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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Seven nine. If you about kerrise the talk station. Happy Wednesday, boy,
I'm so glad Americans for Prosperity, Donald and Neils joining
the program right now. I'm talking about HB ninety six.
Welcome back, Donovan. It's great having you on this morning, Brian.
Always good to be with you. I started off the
show on a bit of an angry note because apparently
(00:24):
in this budget bill, I don't know if they're still
considering it, but it's certainly in play. The idea given
the Cleveland Browns six hundred million dollars or some financial
assistance so they can build their two point four billion
dollar megaplex new stadium, and they're seeking one point two
billion dollars in taxpayer money to help fund this new
(00:44):
this new thing, and a lot of it's coming from
the Cuyahoga County, but at least the state taxpayers look
like they may be on the hook as well. I
know this isn't what you wanted to focus on this morning,
but it certainly got my anger up.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Well, yeah, happy to talk about it now. You know
it's part of the budget, right, and uh yeah, but
why that was I planned to talk about, right, And
that's our argument as well six hundred million dollars state
taxpayers coming out of this budget through bonded issue to
pay for brown Satan. Here's the deal, Brian. These things
(01:17):
never pan out. Despite the most conservative of conservative estimates
from special interest lobbyists who fight for these things, right
representing the Browns or any other group, they never pan
out the way they're being sold. And so you mean,
are the return on investment?
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yeah, they always claim the return on investment is going
to far exceed what the taxpayers are out. Oh my god,
it's going to generate so much jobs and so much income.
And that's a lie, that's not ever true. And they
just cook the books and just throw this out there
as if you know, thirteen games or however many games
are played in these massive complexes results in this net
(01:55):
advantage to all the taxpayers. It's nonsense.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah, you know, I think you know, when you look
at NFL teams, you look at you know, Fortune five
hundred corporations across the board. These folks continually come to
the taxpayers asking for a handout, asking to be asking
to have their investments covered, and promising economic development on
the back end. And again, none of that stuff ever
really pans out as good as it's sold. We want development, right,
(02:24):
We want people to put their projects here, We want
world class facilities. We just don't want the taxpayers to
have to be on the hook for these things. And
I think you look through history, regardless of the way
you structure these deals or what you do, and it
never quite hits the way that it's that it's sold
to the taxpayers, the lawmakers, by the special interest groups.
(02:45):
And so you know, in a budget that does a
lot of things in many ways, some good things, this
is one of those things that I think folks need
to continue to make sure their voice is heard on
and express their their frustrations and concerns.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
About all Right, Well, pivoting over to the subject matter
that you wanted to dwell on in connection with this bill,
let's talk about well, funding for schools. I know that
people had some wild ideas about how much money was
going to go to schools, and summer suggesting this is
a decline in amount of spending two hundred and twenty
(03:20):
six million dollars sort of burst in the bubble of
some that wanted a whole lot more funding for the
for the schools.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Well, yeah, those folks were making. You know, who are
complaining about that or are frustrated about that increase? I
think are FOOLI issue you're bran the idea. None of
this stuff is promised at the beginning of the process. Right,
we do a two year budget process. And you know,
anybody can say any number they're looking for they want,
but you can't say that, you know, you wanted a
(03:49):
billion and now that they are offering, they're the proposal
is two hundred and fifty million. That they've cut you
by seven hundred and fifty million, right right that it's
a sillyness. The reality is the state spending or state spending,
and that's pariament they're making.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Brian, I know where did one point eight billion dollars
come from? I think probably inspired via somebody's sphincter, But
that's not connected to anything close to reality.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
No, it's not in two hundred and fifty you know
million and some change. Isn't isn't any insignificant amount, especially
when you factor in, you know, appreciate Senate or Speaker
and Finance Chair Brian Stewart mentioning this the school districts
are sitting on a ten billion dollars cash bounce. This
(04:34):
is money in the account. Call it a rain day fund,
call it a you know, a savings account, whatever you
want to call it. The idea here is they got
this cash bounce, and they're sitting on the money. So
I think even the two hundred and fifty million they're
putting to the school districts that are already sitting on
a ton of cash is still two hundred and fifty
million more than we probably really need to be spending there,
(04:56):
especially when you look at the need to cut taxes,
rain and spending, and you know, ultimately accomplish what we
think should be done in education, which is funding families
by making that money follow the child.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Well, I'm all in favor of that because I believe
in the school choice. But you know, I guess the
teachers get a little bit of love. They got increases
the maximum amount of teachers can deduct from their state
income taxes for classroom expenses to a few hundred dollars,
which not bad, but certainly has some limitations. I like
the idea that the state also is reducing the size
and the scope of the Board of Education eleven elected
(05:32):
officials and eight appointed members, going down to five appointees.
A small cut, but a cut nonetheless, And I'm not
sure the State Board of Education serves the students in
the schools anyway.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Well, and this is something I think they're following through
ass some reforms made last session where they gotted the
state school board because you really had kind of this
situation where when people need to be held accountable on
education outcomes in the state, people would do that gesture
where they're pointing both ways, different ways, right, The reality
is they so they move that under the governor's authority,
(06:06):
so we know that if we're not getting the app
outcomes we're looking for an education in the state, the
governor the executive is ultimately the one accountable, and we
can engage the legislature to hold them accountable. So the
state school Board is a redundant function in many ways,
and so right sizing it to serve its purpose, which
is licensing of teachers, is a prudent move. You don't
(06:27):
need as many folks drawing a paychecker hanging out in Columbus.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Amen to that. Let's pause, We'll bring Donovan O'Neil back.
There's more to talk. Oh, we got to Claremont County
veteran services. Next, we can't do that. Well, let's just
pivot over to syntaxes. What is a sin, Donovan and Neil,
isn't the beauty in the ivy holder and isn't sort
of a syntax just a justification to put a tax
on literally anything you just designated as a syntax.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Oh yeah, And I mean I'm drinking a cup of
coffee in that. You know, that's sin for some is
the sin, right, But it puts me in a better
mood on a on a gloomy Wednesday morning. No, so,
you know, And that's the thing that I think is
really good that the legislature and as we were meeting
with members, they were, you know, they were hearing the
message a lot of care from constituents. De Wine had
proposed a number of different tax increases in his executive version.
(07:14):
The House Committee removed all of those tax increases, which
is a good is a good tone to send, right,
we don't need to be increasing taxes here in the
state of Ohio. And Subhouse Bold ninety six, uh does
that by by removing those from the executive version. I
think they're gone. I don't think we'll see them come back.
But has always remained vigilant.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
If there if we have a call to action before
we part company today, Donovan, what is it today to
get in touch with them and tell them that the
fund the Cleveland Browns or what else.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Well, you could certainly do that, but you know we
are consistently engaged you. There's a number of really good
policy pieces that are moving beyond the budget as well.
Get with get involved with us by going to buckeyeblueprint
dot com. You can sign up get in the fight.
We're having folks come to the state House. You can
join us. We'll set up meetings with your legislator. Buckeye
blue Print dot com Bucky blueprint dot com. And thanks
(08:02):
for AFP's actions and efforts in Wisconsin. I know it
didn't work out, but I know you're responsible for engaging
at least six hundred thousand Wisconsin residents and an effort
to get the conservative justice elected. Of course you were
dealing with an uphill challenge given the state of Wisconsin.
But thanks again for everything you do at Americans for Prosperity.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Donald O'Neill will have you on again real soon. Thanks
Brian my pleasure seven thirty seven fifty five KRCD talk station.
Thank you Joe Strecker for reminding me still. Steve Belzo
Claimant County Veteran Services coming up next about veteran ID cards.
We'll get to that after Affordable Imaging Services is given.
That props for me and getting ready to have my
image done. You. I think about a week CT scan
(08:42):
number three at Affordable Imaging Services save myself heaploads of
money because if I went to the hospital, it would
probably set me back maybe five grand, which is just
mind blowing to me. Since a Affordable Imaging Services and
a CT scan without a contrast is only four hundred
and fifty dollars. You get a contrast at six hundred.
Echo Cardiograms get you right in the door. You don't
(09:05):
have to wait a month like you would at a hospital,
and they'll only charge you five hundred dollars without an
enhancement eight hundred with it may set you back as
much as thirty five hundred dollars maybe more at the hospital.
Every image at Affordable Imaging Services comes with a board certified
radiologist report included that you and your doctor will both
get within forty eight hours. I know the prices are
hard to believe it's very low overhead there, but they
(09:26):
have the same kind of equipment hospitals are using, and
it's never been a problem for my physicians with the
CT scans I've gotten there. So go ahead exercise your choice.
Five one three seven five three eight thousand. That's seven
five three eight thousand. Learn more about pricing and information
at the website Affordable Medimaging dot com fifty five KRC.
The talk station brand Steenters kangaroof has provided except
Seven nine. If you about kerrise the talk station. Happy Wednesday, boy,
I'm so glad Americans for Prosperity, Donald and Neils joining
the program right now. I'm talking about HB ninety six.
Welcome back, Donovan. It's great having you on this morning, Brian.
Always good to be with you. I started off the
show on a bit of an angry note because apparently
(00:24):
in this budget bill, I don't know if they're still
considering it, but it's certainly in play. The idea given
the Cleveland Browns six hundred million dollars or some financial
assistance so they can build their two point four billion
dollar megaplex new stadium, and they're seeking one point two
billion dollars in taxpayer money to help fund this new
(00:44):
this new thing, and a lot of it's coming from
the Cuyahoga County, but at least the state taxpayers look
like they may be on the hook as well. I
know this isn't what you wanted to focus on this morning,
but it certainly got my anger up.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Well, yeah, happy to talk about it now. You know
it's part of the budget, right, and uh yeah, but
why that was I planned to talk about, right, And
that's our argument as well six hundred million dollars state
taxpayers coming out of this budget through bonded issue to
pay for brown Satan. Here's the deal, Brian. These things
(01:17):
never pan out. Despite the most conservative of conservative estimates
from special interest lobbyists who fight for these things, right
representing the Browns or any other group, they never pan
out the way they're being sold. And so you mean,
are the return on investment?
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yeah, they always claim the return on investment is going
to far exceed what the taxpayers are out. Oh my god,
it's going to generate so much jobs and so much income.
And that's a lie, that's not ever true. And they
just cook the books and just throw this out there
as if you know, thirteen games or however many games
are played in these massive complexes results in this net
(01:55):
advantage to all the taxpayers. It's nonsense.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah, you know, I think you know, when you look
at NFL teams, you look at you know, Fortune five
hundred corporations across the board. These folks continually come to
the taxpayers asking for a handout, asking to be asking
to have their investments covered, and promising economic development on
the back end. And again, none of that stuff ever
really pans out as good as it's sold. We want development, right,
(02:24):
We want people to put their projects here, We want
world class facilities. We just don't want the taxpayers to
have to be on the hook for these things. And
I think you look through history, regardless of the way
you structure these deals or what you do, and it
never quite hits the way that it's that it's sold
to the taxpayers, the lawmakers, by the special interest groups.
(02:45):
And so you know, in a budget that does a
lot of things in many ways, some good things, this
is one of those things that I think folks need
to continue to make sure their voice is heard on
and express their their frustrations and concerns.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
About all Right, Well, pivoting over to the subject matter
that you wanted to dwell on in connection with this bill,
let's talk about well, funding for schools. I know that
people had some wild ideas about how much money was
going to go to schools, and summer suggesting this is
a decline in amount of spending two hundred and twenty
(03:20):
six million dollars sort of burst in the bubble of
some that wanted a whole lot more funding for the
for the schools.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Well, yeah, those folks were making. You know, who are
complaining about that or are frustrated about that increase? I
think are FOOLI issue you're bran the idea. None of
this stuff is promised at the beginning of the process. Right,
we do a two year budget process. And you know,
anybody can say any number they're looking for they want,
but you can't say that, you know, you wanted a
(03:49):
billion and now that they are offering, they're the proposal
is two hundred and fifty million. That they've cut you
by seven hundred and fifty million, right right that it's
a sillyness. The reality is the state spending or state spending,
and that's pariament they're making.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Brian, I know where did one point eight billion dollars
come from? I think probably inspired via somebody's sphincter, But
that's not connected to anything close to reality.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
No, it's not in two hundred and fifty you know
million and some change. Isn't isn't any insignificant amount, especially
when you factor in, you know, appreciate Senate or Speaker
and Finance Chair Brian Stewart mentioning this the school districts
are sitting on a ten billion dollars cash bounce. This
(04:34):
is money in the account. Call it a rain day fund,
call it a you know, a savings account, whatever you
want to call it. The idea here is they got
this cash bounce, and they're sitting on the money. So
I think even the two hundred and fifty million they're
putting to the school districts that are already sitting on
a ton of cash is still two hundred and fifty
million more than we probably really need to be spending there,
(04:56):
especially when you look at the need to cut taxes,
rain and spending, and you know, ultimately accomplish what we
think should be done in education, which is funding families
by making that money follow the child.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Well, I'm all in favor of that because I believe
in the school choice. But you know, I guess the
teachers get a little bit of love. They got increases
the maximum amount of teachers can deduct from their state
income taxes for classroom expenses to a few hundred dollars,
which not bad, but certainly has some limitations. I like
the idea that the state also is reducing the size
and the scope of the Board of Education eleven elected
(05:32):
officials and eight appointed members, going down to five appointees.
A small cut, but a cut nonetheless, And I'm not
sure the State Board of Education serves the students in
the schools anyway.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Well, and this is something I think they're following through
ass some reforms made last session where they gotted the
state school board because you really had kind of this
situation where when people need to be held accountable on
education outcomes in the state, people would do that gesture
where they're pointing both ways, different ways, right, The reality
is they so they move that under the governor's authority,
(06:06):
so we know that if we're not getting the app
outcomes we're looking for an education in the state, the
governor the executive is ultimately the one accountable, and we
can engage the legislature to hold them accountable. So the
state school Board is a redundant function in many ways,
and so right sizing it to serve its purpose, which
is licensing of teachers, is a prudent move. You don't
(06:27):
need as many folks drawing a paychecker hanging out in Columbus.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Amen to that. Let's pause, We'll bring Donovan O'Neil back.
There's more to talk. Oh, we got to Claremont County
veteran services. Next, we can't do that. Well, let's just
pivot over to syntaxes. What is a sin, Donovan and Neil,
isn't the beauty in the ivy holder and isn't sort
of a syntax just a justification to put a tax
on literally anything you just designated as a syntax.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Oh yeah, And I mean I'm drinking a cup of
coffee in that. You know, that's sin for some is
the sin, right, But it puts me in a better
mood on a on a gloomy Wednesday morning. No, so,
you know, And that's the thing that I think is
really good that the legislature and as we were meeting
with members, they were, you know, they were hearing the
message a lot of care from constituents. De Wine had
proposed a number of different tax increases in his executive version.
(07:14):
The House Committee removed all of those tax increases, which
is a good is a good tone to send, right,
we don't need to be increasing taxes here in the
state of Ohio. And Subhouse Bold ninety six, uh does
that by by removing those from the executive version. I
think they're gone. I don't think we'll see them come back.
But has always remained vigilant.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
If there if we have a call to action before
we part company today, Donovan, what is it today to
get in touch with them and tell them that the
fund the Cleveland Browns or what else.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Well, you could certainly do that, but you know we
are consistently engaged you. There's a number of really good
policy pieces that are moving beyond the budget as well.
Get with get involved with us by going to buckeyeblueprint
dot com. You can sign up get in the fight.
We're having folks come to the state House. You can
join us. We'll set up meetings with your legislator. Buckeye
blue Print dot com Bucky blueprint dot com. And thanks
(08:02):
for AFP's actions and efforts in Wisconsin. I know it
didn't work out, but I know you're responsible for engaging
at least six hundred thousand Wisconsin residents and an effort
to get the conservative justice elected. Of course you were
dealing with an uphill challenge given the state of Wisconsin.
But thanks again for everything you do at Americans for Prosperity.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Donald O'Neill will have you on again real soon. Thanks
Brian my pleasure seven thirty seven fifty five KRCD talk station.
Thank you Joe Strecker for reminding me still. Steve Belzo
Claimant County Veteran Services coming up next about veteran ID cards.
We'll get to that after Affordable Imaging Services is given.
That props for me and getting ready to have my
image done. You. I think about a week CT scan
(08:42):
number three at Affordable Imaging Services save myself heaploads of
money because if I went to the hospital, it would
probably set me back maybe five grand, which is just
mind blowing to me. Since a Affordable Imaging Services and
a CT scan without a contrast is only four hundred
and fifty dollars. You get a contrast at six hundred.
Echo Cardiograms get you right in the door. You don't
(09:05):
have to wait a month like you would at a hospital,
and they'll only charge you five hundred dollars without an
enhancement eight hundred with it may set you back as
much as thirty five hundred dollars maybe more at the hospital.
Every image at Affordable Imaging Services comes with a board certified
radiologist report included that you and your doctor will both
get within forty eight hours. I know the prices are
hard to believe it's very low overhead there, but they
(09:26):
have the same kind of equipment hospitals are using, and
it's never been a problem for my physicians with the
CT scans I've gotten there. So go ahead exercise your choice.
Five one three seven five three eight thousand. That's seven
five three eight thousand. Learn more about pricing and information
at the website Affordable Medimaging dot com fifty five KRC.
The talk station brand Steenters kangaroof has provided except
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