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April 8, 2025 • 23 mins
Former Vice Mayor of Cincinnati Christopher Smitherman joins for his weekly Smither-Vent.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Seven, nineteen fifty five Carosity Talk Station. It is that
time of week. I always look forward to it. Former
Vice Mayor of the City of Cincinnati, Christopher Smithan, joins
the program every Monday at this time to do what
we call the Smither Event. Christopher, Welcome back to the
fifty five care Morning Show, My Charrosee Morning Show, My friend.
It's always a pleasure having you on.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Oh brother, thank you so much for having me on.
And I tell you I'm praying for all the people
across our countries are who are being impacted by the flooding.
Oh yes, all that's all children who lost their lives,
you know, older people, people that are that are devastated.
They're losing their property. And the only thing I'll say
out loud, and I know you know you you your

(00:41):
heart goes out too, is people have to just drive carefully,
like think about what you're doing out there. There's a
lot of water on our highways. Hydro Planing is real,
and that's kind of the method that I sent out
there to to my family. Just be careful and take
your time. And this water is not going to receive
probably all week we're going to get more. So we
just have to be careful and waited out. But my

(01:03):
heart goes out to all the people across the Midwest
and across the country down in the South who've lost
a lot, you know, by the rainfall that we've had.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yeah, I saw that one video that there was a
house floating down the river or somebody's entire house got
washed away, you know, And that kind of thing does
happen in flooding. But you know, as you point out,
there are steps you can take to protect yourselves and
don't take any chances driving through flooded roads. I mean,
sometimes it can be a lot deeper than you think.
Your car could get washed away. You're certainly having a

(01:35):
possibility of the engine stalling out. I mean, there's not
a whole lot of cars out there in the world
that have snorkels on them that allow the intake to
continue to consume air. So you know, don't don't be
stupid about the water on the roads.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Man. No, and six inches of water, I mean, you
don't know what you don't know if you if you
have some type of major pothole, you know, due to that,
you're dealing with water that's contaminating it. You step on
a nail or something, and and and and now your impacted.
That was so you just have to be you just
have to be very very careful. Yeah, here's what I

(02:09):
would say.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
And this is the first time we waited real quick here,
since this is the first time we've talked, I cannot
tell you how how upset, sorry, and frustrated I was
for having missed our our lunch appointment on Friday.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Man.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
It just I felt so badly for I just kind
of went into my typical Friday zone out mode after
the show's over, and I zoned out completely. And I
feel like I really let you down.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Man.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
I was looking forward to that too.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Brother, we will get together and and it will it will,
it will come together. Is it is no problem. You know.
What I want to do is just shout out to you.
I had a great conversation with Corey Bowman's running for mayor,
and I just want to say it was a great,
great meeting, great conversation. It was. It was very nice
meeting his wife, who is expecting their fourth child. And

(03:01):
I would encourage other people who who you know, when
when candidate Bowman is out there running, that they take
the time no matter what their political persuasion is to
take the time to get to know them. So I
just want to share with you there's a primary coming up,
obviously there's a general election. I was very excited and

(03:22):
enjoyed my conversation with him, and I'm going to endorse him.
So I'm asking other people to look at him very
very closely. You know. You know, we're as an independent
and as a person who's been out in politics. I
don't tell anybody how to vote. I can just tell
them this is what I'm thinking as I look at
what's happening in the city of Cincinnati as it relates
to infrastructure, crime. Our CRS pension obviously is getting banged

(03:48):
up real bad, you know, over the past a week.
But that matters when you're sending out ten million dollars
a month to retirees. So we've got to make sure
that we are electing people that are very interested in
dealing with the financial situation that the city is under.
So I want to publicly say a great conversation with him,
and I definitely will endorse him in the primary and

(04:10):
in the general election against our current mayor.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Well, I'm glad to hear that.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
You know, obviously, I think it's I expected that in
a way, Christopher, because I know you and I know
you're all about logic, common sense, and reason, and you've
got your issues with the current administration. And I think
Corey does represent a refreshing alternative to what has become
the norm in the city of Cincinnati. He's going to
have an uphill challenge that you got to admit with.
And I don't think that the makeup of council is

(04:38):
going to change. I mean, individuals may be different, but
it's still going to be a bunch of Democrats. Knowing
how blue the city is, well, what.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
I can say is that you know, there's some big
things that are going on. If we're following what's happening
in High Park. As an example, there's a major hotel
that they're trying to put up where many people in
High Park are saying they're not follow the law, which
is another way of saying they're not following the code,
and they're trying to put something up that's really really
big and tall, and they feel like it's going to

(05:09):
impact the Highe Park Square area. And I'm sharing with
you High Park residents are waking up, and I think
as they organize. They're going to be looking at people
like a Corey Bowman, or they're going to be looking
at different council members. And what I will share with
you is their moments in Cincinnati history where there are

(05:29):
things that happen that change elections. This could be one
of those based on what's happening in High Park because
right now they don't feel like people at city Hall
are listening. The fifty one neighborhoods, yes, right, the other
fifty one neighborhoods are waking up, going hold on city
Council and the mayor aren't listening to us. We're saying
we don't we're not against development, we just don't want

(05:52):
this thing that's too big, too tall. We wanted to
fit in with our square and they just are not
getting the kind of support that they thought they should get.
So look for High Park and places like not lookout
to be waken up and that that could be a
big opening for Corey Bowman.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
It really could, and we all know Hyde Park is
a rather wealthy community and that could result in some
campaign contributions going into Corey's coffers, which he could certainly use.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
And in fact, since we mentioned Corey.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
He's got an event of Price sal Chile beginning at
five pm tomorrow evening if you want to meet him.
He's really approachable, He's a very friendly guy, and he
just absolutely loves this city. I mean, he has expressed
just a profound love for the city of Cincinnati, and
it comes through loud and clear, not just in his
you know, his positive attitude about the city, but I
think in what his platform is. You can go to

(06:39):
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(07:00):
H seven thirty here, fifty buck here. So you talk
station Brian Thomas, engage in a conversation with Christopher Smitheman
this Smither event. Christopher, what else is on your mind today?

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Well, Stephanie Turner, who is a United States of America
of fencer, took a knee yeah, in the last four
or five days, and it just continues to blow me away,
Brian Thomas, that we're still having these national discussions about
female sports. I want to again make it clear that

(07:36):
men should not be competing against women in their sports.
It is a safe place for women. How can you
how can you be in Women's History Month that we
just finished, or say that you're a dad, you got
a daughter. You know you're a dad, or you're a
mom and you have a daughter and you think it's okay,

(08:00):
hey for a dude to compete against your daughter in
any sport. I mean, it's We're just we're swinging so
far to the left on some of these common sense discussions.
But to have this woman be so courageous to say
I'm taking a knee. I am not going to fence

(08:20):
a man. I'm not, and I guarantee you as a fencer,
she has been practicing and competing her whole life, and
for her to take a knee like that right probably
disqualified her and put her in a very bad position
as she's trying to advance in her sport. And I'm
just saying I want to commend her for having the courage,

(08:41):
But again, it just it gives me another moment to
say she's right, and I am tired of the Democratic
Party continuing to push this agenda. You know that men
should be competing against women and boys should be competing
against girls in their sports. Brian Thomas, I think it's
outrageous and I think that we have to continue to

(09:03):
be outspoken about it so girls and women understand that
there are men that are standing in solidarity with them,
saying that this is a safe place. And I'm a
person that supports the LGBTQ plus community. I'm not this
anti gay person. I'm saying this is too far. It
has nothing to do with LGBTQ plus issues. Keep men

(09:27):
out of women's sports.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah, and you know, I'm on record is agreeing with
you completely on that one. And you know I've always
used the illustration just look at the world records. Look
at the world records in any given sport. You know,
I like your daughter's a swimmer. I mean the fifty
free fifty meters freestyle, the male record is I think
two or three seconds faster than the world record for

(09:50):
the females. Why because men have a physical advantage over women,
and there's no arguing against that. And you know, when
you think about transgender individuals, I'm not even gonna argue
about you. Listen, I believe you believe you're the opposite sex.
I'm not arguing with you over that. You're entitled to
your beliefs. Maybe you need psychological help, maybe you think
you don't whatever. I can live into the same banner

(10:12):
of freedom as that person. But when it comes to
actual fairness in competition, just because you say you're a woman,
you shouldn't be allowed to compete against women because of
that unfair natural physical advantage you have done.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
End of story. I don't know. I mean we're supposed to.
It is common sense.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
We're supposed to and and the other component of this,
it always bothers me, Christopher, is that you and I
are supposed to change our belief system to cater to
their belief Now, I know for a fact, even if
you do transgender surgery, you lop parts off or you

(10:53):
sew them on, your chromosomal reality is not altered.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
Buy that.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
That's a scientific fact. And I'm supposed to just accept that. No,
you're a woman, now what No, I'm not gonna do that.
I'll let you live your life that way. Fine, I'll
you know, You'm brace. I could be friends with you,
but don't expect me to change my mindset when mine
is based on scientific reality.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
This is why so many Democrats continue to say that
they did not leave the Democratic Party, but the Democratic
Party left them. Yeah, and they keep moving in this direction,
putting our girls and our women in these unsafe environments.
There was a there was a story out of a
field hockey game where there was a man competing against

(11:42):
This is a college game, it's my understanding. But he
threw that puck so hard that it knocked her teeth
out in the front, like some of her front teeth.
This is this is unsafe, Brian Thomas, and I'm going
to continue to stand with them. And again, Stephan he
turned her, had a lot of courage to take a

(12:02):
knee because she's gonna pay a price. He's not like, oh,
she's not gonna pay a price. To anybody that's listening,
this is a woman who took who took a knee
and said I'm not doing this, and and the and
the bottom line is we need more women out there
saying this is too far. And I just want to
verbally stand in solidarity with her. I had the opportunity

(12:24):
to speak at Oak Hills last week. Uh, there's a
there's a great coach out there, Coach Price, their superintendent,
Jeff Brandt, and Pastor Kirk, who actually is the pastor
for the Reds. He's there, he's there, he's their pastor
for the for the Cincinnati Reds. And a friend of mine,
Eric Keaton, got me out there to talk to them.

(12:45):
And again this was to their athletes, right and so
when in that room, right as I'm sitting there thinking
I would not want men competing against our boys, competing
against the girls that I was speaking to, and I
wouldn't want a man competing against a woman. And so
they are all in agreement and a cord that we've

(13:06):
got to keep these safe places. But it was a
great time. I enjoyed meeting all of the staff and
faculty out at Oak Hills, and I look forward to
going back and talking to them again. Brian Thomas, I
want to share with you Corey Bowman sent me a
text message. Early voting starts tomorrow for the mayor's race
for the primary, So at the end of the day,

(13:28):
you know, people don't even know probably that that primary
kicks off tomorrow. This is the last day to register
the voter, to update your address. And so yet again
I want to encourage he can't run. He can't run
for mayor if he doesn't win the primary. So this
is the first step. So people shouldn't sit it out.
They should show up and vote for Corey Bowman.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Appreciate the reminder on that one. Let's spring Christopher back
for a few more minutes. We're gonna pause. I'll mention
play if it's about Garrosed Station. Ryan Thommins with the
former vice mayor of the City of since sing Christopher
Smithman at vote Smithmen on your ex accounts, how you
reach Christopher?

Speaker 3 (14:07):
What else do your mind to day?

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Christopher, Brother, We've got some federal courts that are just
going wild out here, and it's my understanding there about
six hundred of them, these judges that keep trying to
control the executive branch of the United States of America.
And for me, it doesn't matter with the libertarian parts

(14:29):
of my politics, or the independent part of my politics,
or the Republican parts of my politics. You know, the
reality of it is, we have a separation of power
for a reason. And so it's really important for citizens
to understand, no matter what their politics are, that separation

(14:50):
is there for a reason. And these courts are going crazy.
It is so unacceptable, and I am shocked that the
Supreme Court may happy opportunity having clarified the power of
these courts. So the reality of it is, I pray
that these deportations of gang members of who are called

(15:12):
MS thirteen gang members, no matter what the gang they're
involved in. And my understanding is they're arresting some of
these people Brian Thomas, right out of suburban homes. You know,
they've got their kids out there, I'm a dad whatever,
boom boom bam. But they're living next to somebody who's
a gang member. And maybe the people in the community
didn't even know it. But you're living here illegally. You

(15:35):
came illegally, you're living here illegally. And these courts are
trying to intervene and give people who have jumped the fence,
broken the prompt the process. Other people that came here
legally and followed the process. They're trying to reward them
in some kind of way. So this is a very
interesting fight that I'm watching very closely, and I really

(15:56):
hope the executive branch wins here for all of us.
I don't want to see courts undermining elections when you
have a person who was elected, no matter who they are,
by the United States of America, to have a court
try to tell them what they can and cannot do
with their executive power.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Yeah, and of course I firmly believe that we need
to reform our immigration laws to provide some extra clarity
on who we can kick out. And you know, the
idea of being able to throw someone out without going
through this long and arduous process. Now, I mean, we're
so backed up in these immigration hearings. What are they
like seven or eight years of backups. You come into

(16:36):
the country, you get a free pass to come into
the Biden administration's policies, and.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
Then you wait around for a hearing.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
And meanwhile these people just sort of disappear into the
ether because the process is so slow, and they don't
bother showing up to the hearings when the hearing date
actually comes around.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
I'm just I'm torn on this and the other component
of this. We talk about this with the politano and
people get all outrage and upset about it. But we
do have a due process clause in the constitution now
to declare someone is a gang member, that's one thing,
and they may very well be. But you know, if
someone showed up at your door and said you're a
gang member, we're kicking you out of the country, you

(17:12):
might want to argue that, no, I'm not a member
of a gang, and you better kind to prove it
in the court of law that I'm actually a member
of a gang if I'm going to fall into some
you know, process that allows you to throw me out
of the country. So I'm torn and mixed in my
emotions being a you know, a constitutionally based person.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
I think in this particular case that different agencies had
defined this guy as a gang member, that he had
been involved, you know. And one of the things that
that's been driving me crazy with some of these college
students right who are here. It's a privilege, but then
you come here saying you support Hermas, You're you're demonstrating

(17:54):
we're not talking about your free speech, we're talking about
your behavior. You're throwing bricks through windows, you're setting things
on fire. That doesn't give you the right to stay
in this country. So when people argue and they say, well,
this person has their freedom of speech, they're not being
thrown out because of what they said. They're being thrown
out because of what they did their actions. So they're

(18:18):
things that you cannot do. And the other thing is
you can't go into any other country and act like
this and not find yourself in a prison and then
they might not let you out for five or ten years. Right,
we're very gracious in the United States about allowing some
of the things that we have seen happen over the
last four years. Look, brother, I want to close by
saying our markets are going crazy. You know what I

(18:40):
do for a living as a financial planner, and I'm
going to be very cautious about what I can and
cannot say. But I want to explain to your listening
audience that margin calls are real. That people have gone out,
they borrowed money for security that they own in their
brokerage accounts, and some of this selling that we're seeing

(19:01):
are what are called margin calls, where people are being
called up meaning and say you've got to make your
accounts hold. I've never done it. I don't buy things
on margin. I don't buy things with loans when I'm
buying securities. But you're going to see some of that,
most likely that action and you don't know why that
person next to you is having to sell. But some

(19:21):
of this has to be because of some margin calls,
because people were not anticipating this kind of a decline,
and so as we go lower, those margin calls accelerate.
That client has to either put the money in or
they have to or the broker's firm will have to
sell that security. So it looks it's still orderly, is
what I'm seeing. I'm seeing something that's orderly, and I'm

(19:43):
not in this kind of panic mode. Listen to your
financial advisors and those financial professionals who are working with you.
Do not get emotionally charged by some of the things
that you're happening in the market action. I still see
an orderly market out here, and some of this I
think is absolutely based on people who have taken loans

(20:03):
out and are getting margin calls.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Yeah, I understand that completely, And you know I'm I
never checked my four oh one K plan, Christopher, because
especially when markets go down like this, I don't want
to get anxiety. They always end up going back at
some point. I mean, look at how bad the markets
got routed during COVID. I mean people lost, you know,
one third of their entire retirement account. But if you
didn't touch it, you left it there, you gained it

(20:26):
all back and then some. So you've you've seen these
cycles before, Christopher, I have.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
And I just say that, you know there are people
out there that are working with a lot of people
and seek that advice and work with those financial professionals
to make sure you're not making an emotional decision. It's
a logical decision. And I just want to close out
by again just where I started, you know, because the
election starts tomorrow and Corey Bowman is on the ballot

(20:55):
in a primary, and they typically the primaries are very thin.
A lot of people don't participate in primaries. So people
should know that the election for mayor has started. It
starts tomorrow, and people should get out there and vote
for Corey Bowman. I want to see a change in
city Hall. You know, the pothole situation is still ridiculous.

(21:16):
The snow removal when we had it was ridiculous. Our
Cincinnati retirement system is still in trouble. This the market
action that we're seeing right now is not making that
any better brand. And so we need to elect furious
people right who are interested in solving some of the
bigger problems that Cincinnati has before it's too late. I

(21:38):
don't want somebody playing this radio interview that you and
I are having saying Smitherman's been talking about the Cincinnati
retirement system. We're the only city in the state of
Ohio that has a retirement system, and when the retirement
system goes under, so does the City of Cincinnati. Every
taxpayer in the City of Cincinnati is responsible for bailing

(21:59):
out the city SINNTI retirement system. And when I left,
it still had an eight hundred million dollar unfunded liability.
That liability is going to continue to expand over time.
There was about two point one billion two point two
billion in assets and we needed to have three billion.
And so as long as we continue to elect people
that take their eye off the ball and they're down

(22:20):
there talking about what's happening in Israel and Hamah, I'm
talking about on the floor of city councils passing resolutions
about what's going on in Israel and Hamas. They are
not serious about solving the big problems that Cincinnati has,
and I just say sometimes the smaller things are the

(22:40):
things that they should be focused on that are most
important to the citizens, like potholes. I'm tired of driving
over them my tires and I know they're citizens that
are listening that their tires were blown out. And then
you don't get a response. The city won't reimburse the citizens.
They tell you that there's a process, but when you
try to get into the process, and if you can't
get in, the profits and so please go out there again.

(23:04):
Vote for Corey Bowman for mayor in this primary and
vote for him in the general election. Brian Thomas, I
appreciate you so much giving me the time and the
voice on your show on Mondays from seven to twenty
until about a quarter tail of ten minutes to eight.
I appreciate you, Thank you, and.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
I appreciate you brother. Take the weight off my shoulders,
and I always love what you have to say. We'll
talk again next Monday. Have a wonderful week. My friend
just shout at seven fifteen fifty five Krciti talk station.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
You wake up with joint pain? Is it hurt doing
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