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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Start to finish, We'll be okay.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Here twenty twenty five, here right here on fifty five
KRS the talk station, Soto six, the fifty five KRCD
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talk station.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
A very happy Tuesday, Tu, Welcome.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
To the fifty five KRC Morning Show.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
And congratulations the voters in Green Township District thirty voters
for doing the right thing electing my next guest state representative.
And it's nice to be able to say that, Mike Odio. So, Mike,
welcome to the morning show. It's a real pleasure to
have you on my friend.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Hey, thanks a lot, Brian, I really appreciate it. This
is a great opportunity. I'm glad you reached out to
me and shout out to my friends and voters and
the district which is Green Township, Dalai Township, also Miami Township,
North Bend, Cleaves, and the wonderful municipality of Shiviot.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Heck yeah, West said, I love it because of course
I grew up in Dell High Yes, man, I get
it all day long, and I've you know, you've been
with some listener lunches before, and you know, I'm just
surprised it took you so long to run for office, Mike,
because everybody on the West Side knows how politically engaged
you are and how active you are and doing your
volunteer work, and I mean, this just seems like the
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perfect fit for you.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Well, I had a wonderful career at Saint Xavier High School.
I'll tell you just if you count a part time
my first year, I had thirty years out there, most
as a teacher. So as an administrator, I was in
an ideal situation. And I had to make sure that
I stuck around long enough for my son to get
free tuition when he graduate waited in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
I get that all day long.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
That's seventeen thousand reasons to stick around.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
But the really I really started thinking.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
About the State Rep position when I was lobbying on
behalf of the Development and Disabled in twenty fourteen or so,
and now Senator Romachuck Mark Romachuck suggested that I run
for State Rep. And then when I was I was
helping Bill Sites, the honorable Bill Sites, legendary Darry Legislator
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put up signs in green Township is when he asked
me if I wanted to be State Rep.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
And that was in.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
About twenty eighteen. I believe so, and of course I
was in no way going to challenge and would never
do it Bill Sites, of course, And I was.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
Thinking about this the other day.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
I think Bill Sites is probably the person that I
voted for the most times in my life, given his
twenty four years in the state legislature and before that
as Green Township trustee.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
I so anyway, I.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
You know, it was a great honor to be able
to follow a bill in this in this wonderful seat
and represent the people in the thirtieth District and my
beloved Green Township, del High, Miami Township, and the rest
of municipalities. Because for most of my life, which includes
basically after moving from Summit, New Jersey when I was
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six years old with my mom and dad, I've lived
in Green Township ever since. And so yes, I am
a west Sider, although I was born on the East side.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Well, you made the right choice, or your parents made
the right choice moving over to the west side. But
I do remember the commute from from del Hi O
to Saint Xavier High School because I swam on the
Marlins and keating that datorium. And so when I asked,
when I asked, my dad what my options for for
high school because I said I wanted to go to Elder.
Sorry he went to Elder. He said, you got two choices,
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O Kills or Xavier. And since I've been going to
Xavier every day of my life for the prior three years,
I'm like, I'm not doing that commute for the next
three more years. So, Okills is what I chose, and
I don't regret it. But you're a Saint Xavier grad yourself,
and you also have a double bearcat like me, University
of Cincinnati history degree fall by a law degree. So
that's kind of the path I took and right well
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served by the University of Cincinnati's education, So I have
no complaints.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
Absolutely yeah me either. Absolutely great.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
It was a great It was a great value going
to UC and both undergrad and graduate school.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
And then I.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Also got a Master's of Education from Mount Saint Joe,
which right I absolutely loved. So that that and of course,
my my journey into from practice in law to you know,
becoming a teacher at Saint Xavier High School ran through
Mount Saint Joe. So shout out to Mount Saint Joe.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Yeah, and what a perfect fit, you know, I don't
know how you thought about law school. I'm fortunate enough
to have met my wife in law school, which is
enough reason for me to have a happy experience with it.
But I loved law school because of the Socratic method
and the exchange that you would have and the back
and forth open discussion. And that just doesn't seem to
exist anymore. And the reason I point that out because again,
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being an educator at Saint Xavier High School, you taught
government economics, modern world history, US history, world cultures, in
American Civil War. That's an environment that is open to
that type of teaching methodology.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Were you able to do that?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
And I'm thinking of in modern times when we have
such divided politics and such you know, thin skin sensitive
people who can't face criticism or you know, but the
the the idea that you intended to insult somebody, like microaggressions,
you have to deal with that stuff. Was that did
that exist during your period over the course of your
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teaching and Xavier High School or did there remain a
really open environment for learning and and and and teaching
logic and reason and critical thinking skills.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
If if that had become the case, I would have
left you know, I really I'm at the point at
some point in my adultthood, I just decided that I
wanted to be around positive people. I wanted to be
around open thinkers, and I certainly was not going to
teach anything other than that when it came to my students.
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So no, but Saint Xavier always was and still is
just a wonderful place. It's the the closest you can
get to having a college or what used to be.
I guess when we were going through college college experience
on a high school level, and of course with the
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Jesuit mission, the Catholic Church's mission, I felt completely at
ease and I thrived there and a big shout out
to everyone in Sant's High School, the Social studies department,
the administration, and my fellow equlty members and the staff
out there are just incredible. So I was, and of
course the facilities. I'd football for sixteen years. That was
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a wonderful experience. And I was also a mock trial
moderator for two years. The first year we finished runner
up in the state on mock trial, and then my
second year we got a state championship in mock trial,
which I asked for a ring, but that that wasn't
for forthcoming.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
They deserve it.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
So, yeah, those mock trials are a great time and
a great learning opportunity for young people. You know, get
out there and make arguments and you know, just stand
on your own abilities. And I've also judged some of
those over the years.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Well that's great, and so you know exactly what that
mental abstract thinking ping pong tournament is and and but
you know, the thing is is that all these experiences,
you know, for the students in extracurriculars, different clubs, the
band and other things are just vitally important to being
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a successful adult and really grasping some kind of some
more serenity out of life, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeh.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
And so, but the abstract thinking skills was something I
was very very cognitive of and was a major objective
of all my classes, as is complete alignment with the
Jesuit Educational Mission and anything we can do to assist
you know, the public schools and all students in Ohio
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to practice abstract thinking skills to break them out of
concrete thinking, is vitally important, especially as we head into
a hyper age of technology and communication.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yeah, and that's I'm glad you brought that last point
up because you know, I struggle with how young people
are going to get well be able to cope with
life's challenges as they go through, because it's not that
the default now if you're asked a question is just
immediately to do a search on your search engine on
your phone. You're not sort of thinking about it and
talking about subject and just it's just so easy. And
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I would think that your retention, your your your ability
to retain any information, and some of it's very important,
is probably limited by the ease that you can go
out into the world and and and get the answers
to questions. It's like the old days used to have
to do mathematics on your own. You had to learn
multiplication tables, and you had to do the what was
behind the answer? Now everybody's toted around a calculator and
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just doo and it's done. Do you know what's behind
the ultimate?
Speaker 5 (09:37):
You know?
Speaker 3 (09:37):
You know equation? Can you actually perform that calculation on
your own without a calculator? And I think that's the
part that's missing these days.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
Well, I agree with you.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
And the other thing that is in tandem with it
is a culture of isolation. And so a failure to
apply all these different fields of knowledge and emotion appropriately
of course.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
With the world around them. Is this.
Speaker 6 (10:10):
Being tied to your phone culture.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
It just leads to a culture of isolation. And with
isolation you end up with sadness, you end up with
narrow thinking, you end up with the inability to listen,
and really you end up on a path that I'm
not saying they're not happy.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
But less levels of happiness and fulfillment in life.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
That's what I think.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I think that's an accurate observation. Now we'll pause.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
We'll bring my Codeo so back representing District thirty to
see if he's going to bring those things to legislation.
Is he going to make education reform or what else?
We're going to find out what he is going to
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Bottom of the hour.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
We're here from Jason Williams from the Cincinnian Choir on
the problems going on between the County and the Bengals
in terms of the least negotiations. The meantime, though, Mike Odeoso,
now representing District thirty here in the state of Ohio,
plan I presume Mike, you're planning on hitting the ground
running with this new gig. Is are talking about all
your background and education, and what an amazing background it is.
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Do you plan on bringing some of that education experience
that maybe brings some reform to the state of Ohio,
either by way of house schools are funded or perhaps
the curriculum. Do you have any ideas along those lines?
Speaker 6 (14:01):
Mike, Well, it's a work in progress.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
First of all, I've been in conversations with our wonderful
school districts, for example Oak Hill School District and the
Three River School District. I need to do more interaction
and learn more about the Sinciety Public School District. But
I do have the idea first, you know, I do
want to make sure that people understand I do support
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the public schools. I support the public school students obviously,
though that there needs to be some changes. I think
that I'm going to be looking very carefully at the
curriculum as it relates to my position as Vice chair
of Education Committee in the State House. The issue is
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also segues with the property tax issue, which of course
which of course is also a major part of education
in terms of the funding formula and tweaks to it.
Speaker 6 (15:03):
I don't think the answer is throwing.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
More money at that.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
We of course have to stick in some ways to
the funding formula because of course the original funding formula
was considered unconstitutional by the Ohio State Supreme Court.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Yeah, going on like thirty years ago, that's right, correct.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
But you know, I think that there's the issue I
see is it's on the record going to support the
public schools and work with them. The main complaint I
hear from the public school sector is the complaint about
a lack of accountability for the voucher program expansion. And
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when I listen to their complaint that they say that,
you know, these funds aren't regulated to the same extent,
of course as public funds for the public schools.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
When I really think.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
About it, it really comes down to an argument that
they're making that it's just not fair look at the
benefits of having less regulation for the school funds to
go to the private schools. And what I really do
recognize as a teacher at a private school for thirty years,
is that the accountability the private schools get is from
the people that pay their tuition, and also the other
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accountability is the alumni of these private schools. So rather
than taking away one of the great benefits of private schools,
which is less regulation as it relates to spending, I
would be more interested at this point to engage with
the public school sector and say what regulations can we
remove from the educational structure they would actually make their
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lives easier, make their in terms of consuming time for administration.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
I would look at the.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Testing battery to see if we can remove some of
the tests they have to give to their students. I
look at bus transportation, and with the funding formula, I
would consider the funds they receive, for example, for their
operating expenditures, to give them some leeway to be able
to spend those moneys on you know, maintenance and perhaps
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some small capital programs within their districts. But you know,
the bottom line is that there's a whole other level
of education in Ohio. I was on the board of
three charter schools. I think the charter school pro system
is a good system. I also think.
Speaker 6 (17:23):
That the you know, homeschooling system is a good system.
I would like to see if.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
They could, if the homeschools could further expand their their
regular school time activities and perhaps in their churches, but
I don't.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
I think the model that I like the most right
now for.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Creativity, because I think we have to be creative in
education is the model used by the Classical Academy and
Reading Amen. I mean that turned out to be. I
was approached by them, and I engaged with them at
the very beginning before they were open with their their
their lead Mike Rose and others, and so I got
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to see that the creation of that and that's that's
essentially a charter school.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
So I think it's been a huge success.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
I am partial.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
To its background with the Hillsdale College system and method
of education, and the more I look into that, the more.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
I find that to be absolutely fascinating.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
How they have like a metaphysical approach and classical approach
to education which does all the things that we were
talking about earlier when it comes to abstract thinking, for example,
and working in groups and teamwork, and those are the
things we did at since Davi High School. But I
just think that that's a model that, you know, what
can we do to assist and it doesn't have to be,
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you know, a particular political background when it comes to
these things. I mean, I'm open to other approaches to
besides you know, Hillsdale, but it still has to.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
In the end be very good education.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
And the other thing I was wondering about is, you know,
the Constitution says that there's a separation of church and state,
which I respect, but is it in the Constitution to
have a separation of school and the spirit Because I
look at education as being completely aligned with the soul
and the growth of the soul, and I could see
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activities that in curriculum that would not violate church and
state separations, which I respect, but at.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
Least the behaviors that come with getting.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
A better understanding of what we call our soul and
our place in this universe. So those are kind of
like the heavy thinking things. Really, what I'm going to
be looking for is the gifts of the Holy Spirit
and education, and that would apply also to public education.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Fair enough, my codeos. So I know you and I
are at least I hope you and I have further
conversations down the road as you establish your place and
represent District thirty over in on the west side of Cincinnati.
I'm certain you're going to do an outstanding job, and
obviously you have a great deal of concern and compassion
for students and education, which of course is a welcome,
welcome thing, especially when being in a position to change things.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Yeah, it also extends to other things involving young people,
and I'm going to be looking in with my colleagues
about how can we help the young people out there
who I still have a connection with. Of course, heavan,
I've taught high schoolers over thirty years. We really have
to figure out a way to get them the ability
to buy their first home or to at least live
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in apartments with reasonable rent. I understand that these go
into free market principles, but let's just talk about buying
your first home.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
Getting something of the life that you and I.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Really were blessed to have lived having been born in
the sixties. Yea, and again, I really want to make
sure the young people out there know that I'm in
their corner.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Well, I'm sure they're well feeling comfortable with that one.
Mike Odioso, I appreciate your being on the morning show
today talking with my listeners and me, and we'll have
you on again down the road. And anything happens in Columbus,
we need to know about legislative items, agenda anything. You've
got an open spot here on the fifty five Kerosey
Morning should have talk about it.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
I will, especially since I'm also on the Energy Committee.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Oh wonderful that will be.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
That will be something I'm sure that will be filled
with all sorts of interesting issues and discussion. Hey, Brian
and Jen, thanks for asking me to get on. I
look forward to being on again. And the shout out
to the voters in the thirtieth district and the shout
out to my wife, Leslie odioso.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Smart move on that last one, my friend, out of
your element just like me married smart smart men do that.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Mike.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
We'll talk again real soon. Take care of yourself and
best of luck in the position coming up Jason Williams
in the sense I Inquire Sports Writer. He's going to
merge his political writings from the former Politics Extra segment
along with his sports writing. We'll talk about the stadium
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Here twenty twenty five, here right here on fifty five
KRS the talk station, Soto six, the fifty five KRCD
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
A very happy Tuesday, Tu, Welcome.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
To the fifty five KRC Morning Show.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
And congratulations the voters in Green Township District thirty voters
for doing the right thing electing my next guest state representative.
And it's nice to be able to say that, Mike Odio. So, Mike,
welcome to the morning show. It's a real pleasure to
have you on my friend.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Hey, thanks a lot, Brian, I really appreciate it. This
is a great opportunity. I'm glad you reached out to
me and shout out to my friends and voters and
the district which is Green Township, Dalai Township, also Miami Township,
North Bend, Cleaves, and the wonderful municipality of Shiviot.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Heck yeah, West said, I love it because of course
I grew up in Dell High Yes, man, I get
it all day long, and I've you know, you've been
with some listener lunches before, and you know, I'm just
surprised it took you so long to run for office, Mike,
because everybody on the West Side knows how politically engaged
you are and how active you are and doing your
volunteer work, and I mean, this just seems like the
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perfect fit for you.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Well, I had a wonderful career at Saint Xavier High School.
I'll tell you just if you count a part time
my first year, I had thirty years out there, most
as a teacher. So as an administrator, I was in
an ideal situation. And I had to make sure that
I stuck around long enough for my son to get
free tuition when he graduate waited in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
I get that all day long.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
That's seventeen thousand reasons to stick around.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
But the really I really started thinking.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
About the State Rep position when I was lobbying on
behalf of the Development and Disabled in twenty fourteen or so,
and now Senator Romachuck Mark Romachuck suggested that I run
for State Rep. And then when I was I was
helping Bill Sites, the honorable Bill Sites, legendary Darry Legislator
(02:36):
put up signs in green Township is when he asked
me if I wanted to be State Rep.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
And that was in.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
About twenty eighteen. I believe so, and of course I
was in no way going to challenge and would never
do it Bill Sites, of course, And I was.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
Thinking about this the other day.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
I think Bill Sites is probably the person that I
voted for the most times in my life, given his
twenty four years in the state legislature and before that
as Green Township trustee.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
I so anyway, I.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
You know, it was a great honor to be able
to follow a bill in this in this wonderful seat
and represent the people in the thirtieth District and my
beloved Green Township, del High, Miami Township, and the rest
of municipalities. Because for most of my life, which includes
basically after moving from Summit, New Jersey when I was
(03:28):
six years old with my mom and dad, I've lived
in Green Township ever since. And so yes, I am
a west Sider, although I was born on the East side.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Well, you made the right choice, or your parents made
the right choice moving over to the west side. But
I do remember the commute from from del Hi O
to Saint Xavier High School because I swam on the
Marlins and keating that datorium. And so when I asked,
when I asked, my dad what my options for for
high school because I said I wanted to go to Elder.
Sorry he went to Elder. He said, you got two choices,
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O Kills or Xavier. And since I've been going to
Xavier every day of my life for the prior three years,
I'm like, I'm not doing that commute for the next
three more years. So, Okills is what I chose, and
I don't regret it. But you're a Saint Xavier grad yourself,
and you also have a double bearcat like me, University
of Cincinnati history degree fall by a law degree. So
that's kind of the path I took and right well
(04:25):
served by the University of Cincinnati's education, So I have
no complaints.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
Absolutely yeah me either. Absolutely great.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
It was a great It was a great value going
to UC and both undergrad and graduate school.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
And then I.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Also got a Master's of Education from Mount Saint Joe,
which right I absolutely loved. So that that and of course,
my my journey into from practice in law to you know,
becoming a teacher at Saint Xavier High School ran through
Mount Saint Joe. So shout out to Mount Saint Joe.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Yeah, and what a perfect fit, you know, I don't
know how you thought about law school. I'm fortunate enough
to have met my wife in law school, which is
enough reason for me to have a happy experience with it.
But I loved law school because of the Socratic method
and the exchange that you would have and the back
and forth open discussion. And that just doesn't seem to
exist anymore. And the reason I point that out because again,
(05:19):
being an educator at Saint Xavier High School, you taught
government economics, modern world history, US history, world cultures, in
American Civil War. That's an environment that is open to
that type of teaching methodology.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Were you able to do that?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
And I'm thinking of in modern times when we have
such divided politics and such you know, thin skin sensitive
people who can't face criticism or you know, but the
the the idea that you intended to insult somebody, like microaggressions,
you have to deal with that stuff. Was that did
that exist during your period over the course of your
(05:52):
teaching and Xavier High School or did there remain a
really open environment for learning and and and and teaching
logic and reason and critical thinking skills.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
If if that had become the case, I would have
left you know, I really I'm at the point at
some point in my adultthood, I just decided that I
wanted to be around positive people. I wanted to be
around open thinkers, and I certainly was not going to
teach anything other than that when it came to my students.
(06:25):
So no, but Saint Xavier always was and still is
just a wonderful place. It's the the closest you can
get to having a college or what used to be.
I guess when we were going through college college experience
on a high school level, and of course with the
(06:46):
Jesuit mission, the Catholic Church's mission, I felt completely at
ease and I thrived there and a big shout out
to everyone in Sant's High School, the Social studies department,
the administration, and my fellow equlty members and the staff
out there are just incredible. So I was, and of
course the facilities. I'd football for sixteen years. That was
(07:07):
a wonderful experience. And I was also a mock trial
moderator for two years. The first year we finished runner
up in the state on mock trial, and then my
second year we got a state championship in mock trial,
which I asked for a ring, but that that wasn't
for forthcoming.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
They deserve it.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
So, yeah, those mock trials are a great time and
a great learning opportunity for young people. You know, get
out there and make arguments and you know, just stand
on your own abilities. And I've also judged some of
those over the years.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Well that's great, and so you know exactly what that
mental abstract thinking ping pong tournament is and and but
you know, the thing is is that all these experiences,
you know, for the students in extracurriculars, different clubs, the
band and other things are just vitally important to being
(08:04):
a successful adult and really grasping some kind of some
more serenity out of life, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeh.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
And so, but the abstract thinking skills was something I
was very very cognitive of and was a major objective
of all my classes, as is complete alignment with the
Jesuit Educational Mission and anything we can do to assist
you know, the public schools and all students in Ohio
(08:33):
to practice abstract thinking skills to break them out of
concrete thinking, is vitally important, especially as we head into
a hyper age of technology and communication.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yeah, and that's I'm glad you brought that last point
up because you know, I struggle with how young people
are going to get well be able to cope with
life's challenges as they go through, because it's not that
the default now if you're asked a question is just
immediately to do a search on your search engine on
your phone. You're not sort of thinking about it and
talking about subject and just it's just so easy. And
(09:09):
I would think that your retention, your your your ability
to retain any information, and some of it's very important,
is probably limited by the ease that you can go
out into the world and and and get the answers
to questions. It's like the old days used to have
to do mathematics on your own. You had to learn
multiplication tables, and you had to do the what was
behind the answer? Now everybody's toted around a calculator and
(09:32):
just doo and it's done. Do you know what's behind
the ultimate?
Speaker 5 (09:37):
You know?
Speaker 3 (09:37):
You know equation? Can you actually perform that calculation on
your own without a calculator? And I think that's the
part that's missing these days.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
Well, I agree with you.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
And the other thing that is in tandem with it
is a culture of isolation. And so a failure to
apply all these different fields of knowledge and emotion appropriately
of course.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
With the world around them. Is this.
Speaker 6 (10:10):
Being tied to your phone culture.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
It just leads to a culture of isolation. And with
isolation you end up with sadness, you end up with
narrow thinking, you end up with the inability to listen,
and really you end up on a path that I'm
not saying they're not happy.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
But less levels of happiness and fulfillment in life.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
That's what I think.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I think that's an accurate observation. Now we'll pause.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
We'll bring my Codeo so back representing District thirty to
see if he's going to bring those things to legislation.
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Speaker 1 (13:29):
Bottom of the hour.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
We're here from Jason Williams from the Cincinnian Choir on
the problems going on between the County and the Bengals
in terms of the least negotiations. The meantime, though, Mike Odeoso,
now representing District thirty here in the state of Ohio,
plan I presume Mike, you're planning on hitting the ground
running with this new gig. Is are talking about all
your background and education, and what an amazing background it is.
(13:51):
Do you plan on bringing some of that education experience
that maybe brings some reform to the state of Ohio,
either by way of house schools are funded or perhaps
the curriculum. Do you have any ideas along those lines?
Speaker 6 (14:01):
Mike, Well, it's a work in progress.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
First of all, I've been in conversations with our wonderful
school districts, for example Oak Hill School District and the
Three River School District. I need to do more interaction
and learn more about the Sinciety Public School District. But
I do have the idea first, you know, I do
want to make sure that people understand I do support
(14:28):
the public schools. I support the public school students obviously,
though that there needs to be some changes. I think
that I'm going to be looking very carefully at the
curriculum as it relates to my position as Vice chair
of Education Committee in the State House. The issue is
(14:49):
also segues with the property tax issue, which of course
which of course is also a major part of education
in terms of the funding formula and tweaks to it.
Speaker 6 (15:03):
I don't think the answer is throwing.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
More money at that.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
We of course have to stick in some ways to
the funding formula because of course the original funding formula
was considered unconstitutional by the Ohio State Supreme Court.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Yeah, going on like thirty years ago, that's right, correct.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
But you know, I think that there's the issue I
see is it's on the record going to support the
public schools and work with them. The main complaint I
hear from the public school sector is the complaint about
a lack of accountability for the voucher program expansion. And
(15:44):
when I listen to their complaint that they say that,
you know, these funds aren't regulated to the same extent,
of course as public funds for the public schools.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
When I really think.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
About it, it really comes down to an argument that
they're making that it's just not fair look at the
benefits of having less regulation for the school funds to
go to the private schools. And what I really do
recognize as a teacher at a private school for thirty years,
is that the accountability the private schools get is from
the people that pay their tuition, and also the other
(16:18):
accountability is the alumni of these private schools. So rather
than taking away one of the great benefits of private schools,
which is less regulation as it relates to spending, I
would be more interested at this point to engage with
the public school sector and say what regulations can we
remove from the educational structure they would actually make their
(16:41):
lives easier, make their in terms of consuming time for administration.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
I would look at the.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Testing battery to see if we can remove some of
the tests they have to give to their students. I
look at bus transportation, and with the funding formula, I
would consider the funds they receive, for example, for their
operating expenditures, to give them some leeway to be able
to spend those moneys on you know, maintenance and perhaps
(17:08):
some small capital programs within their districts. But you know,
the bottom line is that there's a whole other level
of education in Ohio. I was on the board of
three charter schools. I think the charter school pro system
is a good system. I also think.
Speaker 6 (17:23):
That the you know, homeschooling system is a good system.
I would like to see if.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
They could, if the homeschools could further expand their their
regular school time activities and perhaps in their churches, but
I don't.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
I think the model that I like the most right
now for.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Creativity, because I think we have to be creative in
education is the model used by the Classical Academy and
Reading Amen. I mean that turned out to be. I
was approached by them, and I engaged with them at
the very beginning before they were open with their their
their lead Mike Rose and others, and so I got
(18:03):
to see that the creation of that and that's that's
essentially a charter school.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
So I think it's been a huge success.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
I am partial.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
To its background with the Hillsdale College system and method
of education, and the more I look into that, the more.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
I find that to be absolutely fascinating.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
How they have like a metaphysical approach and classical approach
to education which does all the things that we were
talking about earlier when it comes to abstract thinking, for example,
and working in groups and teamwork, and those are the
things we did at since Davi High School. But I
just think that that's a model that, you know, what
can we do to assist and it doesn't have to be,
(18:49):
you know, a particular political background when it comes to
these things. I mean, I'm open to other approaches to
besides you know, Hillsdale, but it still has to.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
In the end be very good education.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
And the other thing I was wondering about is, you know,
the Constitution says that there's a separation of church and state,
which I respect, but is it in the Constitution to
have a separation of school and the spirit Because I
look at education as being completely aligned with the soul
and the growth of the soul, and I could see
(19:22):
activities that in curriculum that would not violate church and
state separations, which I respect, but at.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
Least the behaviors that come with getting.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
A better understanding of what we call our soul and
our place in this universe. So those are kind of
like the heavy thinking things. Really, what I'm going to
be looking for is the gifts of the Holy Spirit
and education, and that would apply also to public education.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Fair enough, my codeos. So I know you and I
are at least I hope you and I have further
conversations down the road as you establish your place and
represent District thirty over in on the west side of Cincinnati.
I'm certain you're going to do an outstanding job, and
obviously you have a great deal of concern and compassion
for students and education, which of course is a welcome,
welcome thing, especially when being in a position to change things.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Yeah, it also extends to other things involving young people,
and I'm going to be looking in with my colleagues
about how can we help the young people out there
who I still have a connection with. Of course, heavan,
I've taught high schoolers over thirty years. We really have
to figure out a way to get them the ability
to buy their first home or to at least live
(20:35):
in apartments with reasonable rent. I understand that these go
into free market principles, but let's just talk about buying
your first home.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
Getting something of the life that you and I.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Really were blessed to have lived having been born in
the sixties. Yea, and again, I really want to make
sure the young people out there know that I'm in
their corner.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Well, I'm sure they're well feeling comfortable with that one.
Mike Odioso, I appreciate your being on the morning show
today talking with my listeners and me, and we'll have
you on again down the road. And anything happens in Columbus,
we need to know about legislative items, agenda anything. You've
got an open spot here on the fifty five Kerosey
Morning should have talk about it.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
I will, especially since I'm also on the Energy Committee.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Oh wonderful that will be.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
That will be something I'm sure that will be filled
with all sorts of interesting issues and discussion. Hey, Brian
and Jen, thanks for asking me to get on. I
look forward to being on again. And the shout out
to the voters in the thirtieth district and the shout
out to my wife, Leslie odioso.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Smart move on that last one, my friend, out of
your element just like me married smart smart men do that.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Mike.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
We'll talk again real soon. Take care of yourself and
best of luck in the position coming up Jason Williams
in the sense I Inquire Sports Writer. He's going to
merge his political writings from the former Politics Extra segment
along with his sports writing. We'll talk about the stadium
lease deal with Jason Wims. That'll be next first, though.
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