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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So please have this conversation. Welcome to the fifty five
carssee morning show, doctor Stanley ka Ridgeley. He's a clinical
full professor of Strategic Management at Directional University, holds a
doctor and master's in International International Relations and Security from
Duke University and an International MBA from Temple U. Russian
language linguist and former military intelligence officer and author of

(00:22):
a book we're talking about today, d EI exposed how
the biggest con of the century almost toppled higher education.
Doctor Ridgeley, Welcome to the fifty five carsy morning. So
it's a real pleasure to have you on this morning.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Well, hey, the pleasures, Aline Brian, I appreciate it. Got
a cup of job on my hand. I'm ready to
talk Todi.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
All right, we're both java equipped. Good thing to have
at this time of morning. Now, you know, part of
me wants to think that this DEI and just by
way of context, you know how old I am. I'm
fifty nine years old. So this didn't exist up until
almost you know, historically recently, and then all of a sudden,
everybody's created a DEI department. College, universities, corporations have had

(01:01):
this shoved down their throats, and part of me wants
to conclude and maybe you can answer the question for me.
This is made of This is just like a whole
cloth creation designed to provide jobs for people who went
to college and got worthless degrees in social justice. I mean,
is that better?

Speaker 2 (01:20):
You know? I tell you what. That pretty much strips
away the facade of DEDI. These are really skillless individuals
who managed to get onto the university campus. And lord
knows how they managed to do that, but they did it.
They're the big con that I talk about in DEI exposed.
These are folks with indeed worthless degrees and their work
that they like to say they're doing the work of

(01:41):
justice and that kind of thing. It's really basically just
coercing people to believe a kind of a make believe
world of the United States as a racist institution, you know,
a racist country, and the colleges universities are somehow riven
with white supremacy culture. It's a fraud, it's and it's
a real injustice to our students to have admitted these

(02:03):
people onto the campuses to perpetuate this nonsense.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Well, and one of the beautiful things about the Trump
administration say what you might or will about Donald Trump's administration,
But the Department of Government Efficiency has revealed and shown
to the American people how many billions of dollars are
being shoved into college universities, largely in support of dei initiatives,
as American taxpayer money used to indoctor and need college students.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Well, that's why the left is so screaming, because they're
being pulled off the teat of government support for these
Naxi City he They have now have to deal with
accountability and transparency, the kinds of thing that you and
I have to deal with all the time with respect
to the work. These folks want no strings attached money
to perpetuate their ideology. They're being called out, and they're

(02:49):
being called out in a way that universities understand. Funding
and bad publicity. These are the only two things that
can get a university to reform itself in university and
higher education, and they've been lacking oversight for far too long.
For instance, Harvard, you know you've got Harvard, which is
you know they've been calling for, uh, this noble opposition

(03:09):
to the Trump administration. But who runs Harvard? Well, it's
the billionaire Penny Pritsker at the head of the Harvard
Corporation with her fellow billionaire Bitty Madison and Bitty Martin.
I'm sorry, and and these are these these are the oligarchs,
the billionaire oligarchs that the left is always talking about,
and they're in control of Harvard. And we don't we
don't ever hear that. All we see is the President

(03:32):
Garber standing up for academic freedom and freedom of speech.
This is this is absurd. It's just a fraud.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Okay, So let's dive into motive. Now I can see.
I mean, the useful idiots in the world. They don't
do any thoughtful, logical, reasonable analysis of this. They don't
understand how damaging to the American economy the removal of
meritocracy is going to be. But if you're a billionaire
billionaire like Pritzker, what what what's your what? What interest
in this do you have? Why would you be pushing
this and pressing this into say Harvard, do you university?

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Well? I think is this the fact of that that
it's a money machine. When you look at it, it's
basically drafting taking taxpayer money. You've got a fifty three
billion dollar untaxed endowment. Aside from the one point one
point seven percent one point four percent of a tax,
which is the pittance. You've got this nine billion dollars
of investment slash grant money from the United States government

(04:24):
that is, no strings attached, no oversight, and you've got
this uh, this hubrist that attaches to the Harvard name.
And so you've got these billionaires that are there's there's
thirteen members of the Harvard Corporation. Pritzker is the head
of this corporation and they're they're basically is by the way,
her brother is JB. Boss Pritzker, the governor of Illinois.

(04:45):
There's nothing that comes this dating assent. They got their
money through inheritance. They're the Hyatt hotel uh errors of
that fortune. And so so I can't really speak to
her motivation except to the idea of power and the
ability through their money to actuate their ideology. And I'm

(05:05):
going back to the whole idea of DEI. It's not
what people think it is. And this has been the
major strength of DEI. It's not creating a level playing
field for everyone. It's not catering to marginalized populations, giving
everyone a hand, a helping hand. It's not just teaching
about race and teaching about slavery. No, it's none of
those things. That those things happen, it's merely as a byproduct.

(05:26):
It is the acceptance and propounding of a noxious, toxic
doctrine of racialism, where everyone is slotted into one of
two categories, either villain or victim, either you know, white
non white, oppressor or oppressed, And nothing else in one's
history matters, not your education, not your attitude, not your parents,

(05:47):
you know, not your way of Nothing matters except race.
And that is the dirty secret of DEI that is
now being exposed.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
But to accomplish what because that is divisive and ruinous
or society. It ruins the cohesiveness of the nation. I mean,
I'm a little ill libertarian kind of guy. Live and
let live. I trust you with your zipper and your wallet.
I don't want anything from you. I'll let you do
what you want to live your life as long as
it doesn't intrude into my decision making, to my choices.
We live under the banner of freedom, at least we

(06:16):
used to. You know, the flag would stand for this
freedom concept. Where yes, in the United States, you can
be yourself and choose your own pursuits, but this is
ruin us to that national cohesion. The flag is then
viewed as a symbol of racism because of you know,
historic racism and this whole concept the world just evil
white supremacists. I mean, this is leading to the end

(06:38):
of our country. And maybe is that the nefarious element
that's going on behind all this. They don't want the
United States to continue its amazing success.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
I think you're right, You've hit the nail on the
head of the idea. It's a collectivist doctrum, the idea
that your membership in a particular identity group supersedes and
is far more important than your identity as an individual
within the preferences, dreams, et cetera, et cetera. And I
think this is the latest social justice canard that has
basically achieved kind of a regnancy on the college campuses.

(07:12):
And it's it's just the old wine, old collectivist wine
in a new bottle. It's Marxism if you really wack
it down to it. It's the idea of Marxist class
consciousness has been replaced with race consciousness, and the framework
is is virtually unchanged, and so This is the idea
that it's somehow, some sort of racial equity type of

(07:33):
things is really full. It's the old social justice crowd,
collectivist crowd trying to supersede and trying to argue and
coerce people into believing this notion of collectivism that your
identity in a group is far more important than your
identity as an individual.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Well, and you're certainly not entitled your own opinion. One
of the reasons I love college and law school so much,
doctor is, you know, the Socratic method, the ide could
have an exchange of ideas. There is this, you know,
exchange of thoughts and concepts. And you weren't told that
there was one particular point of view that you must
follow or be ostracized or get an F on your paper.

(08:13):
The world's obviously different place since then. And I think
this is reflected in the in the media's shift to
a far left sort of uniform lockstep left wing reporting
perception because they're victims of this one sided view in
college education and we've lost the media to this. I mean,
is this something that can be undone? Can this bell
be unwrung or is it too late? Because colleges are

(08:36):
filled with professors who have a uniform ideology anymore. You
can't be a conservative and teach college of courses anymore.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
Well, you certainly can't be a conservative being you know,
have unlimited success. But the fact is that reforming higher
educations will be very tough because they have had they
succumb to ideological capture a long time ago. But I
do think that Trump has been a Department of Education
is doing the right thing. The only the only thing
that universities understand is money and bad publicity. That's that's

(09:08):
a lot. That's one thing that we can count on
being true. So the Department of Education is utilizing funding
is leverage against the universities, and yes, it is against
the universities to become serious institutions again, become places where
that marketplace of ideas is a reality, where those different
ideas can you contend in an open debate rather than

(09:31):
having certain views suppressed, as we find right now. And
that is indeed the case. And I detail this, and
I chronicle this, and DEI exposed do I exposed? DEI
is simply this this latest did for in perimature over
the universities, and they found it very useful because it
sounds good, doesn't it. Diversity, equity, and inclusion, just like

(09:52):
cults like the Moonies utilize the terms East and unity,
that's their motto, and the inclusion and belonging. It sounds
very cult like. Well, and that's because it is. Well.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Anytime I see the word equity anymore, I get, I
get very very concerned and worried. And the idea that
I feel concerned because I have, you know, lots of
black friends and a lot of Jewish friends, and you
point out and DEI exposed that this is this concept
of DEI has actually fueled anti Semitism. And I want

(10:26):
to get I want to get your your explanation for that.
But also the removal of meritocracy. There are many, many
people of color that have reached lofty positions through their merit,
through their experience and their knowledge of any given industry
or position, they earned it. And this idea that you're
going to just fill in a check mark that oh
black check We're going to hire that person merely because

(10:48):
they're the right color, even though there are more qualified
Asians or pick a color, skin or nationality. We're not
going to hire those people. We're going to put this
person in because they meet this equity check box or
diversity checkbox. That waters down and the gates those people
who've actually earned those positions because people have this perception like, wow,
you're a diversity higher I know you've heard that term before.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Oh well yeah. And I think it's unfortunate because I
deal with and when students, I deal with a lot
of intelligent, incredibly talented black students, you know, Indian students,
Russian students, students of all racist creeds and colors, as
they say, and there's no stigma attached to that. I mean,
and who wants the stigma of the question mark behind
your name? Did this person really earn something or did

(11:33):
they just were they just checking someone else's tech matrix box? Right?
And the idea that you're going to subvert someone's individual
achievement by labeling them something like this, because it's not
the conservative side or libertarian side or the republicanside labeling
people DEI hires. It is the folks on the left.
I think Joe Biden himself basically appointed a DEI hire

(11:56):
as his running mate. And I think that this is stigma,
is unfortunate and it's completely unnecessary. And I think we're
going to finally move beyond this. I should point out
that the latest executive order from last week striking down
disparate impact, the idea that if you can show that
there's some sort of statistical result that shows that somehow

(12:19):
one group is having a different outcome than other groups,
you can utilize this to prove individual discrimination against you.
And this has been an absurd notion that is in
our judicial system that is now being struck down. Those
of us and social sciences know that this is a fraud,
it's a fallacy. You can't do this because it's not valid.

(12:40):
And yet we find that we've been following this disparate
impact for quite some time. That's no longer repeat the case.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Doctor Stanley Ridge, originally author of DEEI Exposed, and Doctor,
we put your book on my web page at fifty
five caresey dot com so my listeners can easily obtain
a copy of it. And I'm going to go back
real quickly here because I do have quite a few
Jewish friends, you know, and not necessarily practicing Jews, they
just had to be Jewish in terms of their ancestry.
Some are in favor of Israel, some are in favor

(13:07):
of Palestinian two state solutions. They're just a mixed bag
of Jewish people. How has fueled anti Semitism And I
don't understand how it is that there's some what their
motivation is, and anger over the Jewish people is on
college campuses as if the Nazis took over.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Well, it's very similar in the sense that this it's
an ideology, DEAs and ideology, and the ideology tells them
to behave in certain ways. That ideology says that that
Jews basically are white people and therefore undeserving of protections
afforded other mimized people. That's what they say. And the
fact is that the Jews, especially those from Israel, are

(13:47):
considered settler colonialists. As a result, they are by definition
of oppressors. So it doesn't matter how many assaults or
bullying or trespassing or vandalism, that kind of thing is
porpetrated against Jewish students, doesn't matter. And I have an
entire chapter on this of howdi has perpetrated this anti
Semitic ethos on campus, that it's okay to discriminate against

(14:11):
Jewish students, it's okay to bully them and to assault
them because they deserve it, because they are oppressors in
this framework that I've described to you, that that's the
core of DEI, that you and I are in a
particular racial category and are deserving of our faith, the
faith being determined by the DEI ideology. It's the thing
that motivated Luigimangioni to kill Brian Thompson in New York.

(14:36):
His ideology for him to do this.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Well, it's I wish they were familiar with the concept
of two wrongs don't make a right. That we once
had slavery in the United States, and it was wrong,
and we did right that wrong, and many laws were
put into place, and many laws were struck from the
books to remove that from our society. And we've made
huge strides toward that, you know, everybody's equal kind of perception.

(15:00):
They're destroying it. They're just they're turning it on its head.
It's it's okay to discriminate against someone on the color
based on the color of their skin. It's just got
to be the right color in their eyes.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah, I think it is. I'm really disturbed by a
lot of students who buy into the whole social justice
mantra and this social justice collectivist mantra. It has a
whole host of ideologies under its umbrella, and DEI is
just one of them. But it sounds very good for
someone to say, well, I'm supporting I'm working for social justice.
And if you probe beyond that cliche, you find there's

(15:34):
not much there except the fact that the idea of coercion.
I'm going to compel you to do something that I
want you to do that my ideology tells you do
because I have access to this hidden knowledge that the
left has always been claiming on the college campuses. Doctor.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Originally, it's been a fantastic conversation this morning. I really
appreciate you spending time with my listeners and me to
talk about your book, DEGI. I exposed how the biggest
count of the century almost toppled higher education. I'll encourage
my copy my listeners head over to my web page
and get a copy of the book.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Doctor.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Thanks again for your time today and keep up the
great work.

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