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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:20):
It's always a pleasure having you on the program.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Brian. Good to be here with you.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
You know, and are you going to talk about energy today?
And we'll get to that topic. I just had to
just say out loud, filling the gas tank isn't as painful.
It just seems like in five minutes time, the price
of gas has dropped fairly dramatically. What magic one did
Donald Trump waive to cause that.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
To happen.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Four weeks in a row. I think of consistent drop
in national gas price averages. I think what it is, right,
there's no single action I think that's been taken, But
I think what it is is an increased confidence and
the fact that all energy sources here in this country
are going to be embrace right, We're not pushing towards
this green new deal, Green energy new deal.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
It's recognizing that.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
We've got to have fuel to fuel our cars and
an apportable price right now, and folks are making that investment.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
And making that investment, and that is like having a
tax cut it. I mean, if you can lower the
price of our monthly energy bills, for example, we all
benefit from that. It frees up more resources. I just
get this idea that, you know, the forces in government
are doing everything that they can possibly do to eradicate
our extra income and reduce our consumption power. It's like this,
(01:34):
it just seems to be this sort of grand conspiracy
to limit what we can spend on and soak it
all up with outrageous energy prices and you know, increase
insurance premiums and increase every I mean, it's just every
little bit around us is whittled away, whittled away, whittled
away by government action.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Well, yeah, you know, there's the there's a direct form
of taxation, right that we feel every two weeks at
our pocketbook. Then you've got the inflationary form of taxation, right,
It's that hidden taxation that comes from the government printing
more money and spending more money and debuting value of
the dollar. And then there's a regulatory right, so it's
even more hidden. But it's the kind of taxation that
(02:12):
occurs through the rules and regulations, the red tape that
government creates that makes it more cost, creates compliance costs
that get passed on to consumers. I think what we're
seeing right now is an undoing of a lot of
those things, right, lower taxes, less government spending, and cutting
a red tape that's leading to relief for American people
(02:33):
after four years of Bidenomics.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Indeed, and this whole idea that you know, climate change,
climate change, and forcing energy companies to invest in renewable
resources which are not reliable that drives the cost of
energy up too, and of course leaves us with less
reliable energy sources. And AFP is a hell bend for
leather here in Ohio to improve our energy policy. Am
I right?
Speaker 3 (02:56):
That's correct? No special interests, no favorite energy. We want
an abundance energy, an abundance approach to energy policy making
here in the state of Ohio. And I'm happy to
report lawmakers in the state of Ohio have started. I
have taken some important first steps and getting us.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
There and what might those steps be and I got
my fingers crossed and includes a nuclear.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
So we actually issued our first key vote alert yesterday.
They voted it out of the Senate Energy Committee unanimously
eleven yes.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Votes, zero no votes. Senate Bill two.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
This is an important piece of legislation that will undo
subsidies that were brought in through Houspital six, the scandal
written Nuclear Energy LG and will most importantly.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Expedite the sighting process. This is what you like, Brian.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
I've just prepping for this on the nuclear because I
know you're a big nuclear fan. The sighting process, So
if you're in the state of Ohio, you'll be able
to get an energy project up and going within forty
five days. The Power Sighting Board has forty five days
to get to a yes or a no.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Give give an energy company and answer.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
If they were failed to respond, that project's automatically approved.
And so what that's gonna do is it's going to
signal to energy generators across the country who want to
make investments and energy projects that Ohio is open for
business and ready to bring. If you've got a project,
you can get excited here in the state of Ohio.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
And you're not gonna have.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
To wait years to figure out if you're gonna if
it's going to be approved. You're gonna have answers within
a month and a half on these expedited processes.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
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help you help ourselves here in the state of Ohio.
Talking energy policy today was Senate Bill too Donovan, forty
five days to approve or deny a project. In terms
of what building an energy plan or a power plan
or maybe a nuclear plan is it is that?
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Is that? My is that? The is that?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
What is this bill is all about?
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Yeah, there's a number of different provisions in there as
well as like removing the electric security plans in place
of market rate offers. But on the permitting piece, what's
really key here is you'll you know, you hear about
all the time, right like Keystone Pipeline and these other
energy projects that that that get featured in election years.
It's the bureaucracy, right Yeah, the knowing whether projects going
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have you approved or not that oftentimes can kill these
things before they ever see the light of day. I
think that's a key part of this, right is that
they're saying saying, you know, if we can we find
these it's these designated areas of the state where we
need the energy generation to occur, We're going to create
that expedited that expedited process and for the rest of them,
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they'll also have a quick and reliable process.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I think it's something like ninety or one hundred and
eighty days. But either way, Brian, what this legislation is.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Going to do is give folks the confidence that if
they're going to invest in an energy project, they're going
to have an answer within a defined period of time.
No more bureaucrafts slow walking the process. We're going to
get it in, we're going to get it out, or
you get energy on the grid.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Well, I'm almost afraid to ask this question, but quite
often these projects are held up in litigation. There's all
kinds of environmental lawsuits, you know, the oh this particular
fish or turtle is going to be impacted by and
they run into court and it court slaps an injunction
on it, preventing the project from going forward. Does this
deal with those types of concerns and resulting delays.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Well, that's a good point. I guess it's not all
sunshine and rainbows, right. They don't have a little problem
known as the federal government, and you got or nerk
if you're dealing with nuclear power. What I think is
key here is is you know, and as a state,
we're able to move a little faster than the federal government.
So the state's going to get its business in order
and be ready to go.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Well, we're going to be then.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Looking to is creating that upward pressure to the federal
government and making sure And I think we've got a
good voice and advocate in the White House. We've got
the right folks in Congress. We need them to do
their part. I think a lot of that happens in
the one big beautiful bill that's that's being worked on
right now in Congress to get the federal government alignment
so that, yeah, we can get these projects done and
(09:34):
get to focus on relief.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
On their entranty bills.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Yeah, you mentioned Keystone pipeline. It was you know, approved
across the board and you know, over multiple administrations and
only to have Biden pulled the plug on it again
when he got elected. It's just I have never understood that.
And from an environmental standpoint, the pipeline much better than
loading up oil onto trains and sending it on train
tracks down to the refineries in Texas. So I just
(09:59):
really really baffling. So anything else in this centibil too,
you want to bring my listeners attention, Well, I.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Think the other thing is these market rate offers. I
hint it out just a moment ago. So you know,
when we originally deregulated the state of Ohio. Right, and
we said energy generators are in a generator. Energy distributors
are going to distribute the energy. Neverthe two shall meet.
The distributors sound a number of different loopholes and ways
to kind of put riders and new fees on your
bill that get us all scratching our heads and wondering
(10:29):
why our bills keep going up. The market rate, requiring
market rate offers is going to force companies to go
to the market like they should in a free market
economy and get the best and cheapest options and deliver
those to the customers. We think that's going to help
do is bring down the costs on energy and again
allow all forms of energy wind, solar, nuclear, coal, oil, gas,
(10:52):
whatever to compete on the same marketplace, in the same
marketplace for your energy dollar, ultimately resulting in a better
product for the consumers. And that's what this bill is
all about, empowering the consumers.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Well, that's wonderful. And lower energy prices mean we have
a greater magnet to draw business and industry in the
state of Ohio. I mean, can you imagine trying to
set up a business in California with the outrageous price
of energy there. Oh, look, here's a cheaper option. We've
got plenty of land resources and abundant cheap energy in
the state of Ohio. I know Viva Grammarsom he's planning
on getting rid of the income tax. Whether he's successful
(11:26):
in that or not, but that also is a type
of magnet. It's certainly worked for Texas and Florida.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Well, and when you talk about businesses, there's also provisions
in here to allow behind what they call behind the
meter for large companies. So if Amazon or Google want
to locate their big data centers here in the state
of Ohio right now, many of the proposals have had
taxpayers on the hook. If those projects fall through or
something happens, taxpayers, the rate payers are going to have
to shoulder some of that burden.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
This removes that.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Provision, removes that ability and says no, Amazon, Google, you
can build your energy behind the meter here in the
state of Ohio. In fact, we want you to do it,
but you're not going to put it on the backs
of the rate payers. And so what we think that'll
do is allow those private companies to partner with energy
generation companies to build their necessary energy infrastructure to put
their projects here in Ohio, and then I Yali Bryant,
(12:16):
with Pennsylvania, New York, New Jersey fail to actually embrace
energy abundance in their states. They're going to come knock
on Ohio's door asking to get that energy onto the grid.
We're going to become a net exporter of energy, where
right now we're a net importer of energy. We ought
to be exporting our energy to the East Coast, and
(12:36):
we're going to be able to do that. I think
if Centebil two becomes law.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
I agree completely. And you know, going back to nuclear,
which you know I like, and these modular nuclear plants
which have a very small footprint, not your three mile
island technology folks. We're decades and decades beyond that from
a technological standpoint. But those big powerhouse data companies, they
have massive political influence, they have massive amounts of money,
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and they need huge amounts of energy to run these
data centers. They'll have they can build their own modular
nuke plants and we will enjoy the benefits of it,
because I presume the way these nuclear plants work, they'll
generate far more energy than the data centers actually require,
which means local communities can get the benefit of the
having the nuclear power plants there.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Yep. And that's the idea.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
And a lot of folks have been hung up on, well,
was the federal you know, the Fed's going to have
this stuff go on the grid?
Speaker 2 (13:27):
How's this all going to work?
Speaker 3 (13:29):
I think what we're seeing in Centabile two and from
the conversations happening in committee and outside of the committee, is
we're just gonna We're just going to open up the
state of Ohio for energy bundance. We're going to take
this energy abundance approach to policy making.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
We're going to ask folks to cite their projects here
in the state.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Of Ohio all the above, and as as folks see
this energy have generating in the state of Ohio, they're
going to come knock in and asking for it. And
it's gonna it's gonna end up working out to where
this this is going to create an opportunity here in
the state of Ohioland so, uh yeah, that's that's the idea.
And by the way, we're doing it with how many
subsidies Brian Zero, We've got fire to have a rate
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payers subsidize anybody's favorite interest projects.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
We're doing it with.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Zero and they're because they're letting the free market dictate
how this is going to operate.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yeah, well that last one was attained in controversy. To
say the least, political careers and freedoms and liberties in
jeopardy is a consequence of that, Shenanigan. So this is
a better approach. How come my listeners getting involved on
Van O'Neill.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Well, we're at a critical juncture. Go to Buckeye blueprint
dot com. You go to Buckeye blueprint dot com. Most
important is reach out to your senators. We anticipate this
legislation will be on the floor of the Ohio Senate
later today, if not next week, and then there's legislation
moving in the House as well. And so most importantly,
contact your representatives and say, hey, support energy generation here
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in the state of Ohio.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
And you do that by visiting Buckeye blueprint dot com.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Well, it came out of committee unanimous. Is there really
any political opposition to this in Columbus?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
The only folks who are posing this are the utilities
because they stand to lose the most and the ability
to impact rate pairs with these new writers that they.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Keep imposing on otherwise.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
There's pretty pretty widespread support for this legislation because it
doesn't favor any particular group, a resource, or industry.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
It helps all Ohio residents who consume power and pay
a power bill. That's great news for everybody in the
state of Ohio. Thank you Buckeye Blueprint dot Com. Donovan,
and you will keep up the great work. I'll look
forward to having you back on with maybe more good
news next time.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Absolutely see right, take.
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