55KRC Thursday Show - Ken Kober, Jennifer Gross, AFP, Michael Walsh, Jay Ratliff

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Five o five at fifty five k r c DE
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Friday e some sation.

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And that's the way the news goes.

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Yeah, I guess it is happy for Friday folks. Brian
Thomas right here, glad to be, glad to see Joe
treker Ory belongs and looking at the rundown. I'm really
happy and excited to have Ken Cober FLP president back on.
Talk about the FOP firefighters filing a complaint over the
Cincinnati's Emergency Communications Center Responder program. Gonna join the program

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at six thirty. Looking forward to talking with you, Ken.
If you're tuned in right now, I have stayed. Representative
Jennifer Gross joins the program at seven o five, talk
about Ohio Medicaid Committee. We're not really good when it
comes to Medicaid payments and ferreting out fraud, waste and
abuse here in the state of Ohio. We're gonna find
out they're gonna be any changes to the system. Donald
and el Americans for Prosperity, protecting prosperity and the Trump

(01:17):
tax cuts. Got that event at the farm which is free.
Americans for Prosperity is paying for your dinner. We'll get
the details from Donovan on that at seven thirty. It's
a Restore Liberty dot Us. George Brenman on yesterday talking
about his new wellness website, but also through in a
plug for the Restored Liberty dot Us Dinner at the

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Farm featuring Americans for Prosperities Donovan and Neil and a
free meal. Thanks to them, Michael Walsh got the book
A Rage to Conquer Twelve Battles that changed the course
of Western History. Michael joined the program dato A five
on that one and the AA Jay Ratliffe on the
Rundown as he is every Thursday at eight thirty. Today,

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we talked about the latest on the Delta Toronto crash.
I did get a chance to watch the video of that. Wow,
that's just amazing that no one died in that just
really mind boggling. See if he has any insight onto
how that actually happened. I've heard lots of speculation on
a plane hit the ground too hard, the wind was
blowing sideways, all kinds of speculation on that. Trump firing

(02:23):
hundreds of FAA employees and calls in space X to
see about needed FAA upgrades. We all know the antiquated
system they're using the Federal Aviation Administration and the control
towers for airplanes. That goes back to like the nineteen
fifties or post World War two. So yeah, probably needed

(02:44):
an upgrade. It reminds me of the City of Cincinnati,
just you know, having all of these projects that need
to be done, infrastructure that's already in place. Ask screw it,
we need something new. Let's go build something new and
then ignore that. Please see General Aviation crash claims two
lives in a mid air collition. That one just happened

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the other day. We'll talk about that with Jay see
what he knows about it. And Airlines added again seeking
to reverse December rule requiring penalties for breaking wheelchairs. Okay,
oh man, and pardon me if I'm struggling a little

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bit today. I don't know anybody listening audience has had
the laser treatment for glaucoma. I do have a family
history of glaucoma, and guess what have valcoma. So after
taking drops for many years, apparently the drops don't work
after a while, and then you get a little holes
blasted in your eyeball with a laser. I had that
done yesterday in my right eye and supposed to be

(03:48):
done again next week for my left My eye hurts
like hell today and I'm having a difficult time focusing.
So if I fumble around a little bit more than normal,
and I always fumble around, you know the reason why
I've got my lights turned pretty low in here today
because it's kind of light sensitive as well. Anyhow, sorry
for my you know, just letting you know about my

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own personal troubles. These so don't try to labor the
listening audience with them, but just trying to provide you
an advanced explanation. Five on three, seven four nine fifty,
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hit pound five fifty. If you have an AT and
T phone, save me from myself, feel free to call.
I thought this was cool. I will see if it stands.
I probably someone will immediately rush into court to see

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if they can unring the bell that Donald Trump rang
last evening by signing an executive order ending the use
of your taxpayer money for federal resources supporting illegal immigration
and illegal aliens. You can do that, apparently, so at

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least you can try, they said, the goal of the
executive order is to ensure that quote, taxpayer resources are
used to protect the interest of American citizens, not illegal aliens. Apparently,
under the order of the federal departments and agencies have
to identify and end all federally funded programs providing financial

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benefits to illegal aliens. Also seeks to ensure federal funds
are not being used to support sanctuary policies and parathetically,
we learned yesterday from Judge ent To Polatano interesting column
on that one. The DOJ tabled the prosecution of Mayor

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Eric Adams in return for his agreement to help the
federal government get rid of the illegal aliens, most notably
the illegal immigrant criminals that are plaguing New York. Some
people a little miffed about that. I think Judge of
Polatana called it out on an ethical question whether or
not that should even be, that it is even appropriate,

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which on many levels I understand, But it was just
the funny thing about it was dismissed without prejudice, which
in the law means they just stopped the prosecution, but
they can reopen it at any time in the future,
So they've got this, as the judge referred it, sort
of damnically. He's hanging over Adam's head. So to the

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extent he doesn't make good on his promises to cooperate
with Ice and federal authorities dealing with the illegal immigrant
criminal population and getting rid of them, then they'll just
open the litigation or the criminal prosecution back up. A
dismissal without prejudice means it's done and over with stick
a fork in it. You can't bring it back anyhow.

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Subtle distinction that, but fifty five care sea dot com
for the podcastfeeding in here get to hear judge ended
a politana's analysis anyway. According to the reporting, the order states,
my administration will uphold the rule of law, defend against
the waste of hard earned taxpayer resources, and protect benefits
for American citizens in need, including individuals with disabilities and veterans.

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According to the fact sheet issued by the White House,
President Trump is committed to safeguarding federal public benefits for
American citizens who are truly in need, including, as I mentioned,
individuals with disabilities and veterans. So the corresponding White House
fact sheet quotes the executive order that Donald Trump signed

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cut and paste now in terms of facts and figures,
whopping amounts spent on illegal immigration. You if you work
and pay taxes, we're responsible for an estimated four hundred
and fifty one billion dollars to care for illegal immigrants

(07:53):
and guideways in the United States unlawfully since just twenty
twenty one. And that is according to the US House
and Homeland Security Committee. They did the number crunching on
that one You, if you work and Pay taxes, has
spent one hundred and eighty two billion, at least annually
to cover the cost of twenty million illegal aliens and

(08:14):
their children. Sixty six point five billion of that federal
dollars and one hundred and fifteen point six billion from
state and local expenses. Apparently, the Center for Immigration Studies
estimated that one million illegal aliens cost the American taxpayers

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three billion dollars annually through welfare programs, which are not
supposed to be available to those unlawfully in the United
States according to the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation
Act in nineteen ninety six. Now I'll be the first person,

(09:00):
todmit I wasn't aware of that law. A lot of
people have been asking the question out loud, how is
it that an illegal immigrant can get money from the
federal government. How is it that we keep buying and
paying for stuff and things for folks who are here illegally. Well,
according to Fox News reporting, they're not under that particular act. However,

(09:26):
there is apparently a caveat illegal aliens granted parole become
classified as qualified aliens when it comes to welfare programs,
allowing them to become eligible for benefits with full eligibility
granted after five years. So maybe it's that parole component
that Biden put into place. If you are declared a

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parole EU are now eligible in spite of that specific
Reconciliation Act in nineteen ninety six. Hmm, magical, isn't it.
Let's see here, Executive orders stated the federal and state
taxpayers paid more than sixteen point two billion dollars to
provide Medicaid funded emergency services to illegal aliens. That estimate

(10:14):
from the Congressional Budget Office, not some Republican subcommittee puting
numbers together for people who are skeptical and cenecal. But
you can be skeptic golden cenecal about the Congressional Budget
Office numbers as well. I'm just quoting the figures that
they came up with. It's a lot of money, is
the point. Facts, She continued to bude administration gave billions
and taxpayer dollars to left wing groups that facilitated mass

(10:36):
illegal migration and provided legal services and challenges to deportation orders.
They also pointed out FEMA allocated more than one billion
billion dollars to illegal aliens since twenty twenty one, rather
than FEMA money going to say, the flooded folks in
North Carolina, which comes up in conversation regularly, and as

(10:57):
I suppose, I don't know if it's connected with this
specific ill order that he signed last night, or it's
because Doge has been cracking down on a lot of
these out payments. The US Catholic Bishops have sued the
Trump administration for shutting down refugee funding, and it amounts

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to tens of millions of dollars. So you get hooked
up to the aubilical court of the federal government, even
if you're the US Catholic Bishops and the Catholic Church.
That isn't money you can count on. How much are
the parishioners going to give you in church on Sunday?
You don't know how much is the federal government going
to give you and how long will they fund your program?
You don't know, you're not entitled to. It would be

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my argument we can get to take a little bit
of a dive into the specifics of those allegations in
the lawsuit. But the Trump administration also halted seven hundred
and sixty nine million dollars for a contract to a
left wing group that is really all about keeping the
illegal immigrants in our country and doing anything they can

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within their power to stop deportation under any circumstances. So
you have advocacy groups, groups that are actively facilitating bringing
illegal immigrants into our country and advocating that there shouldn't
be any specific exclusion on them, that the system is

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designed intentionally designed to exploit, exclude criminalized detainer to poor
people deemed to be undeserving of inclusion in our national fabric,
particularly black and brown people. The Acacias Center seven hundred
and sixty nine million dollars for the services they provide,
when that is the advocacy that they're involved with. Now,

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I'm tired of paying for messaging the flies in face
of what I believe in, and well ultimately messaging an
impact which is harmful to the American people. Go back
to the budget amounts and the expenditures I just mentioned,
and we're broke by the way, five eighteen ft five
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strongly encourage you to download. So back over to the
US Cathleen Bishops fire in a lawsuit and where are
the where are all this separation of church and state people?
I mean, at every turn, the left jumps out of
their skin when you find out that federal money or

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even state money ends up in the hands of some
religious organization and they, you know, ACLU or somebody runs
in the court to try to stop that from happening.
How come it's different when all these religious organizations are
getting your taxpayer dollars to facilitate illegal immigration in our country,
not mean just helping people out once they're here, but

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actually to engage in active you know, bringing them in.
So I I'm just curious to know what happened to
them usually crawling out of the woodwork. And isn't one
of the missions that when you give money to if

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you're a Catholic, give money in the plate. Isn't part
of the money to serve the Christian mission of helping
people in need?

Speaker 5 (14:58):
Now?

Speaker 1 (14:58):
I know you got to pay for the big building
in the church and the HVAC system and the salary
of the people that worked there, and on and on
and on and on and on. But I thought a
slice of the action was supposed to go to help
fulfill the Christian mission. Isn't why you used the church
in order to fulfill the mission?

Speaker 5 (15:13):
Right?

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Well, you're talking with their own priest about that, But
apparently they have to rely on federal dollars. So we
have this non governmental organization Catholic non governmental organizations final
lawsuit against the Trump administration because they halted funding for
the refugee resettlement program found in the US District Court
of District Columbia. The US Conference of Catholic Bishops said

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that six thousand and seven hundred admitted refugees were assigned
to the program for Refugee Resettlement, and then the Trump
administration ended its funding, which they claim could jeopardize their efforts.
Bishops apparently claimed that the funding means it is now

(16:01):
on the hook for millions in costs incurred, which they
suggest as the violation of federal laws. In other words,
you promised us the money. We actively entered into, you know,
a belief that you were going to give us the money,
requiring us and obligating us to you know, follow through
with it, and now the money's cut off. Well, if

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this is part of the Catholic mission, maybe as slice
of that plate, money should fill the void here that
the Trump administration is taken away just saying, according to
the lawsuit, as a direct result of the suspension of
the USCCCB has millions of dollars in pending unpaid reimbursements

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for services already rendered to refugees, and is accruing millions
more each week, with no indication that any future reimbursement
will be paid, or that the program will ever resume.
They say it has already been forced to initiate layoffs
for fifty employees. Joke because of the Catholic organization. Should

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we feel more sorry for the employees laid off under
this program than the federal government employees that have been
laid off during this Absolutely not. That was a quick
You didn't even hesitate. If the funding is still suspended
without court intervention, the USCCB faces irreparable damage to its

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long standing refugee resettlement programs and its reputation and relationship
with its sub recipients and the refugee population it serves. Huh,
knock down a notch in terms of reputation among the refugees.
Wait a minute, they're not giving me handouts anymore.

Speaker 5 (17:53):
Damn it.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Er Catholic Church or that actionable law would argue that
the resettlement program isn't foreign aid and is instead a
domestic program to help newly arrived refugees meet initial needs.
USCCB spends more on refugee resettlement each year than it

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receives in funding from the federal government, but it cannot
sustain its programs without the millions in federal funding that
provide the foundation of this private public partnership. Well, I
think one could easily observe that this is in fact,
the US Catholic bishops are actually fulfilling the mission of
the Catholic Church helping out these poor, deprived people that

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don't have homes and food and shelter and medicine and
all that kind of stuff that is I would say,
arguably within the confines of the Catholic doctrine and most
Christian doctrines helping those in need. So by the federal
government funding this operation, are we not funding these spread
of the organization's mission teachings of Catholicism and Christianity generally.

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And the American taxpayer money is then given to the
Catholic Church, who's worried about its reputation here, right, because
if the newly arrived immigrant population are being served by
the Catholic Church, they don't know where the Catholic Church
got the money, so they give credit to the Catholic Church.
Right And since Catholic Church can't continue this mission without

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federal taxpayer dollars, their reputation is being harmed, not Donald
Trump's the White Houses or the federal government's reputation for
cutting off the money the Catholic Church's reputation. So this
ultimately is a marketing thing for the Catholic Church, and
that seems to me to be potentially a violation of

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the First Amendment. I'm just saying. By twenty seven, fifty
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Some florries out there this morning, and the roads can
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the Cincinnati Emergency Communications Center Responders program and some concerns

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at GP and the fire. The FOP and the firefighters
have on that one. Let us see here in the
absence of phone calls diving local stories. So we approve
recreational marijuana in Ohio, lawmakers now want to limit it
and criminalize certain aspects of it. Senate Bill fifty six
would ban public smoking driving while the driver or any

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passenger in the vehicle is using marijuana, and reduce the
number of homegrown plants allowed by half, and increase the
tax from ten seten percent to fifteen percent. And I
read recently that the Michigan marijuana weed and it's been
legalized a lot longer than Ohio. A lot of people
go to Michigan. From what I hear, it's about half

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the price you pay in Ohio. So by jacking the
tax up here in Ohio, I don't know that that
necessarily is going to improve the revenue situation. But who
am I. None of the proposed rules were part of
the constitutional amendment passed by fifty seven percent of the
voters here in the state of Ohio. Senator Steven Hoffman
tip city behind the changes. In short, this bill is

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about government efficiency, consumer and child safety, and maintaining access
to voter approved adult use marijuana. This same bill passed
the Senate last General Assembly, but it didn't pass in
the House. ACLU thinks the bill ignores the mandate from
the voters, saying Ohio voters overwhelmingly supported issue too, says

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Gary Daniels, their chief lobbyist from the ACLU, and doing so,
they endorse policies regarding adult use cannabis. SB fifty six
now proposes to roll back these changes in hole or
in part, in an affront of those same voters, well,
voters who will be able to vote their people out
of office around next time around if they're upset about
this one anyway. The legislation apparently cuts in half the

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number of plans that can be grown in a home.
You can do twelve now, but they want to cut
it back to six. Joe, why not five or eight
or seven? Or stay out of my house. You can

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get a ton of weed off of one plant anyway.
Also lower the THC level from extracts from ninety percent
to seventy percent. And also, and I don't know how
you enforce this one ban sharing between adults. Does that
mean you can't pass the Ducchi It also says you

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can't smoke weed after ten PM Joe amendment also mandates
some of the tax billers be spent on social equity
and jobs programs, but the bill eliminates that provision reduces
the money spent to spend it on mental health and

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addiction services. Well, you know what we always say about
Republicans in Columbus, Joe. From the ACLU's part, Finally, the
ACU in Ohio urges this community to not rush this
bill through the Senate. There's lots of interest in this
issue across the Ohio, but many do not have an

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opportunity to testify today or have to a chance to
fully review be one hundred and forty seven page bill
with numerous provisions introduced less than one month ago. Your
constituents deserve the chance to fully weigh on an important
issue they pass so resoundingly before it is demolished by politicians.

(24:53):
It just says thanks for the first time, Joe. He
agrees with the ACLU on that one. Housing affordability says
took but Randy Tucker props over to enquire took another hit.
Kicking off the new year. In the Cincinnati area, asking
rents went higher in January than any other major metro

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era in the country. Median asking rent that would be
the typical list price for an apartment across all apartment
times jump fifteen percent in January compared to the same
month a year ago. This reported by Redfinn, biggest year
over increase in asking rents among the fifty most populous

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US metro areas, pushing the typical monthly rent payment in
the city of Cincinnati to fourteen and twenty dollars up
from twelve to thirty five over the same period. Now
that appropriately time, Joe rents up despite more new rentals
coming online in the local market. Some experts predicting would
soften rent increases because there's simply more supply to keep

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up with demand. But many of the apartments coming on
the market in Cincinnati area and new developments high rent
neighborhoods downtown over the Rhine, for example, which carries higher
rants then while other locations and also provide amenities that
people are looking for, pools, dogs, spas, fitness centers, connective communities.

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Is going to solve all this, though, Joe, just just
wait for it. I'm sure those apartments are going to
build in Hyde Park if that goes through. Yeah, those
will be really affordable, so affordable five thirty six fifty
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Speaker 1 (26:43):
My name is Cark five forty one. If they do
have KRCD talk station, let's go over to the phone
before I getting Stack is stupid. Got Jerry on the line. Jerry,
thanks for calling this morning. A very happy Friday eve
to you.

Speaker 7 (26:58):
Yeah, happy Friday to YouTube. Right, quick question, there's numbers
you gave for the illegal immigrants that were caused that
were that we're paying. There's bank the last census in
twenty twenty three, should three hundred and thirty five million
people in the United States? What would that work out
to per person?

Speaker 1 (27:17):
I'd have to get my calculator out for that one. Man.

Speaker 8 (27:21):
I'm just curious that I don't think.

Speaker 7 (27:22):
The US citizens are actually looking at what that actual
cost is per person. Yeah, we have that could benefit
even more people.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
Well, when when when you when you actually ultimately do
the calculations, you know, it sounds like it's going to
be a big, fat, you know, like ten fifteen thousand
dollars per human in the United States and in the
math usually doesn't work out that way, but you can
do the division. I mean, we're talking about a total
figure of four and fifty one billion, and we have
three hundred and fifty say million people. So I'll just

(27:54):
I have to go to my calculator and just do
the division on that one. But it's an eat, I
don't think.

Speaker 7 (28:00):
I just I just don't think anybody who is looking
at it as the cost per person.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
Too for that.

Speaker 7 (28:06):
And I did you hear there any more billions and
trillions thrown around like it's a like at the dime
and a nickel. I don't think if they actually brought
it down to the individual person, I think it would
make more sense.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
I couldn't agree more. But you know, that's why I
always try to express like a billion is a thousand
stacks of a million. You know, if you walk through
that process, you start realizing how much money you're talking
about here, and it's it's it's I mean, it's it's
like it's like looking at one of those Hubble space
telescope pictures of the universe and seeing all those tiny

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thousands and tens of thousands, if that millions of blips
of light and wreck and noting that each one is
a galaxy, not a star, but a galaxy, and it
just it ends up frying your mind out. That's the
kind of dollars we're talking about here, Jerry.

Speaker 7 (28:57):
I just I'd love that what that number is. We
use people always complaining about, you know, how much are
going to cost? And how much does that cost? Well,
how much does that costing each individual person? Eggs are
expensive right now, but how many eggs? How many dozen
eggs could I buy with the money if the government
gave that to me instead of one of the league.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Lands twelve thousand, eighty five dollars.

Speaker 7 (29:20):
Per person, And that's per year that we're spending.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
On that on that's actually the four hundred and fifty
one billion dollars cited in the information from the House
and Homeland Security Committee that since twenty twenty one, So
that is not an annualized cost, annual cost one hundred
and eighty two billion dollars with sixty six or one
hundred and eighty two billion with sixty six and a

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half billion coming from the FEDS and one hundred and
fifteen points six billion coming from the various state tax payers.
So but you know what, I imagine every American since
twenty twenty one, they would prefer getting a check for
twelve hundred and eighty fi five dollars of knowing it's going
to illegal immigrants who really aren't legally supposed to be here.

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Right right there, you.

Speaker 7 (30:07):
Go, all right, I appreciate it from Atlanta, and we'll
be listening the rest of there.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
Oh fantastic, man, that's cool, thanks for calling. You get
the biggest kick out of that what Dave's got this
morning day, Welcome to the Morning Show, and Happy Friday
eve to you.

Speaker 5 (30:23):
Good morning.

Speaker 8 (30:25):
I am usually sending messages under the name of Dave
the tax Nerd, because they really have a tax nerd
with a master of the taxation and experiences contempt to organization.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
Oh yeah, I hope I don't.

Speaker 8 (30:36):
Bore the hell out everybody. But there is actually a
volume published that lists, if they so, Catholic charities and
it says, thick volume of the demo organization. The Catholic
Church generally can afford very good experts on their subjects,
so usually they don't get themselves in a whole lot

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of trouble. There's a pignant church.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Well, i'll tell you what in the interesting time, boil
the point down. Just boil it down.

Speaker 8 (31:05):
Okay. Generally exempt organizations cannot conduct illegal activities. They're okay,
So if they are, that's an issue. Uh. The advocacy
of issues that's been greatly weakened by court case of
the seventies called Big Bomber RAG has allowed a lot

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more propaganda than it's usually in the rags. But if
they are actually conducting illegal activities, we're back to having
issues with exempt organization similar to the whole Tea party mess.
You you'll see some charities that are connected to a

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church that are not the church. So, uh, this is
deep in the weeks, but I think we're in for
some more fun with the illegal activities with illegal.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yes, yes, I agree completely, And these
things will take time to work out. Maybe Justice Department
needs to do an investigation of the FBI needs to
follow the money trail. We need to investigate what the
advocacy has been done on and whether they're facilitating actually
bringing in illegal immigrants which may violate laws. I agree

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with all that, but you got you gotta wait and
net and it takes time, and it takes effort. At
least this administration is in trying to apply the time
and effort necessary to ferret it out. Thanks for calling
tax Nerd Dave, Good to hear from you. Is for
five forty seven for five Kcity Talk station fifty five KRC.

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Emergency Communications Center Responder program, and Ken's going to enlighten
us on the details on that coming up in about
a half hour MAB forty minutes. Spot in the next hour.
Let us see here. Maybe Pete calling in right now,

(34:03):
but in the meantime, stack is stupid. Leading off with Nathaniel,
note the name Nathaniel morin California Advisor to the Federal
Ministry or Canadian rather Advisor's important that it's Canada because
they have different laws there. Canadian Advisor to the Federal
Ministry of Women apparently released a statement defending I'm going

(34:27):
to say his participation in women's marathons and other running
competitions as a transgender yet biological male. So it's a
guy claiming to be a chick, referencing Donald Trump's recent
executive order of preventing trans athletes from competing in women's

(34:49):
in girls' sports. In the statement quote, I am aware
that my participation in so many competitions will be talked
about because of my medical history. The situation in the
United States, and the elements of certain politicians do not
help either. He she whatever you jar your own conclusions,
went on to say, with all due respect to level

(35:10):
one level, I compete at amateur recreational levels. Specifically the
state of scientific research in the field for the amateur
recreation level and the fact that I have undergone a
medical transition, I consider that I have the legitimacy to
participate in the right category unless the law prohibits me

(35:33):
from doing so. Let us remember that in Canada no
law prohibits it, and for other countries, I will comply
with local laws in force when it applies. Trans folks
only want to fully integrate as their authentic self and

(35:54):
be happy in our society. Well it's all about you, then,
isn't it. That's not about the other girls that you
have advantage over Look. Look right here, we have an
illustration of that morin. She came in, he came. She
came in first place in a five kilometer event on
February fourth, time, twenty five thirty two, earning the title

(36:14):
of quote fastest female close quote across all age categories
runner up. An actual girl in the ten to twelve
age category who did a twenty six oh eight would
have come in first place had this more in we'll
call her moron not competed. Had she competed in the

(36:38):
men's category, the transgender runner would have come in tenth
place among all male participants. Huh huh, but it's all
about him or Two men from Colorad arrested up. They

(37:00):
allegedly tried to smuggle tens of thousands of dollars worth
of methan, fetamine, and tobacco into a federal prison in
Louisiana by launching the contraband over a security wall using
a professionally manufactured cannon. Why are you doing that? Professionally

(37:21):
manufactured is in quotes Jose Francisco Herreramunez eighteen, Angel Gonzales
Gutierrez nineteen taken into custody, charged with one count each
of attempting to induce contract introduce contraband into a penal
institution one count each of attempting to distribute meth amfetamine.
News relaates from the Sheriff's office there so the two

(37:42):
suspects were attempting to smuggle in eleven one hundred and
twelve thousand dollars worth of tobacco and almost ninety thousand
dollars worth a methan fetamine using a cannon. Sheriff Off
said two suspects, both of whom are from Greely, Colorado,
had planned to use the Canada launch the items over

(38:02):
a security fence into the group's into the grounds of
the federal prison. The cannon, which was propelled by compressed air,
had a range of shooting items more than three hundred
and fifty feet. Sheriff told local news there. The two
suspects attempted to get the drugs into the facility. It
wasn't successful, according to the sheriff, thanks to a very

(38:23):
observant deputy, he was able to stop it before they
were able to get the drugs into the prison. That
much meth would have just been devastating in that population, said.
The cannon they recovered was not a homemade gadget. He said,
this was something not this was not something that was homemade.
It was bought. It was professionally manufactured, and it's very powerful.

(38:45):
Five point fifty five bitch five karosity talk station. Yeah,
they could have used the drum. So they keep saying.
You know, the border wall that Trump wants to build
may very well deter and keep out the flow of
human beings. But you know, modern drones these days, you
can get quite a bit of meth over the just
by why in it? Five fifty six don't go away?

(39:07):
More to talk about plus Can Cober at six point
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It's time, Hey, six or six to fifty five kerr
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the FOP and the firefighters filing a complaint regarding Cincinnati
Emergency Communications Center Responder program. We'll learn about that together

(39:43):
at the bottom of this hour. Fast forward one hour.
Ohio State Representative Jennifer Gross joins the program to talk
about Ohio Medicaid Committee, and we will ask whether there's
gonna be any changes to the system described with being
filled with sort of fraud, waste, and abuse. Anyhow, how
much money is going out the door that shouldn't go
out the door here in Ohio. Don't know if she
has the answer to the question, but we'll certainly pose

(40:04):
it to her. Donovan and the Americans for Prosperity fast
forward to seven thirty Protecting Prosperity and the Trump tax cuts.
They got that event at the farm coming up where
the Americans for Prosperity is footing the bill for your
dinner and explaining the legislation and talking about here in Ohio.
Michael Walsh got a book coming up at eight o five,

(40:26):
A Rage to Conquer Twelve Battles that change the course
of Western History. And then, of course it being Thursday,
every Thursday at eight thirty, we are blessed to hear
from I heard me the aviation expert Jay Ratliffe. And
let's turn to the phones five one, three, seven, four, nine,
fifty eight hundred and eighty two to three talk Pete,
thanks for calling this morning, and a happy Thursday to you.

Speaker 8 (40:44):
Thanks Brian.

Speaker 10 (40:46):
As all as ironic that the Biden administration was given
hundreds of millions to the Catholic Church while simultaneously having
that FBI intil trade them forgotten knows what reasons.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I just want to know where
all these anti church and state people are who always
come out of the woodwork when a church ends up
getting a grant or received a payment from a state
or federal government. And obviously right now there are a
bunch of you know, religious organizations getting heaploads of money

(41:23):
from the American taxpayer merely because they are assisting illegal
immigrants while at the same time fulfilling their Christian mission.
I mean, you know, that's kind of the point I
was making. It's good marketing for them. They don't go
around explaining that all the money that they're spending on
the illegal immigrants and these goods and services are providing
to them comes from the American taxpayer as opposed to

(41:44):
the Catholic Church contributions in the offering plate. Just contemplate it,
that's all. Just you know, I mean, I find many
of the arguments that are made about separation of church
and state to be posterous, and there isn't a direct
support of the church. It isn't the establishment of a religion.

(42:07):
We don't have a theocracy here. If they're doing something
that the government wants done, just like non religious organizations,
and they I think they should have a place at
the table to receive money as well. So I'm not
really adopting this theory that I'm talking about. I'm just
calling out those who regularly call out or the in

(42:27):
file lawsuits to stop that type of thing from happening.
Silence is deafening. I thought this is rather comical, of course,
the Democrats pulling their hair out over Elon Musk and
his efforts with the Department of Government Efficiency to ferret
out fraud, waste and abuse and stop programs from getting

(42:48):
money and all that kind of thing, and they don't
have anything but screaming and yelling. And there are a
lot of folks just making this point. James Carville the
other day was talking about how miserable the Democrats look
and sound and making these arguments against these cuts, defending
the indefensible u On Jesse Waters. The other day, Dan

(43:11):
Turantine apparently Democratic advisor asked about democrats strategy to vocally
criticize Elon Musk's efforts. The number one thing in politics
is you want to respect the people, he said, listen
to them and solve their problems. We're failing the common
sense test. Rather than saying, hey, you know, some of

(43:32):
what they're finding, anybody in the right mind would say
we should end it. Instead, we scream about everything, and
so when we find stuff that, in our opinion, probably
is worthy of discussion, the average voter says, forget it,
and all you do is scream no, and they're crazy.

Speaker 5 (43:49):
True.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
John Lovett, former Obama speechwriter, Here's what he said. Honestly,
some of this is pretty annoying because it's some of
the stuff we should have done. We didn't know how
you could do some of this, referring to the cuts
that Musk and Doge are doing right now. I don't

(44:13):
know if being a former Obama speech trib he give
him any credibility, but we didn't know you could do
some of this. Is that really? I mean's he's serious
when he says that we all knew the government is slow,
We all know the government can be inefficient. He said,
we all know that the bureaucracy can be bloated. We
all worked in the f wording White House. We tried

(44:34):
to reorganize the government. We tried to find the efficiency.
It's hard to do, said John frou Favreau, another Obama
speech writer, sharing love of its frustrations. How about that, No,
it's not hard to do. Musk is proving it right now.
I love this Wall Street Journal article headline countering what

(44:57):
these morons said. DOGE is searching for wasteful spending. It
isn't hard to find. Every year, they point out, agency
reports posted online document billions in improper payments, which include fraud,
but also under payments, duplicate payments, payments to ineligible recipients

(45:17):
for ineligible goods or services, court to the Government Accountability Office.
They also include include correctly paid amounts that didn't follow regulations,
such as contracts missing required signatures. So they're tracking this
stuff and they have been for quite some time. They
point the most recent fiscal year ending September of last year,

(45:38):
the agencies that reported their improper payments identified one hundred
and forty nine billion, which amounts about three point seven
percent of payments from the four point one trillion. Laid
out reports cover a large chunk of total government spending,
which the CBO congratulate budget A Budget office puts its

(45:59):
six point seventy five trillion dollars last fiscal year. Last year,
they write more than ninety percent of improper payments were
over payments. Far back as two thousand and two, Congress
required agencies to estimate and report improper payments every year.
The low strengthened in twenty ten, twenty thirteen, and twenty twenty.

(46:22):
The estimates come from statistical samples of payments that the
agencies check in detail, using methods approved by independent inspector
general for each agency, like Todd Zenzer used to be
inspector in general. So what do they figure out? I mean, here,
here's the numbers are right here, Medicare three point one

(46:42):
seven billion, Medicate thirty one point one billion, Medicare advantage
nineteen point one billion. I could go on and read
all of them, and every single department has already identified
statistically that they pay out way too much money, countering
what those other clowns said that oh, we wanted to
do it, we just don't know how really engage in

(47:07):
accounting practices be a little bit more mindful for the
money goes out the door, Maybe require the appropriate coding
on it, Maybe follow appropriate procedures so when it comes
time to do an audit Pentagon, we'll know exactly what
you spent the money on, which presently we don't. They

(47:33):
just pay lip service. Over the years. It's a campaign
talking point. Yes we're gonna fare it out Fraudway's and
Abusess and no they're not. They're not gonna do damn
thing about it. Finally, finally, we have an administration who
actually is making good on what they promised to do,
and it's blowing everyone's minds. Wait a second, he's doing

(47:57):
what he's doing what he told he was gonna do,
and he's I don't know, everybody listens to politicians on
the campaign trail, goes yeah right, I hear you, Sure
you are sure, you are right? Whatever? Yeah sure, And
actually for I think but like the first time in
anybody's life, we have a politician that is making good

(48:19):
on the pledges made on the campaign trail and doing
it in remarkable speed. I mean, who can argue that
Trump and his administration haven't accomplished more than Joe Biden
did in four years, five hundred and some odd number

(48:41):
of days of which he was on the beach or
staring and grabbing it, non existent butterflies flying around his head,
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It's gonna go up to twenty two today with a
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Speaker 4 (51:08):
Chuck Ingram on fifty five krs. The talk station.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
Six twenty Happy Thursday five one three seven fifty five
hundred eight hundred eighty two three talk and I go
to the phone. It's got a couple of callers online
and I start with west Saie Jim. Good to hear
from you, Jim, my friend.

Speaker 7 (51:26):
Good morning, sir.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
How are you? I'm doing pretty good except for my
right eye because I had that clock home a laser
surgery yesterday and it's just bugging the hell out of me.

Speaker 5 (51:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (51:35):
The wife had that done. Man, she had one done
and then the other one they gave her a big
problem with. So she's not in line.

Speaker 5 (51:42):
For that yet.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
Oh wow, I've got to have the other one done
next Thursday. So I'm not going to be on the
radio because they scheduled at seven forty five, so I
can't can't be here, and.

Speaker 11 (51:50):
They do the needle poking in the eye thing.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
Now it's just a laser they blast. I mean she
must have blasted like fifty fifty little bursts of this laser.
So they just to help them.

Speaker 11 (52:03):
Not fun, not fun at all, I guess.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
No, it didn't. It went by quickly, it didn't hurt.
He felt like just the tiniest, tiniest little prick. But
they said, you know, you may have some numbness or
some pain and you know, something like along an aspirin level.
And I did take my aspron this morning, but it's
watery and I can't. I mean, I lose my focus
pretty easily right now because of the just the weird

(52:25):
reality of what's going on. Sorry to go down that road,
but I'm just struggling with you asked how I was doing.

Speaker 11 (52:31):
I'll give you the reason I called, because I know
you're short on time.

Speaker 5 (52:34):
You got another caller.

Speaker 11 (52:35):
Today is turning day for the petitions for mayor, and
four o'clock is when they have to have them in
and then we're done. That's who that's who's going to run.
From what I understand, it's only going to be three people.
Even though eight people pull petitions, I don't think the
other one's got them. But the thing I want to
tell you about was that kind of ironic was that

(52:57):
a person was out collecting them yesterday, uh signatures? Was
Mayor Purval.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
Collecting signatures?

Speaker 11 (53:06):
Yes, sir, he was out collecting signatures. So I don't
know if he was running scared, or he's doing a
photo op or or whatever. You know, some people pay
to get their signatures done. You know they pay a
group of people. Oh yeah, yeah, sure, that kind of deal.
And I know one of them that is doing it.

(53:28):
But you know, like I said, he was out collected
the things yesterday, So I think that's kind of ironic,
rather interesting duck. So anyway, hopefully you know Corey's are
good and he gets he gets on the ballot, and
I know Joe will have him on here real soon.
He was on your sister station yesterday and he told

(53:52):
me that he got a giant boost. He went out
to the Hyde Park Kroger's and he said he had
a giant boost and people coming over and.

Speaker 8 (53:57):
Signing his petitions.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
Oh good.

Speaker 11 (54:00):
So he's one of them that's not paying people to
get him done.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
Understand that. And he was on my program I think first.

Speaker 11 (54:07):
Yes he was, Yes he was. And it took your
sister station a week. So I'm kind of anxious and
glad that you guys got him on first. Right out
of the last thing is you can still go down
early this morning to his coffee shop and sign the petition.
So I'm merging people if they live in the city.

(54:28):
And even though this is not a democratic basically station,
a Democrat can sign those petitions. So it's not party
I guess affiliated or whatever, it's open.

Speaker 8 (54:41):
It's open.

Speaker 11 (54:41):
Anybody can sign those petitions.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Well, that's great, and I wish him all the luck
in the world. I mean, at least in the final analysis,
and he will benefit the process by interjecting some alternative
thoughts into the conversation. That's what we need down there,
all right, Sure, thanks Jim, appreciate the propping them up.
And hopefully he gets in the race. That'd be fantastic.
Let's see what George has got. George, thanks for holding there.

(55:05):
Welcome to the program.

Speaker 7 (55:08):
Good morning, bron. I was just thinking that's we're deporting
all these you know, low skilled workers, and we're freeing
up all these bureaucrats. Do you think we could possibly
train them to come up to those low skilled jobs
kicking fruit vegetables?

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Come on, George, you know those are jobs Americans won't do.
I'm from the answers. Of course they could take a
position picking fruit. Of course they could. I'm sure they'll choose.

Speaker 4 (55:41):
Not to do that.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
But if you have a college education and that education
doesn't provide you with a you know, all fundamental bases
to do something that society wants and needs, then you
have to find employment in some other field. And of
course that is one option. Just can't imagine them doing it,
but I like the idea. Six point forty five with

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Why?

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Because it needs to be done.

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Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
Six thirty. Happy Thursday, Brian Thomas, always interested and happy
when FLP President Ken Kober joins the program. Fraternal Order
Peace Chapter sixty nine, representing the CINCINNTI Police Department. But
talk about today what they and the firefighters are concerned about,
which is the Cincinnati What is It? Community Responder Program? Ken,

(01:00:47):
Welcome back to the morning show. Good to hear from you.

Speaker 14 (01:00:50):
Thank good morning, Brian, Thanks for having me all right let's.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Start with what is the community Responder program? Like, this
is something set up by city hall or by the
by city council.

Speaker 14 (01:01:01):
Yeah, so this program is actually developed by the communications
director emergency communications director, and the idea behind it is
to basically take civilians that are going to answer calls
for service instead of having things that traditionally.

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
The police do, like calls in the nine to one one.

Speaker 14 (01:01:20):
Yeah, so when the call comes in from nine to
one to one, then the communications director has instructed the
dispatchers to instead of dispatching the police, they're going to
dispatch the civilians instead of the police for certain runs.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
Well, that sounds like it might come with inherent dangers
for people who are not trained law enforcement professionals.

Speaker 14 (01:01:45):
It's been proven already to be rather disastrous. Oh really,
especially for the citizens.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Yeah yeah, okay, and these are employees of the city
that are doing this, that's correct. Okay, So paid employees
from the city are responding to what other would have
been a traditional police nine response. He said, it's been
a disaster. Can you give my listeners and me an
illustration of maybe where something went sort of sideways on
the citizen.

Speaker 8 (01:02:12):
Sure.

Speaker 14 (01:02:12):
So one of the things that they're doing is they're
having them respond to auto accidents and instead of their
theory was well, we're going to lighten the load on
the police. However, what they're doing is they're showing up
going to a crash scene and telling them well, if
you want to report, just go to the police district.
But what we've seen so far is happening is two

(01:02:33):
particular egregious instances is where they showed up a woman
who was visibly pregnant, I think she was like eight
months pregnant, was injured in an auto accident, and instead
of calling for an ambulance, he said, we'll just go
to the police district and have a police report filed out.
That's what you want to do. So you have an
injured pregnant woman shows up at the police district and
they're like what is this. Another one was a guy

(01:02:57):
shows up at the district. So yeah, these civilian people
told us to just come here and follow this police report.
He goes, but I'm kind of confused because the woman
that hit me was visibly drunk.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
There you go, they let her drive away, Just getting
ready to ask that they had been trained in recognizing
impaired driving. Do they know what to look for. Can
they Can they administer the traditional test to determine whether
someone is impaired behind the wheel or are they just
going to overlook something like that that's concerning.

Speaker 14 (01:03:28):
Well, sure it is. Yeah, I mean the liability that
the city's assuming by having one of their employees just
let somebody that either didn't recognize it or is still
equipped to recognize these kind of things, they let them
drive away, drive away. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
Oh my word, Well, I guess I got a little
burning question going on in the back of my head here.
If you had a full contingent of police officers, in
other words, if you weren't behind in numbers by how
many of you down now like three hundred or so,
now we're down one hundred and forty, one hundred and forty. Well,
if you had those one hundred and forty officers now
working and with the police, with the actively with the

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police department, would this would these community responders even be necessary?
I mean, aren't they supposed to? And this sounds like
a band aid solution they came up with to avoid
hiring more police officers.

Speaker 14 (01:04:18):
That's exactly what we suspect is going on.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
Well, and that's where your union contract comes in right.

Speaker 14 (01:04:26):
Well, sure, you know the collective bargaining agreement that we
have says that the work that is traditionally of the police,
if they want someone else to do that work, then
it has to be negotiated. So I sent a cease
and desist order last August when they came up with
this plan and told them that if this is something
that you want to do, you must first negotiate it
with the FOP. They just turned a blind eye to

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Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
Six thirty eighth about krc DE talk station Brian Thomas
with f OP President Ken Kobe. We're talking about this
greater since a community responder program where they send civilians
out on what otherwise we'd be normally a police run
after someone calls in the complaint. I really troubled by
that whole automobile accident thing because you anticipated exactly where
I was going, because it could be an OVI situation.

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Are these are these citizen responders? Are they trained on
any level? Ken?

Speaker 5 (01:07:45):
Do you know?

Speaker 8 (01:07:46):
So?

Speaker 14 (01:07:46):
They're given some kind of bare bones training. I think
the training was like six weeks total to cover a
myriad of things. But one thing that they're not equipped
to handle his defending themselves if they get into a
rather violent situation. Yeah. Across the country, we hear all

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the time about officers that show up to a minor
auto accident they get ambushed. I was gonna say, yeah,
they no means to defend themselves.

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
You quite often situations can devolve from the mundane to
the violent. I mean, people can just kind of lose
their wits on a moment's notice. So so these citizen
responders are themselves maybe in peril. Uh, let me ask
you this. Do they wear body cameras?

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
Ken?

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
No, of course not.

Speaker 14 (01:08:37):
Why would they need to do that. That's that's just
reserved for the police.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
Do they have radios so they can call in for
backup with more citizens to show up if there's a problem.

Speaker 14 (01:08:48):
Right exactly? And that's that's the other part of this.
If they get into a situation with that they're ill
equipped to handle and they come over screaming on the radio.
Now you have the police that are going to be
driving lights and sirens at high speech trying to get
there to protect somebody that has no way to protect themselves,
and it's only putting the police in even more danger.

Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
I guess I have to ask this sort of out loud.
Did the city ever contemplate any of these problems when
they shove this thing through? Do they consult with the
police department? And I know this supplies to the firefighters,
because the firefighters Union apparently is a little myfed about
this as well.

Speaker 14 (01:09:23):
Well. I can only assume that they did not, or
they just didn't care what the response was. But you're right,
I mean, that's the same way the fire department's now
following suit with the FFP and they're filing unfair labor
practice themselves.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
Do you have any idea how much these citizen responders
are paid?

Speaker 14 (01:09:42):
I looked at. I think their average salary is somewhere
between sixty and ninety thousand a year.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
Holy crap, I mean that's you're in police wage territory,
there are you not?

Speaker 14 (01:09:58):
Yeah, they're getting close in this. This is this is
the biggest problem. Aside from the safety aspect. They're really
not lightening the load for the police because they show
up to an auto accident, they don't investigate it, and
they look at the people that are involved and go, hey,
just show up at the district. But here's the problem.
So you have two people that are involved in an
auto accident, they say, hey, just show up. You go

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to your local police district file report. They're only telling
one person that they need to go, which, of course,
then only one person shows up and you only got
one side of the story. You don't have the other
person's information. But let me just say for a second
that they actually tell both people to go to a
police district. And you have one person that lives on
the west side, they go to District three. You have
a person that lives on the east side and they
go to District two. How do you merge those police reports?

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And the answer is you can't. Well so you have
two different police reports going on, and you know the same,
the facts are different. It's an absolute disservice to the
people that live, work, and play in Cincinnati that they
have to even deal with this kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
Well do they issue citations.

Speaker 14 (01:11:03):
No, they don't even investigate the crash. They just show
up and say.

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
That's a pretty valuable piece of information for someone who's
gonna make an insurance claim that guy hit me, he
owes me and needs to pay me back for my
out of pocket responsibilities under my autobile insurance. Or if
you don't have any for the damage done by the accident,
Oh my god, my neck hurts, I've got medical bills. Now,

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all these things become critical questions in an automobile accident,
even if it doesn't evolve into violence, and they're not
in a position to issue a citation or make a
determination as the responsibility. Oh great, then you're never going
to get one. Sure, this is the most ill conceited Well,
I can't say I've ever heard of, because we all

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know things from government. We can go down and spend
hours and hours talking about stupidity, you know, and I
guess one of them is going to get hurt someday too,
and that's going to be a real problem.

Speaker 14 (01:12:03):
There's no doubt. Yeah, that's so me looking at it
from the human side of this. You're notwithstanding the legal side.
They're going to get somebody hurt. They're going to get
somebody killed, whether it's a citizen, whether it's one of
these community responders. And that's just something that it's going
to happen. It's inevitable.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
That's a shame. Now where is it in terms of
I know you sent a season desist order to stop
this program from going through. It went through anyway. I
guess they're actively using this program right now.

Speaker 14 (01:12:32):
It's correct.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
So what's the next step for the union for the
Police and Firefighters Union in this process?

Speaker 14 (01:12:39):
So we filed the unfair labor practice with the State
Employment Relations Board. They've investigated it and they've ordered us
to go to mediation. So next month I'll be going
up to Columbus and we'll be trying to mediate the situation.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
All right, Well, and if the mediation doesn't work, because
you're not bound by any mediation unless you both mutually
agreed to resolve it under the terms of the mediation,
do you go to arbitration then, or do you end
up in front of a judge.

Speaker 14 (01:13:09):
Well, to go back to the state Employment Relations Board
for them to investigate further and decide how they want
to get it resolved.

Speaker 1 (01:13:17):
All right, Well, I hope they resolved to point out
to the city, since saying this sounds like a really
bad idea. Do you know where the funds came from
to hire these people?

Speaker 14 (01:13:28):
This is just comes out of the city.

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
The general fund. All right.

Speaker 14 (01:13:36):
They've got some really nice vehicles too.

Speaker 1 (01:13:37):
I mean, yeah, we can't get we can't get.

Speaker 14 (01:13:39):
New police cars, but they've got an electric Mustang. They've
got some nice Chevy Silverados. And that's certainly a little
bit of rub on the police as well as they
are driving cars that have two hundred and fifty thousand
miles on them and they're going but these people have
brand new cars. That's kind of neat.

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
Well, and do you know how many of them there
are before we part company it?

Speaker 5 (01:14:00):
Ken?

Speaker 14 (01:14:01):
I think there's like a half dozen so far so far, Yeah,
so far?

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
Wow. Well, this just sounds like stupid all across it.
And I hope for some reason this does violate the
terms of your collective bargaining agreement so we can put
it into this program and maybe save lives and also
help people resolve their insurance claims during automobile accidents. Uh Ken,
I feel for you, man, keep up the great work
you're doing on behalf of the police department, and God

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bless all of the members of the Cincinnati Police Department
for what you do each and every day.

Speaker 14 (01:14:34):
Sure, well, thanks, Brian, appreciate you having me.

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talking about Medicaid and Ohio Medicaid Committee. Before that, though
having a little bit of shot and for it this morning,
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I don't like government subsidies for them. And without the
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recalled two hundred and nine battery electric trucks because of fires.
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though its sales price was still twice as much as
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especially amid higher interest rates. California regulators in the Biden
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Critics say industrial policy is picking winners and looters losers,
but where are the winners? Six fifty six took away
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news in Donald and Neal on protecting prosperity and the
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(01:23:56):
it's always a pleasure talking with you. Thanks for being
on the program this morning.

Speaker 15 (01:24:00):
Thank you, Ryan. Good morning.

Speaker 1 (01:24:02):
So the elected officials in Columbus, I always refer to
them as like hurting cats. It seems to me that Republicans,
you think Republicans would play nicer and cooperate more together,
but sadly, we don't see a whole lot of that.
It always just seems to be a mystery to me.
But moving away from that, and I don't want to
put opinions or conclusions into your head or mouth, but

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there are lawmakers are considering repealing the Medicaid expansion, a
medicaid expansion which I suppose occurred back in twenty fourteen,
and they're saying they need to do that. We don't
have the money here in the state of Ohio unless
the federal money that comes in in support of the
medicaid program covers ninety percent of those that were at

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that enter the system under the expansion. Do I have
that accurate?

Speaker 15 (01:24:50):
Well, that we want to get rid of it, maybe
not accurate. The fact that the federal government pays ninety
cents of every dollar for it. Absolutely, that's why it
was so attractive when Kasik pressured the people who by
and large did not want medicaid expansions.

Speaker 1 (01:25:08):
So, yes, you got that correct, And isn't is it
medicaid or Medicare. That is one of the biggest line
items in the state.

Speaker 15 (01:25:14):
Budget, Medicaid. So remember that Medicare is a federal program
that were required to go on. And then Medicaid is
an entitlement program, and that's what we call them because
you are entitled to receive these benefits under traditional medicaid,
you are entitled.

Speaker 8 (01:25:33):
So if you're.

Speaker 15 (01:25:34):
Blind, disabled, elderly, pregnant mom who is low income, pregnant
mom and a low income child, that was traditional medicaid.
And in fact, I'm the chair of the Medicaid Committee,
So we're trying to protect our traditional medicaid group because
I think as a society, that's the part that we

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pretty much as Ohioans, we believe those people will need
to be protected, and so we're looking at that group
to be sure that we try to maintain it's you know,
we need to have like Civic Conda Civic Medicaid and
not Cadillact Medicaid because what I see and what I'm
noting is in some cases and those people on Medicaid

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may not always agree, but you and your private insurance
probably are dealing with things that you that you do
and wouldn't have to face on Medicaid. For instance, a
child on Medicaid gets mental care and vision, so we
don't offer that on a traditional medical plan through your

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traditional insurance, so and mental health through our medicaid. A
lot of mental health providers try to get Medicaid because
we reimburse higher than traditional medicine, and sometimes traditional medicine
makes you pay cash for your psychiatric health or mental
health care. So there's there are some good things about
our medicaid system. The challenge, like any program, is you know,

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our number one expense on our SNAP, which is our
food stamp program, is soda pop. So the challenge is
what's required, right, like what is compassionate, what is loving?
What is and is what's compassionate to the taxpayer. Also,
we have to not throw out compassion to the medicaid
population and then be uncompassionate or dispassionate to the person

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paying the bill, which is the middle class. I mean,
you're earning eighty eight thousand family of four, which which
is not high on the hog. You don't qualify for Medicaid,
but you're paying all these benefits. So yeah, finding a
balance is important.

Speaker 3 (01:27:43):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:27:43):
Prior to the expansion, I mean this group, the expanded group,
in what way was it expanded? Were the income levels
done away with? Or how do we end up with
this many people getting on the program? I think what
it jumped a sizeable percentage after the expansion went in.

Speaker 15 (01:28:01):
Well, it's a challenge because you either do it all
or none. You can't do partial expansions. So the agreement
was you expand and so the states said, well, gosh,
we only have to pay ten cents, and the federal
government's going to pay ninety cents, which you and I
can have a long discussion about autonomy and sovereignty and

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why would we take you know, those golden handcuffs from
the federal government. Right, but it was even under a
Republican governor CASEIIC and in many cases the states that
yeah and the people that are expanding are under government
right now Republican governors. So but anyway, so they said

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they kind of lured us in with that. Then the
population qualification is if you're earning one hundred and thirty
three percent or less of poverty level, and you know,
and so people got on the challenges. There are some
and there aren't tall. There are a lot of people
that are working that are making under the minimum, but

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there are a lot of really good jobs out there
right now, and some people not all. I don't want
to have a lot of hate mail to my box,
but there are some people who purposely don't work above
a limit because they don't want to lose their Medicaid benefits.
And so we're looking at that. And right now you
may have seen yesterday that the federal government is talking

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about cutting eight hundred and eighty billion dollars of Medicaid
benefits from the sed They're not going to tell the
states they have to, but what that means is you, Brian,
get to pay the difference. So if the federal government
stops spending ninety cents of the dollar, then ohilends will
pick up another ten twenty thirty forty cents, which is

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a lot of money. That we call the people that
were the expansion group eight. These are people that are
not making enough money right now to qualify for healthcare.
I mean to to not they're not making they're making
as little money as possible to be able to qualify,

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and or they're working really hard and they can't make
enough money to qualify for insurance.

Speaker 1 (01:30:19):
Okay, and I understand that component, but you know, if
you add up all the government benefits that are available
to someone, I think you have to make at least
like forty thousand dollars a year to cover what the
government will give you for free. So there's a real
disincentive to work there. But we used to have, at
least I thought we had in place work requirements that
you know, you had to show some initiative in some

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effort to gain employment or go to continuing educlation classes
or education classes so you could obtain employment. Is there
anything remotely close to that now and are they considering
something along those lines?

Speaker 15 (01:30:51):
Great question Brian. We had one that we had submitted
right before Biden was chosen to be president, and what
happened was the Biden administration stopped at So we have
not had work requirements for the last four years. The
legislature as well as the Medicaid the Ohio Department of

(01:31:14):
Medicaid through buyer requirement of the legislature will filed for
a waiver. So that's the other thing that's really I
think that I really want your listeners and you to hear,
is that most of the changes we make to our
medicaid system, a lot of them, we have to go
back to the federal government because we've taken this money
and asked their permission to do it. So those golden

(01:31:37):
handcuffs came with you have to provide this, this and this,
you must do this, this and this, and if we
want to change anything, we have to go back to
the federal government and say, pretty please, pretty please, can
we change our program? And so that's what I've been asking,
you know, my congressman and Warren Davidson, as well as
our Senator Bernie Marino, and I haven't had the conversation

(01:31:59):
with the newest Senator Houston, but that we need more
flexibility at the state level to be able to manage
our program locally. So we filed for work requirements in December.
We said we are, we had the intent to file,
and then when medicate. Oh and here's the beautiful thing.
Think about this. So the legislature says we want a waiver,

(01:32:24):
I the legislature have to go through the department chair
and in that case it's the Ohio Department of Medicaid
director have her right the waiver and she negotiates with
the federal government. So I have an unelected bureaucrat negotiating
with the federal government for what the legislature is saying

(01:32:46):
needs to be done. Now, there's typically a fairly good
back and forth and relationship there. But why we have
to go through bureaucrats to get what we want right,
And that's in everything. So if we change, for instance,
we take soda out of the SNAP program, we have
to go back to the federal government. We have to

(01:33:08):
ask them we would like to remove this from our
food program. You know, and I think people need to
understand it's not just Jennifer Gross, chair of the first
Ohio House Medicaid Committee in our history, she can do
all this. No, I mean we can come up with
ideas for that. But let me get back to you

(01:33:29):
had asked me about some of these people the group
aide are healthy, able bodied people that can work. These
are not people that have disability. They're not blind, they're
not elderly, they're not developmentally delayed teenagers. These are all
people that are able bodied. So we have now submitted

(01:33:50):
a work requirement for that group that is UH and
it's changing right now. It's in a more state. But
you have to work a minimum of twenty hours a week,
or go to school twenty hours a week, or be
taking care of an elderly parent twenty hours a week,
and that has to be confirmed. And then I believe

(01:34:14):
we also have a drug rehab component in there as well.
A lot of our group bates do have, you know,
addiction issues. So those people we won't be able to,
you know, really work with as much.

Speaker 1 (01:34:27):
But you can get them into a program that might
ultimately help them by helping them kick the addiction. It's
a vehicle to get them clean. Jennifer, I want to
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Speaker 1 (01:36:50):
Seven twenty fifty five KRC detalk station by Thomas talking
with the High State Representative Jennifer Gross, member of the
Ohio Medicaid Committee. Reaching out through the securities process. You
got to go through to ask the federal government for
a waiver for a work requirement that seems just preposterous,
but you explained it. It's there. You got to live
with it. But at least you have an administration that's

(01:37:12):
probably going to grant you the waiver that we're looking for, Jennifer,
is that your expectation from the Trump administration.

Speaker 15 (01:37:18):
Absolutely, And in my third term in a term limited
Ohio Legislature, let me tell you something, having lived under
the Biden administration, I'm still getting used to this winning.
They're like, what, like, they're probably not, I mean, Biden
rejected it.

Speaker 11 (01:37:34):
This time.

Speaker 15 (01:37:35):
We expect they'll accept it. So our job is to
make it strong, as strong as possible. We can always
amend it if we go, oh, we should have done that,
or we see Florida did this and we need to
do that. But Brian, do you mind if I talk
to you. I want the people to understand that are
listening the cost of this program to them, the taxpayer.
It's one thing to have people come to me. You

(01:37:56):
can't take these people. And let's talk about how much
of our budget goes to this program. Do you mind? No,
so in state spending alone, when we don't add the
thirty percent hear me, Well, approximately thirty percent of the
Ohio budget comes from the federal government. So when people

(01:38:17):
tell me our whole entire budget, okay, When people tell me, oh, well,
you know, we need to go to the federal government,
I'm like, okay, you. In order for Ohio to be sovereign,
your legislature needs to stop having our handout saying we'll
take the money from the federal government. Well, jin you know, California,
I'll get it if we I don't care. I think

(01:38:37):
we're Ohio and we should extract ourselves from dependence on
the federal government. Having said that, when without our federal
government spend, meaning without the part that the federal government
puts into our budget. Medicaid is twenty approximately, don't quote
me on all this twenty about twenty seven percent of

(01:38:58):
our entire budget. When it's it's just our house, when
it's just our state. Education is the number one cost
in our state. Our constitution says we will educate children.
Were a rare state that actually has that in our constitution,
but it is the number one spend in the billions. Okay,
So then if you add the federal part into medicaid,

(01:39:22):
the expense of Medicaid in our whole entire operating budget
is fifty point three percent. I have to ask yes,
So I have to ask the listener. You know you're
paying those taxes too, They're just coming from the federal government.
Remember the government makes how much nothing? We make nothing.
Our job is to spend your money wisely, which is

(01:39:43):
why I don't mean to sound harsh, but we cannot
give Cadillac care on Medicaid. That is not I and
honestly unless you have concierge care and all of that.
I don't think anybody in Ohio gets concierge care unless
you're paying up and above and straw for those things.
So I think it's important for the people to understand

(01:40:04):
that the group eight, the healthy body people, when we extended,
they're twenty five percent of our spend and this is
forty seven billion dollars a year. So yeah, So I mean,
let's talk about the money. It's easy to say, well, Jen,
you can't make these people go back to work. Well,

(01:40:25):
the business owners are crying for people. I have factories
that will pay processing lines people. They'll start at twenty
two to twenty three dollars an hour. If you earn
that kind of money, twenty two dollars an hour, twenty
dollars an hour, and you work forty hours a week, Brian,
and you're married to someone who makes twenty twenty five,
you don't qualify.

Speaker 1 (01:40:44):
For Medicaid, but you can get an Obamacare. You can
get an Obamacare policy and get a tax deduction for
it too, if you're in lower income levels for that. Well,
real quick here, I know it's thinking. I got to
ask you about fraud, waste, and abuse. My understanding is
one of the worst states when it comes to spending
and a misspending, I'll call it that generally in the program,

(01:41:05):
Are you doing anything with your committee to get to
the bottom of that and drill down, maybe we can
find some savings on the money going out the door.

Speaker 15 (01:41:13):
We absolutely are our auditor Auditor Favor did an audit
on Medicaid last year and he found when he pulled
a sample of people on Medicaid that twenty six percent
of the sample that we were paying Medicaid costs for
don't live in Ohio.

Speaker 1 (01:41:28):
Oh my god.

Speaker 15 (01:41:30):
So when you find that kind of stuff, because we're
a state that has something called self addest station. So
I know you're an attorney, but what this means is
that if you if I go in and you say
are you on Medicaid? I can say, yep, Brian, I am.
And yet I live in Westchester, and you know I
won't say where I live. I live in a middle
class home. And if I say I have Medicaid, they

(01:41:53):
have to accept that. They don't confirm it. They don't
confirm my address, they don't come from my income level,
none of it. So now we are but we have
to ask for waivers in some of these things. But
we're going to do regular cross checks because and that's
an answer to the auditor's audit. I mean, what more
do I need to say to you? That our auditor

(01:42:13):
found this and what I've found, and it's taken me
And this is why, you know, term limits are not
what everybody thinks they are. It takes us a while
to figure all of this out, and then in eight
years we're gone, but the bureaucrats stay, and so we
get into this huge spend because the bureaucrats keep spending
and I'm not there to be the doge over you know,

(01:42:35):
this system. But what we found is that we found
self attestation. We have self attestation in many areas of
the hospitals. If someone walks in and they're you know,
they have a big gash on their arm and they
say they're medicaid and they bill it to medicaid, we
have to pay simply because the person said they had medicaid.
That self attestation. We have no cross check or we

(01:42:57):
don't check lottery winning, we don't check, we don't check birthday,
we don't you know.

Speaker 1 (01:43:02):
That's insane, that's absolutely insane, and that welcomes all kinds
of fraud and that figure is mind boggling, mind boggling.
All right, well, we have your commitment to get to
the bottom of that and hopefully get some I can't
believe you got apply for a waiver to get rid
of fraud, waste and abuse in a program. I mean,
that's that's crazy right there, Jennifer Gross. Please keep us informed.

(01:43:27):
You're always welcome here. You got updates. You need pressure
to be brought to bear. I have my listeners get
in touch with their elected officials and screaming, yell about it. Whatever,
there's something we can do. Love to help you out
with that one?

Speaker 15 (01:43:38):
Can I say, can I ask for help? So as doje.
It takes people from our community and says, hey, let's help.
Right they went to the federal government. I would encourage
the listeners to go to www dot l SC, dot
Ohio dot gov and look for HB ninety six. That's
the number of the budget and look up what we

(01:43:59):
call the read books in whatever area they're interested in.
It doesn't always have to be medicaid though, because it's
so expensive. I would encourage them to go to education
and medicate our biggest spends. But look in there, look
at the details, try to figure it out. Send your recommendations,
say we don't need that in our budget. Tell your representative,
not always me unless I'm your representative. Tell your representative.

(01:44:21):
I saw this, I want this removed. I saw this,
I want this removed. A lot of people want more
and more and more, but you're paying. So if you
think that's valuable, then say so. But if you think
it's waste, you need to go in. And if you
want more information. Right, my colleagues will hate this, but
if you want to try to get more information, write
your representative and say I think I see a problem here.

(01:44:43):
Can you help me? Because we are there. This is
a four thousand page budget. We are a government of
for and buy the people.

Speaker 1 (01:44:53):
We need more citizen watchdogs, and my listening audiences still
with them, so I encourage them to heed your advice
and help out by finding it and alerting your officials
with maybe a pointed letter or phone call. Jennifer Gross,
thank you so much for bringing this to every day's attention.
I wish you all the best of luck in the
world on behalf of the Ohio tax payers and the
American taxpayers generally getting some success over these challenges. And again,

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Thomas always happy to have Donovan and Neil from the
Americans for Prosperity on the program especially We've got big
things coming up. Donovan, Welcome back to the fifty five
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Speaker 5 (01:47:31):
Brian, always good to be with.

Speaker 1 (01:47:32):
You need to get these Trump tax cuts in place permanently,
and I always have to observe why they put an
end to them when they enact them just blows my mind.
I just anyway, here we are with them expiring, and
everybody's going to get hit. It's not just tax cuts
for the rich, as the left keeps saying. This is
really going to hit the middle class very hard.

Speaker 8 (01:47:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (01:47:55):
You know, Americans under the four years of Joe Biden
and Kamala Harris with Biden saw their cost of living
increased dramatically, Folks paying twelve to fifteen thousand dollars more
than under the prior administration.

Speaker 8 (01:48:09):
And you know, so.

Speaker 16 (01:48:11):
Inflation's hitting folks hard. But if Congress fills to act,
their tax bills are going to go up. On average,
every America will pay fifteen hundred dollars more. Should the
Trump tax cuts to twenty seventeen be allowed to expire
at the end of this year, and so there you know,
it's a one two punch Brian, from the inflationary you know,
so called Hitten tax of out of control government spending,

(01:48:32):
and then a very real visible tax when you file
your tax bill between now in April fifteenth, should these
expire on your tax bill, So it'll get you from
both sides.

Speaker 5 (01:48:42):
If Congress doesn't act soon.

Speaker 1 (01:48:44):
Well by doing it through reconciliation, which seems to be
the direction they're going to go, they don't need a
sixty vote majority in the Senate. They can do it
with a simple majority. I've seen different proposals going out there.
There's one, you know, comprehensive all under one resolution proposal,
and then there's the two steps solution. I think Donald

(01:49:06):
Trump's in favor of the former. Do you Is that
your understanding as well?

Speaker 8 (01:49:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (01:49:11):
I think that's something that broke in the last twenty
four to forty eight hours is you know, the President
has said, let's go for the big, beautiful bill, and
that's the you know, that's the beauty of the executive
They can set that agenda and Donald Trump is more
than happy, as you know we all know, to set
his vision, set an agenda, and drive towards it and
I think that, you know, it makes a lot of
sense Congress. You've got a lot more numbers in Congress.
It's a lot more work that Speaker Johnson's got to

(01:49:33):
do to keep that conference together.

Speaker 5 (01:49:34):
He'll do it.

Speaker 16 (01:49:35):
But if we can get all this done together, it's
what the American people want, and tax cuts are among
the most important, at least and most importantly retaining the
tax cuts that we have had since twenty seventeen.

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All right, let's pause. It went a little along with
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Speaker 1 (01:52:58):
Station KCD talk station Brian Thomas with Donovan and Neil
for Americans for Prosperity talking about extending the Donald Trump
tax cuts, the tax cuts and jobs at TCJA and Donovan,
what about all the screams in Whaling and nash your teeth.
People say, oh my god, we need to get more
taxes into the government because they overspend and you know,

(01:53:20):
the deficits getting bigger and bigger. That's called a spending problem.
But it also ignores the reality that by lowering taxes,
more tax revenue ends up flowing into government because we
engage in more economic activity with the money we get
to keep.

Speaker 8 (01:53:36):
That's absolutely right. That's that's what happened when we did.

Speaker 16 (01:53:39):
Every time we've cut taxes, the government has found a
way has ended up with more money. Why because a
couple of different things. One, compliance costs go down, right,
and so folks are it's easier for them to actually
pay what they owe the government, and the government gets
you know, what it deserves. I suppose I still think

(01:54:00):
it's too much, but they get it, and you know,
so the compliance costs of filing taxes go down. You
also see folks spending that money in other parts of
the economy. Right, So we're not talking about eliminating all
taxes here. We're not even talking about eliminating the federal
income tax, although I'm a fan of that. We're just
talking about making a little less burden some for folks
so they can choose where to spend their money.

Speaker 5 (01:54:21):
Whereather than bureaucrats.

Speaker 16 (01:54:23):
Like the folks at USAID are at rest in peace
now being able to spend that money on wacky projects
around the world. It's real simple, it's real straightforward. It
has a tangible impact on the livelihoods of working class
Americans and Ohioans when government lowers those taxes and keeps
those rates as low as possible.

Speaker 1 (01:54:43):
All right, Well, going back to I think what we
can describe as our own worst enemies, a lot of
the Republicans aren't in favor of cutting the amount of
spending coming out of federal government. That's why I'm a
worried about this reconciliation package because you know, not in
my state. If you cut that, then my state's going
to suffer. And it's like, well, it's time for some
belt tightening, you.

Speaker 16 (01:55:02):
Know, No, absolutely, absolutely right, absolutely right, And I think
part of that belt tightening is not feeding the beast
anymore money, right, and getting keeping the tax rates low
so that you know, we can we can then begin
to have the conversation, although that's already happening with things
like the DOGE and what Donald Trump is doing to

(01:55:24):
get the executive branch back in back in line. But
you can't you shouldn't be given that beast more money.
DC doesn't need more of our hard earned money. And
then we also need to be having the conversation about
what Congress appropriates. Uh, it's two sides of the same coin, Brian, Uh,
equally important.

Speaker 5 (01:55:42):
But we shouldn't we shouldn't let.

Speaker 16 (01:55:44):
The desire to get the deficit down keep us from
allowing folks to retain more of their hard earned money
by simply keeping the Trump tax cuts permanent.

Speaker 1 (01:55:53):
Right, And if they actually you know, if the tax
cuts went up and that actually really effectively brought more
money into government because the rates tire, which we just
talked about, that it doesn't, then they need to stop
spending and cut back the percentage amount of money they
spend so that we can start dealing with the deficit
rather than keep continuing to fund all these programs, which
is what happens every time. You know, it's the only

(01:56:16):
thing they tinker with is our tax rates, but they
never tinker with their spending. Do you have any hope
that this reconciliation bill can actually get through? Donovan?

Speaker 16 (01:56:25):
I think it has to get through or Republicans are
going to lose control in Washington, the Democrats will be
back in power, and I think we're going to you know,
not only that, right, it's not only just about the
political dynamics in Washington, but it's the future of our country.
The reconciliation package is about retaining the tax cuts, it's
about undoing the disastrous Green Energy New Deal policy out

(01:56:50):
of the Biden Harris administration. And it's about getting this
country funding border security for our border patrol agents so
we can have a secure country. It's a lot more
than just a recofiliation package.

Speaker 1 (01:57:04):
This is what.

Speaker 16 (01:57:05):
Folks campaigned on and made promises about to earn votes
back in November.

Speaker 5 (01:57:10):
They need to get this done.

Speaker 16 (01:57:12):
And if we don't get it done sometime by the summer,
it's going to be real hard to see it happen
this Congress.

Speaker 1 (01:57:17):
Jeez, that is a frightening prospect. But the timing couldn't
be better. With revelations coming from the Department of Governmental
Efficiency about you know, ten million dollars for voluntary circumcisions
and Mozambique. You know, you get enough stories like that
circulating and they actually get traction on the internet and
people start paying attention like wait a second, I'm working

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for what and demand it. Well, they take less money
out of our pockets, so these programs necessarily have to
go away, which should have been funded in the first place.
Now you got a big event coming up February twenty six,
next Thursday, at the farm. I understand you're buying dinner.

Speaker 16 (01:57:53):
Well, Americans for Prosperities buying dinner. I'll be there enjoying
dinner with folks and talking about this.

Speaker 11 (01:58:00):
Topic, talking about tax cuts and jobs.

Speaker 16 (01:58:02):
I really excited to be there with folks, George Brenneman
and the Restore Liberty crew talking about that. And I
hear it's a good crowd. You've been a speaker there,
do they get a good turnout?

Speaker 1 (01:58:13):
I haven't been over to the farm on the West
Side for one of these events, so no, it's I'm
about forty five minutes away where I live relative to
the farm, and because I get up at two thirty
in the morning, it really presents a challenge for me
to actually speak at events like this, so I won't
be able to be there. The door do open at
five point thirty, and of course the food is from
the farm. That's the West Side legend, Donovan. Everybody knows

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about the farm, and the meeting begins at seven pm.
But they're going to be doing a live recording of
the podcast during the dinner, so you'll be able to
enjoy that and then talk about this with Americans for
Prosperity again picking up the tab for your wonderful meal.
I appreciate you doing that, Donovan. I'm sure you get
a lot of people showing up for it, and they'll
get to learn something, and then you'll have a whole
bunch of citizen activists who can start pressuring their elected

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officials to get the job done.

Speaker 4 (01:59:03):
That's the idea.

Speaker 16 (01:59:04):
We'll get them, we'll get them fired up, we'll connect
them with equipment, with the facts and information, and then
we're gonna have some called action to get people doing
making that push right there and then that evening wonderful.

Speaker 1 (01:59:14):
Just Trecker has got a link on my blog page
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meeting again the farm is it Wednesday or Thursday?

Speaker 4 (01:59:23):
Wednesday?

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Wednesday the twenty sixth, I apologize. I think it's a
Thursday over Wednesday evening again. Doors open at five point
thirty Donovan. Good luck with the meeting and keep up
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Seven fifty three. I think you have krcity talk station.
We're going to hear from Michael Wallace with a book
A Rage to Conquer, Twelve Battles to change the course
of Western History, right at the top of their news.
In the meantime, Jay, I was hoping you were listening.
Did you hear kan or the Representative Gross talking about
medicaid here in Ohio?

Speaker 17 (02:02:01):
I listened to every word, man, and I want you
and Joe to take a bow after you're done today.
That was awesome. But what you guys can be proud
about is that when she talked about Faber audited medicaid
and found twenty six percent of the medicaid was outside Ohio.
I'm thinking, is this the same Keith Favor that Brian

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Thomas had on like about a year ago, who came
in and said, there's not really anything to see. It's
not really fraud, it's just improper payments and it's just
difficult in computer systems and blah blah blah.

Speaker 4 (02:02:35):
Remember you remember that, Oh?

Speaker 1 (02:02:36):
I remember like it was yesterday.

Speaker 5 (02:02:38):
I would love for you to play that again.

Speaker 17 (02:02:40):
I know you probably can't, but for the listening audience
before we you know, shower a Keith Faber, the auditor
was applause. I think you and your listening audience and
guys like us. I think it's a testament that he
wouldn't have got out his ass if it wasn't some
pressure put on him to go figure this out. And

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it's amazing that that happened and.

Speaker 4 (02:03:03):
He never he never came back around. I didn't hear
about it.

Speaker 17 (02:03:06):
In the news, so I'm glad they found it. But
just like always in Ohio, twenty six percent of forty
billion dollars a year is leaving Ohio and they're sitting
there staring at it right now trying to figure out
if they want to do ten billion a year.

Speaker 15 (02:03:21):
No.

Speaker 1 (02:03:21):
No, what she said that we need a waiver from
the federal government to make any corrections or fixes to
the Medicaid system here in Ohio. And now apparently it
sounded like that was among them. So we in the
prior administration they just raise their collective middle fingers and
laugh at us for the waiver. At least now we
stand a chance of actually getting something accomplished with the
Trump administration. We can only pray for that.

Speaker 8 (02:03:43):
I agree.

Speaker 17 (02:03:44):
Now here's the other thing. Everybody's property taxes are going
to do risk. Seventy percent of property tax is school
is your school tax? Like, we could take that ten
billion dollars a year that's going on, just the part
that's going outside of Ohio. Y put that towards your
school tax. That could cut everybody's property tax by about half.

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If my numbers are right.

Speaker 4 (02:04:09):
Listen, man, there.

Speaker 1 (02:04:11):
Is any relief, any relief unproperty tax would be welcome
here in Ohio, even if it doesn't shave it by half.
I would say, if it's a third, if it's a quarter,
whatever we can do to give the property owners some relief,
most notably the senior citizens living on fixed incomes who
had no control over the fact that their house is
tripled in value over the past couple of years. Those

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people need some really good relief. And just to know
that this much money is going out, I would argue
fraudulently or at least erroneously, and it's not eligible to
go out of the state. That's an easy fix. Jay,
Thank you so much. I appreciate the compliments, and I'm
glad you stay on this as well. Seven fifty six
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the course of Western history. Michael Walsh, my next guest,
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Eighth six a fifty five KRCD Talks Station, A very
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fifty five KRC. Mornersh. I'm an next guest author Michael Walls.
She has written quite a few books. Last Stand. You
probably read quite a few of them. Author of Last Stands,
more than fifteen other novels and nonfiction book, classical music
critic for Time Magazine at one point received the two

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thousand and four American Book Awards Prize for Fiction for
his gangster novel There's Another One You Can Read and
All the Saints. He wrote popular comums from National Review,
which he used under a pseudonym to put into the
book Rules for Radical Conservatives. There's One for You, and
his other books Devil's Pleasure and The Fiery Angel are
examples of the enemy heroes and triumphs and struggles of

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Western civilization, which allows us to pivot over to the
book we're talking about today. His new book, A Rage
to Conquer Twelve Battles that changed the course of Western history.
Michael Walsh, Welcome to the Morning Show. It's a real
pleasure to have you on today.

Speaker 5 (02:06:06):
Thank you very much. Brian.

Speaker 1 (02:06:08):
So, there are a lot more than twelve battles, and
I suppose a lot of them could have impacted Western history.
First off, what interested you in this topic? And then
how did you whittle all of the wars that have
been waged by man over the years down to the
twelve that you selected.

Speaker 5 (02:06:26):
Well, I've been very interested in military history my whole life.
I was born actually on the Marine Corps base in
Campellshire in North Carolina, and my father was a Marine
officer who fought in Korea and elsewhere. So that's part
of my upbringing. And as you mentioned, I read a
book called Last Dance four years ago which was quite successful,

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and that examined why men fight when everything seems to
be lost. But they don't cut and run. They fight.
So this book is an outgrowth of that book, and
I wanted to look at twelve battles and the command
who led them to talk about masculinity again and talk
about what it takes to be successful at what is

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unfortunately one of the most fundamental human endeavors there is,
which is warfare.

Speaker 1 (02:07:16):
Now. I want to approach this sort of in reverse order,
and we could start with the Trojan War and Achilles,
which I'm very interested in talking with you about. But
the last one, the most recent challenge, the Battle of
nine to eleven and how it was ultimately lost by
the United States. Would you put a little more flesh
on the bones of that conclusion. I think I get

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your point, but that w was just my attention gravitated
toward that considering it wasn't, you know, a traditional form
of warfare unless you look at sort of maybe our
invasion of Iraq.

Speaker 5 (02:07:50):
Well, yeah, that's turned out to the most controversial part
of the book. And I remember when an author writes
a book, he's finished the text about a year it
comes out. So it's not like blogging or anything. It's
it's you have to consider this well in advance and
try to figure out what readers are going to be
interested in. But nine to eleven struck me as an

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example of a commander President Bush who didn't understand the
rules of warfare and didn't have the stomach to fight
the battle that needed to be fought, unlike all the
other guys in the book, which include you mentioned Achilles,
who's you know, quasi fictional, but obviously it's based on
somebody real wayback when. But Caesar and Constantine the Great

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and General Patten and the other people I talked about,
And so as a result, we didn't really believe that
war was declared on us. And if you think we
won the Battle of nine to eleven, go to the
airport and see if the letters right.

Speaker 1 (02:08:51):
That's a great point, you know, behind all this, the
whole idea of warfare though, Michael, I'm a profound constitutionalist,
little l libertarian I but we end up launching missiles
and dropping bombs and taking people out in foreign lands
that we did against him. We have no declaration of war.
And you know, with technology being pervasive, more and more

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foreign actors and folks that we might not consider friendly
to us have that technology and could equally do the
same thing to us that we're doing to them. Congress
never declares war. You get an authorization, you use a
military force to deal with nine to eleven, and it
ends up lasting twenty plus years to serve as a
justification for conflicts literally everywhere.

Speaker 5 (02:09:33):
Well, it's disgraceful. It's part of the forever war mindset,
which is true of people at both parties, by the way,
And if you don't think so, just look at one
of the senators from South Carolina, John love Child, who
never saw war. He personally didn't want to fight in,
but didn't want somebody else to fight in. The fact

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is that we got more declared on us, and we
simply refused to accept. So this event happened, and then
we refused to address the issue, and we went to
other countries which had little or nothing to do with it.

Speaker 8 (02:10:09):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (02:10:11):
Cut to twenty some years later, and we even immediately
pull out of Afghanistan. It was a disgrace. And that's
what I said in the book.

Speaker 1 (02:10:19):
Well, I think you're probably in good company with my
listening audience on those conclusions, sir. Now back to Achilles again.
One of the reasons I was drawn to that is
because there is a lot of fictional element associated with Achilles,
like the Achilles Heel story. But what was his importance?
Is it? Ilium?

Speaker 5 (02:10:39):
Yes? Yeah, said Troy. Yeah. The Iliad, which is one
of the foundational great poem along with the Odyssey of
Western Culture, talks about something that we now know happened.
We're not sure to what a stenate did, and Homer
comes down to us himself as a semi mystical figure.

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But something happened there. But what's great about the earli end,
First of all, it's a great, great work of art,
and secondly, it does describe in graphic and gruesome detail
how warfare was conducted around roughly one thousand BC uh
and that is the beginning of the West's first clash

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with the East. So the obviously the Greeks were on
the western side of this divide, and the Trojans Troy
is now and where western Turkey is they were the east.
And this is a theme that runs throughout Western history.
Alexander's fight, Alexander's fighting the Persians. There's this constant battle

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within Rome against the Parthians, who are also sort of
Quasei Persians. It was is one of the threads of
the book. But you have to start with the very
first war story and that's.

Speaker 1 (02:11:58):
It understood, and fast forward over to the Crusades, the
first Cruquete Crusades Bohemond.

Speaker 5 (02:12:06):
Yes, yeah, no one has heard of Beaulamonte except for.

Speaker 1 (02:12:10):
The first time, sir. This is it man. I've just
been introduced to Bauhemont.

Speaker 5 (02:12:15):
Yeah, well, he's an amazing figure and he is the
hero of this particular chapter because he won two critical
battles in the first Crusade, which was recalled by the
Pulpe in response to the Byzantine Emperor, the emperor of
the eastern part of the old Roman Emperor Empire, to

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liberate the holy sites of Christianity. So this was in
the very late eleventh century, and Beauma was a great,
big Norman. The Normans had just conquered England like thirty
years before, and many of the Normans joined the Crusade
and went to the Holy Land to fight. And Beaumont
himself was a Norman from southern had conquered the lower

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part of Italy and Sicily and ruled it for many,
many years. So Vaumont led his troops and he was
a giant of a man. He was a tactical genius
and was able to stave off defeat in the very
first battle the Crusaders fought against the Turks, and he
was able to win and keep the whole the siege

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of Antioch and caused that city, which was crucial to
the path to Jerusalem, which he then took for himself,
and he kind of drops out of the crusading narrative.
But in two places he really stepped up and shows
the superiority of Western arms and also the size that
the Franks were much bigger than the Turks, and they

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had a problem. The Turks were very mobile, kind of
like American Indians against the cowboys or the cavalry in
the American West that come in, shoot run away, come
in and shoot runaway. The crusaders were frustrated they could
ever get their hands on them. Well, Bowman finally did
and fended off this ambush. They could have ended the
crusade at a little place called Dora Lam and then

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regrouped and they marched all the way to Antioch and
in a brilliant siege, took Antioch against vastly, vastly superior numbers.

Speaker 1 (02:14:19):
Now, in terms of the crusades, you said, the Pope
issued this, you know request, and everybody needs to go
there to help out. And I understand this was was
it largely viewed by people as a legitimate, you know,
calling from God like that this this was a necessary
religious thing to do, because you know, over the years,
there's a lot of speculation that well, now there's just

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a bunch of Europeans that wanted to go plunder and
look for treasure as opposed to liberate the country.

Speaker 5 (02:14:45):
Yeah, well there's an answer for that, which is, but
the first crusade was successful, most of them went home.
They didn't stay. Himself was a Lackland who took part
of the turf that was conquered, and so did the
but most of them went home. And a point I
make over and over again in the book is that
almost all these wars have some religious component, and from

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the earliest time, success in war was contributed to your God,
and failure meant that you had not lived up to
the demands of your God. You hadn't prayed hard enough,
sacrificed hard enough, you had you lost because of insufficient fidelity.
This is a constant theme throughout Western history. It's very
very interesting.

Speaker 1 (02:15:31):
And it makes sense. You know, if you believe in
a supreme power and you're beholden to them, and you
actually have a belief system that involves you know, God
and acts of God, then yeah, you're going to step
up to the play because basically your soul is contingent
upon it. Where you're going to end up in the afterlife, right.

Speaker 5 (02:15:49):
Yeah, Well you also got a complete remission of sins
if you went on the cruise. That was part of
the deal. And also what's interesting is the Church guaranteed
your property because the Church was the only power, you know,
the Roman Empire having fallen five hundred years earlier, six
hundred years earlier. Uh, And you were immune from lawsuits.

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And there was there was a bunch of upside. A
lot of them died on the route trip France and
what's now Germany, uh, all the way to the east
to the eastern edge of the Mediterranean. But there were
some some bennies, shall we say, uh with it, But
I would say it was mostly fueled by religious ardor.
And that was true with the Muslim side too. They

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believed in the prophet. They were they were undefeated up
to that point. They had never encountered any opposition that
stood up. They rolled through the remnants of the Roman Empire,
they rolled over Persia, conquered Iran, Islami sized Iran. They
were they were used to success. And the first time
they came up against the Franks and got walked, and

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they were it taught them something to and and this
war now that particular war has been going on for
a thousand plus, that's the Israel Goaza conflict. That's where
that starts.

Speaker 1 (02:17:03):
It's amazing that that has been raging for that long.
And you did bring up the travel I was going
to ask you about that in terms of the the
the crusades, that that distance in the time it would
take to get from point A to point B to
fight and then come back home. I'm just I suppose
that we're still under a feudal system then, correct.

Speaker 5 (02:17:27):
Yeah, more or less. The kings of Europe had not
really quite emerged yet. So what that's called the Princess
Crusade because remember there's no France, there is no Germany
right as we know it. So these were little princeling
some of various little principalities around Europe that that got
together and organized an army uh and they had specific

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leaders and they accomplished that. It's an amazing logistical feat
when you stop to think about it, that they came
all that way by land and sea, over terrible reign
and lost a lot of their people, but they just
kept going. And there were times they didn't want to go,
but they felt they had to go. And so they
seized upon any sign that God was with them, most

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famously at Antioch, where they were getting they were having
a very hard time with the giant Turkish army, and
then one of them discovered what he purported to be
the holy the tip of the Holy spear that had
pierced Christ's side at the time of the crucifixion, and
using this rusty piece of iron, they went into battle

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holding it up and won. So actually they thought God
was on their side at that point. The crusader motto
was deuslovl God wills it, and they would shout at
us they would move into battle.

Speaker 1 (02:18:47):
Fascinating stuff. Fascinating stuff, Michael Walsh, the name of the
book A Rage to conquer twelve battles that changed the
course of Western history. Michael, what we've done for you
and for my listener's problem, primarily because they're going to
want to ge copy of the book. It's on my
blog page at fifty five care see dot com. My
listeners know where to go and get a copy of
the book. There's a link to to where to buy it,
and it's well received on Amazon and if a fascinating

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range of topics, again from the Trojan War all the
way through nine to eleven. I appreciate you talking with
my listeners and me today Michael, and spending some time here,
and thanks for writing the book and documenting this important history.
Channel and I were the forecast today, cold twenty two
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Forever be thankful. Amen, brother. Absolutely, Well, let's get the
latest on this Delta Toronto crash. I finally got to
see the video of that and what the hell happened.
I was just wondering all day long when it first
was reported and I saw photographs of the plane on
its back, I'm like, how in the hell did it
get on its back? But when you watch the video,
you see that was it the wind. I know there's

(02:21:52):
some speculation it was like a wind shear coming across
the from the west side and the plane was what
landing south to north, north to south. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (02:22:01):
You explained it.

Speaker 3 (02:22:02):
Well, the first thing I look at anytime we've got
a situation like this is the weather. Did the weather
perhaps have a contributing contribute to whatever took place? And
here we were dealing with crosswinds thirty to forty miles
an hour, which aircraft can handle. It's a bit problematic,
but nothing that today's flight cruise can't handle. They normally

(02:22:22):
increase their approach speed just a bit to offset what
they're going to be dealing with on the crosswind, and
they go through the normal the process. I saw the video, though,
and it shocked me because I'm thinking, Okay, I understand
you have a slightly increased speed on arrival, but the

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angle that the aircraft comes into the runway and the
speed on which it comes in. Matthew Buckley, who was
a fighter pilot, I heard him quoted on a news
feed this week. He said that was an aircraft carrier landing,
and I thought that was the perfect way to phrase it,
because typically when an aircraft comes in right before you

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have the touchdown, what the crew tends to do is
to pull the nose up just a bit. They flared up,
so just like you remember the space shield of the landing,
the rear gears come down first, and then slowly the
front rotates down to where the landing gear touches down.
Here all three seemed to almost hit the same time
and at such a speed that it looked like the

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force of that could have caused and I'm not sure
because the investigation is just beginning, the right rear landing
gear to collapse. So once you have the right landing
gear collapse, everything shifts to the right.

Speaker 1 (02:23:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:23:41):
You then have the wing that comes ripped off of
the aircraft. It may have been the landing gear helped
to take the wing off, we don't know. And then
you've still have the left wing that's on the aircraft
that's still doing what it's supposed to be doing. Fine.
So what happens was abs in a white a right wing.
You now see the aircraft turn, it pivots up and

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comes around to where it's on its top. Now, one
of the things I'm glad for it is that the
fuel that was in the right wing was detached and
was trailing the fuselage. That was a mirror, definitely a
miracle there because you had jet fuel aviations gone everywhere,

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and that part that was on fire, and of course
there's always the fear of explosion, and it was separated
from the aircraft, which was good, and the entire interior
of the aircraft did exactly what it should have. The
fuselage remained intact. The seats which have been totally and
completely upgraded over the decades, which now I think they're
rated for sixteen g's of force, they didn't go anywhere.

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You had everybody hopefully strapped in as they should have been.
You have fire retardant materials inside the aircraft again, because
we've learned over the years and we've made things safer
that air aircraft, and that accident was probably the poster
child for everything that the NTSB has been able to
do over the last thirty forty years and constantly learning

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from every accident in their accident, so every aspect of
aircraft aviation we can make safer. And then of course
you had the flight attendants do an incredible job getting
people out of the aircraft. Remember, the easiest thing to
do is to throw open that door to get everybody out.
The problem is you're inverted, so had they not remembered
to disengage the emergency slides, you open that door and

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all they're going to do is drop again. These flight attendants,
I cannot brag on their training enough. You've got all
of this going on. It was happening in seconds. They're
getting everybody off the aircraft and they did their typical
great job, and you know, it reminded me because they're
calling this a miracle in Toronto. It was twenty years
ago we had a miracle in Toronto and Air France

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flight comes in lands Long, hits hard. Kind of a
similar situation here, playing breaks up, heart catches on fire,
three hundred nine people on board, the plane's about to explode.
Now to board three hundred and nine people, it takes
you forty five minutes or so. Yeah, the flight attendant's
got everybody off in less than ninety seconds. Airplane blows up,

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no fatalities. You look at the images of Air France
three point fifty eight a Google image, and aircraft is
completely burnt, totally, it's gone, and you're thinking, good lord,
did anybody survive? Everyone survived. The flight attendants did a
great job, you know, and we know that because of
all the people who felt compelled before they got out
of the aircraft to video everything that was going on,

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because look, I'm upside down, the airplane may be on fire.
Of course I'm going to video what's going on now.
I'm gonna get my butt off that airplane. But some
people thought videoing it was I might get alike here.

Speaker 1 (02:26:47):
Yeah, let's do that, then go and then change my underwear. Honestly,
Oh my.

Speaker 3 (02:26:51):
Lord, it's just these people. I just you know, people die.
I'm gonna get next to a buffalo. I'm gonna lead
off this cliff.

Speaker 1 (02:26:58):
It just well, we refer to that as you know,
the the Darwin theory of evolution, your survival of the fittest.
We'll bring Jay back. We got several more things to
talk about with our heart media aviation expert Jay RATHP.
We're going to do that.

Speaker 6 (02:27:11):
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Speaker 14 (02:27:14):
My name is Kyle Tigisim.

Speaker 1 (02:27:18):
It's a thirty nine I fifty got KRCD talk station.
It's Thursday. It's I heard media avation expert Jay Ratlift.
Time and Jay have pivoting over to Trump and his
firing of FAA employees, and everyone seems to want to
blame him for every airplane disaster it's out there. When

(02:27:38):
Donald Trump wasn't around, it didn't have anything to do
with it, but he didn't get rid of some FAA
employees and apparently looking to upgrade the FAA flight system
because what it's it's it's a legacy system from like
the nineteen fifties or something.

Speaker 3 (02:27:52):
Right, Oh, you're being kind, but yes, at least the
nineteen fifties. And you and I've talked about the need
for upgrading that system. Incredible to use the word upgrade
is an insult to the word upgrade. It's just it
needs to be blown up and redone. So if President
Trump can bring in the SpaceX people that can land

(02:28:13):
a rocket, I think that they can figure out a
way to upgrade significantly what we have with the air
traffic control system. And I'm incredibly excited because of all
the presidents we've had for the last twenty thirty forty years,
you've heard many of them talk about the need for
devoting the necessary resources and to get things improved as

(02:28:35):
much as possible. At the Federal Aviation Administration, rarely does
it happen. Now, we've had a few projects next gen
the tracking system that has been so decades behind schedule,
so far over costs, it's been ridiculous. But the idea
of getting this kind of attention now thrills me because

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if they can attack it like the Manhattan Project, knock
it out in two or three years, and come out
with something that's state of the art. It means that
even if we have air traffic controllers that are working
shorthanded as we are across the country, let's at least
give them the state of the art technology. Let's make
it as easy on them as we can to do
their jobs, which of course is just going to make

(02:29:18):
everything that much more safe. And of course, when Donald
Trump comes out and fires four hundred or three hundred
people from the FAA, that's what everybody's screaming about. And
you know, they asked the Delta CEO at Bastian this
week I think it was yesterday about that very point,
and he just shrugged it off. He said, look, about

(02:29:38):
three or four hundred people. They were probationary employees, none
of them air traffic control, none of them in a
critical supports position. And yeah, it was just part of
all the trimming that's taking place right now.

Speaker 8 (02:29:53):
Now.

Speaker 3 (02:29:53):
I'll be the first to admit the opticts look horrible,
but the bottom line is the idea that these were
air traffic control rollers and individual No, they were probationary employees.
A lot of them are being interviewed and you would
think they were the head of the FAA, but that's
not the case. So what we have as as far
as the situation here is if we can get everything

(02:30:15):
upgraded and we can devote more time in getting a
non DEI approach to air traffic controllers, I think we're
going to be in good shape. Because it was a
number of years ago the FAA wanted to be more inclusive.
Nothing wrong with that, but they significantly lowered the standards
for us bringing in individuals from a qualification standpoint, and
that's where I have my issue. I don't care about

(02:30:37):
anybody's whatever. I just want to make sure that they're
the most qualified individual, male, female, whatever for that position.
And as long as that's the focus, then that's great.
I don't want to have a DEI policy like United
wants for pilots where they want twenty percent of their
pilots hired to be women or minorities. That's a great goal,
but to have that stated that means you're going to

(02:31:00):
say no to very qualified people to bring in less
qualified people. And even though some will say, well, that's
not a downgrade and safety because they're all qualified. Look,
if I've got an attorney as fifty years experience versus
one that's got ten years experience, I know which one
I want to go with problems.

Speaker 1 (02:31:19):
You were right on that. All right, let's move over.
There was another uh.

Speaker 3 (02:31:23):
Oh, and Brian, excuse me, I do have an attorney.

Speaker 8 (02:31:26):
Question for you.

Speaker 3 (02:31:26):
Yeah, the Delta Airlines is coming out offering the people
on the Toronto flight thirty thousand dollars, no strings attached,
and the thought is it would not prevent you from
further lawsuits or anything you want to do legally down
the road. I want to trust Delta to do this,
I really do, because it's such a nice gesture. But

(02:31:50):
I would wonder, from your hat and your experience, what
would you think about somebody taking that thirty thousand dollars
from Delta.

Speaker 1 (02:31:57):
Well, if it didn't come with strings attached, because I
would figure that they would have a well a settlement
agreement form pre prepared that by signing on the dotted
line and accepting thirty thousand dollars, you agree to release
and Delta from all further liability. But if they're just
saying here, I don't know that can necessarily impact it.
Accept at trial when you were asking for your damages

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and Delta's attorneys, if you have to go through the
trial process, would say, well, it needs to be reduced.
We did give you thirty thousand dollars, right, so you're
part of your pain and suffering or your economic damages
or whatever, it has already been reduced by that amount.
So but since you're talking about, you know, theoretical numbers,
like how much do you get for pain and suffering
and emotional damage? What does that figure really even mean?

(02:32:41):
So it's a random figure that a jury might award
you that you're going to be reduced by a thirty
thousand dollars amount of Okay whatever, Maybe the jury gave
the guy thirty thousand dollars more than he really even needed.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:32:55):
It's like out the idea that you would be comfortable with.
It makes me feel better about it, because, you know, sadly,
in my career, there were times I had to deal
with individuals that survived plane crashes, some that were the
sole survivors of commercial crashes. And I'm thrilled that everybody survived,
but we would be remiss at not remembering that the

(02:33:16):
emotional stress that these individuals went through is going to
be something that for many of them, they're going to
be living with and coping with for the rest.

Speaker 8 (02:33:22):
Of their life.

Speaker 1 (02:33:23):
Yeah, like a decision to never fly again because I
almost died. I can understand that a lot. Yeah, let's pause.
We're going to talk about the other mid air collision
between the General Aviation airplanes, and then also a word
or two about breaking wheelchairs plus hub delays. One more
with Jay Ratliffe.

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A forty eight fifty five Krcddarks station One more time
with I heard mediavas expert Jay Ratliffe, And what's the
story in the two planes that flew into each other? Jay?

Speaker 3 (02:34:45):
You know, anytime we have a general aviation accident, now
it's gonna make frontline, Yeah, headlines. It normally doesn't. So sadly,
we might have eight or ten people every week that
die in general aviation accidents. So when we had these
two planes collide in outside of Tucson now about twenty
five miles outside of Tucson at a regional airport, it

(02:35:06):
just raises everybody's concern overflying. But one of them was
Assessena and those that have flown in Assessina knows the
wings over your head, the blind spot is above you.
And the other airplane involved was an aircraft that was
a low wing, the kind you step onto the wing
and then jump in to the end of the interior
of the airplane where the blind spot is underneath. And Brian,

(02:35:28):
we had a situation here in Cincinnati a number of
years ago and We've had them around the country where
you have this type of scenario where the cessana can't
see above it and the other airplane can't see below it,
and there's times that they occupy the same airspace collide
and sometimes fatalities occur, and I suspect that's what probably
happened here. They do not have an air traffic control

(02:35:49):
tower at this Minera Regional Airport. They've been approved for one,
but they're five years behind. COVID really set them back.
So you had pilots that were in essence talking to
everyone as they were doing what they were doing. And
you know, again, we just had two airplanes that were
in the wrong position here, at least one of them,
and you know, the ntsb'll find out why. But remember,

(02:36:12):
we'll have four or five, maybe six hundred fatalities every
year on general aviation. So in the sixteen years we
went without an accident here in the United States, commercially,
there were probably seven to eight nine thousand fatalities on
general aviation. So wow, it's a norm. So I'm just
trying to keep things in proper perspective so people don't
think we're having more planes. Swallow of this guy now

(02:36:33):
than we've ever had, because that simply wouldn't be an
accurate statement.

Speaker 1 (02:36:37):
Well, my dad had a pilot's license. He hadn't flown
since I think before I was since I was before
I was born, But he knew aviation and he knew
the concepts and everything. Anyway, when they were in Alaska
and doing one of those you know, flyover Alaska airplane
kind of deals, and he called the pilot's attention to
a very close aircraft, you know, said two o'clock, two o'clock,

(02:36:59):
and maybe avoided a collision because they're just flying around
doing sight seeing. Well, I think it was only a
couple weeks later in the news, and it's the reason
he brought the story up. Two of them flew into
each other up there.

Speaker 3 (02:37:11):
Yeah, Yep, it happens, and it's happening less now because
we have technology that continues to improve and a lot
more of a situational awareness on the training side. But sadly,
you have a lot of people that are pilots that
are trying to increase the number of their flight hours
so they can qualify to become commercial pilots. They're flying

(02:37:32):
some of these smaller tour type airplanes and they don't
have quite the experience that we would like him to have,
and sadly, sometimes mistakes take place.

Speaker 1 (02:37:41):
All right, moving over to breaking wheelchairs, this is a thing.

Speaker 3 (02:37:47):
Well, airlines have made it a thing because over the
last several years they have broken, loss, delayed all kinds
of wheelchairs to the point that the Biden administration, lasts
fall through the Department of Trainransportation came out with a
ruling that said, look, airlines are responsible for the handling
of wheelchairs and disabled passengers because Brian, when you have

(02:38:08):
a situation where someone is unable to walk, they have
to be carried on and off the aircraft, and the
airline doesn't have an aisle chair, the smaller, narrow the
thing you put a person on, getting them off their
wheelchair in the jet bridge and then taking back to
road ten or something. Some airlines don't have those at
the gate like they're supposed to, even though they have

(02:38:29):
advanced warning, and some passengers have been forced to crawl
out of the airplane so they can be then placed
into their wheelchair. So the Biden Administration, to their credit, said, look,
when this type of thing's happened, it's an automatic violation
of the Federal Air Carrier Access Act, which makes perfect sense.
So the airlines were held to a higher standard. Well,

(02:38:50):
now that we have a different administration, and now that
they've already had a victory in court over the fee
disclosures on reservations the airlines, for the lobbying group for
the airlines or back in court representing five airlines who
are challenging this thing. It's not exactly fair for us
to have this kind of thing imposed on us, and

(02:39:11):
they're looking for it to be thrown out the window.
Now I suspect, and I really want to be wrong here,
they're going to get their way and it's going to
disappear because this is a very friendly airline friendly administration,
as every other administration has been before. Other than for
whatever the reason, the bid administration went after airlines unlike

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any that I've ever seen. In the last two years,
airlines have been held accountable in ways that I love
because finally they're being held to standards, not from a
safety standpoint, but from a customer service standpoint, being forced
to provide better service. So I'll keep an eye on
this one and I'll let you know. But I suspect
that surprise this one will probably be thrown out the

(02:39:53):
window where airlines are no longer required to have specific
requirements when they lose or damage wheelchair, many of which
that are personally made. You just can't put somebody in
a wheelchair that it's in a wheelchair because sometimes for
medical reasons, the wheelchair they have this has to be
specially designed. So to misplace one, lose one for ten, twelve,
twenty four to thirty six hours, Yeah, puts that individual

(02:40:17):
in incredible pain and suffering while they're waiting for the
airline to get their act together to get the wheelchair
that they have lost, which should be a priority you know,
returned to the customer.

Speaker 1 (02:40:27):
Fair enough on that.

Speaker 3 (02:40:28):
And finally, how many times damage wants it gets there?

Speaker 1 (02:40:31):
Brian, I'm sorry to laugh about that, but that comes
to shock.

Speaker 4 (02:40:35):
It's sad, it is it is.

Speaker 1 (02:40:37):
How about finally we end on hub delays.

Speaker 3 (02:40:40):
If you're flying today Salt Lake City, Philadelphia, d C.
And Charlotte, looks like those hubs are gonna have weather
delays that could approach an hour. Other than that to
other places around the country, it should be a pretty.

Speaker 14 (02:40:50):
Goo da to fly.

Speaker 1 (02:40:51):
Sounds great, I heard me. Theavia's next fort Jay Ratliffe
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