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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Carsee the talk station BRN time is always pleased to
welcome with the fifty five Carsy Morning Show, and I
wish we had a lust depressing moment a topic to
talk about with FOP President Ken Kobert. Ken, welcome to
the morning show. It's good to have you on.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Hey, good morning, Brian, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Somber, just heart wrenching reality that this Rodney Hinton junior guy,
the father of the eighteen year old who was carrying
a glock twenty three forty calib with an extended magazine,
lost his life and at police shootout, Deputy Larry Henderson
was intentionally targeted apparently by this Rodney Hinton junior guy.
(00:38):
Your reaction, Ken, I know this has got to be emotional,
and I just how does it hit you as a
police officer and an FOP resident or representative.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
It's like a terrible nightmare. I just won't go away.
I mean, it's been on the heart of all the
law enforcement officers, you know, as we deal with YO
what's going on. You have talked to many deputies that
are friends of mine, and it's just it's a terrible situation.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Terrible understatement. And I know that's how you got a
phrase that Deputy Larry Henderson had nothing at all to
do with the hint and shooting Diddy.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
No, nothing, you know, deputy that just retired a couple
of months ago, that it was decided to continue to
serve the community as a special deputy. And it was
literally just uh, you know, running a traffic light for
UC's graduation had nothing to do with this whole situation.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
And the it was the Cincinni Police Department who were
involved in the investigation that's still in vehicle which ultimately
led to Ryan Hinton's death.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Correct, Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
So he killed a sheriff's deputy, so not even the
same uniform as the organization that was involved in his
son's death.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Right, I mean, this was just pure evil that wanted
to target a police officer because his eighteen year old
son decided to make some terrible decisions that cost him
his life.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
You forced the police officer.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
To take his life, and because of that, he decided
that the retribution was to find the first cop that
he had the opportunity to kill.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
It's just it's pure evil, is all it is.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
It is, And with all the witnesses and evidence there's
not a question in my mind he's going to be
found guilty. But turning back to the shooting, who did
And I know you had commented before the video was
released that the video was going to, you know, provide
pretty clear information that it was a justifiable shooting, and
I know Police Chief three Teresa Thiji says it was justified.
(02:36):
I was a little disappointed that it wasn't more evident
that the gun was pointed at the officer. Are we
missing some details on that the shooting incident?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Well, I mean, here's the bottom line.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
You have these body cameras that and I went to
recently to a class that talks about body cameras and
what their capabilities are. That lends in these body cameras
and these acts on body cameras, the lens cost a
total of eight cents.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
So it's really no surprise when.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
You talk about somebody that's wearing a camera that is
running as well as a suspect that's running, that it's
not going to capture everything.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
It's not a surprise. It was blurry at some point
in society.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
We've got to get back to we're going to believe
what a police officer says an officer that is sworn
to take an oath that is the epitome of integrity.
We've got to start believing that if this officer says
this just because it's not captured because the video is blurry,
when are we going to decide that we're going to
believe what a police officer says instead of saying, well,
(03:42):
if it's not on camera, if it's not so clear
on this camera what happened, then we're not going to
believe that it's true.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
That's what we have to get back to in society.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Well, and the other component is people fail to put
themselves in the position of a police officer. And that
officer was aware because if I got the detail is right,
and you can correct me if I'm wrong, because I
don't want to get up and get bad information out there. Ken,
But the radio was on and going back and forth
among the officers. He was told in advance the kid
(04:10):
had a firearm on him. Correct, so he's gonna you
can sorry, No, I'm just kidding. So he's on alert
the kid. The kid's got a gun for God's take.
My life is in peril and the community's lives in peril.
My other officer's lives may be in peril. So you
got a heightened sense of awareness and adrenaline flowing and
concern that coming around that dumpster is a kid with
(04:31):
a gun.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
You can hear that on the body camera. You can
hear the other officer yelling he's got a gun. He's
got a gun. He's got a gun. He's on your right,
so that that can all be heard on the audio,
and this police officer is simply trying to protect the community.
There's no question as to whether this guy had a gun.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
The only question is and there's no question that he
was armed. There's no question he ran with a gun.
The question is, well, it doesn't show on the video
specifically that that he pointed it at him. But when
you watch the video, if you slow it down, you
can see you know where the officer or or where
the suspect is, what he's doing, and in fact, he
was shot in the chest. Now, I don't know in
(05:13):
what world people live, but if you shoot someone in
the chest, it's hard to say that they were running
away from you.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
That's point, that's that's the reality.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
He was shot twice, once in the chest. The second
time was in his arm that went through his chest.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
And I said, the other component is in that situation,
he's brandishing a firearm and I mean it only takes
us a moment's time for that firearm and then the
pointing directly the police officer and in your in. Again,
it's a situational awareness kind of thing. I mean, you
you have to be in a position to be able
to defend and protect yourself and if you're that far
(05:52):
away from it's not like you pull a taser out
and tase the guy.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I mean, there's nothing that says you when a police
officer used deadly force that they have to you know,
they have to have you know, been shot at or
anything like that. All it says, constitution says, and what
our rules, if you will, of engagement say is that
you have to believe that your life or the life
of another is in danger. That's exactly what that officer did.
(06:19):
It's an officer has a lot of experience. That's a
fantastic police officer that in that time he thought that
his life was in danger and he did exactly what
he should have done. And instead of you know, these
community members that are all up in arms about this,
instead of them going did this officer act reasonable?
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Which is absolutely true.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
The blame should be put on this eighteen year old
kid that's running from a stolen car with a gun
that decided to make a decision that forced this officer
to take his life. That's where the blame is, not
on this police officer who is protecting his.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Community eminent apprehension of grievous bodily harm or death right.
I mean, if you reasonably believe that your life is
in danger, then you're entitle to use deadly force.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
That's the law. Yeah, that's pretty simple. That is what
the law says. And that's exactly what he did.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Yeah, any any understanding about where this firearm came. I mean,
he's an eighteen year old kid carrying at clock twenty
three with an extended mag and I guess I can
understand parents being upset about their their son being killed,
But the idea that you would go and kill an
unrelated sheriff's deputy over this just is kind of mind
boggling when you have to look at the circumstances. Your
(07:30):
kid was running around with a firearm and wasn't even
lawfully entitled to carry one, And I suspect the thing
was probably stolen. Anyway, I'll hold your comment and thought
on that, Ken, because we're out of time in this segment,
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Speaker 1 (09:02):
Terms with FOP President Ken Kober talking about the officer
involved shooting with Ryan Hinton which led to his father
murdering Deputy Larry Henderson, who had no connection with the
officer involved shooting. High tension situations, stolen vehicle. Ryan Hinton,
the late one of four kids in the stolen vehicle,
ran from police officers. Ryan of course had the firearm
(09:25):
in his hand, as we know, body of camera foota
our body video from the Sheriff's deputies proved that that
was indeed the case, and as kenn has pointed out,
you don't have to have the gun directly aim with
the melon of the police officer. If you have an
eminent apper a reasonable eminent apprehension of reasonable bodily harm
(09:46):
or grievous bodily harm, you're allowed to use deadly force.
It's the law. And of course Ken defends the officer's shooting.
So Ryan Hinton's dead. How in the hell is it
that an eighteen year old was carrying around a glock?
And you face this kind of thing each and every
day in the police department, don't you, Ken?
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Sure? Yeah, And that and that's something that's that's still
being investigated, is how that came about. You know, there
was another stolen gun in the car. I mean, it's
just it's something that never should have happened, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
I know.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
One of the things that has been talked about is
why did this kid get out of the car.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
And run with a gun?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
You know why is he's running the gun drops he
drops the gun and then he picks it up anyway
and then runs to the dumpsters and points.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
It at the cop.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
It's like, why did he do all these things? All
he did to do is get out of the car
and run. You leave the gun in the car, you know,
once you drop the gun, just just leave it and run,
you know, if that's what you want to do. I mean,
that's that's exactly what we expect from these criminals that
are stealing cars, stealing guns. Just run from the police.
And this never happens. I mean, these were just fatal
(10:51):
mistakes that were made by an eighteen year old kid
that either either wasn't taught, you know, growing up, how
to be a respectful human being, or he just decided
to make bad decisions.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
You know, this is this is one of these things.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Where the police are certainly you feel terrible, terrible that
this happened. Yeah, you're terrible for the family that that
this eighteen year old made these horrible mistakes. But it's
just what it was. These were mistakes that he made
that led to his death, not the police officer.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
And as far as the police officers concerned, what's what's
the next step for the police officer.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Well, I mean right now he's off on administrative leave
trying to trying to process this. I've been in contact
with him, and you know, it's bad enough you have
to deal with the fact that you took somebody's life
and then all of a sudden the next day.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
You know, now you have.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
A deputy, you know that that gets murdered simply for
doing his job by the same family that created this
mess on Thursday. And it's just it's a tragic all around.
I mean, trying to process this. You're talking to Sheriff's
deep that he's talking to your city police officers that
I work with, and you know, trying to process this
mess right now is just it's been very, very difficult.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Well and you know, as to the officer processing this,
I imagine he's got to feel absolutely terrible about it.
And I've got one listener out there who thinks that
the reason people get into law enforcement because they want
to shoot people. And I've called them out about that
before and I said, absolute utter nonsense. Barber sterising if
you will, but you know, speak to someone who actually
thinks along those lines.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Can I mean, there's just no reasoning with somebody like that.
You know, having been in law enforcement for nearly twenty
five years, I've been in these situations.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
It's terrible.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Nobody nobody wants to go to work and go you
know what, I feel like shooting somebody tonight. I mean,
that is just that defies all sensibilities. Well, nobody wants
to go through this. Nobody wants to have to live
with the fact that they had to take somebody's life.
I mean, everybody comes to work every day going and
I hope today is just a really nice.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Easy day to be able to get through. Amen. And
unfortunately that just.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Wasn't that On third Well, and to the extent someone
actually harbors those feelings inside, they're weeded out when they
go through the academy, are they not?
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Without a doubt?
Speaker 3 (13:07):
I mean, you have a psychological exam that's roughly three
hundred question psychological.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Evaluation that you take, and then you go meet with.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
A psychiatrist that will evaluate the questions that you answered,
how you answered them. And then you have a face
to face fifteen to twenty minute interview with a psychiatrist
that evaluates your body language, all of these things, what
you say, how you're saying it, to determine whether or
not you seem like you would be somebody that would
(13:39):
be fit to do this job.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Oh, and I take great comfort in knowing that. And finally,
before we part company, Ken Cover and I appreciate your
time today. Any word out there, I mean, do the
police follow social media and anticipation of something like this,
leading to what we've seen before. In spite of the
facts and circumstances, people will nonetheless take to the streets
and protest police behavior, like Black Lives Matter, for example.
(14:03):
Any rumblings out there in the world about that potential.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
You know, we've had investigators that have been monitoring social
media and all these things all weekend and they're you know,
we've had death threats that hey, it's time to go
kill some more cops, and you know, it appears that
for the most part, this has just been a bunch
of keyboard warriors that are you know, no doubt, I
get it. They're probably grieving too. There's some of them
that are just there for nefarious reasons that could give
(14:30):
two hoots about whether you know, it's the hitting family
or the police that just want to try to stir
up a mess. Yeah, but there's really so far, I mean,
there hasn't been anything that's been credible, but it's certainly
something that you know, we've been monitoring just to make
sure that you know, the city is safe, that the
county is safe, all the citizens that are here.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
So there hasn't been anything terribly credible.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Yet hopefully everybody decides to grief peacefully. But yeah, so far,
I think everything's kind of been okay.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Well, we'll pray that the situation remains calm and collected
and people approach it exactly the way that you pointed out. Ken.
I don't envy you and your job at this point
in time, but I appreciate your willingness to talk to
my listeners about the situation on behalf of all of
my listening audience, and I speak with the exception of one.
Apparently we all support you and appreciate what you do
each and every day, putting your lives on the line
(15:25):
for the safety of the community. And thank you for
doing so.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
All right, Brian, thanks for having me my.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
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Carsee the talk station BRN time is always pleased to
welcome with the fifty five Carsy Morning Show, and I
wish we had a lust depressing moment a topic to
talk about with FOP President Ken Kobert. Ken, welcome to
the morning show. It's good to have you on.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Hey, good morning, Brian, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Somber, just heart wrenching reality that this Rodney Hinton junior guy,
the father of the eighteen year old who was carrying
a glock twenty three forty calib with an extended magazine,
lost his life and at police shootout, Deputy Larry Henderson
was intentionally targeted apparently by this Rodney Hinton junior guy.
(00:38):
Your reaction, Ken, I know this has got to be emotional,
and I just how does it hit you as a
police officer and an FOP resident or representative.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
It's like a terrible nightmare. I just won't go away.
I mean, it's been on the heart of all the
law enforcement officers, you know, as we deal with YO
what's going on. You have talked to many deputies that
are friends of mine, and it's just it's a terrible situation.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Terrible understatement. And I know that's how you got a
phrase that Deputy Larry Henderson had nothing at all to
do with the hint and shooting Diddy.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
No, nothing, you know, deputy that just retired a couple
of months ago, that it was decided to continue to
serve the community as a special deputy. And it was
literally just uh, you know, running a traffic light for
UC's graduation had nothing to do with this whole situation.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
And the it was the Cincinni Police Department who were
involved in the investigation that's still in vehicle which ultimately
led to Ryan Hinton's death.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Correct, Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
So he killed a sheriff's deputy, so not even the
same uniform as the organization that was involved in his
son's death.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Right, I mean, this was just pure evil that wanted
to target a police officer because his eighteen year old
son decided to make some terrible decisions that cost him
his life.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
You forced the police officer.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
To take his life, and because of that, he decided
that the retribution was to find the first cop that
he had the opportunity to kill.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
It's just it's pure evil, is all it is.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
It is, And with all the witnesses and evidence there's
not a question in my mind he's going to be
found guilty. But turning back to the shooting, who did
And I know you had commented before the video was
released that the video was going to, you know, provide
pretty clear information that it was a justifiable shooting, and
I know Police Chief three Teresa Thiji says it was justified.
(02:36):
I was a little disappointed that it wasn't more evident
that the gun was pointed at the officer. Are we
missing some details on that the shooting incident?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Well, I mean, here's the bottom line.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
You have these body cameras that and I went to
recently to a class that talks about body cameras and
what their capabilities are. That lends in these body cameras
and these acts on body cameras, the lens cost a
total of eight cents.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
So it's really no surprise when.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
You talk about somebody that's wearing a camera that is
running as well as a suspect that's running, that it's
not going to capture everything.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
It's not a surprise. It was blurry at some point
in society.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
We've got to get back to we're going to believe
what a police officer says an officer that is sworn
to take an oath that is the epitome of integrity.
We've got to start believing that if this officer says
this just because it's not captured because the video is blurry,
when are we going to decide that we're going to
believe what a police officer says instead of saying, well,
(03:42):
if it's not on camera, if it's not so clear
on this camera what happened, then we're not going to
believe that it's true.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
That's what we have to get back to in society.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Well, and the other component is people fail to put
themselves in the position of a police officer. And that
officer was aware because if I got the detail is right,
and you can correct me if I'm wrong, because I
don't want to get up and get bad information out there. Ken,
But the radio was on and going back and forth
among the officers. He was told in advance the kid
(04:10):
had a firearm on him. Correct, so he's gonna you
can sorry, No, I'm just kidding. So he's on alert
the kid. The kid's got a gun for God's take.
My life is in peril and the community's lives in peril.
My other officer's lives may be in peril. So you
got a heightened sense of awareness and adrenaline flowing and
concern that coming around that dumpster is a kid with
(04:31):
a gun.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
You can hear that on the body camera. You can
hear the other officer yelling he's got a gun. He's
got a gun. He's got a gun. He's on your right,
so that that can all be heard on the audio,
and this police officer is simply trying to protect the community.
There's no question as to whether this guy had a gun.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
The only question is and there's no question that he
was armed. There's no question he ran with a gun.
The question is, well, it doesn't show on the video
specifically that that he pointed it at him. But when
you watch the video, if you slow it down, you
can see you know where the officer or or where
the suspect is, what he's doing, and in fact, he
was shot in the chest. Now, I don't know in
(05:13):
what world people live, but if you shoot someone in
the chest, it's hard to say that they were running
away from you.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
That's point, that's that's the reality.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
He was shot twice, once in the chest. The second
time was in his arm that went through his chest.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
And I said, the other component is in that situation,
he's brandishing a firearm and I mean it only takes
us a moment's time for that firearm and then the
pointing directly the police officer and in your in. Again,
it's a situational awareness kind of thing. I mean, you
you have to be in a position to be able
to defend and protect yourself and if you're that far
(05:52):
away from it's not like you pull a taser out
and tase the guy.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I mean, there's nothing that says you when a police
officer used deadly force that they have to you know,
they have to have you know, been shot at or
anything like that. All it says, constitution says, and what
our rules, if you will, of engagement say is that
you have to believe that your life or the life
of another is in danger. That's exactly what that officer did.
(06:19):
It's an officer has a lot of experience. That's a
fantastic police officer that in that time he thought that
his life was in danger and he did exactly what
he should have done. And instead of you know, these
community members that are all up in arms about this,
instead of them going did this officer act reasonable?
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Which is absolutely true.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
The blame should be put on this eighteen year old
kid that's running from a stolen car with a gun
that decided to make a decision that forced this officer
to take his life. That's where the blame is, not
on this police officer who is protecting his.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Community eminent apprehension of grievous bodily harm or death right.
I mean, if you reasonably believe that your life is
in danger, then you're entitle to use deadly force.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
That's the law. Yeah, that's pretty simple. That is what
the law says. And that's exactly what he did.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Yeah, any any understanding about where this firearm came. I mean,
he's an eighteen year old kid carrying at clock twenty
three with an extended mag and I guess I can
understand parents being upset about their their son being killed,
But the idea that you would go and kill an
unrelated sheriff's deputy over this just is kind of mind
boggling when you have to look at the circumstances. Your
(07:30):
kid was running around with a firearm and wasn't even
lawfully entitled to carry one, And I suspect the thing
was probably stolen. Anyway, I'll hold your comment and thought
on that, Ken, because we're out of time in this segment,
I want to bring you back for a few more
words from Ken Cover, FOP President on this absolute tragedy
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Terms with FOP President Ken Kober talking about the officer
involved shooting with Ryan Hinton which led to his father
murdering Deputy Larry Henderson, who had no connection with the
officer involved shooting. High tension situations, stolen vehicle. Ryan Hinton,
the late one of four kids in the stolen vehicle,
ran from police officers. Ryan of course had the firearm
(09:25):
in his hand, as we know, body of camera foota
our body video from the Sheriff's deputies proved that that
was indeed the case, and as kenn has pointed out,
you don't have to have the gun directly aim with
the melon of the police officer. If you have an
eminent apper a reasonable eminent apprehension of reasonable bodily harm
(09:46):
or grievous bodily harm, you're allowed to use deadly force.
It's the law. And of course Ken defends the officer's shooting.
So Ryan Hinton's dead. How in the hell is it
that an eighteen year old was carrying around a glock?
And you face this kind of thing each and every
day in the police department, don't you, Ken?
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Sure? Yeah, And that and that's something that's that's still
being investigated, is how that came about. You know, there
was another stolen gun in the car. I mean, it's
just it's something that never should have happened, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
I know.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
One of the things that has been talked about is
why did this kid get out of the car.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
And run with a gun?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
You know why is he's running the gun drops he
drops the gun and then he picks it up anyway
and then runs to the dumpsters and points.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
It at the cop.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
It's like, why did he do all these things? All
he did to do is get out of the car
and run. You leave the gun in the car, you know,
once you drop the gun, just just leave it and run,
you know, if that's what you want to do. I mean,
that's that's exactly what we expect from these criminals that
are stealing cars, stealing guns. Just run from the police.
And this never happens. I mean, these were just fatal
(10:51):
mistakes that were made by an eighteen year old kid
that either either wasn't taught, you know, growing up, how
to be a respectful human being, or he just decided
to make bad decisions.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
You know, this is this is one of these things.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Where the police are certainly you feel terrible, terrible that
this happened. Yeah, you're terrible for the family that that
this eighteen year old made these horrible mistakes. But it's
just what it was. These were mistakes that he made
that led to his death, not the police officer.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
And as far as the police officers concerned, what's what's
the next step for the police officer.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Well, I mean right now he's off on administrative leave
trying to trying to process this. I've been in contact
with him, and you know, it's bad enough you have
to deal with the fact that you took somebody's life
and then all of a sudden the next day.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
You know, now you have.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
A deputy, you know that that gets murdered simply for
doing his job by the same family that created this
mess on Thursday. And it's just it's a tragic all around.
I mean, trying to process this. You're talking to Sheriff's
deep that he's talking to your city police officers that
I work with, and you know, trying to process this
mess right now is just it's been very, very difficult.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Well and you know, as to the officer processing this,
I imagine he's got to feel absolutely terrible about it.
And I've got one listener out there who thinks that
the reason people get into law enforcement because they want
to shoot people. And I've called them out about that
before and I said, absolute utter nonsense. Barber sterising if
you will, but you know, speak to someone who actually
thinks along those lines.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Can I mean, there's just no reasoning with somebody like that.
You know, having been in law enforcement for nearly twenty
five years, I've been in these situations.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
It's terrible.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Nobody nobody wants to go to work and go you
know what, I feel like shooting somebody tonight. I mean,
that is just that defies all sensibilities. Well, nobody wants
to go through this. Nobody wants to have to live
with the fact that they had to take somebody's life.
I mean, everybody comes to work every day going and
I hope today is just a really nice.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Easy day to be able to get through. Amen. And
unfortunately that just.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Wasn't that On third Well, and to the extent someone
actually harbors those feelings inside, they're weeded out when they
go through the academy, are they not?
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Without a doubt?
Speaker 3 (13:07):
I mean, you have a psychological exam that's roughly three
hundred question psychological.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Evaluation that you take, and then you go meet with.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
A psychiatrist that will evaluate the questions that you answered,
how you answered them. And then you have a face
to face fifteen to twenty minute interview with a psychiatrist
that evaluates your body language, all of these things, what
you say, how you're saying it, to determine whether or
not you seem like you would be somebody that would
(13:39):
be fit to do this job.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Oh, and I take great comfort in knowing that. And finally,
before we part company, Ken Cover and I appreciate your
time today. Any word out there, I mean, do the
police follow social media and anticipation of something like this,
leading to what we've seen before. In spite of the
facts and circumstances, people will nonetheless take to the streets
and protest police behavior, like Black Lives Matter, for example.
(14:03):
Any rumblings out there in the world about that potential.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
You know, we've had investigators that have been monitoring social
media and all these things all weekend and they're you know,
we've had death threats that hey, it's time to go
kill some more cops, and you know, it appears that
for the most part, this has just been a bunch
of keyboard warriors that are you know, no doubt, I
get it. They're probably grieving too. There's some of them
that are just there for nefarious reasons that could give
(14:30):
two hoots about whether you know, it's the hitting family
or the police that just want to try to stir
up a mess. Yeah, but there's really so far, I mean,
there hasn't been anything that's been credible, but it's certainly
something that you know, we've been monitoring just to make
sure that you know, the city is safe, that the
county is safe, all the citizens that are here.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
So there hasn't been anything terribly credible.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Yet hopefully everybody decides to grief peacefully. But yeah, so far,
I think everything's kind of been okay.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Well, we'll pray that the situation remains calm and collected
and people approach it exactly the way that you pointed out. Ken.
I don't envy you and your job at this point
in time, but I appreciate your willingness to talk to
my listeners about the situation on behalf of all of
my listening audience, and I speak with the exception of one.
Apparently we all support you and appreciate what you do
each and every day, putting your lives on the line
(15:25):
for the safety of the community. And thank you for
doing so.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
All right, Brian, thanks for having me my.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Pleasure, Ken, take care. It's six forty eight to fifty
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the line with the comment look forward to talking to
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