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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A forty fifty five krc DE talk station. As always,
props to Dan Regnold for creating the empower You Seminar series.
Wonderful learning opportunities on a whole variety of topics, from
politics to gardening to lighting. And today I'm pleased to
welcome to the fifty five CARC Morning Show Manada is
all about lighting, Scott Zimmerman. He's the founder of a
company called Silo Sinc. Maker of ni r A lighting,

(00:24):
which is my understanding what near what near infrared enhanced lighting,
and he'll explain that in the moment. He has one
of the thirty five years of experience in the field
of lighting and displays. Innovations and inventions have been used
commercially in a wide range of military commercial products, including
night vision displays, liquid crystal displays, back gliding designs, and

(00:46):
lighting fixtures, and lately he's been focused on quantifying the
health effects of natural sunlight and the concerns with LED
type lighting. Scott Zimmerman, it's great to have you on
the Morning show. Your Power You seminars taking place tomorrow
night beginning at seven. Listeners know to log in to
empower You. The letter You America dot org and get registered.

(01:07):
Welcome to the show, sir. It's a pleasure having you
on today.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Thank you very much. Well, I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
The one common complaint I hear is the modern headlights,
those brilliant almost blue blasting headlights. It's like the low
beams are on, but it looks like you're getting hit
by like five sets of light bulbs, all intense on
high beam. That's one area where I at least recognize
that a lot of people have, at least in my world,

(01:35):
have complained about. But that's just one element of these
blue lights.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Yeah, I mean, I totally agree with you. There are
the headlights are really annoying and a problem. But in general,
I don't think people are aware that what the government
has done with very hivarious doe debardment of energy mandates
is eliminate about ninety percent of what we get when
we walk out and look into up there or we're

(02:01):
in normal outdoor blue sky type of situation. And what
we're finding is I've been lucky enough to work with
a number of world leaders in certain areas. Bob Jeffries neuroscientists,
Bob Fosbery astrophysicists, for Robert Swelt, a forward board certification doctor,

(02:23):
and we're finding that what they took away, the ninety
percent of the solar spectrum that they took away from
us with LED lighting is actually affecting our health and
it was actually being used for some very important purposes
within the body. So it's been kind of a very
interesting We have probably one of the most diverse group

(02:44):
of people looking at the problem, and it's something that
I think we're trying to get them to change. What's
going on, And like I say, it's a lot more
than just headlights. It's also just what's affecting our kids, build,
you learn, or immune system, a bunch of other things.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Really well, I can understand the evolutionary process. Up until
very very recent in human mankind's development, we relied on firelight,
and of course with the incandescent bulb. Of my understanding
is those did burn on a spectrum that provided this
red and infrared light that we had become used to.
But you know, enter the global warming phenomenon and these

(03:23):
you know, compact fluorescent bulbs, which I always absolutely hated.
Segue to LED bulbs, which until recently, and I want
to ask you about them, up until recently they were
really harsh. You know, the light was intense white light
and didn't have any color to it. There's no warm
glow to it now with modern LEDs, and I'm hoping
you don't tell me that my can lights which are

(03:45):
LED are bad froom because they're adjustable and you can
get a warm glow from them. Is that the kind
of NIRA technology you're talking about that's now being developed
or have I got that wrong?

Speaker 2 (03:56):
And unfortunately it's not all they've done. It's the eye
has a very limited only measures of UR can only
detect about ten percent of the solar spectrum and the
rest of it it has no idea what's going on.
And so the lighting industry, you know, one of those green,
misguided but well intended green attempts at saving energy. They said, well,

(04:23):
let's just take the ninety percent that nature has been
providing for millions of years and the body has adapted
to and get rid of it, and instead we're going
to only give you the part that chair I respond to, Well,
that sounds like a great thought. Unfortunately, those other wavelengths
were actually there to actually make it so that you
could see safely. And so what are you seeing you're

(04:46):
seeing explosion in blue blockers, in red light therapy, in
you know, forest bathing, all these things. The public is
sensing that there is a problem here, and now we're
putting some sign behind it, and it's showing that hey,
you know, those longer wavelengths that we can't see, we're
actually there so that you could safely be in a

(05:09):
blue sky or had you know, some of the immune
improve your immune response or ability of the mitochondria to
actually generate energy. And what's fascinating is that it's this
multi disciplined team is now getting a lot of people
jumping on the bandwagon saying, hey, you know, maybe maybe

(05:30):
we may win a little too far, and we actually
have a petition now and to try and pull back
some of the mandates that the DOE put in place,
especially under the Biden administration, to say, you know where
they were essentially creating requirements that would make for a
toxic environment as far as all the lighting and you're

(05:52):
not going to die tomorrow. I'm not saying that the
point is is good, you know. You know. The point
is is that you know, after millions of years of
adaptation to the solar spectrum, the body has developed some
amazing optic My field is optical engineering, So I looked
at the optic side of things, and you see that
the body literally collects and localizes some of these longer

(06:15):
wavelengths around the fetus during development and or in through
the brain structure. You know, I keep on saying, you know,
think about the old days where you had a flashlight
and you stuck it in your mouth and you were
telling ghost stories and you see everything kind of glow
red and orange. Well, the longer wavelengths actually penetrate deep
into the body and they are stimulating various things that

(06:39):
we are only now beginning to understand. But it is
clearly something that is the body expects, and if it
doesn't get it, then there's going to be an adverse effect.
It's kind of like ying yang. You know, you need
the visible to see and do your work and all
this other stuff, but the longer wavelengths are there to
kind of Okay, well that takes it is as harmful

(07:01):
in some ways, We're going to use this to kind
of offset it. So it's kind of like a on
a you know, a like I say, a Yin yang
type situation.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
Well, since we are literally surrounded by these everywhere we
go these days. And I've been working under fluorescent lights
for as long as I've been in a job. I
presume that those also lack these red and infrared spectrums.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
That's correct, and you know, and what Glenn's done in particular,
he's done a lot of studies now where he's showing that,
you know, the the reintroducing the longer wavelengths having a
positive effect on your eye ability to see color, contrast
or other aspects. There's a strong a lot of people

(07:47):
are doing red light therapy to increase wound healing. Well,
those are real effects, and they do add up over time.
And Glenn's done some great work with animal insects and
things like that to show the twenty five percent increase
in a lifetime associated with those flies and things of
that nature. But we're just now starting to understand that

(08:09):
all these different longer wavelengths that you can't see with
your eye are just as important and in some ways
more important. And unfortunately, there was a time when you
may have been under a fluorescent light during work, but
you came home to an incandescent and read his story
to your son or your daughter, and that was giving
you a plent or you had a fire in the

(08:30):
fireplace going or things of that nature. So you know,
these thermal sources are broad bandomitters that clear out into
way out into the longer wavelengths. And as we dig deeper,
we're seeing more and more cases where isn't that a
coincidence that this is localized near this particular thing, And

(08:51):
then you throw that in and so in a lot
of ways, what we have is while RFK Junior is
focused on processed food, we have processed sunlight and it
is negatively impacting our ability for our kids to learn.
And there's you know, and proving all that will take
time and effort, but it's it's something that's simple to

(09:13):
fix and and it still saves some energy. You know.
That's what our products are basically showing. But my main
focus is not on our products. So my main focus
we tell everybody please just go outside. Don't be stupid outside,
I put it, wear a hat. You know, you're not
out there to bake yourself. But simply walking the forest

(09:34):
then enhances the amount of near and for red that
you're getting into your body, and there's a positive effect.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Well, the production of vitamin D because not of us,
all of us have enough vitamin D in our bodies
because we send so much time in the house. You know,
we're at work for eight hours or more and then
we go home and we sit in front of our laptops.
And I understanding laptops also have this negative effect in
terms of the light that they produce.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah, they are only visible lighting. And you know, you
think about children. This is the first generation where this
is going to have a marked effect, and it already
is having a marked effect, and that you know, it
used to be you and I we would go out
and we'd be building the fort or going and doing something.
Even children's sports nowadays are usually done indoors under artificial

(10:18):
lighting that contains none of these longer wavelengths. And you know,
so if we can encourage people to safely and you know,
you're not going to in the afternoon after school, the
kids are not going to get a bunch of sunburns
or things like that. In ninety nine, Flame of the Places,
and you know, if they're working under doing stuff under

(10:41):
trees or whatever, that's that's just more of the positive
because if you get a chance. Bob Posberry has some
great pictures of what's going on within the body where
he shows how the near infra red penetrates all the
way through your hand into your internal organs and then
the trees when you're outdoors are reflecting in there and

(11:03):
for red. So it's kind of like a pair of
nature sunglasses where absorbing the visible and the UV but
reflecting the they air inf red into people when you're
outdoors interacting with nature. And so that's sort of and
what's really exciting is is that Bob R. Roger Swelt
is starting to He's a board certified doctor, emergency room doctor,

(11:24):
pulmonary doctor. He started to take his parent patients out
and seeing positive results by just simply going outside with him. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
So one takeaway we get today from Scott Zimerman, who's
doing the seminar tomorrow night beginning at seven pm and
power you America dot or get over there and register
and learn more about this one takeaway today, get outside
and enjoy some sunlight and forest bathing. Ron Wilson, our
gardening expert, would love to hear this. If he was
listening right now, he will be smiling with delight. This
has been fascinating. Scott Zimerman, I look forward to my

(11:56):
listeners joining the program tomorrow night, seven pm. Log in
and learn something, and get home and get outside for
a change. Thanks for your time today, it's really fascinating.
Eight fifty two coming up an eight fifty three, fifty
five Casey the Talk Station, be right back, fifty five
the Talk Station.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Hey Gary,

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