Right?

Speaker 6 (01:08:02):
And who are who is our government paying to launch rockets?

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
Now?

Speaker 6 (01:08:06):
We're not doing it ourselves, We're hiring it out.

Speaker 12 (01:08:10):
The last one I did send that took them like
ten years to build it and they went.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
Around the moon and came back.

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
Yeah, but remember up.

Speaker 6 (01:08:18):
There and had a colony up there by now and to.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
Anybody in government who makes the decisions on where we
get our rockets from, because it is private sector, now
you might want to steer clear of Boeing. Their track
reddit record isn't really solid as of right now. My
excellent point. I appreciate your call today New Hampshire Gary's online.
You're gonna have to wait in New Hampshire, Gary. It's
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Speaker 7 (01:11:33):
Good morning, Brian. I just wanted to call up and
say I want to wish everybody a happy Thanksgiving and
surely give thanks to where it's flowing. Gift thanks to
God for who you are, your family and you're surrounding.
That's all.

Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
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Speaker 7 (01:11:52):
Uh. Second of all, I would totally agree when nobody's
really complaining. Now, actually they're saying that the protest against
the Trump administration that's kind of waning a little bit.
But once they start cutting the money, but just think
about how much money goes to all the Ivy League
colleges and that, or to student loans, or to cut

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housing and stuff like that, that's when the screaming is
really gonna begin. So there's gonna be a lot of that.
And again, this is not just the end.

Speaker 6 (01:12:25):
This is just the beginning.

Speaker 7 (01:12:26):
Oh yeah, and we're gonna see what he plays out.

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
Yeah with that question, you know, and I look forward
to I mean I kind of expected the absolute worst
Gary right after the election. I mean, we were all worried, like,
what's gonna happen if you know, Trump wins, or what's
gonna happen if Harris wins and the Harris folks are
run around saying, oh my god, the Nazi's gonna take
to the street and there's gonna be rioting chaos. And
you know what, there wasn't any of that. We didn't

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even get the pink hat brigade women running a muck
after the election. That's because Donald Trump won the popular
vote by a substantial amount. Had he not, had he
won just the electoral college, I think the landscape would
be completely different because they would have that. You know,
we need to get rid of the electoral college. This
isn't the will of the American people. This is a
failure of democracy. None, None of that could happen because

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he won the popular vote. Look at the map of
the United States and all the red. Look at all
of the red that invaded the formerly blue areas. They
know they had a losing strategy. They know they had
a losing candidate. The Shenanigans that went on with hiding busks,
Biden's mental deterioration, this idiot giggling whatever, Kamala Harris as

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a substitute. Nobody bought into it. So I do agree,
though it may come. I've always my anticipation is it's
when Donald Trump starts cracking down on illegal immigrants in
our country. That's when you're gonna see the chaos in
the streets. They will be well organized. They've all got
government issued cell phones, they all have non governmental organizations

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that have been carting them around and paying for everything.
All of those those areas are at risk, including most
notably the nngos, which have been paid handsomely to ferry
the illegal immigrant population, criminal or not around the four
corners of this country. So, yeah, wait for it. It's
going to happen. But I think we're better prepared to
deal with it now. And what's the other thing we

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know about even that one topic, the illegal immigration problem,
It's that it's literally and I'll use the phrase pissed off.
People of all political persuasions go to a town hall
meeting or a meeting of the commissioners, or whatever they
call them. In like New York City, the aldermen in

(01:14:37):
Chicago townships areas of rooms filled with people of all
races and ethnicities and creeds screaming at their elected officials
about how their resources have been soaked up by this unregulated,
unchecked flow of humanity into their neighborhood. Schools can't teach anyway,
and they've been made even less capable of teaching because

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you got nine Jillian kids in a classroom, none of
them speak the same language. How can you teach a
child when no one speaks the same language? Multitudes of problems,
and yet all of the risks of problems that were
there before the immigrants showed up are still there. Have
we ever solved the problem of homelessness?

Speaker 7 (01:15:17):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:15:18):
Here have ten twelve, twenty five thousand, one hundred and
fifty in the case of New York, thousand new people.
We didn't have room for the homeless before they showed up.

Speaker 6 (01:15:28):
What are we gonna do?

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
Scream at your elected officials, and it's Democrats screaming it's
Republicans screaming to the extent you can find one in
any of these Democrat cities. But these are Democrat cities,
and these are pissed off Democrats wrong side of the ledger.
So will they be supported when they riote in the street?
Will the American population abide? And will we all be

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caught in by the terrible story of the little child
who they're going to export into some other country?

Speaker 6 (01:15:57):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:15:57):
I just saw a story yesterday about a two year
old girl would just across the southern border unaccompanied, unaccompanied
two year old brought here by the drug cartels in Mexico.
Is that good? Is that right? Is that not a
heartbreaking reality? It depends on where you're looking. But in
terms of the politics behind this, in terms of the

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open border owned exclusively by the Democrats, it has not
worked out well for them and they know it. And
I would argue to that, and maybe this woke DEI
crapp Er a couple of the primary reasons Donald Trump
just wiped up the floor in his victory in early November.

(01:16:44):
But we'll see. Like I said, I feel a little
optimistic now. I'm ready to have my bubble burst. Politicians
typically do that, but at least I got a reason
to smile right now, and I hope you do too.
Six six, six fifty six Right now, stick around. We're
gonna be talking with Tom de Lorenzo, president of the
Mesas Institute. Got a documentary out playing with fire, money,

(01:17:06):
banking and the Federal Reserve. That'll be after the news.
Hope you can stick around. It's the biggest news and
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(01:17:42):
happy Tuesday in an early Thanksgiving, last day of the
week for me as I move into vacation. But I
am so pleased to be here today because from the
Mesa's Institute, I'm pleased to welcome to the fifty five
KRC Morning Showed Thomas de Lorenzo. He is the president
of the Mesa's Institute, former professor of economics at Loyal
University of Maryland, a time member of the Senior faculty
the Mesas Institute, author of so many books, I can't

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listen them in the time we have allocated for this discussion.
But here to talk about the new documentary released by
the Mesa's Institute, playing with Fire, Money, Banking and the
Federal Reserve. Tom de Lorenzo, Welcome to the fifty five
Caricter Morning Show. It's my distinct pleasure to welcome you
to my program.

Speaker 5 (01:18:22):
Well, thank you very much, Brian. I'm please to be
with you.

Speaker 1 (01:18:24):
Well, let us initially discuss okay, and I will admit
upfront now I joke about this all the time, so
my listeners know probably what's coming. This is where my
you know, sixteen years of practicing law and my twenty
years of being on radio almost and my MENSA membership
mean absolutely nothing. I don't understand the Federal Reserve. I

(01:18:44):
don't get it. I don't understand it. Now I have,
you know, a high level understanding of the Austrian School
of economics, which is what the Mesis Institute supports. I'm
familiar with the Chicago School of economics, the Milton Friedman style,
and I know the keensy and econom theory is a
bunch of nonsensical, ridiculous idiots. So that's about boiled down

(01:19:05):
what I've got here, but thank you for this documentary
so we all can understand what the fat is, where
it came from, and why it's so dangerous. So let's
begin with the Mesa's Institute and just general principles of
Australians or Austrian rather school of economics.

Speaker 5 (01:19:21):
It was called the Austrian School because some of the
founders of the ideas came to America from Austria. Friedrich
Hayak is probably the best known among Americans of that.
And it's a free market economics international piece through history
as things we focus on, and it's a research and
educational institution and we try to educate anyone and everyone.

(01:19:45):
It's not a think tank. We don't preserve, we don't
publish papers for congressional staffers and things like that. That
we're mostly research and educational institution and that's what we do.
And the new documentary is aimed at helping people like yourself,
like all Americans. It's not an accident that no one
knows what the heck the FED does. When Tucker Carlson

(01:20:09):
interviewed Ron Paul a couple of months ago, Tucker said,
you know when this came up, When Ron was running
for president. He said, I was getting paid to know
about this stuff. I was where he was working, I
think for a Fox at the time, and he said,
and even I knew nothing at all about the FED.
And so that's the purpose of our documentary and any
of your listeners can look at it. See it for free.

(01:20:32):
It's thirty eight minutes on the nieces dot org slash fire.
It's m I sees dot org slash fire, and it's
at a very introductory level explaining what the FED is,
and it makes the case for abolishing it. And it
features Ron Paul and the famous Wall Street investor James Grant,
and myself and a number of other people from the

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Mess Institute.

Speaker 1 (01:20:55):
Wonderful. My producer, jos Jrecker will add that to my
blog page organ a link to the documentary so our
listeners can easily find it, and I know they will
thoroughly enjoy understanding it. Let us just talk generally, speaking
of this concept of running the printing press. I don't
under I mean I understand how they do it. It's
basically a flip a switch. You print on several trillion

(01:21:17):
dollars and the next thing you know, you've watered down
the monetary supply. Obviously in inflationary reality. We have so
many charts we can go to what's a dollar worth
now compared to what it was worth in pick a
year nineteen eighty, nineteen thirty. You can see it's been
watered down completely. That is the natural order of things.
The more you print dollar wise, the less value each

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of them has. We're talking about a piece of paper,
not something that has physical value. We simply rely on
it as a means of easily exchanging car, you know,
easily buying and selling goods and services. But it's meaningless
as a thing.

Speaker 5 (01:21:55):
Yeah, it's only based on the promises of politicians. But
it wasn't all always that way. Our money used to
be attached to gold and that ended. It was ended
by Nixon in the early seventies, where you could redeem
dollars for gold, and they just said, sorry, no more,
you can't do that. And that's why we had the
economic complosion of the seventies, stagflation. We were no longer

(01:22:19):
there was no longer any restraints on the ability to
counterfeit money. And you know, conservatives have been complaining for
decades about overspending, overspending, the Fed is the key to
the whole thing. There was a law passed in the thirties.
They gave the FED the right to just counterfeit money,
legally counterfeit money, then use that money to buy government

(01:22:39):
bonds as a way of infusing money into the banking system.
And that's what creates all the inflation. And that law
can be ended tomorrow the Congress. Could we send that
lot tomorrow. It doesn't have to abolish the FED. It
could just do that one step and that would that
would keep the FED from escalating the money supply. And
we should be seeing deflation now with all the technol

(01:23:00):
logical advance that we have, especially with artificial intelligence and
all that. But we don't, because we said, put so
much money in circulation, and it primarily benefits the banking industry,
the Wall Street speculators, the people who get their hands
on this money first that once that's printed by the FED,
and then the average American just suffers through never ending

(01:23:21):
boom and bus cycles and the great recessions and price inflation.
And the dollar is worth about two cents now compared
to what it was in nineteen thirteen when the FAB
was created.

Speaker 1 (01:23:32):
What would the world or our country. Let's focus on Obviously,
the United States is our currency. What would the country
look like if that had never happened, if they stuck
to a gold standard, if your cash was redeemable for
physical gold.

Speaker 5 (01:23:49):
Oh, we would have far less inflation, for sure, and
we would have far less boom and bus cycles. You know,
the Great Recession of eight followed the recession a bust
in the stock market in the year two thousand. Every
decade we have one of these busts, and they're all
caused by the FED, and that we would have far
fewer than that. There's a lot of resource in the

(01:24:10):
field of economics now that shows that our economy is
much more unstable after the FED was created than it
was before the FED was created. We've never had a
perfect world. Nothing on earth is perfect, but the FED
has made things much worse and not better. Hasn't controlled inflation,
hasn't controlled unemployment any better than otherwise would have been.

(01:24:30):
And we used to have competing currencies and so and
we're starting to go that way, you know, with all
the bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. We're starting to go in
a direction of competition, and some states are making it
much easier to use gold and silver also as currency,
or at least backing a currency. So I think in

(01:24:52):
the future we're going to have to move in that
direction even more than we are now.

Speaker 1 (01:24:56):
But wouldn't I mean, if we just stuck to a
gold standard, then wouldn't they basically the size and scope
and expectations that people have of what we can get
from the federal government. Wouldn't it be dramatically reduced. Wouldn't
the government be extraordinarily smaller than it is now?

Speaker 5 (01:25:14):
Well? Sure, that's why. You know, the Constitution gives the
federal government the ability to coin current money coin money,
doesn't give it the ability to print money, print paper
money at all, And so they knew what they were doing,
and so yeah, we would the government. The Constitution is
pretty much a dead letter because of the FED. If

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the government can do anything at once and print up
the money and pay for it, and it creates what
economists call a fiscal illusion.

Speaker 6 (01:25:45):
You know, if the.

Speaker 5 (01:25:46):
Government said, Okay, we're going to send another one hundred
billion dollars to Ukraine, and so we're going to impose
a tacks of ten thousand dollars to every working family
to pay for it, you see a far fewer Ukrainians
black bumper stas.

Speaker 1 (01:26:02):
I love that one small sliver of the unbelievable, you know,
the outlay from government, But you hit the nail on
the head right there. We would have to be asked
to dive and dig into our own pockets to fund
any given situation. I suppose that's a lot like the
war bonds back of World War two to a certain degree.

Speaker 7 (01:26:24):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 5 (01:26:26):
And it's you know, we're approaching the holiday season now,
and so government has one big Santa Claus, you know,
something for nothing. You know, Uncle Sam is really Uncle Santa,
and you know he prints up money and just spends
wildly to make the politicians themselves popular. And they all
play Santa Claus, you know, four hundred and thirty five
Santa Clauses in Congress basically, but it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:49):
Never seems to stop. Under the current circumstances, what do
you perceive to be the future here in the United States? Obviously,
the printing press is running the morning we print the
bigger our credit card debt. That's way most people kind
of view it, paying debt service to our creditors. It
keeps getting bigger, a larger and larger share of the

(01:27:09):
government money is being paid to service this massive debt
that's not going to last. It can't. It's going to
collapse on itself. I mean, that's the way I perceive it.

Speaker 7 (01:27:21):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 5 (01:27:22):
You know, we have such a strong economy and so
many work, hardworking people, and so much capital investment that's
saving us for the time being from being Venezuela. And
we're not going to turn into Venezuela tomorrow as far
as that goes. But we can do tremendously better. Even
what President Trump is talking about in eliminating the brags
that he eliminated four regulations for every new one, and

(01:27:46):
I think in his new term there should be no
new ones and eliminate maybe one hundred a day of
government regulations because most of them, the vast majority, serve
no purpose other purpose other than just buying the loser
jobs of government bureaucrats. And that would just free up
a tremendous amount of entrepreneurship and investment and work in America,

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just that apart from the FED. And of course a
move in the direction of more honest money will be inevitable.
I think you'll see different states saying that you can
use this currency that currency more. Pay your taxes with
bitcoin or whatever cryptocurrency comes down the pike in the future.

Speaker 1 (01:28:31):
Now, in terms of oh, shoot, I lost my train
of thought, Tom, I apologize. That does happen from time
to time. I'm just so baffled by this. Oh I
recall now, I've heard Ron Paul and I maybe even
Ran his son mentioned this before. I come from a
lot of people the idea of auditing the FAD. It
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exists as the standalone body with so much control and
power over our lives. Is that a meaningful act? Will
that result in something other than perhaps enlightening more people
about what you are outlining in this playing with fire
money banking in the Federal Reserve?

Speaker 5 (01:29:10):
Well, well, you know it's meaningful because every time someone
like Ron Paul proposed it in Congress, the entire banking
industry would circle the wagons and send millions to Congress
to bribe the members of Congress to kill it immediately.
They don't want people to know what's going on, and
every once in a while we get a glimpse of it.
There was a General Accounting Office audit about twenty five

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years ago of a fed a certain sort of a
wasn't a full blown on it, but it was piecemeal
and they found such things as you know, they had
fleets of corporate jets, the huge art collections that the
head janitor, this is, this is almost thirty years ago.
The head janitor was making one hundred and sixty three
thousand a year plus benefits. And that's if it's in

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the public interest. If what's there they're doing is in
the public interest, why can't the public take a look
at how they're spending all this money?

Speaker 1 (01:30:04):
Amen, you get no argument from me. Thomas De Lorenzo,
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work that you're doing on the light that you're shedding
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Speaker 5 (01:30:30):
Well, thank you very much, Brian and I have a
great day and you have a.

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At fifty five KARSD talk station got some time to
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News Oliver Lane, London Bureau Chief on while we're celebrating
the Trump win, Europe is on the brink of war. Yeah,
that's a little bleak headline for that when Daniel Davis
Deep Dive coming up in about an hour. Yeah, same
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(01:33:34):
the program, Happy Tuesday. Oh thanks sh.

Speaker 2 (01:33:37):
Having me, Brian.

Speaker 13 (01:33:38):
I had a solution for getting Trump out of all
his legal woes. If I was paym LA BONDI I'd
retry him. Go in front of Republican judge. Have it
found not guilty. He can never be tried again. In
four years.

Speaker 7 (01:33:51):
It'd be over the case we'd been heard, and that's
how I'd solve it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:56):
Problem solved. Yeah, it is the way to go. I
can't that. I guess there is the possibility the Republican
judgst might not go that way, but I think you
probably are along the right track in terms of how
things ultimately would work out. Tom, thanks for the call, man.
And they did dismiss the cases. I guess since you

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can't prosecute a sitting president. Special Council Jack Smith, citing
the long standing Justice Department policy against prosecuting a sitting president,
dropped the cases, or dropped at least a couple of them,
so Trump doesn't have that legal thing hanging over his
head anymore. And it remains to be seen whether down
the road something might be brought back up. I tend

(01:34:42):
to doubt it. I think at this point the wins
out of their sales. They know they lost the election,
they know the American public is right behind Donald Trump
in a very large way, and they got bigger problems
on their hands. It's a funny, funny, funny thing. I
just just mentioned it in passing. Maybe we can talk
about a little bit more coming up. I just I

(01:35:04):
did a double take on it as I was reading
this article from Breonna Deppish ever Fox and is headline
DNC union launches gofund me to help former staffers hit
by massive layoffs after election losses. And it begins out
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a gofund me to raise money for staffers who were
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but they have a union for the people who work
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DNC that got laid off, but I kind of one
of the quotes in the article, DNC spokesman speaking with
Fox News Digital in a statement, every cycle, political organization
scale up to meet the demands, and as the cycle
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I circle that word we must part with talented, hardworking staff,
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When I've done work for any given candidate, I've never
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they're politically aligned with what I want from government, which
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my voice. I'll go to Republican meetings and speak on
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no Libertarians running out there very much, and I understand
the likelihood of one of them winning, but you know,
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Republican politics. But I'm happy to do it for free.
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doing it because I embrace the message and the policy
and want those folks to get elected. So we don't

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run ourselves into a giant hole in the ground like
along the lines we were just talking about with the
Mesa's Institute. But the idea that they're screaming and crying
about being let go after Kamala Harris like a plane
flying into the side of the mountain lost in such
a big way. He seriously a GoFundMe page. I don't

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IFI above KARSD talk station Tuesday, Happy Tuesday, Real quick here.
Starting off with Walmart, they apparently are rolling back their
DEI policies, adding to the list of long ever growing
lists of major corporations who are throwing this crap to
the wind. For John Deere, Toyota just among a few.

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There's an activists out there that's been doing documentaries named
Robbie Starbuck and leading a campaign to expose these ridiculous
woke policies. He said yesterday posted on x that he
had warned Walmart executive that he would be doing a
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had a productive conversation to find solutions and Walmart agree
to make some changes, removing the sexual and transgender products
inappropriately marketed toward children, reviewing certain grants to Pride events,
most notably the ones that fund sexualized content targeting children.

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Notice the emphasis in my voice that there are groups
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corporations have been out there funding them. This is sick.
So at least some changes coming to Walmart. There's some
twisted people out there, I mean, really really twisted. You know,

(01:47:50):
I'm little little llow libertarian Brian. I don't care. You know,
if you're gay, you're lesbian, if you're a transgender, that's
a okay with me. Stay the hell away from children.
You're talking and dealing with matters sexual that they don't understand.
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to Louis Gonzales, senior Fellow the Heritage Foundation, co author
of Next Gen Marxism. Tou Louis, chief staff to a
conservative actors named Christopher rufo Op ed Peace Journal Today.
How Trump can rid Washington of wokeness and DEI and
take control museums, eliminate census radical racial categories, and defund
public media. And as they write, the electorate has rejected wokeness.

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Should be obvious like right now, Donald Trump's most effective
campaign add featured the tagline Kamala is for they slash them.
President Trump is for you. Even liberal New York Times
calumnist Maureen Dowd wrote after the election that woke is broke,
but celebrating the end of peak woke and burying it

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completely are two different things. What will it take the
care wokeness once and for all? They ask, rhetorically, well,
we first have to define it. Woke means believing America
is riddled with inequities, where not only its people, but
the system itself is racist and in need of systemic overhaul,
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history must be expunged and rewritten. This is a world
of make believe, but for the woke elite, it colors
everything from climate policy to Israel Hamas war. This elite
has spent years infusing every institution with policies, procedures, and
mandates aimed to transforming society. Diversity, equity, and inclusion measures,

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particularly in government academia, have created an identity based system
in which people's immutable characteristics, not their choices, determine whether
they are worthy of awards or punishment. To put a
spike through the heart of woke mister Charump. The new
Congress must reverse these policies. Some of the following proposals
will be easy to implement, others it's harder, but all

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will help restore sanity. First, rescind and reverse all of
mister Biden's executive orders implementing DEI and gender theory, including
Executive Order one three nine to eighty five, which advanced
a quote whole of government equity agenda close quote. Biden
also signed executive orders supporting gender affirming medical interventions on minors,

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including puberty blockers, cross sex hormones, and surgeries. These two
must go. Trump should then sign two executive orders. The
first should reinstitute his twenty twenty band on DEI training
for federal workers and contractors. The second should define male
and female in precise biological terms, which would clarify what

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vital Tiden nine rule has destructively muddled and preserve the
intent of Title nine. Congress should then pass and mister
Trump sign the Dismantled EEI Act, currently working its way
through the House, which would eliminate DEI practices throughout the
federal bureaucracy. Number two here end woke University practices. Trump's plan,

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which he announced last summer, would change the accreditation system,
protect free speech, eliminate wasteful administrative positions, and use the
Justice Department to file lawsuits against schools that continue to
engage in racial discrimination.

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Three.

Speaker 1 (01:51:27):
Retake control of museums, starting with the Smithsonian Institution. Smithsonian
museums have forsaken their mission of spreading knowledge and instead
are trying to decolonize society. The National Museum of African
American History and Culture, for instance, as an entire web
page deriding white fragility and a white dominant culture. Trump's

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death Congress to restore the ideological balance by appointing real
conservatives willing to stand up to progressive views, to the
Board of Regions, which governs the Smithsonian. This board is
responsible for a point in the Smithsonian Secretary or chief
executive officer. The current Secretary, Lonnie Bunch, said DEI is
integral to excellence in museum practice for eliminate consensu or

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the censuses racial and ethnic categories. These categories formed the
life blood of identity politics and are often synthetic. Some
were added to the Census only recently. The Ethno racial
Pentagon American Indians or Alaskan Natives, Asian or Pacific Islanders, Blacks, Hispanics,
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Budget Statistical Policy Directive Number fifteen in nineteen seventy seven,
was first used in the dissennial census in nineteen eighty.
Activists were banking on what sociologists Christina Moore called collective amnesia,
expecting Americans to believe these identity groups had been defined forever.
The idea was to balkanize the nation, foster resentment among groups,

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and allow the left to gain power. But many members
of these groups have voted for mister Trump in large numbers,
particularly this year. They're assimilated. It's time to stop dividing
Americans into ethnic and racial groups. Trump should issue an
executive order directing the OEB to percent the nineteen seventy
seven directive and subsequent revisions, and ordering the CENSUSPIRER to

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abandon these faux categories. If the government is truly interested
in disparities and should ask questions that have real bearing
on people's backgrounds and perspectives, such as is there a
father in the house? Does alve the corporation of Public
Broadcasting CPB, which funds public media organizations that are responsible

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for spreading the woke mind virus. Trump can control private companies,
but or can't control private companies, but the NPR, PBS,
and other public broadcasters collectively receive millions in taxpayer dollars.
CPB distributes more than seventy percent of its annual five
hundred million dollars congressional appropriations to public media. This must stop.

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Broadcasters will do fine relying on paying members. Congress must
then pass legislation undoing the Public Broadcasting Act in nineteen
sixty seven, which established the CPB. It's time to shut
it down. This isn't an exhaustive list. Much else could
be on it, but everything here is vital to pull

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Speaker 1 (01:56:53):
Seven fifty four to fifty five kerr see talks station
aning and squeeze one call in before we get to
the bright Bart insights Goop. Jeff, thanks for calling this
morning in an advance. Happy Thanksgiving you and your family.

Speaker 14 (01:57:03):
No, happy Thanksgiving to you too, Brian. I just had
a thought, and I don't know if if we could
convince somebody like Thomas.

Speaker 2 (01:57:11):
Massey to bring it up.

Speaker 14 (01:57:12):
But what do you think the possibility would be, since
we have all three branches of this incoming administration, to
get Congress to pass the bill stating that one bill,
one topic, and get rid of all the stuff that's
tiggybacked on all these bills that they have no chance
of passing on a standalone issues.

Speaker 1 (01:57:30):
Yeah, I think he had brought that idea up previously
in some fashion or another. I would applaud it, I
would embrace it, I would promote it. I would do
everything I could to try to convince other politicians do
the same thing. Can you imagine to the almost literal
screeching halt that something like that would do to the ridiculous,
stupid crap that gets funded by our government because it's

(01:57:50):
all stuff in the back pages of some very important
piece of legislation they're working on. Yeah, let's not do
that anymore. Thankfully, we've got the Supreme Court on our
side now saying listen, if you're gonna give some regulatory
control to these behind the scenes administrators who are cheering
out rules and regulations, you damn well better spell it
out clearly in the legislation that they have that power,

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or they won't be able to write them. So we
made some headway in so far as the law is concerned.
Now we can make some laws that narrow it down
even further. I'd love that. I love it. Thanks Man
seven fifty six fifty five cars to the talk station,
Bright Part Insight Scoop Oliver Laying London Bureau Chief next,
followed by the Deep Dive with Daniel Davis at eight

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Hey five coming to me No. Six here if you
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be filling in for me tomorrow and then on Thursday
and Friday, gonna be doing a best of the morning show,
and I'm just gonna rerun some of the prior segments
while I relax and sleep in and do that kind
of thing, waiting for and hopefully he'll be calling in.

(01:59:20):
We are waiting for a call from London from Oliver Lane,
the London bureau chief for Breitbart. Not on the line yet,
so let me do this first, and if we have time,
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us see what Mississippi James has got this morning, Mississippi James,
Happy Tuesday to you, welcome back, Hey, Happy Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (02:00:32):
You doctor Brian. Now, Brian, I'm sort of surprised at
your claim of not knowing, you know, knowing so little
about the Federal Reserve. Are you man the.

Speaker 6 (02:00:43):
Guy Yeah, the guy for the well, the guy for
the It wasn't surprised.

Speaker 1 (02:00:51):
He's like, well, you're like most everybody else in the world, Brian,
because it's it's crazy. I you know, I have not
committed time, effort, and energy over the years to really
doing a deep dive into the FED. I figure it
is probably something that I'm gonna have to deal with
my entire life and I have no control over it.
So yeah, blame me for being uninformed. I will admit

(02:01:13):
to it, and I'm happy to well admit my ignorance
on a lot of topics. I am. I listen a
lot of topics. There's not a lot I know about,
but that's just kind of a life. So I mean,
what's your take on the whole thing?

Speaker 2 (02:01:27):
Now, what he said really wasn't nothing new. That conversation
been out I don't know how many years. Yeah, but
have you heard of a book called The Creature of Jackalilan.

Speaker 7 (02:01:38):
No?

Speaker 1 (02:01:39):
I have none.

Speaker 2 (02:01:40):
That's supposed to be a synopsis of the origination of
the FED. In nineteen eleven or nineteen thirteen, they went
down on the coast of Georgia at a private meeting.
And that's some of your big owe car tales and
banking cartales from New York. I hate to call it
names because I may get them twisted up. But the Rothschild,

(02:02:03):
the Morgan and they had this meeting down in Georgia, Coasta, Georgia,
a location called jack lyleand that's the name creatures of
just the island, And they created that federal reserve. It
was a private fund and it would probably well intended
because the government was spending money back then, so they say, hey,

(02:02:26):
why don't we set this up where the government have
to pay a feet to borrow money and that'll stop
them from baring so much money. So they call it federal.
Nothing federal about it is private. Yeah, And like everything,
it may start as a good concept to prevent something,

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but then it's.

Speaker 1 (02:02:48):
Swing so far.

Speaker 2 (02:02:50):
So every dollar that the Fed bar, it had to
pay his energy of feet and it was intending to
stop them from the government from bar and so much
like I say, when it won or right, you know, hey,
they bar more and more and if Feds had more
and more money, then it became a cash cow. Yeah, yeah,

(02:03:12):
check that out.

Speaker 1 (02:03:13):
I am looking at James, I'm looking at it right now.
As soon as you mentioned the name of the book,
I pulled it up on Amazon and they've got a
there's sort of a follow up edition. The original one,
as you pointed out, came out a long time ago,
but they have the creature from Jackal Island a second
look at the Federal Reserve, and you know, the intro
and the explanation of the book reads like exactly like

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you're talking, which I will use your comments as a
springboard to provide my listeners with you know, the breakdown
of the summary of what this book is about. Because
I think you just convinced me to read a book, James,
and I appreciate it so heavy. Listen, man, I'm not intomorrow.
I'm taking vacation, so I want you and your beautiful
wife to have a wonderful Thanksgiving. I hope you really

(02:03:56):
enjoy it. And you know how much I love hearing
from you. My friends, have a great holiday.

Speaker 10 (02:04:01):
So here we go.

Speaker 1 (02:04:02):
This is what it says. Amazon creature Jack Island a
second look at the Federal Reserve. This classic expose of
the FED has become one of the best selling books
in its category of all time. Where does money come from?
Where does it go? Who makes it? The money magician's
secrets are unveiled. Here's a close look at their mirrors,
smokes and machines, the pulleys, cogs and wheels that created

(02:04:25):
the grand illusion called money a boring subject. Just wait,
you'll be hooked in five minutes. It reads like a
detective story, which it really is. But it's all true.
The book is about the most blatant scam of history.
It's all here. The cause of wars, boom and bus cycles, inflation,
depression and prosperity. Your worldview will definitely change. Putting it

(02:04:47):
quite simply, this may be the most important book on
world affairs you will ever read. That's a bold statement.
The fifth edition fifth includes an Olholsbard analysis of bank
bailouts under the Bush and Obama miministrations that are shown
to be nothing less than legalized plunder of the American people.
Many other updates have been added, including a revision to

(02:05:08):
the list of those who attended the historic meeting at
Jekyll Island where the Federal Reserve was created. Well, that
sounds like a real page turner, James. So you got
me convinced. I'm gonna have to get a copy of
that and read it for myself. It has are you ready,
four eight hundred and sixty eight ratings, five stars, four

(02:05:29):
point eight across the board, So apparently a lot of
people read it, and a lot of people liked it. James,
Thank you, my friend. Appreciate you turning me on to that. So, yeah,
if you weren't listening earlier, James's call springs from my
conversation with Tom di Lorenzo, who's president of the Mesas Institute,
and I pointed out the outset. I mean, the FED

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is like the peace of God for me. It passes
all human understanding. But as Tom pointed out, he's got
a new documentary the Mesa's Institute Puts Out or put Out,
and you can get it on my blog page five
Casey dot com, because just got a link to the
page the name of the documentary playing with fire, money,
banking and the Federal Reserve. So I'm going to start

(02:06:11):
with that probably when I get home today, even though
I'm on vacation, I'll still take a look at it
and then maybe go back into that creature Checko Island.
And I bet there's a bunch of listeners out in
the audience go as you're an idiot you only just
know found out about that. Uh yeah, five three seven,

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five hundred, eight hundred and eighty two to three talk
pound five fifty on AT and T phones. So anybody
is where Oliver Lane is, the London Buera chief from Breitbart.
He's missing in action. He's supposed to be joining the
program here. Uh and I'm sorry he's not on while
we are celebrating the Trump when Europe on the brink
of war, he points out and I guess I want
to know why. I mean, we really seem to be

(02:06:53):
and Daniel Davis, assuming he joins me at bottom of
the air deep dive with Daniel Davis, He's gonna be
talking about the situation in Europe, Ukraine, Russia, and of
course WW three's on my notes as well. I'm very,
very very concerned, and I still am aching and I
just have this huge desire to know why we feel

(02:07:14):
the need to put our service members in Ukraine to
operate long range missiles into Russia. That's exactly what is happening.
No one is denying this. Those longer range missiles require
US military personnel to operate period, end of story. Are

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we answering to the generals from Ukraine? Are we the
United States of America, our Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, whoever?
Are we picking targets in the interior of Russia to hit?
And as Daniel Davis has pointed out previously, they aren't
doing a whole lot of good. First off, because it's
taken us to the next level maybe World War three,

(02:07:55):
but second because they have missiles that shoot them down.
So while escalating this to the point where Russia is
talking about nuclear war, and it's been changing its policy
for the use of nuclear weapons against anyone who helps
out the Ukrainians or fires missiles into the interior of Russia,

(02:08:17):
that will be us. We're not really accomplishing anything by
doing so. Oh is that him on the phone there.
We'll take a quick break and we will get to
Oliver Lane. Stay round KRC for more information. Hey, sixteen

(02:08:41):
fifty five KRC DE talk station. Better a few minutes
late than never. Welcome to the inside Scoop Ladition, Oliver Lane,
Lennonbiera chief to talk about. Well, you're up on the
brink of war. Welcome to the morning show, Oliver. It's
a pleasure to have you on.

Speaker 11 (02:08:55):
I'm good London. Sorry to delay, but glad to.

Speaker 2 (02:08:58):
Be on them.

Speaker 1 (02:08:58):
Oh, like I said, better late than never. I was
just going on a little bit of a spleen vent.
We the United States of America, have given Ukraine these
longer range missiles which have thus far been launched into
the interior of Russia. But it requires US Army personnel
or military personnel to operate them, given the security clearance
and all the other information they need from the United

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States military. So we are actively engaged in war, right now,
what's the point of this when those missiles typically get
shot down by the Russia's version of the Iron Dome
And are we really on the brink of war with
this activity?

Speaker 11 (02:09:34):
Oliver, Well, there's so many things here to which we
could append allegedly. Indeed, you say that these missiles can
only be fired with assistance from US troops. I do
believe that to be true, but I don't think we've
ever had exact confirmation of that. However, that is in
line with what we know about the other missile systems
that have been given to Ukraine, for instance by the

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United Kingdom the storm Shadow, a very potent bunker buster missile,
and also the skulp uppered by the French, very similar system.
And in terms of them being shot down, well, a
lot of this we have to rely on Russian claims.
And I was looking at yesterday almost like a classic
day in this conflict, where we have the Ukrainians on

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one side boasting that they have these fantastic strikes against
Russian airfields, Russian military installations, but complaining of course that
the Russians are bombing civilians. Then on the other hand,
from Russian state media, you have the boast that they
have struck successfully Ukrainian airfields and Ukrainian military installations and complaining,

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of course that Ukraine is bombing pavilion civilian.

Speaker 2 (02:10:46):
Places in Russia as well.

Speaker 11 (02:10:48):
So we really do have to rely and of course
both sides, of course saying those strikes, the enemy claims
they were ineffective. We shot down all the metals, we
shot down all the drones, So I then we do
have to take with a pinch of salt, claim that
Russia is shooting down all of these missiles. Some inevitably
will always get through and attack ems.

Speaker 2 (02:11:06):
As it's called.

Speaker 11 (02:11:07):
The Army Capital Missile System, which is what is now
being fired into Russian interior, is a modern, sophisticated US
weapons system, so we will expect it to achieve some strike.
But you know, you're talking about the escalation that we're
seeing here allegedly, what does this mean for US? And

(02:11:29):
I think the really sort of key thing to think
about here is how is Russia going to be interpreting
this and how do they feel about it, particularly in
the light of the US presidential election.

Speaker 1 (02:11:40):
I know, just a real change in.

Speaker 11 (02:11:42):
The tone of Russia's coverage of the Ukraine War and
the US involvement of it as soon as the election
results were in. And I know it's a bit kealya ready,
and I apologize to that. They used to call it
kremlinology back in the Cold War?

Speaker 1 (02:11:56):
Do you remember that.

Speaker 11 (02:12:00):
Long long time ago now? And I think, but what
I'm trying to divine is this, I think there's an
idea inside the Kremlin that actually the Biden era is over,
and even if Biden is doing stuff that is not
strictly logical or wise, like signing off on these six
when actually for months and years, the very clear Biden

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White House line has been this is dangerous as an escalation.

Speaker 1 (02:12:25):
We probably shouldn't do this.

Speaker 11 (02:12:26):
And then as soon as he loses the election, he
changes his mind, or whoever is in charge of Joe
Biden changed their mind.

Speaker 6 (02:12:32):
And I just wonder whether there's a.

Speaker 11 (02:12:33):
View inside the Kremlin which is okay, we've just got
to put up with this for two and a half
months and then we can speak to somebody who is
saying aka President Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (02:12:43):
Yeah. I think that's a very thoughtful and excellent analysis
because clearly, and in your riot, I mean you sort
of in passing reference something that we talk about all
the time here in the United States, which is Joe
Biden's not in charge of Joe Biden. Somebody has made
this decision on his behalf. Now is it this t
to screw around with in advance of Trump taking office,

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mess with the upcoming Trump administration, which to me I
find absolutely immoral, horrific, and that anyone would do that
just to aut as a measure of spite, put tens
of thousands or hundreds of thousands of people's lives at
risk just because they don't like the having lost the election.
I just hope that is not the case, but it
sort of seems that way. But if you're looking at it,

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as you point out, from the Kremlin standpoint, kremlinology great
line from the past. If you're look at it from
Putin's standpoint, it would be wise to just say, all right,
all right, all right, we can manage the situation. We'll
take a wait and see approach. If they shoot some
missiles out us, we'll try our best to knock him
out of the sky. But this war is not going
to go away anytime soon. So let's just take away

(02:13:45):
and see approach. Because Donald Trump has promised he's gonna
solve it, and let's see what he proposes, because I
presume any resolution of this war, and Oliver correct me
if you think I'm wrong, is going to be at
least some land concessions to the Russians.

Speaker 11 (02:14:02):
Well, that's definitely an option that's on the table. And
there's been all sorts of discussion, a lot of inks
bill over what President Trump's options might be. But the
fact is past and future President Trump really hasn't shown
his hand in terms of what his plan is to
bring peace. And of course I think it's fair to
say that actually he won this election in part on

(02:14:25):
a platform of peace, which is I think it's a
great thing actually for America that your people will actually
vote on something it's so fundamentally important as that. But
he hasn't told us what the plan is, and there's
clearly a good reason for that. But in terms of
where it could go, yes, of course, there's a discussion
of a territory slot, and that being the case. I

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hate to say it, like I hate to see my
friends lose, but Ukraine is kind of running out of
time on that because I think it's dangerous what they
did counter invading Russia. There's no doubt that is really
truly escalatory. And when I saw they'd done it, I
went ooh, Criky, where's this going to go? But in
terms of having it, when the negotiating table finally comes

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and Presidents Trump is sitting at the head of that
table and Presidents of Lensky is sitting opposite President Percy,
as I guess may may or may not happen, having
a few hundred square miles of Russian territory in your
hand is going to do you some good.

Speaker 1 (02:15:27):
Fair enough, fair enough. From a military strategic standpoint, I
don't know that it's doing the Ukrainians much good. But
in a treaty and in a resolution standpoint, it may
provide enough leverage that they can save some face giving
up some territory in Ukraine, most notably the territory that's
occupied by people who are predominantly leaning Russia. Anyway, real
quick here, I guess the other component of the fog

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of war, which you very clearly pointed out in terms
of are we really hitting that, are they really hitting this?
We don't know. It just seems to me that after
all this time, the Ukrainians are going to run out
of young men fighting the war, and that seems to
be one of the biggest challenges that they have right now.
Absent fresh boots on the ground, how are the Ukrainians

(02:16:10):
going to maintain the battlefront?

Speaker 11 (02:16:13):
Well, this is a real problem. And if you look
at the Ruffians having suddenly invited their friends in North
Korea to join the battle, I guess it's a problem that.

Speaker 2 (02:16:22):
They're facing as well.

Speaker 11 (02:16:24):
So Ukraine I think approached this war when it started
quite rationally, and it's a cruel decision for any politician
to have to make. But when they started, I mean,
we're going to call it conscription is actually inscription, but
I think it's close enough for us to use that
as shorthand. When they started bringing people into the military
by hook or by crook at the beginning of this war,

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they actually started much further up the population pyramid. I
believe even now, the average age of the Ukrainian soldiers
in their late thirties or early forties. And when you
see those photographs of active units in the field, a
lot of them are grizzled, bearded old men.

Speaker 6 (02:17:03):
And they've never really made.

Speaker 11 (02:17:05):
A comment on this as such in terms of explaining
their thinking that I'm aware of, but looking at it
from the outside, I strongly suspect this is because they
have an understanding that Ukraine has a finite number of
young men, as frankly all Western countries do. We're experiencing
a demographic collapse all across the wear and I suspect
they looked at and said, well, the guys who still

(02:17:28):
chance of having a family in the future, we're going
to call those up last. And I believe that will happened,
and that counts in Ukraine's favor. But in terms of
like the core of your question, let's be honest, is
how long do they really have to run with this conflict?
And so it's not just a matter of you know,
is Donald Trump going to stop stending missiles? Is the
European Union going to run out of money to keep

(02:17:50):
the war machine running? It's when are they going to
run out of bodies? Which is it's a horrible question
to have to contemplate. But this goes back again to
your story of this sorry, your point about the fog
of war, which is absolutely right. I cannot think of
a conflict that I have covered or researched in my time,
either as a journalist or an academic before that where

(02:18:11):
the Father War was so great, and actually we have
very poor information from both sides. In most wars you
can rely on at least one side, I mean small wars,
not generally you do get one your reliable picture of
what's happening, and that's it's not been so great in

(02:18:32):
the Ukraine War. Obviously, I don't feel like I can
really trust anything that Kremlin has to say.

Speaker 6 (02:18:36):
I think you'd have to be mad to do.

Speaker 11 (02:18:37):
So, right, But also, like Ukraine is in a is
in a absolutely generational war. It is it is a
it's a fundamental question whether that country.

Speaker 2 (02:18:48):
Will continue to exist.

Speaker 11 (02:18:50):
So I don't exactly blame them for doing the propaganda
game that they've done, because they have to do that
to keep themselves on the wall. But my god, it
makes it hard for the rest of us and the
rest of the world to really have a clear understanding
of like, really, how many casualties have they actually had,
how many of those were killed casualties, how many could.

Speaker 1 (02:19:09):
Return to the front line. You know, I don't want
to call it lies.

Speaker 11 (02:19:12):
That sounds very uncharitable and very unkind.

Speaker 1 (02:19:15):
But we do not have a good picture well they
got to maintain some measure of propaganda to keep the
idea of continuing to give them arms in play. Fascinating.
Oliver Lane, you a wonderful job. I appreciate the time
you spent my listeners me and I recommend as always
people bookmark Breitbart, b R E I T B A
art dot com for Oliver Lane, his writing and everybody

(02:19:35):
else there.

Speaker 6 (02:19:35):
Oliver, keep up the great work. I'll look forward to
having you on the program again real soon.

Speaker 11 (02:19:40):
Heany coming on stair.

Speaker 1 (02:19:41):
I appreciate it. Eight twenty seven Daniel Davis Deep Dive
come up next. We'll continue this war related conversation after
these brief words.

Speaker 3 (02:19:52):
Fifty five KRC.

Speaker 1 (02:19:55):
Is that time a week for the day Deep Dive
with Daniel Davis retireala tennant Daniel Davis on the program
every Tuesday to talk about well sadly speaking of late
war and I see World War three's on the list,
Daniel Davis. That does not comfort me any bit at all.
But let me wish you in an early happy Thanksgiving
and hope that you do enjoy your Thanksgiving. And I

(02:20:16):
fortunately get the rest of the week off, taking some
vacation time, so I don't suspect we'll end in a
happy note. Just got off the phone with Oliver Lane,
the London bureau chief for bright Bar, talking about of
course Ukraine. The fog of war came up. You know,
they did the missiles hit, didn't they hit? Did they
do damage? They didn't do damage. One side's got a statement,

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the other guy's got a statement. But I mentioned the
idea and my wonder, my wondering out loud over how
much longer Ukraine can even continue to fight, regardless of
the military hardware they are given and whether or not
we're operating it. But there's a finite amount of people
in Ukraine and a lot of them are getting killed

(02:21:01):
on the front line. And Oliver pointed out, you know,
when you see photographs in the front line battlefields, these
are old men. These are people in their forties or
fifties with you know, gray beards. And I mean, are
those the backup reserve troops. Are they going through the
old guys first before they get what's left to the
young people because nobody's having kids anymore.

Speaker 7 (02:21:21):
Where are we on this?

Speaker 1 (02:21:22):
And are I mean, I mean, you get where I'm
coming from on this?

Speaker 4 (02:21:26):
Unfortunately I do, And listen there's also a news out
just this morning that puts a little bit more facts
on this issue here, and that is that I think
I may have mentioned maybe last month or so, there
was a piece out in the New York Times that
had a graph that graphically depicted how much territory of
the Ukraine has been losing to Russia in the last

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six months, and there was a dramatic uptick, and as
of October I had set an old time record that
was more than all of the games that Russia had
made in twenty twenty two, which was pretty amazing since
that inn Isi invasion. And then now, as expected, the
numbers out for so far in November, and you see
we still got reporting more than a week to go

(02:22:09):
of the data from when it's again it's already exceeded
what they had lost in October. The last month, they
have lost more square kilometers than any single month of
the war. I mean, it's just unbelievable and of course
commensurate with all of those territorial losses or human losses,
and they're continuing to be killed in larger numbers. You're
right outside of this issue with the with the hypersonic

(02:22:31):
missile and the irashnik is it's called in Russian. Uh,
It's a very real issue that by itself, but even
off of that, by the headlines, off that on the ground,
the ground is just continuing to go in Russia's favor,
and no matter what anybody wants to say, if if
the war is not brought to a negotiated end pretty quick,

(02:22:53):
then Russia will win militarily on the ground by force
what they want. And that is a stark, cold reminder
that most in the West just can't get their head
around because they've been told stories the whole time about
how Ukraine's winning, in Russia's losing, et cetera. Listen, I
gotta tell you. I was on Fox News a couple
of days ago, and the anchor actually said he must

(02:23:17):
have believed this. But people are saying that Russia is
worn out and they're about to collapse at any moment.
I can't believe people are still saying that in the
third year of the war. But that's where we are
right now, very different than reality on the ground.

Speaker 1 (02:23:32):
So absent and infusion of troops, which I imagine would
come from NATO countries, they would have to enter into
this conflict. Turning it probably in the into a global conflict.
Ukrainians can't rely on the North Koreans the cent A
bunch of people have to fight the war on their
side of the of the field. So this is just

(02:23:53):
ultimately gonna slowly go in that direction. Do you think
that Vladimir Houghton, with the new election with Donald Trump
taking over, might take us a little bit more of
a wait and see approach because he has heard Donald
Trump say it. You've heard Donald Trump say it. I
don't know how he plans on accomplishing it, but laying
hands on this situation and resolving this conflict right away,

(02:24:16):
obviously that is going to require, at least in my mind,
I'm going to rely on your learned opinion over mine.
If it's wrong, it's going to require Ukraine to give
up some land in order to resolve the conflict. They're
gonna have to give back what they did in invading Russia,
but also make major concessions on Ukrainian land in any
resolution with it doesn't involve well just losing completely right.

Speaker 4 (02:24:39):
Yeah, the first point, no, Putin is not taking await
and see attitude. He is is put on the accelerator
and he is pressing harder and faster, and they are
taking more and more territory. He is going to do
everything he can to put on the table before January
twentieth conditions for Trump to come and negotiate.

Speaker 10 (02:24:58):
This just I've got all all the big cards here.

Speaker 4 (02:25:01):
I want to negotiate, He's already said, but Putin has
willingly I will definitely talk to him, would be happy
to do so.

Speaker 10 (02:25:07):
He's never said anything different all throughout the war.

Speaker 4 (02:25:10):
We've had many chances to have this stopped with negotiations,
We're unwilling to do so.

Speaker 10 (02:25:15):
Now Putin's going.

Speaker 4 (02:25:16):
To show both strategically with that orationik that was just fired,
and tactically on the ground. I have all the cards,
and if you want to have a negotiated settlement, it
will definitely require the succeeding of a large amount of
territory and then Russia it already has, and probably more
than the current line of contact in negotiation. If Trump

(02:25:37):
doesn't agree to that, he'll just keep his foot on
the accelerator and keep going.

Speaker 10 (02:25:42):
That's the hard part about this.

Speaker 4 (02:25:44):
I kind of had hoped that by the time Trump
came in, if he had won, that he would be
in a position to maybe freeze to call along the
current line of contact. But now then that's off the
table in my view, because Putin has the ability to say, no,
I'm not willing to take any deal order of the
territory that I think we need for our security. And
so I think that we're gonna be in a tough situation.

(02:26:07):
By the way, I don't know if you've seen, but
there's been some really conflicting signals coming out of the
Trump camp. Coming out you had one Mike Waltz on
Fox News, you know, recognized kind of what you said
that there's you know, there's potential for conflict all over
the place. We could be into a global conflict really
fast if things don't get taken care of. So they
want to have a negotiated settlement. Then you had Gorka

(02:26:30):
Sebastian Gorka go on separately and say that Putin's gonna
come or Trump's gonna come in and demand that Putin
to give him exactly.

Speaker 6 (02:26:38):
What he wants.

Speaker 4 (02:26:39):
Or if you think we've given a lot of stuff
Ukraine so far as peanuts compared to what we're gonna do,
which is not a good signal, and it's a contradictory signal.
So it's unclear exactly what Trump is gonna do when
he takes office.

Speaker 1 (02:26:51):
Well, the contradictory signal seems, you know, maybe logical from
some level to keep them confused, because that way we're
not hardline in any one direction or another. But I
mean I find the idea of continuing to throw hardware
at this to just be a wasted proposition, given there's
got to be people behind the guns to use them
and shoot them and defend the territory, and that's not
happening right now, as you point out. So I know

(02:27:17):
that there are areas of Ukraine who are pro Russia.
I mean, that was the situation with Crimea. Correctly, they
weren't necessarily Oh yeah, so what is Russia? Let's look
down the road. I mean, the worst case scenario, Russia
takes over and takes over the entire territory. What are
they biting off in that regard because I think of,

(02:27:37):
you know, the anti Russian people who would still be there,
the pro Ukrainian the patriotic Ukrainians you know, fighting a
guerrilla war or constantly like you know, mosquitoes going after
the larger Kremlin occupiers. How do you see that playing
out over the long term.

Speaker 10 (02:27:54):
Yeah, it certainly could.

Speaker 4 (02:27:56):
And you may recall even before February twenty twenty two,
when all the Russian forces were massed around there, there's
a lot of talk in the West that Ukraine couldn't
fight a conventional war against Russia and win, so they
were already planning even then for a.

Speaker 10 (02:28:13):
Guerrilla world war. That I mean like that from the outset.

Speaker 4 (02:28:17):
Then all of a sudden, Ukraine did a lot better
in the first year than anyone thought, and that kind
of tabled that. But I would imagine that there's so
much hatred for Russia in the West that just like
we did in Afghanistan and when the Soviets invaded in
the eighties, that we would probably still support, you know,
a clandestine operation just to keep Russia, keep people nipping
at their ankles, et cetera.

Speaker 10 (02:28:37):
But I think that Putin is aware of a lot
of this.

Speaker 4 (02:28:39):
And so I doubt very seriously he's just gonna go
and conquer all the country because that would be botting
off a huge, you know, hard headache for him long term,
because especially in the western half of the country, there
is intense hatred for Russia and he has no interest
in any of that. So I think that he would
limit himself territorially to the other part, to the western part,

(02:29:00):
as long as that what's left in the East, I'm sorry,
what's left in the western part of the country is
non aligned and not going to be in NATO. I
think that he'll be okay with that. We'll see how
it works out. But that's what he said from the beginning.
I think that's probably true.

Speaker 1 (02:29:15):
Well, and that speaks volumes to negating the whole idea
that you know, his designs are on all of the
eastern NATO countries. I mean, that's that's just not possible.

Speaker 4 (02:29:26):
That's always been a canard by the war supporters to
try and fear cost, fear in people to say, oh
my god, it's Hitler again.

Speaker 10 (02:29:32):
It's never been that way. He still doesn't have the
capacity to roll in and take conquer and territory. He
doesn't have it. He has no interest in it.

Speaker 1 (02:29:40):
Daniel Davis Deep Die find him online podcast Deep Die
with Daniel Davis. Daniel, I always enjoy our conversations. I
look forward to next Tuesday in another one. Keep up
the great work.

Speaker 10 (02:29:49):
And always my pleasure and have a good Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 (02:29:52):
Thanks I'm giving to you and yours as well. Take
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