AFP Ohio - Thanks Reps for Supporting the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA)

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Happy Friday Eve to you. Welcome back to the fifty
five Karosee Morning show. Another appearance by Donald and Neil
with Americans for Prosperity. I guess, in a celebratory mood
Americans for Prosperity, is you sent out thank you karts
for those who voted for the Tax Cuts in Job
Act of twenty seventeen. Welcome back, Donald and Neil. It's

(01:22):
always good to talk with you.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Hey, good to be here. Absolutely. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
Well, usually, you know, so we roll up to these
congressional offices and they're like, what do we do wrong
a piece here? But this time I think what we
come in they can the green and yellow scarves are
showing up no with in this case.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Part of what we did is, you know, the twenty
seventeen Trump Tax Cuts and Jobs Act.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
We we reissued some thank you cards on that, not
because we're a few years late in getting our appreciation out,
but because we wanted to remind folks these five members
of Congress Jim Jordan, Warren Davidson, Mike Turner, Dave Joyce,
and I've got somebody on the tip of my tongue
it's slipping pass me, Bob Lada had all voted for

(02:11):
that original act. We wanted to thank them for their work.
Then and use that to begin to drive the conversation
about how we need to make these Trump tax cuts permanent.
And so it was great to go out and get
a lot of signatures and start to engage folks on
something that they've probably forgot a little bit about, because
you know, twenty seventeen feels like a lifetime ago for
many folks.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
It really does.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
And I was kind of chuckling to myself about twenty
seventeen and you're thanking them for something they did back
in twenty seventeen because obviously it's facing expiration. That's the
thing that I'll be quite candid and blunt in my comments.
It pisss me off that they don't make these cuts
permanent and require a subsequent Congress to take the step
to actually increase our taxes, which is never a popular thing.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
Yeah, well, you know the reason they do this is because,
you know, there are always a handful of folks, these
are always slim majorities we have who you know, say hey,
we gotta we got to make sure the fiscal note
looks healthy. And I think it's an honorable thing to do, right.
We want fiscal conservatives, we quolts who like that. But
I think you could achieve a better outcome if you

(03:18):
did what you're saying there, Brian, Right, make the tax
cuts permanent and force them to go back and actually
say we're going to claw this money from our citizens,
rather than reversus saying we're gonna we're just gonna let
them expire so we can have a healthier fiscal note,
we need more restraint across the board.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Well, it also I mean a permanent tax cut or
even a permanent tax increase, if you want to go
that route and you think it's the right thing to do,
it at least allows businesses the perception of planning. They
don't have to worry about the end coming and how
they're going to react when they know that this is
going to disappear at a certain calendar date. It's just

(03:54):
it throws, you know, advanced planning on its head.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Well, it's an app absolutely key point.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
And one of the things that we're driving right is
that these tax cuts, the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act,
impacts folks up and down the income scale. It impacts
not just individuals, but businesses, not just big businesses. It
impacts small mom and pop shops. Right, they can take
some of their depreciation and apply it to this tack

(04:23):
to the current tax year rather than the other. But
right now, because of these tax set's expiring, in some
of the tax planning, it's an unknown what they should
be doing this year to prep for next year until
Congress gets some stability in place and makes these Trump
tax cuts permanent.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah, and I love the argument that they make all
the time because no one has ever identified what quote
unquote fair share is. They don't pay their fair they
need to pay their fair share, they need to pay
their And you question that, like, well, wait a second,
what is fair share? Because seems to be a moving
target for anybody making those statements. But then as we say,
sit here and going back to Elon Musk and like,

(05:02):
for example, that whole usaid program and forty billion dollars
showing out nonsensical money, massive quantities of money for really
nonsensical problem or issues or projects throughout the world, stop
and puzzle. Sometimes I think the left just says we
need to take more money merely for the sense of
taking it away and depriving whoever they're taking it from

(05:25):
of their freedom to spend it wherever the hell they want.
And when you step back and look at what they're
spending it on. You're like, wait a second, you you
don't need to take more money. You're already wasting billions
and billions of dollars on stupid things, and even the
left wingers don't want well.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
I think that's part of what is being exposed through
some of what the DOGE, Department of Government Efficiency, Elon
Musk and the current Trump administration are doing. Right, they're
sort of exposing what you're saying there, Right, it's never enough,
there's no there's no fair share, there's no upper limit.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
There's the site and it exists not just.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
In Congress, but in Columbus, where they know better than
us how to spend our money. They can better help
our communities than we can. And it's just a fundamental
conflict divisions as Thomas soul book, great book, but it's
the conflict divisions. They believe they know better than us
the people, and it's wrong, it's wrong, and it's why

(06:23):
we got to fight for these tasks.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
That's what we've got to fight back against, this.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
Effort to continue to grow the size and scope of
government and support initiatives like this that are going to
help keep the money in our pockets so we could
support the initiatives in our communities and help our neighbors out,
not wait for the government to show up and do
that well.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
And isn't it a sorry state of affairs? And you know,
I'll pick on the military budget, and it's worthy of
picking on.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
It's huge.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
It's more than like the entire globe spends on American military.
And you're talking to someone who loves the American veteran
and thanks every single one of them for enlisting and
defending our country and doing the right thing by America.
But when when you look at the numbers, there is
so much fraud, waste and abuse in just that one
segment of government that Donovan O'Neil, you know as well

(07:09):
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failed every time. Hold on, Donald, I'll I'll tell you what.
Just leave that sit right there and we'll bring it
back because we're out of time in the segment. I'm
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Station seven forty two if you five krcit detalk station
Brian Thomas with Donovan and Neil from Americans for Prosperity
talking about the tex Cuts and Jobs Acts up twenty seventeen,
which is set to expire, trying to keep it in place.
And you know, Donovan, going back to my earlier comments,
I really get the suspicion that, I mean, this is
not somebody would make the argument that, well, we need

(10:12):
more taxes from people. We need to raise taxes because
we've got this massive debt that we have built up.
We need to pay that down or something. But it's
a laughable proposition because it just keeps getting bigger and bigger,
regardless of which administration assigned that the federal government just
spends too much. And then as we are finding out
now more and more at each and every day thanks
to Elon Musk and Donald Trump or Donald Trump and

(10:33):
Elon Musk that we have a fat, bloated government that
just spends countless billions of dollars on stuff and things
that nobody in the American public wants, needs or is
benefited by, which leads me to conclude, and I'm interested
in your reaction on this, it's not really about providing needed,
valuable government services. It's more about just taking money just

(10:58):
because their perception is, well, you just make too much,
we need to take it away from you. This whole
concept of you know, from each accordings ability, each court
is a need or socialism or some form of twisted Marxism.
It's not about efficiency, it's not about doing good. It's
just about leveling the financial playing field for no other
reason than to level the financial playing field.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
Yeah, well yeah, so it's using in that case, right,
it's using the federal government or any government's taxing cysts
mechanism to achieve social outcomes. Right, equity, and that's equity. Yeah,
and that's you know, that's a problem, right, because that's
not how this should work.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Right. We should be we should be given.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
The government, letting the government take right permissively, letting the
government take just what it needs to provide its.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Core essential services.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
And when it comes to the federal government, Brian, just
a couple of things come to mind from me, right.
One is national defense. Let's make sure we can protect
ourselves from the enemies abroad. And border security. Let's make
sure that we have integrity as a nation, and we
could secure our borders and know who's coming and going,
and the good folks should be able to get here
and the bad folks should stay out. Beyond that, there

(12:09):
ain't a lot the federal government should be doing now,
you know, that's it's hard to get back to that
kind of purity, right and the clarity and what the
federal government subjectives are. But it seems like we're taking
a good stab at it right now.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
With what Dosee is doing.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
And if we can the keep the government off of
our paychecks and make these tax cuts permanent, it's another
step in the right direction to not keep feeding the
beast that just will never have enough of our of
our hard earned money.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
All right, now, moving back to the challenge, Obviously Democrats
are not going to be in favor of renewing or
keeping in place the Trump tax cuts under the TCJA,
but in the face of everything that's being revealed, do
you think they're going to lose their argument along those
lines and that their own constituents are going to say,
wait a second, Wait a second, you guys really don't

(12:59):
need more money. And in fact, the less money you
take out of our paychecks, the more tax revenue will
flow into the Washington federal government because will be more efficient,
will produce more goods and services and ergo more revenue,
more people employed because we've got freedom to hire people
with the money that they didn't take. That's the reality
of lower taxes. No one seems to want to admit it,

(13:21):
but it's been proven over and over again. Yeah, well
without a doubt.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
And I think you know, nobody left, right or in
between the likes to see money being misspent, right, And
I think yes, part of what is being talked about
right now is that this money isn't going you know,
it's going to a lot of things, but it's not
going to the things that are going to actually help
people where they're hurting, right with their grocery bill, with
their car, filling up their car, with paying their utilities,

(13:48):
with getting their kids through school, with finding the job
right and I think, you know, you drive on that message,
then you connect folks to the reality that you know,
we don't need to be feeding a rape system and
this is your money, not Washington's. And I think we've
got a winning formula to be successful at this stage
to get things done. Folks are coming out of four

(14:10):
years of Bidenomics. They're paying as I think some like
twelve thousand more to live the same standard of living
they were living four years ago when Trump was back
and off it was in office. The first time Bidenomics
made people have to spend twelve thousand dollars more a
year just to maintain their standard of living.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
They want relief.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
And when they hear that billions of dollars are going
overseas to wacky programs, they demand accountability. And I think
this is going to the conversation happening now in Washington
around DOGE and USAID is helpful in the conversation around
why we need to have the Trump tax customer permanent
and we need to rein in the out of control
monster that is the US federal government bureaucracy.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah, no question about it. And you know, Bidenomics in
part is literally the running of the fiat currency printing press.
The more dollars you produce and generate just out of
thin air, the less your dollar in your pocket is worth.
I mean, that's just just generally accepted economic reality.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
Thomas Massey had a really good clip that made the
rounds of a week or so ago I feel like
where he demonstrated that in a congressional hearing.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Right.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
Diluting water, it's what it doesn't. Dilutes the value of
your dollar. And every time the federal government prints more
money or comes up with a new program, that's our
dollar being diluted. It's less and has less buying powered,
has less impact, and you got to work more hours
and harder to keep up with the standard living you
were living before the federal government printed the most recent million, billion,

(15:35):
or trillion dollars whatever it might be doing right now
to spend on a new program.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
It's got to stop.

Speaker 4 (15:41):
And one of the best ways to stop it is
to not keep feeding the system, to make these taxicits permanent,
and let us keep our hard earned money so that
the federal government doesn't get its hands on it and
go out and spend find new ways to spend it,
and then some.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Well as we always typically end our conversations. I want
to do it again today, Donovan and Neil from America
is for Prosperity, My listeners and I and everyone can
play a part in trying to keep these tax cuts
in place. What's the call to action? How can we
act and what do you recommend doing well?

Speaker 4 (16:10):
We'd like you to go to Protect Prosperity dot com.
At the very top of Protect prosperity dot com, there's
a take action button. Take action that'll get you into
our system so we can contact you and let you
know about upcoming events and problems and maybe maybe some
congressional office visits will have coming up.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
But we want to hear your story. We want you
to join our rank a.

Speaker 4 (16:31):
Lot of a good time, and we're going to save
the country while we're doing it. Protect prosperity dot com
take action, a member of our team will reach out
to you and we'll get you plugged into what we've
got going on in Southwest Ohio.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
I encourage everyone to do that. Not in the team
at Americans for Prosperity doing a fabulous job, demonstrable success.
We can point to on other calls to action that
you've announced on the morning show, and I know my
listeners are really engaged, so we'll keep them engaged. Protect
Prosperity dot com. Donald O'Neil, keep up the great work
at Americans for Prosperity. Look forward to having you back

(17:00):
on the program, probably with more good news down the road.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
We'll be here.

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