Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas 12/30/24

Kevin Gordon fills in for Brian Thomas as he talks with former Vice Mayor of Cincinnati Chris Smitherman plus Steven Mosher of Population Research Institute joins the show to talk myths about overpopulation.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Three minutes after five o'clock. Happy sixth day of Christmas.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Can you believe it?

Speaker 1 (00:19):
We're already halfway through the Christmas season. And for those
of you that weren't listening last week, you know, everybody
seems to be confused in terms of when the twelve
days of Christmas occur. Twelve days of Christmas don't occur
up to Christmas. It actually begins on Christmas Day and
then extends for the next twelve days through the twelfth night,

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which is January the fifth, and then the Epiphany on
the sixth, which is the day that, according to legend,
the Magei the three Wise Men appeared and this was
the presentation of the divinity of the Christ Child. So
again I kind of rail at people to take the
Christmas decorations down early. They should all stay up for

(01:04):
those twelve day period of time up until the Epiphany,
and that is, according to tradition, the right way to
do it. So that in mind, I just thought i'd
rail about that for a second or two. By the way,
if you check out my Facebook page, which every time
I come in here I usually post. Usually I always
post on Facebook who my guests are and just give

(01:26):
you a little quick rundown of who's coming on. At
seven twenty we're gonna be talking to Christopher Smitherman. Of course,
he is the former vice mayor of Cincinnati, and I'm
sure you've been when you listen in on Mondays, you
know that Brian has a christherin Chris Smitherman on for
the smither event, and looking forward to talking to him.

(01:47):
He's always got some great stuff. Then at eight oh five,
I'm gonna be talking with Steven Moser. He's the president
Population Research Institute. We'll discuss the miss of over the
myths of over popular human rights abuses committed by population
control programs, and the demonic nature of the communist China.

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He's got some firsthand knowledge of that, and of course
their pro life we'll be talking about their Population Research
Institute's goals pro life goals for twenty twenty five. So
give you a kind of an update is as far
as who we're going to be talking to today, who
the guests on the program will be, and so big weekend.

(02:33):
I hope everybody had a great weekend. I had a
fantastic weekend. I don't know if I mentioned this last week,
but we've got our son and his three daughters and
of course his wife who live up in Toledo. Well
the one daughter lives down here, but they moved up
to Toledo to take a job up there, and so
kind of postponed the Christmas festivities we got. On Christmas,

(02:56):
I mentioned last week, we got to do the FaceTime
and online with the grandchildren over the Netherlands, and then
Christmas we just kind of had me and my wife
just had a fun time around the house and had
a great dinner and everything. Then we kind of, well,
the way things worked out, Saturday after Christmas, they were

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going to come on down to try to celebrate because
our granddaughter's birthday is January the third, so they're trying
to separate or trying to I guess pick a time
in between there to kind of celebrate both of those events.
And so they came down and on Saturday and we
had a great time. I mean, you know, you know

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sometimes when you plan something in advance and you say, Okay,
this is how it's going to be, and this is
what we're going to do, and it always seems that
things seem to go awry. Generally a lot of times
what happens is those impromptu things that you're doing as
far as planning or you decide to do something at
the last minute, those tend to work out the best.

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But on this occasion, we kind of planned ahead, figured
out what we're going to do menu wise, and made
sure that everything was there. Everything went smoothly. It was
a great time. Everybody loved the gifts and it was
it was just fantastic seeing the girls and just had
a great time. And then, of course Saturday afternoon we
capped that off after they took off because the one

(04:24):
daughter had to go to work and then they were
driving back up to Toledo. So watched the Bengals game,
and I'll tell you what. We'll talk a lot about
that here coming up, but man, I got to tell
you that was one of the most exciting and one
of the most interesting games that.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
I have seen in a very, very very long time.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Of course, we came out on the winning end of that,
and we'll talk a little bit about that tore. Of course,
the playoff implications of that did gets a little bit
of good news yesterday that one of the two teams
that had to lose at least one game, the Indian Colts,
lost their game, So now the only other team that's
got to lose is Miami Dolphins, and of course Bengals

(05:07):
have to beat Pittsburgh on or whatever, and now the
playoff or the It seems like the NFL schedule here
is kind of in a flux. I guess the NFL
wants to get the best ratings and the most ratings
and get as many eyes and on the various games,
so they've been moving the schedules around, and a lot
of the stuff that I'm reading, I'm seeing stuff like, well,

(05:29):
the players are just going to go where they're told
to go, and they'll show up on what time they're.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Supposed to show up.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
And it's going to be interesting to see how the
schedule comes out and when that's going to happen. So
it's gonna be very interesting to see how it goes.
And I was telling my wife, it just seems that
there's something, and I don't know what it is. You
look at certain things, and when you have something where

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everything has to fall in place, and if one thing
happens and that doesn't happen, then everything just goes by
the wayside.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
And with the.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Bengals having to win out and having to have other
teams lose. It's interesting how when you see the well,
at least the first step okay, obviously step number one
is doesn't happen, then step number two doesn't matter, three, four, five, whatever.

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But it seems that the way this is gone, they
won their four final was it the four final games?
And then of course they beat Broncos on Saturday, which
is what they were supposed to do, and then Indianapolis loses,
and if Miami winds up losing, and then it just
seems that, you know, one of those things where things

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just seem to be heading in a direction where things
are going to fall in place. Now, of course, this
could be all or not if the Bengals don't beat
the Steelers on I think they're playing on Sunday, but
it'll be interesting to see what happens there. And of course,
uh some other things. Of course, in the headlines, Jimmy

(07:11):
Carter uh died at age at one hundred, passed away yesterday,
and all the tributes are coming in guarding him, and
some of the comments there that have come in about
him is you know, of course a lot of people
are there's they're singing his praises and I think we

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need to be very not optimistic, but at least honest
about the Carter uh presidency for what it was. And
of course we'll talk a little bit about that today
as well. But I'm not one of these that are
going to just, you know, pile on praises to somebody who,
in my opinion, had a very bad presidency.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
The only thing that you know, at least he lived
long enough so that somebody else was the worst president
the country ever had. And that's the current occupancy of
the current occupant of the White House, and that will
come to an end on January twentieth. But the things
that I am seeing as far as the media, it
seems that they're now granted, Jimmy Carter did have a

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great post presidency with his habitat for humanity and was
a decent human being that way. But the thing that's
always left out of these discussions when they talk about
people that are decent people, and they especially those on
the left, and those are the people that are the
Democratic Party, the one thing that's always left out of that,
and in my opinion, I don't know how you can

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call somebody a decent person when they are pro choice
and when they believe they don't believe in the sanctity
of life, when they double down on the issue and
they push that NonStop, and they're very outspoken about that,
and people will say, well, well, Kevin, you know, how
do you feel? You know, I'm sorry, you know that's

(09:00):
the way I feel. And when people tell me their
pro choice, my first comment is, obviously, you haven't thought
about the issue long enough, because if you really think
about the actual procedure, if you look at the pictures,
if you look at the development of what they refer
to as the fetus from day one, the first week,

(09:22):
second week, the first month, second month, and so on,
you quickly realize that what they tell everybody that is
just a clump of cells is not a clump of
cells when you look at the heartbeat, the fact that
that when that occurs, and the whole.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Business of this roe v. Wade.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Back in the day when it was first passed, one
of the people that wrote that opinion said, if they
ever determine, if they ever determine, as if you know,
that's not a matter of science, if they determine when
life begins, roe v. Wade goes by the wayside, because
if it's life and you kill it. That's not right,

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that's murder. And so to have this procedure and to
not I mean I can remember when the Democrats talked
about needs to be legal, safe, and rare. Well, they
got the legal part. They certainly didn't get the safe part,
and they didn't get the rare part either.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
In fact, they have.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
The more that they can do, the more that planned
parenthood can perform, the more they justify their existence. And
I cannot think of a worse organization that takes somebody
in the time of one of their biggest crisis, that
something that is they're afraid they don't know which an

(10:51):
unplanned pregnancy, and instead of offering solutions, just get rid
of it. And I think that is such a demonizing type.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Of way to go. I think it's horrific.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
And when there are so many other options available that
those are completely ignored, and then when you look at
the risks that aren't discussed, when you look at the
complications that aren't discussed, it is amazing that people actually
get by with not inform a clear, clear, and you know,
informed decision. So when you get right down to it,

(11:29):
the people that are pushing pro choice they're not. They're
not for U informed choice. It's just a matter of hey,
can we perform the procedure and justify our existence. Of course,
we'll talk about more about this, but I want to
get a couple of comments and talk about Jimmy Carter's
presidency here coming up, and of course we'll get to
all of that as well as our guests later.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
On in the program.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Phone numbers five one, three, seven, four, nine, fifty five,
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five KR see the talk station. Okay, a little bit
of hiccup here with the computers this morning, but we
will work our way through it. You know, I want

(12:15):
to talk a little bit about the Bengals because I
thought it was an exciting game. I thought it was
very amazing, and I thought the way that they pulled
off this victory. I don't know if you watch the game.
I know this isn't a sports show, but when you
look at how the game started, the number of times
that they went on fourth down and they just didn't
quite well, they didn't weren't successful. It kind of looked

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like the game was going to go in the Broncos favor.
And of course the Broncos had a couple of series
where they just just annihilated the Bengals defense, coming down
the field and just scoring. It almost seemed like they
could score it well. And of course it always seems
to happen that during a Bengals game or certain times
during the year, that records are set that have never

(12:59):
been done, and it's always against the Bengals. And I
think one of the pass plays during the game was
the longest pass play in air of the entire season,
a sixty seven yard touchdown pass where somehow the defender
let the guy get behind him. And it's just and
you look at some of the techniques sometimes that it's

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done as far as these players are concerned, and it's
almost like, you know, have they forgotten all of the
stuff that they learned when they were in grade school,
high school, college and some of the things that they
should have learned as a professional. But again, the Bengals
still pull it out. But it was a very exciting game.
And the sad thing about this entire of this entire
season is that Joe Burrow has had an MVP type.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Season.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
He is one of the top passing I think he
has the I think he's a league leader as far
as passing yards, all the records that he's set, as
far as the Bengals are concerned, the number of yards,
that number of down and it's just it's so sad
that when they do the figuring for the MVP that

(14:08):
it isn't the best performance of everybody in or anybody
in the league. If you don't have a winning record,
if you're not going to the super Bowl, if you're
not making the playoffs, it seems that all the other records,
all the other individual achievements are pushed to the wayside.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
And it's a sad thing.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
And I have to say that I wish the Cincinnati
Bengals of the front office, the management would do something
in terms of recognizing that they have a once in
a lifetime type of quarterback. I think Joe Burrow now,
granted the first couple of years, with the injuries and

(14:48):
so on, I wasn't quite sure. I wasn't convinced that
Joe Burrow was the all and end all. But when
you see now that he's put on a few pounds,
they see that the fact that he's healthy and the
stuff that he can do. We always hear about Patrick
Mahomes and we could talk about all the wonderful stuff
that he's done and what a great quarterback he is,

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and we will hear NonStop what a great quarterback Buffalo
Bills quarterback Josh Allen is and some of the things
he can do. But when you look at the accomplishments
of Joe Burrows stacked up against those two, and what
he can do if he has the time, if he
has the line in front of him, and the fact
that he's got the receiving core that he has the

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stuff that he can accomplish that way, and if when
you have a decent running back, and of course they
do the backup that they've been using, the fact that
he has been very, very good, But of course he
got banged up over the weekend. And it just seems
that if the Bengals would the front office would would

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solidify that team and spend at least the money that
they could to get the quality talent. And in some
instances you don't have to pay top dollars. Sometimes you
can get somebody for a one year deal. What was
I seeing last night though? Was it Matthew Stafford, No,
Sam Donald that took the job. It was kind of

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floundering around as a free agent. Took a one year
contract for ten million dollars. And it's just you know,
sometimes you get a bargain like that and the team
loves him. He's doing very well, and it's just putting
the right person in the right team in order to

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do well. And I wish that the Bengals, like I said,
would do the necessary work to get a group around
Burrow to take advantage of the fact that you have,
as I said, a once in a lifetime talent. So
just my two cents worth coming up, we'll talk a
little bit about Jimmy Carter and his accomp puish months

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or lack thereof. I'm Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas,
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(17:34):
Gordon in for Brian Thomas fifty five kre SEE the
talk station. Some local headlines were covering for you this morning.
There seems to have been a uh I can't believe this.
In the last two weeks the state has felt the
state of Ohio has felt two noticeable earthquakes. It's just

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Ohio isn't known for earthquakes, but you know, we sit
on this uh New mad At fault that occasionally kind
of rears its ugly head, and they've been told for
a number of years that we are going to have
one of a very massive earthquake. It hasn't happened yet.
There hasn't been one major occurrence in over hundreds of years,

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but in recent weeks recorded the US Geological Survey. Early Sunday,
the USGS recorded a two point nine magnitude earthquake in
northwest Ohio. The quake was detected at six forty six am,
less than a mile southeast of Hicksville at the Indiana border.

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And then, on December the sixteenth, at four thirty pm,
a three point three magnitude earthquake struck far southern Ohio,
less than two miles northwest of Chesapeake along the Ohio River. Now,
those earthquakes, earthquakes are very rare. The last time an
earthquake the Cincinnati area was in twenty eighteen, a one

(19:03):
point five magnitude quake shook Carmont County. And that was
not that was something that was known or felt. Now
I can remember, and I goosh, I'm trying to remember
when it was it was. I think it was back
in the late seventies. Possibly it had to be the

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late seventies. I was on the phone with my dad,
He's lived from Columbus, and I was talking to him,
and I'm standing in the kitchen. Of course, you know,
back then, you didn't have cell phones. You didn't have
even the wireless phones. You had the corded phone mostly.
And I was on the phone with him, and all

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of a sudden, the house started shaking and it felt
like it sounded like some sort of an eighteen wheeler
was coming down our street. Now we lived at the time,
I lived in this residential area up in Mount Washington,
and the only time you ever saw eighteen wheelers was
you know, if people were moving or you know, you

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didn't never saw them because of the narrowness of the
streets and you only saw the moving vans once in
a while. But this literally sounded like a truck was
coming down the street at about thirty five forty miles
an hour and with the engine revving and whatever. And
I said, oh my god, I said, it feels like

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a truck just passed by. And my dad said, well,
our house just shook two. So they felt the tremors
up there. As far as Columbus, now, it's very rare
that we do get those kinds of things, and we
are they tell us on record or due for a
major earthquake sometime in the near future. Now, of course,

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what they determined as the near future, I don't know.
It's you know, it's always amazing how much they predict
these things and how few times they actually do happen. Now,
there was an accident down there on the banks. I'm

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having trouble pulling that story up, but apparently there was
a car that jumped the sidewalk down there and went
ahead and injured some pedestrians. We'll get some facts on
that here coming up. But it seems similar to a
situation we had down in Newport a couple of years ago.
But it just doesn't appear to be a car that

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was being chased by the police, but there was a
stolen car that was coming through the area and crashed
into're building downtown Newport that killed several people a few
years ago. But doesn't appear that anybody was killed, but
certainly there were some injuries. So we're going to cut
out here real quick, take an early break here and
come back, and then we'll talk a little bit about

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Jimmy Harder and his impact. Phone numbers five one, three, seven,
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Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas, fifty five krc D
Talk station. It's going to be interesting over the next
several days to see all the tributes coming in for
Jimmy Carter. Now again, I'm not going to take away
from the fact of his post presidency as far as
what he accomplished and the the work that he did

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post presidency. But when I look at his presidency and
when he was elected, it was after Watergate. We had
the first president that was in office that was never
elected to that office, either as a vice president or
a president. We had the whole Watergate fiasco that had happened.

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We had during that period of time Spiro Agnew who
resigned the vice presidency because of some misdeeds and some
fraud that he did some financial dealings in Maryland where.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
He was from. I think he was from Maryland.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
So he resigned, and so then the presidency of the
vice president was appointed and it was Gerald Ford. Then
when Nixon resigned, Ford took over. Now Ford was never
elected to that position, he was nominated to that position.

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So you had Nixon resigning in seventy four, and then
you had a two year campaign of Gerald Ford trying
to pull the country back from what had happened and
what transpired during Watergate. And as a side note, if
you look back on Watergate, what was done then and
you look at the scandal that that was that led

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to the resignation of Richard Nixon far pales in comparison
to what we have witnessed with the Biden administration over
the last four years. You know, not to mention the
record high inflation, but the cloud hanging over that nobody
seems to want to investigate in the Justice Department, Hunter Biden.

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Remember the whole deal with the laptop, that it was,
that it was Russian disinformation, the hidden from the hidden
stories from the spoon fed regurgitators in the mainstream media.
And we can go on and on about the Biden administration,
the corruption, the dealings with China, the dealings with Hunter Biden.

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And we see over the weekend that they're actually pictures
that were released by the National Archives showing Joe Biden
with Hunter Biden, with some of the people that Hunter
Biden was doing business with. And the fact that Joe
Biden said, I never talked to my son about his business.
I never talked to any family members. Well, that's a

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flat out lie. We know the millions of dollars that
the Biden crime family got, so aside from all that,
that pales in comparison. Then throw on top of that
the fact that we have been lied to and the
depths of the lives that have been told to us
over the entire four year period of time. Washington, The
Wall Street Journal last week came out with that story,

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and we'll probably talk about that a little later on,
talking about how they covered up for him, how they
tried to hide his mental decline, and how they kept
things from him, how he was only surrounded by certain
certain members of his closest advisors, and so the press
that saw this didn't report on it, so they didn't

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do their job. The people that were in the Oval
office and the people that were part of his staff
hid it from us. And so this is, to my
in my opinion, one of the biggest scandal, the biggest
scandals that we've ever had in this country. And yet
Watergate pales in comparison to that. But aside from that, Okay,

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gerald Ford comes into office, He pardons Nixon because they
wanted to prosecute him and all this, and he thought, well,
we got to end this business and we need to
move forward, and of course that hurt him politically. And
then Jimmy Carter comes on as this wonderful kind of
you know, the southern charm and governor of Georgia and

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speaks a good line and they vote him into office,
and I think it was just a protest against Gerald
Ford and the Republicans at that time. But from day one,
I mean it was a disaster. We had record high inflation.
I believe if I read correctly, that the average inflation
numbers every year was nine point one percent or thereabout

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the average over his entire presidency. And so when you
and this is the thing with inflation, is that inflation
is not just a one off. If you look at
inflation and they give you the number for a particular
period of time and say inflation was four percent or
as back in June of twenty twenty two at nine
point one percent, that that is not just a one

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off and then it falls back to zero. No, the
inflation that you get is then compounded by the next
month's inflation on top of that. So if you've got
nine point one percent in one month, and then the
following month you've got another three percent, well now you're
you know, twelve twelve percent beyond. And you see this

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in terms of a lot of the food that we
have and a lot of stuff have doubled in price
over the last four years or three and a half
years or thereabouts. We've seen what that's done in the energy.
But then Carter comes into office. We have record high inflation,
We had record high interest rates. People don't remember or
seem to remember that back during the Carter years, we

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had interest rates on homes, interest rates on homes of
around twenty two percent. We freak out now when interest
rates are nudging up against ten percent. But the housing
market was horrendous. Then throw on top of that, you
had the Iranian hostage situation. You had the energy crisis,

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you had the gas lines, you had the Russian invasion
of Afghanistan. You had Carter forcing our athletes boycott the Olympics.
Imagine working your entire life to achieve something and then
all of a sudden, you're allowed to compete on that stage.

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And so when you got through the entire Carter administration,
of course, with the hostage crisis, fifty two of our
American diplomats and people at the Iran embassy in Tehran
were held hostage for four hundred and forty four days.
And all this talk about getting the hostages out, getting

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the hostages out, well, and I remember Ted Kopple, he
used to he got on usually about what eleven thirty
at night, after the local news it was. They thought
that it was only going to go on for a
little bit of time. But they started off doing the
newscast or whatever you know this is, you know, whatever
the name of the show was.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Forget what it was, look, but it.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Was number three or you know, number thirty that America
held hostage. That's how he opened this program. And so
that went on almost every night up until right before
Reagan took office when they released the hostages. Now it
was a political move on the part of Iran. Was
it fear of Reagan? Who knows, but apparently this was done.

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Now in his presidency afterwards, Carter had an amazing, uh situation.
It was a much better post president than he was president.
So and now I'm seeing all kinds of crazy stuff
on the left. We'll talk about coming up. Five phone
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to the phone. So let's talk to Linda. Linda fifty
five kerosee, thanks for Colin. How are you this morning?
And an early happy New Year to you.

Speaker 4 (31:19):
I'm very well and I say happy New Year to everybody.
I remember the Carter days. I was working for an
oil company and uh, we were not allowed to have
raises because the government said so. But Congress received their raises.
Of course, I'll never forget that, but I often you

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know Carter was was not the best of presidents at all,
but he'll be elevated. Watch in the news and in
everything they say about him. He'll be the best president
we ever had. I wanted to ask you a question
and see if it was even worth talking about. Late
in the program, do you think that our representative in Kentucky,

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Massey is going to hold up the certification of the
new president?

Speaker 1 (32:12):
Wow?

Speaker 4 (32:15):
Have you seen that he's against it? He's against Johnson,
and if he goes against Johnson, we do not have
the votes to bring Johnson in again. And if he
does this, we can't certify the election. And if this
is true, I have to say, if it's true, then

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should we not all be contacting Massey in Kentucky and
tell him to get with it. We need this president certified.
You know, have you heard about that?

Speaker 2 (32:50):
I have heard.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
I know that Massey has not said he is not
going to vote for Johnson for speaker, and he doesn't
think that there's that He doesn't think there's a lot
of people that will be voting for him. But they
will have to find if that's the case, then they
will have to find somebody. Now, granted, they've got from

(33:13):
January the first until January the sixth, in order on
January sixth when they do the certification, and they have
that period of time to find a new speaker if
he's not certified or does not become speaker. But I
you know, we're not going to wind up with Hakeem Jefferies.
That's for sure. It I have I don't know. I

(33:39):
I wish that at one point, at one just once
in my lifetime, that we had Republicans that realized that whatever,
you know, granted, I applaud their their intentions. I applaud
what they stand for, But sometimes what you stand for for,

(34:00):
you know, if you're if you're searching for that one
hundred percent and you're not willing to compromise and you're
not willing to back down for now and use the
fight later on, that bothers me. And what would really
upset me more than anything else is the fact that

(34:22):
he would hold up or the possibility of holding up
the certification of Donald Trump when he did absolutely nothing
to stop the certification of Joe Biden, and he was
very outspoken that he wasn't going to do that. So
that would really bother me. And if you know, then yeah,
I would say that people need to contact his office

(34:45):
and and find out exactly what it is that that
that you know needs to be done. But you know,
as we saw with Johnson's election or Johnson's selection by
the House to be the speaker, that took what five
different votes or over a couple of a week or

(35:06):
so period of time, and it's just a whole lot
of it frustrates a hell.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
I mean, let's put it that way.

Speaker 4 (35:13):
I am very frustrated because it took him forever. It
took him fourteen votes to get McCarthy in there. Yeah,
and now we're going to sit here and horse around
and put this country on hold. I mean, that's what
you're doing. We need to get these people in there
and working and doing what they're supposed to do. You

(35:34):
have to certify the election.

Speaker 5 (35:36):
You have to.

Speaker 4 (35:38):
Before January twentie. If we don't have time, and I'm
sitting there, where is the common sense? Get your guys
in there, and then address the Johnson right.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
And Johnson can be they can have a no confidence
vote anytime they want as far as bringing him down,
But in order to get things done and get things
off to a start, you need to do that first.
It's kind of like, well, you know, you got to
put You've got to do first things first. You know,

(36:10):
Part A, part B, part C have to happen before
you can get to part E.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
And I just.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
I mean, I've I've heard about that, but I you know,
it's kind of like you hear things and you you
kind of wonder, okay, well, cooler heads prevail. But I
guess the closer we get to January first, and then
the election of the speaker. I guess we'll see what happens,
but uh, yeah, it never hurts. Hey, it never hurts
to call your congressman or senators and let their offices

(36:40):
know how you feel about certain things. So, uh, that
part I would recommend for sure. But hey, Linda, thank
you so much for the phone call. I'm up against
the clock here. Time to get out of here for
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(37:23):
Hope you had a great weekend. By the way, if
you look at my Facebook page, you'll see who we've
got scheduled today. As I always do, I post when
we have as our guest coming up to seven twenty.
We've got Christopher Smitherman Formers, vice Mayor of Cincinnati in
the smither Event. And then at eight oh five we'll
be talking to Stephen Moser. He's president of Population Research Institute.

(37:47):
We'll discuss the myths of the of over the myths
of over population, human rights abuse committed by popular population
control programs, the dinam demonic nature of the communist China,
and the Population Research Institute pr I as it's known,

(38:08):
and their pro life agenda for twenty twenty five. Stumbling
through that, I should have my mouth is has It's
still on a weekend here. Everybody's talking about Jimmy Carter
and tributes to pouring in. But some of the interesting
things that I've been seeing too is the fact that

(38:30):
you know, the I don't know how else to say it.
It's that the left is just so over the top
as far as Trump derangement syndrome. And if anybody thought
that the left was going to stop, was going to

(38:50):
do what's best for the country, that they would ever
do anything that would benefit the country, if they would
just you know, pay attention to what the landslide election
and say, all right, we need to refocus what we did,
what we did wrong, how we blew the election, or

(39:10):
why we lost the election or whatever.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
None of this. It's just still the constant attacks.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
And I would have to say that I don't understand
why anybody on the right pays any attention to or
listens to anything that comes out of Hollywood anymore, anything
that comes out of the alphabet news organizations. They're all irrelevant.

(39:37):
That was proven as a result of the election. I
call her now oprah win fee because we heard or
found out that, no, she wasn't endorsing Kamala Harris out
of the goodness of her heart. She was paid to
do so. Al Sharpton, why is he still on MSNBC.

(39:58):
Why hasn't he been fired? He was paid to do
the glowing interview with Kamala Harris. That's not journalistic integrity,
that's not even promoting your ethics as far as the
station is concerned and damaging the brand. And you look
at the ladies of the view, if you look at
the ratings of CNN MSNBC, how they have tanked. It

(40:22):
is just, you know, there's talk that CNN is going
to be spun off and sold, MSNBC is going to
be spun off and sold. And when you look back
over the last couple of years, the lies that have
been coming from the spoon fed regurgitators in the mainstream media,
nobody should even be taken seriously over there. They shouldn't
be quoted, you shouldn't watch. And this is one of

(40:45):
the rubs I have about Fox, is that more eyes
see what the stupidity on the view or that it
is done on any of the other networks by them
showing clips of what they said, than the action viewers
seeing those clips. And what we found out during this
last election is that Hollywood is irrelevant. We learned what

(41:08):
a fraud Oprah win Fee is. We learned what Bruce
Springsteen is a fraud. Beyonce is a fraud. We also
saw what a fraud Barack Obama is and this was
exposed by the fact that he sung the praises he
selected the Kamala Harris that they organized this coup. And

(41:29):
we see over the last four years all of the
stuff that's been hidden from us, as far as Joe
Biden's decline, and it is astounding to me that nobody
wants to be talking about that. And I think that
one of the things that I talked about this last
week is that there needs to be an investigation, a

(41:53):
deep dive investigation, as to who's been running this country
for the last four years. It obviously wasn't Joe Biden,
and if the aides were making the decision and using
him as a mouthpiece, that is talk about an existential
threat to democracy where you have the pullet Bureau or

(42:18):
the advisors running the show and not the person at
the top. The president is the head of the country,
and if he's in a diminished capacity, then the constitution
demands that the members of the Cabinet do the twenty
fifth Amendment and remove him from office.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
They didn't do that.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
We had all of these network people that talked about how,
you know, I never forget Joe Scarborough, you know this
is the best Joe Biden ever and fu if you
can't handle the truth, that man should never be on
the air again. Karine Jean Pierre the lies that she
told from the podium, Jen Saki, the lies that she told,

(43:05):
and talking about how sharp behind closed doors, how sharp
he was ran rings around people. We saw over the
weekend he spent forty percent of his presidency on vacation,
hidden away on the beach, away from the cameras, away
from actually being asked questions. The press was held at

(43:29):
bay as he's walking to and from Air Force one
or Marine one or whatever, and this was a complete
cover up, and any of the bills that he signed,
any of the stuff, any of the proclamations that he made,
any of the executive orders that he did, should be
all and void. And I think it'd be interesting to

(43:52):
look at. And I've heard some legal experts say that
I don't think this can be done. But the pardons
that he is issued, even the pardon of his son,
I think those need to be looked at also, because
if somebody's in a diminished capacity and they go, maybe
we won't be able to do something about the son

(44:13):
because he might have the mental capacity for that. But
the fact is is that if you are of a
diminished capacity and you're doing stuff, that's all null and void.
You see all the time the situations where in family
and wills and trusts and stuff where the last will

(44:34):
and testament is contested because it's alleged that the person
that wrote the will or that signed the will was
of diminished capacity, and they allitigate that.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
I think a case can be made here.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
Now.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
I've heard some of these.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
Legal experts that say, well, in order to have these overturned,
you have to have a charge, or you have to
have a he health exam, a mental exam, and you
have to have it certified or done by a professional,
by a physician. I think that's bs. I think you

(45:10):
look at the recordings, you look at the tape. It's
not tape, but it's the recordings of Biden's from the
time of during his campaign up unto and the progression
during his presidency, and see that diminished capacity, just the
facial features alone, the wandering off, the confusion, not being

(45:34):
able to put two sentences together. I think this is
the thing that you can make a case that this
was diminished capacity. And to say that you have to
do that, well, then I'll say, okay, well, we are
going to overturn every one of these pardons and we're
putting these people back on death row. We're doing away

(45:54):
with what the thirteen hundred pardons that he had already
done or commutations, erase those and then start the conversation that, well,
all right, if you want to if you want to
prove this, then okay, Biden's got to take a mental
competency exam. He has to be investigated by doctors, he
has to be reviewed by examined by doctors. And again

(46:17):
the White House physician. That guy should be that guy
should have his license removed. He should be thrown out
of the of the medical profession. I mean, all of
the lies that we have seen, all of the stuff
that has been done to this country. The embarrassment that
this man has created is just astounding and should never go.
I mean talk about you know, as I've said, an

(46:40):
existential threat to democracy. And this is key everything that
the left talks about. Whenever the left is accusing anybody
on the right or making an allegation of anything, know
for a fact that what they're saying is what they've
already done or are doing, because you can go from
the Russian hoax to everything else that was accused of

(47:03):
Donald Trump and they are guilty of it. And more so,
you don't bend the law. You don't change the law
so that then now you can prosecute somebody for something
that wasn't against the law before, or that the statute
of limitations has run out. And I think, and you know,
when I look at these and when I look at
the Hunter Biden, and I don't see anybody talking about
this on a deep dive analysis. When you look at

(47:28):
the broad and with of the pardon of Hunter Biden.
What is that covering up when you go back and
that he's pardoned for anything he may have done up
to eleven years ago. How do you pardon somebody from
something that they haven't been charged with yet. I don't

(47:50):
know that that's even legal. I mean, if you don't
know what crimes the person committed, and you pardon them
for everything lunch, then what if the person murdered somebody
that we don't know about. What about any of the
other crimes and the connected crimes with the other members
of the family. I don't think that's legitimate. I don't

(48:13):
think in the a reasonable person would look at that
and say that makes sense. And if as as Biden
is going out of office, has been theorized that he
does all these blanket pardons for all these people that
were part of his administration, for people in the media,
for people here, all these different things that they're saying

(48:34):
they ought to do a preemptive pardon for anybody because
they're they're talking about that, Oh, the Trump administration is
going to target individual people with law fair the way
he was targeted with lawfair. Okay, they didn't they didn't
care about that at the time. But because he's going
supposedly going after his enemies, No, I don't think it's

(48:55):
a matter of going after the enemy, his enemies, because
they are our enemy. They are enemies of this country
who perpetrated this lie and all this stuff. As far
as the Biden administration and these the use of the
Justice Department to attack their rivals, this should be investigated.
And if these people are and if these people are pardoned,

(49:19):
then I would still do the investigation to bring out
the details of what they did, because just sweeping this
under the rug isn't going to send a message. Because
these people need to be outed. They need the spotlight
needs to go on them for all the crimes and
all of the misdeeds and the destruction that they attempted

(49:42):
at our southern border, with our economy, with everything with
this administration. In my opinion, this is an administration and
the people that were part of this administration don't care
about this country. They want to see this country or
they wanted to see this country completely torn down to
the bottom and rebuilt. And that is something that I

(50:02):
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Speaker 2 (50:29):
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Speaker 1 (50:31):
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you about Jimmy Carter, And I'm encouraging anybody to call
in and with their thoughts of Jimmy Carter and how

(50:52):
you viewed his presidency and post presidency. And I will
not dispute how his post presidency was and how he
conducted himself in the post presidency. However, you know, when
you're doing charitable work and you're doing certain things. One
of the things that a lot of post or former
presidents did is that they honored the office from which

(51:15):
they held, and very rarely would they ever, and it
was an unspoken rule that you don't criticize the administration
after you. But it's amazing to me how all those
rules change when the Democrats are out of power and
Republicans are in power, because there was numerous times that

(51:36):
Jimmy Carter made statements regarding a Republican administration which I
thought was not characteristic of how somebody should be. Now again,
his post presidency was stellar, but I found it interesting
that even in Biden's remarks looking at the presidency of

(51:56):
Jimmy Carter actually talked about his foreign policy achievements. One
of them that he listed was returning Panama Canal.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
To the host nation.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Really, I think that was one of the worst decisions
that he ever made. We spent our capital, we spent
our bodies of our Americans down there, numerous people that
died building that canal. We made it a neutral site.
We made sure that it had access to all shipping.
So Panama gets control of the canal after being turned

(52:30):
over by Jimmy Carter signing the agreement to turn that over,
and now what we have is a Chinese companies on
both ends of the canal, controlling the passageways, controlling the
freight controlling the rates, and Trump has talked about if
those things don't change, if the rates don't come down
for American ships, he's going to take it back over.

(52:52):
And of course everybody's screaming and yelling about that, but
it should never have been turned over to them in
the first part, and that was one of the blotches
against him. The other thing I want to talk about
quickly is this Trump arrangement syndrome even extends to the
Carter death, where people are making comments about something along
the lines on Twitter and other accounts that Carter's last

(53:17):
act of his lifetime was to make sure that he
died so that the flags will be at half staff
coming into for the inauguration, that it will be a
symbol of the death of the Republican Party or a
symbol of the death of this country. Really, that's what

(53:39):
you're going to go with the fact that this will
take away from the splendor of having these flags at
half staff, and seeing that, I would take it.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
I would look that a different way.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
If you're going to go there, which is someplace which
you never should have gone in the first place.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
But if you're gonna go that.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
Route, if you're just gonna be mean and nasty just
for this sake of being mean and nasty. Well, I'll
take it a step further. What those flags at half
mast are going to symbolize is the death of the
Democratic Party, the death of the spoon fed regurgitators in
the mainstream media, the death of Hollywood, the death of

(54:17):
any possible influence that Obama should ever have in this country.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
How's that for you?

Speaker 1 (54:22):
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We go, Let's talk to Ken real quick, Ken fifty five?
Caresee how are you this morning? Happy New Year?

Speaker 8 (55:08):
Yes, good morning, Kevin, and happy New Year to you
and everyone else out there. And also condoles us to
the Carter family. But the main reason why I was calling, uh,
we you're one hundred percent right. We have to brand
them as they are election deniers. The list is long.
Kamala she started.

Speaker 9 (55:26):
Talking about fight, fight, fight, and she's coming out with
you know, these videos looks like she's still I guess
celebrating with bending her elbow.

Speaker 8 (55:36):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
Hillary, and he got questionable.

Speaker 8 (55:41):
Yeah, and then you got the infamous Al Gore. Still
he's an original election denier at least in my generation.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (55:50):
And Stacy Abrams and so the list goes on, and
they did not hold back trying to box Republicans and
politicians in and President Trump into asking them, well, will
you accept the election results? Now we've accepted, we've had
the election, and they're still continued continuing to fight, and

(56:10):
it's just is just really wrong. So we have to
let them know, just blame them, let them know who
they really are, and that's election deniers. Also, you've got
these democratic governors and mayors. Who are claiming that they're
going to stand up and fight. And I and I
heard it on when your Sisters station Will he said, hey,
these are like the new Confederates. You know, why are

(56:32):
they standing up saying we're not going to cooperate with
law enforcement? It makes no sense. Is that does not
bring our nation together?

Speaker 6 (56:41):
Well?

Speaker 1 (56:41):
And I think you have to question when you hear
that that they're not going to they're not going to
cooperation and cooperate with ICE or Homeland Security to get
rid of illegal aliens, and especially as they've laid out
that the most violent gambs among them, who in their

(57:02):
right mind want those people in their community, people that
are ignoring the laws. I mean, let's face it, the
people that are here illegally already committed a crime. Now
you know, that's a lesser crime obviously than setting somebody
on fire or murdering somebody or raping somebody. But there's

(57:23):
plenty of those that go around, and you get rid
of those first. You get rid of the gang members,
the people that have been here or that have gotten
here as the prisons and the mental institutions have been
closed in these other countries. You get rid of that first,
and to say that you're not going to cooperate with

(57:44):
any of this, you got to have your head examined.

Speaker 8 (57:48):
Well, I think it's illegal. I think it's against the law.
They take an oath to uphold the laws of the nation.
And just because they want to thumb their nose at
President Trump, that Trump hates syndrome is stronger than and
their love for their own fellow Americans and has just
gotten to that tipping point. And I think we need
to call it like it is. And uh, also, if

(58:11):
it comes out, what does it find out that maybe
Biden or some of his associates they are maybe getting
some remuneration for some of their commutations and pardons.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
You know, it wouldn't I wouldn't put it past them.
I wouldn't. You know, maybe Barry. You know, you go
through a whole list, the laundry list of one of
the pot partons that you're going to have, but among
those could be sprinkled a bunch of people that have
either contributed money or going to do a quid pro
quo or something. As long as as far as the

(58:43):
Bidens are concerned, that wouldn't surprise me at all. We
saw this at the tail end of the Clinton administration
when one of the big campaign contributors to him, and
I think I can't remember the one. I remember the
well the woman's uh is wife actually contributed money to
Clinton's and then her husband got exonerated or got a pardon,

(59:07):
and what was surprising. And you know, these pardons are
not supposed to be just done because it's a whim
there are the way it's supposed to work. From what
I understand is the Justice Department has these requests, they
go through them, they review them, see if they are worthwhile.
And generally, what somebody has done is they've served their sentence,

(59:30):
they've done better work, they've been model citizens in model
prisoners and then model citizens afterwards and have shown remorse.
But to just do a blanket pardon, and especially for
those thirty seven people that are on death row, that
to me is a slap in the face to the
American public. It's a slap in the face to the justices.

(59:54):
You know. In other words, apparently there are people that
are above the law.

Speaker 8 (01:00:01):
Apparently, yes, apparently it appears to be so without a doubt.
And finally, I did want to bring this up to
because you've got a guest coming up. You know, when
they talk about all the population and they talk about
climate change, and they always say, way, you know COEO
two is the cause of climate change. Well, science tells
me that we exhale COEO two. So when I hear

(01:00:22):
these global warmings people with their nonsense, what they're really
saying is that we've got too many people breathing.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
Well, if you look at Bill Gates and his ilk,
let's not forget that they are all population control people.
And it amazes me. And it's interesting that when you
look at the pandemic, the population control that that was
supposed to or that brought about. When you look about

(01:00:53):
all the policies that Bill Gates and his people are pushing,
that's population control. And I you know, when you get
right down to it, this whole environmental movement is nothing
to do with cleaning up the planet making things better
for the American people. It is all about control. We
see it in terms of what kind of car you're

(01:01:15):
going to drive, obviously the availability of how far you
can drive with that car if you've got an EV
because they certainly don't have the infrastructure. They want you
to dictate where you live, where you eat, or where
you live, what you live, where you live and what
you live in, how you heat your food, what food
you can eat, how you can eat, your home and everything.

(01:01:36):
It's all about control, and it has nothing to do
with cleaning the planet. It's all about control, and that
has more to do with communism, which again I think
that a lot of people on the left would prefer
that it has more to do with communism. That's why
I'm always mashed the two together. Environmentalism has become the
new communism. So I just call it climunism, and yeah, yeah, exactly.

(01:01:59):
And so for them to try to push these policies
through when the science doesn't dictate behind it, and when
we look at some of the actual climate scientists that
say there is no existential threat with climate change, that
climate change is a myth, all of a sudden, nobody
wants to talk about science. They only want to talk

(01:02:20):
about their science, not the actual science.

Speaker 8 (01:02:24):
Yes, sir, Well, God bless you, and God bless audience,
and have a healthy, prosperous new year.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
Same to you, my friend, Same to you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
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Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
Six forty three in the morning, Kevin Gordon and for
Brian Thomas, fifty five k R see the talk station. Yeah,
I find it interesting that as we're talking about the
Carter years and talking about the accomplishments. Yeah, there were
some accomplishments during his period of time. He did broke
of the piece or had the was a Camp David
Accords between Israel and Egypt, and it was one of

(01:03:24):
the It was the first Arab country to actually recognize
Israel's right to exist, which had not been done in
the Arab countries up to that point. There were significant
accomplishments there, but as far as economy, it was a

(01:03:45):
disaster when we had you know, remember back when I
keep going back through and I'm looking at different stories,
you remember he started having They weren't I forget what
they called him, but they were not the There were
the fireside type chats that trying to harken back to
the days of FDR and him sitting there at the

(01:04:08):
fireplace and in his cardigan sweater and talking about the
energy crisis that we had in this country. The fact
that you know, to do your part, that if we
had just turned our thermostats back during the day and
at night, we could save half the amount of the
amount of oil that we were short as far as

(01:04:30):
the incoming supplies. This was all during the gas crisis,
and the lines as far as gasoline lines at gas
stations and so on. But the tempt you know, when
we talk about lowering the temperature. You know, most people
they have their house I think probably around what seventy

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two degrees normally or seventy degrees, and people when they
talk about cutting back, they talk about, well, cut that
thermostat down to around sixty seven, maybe sixty eight somewhere
around there, and conserve energy. But during the Carter years,

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he was talking about lowering that thermostat during the day
down to sixty five and then at night down to
fifty five. You know what kind of a that talks
to me, And that speaks to me of a failure
of trying to institute and a sustainable energy policy instead

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of making sure that we have enough supplies for the
American people, in other words, making instead of making things
better for the American people, we should settle for something
less and that we should do our part to sacrifice
for the country. And because of his failed policies and

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the fact that we had rising inflation under his presidency,
the fact that we had the gas lines, the fact
that we had the general overall melees in terms of
it seemed like the American dream had failed, that the
American dream was not working, and that we had to
rebuild and to get a better attitude going forward. It

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struck me as failure, an admission of failure, this whole
idea that our best days are behind us, and I'm
not buying that. That's why in nineteen eighty during the election,
when Ronald Reagan came along, that the original hope and
change candidate, the candidate that was optimistic, that always looked

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for the brighter days of America and American prosperity, the
shining city on the hill. That's why he won in
a landslide election. Because people, the American people, want better,
They deserve better, They work hard to get better, and
they should be able to enjoy the fruits of their labor.

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Much the same mirror of the situation the way we've
seen it with the Biden administration over the last four years.
Talk about a comparison.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
And I tell you what.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
There is a picture that the Associated Press is running
out there that shows Jimmy Carter and Joe Biden together,
And if you want to look at the picture, it's
on one of the headlines on axios. And I'll tell you.
When you look back at Joe Biden in his days
in the Senate, and you look at the scowl, and

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you look at how he treated Clarence Thomas during the
head of the Judiciary Committee, this man has just got
the creepiest look on his face all the time. How
this guy ever got to a leadership position and ever
made his way to the presidency always will boggle my mind.

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This guy should have been stopped day one. This guy
should never have been re elected as Senator. And that
just shows you, at least in my mind, how off beat,
or how behind the curve or whatever the people of
Delaware that would keep returning this man to office. Phone
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Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
Are talking to me a little bit about Jimmy Carter
and the passing of Jimmy Carter. Of course the left
and Democrats are are singing his praises, and of course
a lot of people are doing their their normal tributes.
People are speaking fondly of him. But you know, I
I the passing of anybody that lives to be one
hundred is certainly remarkable, and the fact that there were

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certain accomplishments that he did do that that were good. Overall,
he seemed to be somewhat of a decent person, although
as I mentioned earlier, I don't know, somebody's legacy could
be very well if they're pro choice, So I would
that was to be a big mark against that person.

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No doubt about it that his presidency was marked as
being the worst presidency in history. Fortunately he lived long
enough to see the absolute worst presidency than his with
Joe Biden. So at least he goes out on a
high note. But I don't want to sugarcoat the Carter years.

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They were not good for the country. There were a
lot of mistakes made and kind of laid the groundwork
of some of the problems that we're facing today now.
The certain accomplishments that should be praised, but we should
have a realistic view of somebody, because I mean, at
least I'm not doing what the left does when somebody

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like Rush Limbaugh died or Ronald Reagan died. I mean,
they did everything but dance on the grave of those
people and talked about, you know, thank goodness they're dead,
Thank goodness that they're gone. We praise the fact. I'm
not going there. I'm just saying we need to take
a critical look and a realistic view of this Carter

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administration and his overall legacy, all the good as well
as the bad. Coming up top of the hour, we'll
take some of your phone calls, see what your opinion is.
Let me know what you feel about the Carter years
and what you remember about the Carter years. Five pet
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(01:11:16):
Happy Monday to you. We are talking about we have
been talking over the last hours, couple hours, talking about, well,
a little bit about the Bengals, talking a little bit
about their great victory on Saturday, talking about the presidency.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
Of Jimmy Carter.

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
And I'm I don't know, I think I've been somewhat kind.
What do you think out there talking about Producer I'm
getting a thumbs up from him. In terms of my
talking about Jimmy Carter. I think I've been pretty fair,
don't you think just a little bit? Yeah, pretty much.

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But you know, I'm not gonna just ignore all the
stuff that that that were bad during the Carter years.
I'm going to recognize the good. When anybody dies, that
is sad. I mean, because no matter what, somebody's losing
a parent, somebody's losing a family member, somebody's losing a friend,

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no matter what age they die. But this canonizing him
for santhood I think is a little over the top. However,
I mean, there were a lot of things that went
on during the Carter years that were not good. By
a lot of estimation, he was one of the worst
presidents we've ever had. Of course, now the current president,

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Joe Biden, has beat him as far as that's concerned,
so at least he gets to go out of this
world on a high note. But again, we're not going
to sugarcoat it. By the way, if you look at
my Facebook page, you'll know that I have a list
there of guess that we're going to have today, and
just run down that real quickly for you. Coming up
at seven twenty and we're going to be talking to

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Christopher's P. Smither Money is the former vice mayor of Cincinnati,
doing the Smither Vent. And then at seven or at
eight o'clock we're going to be talking about after the News.
Eight oh five, we're talking with Steven Moser. He is
president of the Population Research Institute. Their acronym is PRI.
We will discuss the myth of overpopulation, humor and rights

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abuses committed in population control programs, and the demonic nature
of the communist China, and of course PRI's pro life
goals for twenty twenty five. Looking forward to speaking with
him for sure. Now, as far as I did see that,
they did establish the date and time for the Bengals

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game against Pittsburgh. That's going to be at eight o'clock
eight pm on Saturday, So looking forward to that. Now,
as we've seen over the last couple of days, they've
been talking about watching some of these games of the
weekend and they start talking about, well, your next opponent
and what are you doing, and he said, well, you know,

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we don't know what date, we don't know what time.

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
They're moving the schedule around.

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
I guess to get as many eyes or to get
as many likes, or get the most people watching those
games for I guess the most revenue or the most
revenue that they can get for those games. So they're
changing the schedule around to accommodate different teams and to
try to get as many eyes on those for advertising revenue.

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So it'll be interesting to see that. But we do
know the Bengals will be on eight o'clock on Saturday,
so looking forward to that. It was a great game
of the weekend. I don't know if you watched it,
but it was very entertaining and a lot of very
in my opinion, let's just put it this way, it
was one of the best games that I've seen in

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a very, very long time.

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
So that's my two cents worth.

Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
We've been seeing, we've been talking about what is going
on as far as Trump derangement syndrome. We've been talking
a little bit about and we've been seeing a lot
of people on the left how they're going to try
to derail this administration, how they're going to try to
throw up roadblocks, and how they're going to try to
undermine this incoming administration. I think one of the worst

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things or one of the and I don't know why,
And it puzzles me to no end why anybody at
this point in time is even paying attention to anybody
in the spoon fed regurgitators in the mainstream media, as
I refer to them, because all they've done over the
last four years is lie to us. They talked about

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Trump being an existential threat to democracy, and that's just
not a term that's thrown out there. When you say
something as an existential threat, you mean that it is
a threat to the existence of whatever comes next. If
you're saying an existential threat to the world as far
as climate change is concerned, existential threat to democracy, you're

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talking about a threat to the existence of democracy. Now
you know Hitler Mussolini, two assassination attempts on him, and
yet they don't even tone down or dial down the rhetoric.
It's still that he's evil personified. They want to refer
to him as a felon, They were going to refer

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to him as a as a law breaker, as a rave,
all these kinds of things that they want to throw
at him. People have already made the decision on that.
People have heard all the crap that you've thrown out there,
and they still elected him overwhelmingly because they looked at
the alternative. They looked at their wallets, they looked at
their four oh one case, they looked at now again,

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the market has been good, but the downside of that
has been a horrible economy, high inflation, people can't afford homes,
people living paycheck to paycheck, and people said enough is enough,
we need to go in a different direction. And yet
the people on the left are going to continue to
attack after they've told us for four years Joe Scarborough

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and the like that this version of Biden is the
best that's ever been. He runs rings around everybody, anybody
associated with his administration, anybody that has reported on his administration,
anybody that interviewed him and didn't out him, the members
of his own cabinet that didn't put forth the twenty
fifth Amendment and get him out of office because of

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his diminished capacity. None of these people should be anywhere
in the position of power. Why Jensaki still has a
show on what is an MSNBC, John Kareeine Jean Pierre
should never be anywhere near a government position ever. Again,
all of these newscasters that lied about his condition and

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lied to the American people about that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
And then.

Speaker 1 (01:17:56):
What we need to look at is what has what
has he done, and what has he What commutations has
he done, What executive orders has he done? Anything that
he has done as far as any mandates, those should
all be reversed immediately, because in a diminished capacity, even
the commutation of sentences, all those commutations of the thirty

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seven people on death row, all the different pardons, was
it thirteen hundred or so pardons that he let out
or gave out a few weeks ago. I think Hunter
and Biden's pardons should be looked at as well. How
do you how do you take a person and say

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we're going to issue a blanket of pardon going back
eleven years without knowing what the heck you know crimes
have been committed. If the crimes were committed, then how
do you how do you pass on that? How do
you look at that and say, well, no matter what
he has done, we are not going to prosecute him.

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That is crazy, And so again it's something that needs
to be looked at. I've heard people, I've heard some
legal people that supposedly know what they're talking about, saying
that until you have a competency hearing, until you realize
or make the determination that somebody is not competent, you
can't you know, like you know, as we see in

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some of these cases where you challenge a will, where
you challenge somebody's mental capacity in terms of their last
will and testament, that where those have been contested because
they are of diminished capacity, Well, the same thing would
be true here. And unless you do a thorough examination
of Biden and then look at that in terms of

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the progression of the disease apparently that he may have
in terms of dementia, how far back that extends, and
look at what he's done up to that point. I
think that all needs to be looked at, and anything
that he did that he was of mental capacity diminishmental
capacity should be an all and void. You would do
that for a family member, You would do that in

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any business, You do that in any type of situation.
But somehow, as president, you get a pass on that.
I'm sorry, I don't buy that, and I think it's
and let him, let him take it to court. And
any of these people that he pardons, any of these
people that he's done or has pardoned, I think should

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be looked at and the facts for that, because the
Justice Department is supposed to do certain things as far
as recommendations, and they're supposed to look at these and
make sure and recommend them to the president. He just
doesn't pick a number, a name out of a hat,
any name and just does blanket.

Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
Pardons.

Speaker 1 (01:20:48):
That just is not done. So this all needs to
be looked at. Coming up, we're gonna be talking at
Christopher Smithman at seven twenty. So we'll let we'll take
a we'll take a break here and then come back
with Christopher Smithman. I'm Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas
fifty five krs the Talk Station seven twenty in the morning.

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Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas.

Speaker 2 (01:21:21):
Fifty five krs The Talton Day.

Speaker 1 (01:21:23):
What an appropriate song? No, Yes, absolutely, I will not
back down. As you know, I have an opinion. I'm
not afraid to use it. And when I see him,
I call him like I see him.

Speaker 2 (01:21:34):
And that's just though how I.

Speaker 1 (01:21:35):
Flow looking at h Well, probably I'm going to go
down this list and at some point in time and
talk about all the all the frauds that there are
in Hollywood.

Speaker 2 (01:21:47):
I want to compare and contrast. Probably might don't throw off.

Speaker 1 (01:21:51):
I'll do it today, but maybe tomorrow we'll do this
compare and contrasting of the list of people back in
twenty sixteen that said that if Trump was elected president
that they're going to move out of the country, and
I'm not sure that any one of them actually ever did.
Then in twenty twenty four now there's a whole new

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list of people that have said that they're going to
leave the country because Trump got elected president, and it's
going to be interesting to see how many are on
the list. And it's like, how can you leave when
you said you were going to leave before? So it's
all a fraud. The people in Hollywood are not to
be taken seriously. And I don't know why anybody's paying
attention to any of the spoon fed regurgitators in the

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mainstream media. And we got Christopher smither in here. Christopher,
welcome to the program. Happy New Year, and how you been.

Speaker 8 (01:22:45):
I'm doing good.

Speaker 10 (01:22:46):
And I hope you had to marry Christmasson and I
hope you have a happy New Year.

Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
I did.

Speaker 10 (01:22:52):
Let's just stay with your stay with your theme, brother.
I mean, people want to leave the greatest country in
the world, right is where this is. Everybody's trying to
get in. Yeah, and you have people on the West
Coast saying they want to leave. Let's give them a
one way ticket. Let's get a go fund me if
they need.

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
One, you bet and ship them out exactly.

Speaker 10 (01:23:12):
Now. The deal has to be Kevin, is they can't
come back? Yes, okay, So it's not like you go
and then you come back. No, you are gone for
the rest of your life. You give up your passport,
you give up your citizenship and we don't want you
to come back. It's a one way ticket.

Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
Yeah, And it's it's as if people forget or they
ask the question, or are not asked the question, Where
would you go where it's any better?

Speaker 2 (01:23:42):
Where? Where do you want to go to?

Speaker 1 (01:23:44):
Europe where they're looking at their jumping full both feed
in with this green energy technology and you're going to
be freezing during the winter because you don't have enough
electricity keep the lights on. You're going to go to
a count country like England who is seeing a record
inflation there. They don't have their act together, European Union, Where.

Speaker 2 (01:24:08):
Are you going to go? Just amazing, amazing.

Speaker 10 (01:24:13):
It's this notion and this is why you know this year,
you know when you heard so many people out there
saying they don't like our country, they don't like our flag,
They don't want to say the pleasure legiance, they don't
want to stand and cover their heart when the when
the national anthem is being sung. They want to take
a knee for the flag. While we've got people on

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the front lines protecting our democracies all over the world,
right and those soldiers are coming back who are now
veterans and you got people saying they don't love our country.
This year was so bizarre. The other thing, Kevin in this,
in my my vent to you, is it was a
year to divide the black brothers from their white brothers.

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And so this notion of it, I'm going to to
be divisive, and I'm going to make sure I look
at you with a slanted eye. There has to be
something nefarious about you because of your race, undermining us
as Americans. This year was all about that, and ultimately
it failed on November the sixth, where Americans said, you
know what, I reject those narratives. I love my country, right,

(01:25:21):
I don't want to defund the police department. And my
neighbor who happens to be African American isn't my enemy.
And my neighbor who happens to be white isn't my enemy.
That was all baked into the November election, and Americans
rejected the narrative, most from the Democratic Party.

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
Well, you know, Christopher Smeatherman, my guests, the I believe
that this actually this goes back to the Obama administration.
I believe that during his presidency, you look at the
situation of potential transformational figure somebody who is of mixed
race is elected president and over well enough to get elected,

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I'm not well, it was kind of that was a
pretty one sided election.

Speaker 2 (01:26:06):
McCain really didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:26:08):
I mean it was anyway, whatever the numbers were, all right,
now here is an opportunity to bring the races together.
Here is a way of saying that, no, we don't
have a racist country. After all, I got elected. Here
is what I'm going to try to do to bring
this country together. But instead it was this constant divide
any type of talking about that what was the Trayvon

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Martin could have been my son talking about having the
beer summit. Because that Lewis Gates or whatever his name is,
that at Harvard or University was approached by a police
officer and ask if he belonged in the neighborhood there,

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Lewis Gates Junior. Now that was all divisive. This was
stuff that he did, his going around the world apologizing
for America and dividing one group against the other. And
I think it started with him and it just progressed on.
And you're right, this business of you know, going back
to the twenty twenty election, you know, if you don't

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vote for me. You ain't black the whole nine yards this.
You know, how do you ruin a country, Christopher? You
divide individual groups off, you take away the unity, and
you divide them off, and you tear them apart individually
down to the core, and then by the time you
get around everybody, there's nobody left.

Speaker 10 (01:27:36):
Well I can I can share with you, Kevin. I
don't think our country was divided by any one president.
There's been a lot of them. One died. My condolences
for the president who died, Carter yesterday, and we can
talk about Lyndon Johnson, we can talk about any of
those presidents that have come prior before. But at the

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end of the day, over the last four years, President
Biden was the president, and he ran on this notion
that you and I are different in some kind of way,
based on in my opinion, based on our race. And
I think you made the comment if you're not black,
if you if you don't vote for me, those kinds

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of things didn't help, and it didn't help the Vice
President Harris at all in her bid for reelection. People
are just tired of it. They want people to get
up every day, go to work, handle your business, you know,
if you're talking about I want to go to school,
go to school, handle your business, whether you're in the
first grade or kindergarten, or whether you're a college student.

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If this is about work, this is about success in
your merit. That's what this country is built on. And
so at the end of the day, which was so
interesting going into November sixth, even after the rejection, if
you listen to mainstream media, Kevin, they still haven't gotten
the lesson. They're still out here doing the exact same

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thing they did before the election. And so I'm sitting
there going can you all learn anything from what just happened.
It's been a it's been a very interesting listen. And
I've been watching CNN, I've been watching MSNBC. I've been
trying to wait to see have they heard from the
American people and any of those people who've been watching it,

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who are who are who are viewing the lens to
maybe where you and I are seeing it. They haven't
learned their lesson. There's still talking to continue the same narrative.

Speaker 1 (01:29:31):
Yeah, they're talking the same narrative that they've been talking
for the last four years and up to and through
the election, and why any And well, you see it
in the ratings. You see it that that their ratings
are plumbing, and that's an indication that people have turned
them off. And I maintained that the only reason that
they're getting any airtime at all is because some of

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the conservative outlets like Fox News will show clips of them,
and there's more eyes look at those clips than when
the actual clip occurred on that individual show on that network.
And Christopher Smitherman, you know the deal here. We got
to take a break real quick, Bob in the hour,
and when we come back, we'll pick this all up.
My guest Christopher Smitherman for Cincinnati Vice Mayor and of

(01:30:15):
course just all around great guy and will continue with
the smither Vent. I'm Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas,
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Speaker 1 (01:30:53):
Smither Vent, thanks for spending time with us, and hope
you're Christmas and your New Year's shaping up there. Christopher,
thanks for being with us this morning.

Speaker 10 (01:31:04):
Oh thank you brother. You know my heart goes out Kevin,
to those who lost their lives in the Korean crash,
you know, and one hundred and eighty people or one
hundred and seventy nine people lost their lives. So I'm
certainly watching that like you're watching it. But it also
gives me an opportunity to highlight the aviation excellence in

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the United States of America. I mean, we have failures
when you know, you have this many planes that are
up in the air, whether it's an Airbus plane, whether
it's a Boeing plane. We have some of the best
pilots in the world, and they land planes under for
terrible conditions every day and every week and every month.

(01:31:49):
I don't know what happened in the air. There's you know,
there's some talk that there was a bird strike that
hid an engine. I'm sure we'll find out what happened there.
But I can tell you again, every time I look
at that, we haven't had one of these types of
maybe in the in the United States of America in

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a long time, and it's because it's because of the
training of our pilots, and we have a serious emphasis
on safety here. We don't you know, I'm not saying
we don't have twenty year old planes flying in the air,
but the reality of it is we have the best
aviation in the world. And again it comes back to
where we started. Why would anybody say they want to

(01:32:34):
leave the United States of America when so many people
are trying to get in, Kevin, and so my heart
goes out to those families.

Speaker 1 (01:32:42):
I went over the weekend we had that one in Azurebrai, John,
and the other one they're going into you just mentioned it.
I've drawn them blank here real quick.

Speaker 10 (01:32:55):
Of Korea.

Speaker 1 (01:32:56):
Korea, Yeah, the South Korean Airline. And in both of
those there were malfunctions or it appeared as though that
the plane was well. The one was coming in pretty
heavy and then it seemed like it was going to
skid around, but then it went behind the hangar and.

Speaker 2 (01:33:13):
You saw this fireball.

Speaker 1 (01:33:15):
So it's interesting that two of those came about on
the same weekend or near the same weekend, and it
just I hope what happens is that people double down
on their maintenance and review and making sure that everything
that goes into the air is safe and nothing gets

(01:33:36):
left you know, oh like oh that's just a button,
that's just a light that's out on the dashboard. That's
usually nothing. No, you take everything seriously and especially and
it commend the people that fly these planes. And look
at the number of flights per day that go in
and out at different airports across this country, and it

(01:33:57):
is absolutely amazing the safety record.

Speaker 10 (01:34:00):
Absolutely And let me also say to you, Kevin, as
we look into next week and we hear we hear
the Republican drum beat of whether they are going to
not vote for Speaker Johnson, this is a colossal mistake
in my opinion. If they've already been through this, it

(01:34:23):
didn't turn out well. It looks like they're going to
start off with more chaos, which isn't going to turn
out well. They need to certify the election and move forward.
And so this notion that you know that that Speaker
Johnson can only lose one person and then that's going
to turn you know, the entire Congress on its head,

(01:34:45):
is just crazy. And I just don't know why at times,
the Republican Party continues to put these types of self
inflicted wounds on themselves, right, like everything isn't going to
be perfect, You're never you're gonna always get your way,
and it just seems like there are these tipper tantrums
that happen there to say, boom, here we are, let's

(01:35:08):
cast a vote, let's move forward as a team. Maybe
you don't like everything Johnson does, maybe you love everything
he does, but at the end of the day, it's
not about you. It's about the country. And I'm just
telling you, the last time they went through this, it
just looked horrible, the McCarthy thing to Johnson, And now
who else are they going to? Who else wants to
serve as the speaker? It seems like a really a

(01:35:29):
job that nobody really wants, very thankfus job. But at
the end of the day, if he wants the job,
why not let him stay in the job. And why
have some national fight for us all to watch starting
next Friday. This doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 1 (01:35:41):
And with that thin majority, we're only going to have
a one seat majority because of the people that are
either out of the Congress or people that are sick
or people that have taken jobs in the administration. This
is something where you know, it's going to be very
delicate to be able to get the numbers to pass anything.
And at this point, I would say to some of

(01:36:04):
the people that you know, as you were kind of
alluding to, is put your personal preferences to the side
for a moment for the good of the country. You
may think that your policies, that your procedures, that you
are doing what's right for the American public, but in
the long run, it's only going to hurt if you

(01:36:25):
don't get the agenda done. If you don't you know,
it's like you go back to the Revolutionary War. Decoration
of Independence was absolutely meaningless if we didn't win, and
so in order to have that document mean something, you
had to win. Well, we've won. So let's make sure

(01:36:47):
that we advance forward and put forth the agenda that
the American people wanted. And you know, we've got to
take a break, real quick break. Here a Christopher, my guess,
Christopher Smitherman during the smither event here on fifty five
K see the talks.

Speaker 3 (01:37:00):
This is fifty five KARC and iHeartRadio station.

Speaker 1 (01:37:14):
Seven in the morning, Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas
fifty five krs the talk station, continuing our conversation with
former Cincinnati Vice mayor and Christopher Smitherman during our smither
Vent on Monday mornings. Thanks for hanging with us to
the break. Christopher certainly appreciate it.

Speaker 10 (01:37:30):
Oh brother, thank you for having me. As we go
into the new years. I tell you, it's been interesting
watching what happened what's been happening with crime in New York.
Just like we've seen crime in Cincinnati, or we've seen
crime in Chicago, or we've seen crime in LA But
New York is hosting the Big ball drop and now
they've decided to clean up Times Square. Always interesting how

(01:37:54):
they roll out their politics. Let's make sure the homeless
people are here for the guests to see who are
coming in the Times Square. Let's make sure that there
isn't any crime around in this area. So we're going
to bring in all the police. We're going to secure
the area, but not for the people that live there
day to day, just for the guests from from yesterday,
from tomorrow into the next day. This is this is

(01:38:16):
the insanity of elected officials, right when you know their heads,
their policies are not screwed on right, and so it's
very frustrating because we just came out of watching Penny,
who was crucified for standing up for citizens black who
were white, who were Latino. Matter of fact, when we
highlight when Penny was holding the gentleman down, there was

(01:38:39):
a black man holding him down to and it looked
like somebody who might have been Latino. So this was
this was a This was a group of people there
who were trying to protect the people on the train.
Two weeks later, thank god, they found him innocent. You
have a man who sets a woman on fire while
she's sleeping on the train, and now they're talking about

(01:39:01):
possibly the death sentence for him. The Guardian Angels have
now said they're going down in the subways to protect
I just started was interesting, Kevin that that New York
is now saying we're bringing out the police to secure
Times Square, which starts with moving out the homeless and
making sure the crime element is not there for the

(01:39:22):
guests who are coming in and standing in line starting today.

Speaker 1 (01:39:25):
Well, if you move the criminal element out, then you
can claim that there is no crime you see, rather
than reporting on the crime that exists if you kind
of push it away, if you do away with the
homeless encampments, and then you can say, well, see where
are the homeless encampments. You know, you don't see those now,
So maybe all the reports before have been false, and

(01:39:49):
it's just this this It's like the Potempkin village type
of thing, where you put up this facade so that
when the bizarre the dictator comes driving through, everything looks clean,
everything looks wonderful, and then behind the facade is all
the filth, the rout, the decay, that everything that is bad.

(01:40:10):
And yet you're putting on this, You're shining this thing
up just for appearances purposes. And I agree with you
that this. You know, if they can do it for
the ball drop, why not do it all year?

Speaker 10 (01:40:21):
Loan, And I think that the citizens of New York
are going to have to sort it out. It's not
a place that, you know, I'm really interested in living
for a number of reasons. But the people that live there,
I wish them the best of luck. But they can
see how their government is responding to them. And I

(01:40:41):
think people see this when the Olympics are coming to
their community. You see the same kind of behavior from
the politicians. We've got a whole them. Accountable crime has
to be the number one issue. Keeping citizens faith as
we go into the new year has to be the
number one thing. This whole notion of defunding our police
has really just hit, you know, different cities across the

(01:41:05):
country with politicians saying they wanted to defund the police department,
and that played out in the election that we just
got out of. But at the end of the day,
let me end on just a loving note and talk
to you about President Carter and not talk about the
four years that he served, but the ninety six years
that he lived. And this was a man I think

(01:41:27):
that I respected because of his faith, his faith in God.
We've lost that in our country where so many people
are agnostic or atheists or don't have a belief in God.
I believe in God. I'm Catholic, a Catholic family, and
so I respected President Carter and his wife for their faith.

(01:41:47):
Number two married seventy seven years. There are people that
can't stay married six months, let alone seventy seven years.
And so they were a beacon of a couple who said,
we got married, we respect our vows in sickness and
in health, and they stayed together for seventy seven years,
and people should recognize that kind of respect for the

(01:42:10):
institution of marriage, which I respect. And the last thing
I'll say is his humanitarian efforts, his desire to roll
up his sleeves God every day, build houses, invest in
the areas that he believed in that would make our
society better. So I tip my hat to the Carter
family and his children, and to him and his lovely wife.

(01:42:35):
I tipped my hat to them in their wonderful marriage
that they showed and reflected in everything that they did.

Speaker 1 (01:42:41):
Kevin, Yeah, Now again I would agree with you as
far as you know. You look at him post presidency
and you look at all the good that he did
and the humanitarian efforts that he did, and I would
applaud that, and I certainly agree with that. But you
know we don't there there aren't. He wasn't a saint.

(01:43:02):
I applaud as you say, his his marriage, his commitment
to his family, and his humanitarian But again, as a
as a Catholic, I still want when I look at
certain politicians, I can't get over the pro choice issue.
As far as some of these politicians are concerned, especially

(01:43:22):
people who try who profess to be men and people
of faith, that the two just don't combine as far
as I'm concerned.

Speaker 10 (01:43:32):
Well, we agree, We agree that he was definitely not perfect, right,
and I don't I don't share his position on abortion
at all, nor did I share President Biden's position on abortion.
But I wanted to just take a moment to salute,
you know, a president who lived to be one hundred

(01:43:54):
and I and I don't want to he was the
president for four years ago. I don't want to define
him just that, because there were ninety six other years
and I just wanted to read exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:44:04):
And I agree with that. I agree with that wholeheartedly.

Speaker 1 (01:44:07):
And I am not going to be and and I
rail against some of these people that would get on
like you see from the left when a conservative passes.
It's almost like they want to dance on the grave.
They want to throw a party in a celebration and
talk about how glad they are the person died.

Speaker 2 (01:44:28):
That to me is the height of evil.

Speaker 10 (01:44:31):
And so and it's not who we are. Kevin is
not who we are as people. You know, if I
suggest to you that if the vice president Kamala Harris
had won, there would have been no discussions about any
riots in any streets anywhere. No one would have been
setting anything on fire or try to attempt to stop

(01:44:53):
the election or not count votes or any of that
kind of stuff. And so this is about as we
go into the new year, I hope it's about rule
of law. I'm really excited about the exploration of oil
and resources in our country that will make us less dependent,
which I think is a national security issue. I think
it's at the top of the list. You know, I'm

(01:45:14):
looking forward to the ending of wars. You know, I
have a son who's who spent four years, just got
back this year. He resigned with the uh with the
Air National Guard, and so you know, all of these
things mean a lot to our family because he could
be sent somewhere on the front line. He could be
called up, and that's very, very real. So I like

(01:45:37):
a president who really takes ending wars seriously when you
have so much on the line, like our family does,
and so many other families that are listening to us,
listening to us, and thank anybody, any veteran out there,
We thank you for your service. And I'm going to
really appreciate an emphasis on our veterans over the next
four years. They need support, they deserve support. Can They've

(01:46:00):
given so much to our country and many of the
people out there that are homeless, many of them and
too many of them are our veterans, and we need
to deliver the services to them. And it shouldn't be
a punch vine. Absolutely that this new administration will take
it serious.

Speaker 1 (01:46:15):
Absolutely, Christopher, I certainly appreciate your time this morning, and
I'll always fascinated and we talk to you and look
forward to the next time we can talk.

Speaker 2 (01:46:22):
Mappy New Year to you too.

Speaker 1 (01:46:23):
Christopher Smitherman, former vice mayor and just an all around
nice guy and just love hearing his smither vent and
the politics that he talks about and the issues that
he brings up. I'm Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas
fifty five KR see the talk station.

Speaker 11 (01:46:40):
Fifty five KRC dot com.

Speaker 6 (01:46:42):
The holidays are a blast.

Speaker 1 (01:46:43):
For the seven four Kevin Gordon and for Brian Thomas
fifty five KR see the talk station. Well, we just
basically have enough time to introduce or talk about our
coming up guests. At the top of the hour, we're
going to be talking to Stephen Moser. If you've gone
to my Facebook page, you'll know that I post that

(01:47:06):
and who my guess is going to be. He is
the president Population Research Institute. We'll be discussing the myths
of the overpopulation, human rights abuses committed by in the
name of population control, and we're going to be talking
about the demonic nature of the Communist Party in China
and much much more. So stay tuned for that. I'm

(01:47:29):
looking forward to talking to him and of course his
organization's efforts or their goals on pro life issues going
into twenty twenty five. I'm Kevin Gordon in for Brian
Thomas fifty five KRCD talk station five minutes after eight o'clock.

(01:47:54):
My guest is Stephen Moser. He is the president of
Population Research Institute. This is an amazing organization that I
came to find out when I attended the September fifteenth
Northern Kentucky Right to Life banquet talking about the issues
of right to life and Stephen was the guest speaker.

(01:48:16):
Population Research Institute's a nonprofit research group. Goals are to
expose the myth of overpopulation, expose human rights abuses committed
in population control programs make the case for people are
the world's greatest resources. Stephen, welcome to the program.

Speaker 5 (01:48:35):
It's good to be with you this morning.

Speaker 2 (01:48:37):
It's my pleasure.

Speaker 1 (01:48:39):
You have a very interesting background as to how you
arrived here, and nobody tells their story better than the
person themselves, So tell people a little bit about your background.

Speaker 5 (01:48:51):
Well, I was first American social science that allowed in
the communist China, way way back in nineteen seventy nine,
when President Jimmy Carter, who just passed away today, normalized
relations with the People's Republic of China. China had been
hidden behind the Bamboo Curtain for about thirty years, and
there I was boots on the ground in early nineteen

(01:49:15):
seventy nine trying to find out what the communists had
done over the last thirty years to the Chinese people.
And you know, it wasn't a very pretty story. There
were persecutions and purges and the Cultural Revolution. But the
one thing that happened when I was in China was
China's longest running political campaign. It was called the One

(01:49:38):
Child policy, where everybody in China was restricted to one child,
and God helped those women who were pregnant with a
second or a third child because they were arrested for
the crime of being pregnant, the crime of getting pregnant
without government permission. It was a crime in China in
those days. It continued to be a crime in China
until just a few years ago. So I was an

(01:50:00):
eyewitness to women being forcibly aborted and forcibly sterilized under
the one child policy. And you know, the total human
cost of that program was four hundred million lives were
lost in China from nineteen seventy nine, nineteen eighty to
twenty sixteen to the one child policy. That's about half

(01:50:23):
of the last two generations. And they're paying a heavy
price for that today.

Speaker 1 (01:50:27):
Yeah, because once you do away with a certain segment
of the population. Let's concentrate on that number, four hundred
million souls killed as a result of this one child policy.
But you take that number out and then from there
you don't have that number of kids producing other children.

(01:50:47):
You don't replace the population that you have, and you
start going into actually a population decline which is almost
impossible to pull out at times.

Speaker 5 (01:50:59):
Oh yeah, and that's where Chinese today. China has actually
been in population declined for the last five years. They
just admitted this year that their population was beginning to shrink.
But it's actually you know, the Chinese Communist Party rarely
tells the truth about anything, and they've been lying about
their population numbers for years too. The average Chinese woman
today gives birth only about one child. That's a recipe

(01:51:22):
for demographic disaster, which is quickly coming upon the Chinese people.
The Chinese population is aging and dying. You've got well,
the result of the one child policy was you have
four grandparents who have two children together and only one grandchild.
So you've shorn away all the branches of the family tree,

(01:51:44):
leaving only the trunk. And I'll tell you what. These
only children, second generation only children are not interested in
getting married, not interested in starting families or having children
of their own, because they've been told that children are burdened,
not a blessing. They've been told that you can't get
ahead in live. You know, the most important things are
buying a car, not having a child or two. So

(01:52:08):
China is in absolute population decline. China is now no
longer the most populous country in the world. It was
the most populous country in the world for thousands of
years and now India has overtaken it. I think that
that's what you should write as the epitaph on the
gravestone of the Chinese Communist Party is we killed off
China's future, because that's.

Speaker 1 (01:52:29):
What they did, literally absolutely, and you know, as almost
the reverse pyramid scheme, this is almostly flip of that.
You've got, you know, very little coming up through the pipeline,
and you're gonna wind up with nothing there. And I
think possibly, you know, when you look at I guess
maybe some foreign influence, Western influence in communist China that

(01:52:53):
they see how bad things are there and think, well, gee,
I'm not going to bring another child into this world.
The future is bright, and as you said, children are
a burden to them and so they're not repopulating and
a society can't continue that way.

Speaker 5 (01:53:13):
No, no, And you know what the China dream of
Sijing Ping and the Chinese Communist Party was that in
this century, the twenty first century, that China was going
to come to dominate the world. And you know what,
the Chinese Communist Party has killed the China dream by
killing off half of the last two generations of Chinese.

(01:53:33):
And of course you add to that not just the
population decline, not just the aging and dying of the population.
You add to that the massive corruption of the Chinese
Communist Party. You add to that the fact that Shijing Ping,
as he gets older, is becoming an erratic megalomaniac, who
is cashiering, who is purging, who is arresting, imprisoning people

(01:53:54):
who are once close to him, and behaving radically. You know,
that's not a recipe for success. That's a recipe for failure.

Speaker 2 (01:54:01):
Failure.

Speaker 5 (01:54:02):
This century will not belong to China. It may very
well belong to the United States, which as an American
I'm happy to contemplate.

Speaker 1 (01:54:11):
Yeah, and it means that somebody that is of a
strong will and somebody that can stand up to, as
one of your books points out, the bully of Asia,
to back them down from their expansionist ideas. And as
they try this expansionism, if they just get away with it,
they're going to get You know, people just stand by.

(01:54:33):
But if you put your foot down and say this
ain't going to happen, especially on my watch, you can
put an end to this.

Speaker 5 (01:54:39):
Yeah, aggressors are always encouraged when their aggression is successful.
They take a bite here and a bite there, and
if they don't get pushback, they'll keep, you know, devouring
more and more territory. I think we have an administration
coming in which earlier during Trump's first term, set China
back on its heels, and this time they'll do the same.

(01:55:00):
Because you have peace through strength, you don't have peace
through weakness, uh, weakness and byteses aggression. So I think
that China's very worried now. I recently heard Chinese senior
officials saying that they don't have many channels into the
new administration. And I'm laughing to myself as the China expert,
thinking channels, you mean, like, you know, the Secretary of

(01:55:22):
Saint Anthony Blincoln, who was on the payroll of the
University of Pennsylvania's uh you know uh center, which was
funded by the Chinese Communist Party. You mean that kind
of connection. Yeah, they don't have those kinds of connections
with the Trump administrat don't have any.

Speaker 1 (01:55:37):
Well, they call them the Confucius Institutes of every one
of a lot of these different universities.

Speaker 5 (01:55:44):
China is going around the world setting up Confucius Institutes,
which basically are propaganda centers on campuses all around the world. Now,
we had about one hundred of them in the United
States because well, a few years ago I testified before
the US Congress we call we shone a light on
the fact that they were going into campuses all across

(01:56:05):
the United States, offering the campus president a million dollars
to set up a Confucius institute. They were welcome. Now,
of course we're kicking them off American campuses, but they're in.

Speaker 8 (01:56:16):
They're in.

Speaker 5 (01:56:16):
They're in places all around the world. This is part
of their what's called the United Front operation of the
Chinese Communist Party, where they're trying to win friends and
influence people around the around the globe, and and you know,
they they were very successful. For a long long time.
They had people like Tim Walls, the vice presidential nominee,

(01:56:38):
taking groups of students to China, high school students to
China uh on guided tours to tell them how wonderful
communism was and how successful it had been in improving
the lives of the Chinese people. All fabrications, all lives,
of course, but if you're a young, impressionable high school
or college student, you tend to believe those things.

Speaker 1 (01:56:58):
Well, you have that we're taking you there and putting
his stamp of approval on it. That goes a long
way to form an impression in your mind.

Speaker 5 (01:57:09):
Absolutely, this was their teacher, and their teacher was teaching
them that communism was wonderful. It had worked in China.
It hadn't worked in China. We talked about the death
poll already, and add to that four hundred million unborn
and newborn children who were killed. Add to that the
forty five million people who died in the famine in
nineteen sixty nineteen sixty one, Add to that the ten

(01:57:30):
million people killed in the Land Reform, the millions who
died in the Cultural Revolution, and you've got a death
hole of about five hundred million people. So the Chinese
Communist Party does win a prize for being the biggest
killing machine in human history. They have killed up more
people than any political organization in human history, more than Stalin,

(01:57:51):
more than Hitler, more than any other dougish, brute google
dictator you can think of.

Speaker 1 (01:57:56):
And the thing that boggles my mind is that when
they talk about China, they continue to talk about them
as a developing country, open to trade deals, open to
all kinds of functions and breaks from the UN and
it just here you have a country that's got the nukes.

(01:58:17):
They have this navy that they're building up, and they're
developing country.

Speaker 2 (01:58:23):
Give me a break.

Speaker 5 (01:58:26):
China now has the biggest navy in the world, not
by tonies, but by number of ships. They have a
shi building capability that is two hundred and fifty times
the size of ours. That is, they can build two
hundred and fifty ships in the time it takes us
to build one. Because most of our shipbuilding facilities have
closed down. They now have closing in on a thousand nukes.

(01:58:48):
They'll have a thousand nuclear weapons in a couple of
years and the means to deliver them all around the world.
So this is not a developing country anymore. They pretend
to be a developing so they can get breaks on trade.
But I think those the days of that gravy train
are over now. On January twentieth, we're going to see
I think tariffs imposed on Chinese goods, which people need

(01:59:11):
to understand, are made by slave labor, are made by serfs,
are made by Chinese workers who can't strike for higher wages.
They can't organize labor unions, they can't even engage in
a worker slowed down on the assembly line or what
or the police are called out and the unrest, the demonstration,
the strike for higher wages is put down. So these

(01:59:33):
people are not free workers. And it's unfair to make
American workers compete with slaves and serfs.

Speaker 1 (01:59:40):
Absolutely, And of course Chinese economy is not doing very
well itself because of the restrictions that they had during
the as I call it the plandemic, and the draconian
restrictions that they had, and now they're trying to build
up their economy and they're having some serious problems.

Speaker 2 (01:59:58):
My guess is even Moser.

Speaker 1 (01:59:59):
And we're going to step out for a quick break,
and when we come back, I want to continue the
conversation but also get into the efforts of PRI the
Population Research Institute, and talk about your efforts having to
do with the pro life movement. I am Kevin Gordon
in for Brian Thomas, fifty five krs.

Speaker 11 (02:00:17):
The Talk Station, fifty five KRC twenty one in the morning.

Speaker 1 (02:00:28):
Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas, fifty five krs the
Talk Station. Continue our conversation with Steven Moser. He is
president of Population Research Institute. We've been talking about his
knowledge and firsthand knowledge of communist China, their one child
policy and what was going on in that country, and

(02:00:49):
as far as his movement in terms of pro life agenda.
And before we get into your background and how you
arrived at being pro life, by the way, thank you
for being with us and hanging with us through the break.
What do you think is the attraction of communism to
so many liberals?

Speaker 2 (02:01:10):
What is well?

Speaker 5 (02:01:11):
Communism is supposedly makes life easy. I mean, the government
is going to do everything for you. All of your
needs will be supplied. You want to worry about food
or housing, you want to worry about medical care, you
won't have to worry about anything, because the government will
give everything according to their need. And everyone, of course
is supposed to respond by saying, well, we're going to
give everything we can to the government according to our ability.

(02:01:34):
Except that's not the way human nature works.

Speaker 10 (02:01:36):
Is it.

Speaker 2 (02:01:37):
No?

Speaker 5 (02:01:37):
And in China, when I was in China living in
a Chinese commune, people used to say, no, they had
little private gardens, and then they had the big communal
fields where everybody worked in common all day long, and
then they had their little private gardens where they worked
in the evening, and they told me that people were
as lazy as worms in the communal fields and as

(02:01:58):
active as dragon in their private gardens. In other words,
they did as little as possible in the communal fields
during the day to save their energy so they can
work on their private garden plots at night. And I
think that sums up the whole failure of communism, because
those people who are lazy will take advantage of the system.
The rest of the people who are trying to work

(02:02:20):
and make it work will soon find out that they're
being taken for a ride, and the whole system gradually
grinds to a halt, and everyone lives in abject property,
except for the Communist Party officials in charge, who live
a life of luxury. And you know that's the case
in China today. You've got the Chinese Communist Party ninety

(02:02:40):
two million members strong, controlling almost all the wealth of China.
The Chinese Communist Party consumes probably at least a third
of the wealth of China produced by the one billion
Chinese people in their junket, in their foreign junkets and
their banquets, and their gardens in their pavilions, you know,

(02:03:00):
in their resorts uh in you know, all of the
all of the luxuries they enjoy, the chauffeurd limousines are
come at the expense of you know, the blood, sweat
and tears of the Chinese people. That's how communism works
in practice. It is a great way of exploiting the masses.

Speaker 1 (02:03:17):
Now do you see a connection between this environmental movement
and communism?

Speaker 2 (02:03:24):
Because as I been I think, yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:03:26):
Yeah, I've been seeing that environmentalism has become more about control,
which has more to do with communism than trying to
clean up the planet. And I've mashed the two together
and I call it climunism. Uh do you see the
connect Do you see a connection there?

Speaker 8 (02:03:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (02:03:44):
I think there's a kind of green communism where people
will use the exclusive the excuse of climate change, rising
CO two levels, whatever, rising sea levels to say, we
can run your life better than you can. So you
give us all of your money and all of your resources,
and we will decide what you eat, and where you

(02:04:05):
live and where you go, and whether or not you
can fly on a plane more than once a year.
And I mean all of the other elements of control
are follow from that. Right. So the radical environmentalist want
to radically control us, and it would wind up being
something akin to a communist state. Now that's the end state. Now,
the radical population controllers not only want to control us,

(02:04:27):
they want to drastically reduce our numbers. And you hear
them say things like, well, we need to reduce the
population of the planet from eight billion down to one billion. Okay,
what are they going to do with the other seven
billion of us? Some of them say the carrying capacity
of the planet is only one hundred billion, Well, that
would mean eliminating even more of the rest of the population.

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And the advisor, the Chief advisor to the World Economic Forum,
says that we only need to keep two hundred and
fifty thousand of the most creative, enterprising, innovative humans alive.
The rest of us are just dead weight and can
be eliminated. That's fine for the lucky two hundred and
fifty thousand. What are they going to do with the

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rest of us, he said, We can be replaced by
artificial intelligence and robots.

Speaker 1 (02:05:15):
Yeah, I would love to see that come into play,
because once these people have to fend for themselves because
everything else isn't working, that would that would end very
quickly and not very pretty. I just this whole idea
of this group of people controlling the masses is just

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something that we need to put the steak in the
ground and make sure that this never happens and stay
vigilant that we don't allow it to happen.

Speaker 5 (02:05:47):
Well, it's absolutely the opposite, the polar opposite of the
American dream.

Speaker 2 (02:05:51):
Right.

Speaker 5 (02:05:51):
The American dream is one of rugged individualism, is one
of people pulling themselves up by their bootstraps, is one
of people improving the lives themselves and their families. And
the communists, the radical environmentalists, the radical population and controllers
all have this idea that they can run our lives
better than we can if we simply give them all

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of our money and all the power to do so.
And of course it will wind up at the end
of the day killing off most of the population of
the planet.

Speaker 1 (02:06:21):
Now, Stephen, we normally don't do this, and I usually,
you know, we try to keep an interview to the
bottom of the hour. Can you hang with us for
one more segment after the news at the bottom of
the hour, because I want to talk to you about
your efforts on the pro life movement, how you came
to the pro life movement and talk about your goals
for twenty twenty five and talk about population research and

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what you guys are involved in.

Speaker 2 (02:06:45):
Have you got time for you to stay with you
all right?

Speaker 1 (02:06:47):
My guest Stephen Moser, president of Population Research Institute. Just
fascinating conversation with him. I'm Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas,
fifty five KRC DE Talk station fifty five, eight.

Speaker 2 (02:07:05):
Thirty one in the morning.

Speaker 1 (02:07:06):
Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas, fifty five KRS the
talk station. My guest is Stephen Moser, President and Population
Research Institute. We've been talking about the previous couple of
segments and since the beginning of the hour talking about
China and their influence and their one child population and
their threat to the entire global world or global world

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now talking about the dangers of communism.

Speaker 2 (02:07:32):
Now.

Speaker 1 (02:07:33):
I wanted to make sure that you have an opportunity
to talk about your efforts as far as the pro
life movement, which is a big component of your organization,
and talk about your goals for twenty twenty five. And
you did not come to this and by the way,
welcome back to the program. Thank you for hanging with us.
You did not come to this originally. You were not

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an original pro life individual. Can you kind of walk
us through?

Speaker 5 (02:07:57):
That was at Sanford University in the nineteen seventies. One
of my colleagues at Stanford was Paul Airley, the infamous
author of the Population Bob, which argued, of course, that
we were breeding ourselves off the face of the planet,
that massive famines were going to destroy, you know, a

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good portion of humanity, and then the rest would soon
follow from, you know, catastrophic economic and societal collapse. That
never happened. So, but I went to China with the
idea that maybe China was overpopulated. I came back from
China realizing that China's problem was not too many people.
It was too much government and too overbearing and too

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dictatorial a government. China's problem was a communist party that
was actually killing off China's future in the person of
millions and millions of unborn and newborn children. And let
me point out that they were actually killing babies at
birth by lethal injection in order to enforce the one
child policy. I was in the operating room when they

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were doing forced abortions on women. These weren't early abortions.
These were abortions at seven, eight and nine months. And
I left China thinking that the taking of a human
life at any point in pregnancy is wrong. And I
left China understanding that China's problem was not its people,
but it's politics. And so that's the message that I

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came back to Stanford with. They didn't want to hear it,
by the way, so they fired me.

Speaker 2 (02:09:29):
Of course, surprise, friend.

Speaker 5 (02:09:33):
That's that's I was a victim of political correctness before
we called it political correctness, but it was the best
thing that ever happened to me. Went on to run
the Population Research Institute, where we make.

Speaker 2 (02:09:45):
The case for people.

Speaker 5 (02:09:46):
And you know, if you look around the world, you'll
see that more than half the countries of the world
actually have birth rates that are below replacement. Italy, Great Britain, France, Germany.
These are all dying countries. Taiwan, China itself, because of
the one child policy, South three, Japan, South America. The
birth rates are now at or below replacement in those

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once prolific countries, you know, once Catholic countries. All over
the world you see dying populations. And now, for the
first time, I believe that the entire population of the
world is now below replacement rate fertility. What does that mean.
It means that on average, people around the world are

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having fewer than two point one children. You need two
point one children to replace the current population. A husband
and wife have to have two a little more than
two children to ensure that the next generation, you know,
produces a number of children capable of sustaining the population
that would be two point one would zero population growth.

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We are now below that. So the population of the
world is now going to be shrinking in the years
to come, and that decline will accelerate over time as
fewer and fewer babies come into the world and fewer
and fewer babies are born. So our long term problem,
humanity's long term problem, despite what people may have heard,

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is not too many children.

Speaker 8 (02:11:16):
It's too few.

Speaker 1 (02:11:17):
Children absolutely, Steven Moser. We in other words, what we
kind of need pretty much is a rebirth of birth,
honoring the family, honoring being a parent, and making the
programs geared towards parent two parent households, and which falls

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into the pro life movement itself to where you eliminate
and get away from this planned parenthood narrative that tells
us that your life will be better without children.

Speaker 5 (02:11:51):
Absolutely, And you know, for decades, we've been playing defense.
We've been trying to cut funding to planned parenthood, which
exists to destroy, you know, innocent, unborn human life. We
have tried to cut funding to population control programs around
the world because it's none of our business how many

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children the people of Argentina or Brazil decide to have.
It should be up to the people of that country,
not up to us. And we've tried to cut funding
to other radical programs. The cultural imperialism that the West
seems to want to deliver to places like Africa and

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Latin America has to end. So we've been playing defense. Now,
I think we've got a lot of people onside with
the idea, including Donald Trump, including Elon Musk, with the
idea that we need pronatal policies, that the population is
aging and dying in the United States and other countries,
and we need pronatal policies to encourage family formation and

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to encourage childbearing. We fought for years to get the
child tex credit raised, and I think that during the campaign.
JD Vansi, incoming Vice President, said five thousand dollars a
year tax credit for each child from birth sixteen. I
think it ought to start from conception to age twenty

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one myself. But we're moving in the direction of protecting
our most vital research resource, which is young couples who
are willing to have children are providing for the future
of America in the most fundamental way by providing the
next generation. They need to be protected from taxes that
take half of their wealth away and in many cases

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leave young couples thinking, we can't afford to have a child.
My goodness, we can barely make our rent payment. Let's
protect that vital resource, these young couples who are willing
to have children, from exorbitant taxes so they can provide
for the future of the United States.

Speaker 1 (02:13:53):
We need to praise them instead of demonizing them for
having families and wanting to be parents. If people want
to get in touch with Population Research Institute, how do
they do that, Well.

Speaker 5 (02:14:05):
We are at pop dot org. Pop dotorg. POP is
short for Population Research Institute, so it's easy to find
our website and you've got lots of information there about
why babies are blessings and not burdens, and why we
need to stop funding programs to reduce the number of

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babies born in this country and around the world.

Speaker 1 (02:14:29):
I would encourage anybody out there in listening to go
to that website, Population Research Institute. Right on their front
page their goals for twenty twenty five. Eliminate Planned Parenthood's
taxpayer funding, stop US promotion of abortion abroad, enforce federal
law on abortion drugs, Strengthen the Mexico City Policy, defund

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UNFPA and complicit agencies, and ensrine the High Amendment permanently.
And go to their website and learn everything about those programs.
Steve and I can't thank you enough for spending time
with us. It's been a pleasure. Hope to have you
back sometime soon and we'll talk about the efforts, and
I certainly appreciate your time.

Speaker 2 (02:15:12):
I look forward to it, all right.

Speaker 1 (02:15:14):
Stephen Moser, President Population Research Institute, I've been long on
these breaks, so I've got to kind of clean that
up a little bit. I'm Kevin Gordon in for Brian Thomas,
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Speaker 1 (02:15:55):
So glad that Stephen Moser could spend time with us,
And like I said, I would encourage you to go
to his website. And obviously you can tell by the
interview that he's a very dynamic speaker. He's a guest
speaker and a lot of different functions. Author of a couple
of books, Bully of Asia White, China's Dream Is a
New Threat to World Order, and his most recent book,

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The Devil and Communist China from Maw Down to z
And it talks about their influence and just how evil
they are and the thing that has always surprised me
by the left. And as I point out, I wonder
how many of the people on the left have Shai

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Guavera t shirts in their closet. So many of them
think in terms of communism being this panacea, this great ability,
or this great way of running a government, of everything
being taken of and expanding their power, and of course
they hope to be in power. But what they don't
realize and what I don't know where they get and

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why they don't know about this. But if you look
at each communist country, whether it be the Soviet Union
or Communist China or any other communist nations, once the
communists take over, once the people are in power, they
don't want people around them that know how to form
a revolution, how to start a revolution, and they don't

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want anybody in power smarter than them or somebody that
could challenge them. So all of a sudden, you start
seeing all of these leaders get whacked and you start
dealing with just so you can push the population down,
just so that leaders can stay on top. And as
Stephen pointed out, this is a recipe for disaster and

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why people would want that in their country, and especially
from what we know of this country and the greatness
of this country and how wonderful this country has been
as far as the world is concerned. To want to
go to any type of communism, they must think that

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they are the elites. They must think that they're the
ones that are going to be on top. They think
that they're going to be the ones that are in charge,
and they are in for a rude awakening. It is
not the way to go. And the more you study
history and the more you understand and you look at it.
As Stephen pointed out, over five hundred million people have

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been murdered.

Speaker 2 (02:18:25):
In communist China.

Speaker 1 (02:18:27):
Stalin is responsible for fifty million murders alone in his country,
and the record of communism, the hundreds of millions of
people that have died as a result of these takeovers.
This is not how you start a country, This is
not how you become a world power, and this is
not how you try to make your mark on society.

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Speaker 1 (02:20:45):
We're going to be talking a little bit about now,
you know, the end kind of the urine review type
of thing, some of the stuff that went on, the
highest spots and bright spots. I don't know you can
get much more of a bright spot than the November
fifth election, but we'll talk about that as well as
other things. Right now, let's go to the phones. Talk
to Robert. Robert fifty five k S. Thanks for calling.
How are you today? And marry or a happy New Year.

Speaker 10 (02:21:07):
To you, Hbride.

Speaker 7 (02:21:09):
I appreciate it, thanks for take my call. I just
you know, I always thought that, you know, perhaps the
COVID nineteen itself, you know, they're in China may have
very well been part of a project for limiting or
killing off some of the population as tool. The greenest
was just a thought, but that, you know, that did
cross my mind that maybe they were trying to make
experiments they're in China to do that.

Speaker 2 (02:21:31):
Oh, no doubt about it.

Speaker 1 (02:21:32):
I think, you know, if there is a thorough investigation
as to what's going on. I mean, you don't do
gain a function and try to manufacture certain diseases and
try to pinpoint them. As it appears as though that
COVID nineteen was kind of more directed at to the
elderly people who had pre existing conditions pro co morbidity,

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co morbidity rates and possibly quite possibly a test if
you will, to see what we could do, how we
could control the population, and to see how much these
are working. Because if you're developing something, you want to
make sure or you want to see that it is working.

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And if it's not working, then you know you got
to perfect it. And I don't you know that is
not a far fetched theory when you look at what happened.

Speaker 2 (02:22:27):
And what went on.

Speaker 7 (02:22:30):
Yeah, exactly, I mean look at it mostly did effect,
you know when it came to COVID nineteen, and you know.

Speaker 10 (02:22:36):
Hopefully they stop.

Speaker 7 (02:22:37):
Maybe people's eyes are you know, woking up my grants
we say about November fifth.

Speaker 5 (02:22:42):
Or early Christmas present there, yeah.

Speaker 10 (02:22:44):
For America.

Speaker 7 (02:22:45):
But yeah, again that's just the thought of wonder how
many that's well, I'll ever get to the bottom of it.

Speaker 1 (02:22:50):
Frankly, Well, I hope that you know that the incoming
administration gets to the bottom of this, because we did
see some reports last last week that yes, in fact,
they knew about this, They knew that this was coming
out of the wet Mart well that Wuhan Lab as
early as October of twenty nineteen, and that the Secure,

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the CIA and the security officials tamped that information down
and try to prevent that information from going out. How
many lives could have been saved had we known this
back in October or November, because it really didn't start
hitting the United States until the beginning of twenty twenty,
and by that time we were behind the eight ball.

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And if you've got a and these scientists, if they're
working on something, they should know how to prevent it.
And the fact that that was let to go on
and didn't try to help end it, I think is
a criminal in itself, and I hope that this is
all looked into in the coming year. Robert, thank you

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so much for the phone call. I certainly appreciate it. Well, folks,
that pretty much does it for us this morning. I
certainly appress appreciate Christopher Smitherman and the smither event. I
always appreciate talking to him, and especially talking to talking
to our friend that with Population, Stephen Moser, the Population

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Research Institute, and talking about all their work, and especially
trying to open our eyes a bit to what is
going on in communist China and what their plan is
for the world. And again tomorrow we'll be picking up
and talking. I'll be in again tomorrow and talk about
some of the stuff for the year in review and
some of the stuff that we've looking forward to the

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coming year.

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