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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Seven six fifty five par Ce Talk Station by Tonis
Fish and everybody a very happy Monday, and welcoming back
to the fifty five Parsee Morning Show FLP President Chapter
sixty nine since I Police Departments Union, it's Ken Cober,
Welcome back. Can It's always great having you on the program.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Than good morning, Brian, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
So this protest they had downtown I understand, is that
fifty fifty one protest just basically expressing out loud anger
against the Trump administration, screaming fascism and all that kind
of stuff. Uh, and these are happening more and more often,
I guess, mayor I have toab pervol was down there
joining in the crowd? Were there any you know, police
(00:51):
involved incidents or incidents where the police had to be involved,
was it violent? What did the cause any property destruction?
And did they have a permit? And one what was
one necessary? I guess a lot of questions to throw
out you once can but sum it up for my
listeners of me, would you please yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Well sure, there were about forty policemen there that were
either on canceled off days, so instead of being in
the communities that they normally serve they're down there, and
they were down there primarily because there was a large
group of people that were blocking streets and know they
didn't have a permit.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
And that's that's the biggest exception that I take with this.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
I support their First Amendment right to go protest and
be mad at the things they want to be mad at. However,
it costs the city roughly fifteen thousand dollars for police
protection that the city paid for when they're supposedly in
a crisis now where they're asking city departments to cut
five percent of their budget and we're just giving them
(01:46):
free service.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
You know, Flying Pig doesn't get that.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
You know, Taste the Cincinnati Octoberfest, all those events have
to get permits to close streets, and I just don't
understand why this group is any different.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Well, and I understand why the mayor of the city
is sincin and that it was there egging people on
and participating in street closures when he, more than anyone,
should know that a permit is required to do that,
and he more than anyone should know about the budget
issues that we are facing and the idea that well
the taxpayer is going to be paying for all this
extra law enforcement. It's absurd.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yeah, completely agree.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
I mean it's said I support their right to protest,
but they need to do at their expense, not the cities,
not the taxpayers. So I'm sure there were taxpayers that
are paying for some of this that probably didn't have
the same to used as them.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
And that's the biggest exception I take to this. And
then to have the.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Mayor there on top of it, where they're engaging in
an unlawful activity by closing the streets without a permit
is unlawful.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Well, given that it is unlawful, seeing to me, it
might have been a nice thing to do just to
arrest the mayor. I mean, if you're going to arrest
somebody and make an illustration of the unlawful reality of
what they're doing, why not just make it the figurehead
of the City of Cincinnatian government.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
That would make some headlines, wouldn't it.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, that'd be great, and then you'd have to go
on and defend himself that I mean, did anybody with
the police department reach out like Teresa Thiji or maybe
you know, just hey, listen to aftab. What you're doing
here isn't lawful? And you might want to address that
and do something about.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
It, not that I'm aware of now. No, I don't
suspect that they're going to.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Well, then I suppose this type of thing is going
to continue, then, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Oh, there's no doubt.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
I mean, they're going to continue to have these protests,
They're going to continue not to get permits, and they're
going to have the police will be there to continue
to protect them at the taxpayer's expense.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Well, protecting them and engaging in activity. Is it criminal
activity to shut down a street without a permit?
Speaker 3 (03:42):
I mean, is it?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Does it rise to a level of a misdemeanor or
a sitable offense?
Speaker 3 (03:49):
One would argue, yes, it is absolutely illegal, especially if
you're the one that's trying to get around to this,
you know, through the city in a vehicle and you
can't because there's large groups of people that.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Are blocking traffic.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Yes, one would say that that is probably an arrestable offense.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Well, were the police officers instructed not to issue citations?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I would suspect that answer is also yes. Absolutely, they
were there to make sure that these folks are safe,
and that's exactly what occurred.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Safe in their unlawful conduct. H correct, I'm having a
difficult time reconciling those two positions there, Ken.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Yeah, yeah, it's no different than they had a event Sunday.
Of course, yesterday was four twenty where there was encourage
to smoke marijuana in public.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
There are some officers that raise the question as to
how can we do this?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
And the city law department has told the police department
that there is no expectation to enforce this law. So
that's where we're at with city government right now in Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
So basically encouraging lawless this.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Yeah, I mean it's I've got the email that's there
is no expectation to enforce this law.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Well that's a sorry state of affairs.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Can.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I know you're you're just telling us the facts, but
that really, I mean, I can't feel anything good but
sort of almost despair over that situation, especially noting that
the mayor was actively engaged in blocking the streets and protesting.
I'm shocked, I honestly can I'm shocked. What's the general
consensus among the police officers you talked to. I got
(05:32):
to imagine they're a little disappointed at themselves.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Well that's how I ended up you know, finding out
about this is you know, I had some officers that
were there working that were kind of complaining that this
just isn't right.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Why why is this? Why are they allowed to do this?
Speaker 3 (05:48):
But if some people have to get permits, some people don't,
you know, they're there to do a job, which is
to protect this people, which is what they did, and
they did it with the utmost professionalism. But the fact
that the they're allowed to do these things without a permit,
that's so that's the biggest issue that I just don't.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Understand well selective law enforcement. And I suppose one may
argue that if it wasn't this fifty one fifty group,
and it was a bunch of you know, uh picket
fill in the blank with any other type of activity organization,
I mean, pick an offensive one like you know, maybe
a clan member rally or something, I imagine a whole
(06:26):
lot of people will be rounded up and issued citations
for breaking the law. But because it's these leftists that
are backed by the mayor, then they get a free pass.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
I just it's disturbing, Ken Cobra, It's just disturbing, also
disturbing and pivoting over violence on the Bank's question, should
we stay the hell away from the banks downtown at night,
because I know it's kind of it's obviously widely reported
there's been a lot of crime there Ken.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Yeah, it's getting harder and harder to tell people that
it's safe that they should go down there when you know,
these shootings are seem to be occurring every weekend there.
And it's a shame because it's such a neat area,
you know, and the Reds are in town, you know,
but it gets to a certain point in the night
and it's just it's overrun with criminals. And that's that's
(07:11):
the shame, because it is a really really neat place
down there.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah, it is.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
And you know, the more the word gets out about violence,
the fewer few people are gonna want to go downtown.
And all these efforts to remake Cincinnati and try to
encourage people to want to invest in and live in
the city of Cincinnati, that they can't go anywhere unless
you get a handle on crime and make it appear
at least that the city is a safe place to be.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah, it's a shame because the people that are causing
these you know, violent encounters. They're not down there patronizing
these businesses anyway. They're down there to try to start
trouble and it ruins it for the good people of
Cincinnati that are that are there to patronize these businesses
to you know, go have a drink, have dinner, and
(07:57):
you know, they're end up getting caught in the.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Middle of a shooting. And it's just it's it's ridiculous
that it goes on.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Is this young people like youth violence, maybe like miners
that are running around with firearms, or are these adults
down there running around with firearms? Is it a mixed
bag of everything.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Yeah, it's a mixed bag. There's no rhyme or reason.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
They'll have thirty forty fifty kids running around there, You'll
creating chaos, and then you'll have people in their early
twenties shooting each other.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
There's no real rhyme or reason. It's just for whatever reason,
people want to go down there.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
You said, these people aren't patronizing these businesses, they're they're
they're just waiting to find a victim.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Well, and without a substantial police presence and police officers
who have been instructed to issue citations otherwise round people
up and arrest them. I can only imagine it's going
to get worse, Ken, Yeah, and that's.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Part of the problem is they're being told they don't
do anything just standing there. I mean, we had somebody
shot in front of a policeman last summer.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
So I mean having a police presence there isn't necessarily
going to deter it. When you have people that are
just held bent on being criminals.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Well and also noting full well that the justice system
is not going to hold them accountable even if they
are arrested. We've got a real problem with that, and
I think the word has gotten out. It's like the
open border situation. When the whole world found out that
we weren't enforcing our own borders. The whole world showed
up and came into the United States. It's like, well,
if they aren't going to prosecute people to the fullest
extent of the law and make examples out of violent people,
(09:32):
then we may as well just go ahead and engage
in violence. Nobody's going to hold us accountable.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Yeah, it's a sad state of affairs right now in
Hamilton County, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Ken. I wish you had more positive information for my
listeners and me, but it is what it is, and
you've obviously illustrated a problem we've got on our hands.
And let's start with the mayor. Next time, arrest the mayor.
We'll see what happens. How's that?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
I think, like you said, that would make fantastic headlines.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I'll keep my fingers across that happens. Ken, Thanks to
spend the time my listening to me today, and God
bless you and each and every one of this insane
police department officers.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Sure, thanks for having.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Me anytime anytime, seven sixteen fifty five K see the
talk station JAS. That's sad, gonna reelect him anyway. We're
reflecting on the passing of the pope this morning, and
my Catholic friends out there are probably feeling that a
little sad about that.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
You know.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
It's Gay to Heaven Cemetery, perfect place for reflection. It's
gorgeously maintained a cemetery. They have rolling hills, mature trees.
Landscaping is guard gorgeous in this time of year with
the flowers coming up. It's just nice winding roads pathways
you can just take a nice stroll through there. It's
good for you to get you out of the house
and away from the computer for a while. Check out
(10:49):
the seasonal flowers, the trim lawns, reflective water features. Really
trankful place, perfect location for prayer and reflection. So you
find comfort and peace in the cemetery's quiet, reverence surroundings.
And it's literally open to everyone to enjoy. And they've
been ministering the trasity for more than seventy seven years,
honoring life on sacred ground. To learn more, just go
(11:11):
to Gate of Heaven dot org. That's Gate of Heaven
dot org.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
This is fifty five karc an iHeartRadio station,
Seven six fifty five par Ce Talk Station by Tonis
Fish and everybody a very happy Monday, and welcoming back
to the fifty five Parsee Morning Show FLP President Chapter
sixty nine since I Police Departments Union, it's Ken Cober,
Welcome back. Can It's always great having you on the program.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Than good morning, Brian, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
So this protest they had downtown I understand, is that
fifty fifty one protest just basically expressing out loud anger
against the Trump administration, screaming fascism and all that kind
of stuff. Uh, and these are happening more and more often,
I guess, mayor I have toab pervol was down there
joining in the crowd? Were there any you know, police
(00:51):
involved incidents or incidents where the police had to be involved,
was it violent? What did the cause any property destruction?
And did they have a permit? And one what was
one necessary? I guess a lot of questions to throw
out you once can but sum it up for my
listeners of me, would you please yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Well sure, there were about forty policemen there that were
either on canceled off days, so instead of being in
the communities that they normally serve they're down there, and
they were down there primarily because there was a large
group of people that were blocking streets and know they
didn't have a permit.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
And that's that's the biggest exception that I take with this.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
I support their First Amendment right to go protest and
be mad at the things they want to be mad at. However,
it costs the city roughly fifteen thousand dollars for police
protection that the city paid for when they're supposedly in
a crisis now where they're asking city departments to cut
five percent of their budget and we're just giving them
(01:46):
free service.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
You know, Flying Pig doesn't get that.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
You know, Taste the Cincinnati Octoberfest, all those events have
to get permits to close streets, and I just don't
understand why this group is any different.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Well, and I understand why the mayor of the city
is sincin and that it was there egging people on
and participating in street closures when he, more than anyone,
should know that a permit is required to do that,
and he more than anyone should know about the budget
issues that we are facing and the idea that well
the taxpayer is going to be paying for all this
extra law enforcement. It's absurd.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yeah, completely agree.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
I mean it's said I support their right to protest,
but they need to do at their expense, not the cities,
not the taxpayers. So I'm sure there were taxpayers that
are paying for some of this that probably didn't have
the same to used as them.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
And that's the biggest exception I take to this. And
then to have the.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Mayor there on top of it, where they're engaging in
an unlawful activity by closing the streets without a permit
is unlawful.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Well, given that it is unlawful, seeing to me, it
might have been a nice thing to do just to
arrest the mayor. I mean, if you're going to arrest
somebody and make an illustration of the unlawful reality of
what they're doing, why not just make it the figurehead
of the City of Cincinnatian government.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
That would make some headlines, wouldn't it.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, that'd be great, and then you'd have to go
on and defend himself that I mean, did anybody with
the police department reach out like Teresa Thiji or maybe
you know, just hey, listen to aftab. What you're doing
here isn't lawful? And you might want to address that
and do something about.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
It, not that I'm aware of now. No, I don't
suspect that they're going to.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Well, then I suppose this type of thing is going
to continue, then, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Oh, there's no doubt.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
I mean, they're going to continue to have these protests,
They're going to continue not to get permits, and they're
going to have the police will be there to continue
to protect them at the taxpayer's expense.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Well, protecting them and engaging in activity. Is it criminal
activity to shut down a street without a permit?
Speaker 3 (03:42):
I mean, is it?
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Does it rise to a level of a misdemeanor or
a sitable offense?
Speaker 3 (03:49):
One would argue, yes, it is absolutely illegal, especially if
you're the one that's trying to get around to this,
you know, through the city in a vehicle and you
can't because there's large groups of people that.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Are blocking traffic.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Yes, one would say that that is probably an arrestable offense.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Well, were the police officers instructed not to issue citations?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I would suspect that answer is also yes. Absolutely, they
were there to make sure that these folks are safe,
and that's exactly what occurred.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Safe in their unlawful conduct. H correct, I'm having a
difficult time reconciling those two positions there, Ken.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Yeah, yeah, it's no different than they had a event Sunday.
Of course, yesterday was four twenty where there was encourage
to smoke marijuana in public.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
There are some officers that raise the question as to
how can we do this?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
And the city law department has told the police department
that there is no expectation to enforce this law. So
that's where we're at with city government right now in Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
So basically encouraging lawless this.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Yeah, I mean it's I've got the email that's there
is no expectation to enforce this law.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Well that's a sorry state of affairs.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Can.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
I know you're you're just telling us the facts, but
that really, I mean, I can't feel anything good but
sort of almost despair over that situation, especially noting that
the mayor was actively engaged in blocking the streets and protesting.
I'm shocked, I honestly can I'm shocked. What's the general
consensus among the police officers you talked to. I got
(05:32):
to imagine they're a little disappointed at themselves.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Well that's how I ended up you know, finding out
about this is you know, I had some officers that
were there working that were kind of complaining that this
just isn't right.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Why why is this? Why are they allowed to do this?
Speaker 3 (05:48):
But if some people have to get permits, some people don't,
you know, they're there to do a job, which is
to protect this people, which is what they did, and
they did it with the utmost professionalism. But the fact
that the they're allowed to do these things without a permit,
that's so that's the biggest issue that I just don't.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Understand well selective law enforcement. And I suppose one may
argue that if it wasn't this fifty one fifty group,
and it was a bunch of you know, uh picket
fill in the blank with any other type of activity organization,
I mean, pick an offensive one like you know, maybe
a clan member rally or something, I imagine a whole
(06:26):
lot of people will be rounded up and issued citations
for breaking the law. But because it's these leftists that
are backed by the mayor, then they get a free pass.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
I just it's disturbing, Ken Cobra, It's just disturbing, also
disturbing and pivoting over violence on the Bank's question, should
we stay the hell away from the banks downtown at night,
because I know it's kind of it's obviously widely reported
there's been a lot of crime there Ken.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Yeah, it's getting harder and harder to tell people that
it's safe that they should go down there when you know,
these shootings are seem to be occurring every weekend there.
And it's a shame because it's such a neat area,
you know, and the Reds are in town, you know,
but it gets to a certain point in the night
and it's just it's overrun with criminals. And that's that's
(07:11):
the shame, because it is a really really neat place
down there.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah, it is.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
And you know, the more the word gets out about violence,
the fewer few people are gonna want to go downtown.
And all these efforts to remake Cincinnati and try to
encourage people to want to invest in and live in
the city of Cincinnati, that they can't go anywhere unless
you get a handle on crime and make it appear
at least that the city is a safe place to be.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah, it's a shame because the people that are causing
these you know, violent encounters. They're not down there patronizing
these businesses anyway. They're down there to try to start
trouble and it ruins it for the good people of
Cincinnati that are that are there to patronize these businesses
to you know, go have a drink, have dinner, and
(07:57):
you know, they're end up getting caught in the.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Middle of a shooting. And it's just it's it's ridiculous
that it goes on.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Is this young people like youth violence, maybe like miners
that are running around with firearms, or are these adults
down there running around with firearms? Is it a mixed
bag of everything.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Yeah, it's a mixed bag. There's no rhyme or reason.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
They'll have thirty forty fifty kids running around there, You'll
creating chaos, and then you'll have people in their early
twenties shooting each other.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
There's no real rhyme or reason. It's just for whatever reason,
people want to go down there.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
You said, these people aren't patronizing these businesses, they're they're
they're just waiting to find a victim.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Well, and without a substantial police presence and police officers
who have been instructed to issue citations otherwise round people
up and arrest them. I can only imagine it's going
to get worse, Ken, Yeah, and that's.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Part of the problem is they're being told they don't
do anything just standing there. I mean, we had somebody
shot in front of a policeman last summer.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
So I mean having a police presence there isn't necessarily
going to deter it. When you have people that are
just held bent on being criminals.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Well and also noting full well that the justice system
is not going to hold them accountable even if they
are arrested. We've got a real problem with that, and
I think the word has gotten out. It's like the
open border situation. When the whole world found out that
we weren't enforcing our own borders. The whole world showed
up and came into the United States. It's like, well,
if they aren't going to prosecute people to the fullest
extent of the law and make examples out of violent people,
(09:32):
then we may as well just go ahead and engage
in violence. Nobody's going to hold us accountable.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Yeah, it's a sad state of affairs right now in
Hamilton County, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Ken. I wish you had more positive information for my
listeners and me, but it is what it is, and
you've obviously illustrated a problem we've got on our hands.
And let's start with the mayor. Next time, arrest the mayor.
We'll see what happens. How's that?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
I think, like you said, that would make fantastic headlines.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I'll keep my fingers across that happens. Ken, Thanks to
spend the time my listening to me today, and God
bless you and each and every one of this insane
police department officers.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Sure, thanks for having.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Me anytime anytime, seven sixteen fifty five K see the
talk station JAS. That's sad, gonna reelect him anyway. We're
reflecting on the passing of the pope this morning, and
my Catholic friends out there are probably feeling that a
little sad about that.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
You know.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
It's Gay to Heaven Cemetery, perfect place for reflection. It's
gorgeously maintained a cemetery. They have rolling hills, mature trees.
Landscaping is guard gorgeous in this time of year with
the flowers coming up. It's just nice winding roads pathways
you can just take a nice stroll through there. It's
good for you to get you out of the house
and away from the computer for a while. Check out
(10:49):
the seasonal flowers, the trim lawns, reflective water features. Really
trankful place, perfect location for prayer and reflection. So you
find comfort and peace in the cemetery's quiet, reverence surroundings.
And it's literally open to everyone to enjoy. And they've
been ministering the trasity for more than seventy seven years,
honoring life on sacred ground. To learn more, just go
(11:11):
to Gate of Heaven dot org. That's Gate of Heaven
dot org.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
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