55KRC Wednesday Morning Show -- 4/16/25

Dan Carroll talks about America's trade war with China with attorney and host of the Modern Federalist podcast Charlton Allen, the state of American energy with Daniel Turner of Power the Future and President Ken Kober of the Fraternal Order of Police discusses the Short Vine shooting of Kyle Mirick.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hop to be dug up what news will be next.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm not a prophet. The Glenn Beck Program week days
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krc DE talk station five o five. On this Wednesday morning,
the day after, the day after, I send in my
tax returns Sean McMahon. I got him in under the wire,
so that massive burden has been relieved from my shoulders.
I feel like I feel like I'm walking around this

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morning twenty pounds later, well maybe one hundred pounds lighter
at that's a lot to carry around, man. Yeah, the
wallet was lightened considerably. But you know, just having that
you know when when you when you press that button
and you send them off and I did the electronic filing.

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It's sad to see that, uh, that check. You know,
that that amount of money, uh, you know, the drift
away and you know it'll it'll never see the light
of day again. But it's a it's a it's a relief,
and I imagine there's a lot of people listening to
this show this morning they are feeling that same sense

(01:31):
of relief that that their taxes have been taken care of.
You got that behind you, and I'm swearing next year,
I'm not gonna wait until the last minute. Yeah, we
will see, we will see what happens. But no, I said,
I said, there, I do mine on the turbo tax
and when you send it in, you get a you

(01:55):
get an update when the federal government accepts your tax,
RED says, you get a little email, you get a
little text message, and it says, good news, Dan, your
federal tax return has been accepted. And so the the
early evening was waning on last night, and I had

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not received an update about my state taxes, and I
went back and before I could put my head down,
I went and made sure that my state taxes were
indeed filed, but I had not had an update that
my taxes were accepted. Literally two minutes ago, right as
we came on the air with the newscast, I got
an update that my state return had been accepted. So

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I'm in good shape. So I don't have that hanging
over my head. What am I going to talk about today?
It is that the show prep yesterday for this show
and the show prep that I did this morning. It
was one of those days where I had to tell
myself it's time to stop it is. It is time
to stop because there are so many things that are

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going on. To talk about. One of the things that
we're going to do. In one hour from now, I'm
going to be joined by a guest. First time I've
had this guy on. His name is Charlton Allen. Charlton
Allen is an attorney, former Chief Executive of Officer and
Chief Judicial Officer of the North Carolina Industrial Commission. He

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is the founder of the Madison Center for Law and Liberty.
He is the editor of The American Salient and the
host of the Modern Federalist podcast. And Charlton Allen about
a week or ten days ago wrote a piece and
American Thinker. And American Thinker is a great website. I
go there and enjoy some of the commentary, and sometimes

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I just flat out read him on the air because
some of the commentary that you get there is just
so outstanding. And I've been looking for I am not
an expert when it comes to tariffs, when it comes
to the economy, when it comes to international trade, things
like that, So I look for the opinions. I look

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for information of others provided by others to round out
my thinking on these ideas, and Charlton Allen wrote a
piece entitled we didn't start the trade war, we finally
joined it. And he goes on to talk about and
make clear how other countries have had a leg up

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on the United States when it comes to trade policy,
when it comes to terrors, when it comes to things
like that, and he talks about how far America is
behind in certain areas that are going to wind up
being extremely important and should have been important for the
United States and have been neglected for so for so long.

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Let's see, he writes this. Trump's teriffic tariffs expose the
lie at the heart of the globalist dogma that trade
liberalization is a rising tide that lifts all boats. It
does not. This is particularly true when so called free
trade is in fact one sided. The bitter truth is
that our nation, or our national trade structure, has lifted

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luxury yachts in Shanghai, luxury sedans in Bavaria, while hallowing
out steel mills machine shops in Ohio and Missouri factory towns.
The larger context is even more damming. The United States
no longer makes what it needs. We offshore our factories,
outsource our supply chains, surrender our economy's core sectors to

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competitors and adversaries. China controls eighty percent of rare earth
mineral processing, and there's news this morning about that actually
broke yesterday about China and rareer So we will talk
to him about that. Let me let me get to
the let me get to the part where he talks

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about manufacturing and here in the United States, Where did
that go? Where did that go? Let me know if
I had it up here just a second. Of course,
you know when you're when you're scrolling through and and
you think you want to find something, But then in
any case, the guy is going to be here. And
I'm really looking forward to this conversation because he just

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has a way of writing about it and uh and
laying it out that I think makes a lot of
sense to everybody. And you know, I'll ask him to
explain his position on some of these issues that he
talks about. So I'm looking forward to that. It's unusual
that I don't record a lot of interviews ahead of time.

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Every once in a while i'll record an interview and
use it during the case during the course of the show.
But this one is going to be live after the
news at six, and so I invite you to to
stay around. Stick around for that. Yeah, here's what he

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writes about the other countries. Germany taxes US automobiles at
four times the rate we impose on THEIRS. France blocks
US agricultural products through protectionist quotas and byzantine regulations. South Korea,
despite a free trade degree, it maintains tariff and non
tariff barriers on US beef, pork, and automotive parts. These
aren't historical artifacts of little significance. They are systemic disadvantages

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designed to extract concessions from America while giving little or
nothing in return. And so this is the sort of
trade imbalance that that's the one sort of thing that
the Trump looks at that I think drives him, you know,
drives him crazy, almost more than anything else that they
have all you know, all these other countries. I think

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China is a separate case, but all these other countries
they have all this access to American markets and we
do not have the same sort of access to THEIRS.
And when you boil it down, I think that's really
that's really the nut of the whole thing. Another guest
is going to be Daniel Turner. That'll be in the
eight o'clock hour. Power of the Future. Just a great commentary,

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great insight on all things happening, political, economic, and otherwise.
And Daniel Turner is just a super smart guy. He's
a regular. See he's a regular on Fox News, Fox
Business News, and he's been a regular guest of mine
on the other shows that I do. And he's going
to be here at eight and then Ken Cober, the FOP.
I talked a little bit about this when I had

(08:38):
James Bogan on yesterday and we were talking about this
young man, the twenty five year old father of two
killed in Coryville over the weekend, and some information started
coming out late what Monday into Tuesday about this fifteen
year old who is accused of gunning this guy down

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and the teenager who was arrested by Cincinnati police. It
has now the information has come out. Fox nineteen has
had a look at the at the court records of
this kid, and it turns out this guy's got a
lengthy juvenile history. Several months ago, in November of twenty four,

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court records show the fifteen year old was accused of
firing a gun. Ken kober says, if the teen had
not been let out of juvenile attention for the November crime,
myrack or Mirick, I'm sorry, it would still be alive.
Who didn't see this coming. You look at his criminal record,
you see more charges than he has years on this earth.

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Court documents show this team has sixteen previous charges starting
from when he was just thirteen years old. So between
the age thirteen and the age when he finally killed
someone at fifteen, sixteen previous charges. And what's the use?

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What's the use if Cincinnati police go out and arrest
these people, arrest these juveniles and they simply go through
the revolving door in the court system here in Hamilton
County and they're back out on the street, hanging out
late at night. I don't know how late it was,

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but hanging out at night in possession of a gun,
assaulting people, attacking people, and ultimately killing people. These judges
that run the juvenile court over there, I'm tired of
hearing about how there's you know, there's nothing they can do.

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I'm tired of it. You get so you get a
kid with thirteen contacts with the juveniles system between the
age of thirteen and fifteen. You got to do something.
You gotta do something. I'm sure there are some kids
out there that deserve a second chance. Some kids out

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there that I guess, depending on their situation, can put
these sorts of things behind them, move on have a
decent life. But some kids cannot be helped. I don't
know the history of this kid. I don't know what
his parental situation is, but at some point, responsible adults

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have to step in and protect the community. And that
certainly appears that that did not happen in this particular case,
and now a family is mourning the loss of a
twenty five year old father. Five sixteen, We've got to
get to a break. Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas. Fifty
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Speaker 1 (12:00):
Fifty five krc When You're Sump Pump.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Fifty time krc DE talks Station Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas.
And I didn't mean to go off on a little tangent,
and I get stuck on this fifteen year old kid
with the long juvenile record. I just wanted to sort
of to go through some of the highlights or some
of the headlines of stuff that we have to talk
about during the course of today. But that's what happened.

(12:31):
B Ken Kober will be here about eight thirty and
we'll talk to him about that. Absolutely horrible. What are
some of the headlines we've got today were rare earth
minerals affected by China export ban, used in ebes, green energy,
military at tech and apparently the United States has plenty

(12:55):
of rare earth minerals, we just don't refine it, and
so we need to get up to speed on that.
And there's some thinking out there that that can happen
rather quickly, and I would like to see that happen.
This thing between Trump and Harvard getting very serious. Trump

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administration is freezing two point three billion in Harvard funding.
Why does Harvard need two point three billion in funding
from American taxpayers? Anyone got a good explanation for that?
I don't see Harvard winning that one. Trump suggests that

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Harvard lose its tax exempt status because they they're not
really going to do they. I guess they want to
give some lip service when it comes to anti Semitic
activity happening on the campus and Jewish students there in
a constant state of danger. They're giving lips first to that.

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But probably not really looking to do anything serious about it.
So the Trump administration is cutting off the money. We'll
see how that goes. Let's see. You know, Harvard says
that we'll not comply with the Trump administration is demands.
So they're digging in and they've got a fifty three

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billion dollar endowment they don't need. They do not need
any money from the federal government. They don't need it.
I mean, if the endowment, what do what if if
you know, the these schools have these endowments, We've got

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all this money socked away, what do they use that for?
What's it there for? If? Is it a rainy day fund?

Speaker 3 (14:53):
Is?

Speaker 2 (14:56):
And they you know, they've got all this money socked away,
and they continue to have this huge stream of money
that comes in from the federal government, that comes in
from tuition, all this other stuff they've they've got that
fifty three billion, you know, dig into that.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
A little bit.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Knock yourself out, Harvard. There's a guy who threatened to
assassinate Tulsea Gabbard. He's been arrested. Trump is going to
skip the White House correspondence dinner, which is kind of
a shame because Trump can deliver jokes, probably better than
the vast majority of people who are going to show

(15:33):
up to the White House Correspondence Center, certainly better than
the comedians or the entertainers that they typically bring into
these events. But he is not going to be part
of that, and I don't I really, I gave up
watching those things a long time ago. Let's see Kamala

(15:56):
Harris still thinking about her political future. Absolute Joe Joe
Biden was out making some speeches or made a speech
last night, and there was a lot of build up
to this. Who in their right mind would go to
a Joe Biden speech, But I guess he was in Chicago.

(16:20):
I didn't see any video of the size of the crowd,
but it sounded just based on the applause that I heard,
it sounded sparse. It sounded like there was a lot
of a lot of empty space in that room. Hard
to tell when you can't you don't have pictures or

(16:43):
video of the size of the crowd, But just based
on what the applause sounded like, it didn't sound like
there were a whole lot of people there. So we've
got a couple of cuts of Joe Biden and the
speech got off to a pretty rough start, so we'll
roll some of that as the as the program rolls
on today. But right now we got to get to
a little break and we'll check traffic and weather. Well,

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we had traffic coming up in a little bit, but
we'll check the weather at least a little news at
the bottom of the hour. Now we don't that's the
wrong station. We don't have we had searm Man. We
don't have news at the bottom of the hour. Do
negative you know I've been here for three days now
you think I would I would know that. But a
whole lot more to get to and we hope you
can stick around for it.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Fifty five KRC the talk station, fifty five KRC.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
Do you have a master? Five thirty on this the
Wednesday morning? Damn Caeryl from Brian Thomas. We take a
look at little local news and it turns out our

(17:52):
Congressman Greg Landsman doing very well in the stock market.
Congratulations to him. A Channel nine reporting that according to
financial disclose or disclosure records, Greg Lansman and his wife
recently sold hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of stocks.
Amid the ongoing US trade war and volatility in the

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stock market. Landsman, who represents Cincinnati, and his wife sold
hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of stocks in March,
though the exact amount is unclear. An analysis by The
Journal News found that the sales combined are valued between
three hundred and seventy nine thousand dollars and one point
four four million dollars. So congratulations to Greg Landsman cashing

(18:37):
in on the stock market. It's fantastic. In the fall
of twenty four Landsman failed to disclose trading activities on time,
it reached illegal requirements under the twenty twelve Stock Act.
The law requires members of Congress to and certain family
members to file reports within thirty to four five days

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after receiving notice of a transaction exceeding one thousand dollars.
Several members of Congress from Ohio, both passed and president,
are Stock Act violators, according to The Journal News, among
them A Warren Davidson, Marcy Captor, Steve Shabbitt, and David
Joyce of Bainbridge Township. The twenty twelve Stock Act really

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had one major purpose, which was to prevent members of
Congress from insider trading, said David Nivin. You see political
science professor insider trading. Hard to imagine that Greg Landsman
has anything to do with that, isn't it. Landsman co

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sponsoring the Trust Act in Congress, which, if an active,
would require Congress to an select family members to place
investments in a blind trust to avoid potential conflicts of interests.
But for now he's Uh, he's moving socks around and
benefiting mightily, and good for him. That is a great news.

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Let's see what else do we have. Wah wah is open,
Sean McMahon, you've been to a wah wah yet? No,
But I've been to a BUCkies. I've been. He's been
to I've been to a BUCkies. I have not been
to a wah wah. The doors are open, and let's see,
this is a Liberty Township, Ohio.

Speaker 5 (20:37):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
The doors to the first wah wah are set to open.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
The popular convenience store chain officially opens. It says Wednesday,
So I guess that's today. Some vi P customers got
uh pture the store a little taste of wah wah.
I wasn't invited to that event, so I guess I'm
not a vi I P. The local was packed with
enthusiastsic customers counting down to the moment. I would That's

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another thing I would not do. I would not wait outside.
Remember when the Krispy Creams would open around here, there
would always be a lining outside, people wanting to be
the first one to get in the Krispy Creme that
we the other there was some other I think the
chick fil As. When the Chick fil As first started

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coming into the Tri State area, there would always be
that line out there. And I guess that if at
least with the Chick fil A, I think what you
got was a year's worth of Chick fil A. I
think you could go in there and get one or
two sandwiches a day something like that for a year.

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So that's not a bad that's not a bad thing
to have. I don't know if I would eat a
Chick fil A every single day. I like Chick fil A.
I don't know that I would eat one every single day,
but you know, having that, having that in your back
pocket is not a bad thing. But I still would
not wait in line. But I guess apparently there are

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people waiting in line at the wall. If you've been
to the wah Wah in Liberty Township. Fill us in,
let us know what what you got there. The East
Coach Stained unveiled its breakfast sandwiches, Coffee Hogy type sandwiches.
So the wah Walls are opening in Greater Cincinnati. That

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is very cool. I have been to a BUCkies and
it took me a while. I remember the first couple
of times we saw one and we said, okay, we're
going to stop in there, and then the line to
get the cars that were waiting to go to the
BUCkies that were backed off the ramp and onto the highway,

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so that if you actually had to come to a
stop on the highway to get on the ramp to
get off the ramp to go to the BUCkies. I said, no,
I'm not doing that. So we waited and several weeks passed,
and then we had a chance to go to another BUCkies,
and this time we were able to actually pull into the

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parking lot there, find a place to park, and then
walk on him. But I am not waiting. I am
not waiting, especially I'm not parking on the on the
highway waiting to get off the ramp to go to
a BUCkies or any establishment for that matter. Five point
thirty five Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas fifty five KRC.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
The talk station fifty five KRC in this edition.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
On this Wednesday morning, the day after Tax Day, Dan
Carroll for Brian Thomas saw this as I was getting
ready for the show today, that Vaughn P. Drake has
passed away, a Central Kentucky native, the oldest known survivor
of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor December seventh, nineteen

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forty one, Von P. Drake. According to Pacific Historic Parks, Drake,
who was twenty three at the time, was serving in
the US Army and he helped to build the barracks
at the Kenoe Naval Air Station on the east side
of O Wahoo. His job was to run a temporary
power plant so the carpenters and had electricity for their equipment.

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We were getting ready to go to breakfast and we
heard all these planes flying over, making a lot of noise,
Drake said during an interview with the Lexington Herald Leader
in twenty sixteen. At first they thought it was the
Army Air Corps doing maneuvers. They didn't pay much attention
except to comment that they were putting on a good show.
Then an officer told them that the island was under

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attack and they saw a bomb hit one of their buildings.
He says, we knew by then that we had a
real attack, Drake said. During the war he continued to
serve with the Army Corps of Engineers in the Pacific,
including Saipan and the Marines of the Marianeras Campaign or
the Marianas Campaign, I should say. When the war ended, Drake,

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who was from Winchester, returned to Kentucky, had a family,
worked with General Telephone of Kentucky, was an engineer until retirement.
His wife of sixty five Yearslina Wilson Drake, passed away
in December of twenty eleven, survived by his son Sam,
two grandsons, three great grandchildren. Drake was a member of

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the Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers National Society of
Professional Engineers, charter member and past president of the Bluegrass
Chapter of the Kentucky Society of Professional Engineers. He was
a member of the Veterans of Foreign Wars, former member
of the Society of American Military Engineers, a member of

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the Honorable Order of Kentucky Colonels. He was a lifetime
member of the University of Kentucky Alumni Association and a
life member of the Pearl Harbor's Survivor Association. So Vaughn P.
Drake and to his family, we thank that good man

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for his service. Passed away at the age of one
hundred and six, one hundred and six years old, oldest
known survivor of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. And
that closes a chapter in this country that will that

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will likely never never be seen again. So we thank
him for his service and wish him godspeed on his
journey one hundred and six years on this earth. And
God bless that good man. What else do we have
going on? What else do we have going on? Let
me see new documents. All new documents proved that Rushiagate

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was a hoax all along. But Letitia James is facing
some difficulties now. This story broke last night. The Attorney
General of New York, Latitia James, who managed to secure
the guilty verdict against Donald Trump in February of twenty

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four for allegedly inflating the value of the Trump organization.
Everyone remembers that, right we had this judge say that
mar Lago was worth only eighteen million dollars when it's
in fact worth closer to two hundred and fifty million dollars. Wow,
you know, Letitia James out there looking out for the

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small people, because according to her, that you know when
you know, when a big bad organization like the Trump
organization falsely puts out the value of their property that
they're using to secure a loan, well, that means there's
less for everybody else. Never Mind that the bank did
its own due diligence, never mind that there was no

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victim in this, never mind that anyone lost a dime
in this whole procedure, But no, she pursued those criminal charges. Anyway,
when the powerful break the law and take more than
their fair share, there are fewer resources available for working people,
small businesses, families. Everyday, Americans cannot lie to a bank

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about how much money they have in order to get
a mortgage to buy a home, and if they did,
the government should throw the book at them. That's what
Latitia James said. Will Now, there's a little trouble for
Latitia James because she has been referred for prosecution over
the exact same type of crimes that accused Trump. Of

(29:02):
the exact same type of crimes. Let's see where do we? Uh,
I got to get to a break here, We'll do that.
We'll get to a break, and then I'll lay out
what the what the crimes that miss James is facing
or will or has been referred to to the Justice Department.

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Absolutely amazing. How many times have we said it? When
you have liberals or Democrats accusing people of doing things,
it usually turns out they are doing the exact same
things themselves. And we'll get into some of these details.
And right after this on fifty five k r C
the talk station, fifty five k the talk station when

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You're some pump fifty five krc DE Talk station. Well
left off talking about the Tisha James, the New York
Attorney General who brought the flimsy at the Flimsy cases
against Donald Trump. And now it appears that she's had

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been referred to for prosecution on some of the exact
same charges that she went after Trump for. If the
allegations are accurate, and this is according to the Western Journal,
the woman who went after Trump engaged in some very
real property fraud of her own. According to a report
that came out Wednesday night, the US Federal Housing Finance

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Agency Director William Poulte referred James to Attorney General Pam
Bondi for irregularities in a series of loans that James
obtained on two properties in the course of exercising US
Federal Housing authority under the Federal Housing Enterprise, Financial Safety
and Soundness Act. The US Federal Housing has identified matters

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that are appropriate for referral to the Department of Justice.
Poulti wrote his letter to Bondi based on reports Leticia
James has in multiple instances falsified bank documents and property
records to acquire government back backed assistance and loans for
more favorable terms. This has potentially included one falsifying residence

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status for a Norfolk, Virginia based home in order to
secure a lower mortgage rate, and two misrepresenting property descriptions
to meet stringent requirements for government backed loans and government assistants.
In the case of the Virginia home. The more clear

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cut of the allegations, which is likely to represent a
serious impediment to james continued rise through the Democrat ranks.
The New York Attorney General reportedly listed it as her
primary residence to banks and twenty twenty three documents in
order to get a better deal on loans. Where have
we heard that before? Despite being a statewide public officeholder

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in the state of New York at the same time
and primarily residing in the state of New York. So
she lives, works, and resides in the state of New York,
but says that this home in Virginia is her primary residence.
Primary residence mortgages receive more favorable loan terms, including lower

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interest rates, than secondary residence mortgages. Lenders view secondary residence
mortgages as significantly riskier, as a borrower is more likely
to continue paying off a primary residence during any financial hardship.
Interest rates on secondary residence mortgages are typically between zero

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point two five and point five zero percent higher than
their primary residence counterparts. So here's Letitia James telling the bank, Hey,
look this home in Virginia. That's my primary home. Also,

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she could save a quarter to half a point on
an interest loan. At the time of the twenty twenty
three Norfolk, Virginia Property Purchase and mortgage, Miss James was
the sitting Attorney General of New York and required by
law to have her primary residence in the state of

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New York. Even though her mortgage applications list her intent
to have the Norfolk, Virginia property as her primary home.
It appears Miss James property and mortgage mortgage related misrepresentations
may have continued to her recent twenty twenty three Norfolk,
Virginia property purchase in order to secure a lower interest

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rate and more favorable loan terms. How about that? So
it looks like there's a lot of evidence out there
referred to prosecution. Sorry, Letitia James sucks to be you,
as Brian Thomas might say, But you know she she
talked about white collar crime, white collar financial crime, not victimless.

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When the powerful break the law and take more than
their fair share, there are fewer resources available for working people.
That applied to Donald Trump. Now it's time to see
if the same applies to the Attorney General of New York.
Letitia James five fifty five on fifty five KRC, The

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Talk Station fifty five KRC, the Talk Station six oh
five On this Wednesday morning, I'm Dan Carroll. Brian Thomas
taking the week off, so it's my pleasure to be
here for him. I get to do it one more
day tomorrow, So I'm looking forward to that and also

(35:05):
looking forward to speaking with our next guest, and our
first guest in the morning is Charlton Allen. Charlton Allen
is an attorney. He is the former chief executive officer
of the North Carolina Industrial Commission, the founder of the
Madison Center for Law and Liberty, and the host of
the Modern Federalist podcast. And he also is a regular

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contributor to American Thinker, which is a great website where
that I look at just about every single day. And
it is because of a piece that he wrote there
that I reached out to him and asked him to
be on the show this morning. And here he is,
and Charlton Allen, thank you so much for being here,
and good morning. It's great to have you on fifty
five KRC. How are you today.

Speaker 5 (35:48):
I'm doing well, Dan, thanks for having.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
Me well, Thank you for being here. This piece that
you wrote that really got my attention a few days ago.
The headline is we didn't start the trade war, We've
just finally joined it. And you make the case. First
of all, the first thing you talk about is how
the media really fails to deliver any context as it

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relates to tariffs. Do you believe that this is because
they're pursuing an agenda that they don't want to provide
real context. I think they have the ability to provide context,
but they simply choose not to provide context and really
wind up just parroting the talking points that come from

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the DNC and other organizations who are opposed to this administration.
I think this is a heavy.

Speaker 5 (36:42):
Part of it, but I don't necessarily believe that's all
of it.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Let me explain this, okay.

Speaker 5 (36:50):
I think we have reached a point in our nation,
and particularly in terms of the legacy media. They are
very much coastal on plays and they have for generations
ignored the plight of states like your state, Ohio, my state,
North Carolina, and all the states in between the two coasts.

(37:14):
And as a consequence, yeah, I have come to conclude unfortunately,
a lot of the legacy media sees there themselves as
having more in common with Europe, for example, than the
rest of America. And I think there is a deep
philosophical and cultural divide that you know, is a schism

(37:35):
between those media elites and the rest of us in
this country. And I think as a major factor as well.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Yeah, I think I think most Americans have have an
idea that that we have a very large trade and
balance when it comes to dealing with China. I think
a lot of Americans might have been surprised though, to
recognize the amount of tariffs that and then really how
unli level the playing field is when it when you

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talk about the rest of the world, when you when
you look at all the other tariffs that all these
countries impose on the United States, and the United States
for so long essentially had had little or no tariffs
on many of these other countries. And I think when
you when you look at a guy like Trump, it
is that sort of imbalance that that really bothers him

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more than anything else. That you know, we have all
this access for all these other countries into our markets,
but yet we don't have the same access to theirs.

Speaker 5 (38:35):
That's exactly the point. And you know, in terms of
approaching it, I think you have to one hand take China,
and China is a unique and over arching problem that's
separate and apart from the rest of the world. And
the reason why I say that is because China is,

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you know, by and large one of our largest trading partners,
and they manipulate the markets, They manipulate trade. They have
barriers upon barriers to trade. In China, they have things
such as Golden chairs, which give the Chinese Communist Party
control over entities in China into corporations that you know,

(39:22):
frankly did the fact that that is the case and
those companies are dealing in securities in the United States
is long overdue for the SEC to be involved.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
But China is.

Speaker 5 (39:35):
A problem in and of itself. Europe is another problem,
and you know, I would take it a step further,
not just Europe, but also Canada. We have significant trade imbalances.
Europe in particular, and Canada as well rely on the
United States for national security. There is no way in

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the world that the Canadian armed forces can protect the
one hundred and fifty one thousand miles of coastline in
Canada or the four million square miles of aerospace in Canada.
There's no way they rely on us to provide security.
Same with Europe, and yet there are barriers to our
penetration of both of those markets, in particular Europe, where

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if the United States company wants to sell a car
they're slacked with a ten percent tariffone on our cars,
and then europe christ foul when we demand reciprocity. For
decades since World War Two, we have subsidized European comfort
with American sacrifice. And that era is over.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Yeah, you wrote a piece that appeared in an American
Thinker yesterday talking about Canada's free ride is finally over.
I want to ask you a couple more questions about that.
But just getting back to China for a moment, I
guess the latest move was by China talking about how
they're going to put a pause or a hold on

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China shipping out these rare earth minerals. And I was
I was reading about this that the United States actually
is a major producer of rare earth minerals. It's just
that the refining process is shipped overseas, shipped over to
China where those minerals are refined, and then they are

(41:23):
sent back to the United States and to other parts
of the world as well. And I think I think
Trump has a pretty good handle on this. And so
when you look at or at least when I look
at what I perceive to be the bargaining position that
Trump wants to put this country into when it comes
to tariffs. It's not only to level the playing field,

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but to reinvigorate these manufacturing processes, and so we are
able to self sustain ourselves here in the United States
and no longer be reliant on places like China for pharmaceuticals,
for rare earth, for things like this that American consumers

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need on a daily basis.

Speaker 5 (42:10):
Exactly, the twentieth century was one by tanks and oil.
The twenty first century will be one by chips energy
and who controls the tech stack. China knows this, and
they have tried to corner the market not just on
rare earth production, but rare earth refinery refineries such as
what you discussed. And we need to cut through the

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barriers here in our own country so that we cannot
only mine rare earth minerals that we need in just
about every facet and modern electric and electronic computing and AI.
We need to cut those barriers down so that we
are not only competitive, but that we are surpassing China

(42:53):
in those key factors. Because if we do not have
control of pharmaceuticals, we do not control our own energy future.
We do not control our access to rare earth minerals.
We will not be an independent nation much longer. You know,
China is You know, this is something epic. Is one

(43:16):
of the greatest failures of American policy makers over the
past fifty years. Despite its deep market penetration in the
United States, China has remained a one party state, and
that party is the Chinese Communist Party. And one of
those great failures about our policy makers and politicians was

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they misread China's economic opening in the nineteen seventies as
a repudiation or rejection of Marxism.

Speaker 4 (43:44):
It wasn't.

Speaker 5 (43:45):
It was a rebranding. At its core, Marxism is about
wealth redistribution from the economically successful to the unsuccessful, from
the havels to the have not, and for the last
several generations, accelerating dramatically after china submission to the wt
O in the granting of Most Favored Nation status, we've

(44:05):
watched that redistribution play out in a global scale. What
China has executed is a wholesale transfer of wealth from
the United States to the People's Republic. It's been wrapped
into seductive packaging of cheap consumer goods, but the core
transaction is unmistakable. We sit them our industries or supply
chains and our leverage, and in return we've got plastic

(44:28):
trinkets and mounting death.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
Yeah. And and I think if China, if China sees
that the United States is serious about about taking up
this manufacturing process that we have that we have ceded
to them, then I think I think that'll be even
more leverage that'll get that will get the Chinese to

(44:51):
the bargaining table and uh and be something that will
work in the favor of the United States. Charleston Allen,
we get we have to get to a quick break,
so let me ask you to hold on right there.
We'll do a quick little traffic in weather and then
we'll continue on with Charlton Allen from the great state
of North Carolina. So we appreciate him being here on

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Fifty five KRC the Talk station six nineteen on this
Wednesday morning. Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas, continuing our conversation
with Attorney Charlton Allen, and mister Allen, let me ask
you this when it comes to when it comes to
the criticism that has been brought against President Trump and
the way he's going about I don't think that. I

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don't think that this whole, this whole trade war, if
you want to call it that, or the tariffs that
Trump has been using for leverage, is as haphazard as
the media would have you believe. But I think there's
I think there's some legitimate criticism and especially when people
look at their savings, when they look at their four

(46:06):
oh one k's, when they look at their retirement accounts,
their stock market investment portfolios, things like that, that that
there has been a lot of volatility there. There's been
you know, so at least some some temporary damage done
to these to these things, and I think people have
genuine concerns about that. When when you get asked or

(46:27):
people want to talk about that, what is your response
to them about the game, the pain that is associated
with the with the policies, and and what what Trump
is trying to accomplish here.

Speaker 5 (46:43):
I appreciate from several angles. First of all, we cannot
be dissuaded from what I believe is the right course
of action based upon short term results and pain. Uh,
there was always going to be no matter how the
President tried to implement UH tariffs, whether he did it

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in the manner he has done, or if he took
a more longer term approach and phased it in more gradually,
there was going to be uncertainty. And the market reacts
to uncertainty, and the market's job is to react. The
President's job is to act. And I think President Trump's

(47:27):
doctrine may rattle some of the hedge funge managers, but
it reassures the factory floors, and that's where the real
strength of this country's always been. And you know, I
will also say that a lot of the companies that
are traded on the public exchanges, the equities, they are
very much leveraged into trade with China. And I will

(47:52):
also point I've discussed this in an article last week. Uh,
you know, or Treasury Secretary has made a very strong
point of this, just how much of a schism there
is within the United States the people who actually.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Participate in Wall Street.

Speaker 5 (48:14):
I believe it is something along the lines that twelve
percent of Americans own eighty percent of stock. That is,
you know, that gives you an idea of just how
much you know there is a diconomy between those who
are participating in the market and those are not. The

(48:35):
long term play I think is going to be following
the approach the approach to president is going to follow.
China is going to require some significant sacrifice to decouple
from the Chinese Communist Party because it is more than
just a trade issue. They have infiltrated our economy in

(48:56):
a very parasitic manner. One of the largest employers in
North Carolina is smith phil Foods, which is owned by China.
They have purchased a lot of agribusiness. They are heavily
leveraged in the pharmaceutical industry, which is another big employer
in the state of North Carolina. So decoupling from China

(49:18):
is going to be a very long term process, but
it is going to be necessary for our sovereignty because
if China controls through Rare Earth and Other Technology or
National Security Center, if they control our pharmaceutical sector, if

(49:40):
they control consumer and business electronics, and then they're making
a strong play in AI. Where is our future, not
just in terms of our economy, but our national security.
It's very much in doubt when you have a geopolitical
adversary rolling all the key sectors of the economy and

(50:03):
they want to subdue the United States.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (50:07):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
And then and then getting back to Canada here as
we as we wrap this up, you talked, you talk
about Canada and the United States and Canada are are
the our big trading partners, but China is is intertwined
quite deeply into Canada as well. Is that is that
a hindrance moving forward with Canada? Does Does Canada have

(50:29):
to be concerned about, you know, any repercussions from China
as it seeks to uh, you know men fences with
the United States, Yes, they do.

Speaker 5 (50:41):
They have to be very significant serns concerns of my view,
not just with China but also with Russia and incursions
within Canada's shipping lanes and access to the Arctic Ocean
and the Northern Pacific and the Northern Atlantic oceans. Uh,
They're going to have very significant concerns in Canada really

(51:04):
needs to step up to the plate and you know,
get involved in the end of Pacific in a way
that they have not been, get invested in their national security,
which they have not been. They are won the worst
performing nations in NATO and have been for generations, and
they have not taken their obligations under NATO seriously. They

(51:27):
are stuck at about one point three percent of their
GDP contributing to their own national security when NATO has
set a goal, and it's not an unreasonable goal two percent.
But it's not just Canada that we have to watch.
In terms of China, Mexico is a very big deal
as well. Mexico has been used as a basically a

(51:49):
trojan horse for China to get their goods assembled in
Mexico and then enter the United States tara free, and
that has calls a spike in the Mexican trade surplus
with the United States. Last year between twenty four it
sored to nearly one hundred and seventy two billion dollars.

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A big reason for that was Chinese goods assembled to
Mexico and then shipped to the United States.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Well, Charleston Allen, I'll tell you what. You make some
great points in the commentaries that I find on American Thinker.
And you know, when I look at this, I look
at a situation that you know, so many of these
situations have gone unaddressed for so long in any sort
of meaningful way that when it does come time to
deal with it, which I think we're just you know,

(52:40):
dipping our toe into the water here on this, that
there's going to be some you know, ripping that band
aid office doesn't come without any consequences. So I think
it's something that needs to be done, and you know,
long term, I think it's going to be wind up
being a good thing for the United States. But Charleston Allen,
we have to run. I want to thank you for
the time today and the Madison Center for Law and

(53:02):
Liberty and the Modern Federalist podcast. Where can people find
that podcast, The Modern Federalist?

Speaker 5 (53:08):
You could find it on all the major podcast providers,
Apple Podcasts for example, your Podbeans, Spotify.

Speaker 4 (53:15):
So forth.

Speaker 7 (53:16):
So on.

Speaker 5 (53:16):
We're out there and season two's about the launch.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
All right, well, Charlton Allen, great having you on the
show today. I look forward to future conversations and with
your permission, we'll be calling on you again before too long.
That'd be great.

Speaker 4 (53:30):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
All right, there you go, Charlton Allen and look up
his writings on American Thinker. You will be glad that
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Fifty five KRC the talk station six thirty two. We
roll on till nine this morning. I want to thank
Charlton for being here. First time I've had a chance
to talk to him and enjoyed that conversation. So yeah,
it's it's going to be tough. There's a lot going
on as it relates to tariffs, but it's something that
needs to be done and I think a long term

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this country is going to benefit mightily from what happens.
And look, I don't know how all this is going
to play out, but I think we've got the upper
hand in a lot of these situations. And so are
we doing You got to go on a little bit
of faith here, I think so. So if you want
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fifty five hundred the number to call if you want
to get on board. DOGE has been busy. Haven't seen
really seen a lot from DOGE in the last couple
of days, but they they put some stuff out and
they talk about virtually every member, every staff member of
the Pentagon's Defense Digital Service is resigning as Doge cleans stage,

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is replacing the team far left Silicon Valley tech ees
dubbed the SWAT Team of Nerds and heading their duties
over to the Chief Digital and Artificial Intelligence Office under
pressure from Elon Musk. The Elon Musk led Department of
Government Efficiency nearly all staff at the Defense Digital Service,

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the Pentagon's fast tracked tech development arm, are resigning in
the coming month. According to the director of three current
members of the office granted anonymity to discuss their job status.
The resignations will effectively shut down the decade old program

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at the end of April. The Defense Digital Service was
created in twenty fifteen to help the Pentagon adopt fast
tech fixes during national security crises and push Silicon Valley
style innovations inside the Pentagon. It built rapid response tools
for the military during the Afghanistan withdrawal? How well did

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that work out? Databases to transfer Ukrainian military and humanitarian
aid drone detection technologies are more Without the program, some
key efforts to streamline the DODS tech talent pipeline and
counter adversarial drones will be sunseted. One soon to be

(57:27):
former employee said, or once dubbed the Pentagon Swat Team
of nerds. D DS was one of the department's earliest
efforts to inject Silicon Valley ethos into its massive bureaucracy.
And I don't know if Silicon Valley ethos is the
thing that we really want winding its way through the

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Department of Defense. Speaking of the Department of Defense, an
advisor for Secretary Pete Hegseth has been put on lead
if Dan Caldwell escorted from the Pentagon for an unauthorized disclosure.
According to Ruters, details of the unauthorized disclosure are unclear.

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According to Ruters, this comes after our March twenty first
memo ordering a Pentagon investigation into leaks, ordered by Pete Hegsath,
chief of Staff. So this guy was a senior advisor
to the Defense Secretary and it turned out that you know,
there some some of the leaking may involve have involved him.

(58:35):
So they kicked him out. Didn't wait around, found out
this guy was maybe not to be trusted. Who knows.
Dan Caldwell was included in the Mike Wallas Hoody chat
and will be interesting to see how this removal is
tied to that campaign. So get him out of there,

(58:58):
and don't wait around. You find out someone's not following
the rules. Pete he Seth says, kick him out, and
I don't have any problem with that at all. Six
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fifty five KRC and talking about Doge and what they've
been up to. Got a bunch of far left Silicon
Valley techies out of the Pentagon. I love this. The
State Department has acted over two hundred million and foreign

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grants funded by taxpayer dollars. The Secretary of State Marco
Rubio slashed about two hundred and fourteen million from one
hundred and thirty nine grants, which focused on foreign assistant programs,
including a media sustainability program for Moldova. A media sustainability

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program for Moldova. It costs fourteen and a half million
dollars fourteen point six million, media sustainability for Moldova. What
is that? Why is the United States concerned about media

(01:00:28):
sustainability in Moldova? Is that just someone there collecting money,
fourteen million and a half dollars worth of American money,
doing god knows what with it. That's what it sounds
like to me. Let's see, we've got a five point
two million dollar Diversity in Media grant for the United Kingdom.

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The State Department was apparently concerned about media issues, but yeah,
they had to have. I guess the UK was suffering
from a lack of diversity in media, and so the
State Department saw fit to spend five point two million
dollars on it. But Marco Rubio says, no, I don't
think so. No more. Let's see five hundred thousand dollars

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to Armenia for environmental resilience, just one of one grant
among many others. According to the Washington Free Beacon, can
anyone can anyone tell me what environmental resilience mean? The

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cuts were made with the aid of the Department of
Government Efficiency, so thank god to that. American taxpayers should
not be funding misguided programs like building migrant domestic worker
led movement in Lebanon or get the trolls out in
the United Kingdom. Marco Rubio said, we are cleaning up

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the mess of the previous administration and rebuilding an agency
that is focused on putting America first. Shouldn't that what
the State the State Department, Shouldn't that be what their
major concern is, America first. You know, they're there to
implement the foreign policy of the President of the United States,

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and Donald Trump wants to put America first. So that's
what the State Department should be about, not sending money
to Moldova for god knows what reason, or five hundred
thousand dollars to Armenia for environmental resilience Elsewhere in the
DOGE world. They've are continuing with their program to audit

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and get rid of unused and unneeded credit cards in
the federal government. They thirty different agencies. After seven weeks,
about four hundred seventy thousand cards have been deactivated, four
hundred seventy thousand credit cards. Sean McMahon, does that sound

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like a lot, four hundred and seventy thousand credit cards deactivated? Well,
four hundred seventy thousand cards is really just a drop
in the bucket those rights. As a reminder, at the
start of the audit there were four point six million
active cards, credit cards and accounts, so they say there

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is still more work to do. Yes, four hundred seventy
thousand credit cards sounds like a lot. You've got thirty
agencies there. I don't know you, but you divide thirty
into four hundred and seventy what do you get? But
it turns out there's more than four and a half million.
When they started this active credit cards and they are

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shutting them down. The story a few weeks ago when
they were talking about cutting some of these credit cards
and a federal judge said you can't do that. So
they came back and they changed the amount on the
credit card that they were only good for a dollar.

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So that was a clever way to get around that
judges ruling. And we've got more from Doache, so we'll
talk about that on the other side of this fifty
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Listen Sex fifty on this Wednesday morning, fifty five krs.
Continuing with a little bit of the Doge news that
has been coming out over the last day or so.
The Treasury Secretary of Scott has sent. I think this
guy's just terrific. Yeah, the interviews he's been doing as

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approach to fiscal policy, as approached to the markets and
everything else, I think has really been very sensible, especially
when you compare what he talks about the Janet yelling
and Scott Pissent writes this, the IRS has removed non
technical people from technical leadership roles in engineering and replaced

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them with experienced engineers. Going forward, skilled engineers will drive
technical decisions. The IRS has its fair share of software talent.
These men and women will have long served the IRS.
They need to be empowered to make decisions. Then he
talks about the IRS has successfully saved two billion dollars

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without any operational disruptions by eliminating wasteful contracts such as
auto renewed licenses unused for years. So all these spending
cuts far from the doom and gloom that those on
the other side, not Republicans but Democrats. What have you believed?

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And really the wasteful spending is really just complete junk,
just junk, get.

Speaker 4 (01:06:08):
Rid of it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
It's it's in the millions and in some cases the
billions of dollars. And they want to act like these
agencies are being cut to the bone. I mean it
is really just barely scratching the surface on a lot
of these different agencies and issues. William, William, what's what's
going on this morning? How you doing all right?

Speaker 10 (01:06:29):
My question is this, yes, sir, is about the cuts.
How did they get these fundings? How did they get started?

Speaker 5 (01:06:38):
Who started it?

Speaker 10 (01:06:39):
Who is responsible for putting this program together?

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
Well, I think what we've seen is that there are
all these are you familiar with the term NNGO non
governmental organizations. You get that, yeah, you get you get
all these lawmakers that that have their friends or their
family members or you know, former staffers. They go out
and they form these different NGOs and they say, well,

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you know, we we're really concerned about the environment. And
then they come up with a program. And in a
lot of cases, these programs are in foreign countries, and
you know, they talk about, well, you know, there's really
inequity when it comes to women working in Malaysia or
Indonesia or some foreign country like this. So they go there,

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they set up essentially a post office box, and then
they've got a friend in Congress who's able to you know,
carve out a ten million dollar grant, a twenty million
dollar grant, or in the case of Stacy Abrams, two
billion dollars so she can put you know, you know,
new appliances in in in homes across the country using

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two billion federal taxpayer dollars. So it's it's it's just
one huge grift and it has spread so far and wide,
and it went on unchecked for so many years, and
that's why, you know, it's it's so much low hanging
fruit that they found. You know, when it comes to

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the overall size of the budget, it's you know, I
think less than one percent or about one percent. But
when it comes to putting money in an individual's pocket,
you know, five hundred grand or one point two million
doesn't make a lot of difference to the federal budget.
But William, if someone put that kind of money in
your pocket, would that make a difference to you?

Speaker 5 (01:08:29):
Absolutely?

Speaker 11 (01:08:30):
That's what That's what's bothering me is we're really it's
been a problem that it just goes back and shows
us how these people are getting elected, they get richer,
and you know, you're making state safety Abrams. From what
I've heard, that money is actually circled back to her.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
Well, it circles back to her. And do you think
Stacy Abram Abrams has a lot of ends in Congress?

Speaker 4 (01:09:01):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
Yeah, And do you think some of that winds up
circling back to them as well? Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:09:07):
Now the question now becomes, how do we fix it
other than looking at every one we vote for objectively
and say what did you approve? And I think we
would wind up with a whole new Congress, whole new Senate, every.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
Space Well, the first part of fixing it is exposing it,
and then you have to cut it off. And then
eventually there needs to be prosecutions if these people wound
up broken the law, and that's the name of that too.
And as far as I'm concerned, it's time to start
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no place I'd rather be in the morning. Five three

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hundred the number to call, just to wrap up. While
I was talking about with the Department of Government Efficiency
and the Secretary of Rubio posted this some of the
wasteful grants that they got rid of one point four
million for the preventing Internet fragmentation in Brazil. Preventing Internet

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fragmentation in Brazil one point four million dollars to that.
And like I was talking to the to the caller
I had right before the break, you know, there's probably
some NNGO, some nonprofit organization that you know, has looked
at the Internet in Brazil and said, wow, for you know,

(01:11:24):
for just a little bit of money, we can really
help out these people get on the Internet in Brazil.
Really is the Internet the answer to anyone's problem? Obviously
it has its useful purposes. But if people in Brazil
want the Internet, shouldn't that be on them? Why should

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it be up to the United States to spend one
point four million dollars to prevent Internet fragmation fragmentation? I
don't even know what that means. Sean McMahon. You're you're
younger guy than me. You you're up on all the
Internet stuff. What does internet fragmentation mean? I could not

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tell you. He doesn't know. And it's saying nobody knows,
nobody knows what any of this stuffy I mean, if
you're really being honest about it, nobody knows what most
of this stuff even means. But we but we spend
money on it anyway, And again it is absolute chump change.

(01:12:27):
When you look at the size of the federal budget,
but when that money lands in the pocket of an
individual who's on the grift, it's life changing, absolutely life changing.
And we're bringing all this stuff is well, I would
I'm probably premature to say that we're going to bring

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it all to a stop, but at least some of it.
We're bringing it to a stop because I have no
doubt there's a lot more out there that we haven't
even come close to finding yet. A million dollars for
building trust and keeping hope alive in Sri Lanka? What
the heck does that mean? Building trust and keeping hope
alive in Sri Lanka? Keeping hope alive? Is that an

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Obama thing? Obviously there's some friend of Obama that's in
Sri Lanka. I know they've had their issues there with
civil war and the like. But building trust and keeping
hope alive in Sri Lanka? Really a million dollars for that?

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The State Department, they said, no, how about two million
dollars for advancing democratic culture in America or I I'm sorry,
not America but Armenia. If our media wants a democratic culture,
then that's up to them to advance and promote that
not the United States. And then a five point two

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million to Media Diversity for programs like get the Trolls Out,
an anti disinformation program in the United Kingdom. It may
serve you a useful purpose. I don't know, but you know,
five million from the federal government that needs to come
to an end. Let's go to Tim and Batesville and
Tim seven hundred, not seven hundred, but fifty five KRC.

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How are you.

Speaker 7 (01:14:20):
I'm doing good, Dan, Thanks for taking my call. Yes, air, Hey,
I wanted to talk about the credit cards that the
government uses. It's been twenty years since I was in
the Navy and I had my credit cards I had won.
It was an American Express card that we used for travel.

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And you know, if somebody was going to travel, you've
got a credit card and you had that card until
you got rid of it. Now, you couldn't use it
for like regular purchases, you know, but in travel, you know,
buying your plane ticket, you're you know, authorized travel could
use it. And if you did, if you did use

(01:15:05):
the credit card for your own personal uses, it was
upon you to pay it off. If you didn't sure,
you know, then the command got involved. The other credit
card I had was also in the the process of
my job. It was for purchasing, and you know, at
a command they cut out a lot of the contracting

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for things so that the commands themselves could purchase items,
you know, to complete the command's mission. You know, you
had various resources to go to to purchase items, and
you know, you could go on the open market if
it was cheaper. And a case in point, to buy

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a ceiling fan from the Navy stock system it was
about two and twenty five dollars just regular ceiling fans.
To go to dan Fan City, it was twenty five
dollars to buy it. So which way do you think
that I would have went to purchase the ceiling fan.

(01:16:14):
I would have went thee Dan Fan City and I
could use that credit card to purchase it once I
was authorized to use it. Well, you know why there's
a lot of credit cards.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
Yeah, when when I went when I was in the military,
there was I was in the Air Force. It probably
before you were in the Navy, but I remember at
that time there was a lot of discussion about that
about simply uh, you know, working outside the military procurement system,
even for the most simplest of things. I think for
for a long time, there was a there was some

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sort of ingrained ideology that if if you were going
to make a purchase or a military unit was going
to make a purchase for I mean, you know, just
about anything under the sun, that it had to go
through a very strict and regimented process. And so at
that time, I know they were trying to break out
of that. But when you look at the overall size

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of the and I think that you know, there are
there are probably some perfectly acceptable times and and and
perfectly good reasons for individuals within the federal government to
have access to credit cards. But when I look at
the DOGE talking about four and a half million active
credit card accounts within the federal government, that uh and

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and who knows what kind of abuses because look, you know,
Tim that if people have access to these credit cards,
and we and if we went and looked, we could
find story after story after story of someone who's using
a government credit card to make it rain at the
strip club. You know, who's buying a sports car. You know,

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they're paying for their daughter's prom, paying for a wedding,
stuff like that. You know, that kind of stuff has happened.
And so when you've got four and a half million
credit cards out there, that to me sounds like a
really big number and that needs to uh at least
at the very least be checked and reined in at
some point.

Speaker 7 (01:18:10):
Right, I get that. And you know, we did have that.
We had a group of people that outfitted a bar
that they were running with the uh the simple SIED
purchase card and they got caught, you know. But uh,
you know, and then if like I said, with the
travel card, that was it was we've gotten through the government,

(01:18:32):
but you were responsible, you know, as an individual to
pay for your card so you could use it. It's
just uh uh it didn't go towards your credit or
anything like that. It was just kind of like, uh,
you know, government backed, but the government didn't pay for it.
You paid for it. And if you didn't pay it,

(01:18:53):
then you paid it anyway because they would take the
money from you. Well, uh, that's that's how travel card works.

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
Well, Tim, I appreciate the insight on that, and I
thank you for your service in the Navy, sir, thank
you for your hows how's everything in Batesville. I used
to I used to live in Batesville.

Speaker 7 (01:19:15):
I just go up there to pick up stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
Yeah, okay, yeah, all right, Tim, I appreciate the call
this morning. All right, all right, there you go, Tim.
He used to use the government credit card. And again,
I mean, all this stuff is there, you know, is there?
There's some things that you know, maybe not you know,
are not the strictest under the you know, the strictest

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terms that you know, falling or putting on the periphery
of the federal government. That it makes sense the fund,
I think there is. But when you just look at
the I mean, ever since Dode started putting all this
stuff out, when you look at just the nonsense we
are paying for. Sean mcman, do we have that cup

(01:20:02):
from yesterday? This is Marjorie Tailor Green. Marjorie Tailer Green's
been holding a lot of different hearings on wasteful spending
and the dough and here's one item that she came
up with the other day. And Sean, do we have
that cup from yesterday? Let's go ahead and roll that
Marjorie Tailor Green and listen to what she's talking about here.

Speaker 12 (01:20:22):
In twenty twenty one, the CDC spent almost a quarter
million dollars on solar powered picnic tables. The CDC at
the time was telling people to socially distance with masks
and basically forcing a vaccine that many Americans didn't want.
So what use would its employees have for this new
picnic table that has quite the price?

Speaker 11 (01:20:46):
Yeah, it's quite expensive, and you know, the social distancing
guideline suggested they shouldn't be seated at that table while
they were spending to.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
Look at them. Look at those seats. Look at those seats.

Speaker 12 (01:20:58):
That's not social distancing.

Speaker 2 (01:20:59):
They're quite close.

Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
There's a close proximity of the c's to the other.

Speaker 5 (01:21:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:21:03):
Real quick, I've just got a short amount of time yet,
I'd like to ask God, just basically, just for the
general audience, is two hundred and thirty eight thousand spent
on solar powered picnic tables at the CDC appropriate? I
think the American people think, so that's disgusting. Is seven
hundred thousand spent by the SEC for their New York
regional office conference room appropriate of taxpayer dollars? I don't

(01:21:27):
think so. What about six point five million spent on
high end furniture to redecorate the EPE office? No, and
then two hundred and eighty four thousand and Herman Miller
furniture for femas headquarters, conference center and appropriate use of
taxpayer dollars, I would argue not. I'm definitely over time.

(01:21:48):
So thank you, gentlemen, Herman Miller furniture.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
I have no idea what that is. I guess that's
some high end really, I would imagine. But can you
do with something that maybe is not high end and
not as fancy smancy? I would think so. And then uh, sean,
what was the price tag on that two hundred and
thirty seven thousand, thirty eight thousand for a solar powered

(01:22:12):
picnic table? I can build a picnic table, and I
would do it. I would gladly do it nonsolar powered
for about half the price. I'll be glad. I'll be
glad to crank out two or three or four of
those a week. That'd be for that money, that'd be fantastic.
Seven seventeen late for a break on fifty five KRC

(01:22:34):
the talk station.

Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
Fifty five KRC hikes.

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
Brian Thomas here for four in exchange fifty five KRC
the Talk Station. Joe Biden came out of wherever he's

(01:22:58):
been hiding lately, and made some his first public remarks
since leaving office. This is how CBS News reported it.
During his speech at the Advocates, Counselors and Representatives for
the Disabled conference in Chicago. Biden has sailed President Trump's
ad administration, but did not name mister Trump directly. He
also didn't address his departure from last year's presidential race.

(01:23:23):
Former president called social Security a sacred promised how died
his administration's efforts to cut Social Security fraud. Really, I
don't remember talking about that. I don't remember the Biden
administration going after any fraud at all. He mock claims
by the Trump administration that scores of implausibly old people

(01:23:44):
are collecting payments. It's not what the it's not what
not what they said when Elon Musk came out with
that about Social Security, they talked about how they had
all these people were over one hundred years old, some older.
I think there was one person who was older than

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the country itself, but tens of thousands of people who
were between the ages of one hundred and thirty and
one hundred and fifty who were still active on the
database at Social Security Now, he never said that these
people were receiving checks. He said that they were still

(01:24:25):
active as far as Social Security was concerned. That these
people say, as far as Social Security was concerned, these
people were still alive and capable of getting checks. So
they went back in and they looked at it, and
they found out that some of these checks are still
not to all of them, but to some of them.

(01:24:49):
And Biden says, by the way, those three hundred y
old folks getting Social Security, I want to meet them.
Hell man, the hell of a thing. Man, I'm looking
for longevity. But I've got a couple of audios sound
bites from the the Biden speech last night. And let's
start with uh Sean, let's start with cut number one

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and the uh and and you're gonna hear you'll hear
some music here, and then you'll hear very faintly Biden
in the background because he started talking before the music stopped,
so he got off to a rough start. This is
what that sounded like. Cut one.

Speaker 5 (01:25:39):
We deserve help and pay for him.

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
They had. They had to cut the music off abruptly.
There couldn't just fade it down because Joe Biden just
got out there and started talking almost as if he's
never done this before. You know, you would think a
guy who's been around that long would have some sense
of when to start talking. You go out there, you

(01:26:06):
acknowledge the crowd, you know, you say thank you, You
look around to see people, you know whatever, point to people.
So the politicians always do that. They get up on
stage and they point to people like I know you. So, yeah,

(01:26:26):
I got off to a little bit of a rough start.
I got a couple of more soundbites. I'll get to
here in just a minute, but we'll do a little
take a little break here quickly, and then we'll get
into that. On fifty five KRC, the talk station.

Speaker 1 (01:26:40):
Fifty five KRC.

Speaker 2 (01:26:41):
How many realtors do you know that? Fifty five KRC,
the talk station, continuing on with some of the soundbites
from Joe Biden's much anticipated speech, first speech since leaving

(01:27:02):
the Oval Office. Much anticipated. I don't know, Sean, did
you see any of that? Yeah? He, I mean I
saw some of the video of that man. I mean,
he just looked like he was I mean, I don't
know what they what they drugged him up with, but

(01:27:25):
you know he had that you know, the wide eyed.
Look his hair looked you know, someone else is doing
his hair now. His hair looked a little bit different
than it did before. But Joe was walking down memory
Lane for some reason and decided to tell a just

(01:27:46):
a heartwarming tale of the first time he saw black people.
And that's your cut number two.

Speaker 13 (01:27:52):
And I had never seen I'd never seen hardly any
black people scranting at the time when I and I
was only going on fourth and I remember seeing kids
going by at the time, called colored kids on a bus.

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
Going by fourth grade. I haven't we heard time and
time and time again how Joe Biden was brought up
in the Black church or was that the Catholic Church
or the Synagogue? Didn't he tell the heartwarming stories about
how he used to go to Sunday Mass, and then

(01:28:27):
he'd run over to temple and commune with all his
Jewish friends, and then on it was on to the
Baptist Church and hanging out with all the different communities
around Scranton. There haven't we heard multiple tales of Joe Biden,
you know, moving freely between all these great ethnic communities.

(01:28:53):
And then he talks about being in the fourth grade.
How old are you when you were in the fourth grade, ten, eleven, twelve,
not exactly sure, maybe ten, I don't know. Eight. I
think you're older than eight, maybe nine, somewhere around there.

(01:29:13):
But he always tells the story about how he was
a kid and that was his upbringing, how he's brought
up in the Hispanic community and really raised by the
black folks. Tells all those stories about that, and even
after all this time, still feels the need. He must
have seen some black people in the audience, and he

(01:29:37):
still feels the need to try and convince them that
he is one of them. I am one of you.
Saw black people on a bus when I was in
the fourth grade. First time. Terrific tale. And then he
went on to talk about social security or something here.
Not exactly sure what you tell me? Cut number three there, Sean.

Speaker 13 (01:30:00):
The quote is move fast, break things. They're certainly breaking things.
They're shooting first and even later as a result. The
result is a lot of needless pain and sleepless nights.
My friend, Governor O'Malley knows what they're really up to,

(01:30:20):
he says, and I love his quote. Do you want
to wreck it so they can rob it? Do you want
to wreck it so they could rob it. Why do
they want to rob it in order to deliver huge
tax cuts to billionaires in big corporations and keep it going?

Speaker 2 (01:30:38):
Yeah, anyone know what he's talking about there? And first
I thought he was talking about social security. Then he
you know, he might have been talking about Medicare or medicaid,
you know, whether based something that the government spends big
money on. Might have been talking about tax cuts. I mean,
who knows. They want to wreck it so they can

(01:30:59):
run of it. Now you've got Trump, who was a
billionaire on in his own right. You've got Musk, who
is the richest guy on the planet. He you know,
Joe Biden can't even escape the the day to day

(01:31:26):
fully wang that that is put out by the Democrat
Party when it comes to describing this administration and the
you know, the one narrative that never ever ever changes
is they want tax cuts. They want you know, they
they want to give tax cuts to their rich friends

(01:31:49):
and have the you know, the the regular work in
schleps pay for it. That never changes. And you heard
the applause there aring that extremely weak applause line, Did
it sound like that was a packed house? Did it
sound like, you know, he he filled that room with

(01:32:11):
enthusiastic supporters. I don't think so. But you know who
is drawing big, fairly big crowds is Okasio Cortez and
Bernie Sanders. And I've got a sound bite from Bernie
Sanders coming up. We'll roll that after this on fifty
five KRCV talk station fifty five KRC cyber returned fifty

(01:32:34):
five KRC the talk station seven forty. You know, we
were talking a little while ago about Paul rolled some
of the sound bites from that really compelling speech given
by Joe Biden at whatever event he was at yesterday.
I believe it was in Chicago. But you know who
has been drawing noticeable crowds. And look, I really I

(01:32:57):
am not I am not interested at this point of
trying to handicap the race for twenty twenty eight, the
presidential race, whether it's jade E Vance or a Vague
or Marco Rubio or Ron DeSantis, I am not interested

(01:33:17):
in that. I still think, at least to my way
of thinking, it's way too early for that. But Bernie Sanders,
I thinks this is the great time to strike. Bernie
Sanders has been touring the country on his no OLIGACKI
now we're gone going to be a country of oligox oligocic.

(01:33:41):
I saw a video of him the other day and
it goes back to I think it starts about twenty twelve,
and then it goes twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen,
twenty fifteen, all the way up to twenty twenty five,
and he is talking about Oligarch's oligarch. So he's been
he's been. Bernie Sanders got to give him credit. He

(01:34:02):
was ahead of the curve when it comes to warning
about the oligarchs taking over the United States, and so
all the way from the earliest one of those clips
it's him talking about oligarchs, and then it goes all
the way up to twenty twenty five and he says,
I think the oligarchy is here. So he's been warning.
Bernie sand I'll give him credit for that. He's been

(01:34:23):
warning about the oeb oligarchy for a long long time,
and he was out there talking about it again at Coachella.
I didn't even know what Coachella was, Sean, do you
know what Coachella is? Yeah, I've had friends who go
to that contge. Yeah, it's an annual arts and music
festival held in Indio, California. I've been to Indio, California,
and I guess it's, you know, kind of a I

(01:34:46):
don't know if it's a woodstock like thing, but you know,
you get to one a bunch of hippies and drug
users out there, and they they have some singing and
festival activities and things like that, and they also have
Bernie Sanders. And Bernie is out there making a speech
in Coachella. I would I would dare say Bernie Sanders
had more people listening to him speak than Joe Biden did.

(01:35:08):
And at the same time he's doing all this, he's
paling around with Ocasio Cortes. I saw a headline today
that Ocasio Cortes has already raised more than nine million
dollars and not really for a presidential run, but for
a run to possibly challenge Chuck Schumer. So that'll be interesting.
But again, I am not getting into handicapping the presidential race.

(01:35:32):
But here's what Bernie Sanders had to say at Coachella
the other day. Cut four Oh, we.

Speaker 3 (01:35:37):
Need you to send up to fight for justice, to
fight for economic justice, social justice, and racial justice. Now
we got a president of the United States who I

(01:36:04):
agree he thinks that climate change is a hoax.

Speaker 7 (01:36:12):
It is.

Speaker 3 (01:36:13):
He is dangerously wrong. And you and I, you and
I are gonna have to stand up to the fossil
fuel industry and tell them to stop destroying disciplinet.

Speaker 2 (01:36:28):
Stop right there, stop right there. A second. Bernie Sanders
would not be able to make that speech were it
not for the fossil fuel industry. Look, climate change is
not a hoax. The idea of man made and man
driven and man controlled climate change is. And these people

(01:36:51):
are out there, I guess they're you know, they're probably
smoking the doobies, passing the ball around. Bernie Sanders.

Speaker 5 (01:36:58):
Woo.

Speaker 2 (01:37:00):
No, but that event in Coachella could not happen were
it not for fossil fuels. And Bernie Sanders is flying
first class all over the country. I think he's traveling commercial.
But you know those airplanes don't run on solar panels.
Go ahead, roll the bike all over this country. Not

(01:37:22):
in California, not in Vermont.

Speaker 3 (01:37:24):
Where I'm from, but in Florida, where Maxwell is from.
Many of the states politicians are trying to take away
a woman's right to control our own body. We need
you to stand up and fight.

Speaker 2 (01:37:42):
For women's rights.

Speaker 3 (01:37:46):
We have an economy today that is working very well
for the billionaire class, but not for working families.

Speaker 2 (01:37:59):
All right, stop right there. You know, we talked yesterday,
or at least I did, about how Trump has not
been in office for three months yet and already the
economy is he's giving Trump a credit for the economy
for everything that's going on with the economy. He wants
to give Trump credit for all that that it's working

(01:38:21):
for billionaires. And Henie Bernie Sanders is able to divine
that after Donald Trump has not been in office for
ninety days and Bernie Sanders is out there passing judgment
on what the economy is already doing under Trump. This
guy is absolutely amazing. And listen to these fools just

(01:38:43):
eating this stuff up. Do we have a little bit
of that sound bite? Left?

Speaker 4 (01:38:47):
Roll it?

Speaker 3 (01:38:48):
We need you to help us to create an economy
that works well for everybody, not just the one percent.

Speaker 2 (01:38:58):
Well, boy, I mean they can't even come up with
a new line. Hey, all this stuff this is this
is all right out of the Democrat liberal leftist playbook
that Kamala Harris tried to sell to the American people,
and the American people aren't buying it. I mean, Bernie Sanders,

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come on, at least come up with something new. Is
that asking too much? Apparently it is. But then again,
I won't be out there at Coachella seven forty seven
on fifty five KRC DE.

Speaker 1 (01:39:34):
Talk station fifty five KRC.

Speaker 2 (01:39:36):
These times of massive inflation have people fifty five KRC
DE talk station Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas. Another reason
I would never go to Coachella is tickets for that
thing cost six hundred and seventy nine from six hundred
seventy nine dollars to seven hundred and seventy nine dollars.

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Sean McMahon, does that sound like a bargain to you?
Not to me? No VIP package twelve hundred to fourteen
hundred bucks, at least not for modern artists. No, I'm
not paying. I'm not paying between seven and eight hundred
bucks for a ticket, especially if Bernie Sanders is going
to show up. Absolutely not. But Lady Gaga was there too,

(01:40:24):
so I guess that was something. Now I'm not I
am not paying, and I would not pay. I don't
think i'd pay eighty dollars to see Lady Gaga. I
don't think so. I think she's a talented singer, but
not my cup of tea. What else? What else means
so many things? I've got let me see, I got
don't have time. I think I got time for one
more SoundBite. Here. A lot's been made in the media

(01:40:45):
lately about this guy that you know got you know,
the Maryland Father, the Maryland Man. The guy's he's a
he's a gangbanger, he's the MS thirteen transferred to the
prison down there in El Salvador. L Salvador's president was
at the White House the other day, and the media

(01:41:06):
is making a big deal about this. No, there have
been two separate judges that have found this guy is
in the country, not only in the country illegally, but
also an MS thirteen gang member. And Caroline Levitt was
dealing with that because the media still wants to push
this narrative that the Trump administration is unlawfully sending people

(01:41:28):
like this out of the country, and Caroline Levitt wasn't
having it at the White House, so she spelled it
out for all the media morons. Let's hear cut number.

Speaker 6 (01:41:36):
Five Democrat and media outrage over the deportation of Abrigo
Garcia in MS thirteen l Salvadorian, a legal alien criminal
who was hiding in Maryland, has been nothing short of despicable.
Based on the sensationalism of many of the people in
this room, you would think we deported a candidate for
Father of the Year. That's because unfortunately many in this

(01:41:58):
country care more about this quote unquote Maryland father, a
legal alien MS thirteen gang member, then a Maryland mother,
and an American citizen who was brutally murdered at the
hands of a different illegal alien. Of course, I am
referring to Rachel Morin And if you didn't see, yesterday,
a Maryland jury found illegal alien victor Antonio Martinez Hernandez

(01:42:21):
guilty of murdering Rachel Moren in August.

Speaker 14 (01:42:24):
Of twenty twenty three.

Speaker 6 (01:42:25):
She was a thirty seven year old mother of five
who was jogging in an otherwise safe community northeast of
Baltimore when this monster ambushed, strangled, and beat her to
death before stuffing her brutalized body in a tunnel drain.
The more Infan family finally got justice yesterday, but they
will never get Rachel back our hearts go out to
Rachel's family, her five children and her mother, Patty, who

(01:42:48):
has suffered the unimaginable loss of her daughter.

Speaker 2 (01:42:52):
So there's Caroline Levitt out laying it out, and really,
I think, as plainly and as powerfully as you really can,
she's just terrific. And that makes the case right there.
You know, these legacy media people, these mainstream media people,
they never talk about the victims of these crimes, those

(01:43:15):
who get murdered, those who get raped, those who get aimed,
those who get ruined for life, those who those children
two hundred and fifty thousand to three hundred thousand missing,
sex trafficked, human trafficked, all the all the rest. They
never want to talk about the human toll of all this.
They just want to cry crocodile tears over some dude

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who's who's a gangbanger, but he's got he's got an
expensive lawyer saying how he shouldn't be in that prison.
In El Salvador seven fifty five Dan Carrol for Brian Thomas,
fifty five kr SE the talk station, all right, fifty
five KRC the talk station eight or nine. We finally

(01:44:00):
have our act together and Daniel Turner is joining us
now from Power the Future and Daniel Turner, I saw
where you were on a podcast the other day with
Don Junior. How about that.

Speaker 4 (01:44:11):
Yeah, it was a great chance to talk to him
and his pretty big audience about these energy issues. And
I'm always grateful to be on any program, especially yours,
who's one of my favorite. You know, talk about these issues.

Speaker 2 (01:44:25):
Well, you know when you're you know when you're I mean,
because look, I see you on Fox News all the time. Yeah,
you're on Fox Business News and the fact that you
carve out sometime for little old Dan Carroll here in
Cincinnati is a big deal to me. So I appreciate you, brother.

Speaker 4 (01:44:40):
Well, I love being on and you know, these are
important things and they deserve they deserve our attention. And
a lot of times we spend much of our media
hours talking on just nonsense, when the big issues that
matter to people's lives and livelihoods just get glossed over
or just told, you know, have this just the way
it is. Take yesterday, text day. Yeah, when was the

(01:45:03):
last time we've had a serious conversation about taxes? President
Trump's tried to talk about it, but he gets glossed
over because the media wants to talk about trans athletes,
so they want to talk about you know, those are
important issues, don't get me wrong, But for the most
Americans would much rather talk about a fair tax code
than the ongoing saga of the trans community.

Speaker 2 (01:45:26):
But Daniel Turner, far be it from me to call
you uninformed. But apparently you didn't listen to the Joe
Biden speech last night because he said the truth about taxes.
He talked about how Donald Trump wants to cut taxes
so he can give tax breaks to his billionaire friends.
That's what Joe Biden said yesterday. And I think that's

(01:45:46):
an important message for the country, don't you.

Speaker 4 (01:45:49):
It's the most boring talking point that Democrats have said
for all of my fifty years on this earth.

Speaker 2 (01:45:58):
And it doesn't make any ense. Oh they they that
playbook never changes.

Speaker 4 (01:46:04):
It's completely nonsensical and and but and it's just it's
just boring rhetoric. You know, they want to cut your
taxes so they can give their billionaire friends a tax
credit or tax break. And no one really knows what
that what that means. Even you know that the same
people who are saying that Elon Musk is rating social
security so that he can keep it for himself. And

(01:46:26):
you scratch your head and say, like, this is the
best you have, This is the best you can offer. So,
you know, it's unsurprising the Democrats don't have a winning
message on anything, because that's why they've lost their last
couple of elections and why they continue to be pouring
so poorly. You know, they can bash President Trump all
they want for whatever his tax proposals are, but boy,

(01:46:47):
they have to do some internal reckoning because they're they're
trending a little bit lower than than than explosive diarrhea
right now. So they have a lot of problems as
a party.

Speaker 2 (01:46:59):
On Barney Sanders out there at Coachella talking about environmental
justice and social justice and racial justice and all this.
But the the the a little bit of a scary
part of that is, you know, he's paleling around with
a Casio Cortez right now, and she's she's raised like
nine million dollars so far, and I guess she's gonna run,

(01:47:19):
as you know, and try to you know, bump up
or bump out Chuck Schumer. But the fact that that
she I'm frankly a little surprised that Acasio Cortez is
able to to raise that kind of money right now, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:47:36):
You know. And and the Bernie rallies just just going
on that first, They for me are everything that encapsulates
the life and the service to this nation of Bernie Sanders,
which is is really Macbeth right, it is. It is
full of sound and fury signifying nothing. Bernie Sanders is
doing these rallies at a time that they are absolutely

(01:47:58):
meaninglessening concert Quinchel. When he had the chance to affect change,
Bernie took the buyout and dropped out of the presidential
race because they offered him a lot of money and
he disappeared and he bought more houses with it. So
during these rallies, now what end? They make Bernie feel good? Right,
They make Bernie feel good the way some idiot lighting

(01:48:20):
at Tesla on fire makes him feel good. But they
really are for someone who says that he wants to
be in charge and he wants the reigns of powers,
he really doesn't. He just wants to make noise. So
the Bernie rallies for me right now are absolutely emblematic
of forty years of Bernie Sanders babbling about absolutely nothing

(01:48:41):
with no consequence. He's never authored significant legislation, he's never
held a significant hearing. The things he can do as
a senator, and senators have a lot of power, He's
done nothing. All he does is make noise. So I
am just so sick and tired of the Bernie's AOC.
You know, she's a force to be reckoned with. It

(01:49:04):
doesn't surprise me that she draws a crowd, she's an
inflammatory speaker, et cetera, et cetera. I will go on
record confidently saying there is no way in hell she
is going to beat Chuck Schumer in New York City
and New York Chuck Schumer has been in New York
politics longer than I've been alive. And I was born
in seventy four. Chuck Schumer has been an elected official

(01:49:27):
longer than I have been alive. He is not giving
up his seat to absolutely anyone, let alone someone he
has very little respect for.

Speaker 2 (01:49:35):
Yeah. Absolutely. And then I played the sound bite from
Bernie Sanders a little while ago, and he's talking about,
you know that they have to do something about global warming,
and you know, says Donald Trump thinks that climate change
is a hoax, And you know, we got to do
something about the fossil fuel industry, and he would not
be able to go to Coachella, he would not be

(01:49:56):
able to make that speech, and those people would not
be able to end that event at eight hundred bucks
a pop were it not for the fossil fuel industry.
And it's you know, it's so, it's so I think
entertaining to listen to these people rail against the fossil
fuel industry, but you know, none of the things that
they are able to do, you know, Bernie fly in

(01:50:17):
first class all over the country would exist but for
the fossil fuel industry.

Speaker 4 (01:50:23):
It's a great point, and it's why we celebrate this
industry and fight really hard for it, and of course
the millions of men and women who work directly in
the industry, but also the quality of life it provides
the American people. And it's Joe Biden's administration is proof
that if you tinker with this industry, you will not
have the same quality of life at the same price point.

(01:50:46):
Joe Biden tinkered right, and he put in green mandates,
and he stopped the drilling permits, and he cut off
land access, and he made it impossible really for the
fossil fuel industry to operate at its at what was
its car pace in twenty twenty one, and where did
we end up after four years? Everything was thirty percent
more expensive. We talk about brownouts and blackouts. We made

(01:51:09):
our enemies obviously a heck of a lot richer Russia
and Iran, China as well. So it's this is an
industry that if you want to maintain where you are
as an American at this price point, then you have
to let it flourish. And they hide behind the climate change,
the global warming again, the fear mongering for all of

(01:51:31):
our life as well. And you know, you can go
back to the early eighties and nineties and see Bernie
talking about how the end is nigh from climate You know,
you just get so tired of hearing this crap year
after year. This is it, We're all going to die
from climate change. Gore has been saying this for thirty years.

Speaker 1 (01:51:50):
You know, all of them live in.

Speaker 4 (01:51:51):
Mansions, they'll fly around the world on private jets, and
it's just a gigantic racket. The entire climate movement is
just one gigantic wye.

Speaker 2 (01:52:02):
China has decided that they want to stop shipping out
rare earth minerals. And I look, I look at this,
and and and maybe they I don't know if they
think this is their ace up the sleeve. But when
it comes to rare earth minerals, it seems to me
that America has an abundance of rare earth minerals. America
digs up plenty of rare earth minerals. But when it

(01:52:24):
comes to refining rare earth minerals and and you know,
turning them into useful products, that is where we fall
a little bit short, and maybe a lot short on
rare earth minerals. And I guess we haven't had the
political will because of the environmental lobby, to to build
these facilities that can refine these materials and make them useful.

(01:52:46):
I was reading a piece a day or so ago
talking about how that really could be changed in short order.
And and rare earth minerals are you know, they're the
flavor of the month right now. And if if the
United States gets its act to get on that end
of the deal, I don't know how China really has
that much more to hold over us to you.

Speaker 4 (01:53:06):
No, And it's really important. Again, these are the issues
we talked about at the beginning where I said, these
are the things that matter that we gloss over because
we talk about what's titillating. Rare earth are not necessarily
an exciting talking point, but we couldn't be having this
conversation without rare earth's and you're absolutely right, we have

(01:53:27):
them in abundance here in America. And just for your
reader's edification and care you listeners edification, I guess they
don't know they're only cold rare earth, not because they
themselves are rare, but because they're found in trace amounts
when you do other type of mining. Right, So you
don't mind for rare earth, you mind for gold, ors inc,
or copper or lithium, And in that mining process, what

(01:53:49):
is extracted or trace amounts of these other I believe
nineteen elements that are essential for technology, for military weaponry,
et cetera. Dean Paing fifty years ago said, you know
the world, the West has oil, but China has rare earths.
And he predicted this, and he knew they were going

(01:54:10):
to capitalize on it. And far be it from me
from being an awful Christian. But I was the other
day on social media and I called out the dead
senator Dianne Feinstein and reminded the American people that as Senator,
she led the charge to stop rare earth mining in
the United States because of course climate change. Diane Feinstein

(01:54:34):
also had a Chinese spy on her stats for twenty years,
and she's at her death was worth around one hundred
million dollars. So Diane Feinstein may have escaped the I
think jail, which would have been appropriate for someone who
betrayed her country. Maybe she will not escape God's judgment
for what she did. But people like Diane Feinstein led

(01:54:54):
the charge to stop rare earth mining refining here in America.
They hid behind CLI time a change, but somehow they
became very rich in the process, and our number one enemy,
China benefited as a result. I think that's the type
of investigation that I would like to see more of
by this current Department of Justice.

Speaker 2 (01:55:13):
Yeah, you know, Daniel Turner. One of the things I
found interesting over the weekend, and it is a narrative
that was trying to be spun by the left and
by the media, is that if Donald Trump is able
to bring a renaissance in manufacturing back to the United States,
that the jobs that will come along with that are

(01:55:35):
simply jobs where you know, people will have to live
in the drudgery of a factory work style, a factory life.
You know, we're going to go and we're going to
make iPhones. John Carl said, what are we going to do?
Become a nation of cobblers and make Nike shoes. So
here's the Democrat Party and those on the left who

(01:55:56):
for decades have told us that, you know, it's it's
concerned servatives and Republicans who denigrate work, who look down
upon those. But here they are saying that the types
of jobs that Donald Trump wants to bring back are really,
you know, jobs that are for other people, and the
you know, they're sort of beneath the dignity of Americans

(01:56:17):
to go to work in places like this.

Speaker 4 (01:56:19):
Yeah, imagine reducing the whole of American manufacturing to menial
labor like that. And you know what, Sadly, a lot
of libertarians also have taken this this this angle, and
I've seen a number of articles and social media posts
and talking heads on TV that say, you know, we

(01:56:40):
should not return to a country of people sewing sneakers together.
And I think that is just beyond insulting and myopic
and really degrading. To put all of manufacturing and the
millions of factories across America that just five, ten, fifteen
years ago had started to have continue need to disappear.

(01:57:01):
To reduce all of American manufacturing to menial toiling labor
is embarrassing. But you know what, even if that is
absolutely right, what the hell do you care if someone
is happy to work eight hours in a factory putting
widget A on widget B, if they get paid a
fair wage, if they can support their family, if they

(01:57:24):
can build their community they want to live in their
little small town outside of Akron, Ohio or whatever other
rust belts, What the hell do you cool? This is
that class of angels who think they have the right
to order society. Who the hell do you think you
are to determine what other people's labor should be. And

(01:57:45):
in that process of saying I am going to save
you from the menial task and give you a grand,
glorious job in the new green economy or in the
tech world, all you've done is taken away their livelihood
and plunge them into poverty. Green jobs never came, the
text jobs never came. The few tech jobs we have
We'd rather have h one b visas from India and

(01:58:07):
fill them with those jobs. So I just find that line.
We can hear the anger in my voice. This is
the disdain that our elite have for regular working class Americans,
and our elite are some of the worst people in
this country. And Bernie Sanders is an absolute elite, right,
John Kerry is an elite, and yet the multi billionaires
who are in this administration, Donald Trump and Elon Musk

(01:58:30):
are not. And I find that absolutely marveling that these
people who are rich and wealthy and with gold accents
and the Oval Office, yet have more respect for the
working class than any president I've seen in my lifetime.

Speaker 2 (01:58:45):
Yeah, Thomas Soul refers to these people as the as
the anointed, and it really will, you know, when they
make comments like this, it really is revealing of the
the arrogance and the condescension that they have towards the
you know, the the rank and file of the American people.
Before we let you go, Daniel Turner, this thing with
Harvard looks like it's getting serious. Trump says he's going

(01:59:07):
to freeze two point three billion dollars in funding for Harvard,
and why on earth does Harvard need two point three
billion of our taxpayer dollars when they have an endowment
that is fifty three or fifty four billion dollars. Why
does Harvard need want penny from the American taxpayer.

Speaker 4 (01:59:27):
No more research grants, as far as I'm concerned, No
more research grants, No more pell grams. You are not
going to charge ninety thousand dollars a year and then
tell some student that take out a government loan to
pay for it. No more grants, you know what. No
more foreign visas. Why why should we be giving you know,
a couple hundred spots to people from communist China or

(01:59:48):
from other countries to go study at Harvard on the
American taxpayer's dime. Would I would put the screws to
Harvard again? These these elites, these anointed as you said,
that great quote from Thomas Soul, these universities do an
awful lot of damage because they think they are above
the American people, that think they are above the American ethos.
And you know, they gleefully want to persecute Jewish students

(02:00:11):
and they want to think that's okay, and they want
to think it's okay that hamas sympathizers are allowed to
lock down buildings and scare the crap out of Jewish students,
or they think it's okay that some guy decides to
put on a skirt and say, look now I'm on
the field on the girls field hockey team and beat
the crap out of female athletes. If Harvard wants to

(02:00:32):
play that role, they can absolutely, but I would make
their life miserable. I'm at this stage that people worried
Donald Trump would be, which he hasn't be, and I
don't think he ever will. I am at the stage
of absolute unleashing the Kraken. I want revenge on all
of these awful people, these awful institutions that have done
tremendous damage, and places like Harvard and people like John Kerry.

(02:00:57):
Their come up and has arrived, and I hope they
go hard on Harvard and other universities that continue to
foment unrest in our country. Remember there is a quote
in the Constitution aligning the Constitution about the president's responsibility
of preserving domestic tranquility, and this is his job. Harvard

(02:01:19):
is fomenting the opposite, and it is the President's job
to kick these people out of the country and kick
those people out of the school if they're going to
continue to make cause civil strife and unrest.

Speaker 2 (02:01:31):
All right, well, Daniel Turner, we got to run. But
as always, it's great to have you on. I'll direct
people to town hall dot com where you have a column
up there right now, meet the Coletown the Democrats destroyed,
and you've got some quotes from Joe Burrow in there.
And you know, people love reading about our quarterback here
in Cincinnati. So Daniel Turner, always great to have you on,

(02:01:52):
and I will certainly look forward to the next time
we get a chance to talk again.

Speaker 4 (02:01:56):
Always a pleasure day, and thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (02:01:58):
All right, Daniel Turner, power the few. Check out his
website when you get a chance. Fifty five KRC E
Talk Station fifty five The Talk Station fifty five KRC
the Talk Station. Dan Carroll in for Brian Thomas, want

(02:02:20):
to thank Daniel Turner for being here. Always loved talking
to that guy. I always enjoy having this guy on too.
The main man at the FOP of Cincinnati Fraternal Order
Police is Kenkober, and Ken Cober is our guest this morning,
and Ken Kober, thanks for being here. Always appreciate your time.

Speaker 4 (02:02:36):
Sir.

Speaker 14 (02:02:37):
Hey, good morning, Dan, thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (02:02:39):
Let's talk about this case. I don't know why this
case just bothers me so much, but you know, last week,
on last Saturday night on short Vine, twenty five year
old Kyle Merrick was standing there, apparently minding his own
business when he was confronted by some fifteen year old
dude who. Accordingly, when you look at the video, it

(02:03:02):
looks like this guy, unprovoked, just pulled out a gun
and stuck it in the midsection of twenty five year
old Kyle Merrick, who attempted to run away. Turned out
he had a weapon of his own turned in fire,
and then he in turn was shot by this fifteen
year old. Now he's dead, his family is in mourning,
and Ken Kober, it certainly appears that this fifteen year

(02:03:24):
old had no business being on the streets whatsoever, without
a doubt.

Speaker 15 (02:03:29):
I mean, it's a senseless murder that absolutely could have
been prevented.

Speaker 2 (02:03:34):
Talk about some of the criminal history over the last
couple of days has started to come to light on
this guy. Can you tell us a little bit about that?

Speaker 15 (02:03:43):
Well, I mean it started at the age of thirteen thirteen,
obstructing official business, running from the police. It recently escalated
in November two and aggravated assault that was involved with
the shooting, improper or improper transferation to believe of a
firearm and then discharging a firearm into a habitation.

Speaker 2 (02:04:06):
That's the case that he should have.

Speaker 14 (02:04:07):
Been held for.

Speaker 15 (02:04:09):
And unfortunately, on April second was released from EMU. They
had already let him out of detention, but they put
him on EMU and they even released him from that
on April second.

Speaker 14 (02:04:20):
And then here's Saturday. We have a tragedy. I mean,
this is not really a surprise.

Speaker 15 (02:04:24):
This is I mean the very the basis of things
that we see all the time. You little crimes that
turn into big crimes real quick.

Speaker 2 (02:04:33):
Is it just me or does it seem like if
you have someone who is thirteen years old and they have,
between the ages of thirteen and fifteen, have sixteen separate
contacts with the juvenile court system here in Hamilton County,
is it just me or does that seem like a
lot or is that par for the course for a

(02:04:53):
lot of these kids that get involved in the juvenile system.

Speaker 15 (02:04:58):
That is certainly in excess, But you know, a lot
of these things would have been prevented had there been
actual consequences. I don't know on the first charge, the
fifth charge, the tenth charge. It's something that there's absolutely
no accountability whatsoever.

Speaker 14 (02:05:14):
So it doesn't surprise me that these kind of things
are happening.

Speaker 2 (02:05:18):
Let me read to you a piece that I found
on the WLWT website. This is from May of last year. Okay,
last month, three teenagers were arrested after a woman was
brutally attacked on a metro bus in Colerain Township. All
three teenagers were released from the Hamilton County Juvenile Detention
Center the same day. The same day, Juvenile Court Judge

(02:05:42):
Kerry Bloom says, there's only so much the law allows
her to do. Quote, in juvenile court, we focus on rehabilitation,
which is to include consideration of how do we make
sure the kid doesn't do this again, how do we
make sure we protect the community. You know, Chen Kober,
It's one thing to have a judge say something like that.

(02:06:06):
It is another thing when, to my way of thinking,
it is well within her power and her ability to
prevent these sorts of things from happening. But she doesn't
lift a finger to make any of that happen, simply
have these kids come in and then right back out
the revolving door. And in this case, for teenagers who

(02:06:27):
beat up a woman on a metro bus, they're out
on the street the exact same day.

Speaker 14 (02:06:33):
Yeah, I mean we've seen this time after time after time.

Speaker 15 (02:06:35):
You know, kids with gun charges, kids with violent selony
offenses that are letting right out. We're not talking about,
you know, a kid that stole a bag of chips
from Kroger.

Speaker 14 (02:06:44):
Because he's hungry.

Speaker 15 (02:06:45):
We're talking about kids that are that are committing heinous,
violent crimes that are endangering the community, and they're let
right back out. And this, unfortunately is the end result.
You know, I feel terrible for you know, the Myrak
family that they have to go through this, but they're
just the latest.

Speaker 14 (02:07:01):
I mean, this happens time and time again where we.

Speaker 15 (02:07:03):
Have kids that are victimizing people or they're becoming victims
of gun violence themselves because the choices they make because
they're let out of the juvenile court system.

Speaker 2 (02:07:15):
Unbelievable. Ken Kober, we got to get a quick break
in here. Can you hang around and I got a
couple more questions for you on the other side. Sure,
all right, Ken Kober, stay right there and we'll continue
on with him on fifty five KRCV talk station. All right,
fifty five KRCV talk station, we continue our conversation with
the FOP president, Ken Kober, and Ken Kober, you know

(02:07:38):
it's not like this. This kid was on the fringes
of the system. We are talking about this kid at
the age of thirteen. Let's see, he was placed on probation.
He was let's see, he was found guilty of attempted
grand theft. He was on the property of Procter and
Gamble running from police. He was is stay at the

(02:08:01):
Ohio Department of Youth Services was suspended as long as
he fought. He was supposed to follow these court orders
until he turned twenty one, but a few months later,
in November twenty four, arrested again accused of receiving stolen property.
He was on probation for the previous twenty twenty three offense.
Was in the Hamilton County juvenile system. Also in November

(02:08:24):
last year, in a case that is still pending, he
was charged with aggravated assault while in possession of a
gun and improperly discharging a firearm So here's a kid
that is obviously showing all sorts of signs of trouble,
unable to follow the rules, obviously has no parental supervision,
and they find this guy is eligible to be released

(02:08:49):
and placed on GPS monitoring. Is how many cases are
like this in the juvenile system right now? Do you
have any idea?

Speaker 15 (02:09:00):
Far too many. It happens every day. They're releasing kids
that are involved in gun violence, They're releasing kids that
are just carrying weapons, stealing cars, you name it, all
the violent crime that's going on.

Speaker 5 (02:09:14):
It's pretty much, unless you.

Speaker 15 (02:09:15):
Murder someone as a juvenile, you're going to be released.
And that's the problem.

Speaker 2 (02:09:22):
Don't we have people that can look at this in
any you know, so many times, you know, we've talked
about Government Square and the bus situation down there, and
I saw peace today where the arrests are down fifty
percent in that area. So it seems to me that
when an effort is made, a good faith effort is
made to turn our attention to a specific situation, we

(02:09:44):
can start seeing some results. But for some reason, whatever's
going on in the juvenile system, and you've got these
kids who are serious offenders at the age of fifteen,
if you're you know, involved in stolen property and discharge
a firearm and things like that, that to me seems
like a serious thing. But yeah, we just sort of,

(02:10:05):
you know, to turn our heads at that and say, uh, yeah,
put them on a GPS monitor. Does a GPS monitoring
system really serve any purpose at all? Does it really
do any good at all?

Speaker 15 (02:10:17):
Only for those that are interested in actually following the law,
because it's not something that's monitored twenty four hours a day, even.

Speaker 2 (02:10:22):
Though it's on you.

Speaker 5 (02:10:23):
You know, you don't. They don't.

Speaker 15 (02:10:24):
You don't have a probation officer sitting in a room,
you know, monitoring every GPS unit.

Speaker 2 (02:10:30):
They just it's impossible.

Speaker 14 (02:10:31):
They don't. They don't have the manpower to be able
to do that.

Speaker 15 (02:10:34):
It just doesn't happen to I understand that this same
juvenile was actually accused of cutting off as monitor once
before or as it was, so it's not surprising that
that things.

Speaker 2 (02:10:44):
Have escalated the way they have it. So, so what's
the issue is it the people who make the decisions
are is there not enough manpower to follow up on
the If it seems to me, if someone cuts off
a monitoring device that should be uh you know that
that that should be cause to have I don't know,
a probation officer, someone from the court, may you know,

(02:11:05):
make a visit to that individual and find out what's
going on. Are are we not able to do those
sorts of things.

Speaker 15 (02:11:11):
Well, ISSU is not not finding these kids and arresting
them issues keeping them, And it's these judges and magistrates
that are making the decision that we're not going to
keep these people. And unfortunately, this is what the visit
the citizens of Hamilton County voted for. The only way
that we're going to have any kind of change is
the next election. You find out what judges, you know,

(02:11:33):
specifically these juvenile court judges, which ones are going to
support law and order, which ones are going to take
the safety of the community seriously, and those are who
you have to vote for.

Speaker 14 (02:11:41):
That's the only way that these these things are ever
going to change.

Speaker 2 (02:11:47):
So this happened on short Vine. Is this totally being
handled by UC police or our campus police involved in
this as well? Now this is this is off campus.

Speaker 15 (02:11:58):
This is a Sinciet Police department is investigating this homicide.

Speaker 2 (02:12:01):
They're the ones that may be around. Okay, yeah, because
I mean literally, it's what one two blocks away from
the campus that U see. So I didn't know if
if if you had a role in this or not.

Speaker 15 (02:12:11):
Yeah, there's a lot of college kids that live in
that area, but this was solely the jurisdiction of the
City of Cincinnati's plice.

Speaker 2 (02:12:17):
All right, Ken Kober, Is there any way to uh
to uh let people know about the amount of frustration
that that you have over issues like this? And what's
the what's the disposition of this kid right now that
he get hit? Is he is he in the hospital
recovering from an injury right now? What's the disposition of
this kid?

Speaker 14 (02:12:36):
Yeah, that's my understanding.

Speaker 15 (02:12:37):
He is in custody, but I believe he's being treated
for some injuries. And then we'll end up at twenty
and we'll see how long he's there.

Speaker 2 (02:12:43):
All right? And then I mean, if is there anything
you want to say before we let you go that
that they can make any sort of difference in this
at all other than I mean you already talked about
you know, you got to pay attention to who you're
voting for sure.

Speaker 15 (02:13:00):
I Mean that's the biggest question I get, is you know,
from citizens from officers the community is what can we do? Well,
the answer is what you can do is get out
and vote for people that are going to support law
in order. That's that's ultimately what this is going to take.
If you value safety in Hamilton County, you're going to
have to vote for a judge that supports law in
order and that that really, really is the bottom line

(02:13:21):
is you have to pay attention to who these people are,
what they stand for, and make sure that you know
they align with safety in Hamilton County.

Speaker 14 (02:13:30):
That's the only thing we're going to be able to
get a safer county.

Speaker 2 (02:13:33):
Yeah, but if red flags like this sixteen contacts with
the juvenile system, uh, you know you've got receiving stolen property,
improper discharge of a firearm, possession of a firearm when
you're already under disability. If those sorts of things don't
raise red flags, what sorts of things do raise red flags?

(02:13:54):
I mean these are serious, these are serious offenses.

Speaker 4 (02:13:59):
Yeah, well you have to.

Speaker 15 (02:13:59):
Under san The magistrate that actually signed off on releasing
this juvenile from EMU was also the same magistrate that
told a child that ran from Coleraine Townships Police Department
that sometimes there is a need just to get away
from the police. So with that kind of ideology, what

(02:14:20):
do you expect. That's exactly what's coming out of the
juvenile court system.

Speaker 2 (02:14:24):
For God's sake. All right, Ken Kober, as always, I
appreciate the time, keep up the great work and stay
safe out there. Brother. We'll talk to you again, saying
I really appreciate it. Yeah, thanks for having me, Dan
take it all right, there you go, Ken Kober from
the FOP sixteen contacts with the juvenile system, improper discharge
of a firearm, receiving stolen property. These are very very

(02:14:49):
serious things. And now this kid is again ino is
it until proven guilty, But you've seen the video, looks
like like he actually, you know, is wound up being
involved and is charged with murder now of a twenty
five year old guy. Father and Kyle Merrick. It can

(02:15:15):
only imagine the hell their family is going through, and
all because of some judge or some magistrate who is
just looking at this in the completely wrong way. We
got to get to a break, Dan Carroll for Brian Thomas.
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talk station.

Speaker 1 (02:15:40):
You don't.

Speaker 2 (02:15:46):
Fifty five KRC, the talk station. I want to thank
Ken Cober for being here. I want to thank Daniel
Turner for being here, and just a couple of great
guests this morning. Also, I want to thank Charlton Allen
who was here in the six o'clock hour. If you
didn't get a chance to listen to that, go back
and listen to that, and just some great insight on
the tariffs and economic issues and Ken Kober talking. I'll

(02:16:10):
just say, I'm really bent out of shape about this kid,
this fifteen year old kid who's on the street with
a gun. After all this you know, criminal history with
the juvenile system, and it's just the way we deal
with these kids. Something really has to change. I understand

(02:16:33):
the impulse to want to, you know, rehabilitate kids, to
want to correct them from the error of their ways.
I really think I understand all that stuff. But at
some point, and if you've got you know, between the
ages of thirteen and fifteen, if you've got sixteen contacts

(02:16:58):
with the juvenile courts system, that doesn't happen by mistake.
It doesn't happen just because that kid was in the
wrong place at the wrong time, doesn't happen just because
they were hanging out with the wrong crowd. Doesn't happen,
you know, a good kid caught up in a bad circumstance. No,
maybe once, maybe a couple of times, I don't, you know,
But sixteen times in the span of less than two years,

(02:17:21):
I don't think so. And when you're talking about, you know,
unlawful discharge of a firearm, receiving stolen property, some of
the other some of the other things that this this
kid was involved in, and then you can see fit
to have this kid out on the streets in possession

(02:17:41):
of a gun again. Now, of course, the court had
no way of knowing this kid was in possession of
a gun once again. But if they were in possession
of a gun wet one time, what would make you
think that they wouldn't do it again? Cutting off the ankle, monitor,
all that kind of stuff. Let it slide, Let it slide,
let it slide, and then someone winds up paying the

(02:18:01):
ultimate price with their life. It just really it just
when I saw this story, I thought to myself, and
it was a fifteen year old kid that you know,
we are going to find out that this kid already
had a history and I hate it when I'm right
about these kind of things. It is time for me
to go.

Speaker 10 (02:18:20):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:18:20):
Sean McMahon, thank you very much. Glenn Beck is coming
up next. I got one more day to be with
you tomorrow, and God only knows what's going to happen
between now and then, but we'll be talking about it
tomorrow morning, bright and early, about five am. I hope
you can be there, and until then, have a great day.
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