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and Neil. That takes place at seven point thirty. Topic
Make Government Work new campaign from AFP. Can you make
government work? Not during a shutdown? Oh yeah, maybe you can.
It's like Donald Trump got a lot of his appointees
approved yesterday. Some work can get done. Congressman Thomas Massy

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eight to five. Congressman Massy, you'll talk about the shutdown,
And oh, has anybody else heard anything about the Epstein
files lately? I know we got a lot going on
into the world. We're easily distracted, maybe intentionally, so Congress
am asking is going to be talking about the Epstein
file vote, which may be fast approaching. A lot of

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folks sweating bullets. And I still can't abide the Trump
administration just turning on doing a one point eighty on
releasing those documents. Lots of very well healed folks suggested
will be implicated if the documents are released. Big money folks,
champions of industry, those evil corporate billionaires. At least suggestions
along those lines have been made. Go ahead and figure

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out for yourself. I don't know why they haven't been released.
Maybe Congressman Massi can shed some light on that and
be around at eight oho five for that conversation. And
Judge endeda Poulitano when presidents kill more about launching rocket
strikes and blowing up drug dealers, and they're recently it
was kind of odd. There's a DOJ A Justice Department

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Legal analysis. Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel issued an
opinion which so far has not been circulated, you and
I haven't been able to see. CNN reported on this
which said, basically, the Trump administration can authorize these strikes
on the cartels, but he has unit basically unlimited authority.

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PRESIDENTI allowed to authorize deadly force against a broad range
of cartels because they pose what the legal councils suggests
are an imminent threat to Americans. And also the opinion
suggests the list of cartels goes beyond the ones that
the administration has publicly designated as terrorist organization, like the
deer Agua gang. That I believe that those whose boats

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are being blown up on the off the coast of Venezuela.
But it is pointed out, and this is something that
Politana will also argue. I'm sure historically drug trafficking is
a criminal act, and the Coastguard just picks up the
drug trafficking vessels, arrests the smugglers, and we well prosecute

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them in a court of law with due process. You know,
I'm worried about this. I know no one's got any
love for drug dealers, and you know, I'll admit to
a bit of shot and fraud. I want to see
a bomb blow up a boat full of drugs. But
I don't abide by it happening that way. There seems
to me there should be some congressional and you know,
this is literally a war that's being waged. Granted it's

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not under you know, against an army flying under the
color of a state flag. This is an organized drug
or cartel. It's kind of like fighting terrorists, isn't it.
Rather than blowing people up in the name of some
fundamentalist religion, Well, they're committing acts of crime and killing
people in the name of making money by well, shipping
drugs into the United States where the demand is quite heavy.

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I think we need to look more inwardly with regard
to the drug problem, because we are the problem. There's
always an entrepreneur out there who's going to see a
money making opportunity and ignore the morality and ethics of
making money just for the sake of making money. Welcome
to the drug industry. So there have been I think
four strikes on these boats so far, and again I

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see it happening. But we live in a crazy world.
This whole Russia Ukraine drone war has really revealed the
obvious nature of the change of the military landscape. And
if you can go out Amazon and order a drone
and have it delivered to your front door today, it's
that easy to get a drone. And these military drones
obviously are inexpensive to manufacture, and they're literally everywhere in

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the tens of thousands. All you need is a drone
to blow something up. Can you use the hell fire missile?
Sure you can. Can you use other yeah? But what
if some other country with this technology and everybody's getting it.
It's not like a nuclear power technology or nuclear weapons technology.

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Apparently that's very difficult to get because you have to
have centrifuges. You have to invest tens of millions and
billions perhaps dollars to create a bomb. Look at North Korea,
they've been working at it for decade. Look at Well.
Of course, you've got a lot of countries. Iran has
been working on building a bomb for decades and decades. Now, right,
it isn't easy to accomplish. But can you buy up

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a whole bunch of drones and conduct missile strike?

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Sure?

Speaker 3 (06:57):
What if they designated Donald Trump or someone the administration
or just the United States generally as a country that
poses an eminent threat to them. I mean, Iran can
make a good argument for that, couldn't it. We drones
strike them and blow them up and drop big bunker
busting bombs on them. We are an eminent threat to
the existence of Iran. Maybe they can start launching drones

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against us. I know we would declare an act of
it would be an active war. We have nuclear weapons.
That's why other countries maybe don't go after us. The
great deterrence, this massive military might we have. But does
that justify our massive military might? Does it justify us
going off and letting any president? Remember this shouldn't be

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an argument over whose ox is being gored. Some other
president under a different political party. Perhaps in this role,
that is a tremendous amount of power and it's a
well it is literally waging war. Now you can make
the argument, well, this is directed at drug dealers. This
isn't directed at Venezuela or fill in the blank on
any country. But if it's taking place on their soil,

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in their waters, they could perceive it as an active
war in spite of the fact it's an act directed
at criminal element. So fast and loose with military power
is not a road I want to go down to
It should be a thoughtful analysis. It should be involved people.
I would argue, of both political stripes. It's difficult for
me to say that, but that's where I am. We

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have a constitution, It limits the presidential powers and war
is something that should be avoided at all costs, even
if it's a war on well, cartels and boats floating
around in the middle of the ocean thousands of miles
away eminent threat you decide. I imagine other lawyers and

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a different team of lawyers from the Office the Legal
Counsel could have come up with a different conclusion. Yeah,
it does happen that way anyway. Early votings started today
since ani out Ere and Hamilton County early voting, it's open.
Get out to the Board of Elections, cast your vote.
I saw this article from Scott Warman over at the
enquir and you know, I was really irked about it.

(09:09):
I'm irked every time local reporters talk and mention Corey
Bowman because it's always JD Vance's half brother, Corey Bowman
or Corey Bowman jd Vance's half brother. Does that have
any relevance on who Corey Bowman is? Jd Vance hasn't
even I mean, isn't running. He hasn't really endorsed anybody.
He's not campaigning for Corey Bowman. In fact, according to
the reporting in this article, they rarely even talk, and

(09:31):
when they do they talk about, you know, family stuff.
But there it is in the headline. In Cincinnati. JD.
Vance's half brother hopes for a political earthquake in mayor race.
Corey Bowman's name is not even in the headline, despite
or maybe because of Bowman's personal relationship to the White House.

(09:51):
Bowman faces a steep climb to unsee democratic incumbent have
to have pervall Hm this time around. The Republican canon
for the city mayor also happens to be Vice President
JD Vance's half brother. All of this from headline in
the first page of the article. He's mentioned it three times.

(10:12):
Goes on to show, yeah, he did finish a distance
second in the primary, thirteen percent of the vote to
pro Ball's eighty three fine apparently very limited spending so
far this year. That's the current status of the race.
There's been no television or radio ads. They point out,
Purval has outraised Corey Bowman, reporting that pur of Ball's
got one hundred and twenty seven grand, Bowman twenty three grand.

(10:32):
But that's a painfully low number for even per Ball
last time he got four hundred and thirty one thousand
back in twenty one by this point in the race,
So a lot less money, a lot less enthusiasm. And
it's noted by one political commentator observer that well, with
the voter turnout as low as it was for the
primary at ten percent, Bowman's only shot, according to the

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political analysis, is if there is a low voter turnout,
voter turnout and a really healthy number of voters that
well normally would sit on their hands and not vote.
You independent minded folks, you people believe the Democratic Party
has left you. You Democrats have believe have to have.
Provoll hasn't represented your interests and all the other conservative

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leaning folks out there who have given up on voting
in Democrat in elections in cities of Cincinnati because well
they it's the uphill battle that's referred to in the article.
Don't give up on that. Mean Provoll is not It
does not have an engaged base. It seems just look

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to the money and Bowman's Another component of this article
and I believe it's an accurate assessment. The enquirre noted
that all of the people that show out of these
issue up at the Bowman rallies, or a lot of
them anyway, or outside of the city of Cincinnati. Of course,
he enjoys a lot of support out there among them
or seeing conservative masses, so that's wonderful. And folks outside

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of the city that can't vote in the election can
certainly support his campaign, put a yard sign in or
hand him some money. More fundamentally, but we need the votes.
And as much as you might love Corey Bowman outside
of the city of Cincinnati, of people within the city
of Cincinnati, the ones that are obviously going to be
terming this so and then you know they mentioned the

(12:26):
lower turnout. The political analyst over at the Vizavier University
of Professor Marianni. He's a political science expert. If people
don't show up, you don't need as many votes. It's
the longest of long shots. Not a great assessment for
Corey Bowman from presser Professor Marianni, but a little glimmer
of pope if you show up. And of course the

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article concludes with one more reference, but Bowman's family. But
it's Bowman's family that has drawn much of the attention.
His half brother is Vice president JD.

Speaker 5 (12:58):
Van.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
So if you didn't get the memo as you're reading
through Scott Wortman's article about this, guess what Corey Bowman is.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
JD.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Van's's half brother. Beat that dead horse over and over
and over and over, Scott, appreciate it five eighteen right now,
Galaxy floor and this stuff is absolutely beautiful. But check
out your concrete service. Love hearing from you. If feel
pretty to call chime in like cribbage Mike did five one, three, seven,

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two three, talk pound five fifty on eight and t funds.
Even though I got I beat you at cribbage during
listener lunch last last week there, Mike, I didn't even
mention to my listeners. I was so happy I beat you.
I just forgot to say it out loud. Anyway.

Speaker 6 (13:39):
Well, when it's for a team, Brian, there's no reason
to bring it up.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
Ah.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
Yeah, Well, the the win loss of the ratio is
kind of really has been leaning in my favor of late,
although you're still far and away the winner over all.
Since we've been playing cravage an it was great senior
at lunch, Mike, I hope you had as good a
time as I did.

Speaker 6 (13:57):
And ah, a good time was said by all. Absolutely
that was fabulous. And listening to Cory and and Christopher,
you know, just was the cherry on top.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Yeah, and I thought they both did a wonderful job.
And the next one for folks that want to show
up at Nextlisser Ludge High Green Brewery, brent Wood location,
that's November fifth, Mike, you're gonna.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
Be able to make that one out there, yes, sir, good, all.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
Right, what's on your mind? You didn't call in to
talk about me or let me float?

Speaker 7 (14:22):
Well?

Speaker 6 (14:22):
Before I get to my point, I couldn't help to tag,
you know, with the half brother Hope comment that they're
driving down our throats, so uh, half Tab like they
normally do. And I'm sure there were some Republican candidates
outside the Board of Elections there Norwood, but of course
they let alf Tab surrounded by his minions. But the
first the only thing that the little audio clip they

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had was that he's going to defeat the MAGA movement.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (14:47):
Now, when have you ever heard Corey Bowman Christopher Smitheman.
Any of them mentioned Maga I.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Know, and Joe Nacker sent me a campaign ad for
Provoll and it was a picture of JD Vans and
Trump Maga versus I don't know, the Unity Group or
whatever the hell I have that pro Ball is calling himself.
And so Joe suggested that that was a sign that
they're getting worried over in the Provoll camp. I don't know,
but it has become in this at least they're waging

(15:13):
the Maga versus Provoll messaging. So whatever, it's obviously a lie.
It's designed well when you got.

Speaker 6 (15:20):
Nothing else to run on, you know, maybe gin up
your base by that, you know. And I'm sure you're
going to mention the Fountain Square shooting yesterday, so maybe
there were no red bikes around, so hopefully we don't
have to inconvenience to But what I did want to
mention that is that I was so disgusted with the
capital d of the news coverage in Manhattan and around

(15:41):
the world for the pro Hamas demonstrations on the second
anniversary of the Israeli massacre. You know, these useful idiots.
I think they should be strapped into chairs in an
imax theater, so they can be surrounded and shown the
raw footage of what occurred that day, the heading, the murder,

(16:02):
the abduction mister Levin was on yesterday and just and
I'll just take his numbers for it, but it kind
of makes sense. Comparative numbers of the size of our
country to Israel would be two hundred and fifty thousand
Americans killed and forty thousand taken hostage. Now we're just
going to sit back with that type of numbers and

(16:24):
with the atrocities that took place that day. And then
these people got the nerve on the integration and granted
First Amendment, do what you want to do, but evil
does not reside in Jerusalem, the White House or in
ice detention centers. Well, you know, there is pure evils
in this world and we're seeing it unleashed every single day.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
Yeah, and so your point about striving it down in
an imax theater, making them watch that, And something tells
me quite a few of them in the crowd would
look at that and say, the fulfillment of my dreams.

Speaker 6 (16:54):
This is on a one off and wanting to wipe
that country off the face.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Of the earth.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
Yeah, Yeah, it's a great point, Mike. It is really
a great point. But I don't know what to say
about it. Man, I just don't get that the idea
resonates largely. You have crazy people that absolutely hate Jews
period in the story. They want to abolish and eradicate
Israel from the river to the sea. They just hate them,

(17:20):
and that hatred's never going to go away. But is
that hatred shared among the vast majority of people in
the world or even in the United States of America.
I can only pray that they represent a very slim minority.
They're loud, the squeaky wheel gets the grease. They project
size and strength because they're great at organizing, and they
stay on their crazy message. That doesn't mean they're actually strong,

(17:43):
and it doesn't mean they actually carry the way to
popular opinion. So I'm hanging my hat of optimism on
that hope good here in front of Mike. Thanks for
your service for our country, my submarine or friend. I'll
look forward to lunch Brentwood or High Grains Brentwood Location
five thirty Wednesday, Big picture with Jack added at seven
oh five. Tom's on a line five and three eight

(18:05):
two three talk real quick here though, because we talked
about it briefly there. Tom hold On, two people are
now in custody. Shooting near Fountain Square Great Long East
sixth Street Walnut Street happened yesterday in downtown yesterday afternoon
in the daytime. It was bright outside court. To police,
one person was shot and left with non life threatening injuries.

(18:27):
Police said the victim was uncooperative with officers and Fox
nineteen reporting Ken Korber Fop President. I think there's an
extra letter in there. It's Cober, not Korber. Joe expressed
shock that they got it that close. Ken Cover said
there was some kind of altercation. There were two people

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who apparently both armed with guns, who shot each other
to it. Altersrested and connection with the incident in charge
with felonious assault. That's all the reporting we've got, although
it is on video widely circulated by mayor ol candidate
Corey Bowman, who really is not connected with the vice president. Tom,

(19:09):
thanks for calling this morning, Welcome to the program.

Speaker 8 (19:12):
That shooting is just a figment of your imagination.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
It didn't really happened.

Speaker 8 (19:17):
Crime is crime is down in Cincinnati. Haven't you been
listening to our illustrious mayor.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
It was all artificial intelligence. The video was whole cloth.

Speaker 8 (19:24):
Creation, right, I don't know what are you guys are
going on?

Speaker 3 (19:29):
And the bullet the bullet wounds also de fake. You're
not injured. Walk it off right, right, rub some dirt
on it, ight.

Speaker 8 (19:36):
That's why that that's why the alleged victim is is
not cooperating, right, because he might he might be uh
if he even votes at all, he might be voting
from the mayor for UH for AFTA. So anyway, Yeah,
the reason I called is uh. I heard somebody say yesterday,

(19:58):
I guess, adding on to my comm man about if
I see a D next to your name and you're
running for office, I kind of I believe you're not
gonna do what needs to be done. You're not gonna
take care of take care of business the way it
needs to be. And the comment in response to that
was our stood for a return to the past. Well,
you know what, some things we need to return to.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
The past, like classical classical education.

Speaker 8 (20:24):
Yeah, yeah, Like like enforcing the law the way it
should be, you know, stuff like that, like it you
commit crime and after the year oh, I don't know,
fifteenth or twenty at time committing the same crime. You know,
maybe maybe we should have put you in jail sooner.
Maybe we should stop letting people out on no bail

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or whatever whatever these ridiculous rules are, these things these
activist judges come up with, I understand, trying to help
people out and giving them a second chance, second, maybe third. Okay,
that's that's one or two chances. That's not eighteen or
I mean, I read a story the other day. Some

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guy had ninety one felony.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
That's hilarious. I am staring at that article. Joy McAllister.
McAllister intoxicated when he ran a lead light, red light
and the stolen car killing Elizabeth Flat sixty. He had
ninety one priors ninety one.

Speaker 8 (21:25):
That's insane, and that's okay. There are people that think
that that's all right.

Speaker 5 (21:32):
Come on now, you.

Speaker 8 (21:33):
Really don't believe that you want this system the way
the left has it because you want to be able
to get away with whatever you're trying to get away with.
I mean, let's be honest with ourselves, folks. If we
all lived our lives the way the Democrats want the
government to run, it would be mass chaos, mass hysteria,

(21:55):
everybody killing everybody the wild West. That scene at the
corner of sixth and Walnut would be on virtually every corner.
Come on, we really don't want that. That's you can't
be serious people. And then to pivot real quick to
the whole Trump blowing up drug dealers. Now I'm not
okay with that, uh am. I okay with drug dealers

(22:17):
getting blown up, well sure, but I'm not okay with
the President of the United States authorizing and outside of
our of our jurisdiction. So put it on paper, let's
get it written and law, and then you follow the law.
I mean that that's what makes us human beings.

Speaker 6 (22:32):
And not animals.

Speaker 8 (22:33):
If we have a code of law that we have
written down, we all have to follow it. And if
we're gonna stand there and tell everybody, hey, you guys,
aren't you guys aren't law in order. We're trying to
be following the rule, Well then you gotta follow it.
You gotta do it. You gotta give show the example
that you're gonna restrain yourself and you're gonna keep yourself
within the boundaries of the law, because if you're not,

(22:54):
then you're no better than anybody else. And I don't
want to say that about a Republican or somebody who
I'm mostly rooting for, but it's it's just wrong to
do that. Yeah, it's not it's not okay, it's outside
the law. But you know, as I've said before and
many others, don't vote Rhino and don't vote Democrat. There's

(23:14):
your solution. A great day.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
I appreciate that. Yeah, at minimum, and we may argue
all day long about whether there is such a thing
under our constitution called an authorization for use of military force,
but at least that has the stripe of congressional approval.
I think, at minimum, get an authorization for use of
military force to go against the cartels and see if

(23:37):
that stands up to the test of perhaps a legal challenge.
But at least it wouldn't be the unilateral action of
a lone man wielding the power of the American military
at will and without any checks and balance. It's five
thirty six right now, if you have K the talk station,
plumb time plumbing, it's always plumbing done right. If I
K the talk station five forty one, Happy Wednesday. Oh look,

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stack is stupid and right now, no phone calls, take
phone calls. It's been a while since we did a
stack is stupid. I enjoyed the conversation. I do enjoy
doing a stack of stupid in five o'clock hours A
good time to do it, to help wake up and well,
thank God that you're not in it. Joe Strecker is
not in the stack of stupid, never been there. Neither
of I. But then again, as editorial director of the

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fifty five Carrese Morning show, that probably wouldn't read his
story about myself. No, actually I would anyway. A police
officer and his businessman businesswoman wife dad after a heat stroke,
they got into an overheated hot tub while drunk and
high on cocaine, celebrating their four year old daughter's birthday,

(24:42):
No question about it. This is in Brazil. Military cop
Jefferson Louis Tagaz thirty seven and his mail salon owning
partner Anna Carolina Silva, forty one, found dead in a
motel in Brazilian state of Santa Catarina in the earlier
part of August. A couple spent the day celebrating their
daughters birthday, drinking alcohol and doing lines of cocaine, then

(25:03):
went to a nightclub and then checked into the Dallas
motel about midnight. When they failed to pick up their daughter.
The next day, relatives were a little alarmed. They reported
the para missing and their bodies were found in the
motel bathtub. Authority's ruled heat stroke caused death, but that
the cocaine and alcohol in their blood probably dulled their
reactions because they do the severe heat water in the

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bathtub one hundred and twenty two degrees fahrenheit. A space
heater in the room also turned up to high according
to investigators. Chief medical Ezambers said the cause of both
this was exogenous poisoning, favoring the process of heat stroke
with intense dehydration, thermal collapse culminating in organ failure and death.

Speaker 5 (25:43):
Idiots doing idiot things because they're idiots.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
According to doctor Fernando Olivera de Franseeka, speaking with the paper,
the use of cocaine, which indoses alone could cause torpor
drowsiness even in an individual, combined with alcohol, which also
causes in high such as torpor coma and drowsiness. Torpor
apparently a state of physical dormancy similar to hibernation, where

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the body's metabolic rate slows considerably. Further examination of the
hotel room, the couple's car security cameras carried out forensic
or forensic reports were able to rule out carbon monoxide, drowning,
electric shock, as well as anybody else being involved in
the deaths, pointing to cocaine, alcohol, and ridiculously hot hot tub.

(26:33):
It's rather strange. You got a four year old, see
your leaver her apparently with relatives, and you go out
and do drugs and alcohol. Well, dry alcohol is a drug.
Go out and do drugs with your partner.

Speaker 7 (26:45):
You moron.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
Doesn't make any sense to me. Then again, I consider
myself slightly more traditional. Nashville, Tennessee. A skydiving instructor now
dead after falling from a plane without a parachute.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
Screws all the time, the world's in I perfect place.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
Indeed, just Tracker or Metro. Nashville Police SA A thirty
five year old Justin Robert Fuller and a forty six
year old sky having student got stuck on the side
of the plane in a tandem rig. The late Fuller
then became separated from the student and fell from the
sky sans parachute. Student's emergency parachute deployed and he got

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lodged in a tree in a wooded area. Police found
the forty six year old student and he was safely rescued. Fuller, however,
found dead later the same day in a wooded area.
FAA is leading this investigation. Jeez, I guess what the hell.
I had a neighbor of mine who was in a
late high school maybe early college age. He's it is solo.

(27:45):
His first jump, the main choot didn't open, got tangled up,
and I think about that. I think first time out.
This is going back a long time. I guess they
used to let people deploy by themselves back then. I
think you have to do the tandem thing first. But
what I know, I would never do it. But that
would be a short soiling moment in time on my

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first jump if the main shoot got tangled up and
I had to rely on the back of five forty
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(28:27):
on the shutdown and what is the status of the
Epstein file vote. Haven't been hearing about that much lately.
We'll find out from Congressman Massy and then Judge Enmen
of Paul Atano coming up at eight thirty. Let's see here.
Back to the stupid stack, we go to Florida firefighter
accused of stalking after she allegedly dumped seventy five and,

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according to the police report, quote possibly used close quote
tampons under her ex boyfriends lawn after she learned he
was dating a new woman. Do what coupled with just
walk away? Felosa County Sheriff's office was contacted by a
woman September thirtieth after she and her boyfriend woke up
finding a pile of tampons on the front lawn that

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were quote stained red as if they were possibly used
to close quote. Security camera footage they've got that showed
a pickup truck driving past the house ten PM in
late September. Woman allegedly sat in the truck bed until
the traffic cleared, at which point she jumped out and
threw the aforem engined seventy five tampons in the front yard.
The couple asked why they believed who they believe was

(29:32):
behind the crime. They said, well, Gabrielle Franz, she's a
firefighter with the Orange County Fire Rescue and the ex
girlfriend of the guy living in the home. They said
it was likely her quote demonstrating she was unhappy close
quote that the ex boyfriend was now dating somebody else.
They claimed she previously made multiple social media ploths talking
badly about them, and the fact that they are together

(29:54):
now just didn't you have anything better to do with
your life anyway? That's the weather in the stack is stupid.
Thank you, Joe. See a Jay's got this morning. Jay,
Happy Wednesday, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 4 (30:13):
Hey, happy eighth day of independence from federal government. Brian,
I ran the math for you this morning, and we
are up to thirty seven billion dollars of discretionary spending
being saved. And again the way I've come up with
that number, everybody's free to check my math. Take one

(30:33):
point seven trillion, that's the annual discretionary spending. Divide that
by three hundred and sixty five, then multiply that by
how many days, like times eight, and you come up
with that thirty seven billion.

Speaker 8 (30:46):
I heard Mike Johnson.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
I think it was him yesterday, whining about the Democrats
have to end this shutdown, to end the suffering of
the American people.

Speaker 8 (30:56):
And I.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
Wanted to call and just check on you, my brother,
to say if you're how you're weathering the storm with
this government shut down, and.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
You hear me laughing, are you doing okay?

Speaker 3 (31:08):
I'll just find over the Thomas household. I have my life.

Speaker 7 (31:14):
He looks a car off or is he acting? Is
he off today?

Speaker 6 (31:17):
No?

Speaker 3 (31:18):
Yeah, I've been. I pulled around the corner of the
parking garage every single day before I see his parking space.
I have this little little hint of worry that I'm
gonna come around the corner and his car is not
going to be there, at which point I will freak out.
Unless he's told me ahead of the time, he's not
gonna be a bit. No, it was there, parked in
the exact same spot, in the exact same position, and
I'm staring at the top of his melon through my
video screen. He looks like he's in perfectly good health

(31:40):
and in good order.

Speaker 7 (31:42):
I don't I don't understand that at all.

Speaker 4 (31:43):
I don't know how you guys just whether this this
this withering attack and that you know, this suffering is
going on, but yeah, there's no suffering. And that's what
I want everybody to to realize is this government. These
full time jobs don't need to be full time job.
The people that want them to be full time jobs
are in those full time jobs. And to Tom's point,

(32:05):
you know some things, it would be nice if we
can go back. Let's go back to the debate on Obamacare.
When it first came around and we first had a
chance to get rid of it, the discussion was how
do we repeal it? And then later on it was, well,
how you know we're going to pass the Republican this
is another Republican victory. Then it changed to not just

(32:27):
repeal it, it was repeal and replace. And now we
can't even have done that. Now we can't do anything
but continue to fund more of it and hand more
of the healthcare over to the Republican Or did the
Democrats to the federal government and give them just a
larger and larger and larger share of the means of
production in this case healthcare.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
Right, And they want this as a mechanism to get
one size fits all, basically Medicaid for all. It's been
but they're practically on records saying exactly that. That was
the point of waving the premiums. If you make something
look free when it truly isn't. But if you make
it look free, you're going to increase the number of
people on the ranks. And so then they doubled it
with the COVID nineteen emergency as a pretext. That's what

(33:09):
gave you gave rise to the premium waivers. It doubled
the rolls on the on the Obamacare exchange and all
those people. Yeah, and they want them.

Speaker 4 (33:18):
To day everything they do, Convince Everett Ellison, everything they
do looks like it sounds like it is.

Speaker 7 (33:28):
Few slaves.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
Get back on your get back on the plantation. You
give us all of your power, all of your authority.
Forget about what the constitution says, these aren't God given rights,
and we'll take care of you if you're good slaves.
And that's the difference again. I want to keep making
that point between a liberal and a conservative, or to
your point, a libertarian. A libertarian conservative would say, I

(33:55):
don't want I'm not going to be a slave. I'm
a citizen. You work for me, I don't work for you,
not a slave. I'm a citizen and I want minimal
amount of you in my life. I'll make my own choices.
I can take the two hours and call convercency. I
can have that conversation and very quickly I can figure
out that there are many options better than Obamacare and

(34:17):
have somebody put it there in black and white in
front of me. Or I can sit there and watch
TV and do nothing and wait for somebody to take
care of me, because I'll be a slave. And that's
what it comes down to. So whatever you do, don't
vote Democrat and don't vote Rhino.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
There you have it. Then the Rhinos are the ones
that will capitulate. And they've already been talking about a
one year extension on the premium waivers. That's a step
in the wrong direction. I say, hold fast in your position.
You're in the right position. Thanks very much, Jay, Always,
I appreciate hearing from you. Stick around. We've got more
to talk about in the six o'clock hour, and I
love hearing from you, whoever you are. I want three seven, four,
nine fifty five hundred, eight hundred and eight two three

(34:54):
talk stick around today.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
It's tough headlines coming up at the top of the
hour changes every minute.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
Fifty five krz. The talk station.

Speaker 5 (35:05):
Chicago is a hell hall right now, Free tealthcare, the
illegal aliens listen here.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
Gotland is on fire, no everything.

Speaker 7 (35:12):
You never know what's going to happen.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
Fifty five krz the talk station, It's six six to
five KRCD talk station. Happy Wednesday by Thomas looking forward
to seven o'clock hour, Fast forward one hour for the
Big Picture with Jack added an interesting uh subject matter
for his commentary today the Communist NFL can't wait to

(35:35):
hear Jack's words on that, and filed by Donald and
Neil from Americans for Prosperity launching a new campaign Make
Government Work. There's a lot of comedy built into that, Donovan.
I just have to point that out ahead of time. Anyway,
it sounds like an uphill challenge as up for the
challeng Congressman Miss Matthew Fast eight oh five talk about
shutdown and the mystery of where in the hell is

(35:57):
the conversation on Epstein the Epstein's files vote, We'll go
over with the congress Nassy. I just find it rather well.
It's not surprising that that sort of disappeared from mainstream media.
Reporting or any reporting on that. And here's Brian Thomas
wondering what the hell's wrong with the Trump administration and
why they continue to want to hide these files after
saying and telling us and campaigning on the fact that
they'd be released. A little bit of a letdown on

(36:18):
that one. I think I share Congressman Nassy's concerns and that,
and that's why I'm hoping he moves forward with a vote,
an opportunity that Democrats had for four years under the
Biden administration, which they didn't exercise. Judge Ennita Politano at
eight thirty when presidents kill. Of course, that will be
about the launching of missile strikes against cartels, and we'll

(36:41):
also talk about this new Justice Department of opinion from
the Office of Legal Counsel, which tells the Trump administration
that he has the authority, based upon the imminent threat
that they pose, he has the authority to launch military
operations against them. I am extraordinarily troubled by that. Going

(37:04):
back to the point, at least at minimum, and I
would argue that authorizations for use of military force are
not quite a declaration of war and not within the Constitution.
But at minimum and authorization for use of military force
should be required when we're using military force, some checks
and balances. I just envision a new administration, perhaps under
the Democrat side of the equation, And are you going

(37:26):
to be comfortable with them picking and choosing what represents
an eminent threat? How do you define that anyway? I mean,
you can look up the definition of eminine. But I
puzzle over how a tiny boat, eleven foot boat, fifteen
foot boat, twenty foot boat, let's say, a fifty foot
boat going ten to fifteen knots max. In miles thousands

(37:48):
of miles away, how that could in any way, shape
or form, constitute an imminent threat. And they're also talking
about starting to launch strikes in Venezuela in side the country. Hey, listen,
and Trump is not the only one who have done this.
Obama did it, the Bush, Bush did it. Trump did

(38:09):
in his first administration. Biden launched these unilateral missile strikes.
It's unchecked military power in the hands of one person.
That is not what I read in my constitution five one, three, seven,
four nine, fifty five hundred, eight hundred eight two three ten,
five fifty on eight and t phones. Yes, the National
Guard has deployed two hundred troops Texas National Guard. Two

(38:31):
hundred them arrived in Illinois Chicago over the objections of
of course the mayor and the governor shout up in
Illinois yesterday to protect federal personnel and property. It's a
good point to emphasize why are they there. They're not
there enforcing local laws. How the police department is not
even enforcing local laws. It is battery. It is a

(38:53):
state crime to beat up a federal officer. No, it's
a federal crime as well. But they do an obligation
to people in their juryis diction. Do prosecute them, arrest
them for breaking the law. Don't look for help from
the Chicago police department under the current governor and mayor
there anyway. Pentagon officials said the guardsmen were motialized for
a sixty day period, of course, subject to legal challenges

(39:15):
which are inevitable. They said, the troops arrived in Illinois
in support of Federal Protection Mission initial cap on that
to protect federal functions, personnel, and property, very limited in scope.
They have the right to do that. Department of Homeland
Security Secretary Christie no announced over the weekend that additional
special operations personnel would in fact be deployed to Illinois

(39:37):
in spite of the fact that the lawsuit in Portland
didn't go on the side of the federal government. Brandon Johnson,
the mayor of Chicago, said yesterday he believes the deployment
is illegal, unconstitutional, dangerous, and wrong. Of course, we had
the declaration on Monday from the mayor declaring ice free zones,
which prohibit federal immigration agents from using city owned proper

(40:00):
for immigration enforcement operations. That just throws a logistical hurdle
in their direction. You can't park on city property. Whether
or not that's enforceable or lawful remains to be seen,
and that, of course is going to have to be
worked out in the court system as well. Johnson in
a news conference earlier this week, the Trump administration must
end the war on Chicago.

Speaker 5 (40:22):
Is that what this is.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
The trouble administration must end this war against Americans. That's
what this is. The trumble administration must end its attempt
to dismantle our democracy. You can't get a statement from
a Democrat that doesn't include that one anymore. How is
this a threat of democracy?

Speaker 2 (40:39):
Remember who they're.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
Going after and pivot over to Los Angeles. Lots of
objections to the federal government going in and arresting illegal immigrants,
the criminal element among them. Bad. We can't have that here.
That is ver Boden. We didn't ask for your presence here.
Get the hell out. Oh but what about this one.

(41:00):
I suppose it just depends on what type of operation
they are working on, whether or not local law enforcement
will work with the Feds, And in fact they do.
Just announce federal and local law enforcement officers in Los
Angeles arrested fourteen suspected leaders of the Rancho San Pedro gang.
There's one of those. Just yesterday happened in Los Angeles.

(41:23):
This is following a year's long investigation in what the
FBI called one of the most violent street crews in
southern California, as well as being a known arm of
the Mexican mafia Cash Bettel. The era of cartels operating
freely in America is over. Every day the FBI and
our partners in this case, local law enforcement LAPD are

(41:48):
dismantling violent networks at the source, stripping their resources, taking
criminals off the street, and saving American lives. Not the
emphasis I choose occasionally if you're living in LA Do
you want the show San Pedro gang engaging in criminal
activity in your backyard? Of course you don't. You want

(42:08):
the Los Angeles Police Department and any other law enforcement
agency to round them up and prosecuting for their crimes.
That seems logical and reasonable, investigators said, the PROB uncovered
links between the Rancho San Pedro and the Sineloa Cartel,
as well as something called the Thirteenth Street Gang, which
our groups is described in the reporting, which worked together

(42:30):
to distribute methamphetamine, fentanyl, and heroin all around southern California,
and of course all the criminal activity, including yes, murders
that go along with that. They said. The takedown hit
a gang that has five hundred members approximately across six
cliques that they say, pay in their word, taxes to
Mexican mafia bosses. So what does this sound like a

(42:52):
coordinated activity involving committing crimes?

Speaker 5 (42:57):
Huh?

Speaker 3 (43:00):
Just please, Chief Jim McDonald, praise the Harbor Division detectives
for building a case step by step look and working
with the federal authorities to attack these dangerous gangs. And
here it is lo and behold the federal complaint charges
thirty defendants under RICO racketeer influence corrupt organizations. And I've

(43:20):
been claiming this and pointing this out for a long
long time. A couple of people or more working together
in concert to commit court law of violating the law.
That's rico. It's called organized crime. And a lot of
organizations out there may be staring at RICO case in
the face, like for example, Antifa and those huge, multi

(43:42):
billionaire funded organizations that fuel and perhaps will find out
when the investigation's over and maybe some indictments are handed
down coordinate criminal activity on the streets of our country.
So you got a RICO charge against this. Acting US
Attorney Bill Asali in a statement, the case shows the
power of partnerships. California Attorney General Robin Bonta said the

(44:09):
raids took illegal weapons and dangerous drugs off the streets.
So local law enforcement, working hand in hand with federal
law enforcement, were successful in bringing federal charges against an
extraordinarily dangerous gang. And isn't that really boiled down kind
of what ICE agents are doing. Every day we read
of arrest involving gang members who are in our country illegally,

(44:33):
gang members with criminal records, gang members who are continuing
to distribute fentanyl and other drugs, and of course wiel
threats of violence in various neighborhoods across this country. And
there they are in the streets protesting that kind of
law enforcement, law enforcement that gets bad people off the

(44:54):
streets and improves the quality of neighborhoods. Is this a
war on Chicago or are they waging a war against
those who are literally waging a war on Chicago. I'm
gonna go with the latter. Five one three, seven, eight
two three talk. Feel free to call and chime in
more to talk about beyond the phone calls and another

(45:14):
word five one three, seven fifty five hundred eighty two
to three talk found five fifty on eighth and G phones.
After you said people were people were better at critical thinking,
they could see through the some of the nonsense, and
maybe people do. I still stay in Chicago on this one.
You got Governor Pritzker. Earlier this week. Pritzker said there's been,

(45:35):
in his words, unconstitutional invasion of Illinois by the federal
government for weeks now. Donald Trump, Christine nom and Gregory
Bovino have brought their militarized CBP and ICE agents to
the streets of Chicago to cause violence and chaos in
the city. Oh, is that what they're doing. That's what
it's all about.

Speaker 5 (45:57):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
Countering that message, referring to Pritzker's comments as a schmorgasboard
of lies, they issued a retort on that. So here's
further to Pritzker's statements. President Trump has the authority nder

(46:19):
the Constitution to devoid troops wherever they're stationed to defend
the federal facilities from attacks. That's what the DHS said
in response to Pritzker's first claim on the list, whether
it's the ice facility in Broadview or the courthouse in Portland,
we will defend federal property wherever they're under siege. Pritsker
in his appearance on CNN on Monday. People are getting detained,

(46:40):
they're getting arrested US citizens. They did this when they
raided the building in the middle of the night on
the South Shore, one hundred and thirty people. They were
emptied out of this building. They were going after a
few gang members, and instead they broke windows, they broke
down doors, and they ransacked the place. They're the ones
that are making it a war zone. I butli believe
it is because they were resisting and if your whole
up at a building, law enforcement tends to do stuff

(47:02):
like that. But DHS, in response to that nonsense, said,
the following law enforcement conducted a targeted operation at an
apartment building in South Shore Community, Chicago. Fair enough, this operation,
conducted by the CBPFBI and the ATF, resulted in the
arrest of thirty seven illegal aliens from countries like Venezuela, Mexico, Columbia, Nigeria,

(47:24):
among them Trey the Aragua gang members and violent criminals,
the ones that they were initially going after. DHS has
routinely debunked the absurd claim that the DHS is targeting
US citizens during ICE operations. ICE does not arrest or
deport US citizens. Really, what about all the reports of

(47:45):
US citizens being arrested. Here's the follow up point to
that any US citizen arrested. Citizens arrested are because of
obstructing or assaulting law enforcement. What's going on, protests are
going on, they kind to obstruct an interfere with the
FEDS doing the business of rounding up gang members and
criminals among the illegal immigrant community. That's what they're doing.

(48:11):
So if you interfere, you're gonna get arrested. Oh my god,
a US citizen's getting caught up in the ice raids.
They're going after US citizens. Well, you got to look
beyond the veneer of that blanket statement to see why
they were arrested in the first place. Illinois Governor earlier
this week, on September twelfth, I shot and killed a
man of Franklin, part, a nearby suburb of Chicago. His

(48:32):
name was Silverio. The Legas Gonzalez reports say that he
just had dropped off his kids at a daycare and
was headed to work. That's Governor Pritzker's take on it.
DHS countered Gonzales was an illegal alien who, when law
enforcement ordered him to stop his car, instead drove his
car at the officers. One of the ice officers was

(48:53):
hit by the car and dragged a significant distance. Fearing
for his own life in the broader public safety, the
officer fired as well, and despite his injuries, the officer
and his partner immediately started administering emergency medical care to
the illegal alien, who was pronounced dead. The Legas Gonzalez,
who was the target of the operation, was a criminal, criminal,
illegal alien with the history of reckless driving and further

(49:15):
reckless driving as illustrated by the fact that he drove
directly at officers, resulting in them needing to defend themselves.
See but if you just live in an echo chamber,
you listen only what Governor Pritzker is saying, you think
that the world has fallen apart. There's a counter narrative.
Factor it into the equation before drawing your conclusion. Six

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twenty five fifty five KRS DE Talk station Local stories
coming up six point thirty at fifty five KRC the
talk station. Dust off your skull ring CD and play
a little iggy pop there and launch into some local stories.
Phone calls are welcome here in the fifty five KRC

(50:00):
morning show, but in the absence there, oh, we'll go
to the local stories we do at the bottom of
the hour. Two people in custody after yet another shooting YEP.
Yesterday sixth Street in Walnut Street in the afternoon during daylight.
One person was shot and left with non life threatening injuries.
Police said the victim uncooperative with officers. Although they spelled

(50:21):
his name wrong, we all knew who FOP President Ken
Cober is. He said there was some kind of altercation.
Two people, both armed with guns, shot at each other.
Adults have been arrested. Two adults have been arrested in
connection with the incident, in charge with felonious assault. Nothing
to see here, Interestingly enough, it's all captured on video.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
We go.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
I've got a woman dead in a suspect arrested for
murder since a police said Rachel Counts, twenty three years old,
found shot after police say officers responded to King's Run
Court in Winton Hills on Sunday around quarter to ten
pm or quarter to eleven pm. Counts died at the
scene life saving measures. Police announced earlier this week, twenty
three year old Omarion Horne has been arrested in charge

(51:07):
with murdering accounts. Homicide Unit is still investigating. They do
need your help with the investigation. Anybody with information contact
the Homicide Unit three five two thirty five forty two
or I think I always can default with crime Stoppers
at three five to two thirty forty help them solve
that crime. This is a sad one we got. A

(51:29):
molar high school student has died after being hospitalized after
a hit and run crash that happened over the weekend.
According to a family member, fifteen year old Dylan Strahan
passed away. According the announcement from the family, Dylan was
and always will be the most strongest and kindest and
selfless human out there. And he was, and he was
and still will do amazing things for this world. As

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we as a family with multiple struggles throughout life, genuinely
appreciate the way the community came together to support us.
Thank you as the least I can say to everyone
who has supported us. Can you imagine being a parent
in that situation? A courting About one pm on Sunday,
Corn Police were called to the area of Coal Rain
Road and Day Road who reported accident. Officers arrived at

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the scene to find the teen unconscious but breathing. The
teen appeared to be riding a bike when he was
hit by a vehicle. Corn Township Department of Fire and
Ems took the fifteen year old to UC Medical Center.
A township spokesperson said the teen had life threatening injuries
clearly ten pm Sunday, almost twenty four hours after the
teen was hit, the vehicle that crashed into him was found.

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Driver of the vehicle identified, but the township spokesperson did
not release the name. Yet no other information has been
released corner the spokesperson were conducting a thorough investigation into
all factors that may have contributed to this awful accident.
Prayers with the family during this extremely difficult time. If
you have any information, Coal Rain Police would love to
hear from you on that five one, three, three two
one twenty six seventy seven Coal Rain Police. And of

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course there is a go fundme page if you want
to support the family on that. Well, it's coming our
way and it's going to bring about a lot of chaos. Finally,
here after how many presidents campaigned to build or redo
the Brent spenz Bridge, O DOT told council that the
construction of the three point six billion dollar Brandspenz Bridge

(53:16):
Quarto projects is going to begin in early twenty twenty six.
The day has finally come, O DOT and sincinn Department
of Transportation and Engineering gave council members a new timeline.
O DOT to Tommy Ardold said, it's honestly a very
rare thing in the nation. There aren't many double decker
bridges around. There aren't that many cable bridges. Although it's

(53:36):
kind of state of the art bridge design, and so
it's going to be exciting thing to see when we
ultimately see it. They said. The work schedule is being
developed now. The schedule is being developed now interesting. I'll
give props to Mike Show reporting Fox nineteen. The bridge
design will be sixty percent complete by this fall. They

(53:58):
haven't even completed the design they're supposed to. Okay, anyway,
Arnold said, it's going to be interesting to get the
work going, lots of changes. Is going to be just
a heapload of cranes down there. I get a kick
out of this. Not everyone on board with a three
point six billion dollar project, one single loan Hamilin County resident.

(54:19):
They found a guy named Bob Hyland who doesn't like
the idea. We have air pollution in the city of
Cincinnati that is very damaging to human health, especially for
the black and brown folks who live in the West
End in Queen's Gate. Hey, Joe, doesn't Corey Bowman live
in the West End? Yeah? Uh, he's a white guy,
isn't he. Oh the air pollution doesn't affect him.

Speaker 5 (54:41):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (54:43):
I didn't know that, Hm. Is he like a bubble boy? Anyway?
He went on to say so, the Department of Transportation
doubling down on highway lane miles is going to further
the amount of pollution in those communities. Breathe deep the
air it flows from the atmosphere around China or La.

(55:05):
This is an opportunity to provide feedback on design and
progress of the bridge. It's reported oh DOT will answer
questions on October twenty first and October twenty third at
Longworth Hall. So if you have any questions, show up
and make your voice heard. Six thirty five right now.
Should make your voice heard right here in the morning
showfield at six forty right now. If you five k

(55:29):
CD talk station, have a Wednesday, maybe nobody wants to
talk to me today. If you do five one, three, seven, four,
nine fifty five hundred, eight hundred eighty two to three talk. Uh,
you know it's just last week. I'm you were told
it was coming Officer Management Budget Director along with Donald Trump.

(55:49):
We're talking about layoffs. Carolyn levi Att, the White House
Press Secretary, came out and said layoffs were eminent, pointing
out that well, because the Democrats shut down the government,
the President has directed the Cabinet, the Office Management Budget
and Working with agencies across the board to identify where
cuts can be made, and we believe that layoffs are eminent.
So there you were told about that just recently and
yesterday during a press conference, which was really comical, Donald

(56:14):
Trump with the Canadian Prime Minister and they're talking about
tariffs and all the report I just heard it on
the radio. All the reporters just scream and questions all
over the top of each other, at the top of
their lungs. Trump takes every opportunity to just.

Speaker 2 (56:26):
Go on and on and on and on.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
He rambled off a litany of all his accomplishments. He
went back to the election and talk about the landslide.
He talked about all the economic improvements, the trillions of
dollars have been invested since he took office, just at
every turn, which I kind of found comical. That's not
my sort of style, but that's this is Donald Trump.

(56:49):
So of course, the conversation pivoted over to the impending
firings alluded to by the OMB, and the Press secretary
told reporters, well, if the government shutdown continues, that those
firings will be announced in the next four or five days.

(57:11):
One reporter who was able to get a question out
there that actually Trump hurt. How many permanent jobs are
you talking about eliminating?

Speaker 1 (57:20):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (57:20):
His a response, I'll be able to tell you that
in four or five days. If this keeps going on
the shutdown, it will be substantial and a lot of
those jobs will never come back. You're going to have
a lot closer to a balanced budget. When asked if
he'd identified specific programs or people who wanted to eliminate,
he said, oh, sure, we have a lot. I'm not
going to tell you yet, but we'll be announcing it

(57:42):
pretty soon. But we have a lot of things that
we are going to eliminate and permanently eliminate. Said, you know,
one of the things that we have some advantage, you
could say, but because of the shutdown, which I think
may made a big mistake, we're able to take out
billions and billions of dollars of waste fraud and they've
handed it, you know, to us on a silver platter.

(58:03):
There's a lot of truth built into that. Well, if
I'm a comical, I'm just asking Joe. I couldn't remember
which day, the eighteenth. Apparently there this big Democrat rally.
They're gonna get everybody out there. Of course, I'm sure
the billionaires are going to coordinate an effort pay protesters
to show up. I'm sure there will be a massive
showing of thousands of people demanding that they continue. These
premium discounts. Are basically handing over Obamacare quote unquote for free,

(58:27):
which means you and I are paying for it. Then
one extension of these COVID nineteen relief was what it
was all about, which doesn't exist anymore. But if Trump
announces the firings, and it will be subject to legal challenge,
I will acknowledge that. But if he announces all these
people being fired within four or five days, I'm just

(58:49):
wondering how the Democrats are going to react, because of
course he's beating them to the punch. I mean, to
extent their protest bears any fruit, and it causes some
Republics to perhaps waiver in their refusal to extend these
premium supplements. That's one thing. But if Trump gets out
in front of it and fires these people, perhaps they

(59:10):
will have no ability to come back to work. That'll
knock the Democrats back. I mean, we are talking about
draining the swamp here, so popcorn out. We'll see how
the strategy plays out. I still say the Republicans are
on the winning side. But all of these rumblings about
perhaps some Republicans wavering again. I read an article earlier

(59:31):
this morning suggesting that maybe they are willing to extend
the premium supplements for another year. Democrats not yet interested
in that. They want them permanently extended. But if you
back and you go ahead and extend them for another year,
I'm just wondering what that buys you. Yes, it does.
It buys you another conversation along the exact same lines

(59:53):
next year, and yet another deadline built into legislation fast approaches,
much like the Democrats language extending these supplements only till
the end of this calendar year. They're the ones that
set him up for this. Apparently they thought it was
appropriate to end these when the COVID nineteen threat had
well moved on six forty five, and it has. If

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Speaker 5 (01:00:25):
Ah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
So looking forward to the top of the our news
being over because you get to hear from Jack Atherton.
It's time for the Big Picture with Jack Atherdan today.
I just can't wait for this. The communist NFL Donovd
and Neil from Americans for Prosperity shows up at sevenot
thirty to talk about something else. That is I'm laughing
about the campaign make Government work? M Is that even possible?

(01:00:48):
I will ask him and Congressman Thomas Messy fast forward
to eight oh five. We'll talk shut down. We'll also
talk about the mysterious disappearing Epstein vote. Will we have
a vote to release the Epstein files. I know he's
backing that effort. I'm firmly behind Congressman Massey in that effort.
And of course, as I've said many times, kind of
disappointed in the Trump administration for the one eighty it
did in connection with those documents. Judge and an Apolitano

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question mark when or the column Tonight we have a
little bit more to talk about with the judge when
presidents killed, talking about the striking of those of Venezuela
and Narco terrists. And we also have that new opinion
from the Office of Legal Counsel which apparently gives Trump
carte blank, carte blanche authority to launch military strikes wherever
he damn well pleases, as long as he makes a

(01:01:30):
declaration of eminent threat. I'm still waiting for someone to
call me up and tell me how a boat one
fifteen hundred, maybe two thousand miles away and not a
very big boat can represent an eminent threat to the
United States. We do have a Coastguard. When they get close,
dropping off drugs may present an eminent threat, but that
will be our waters, our coastal waters taken care of

(01:01:51):
by the law enforcement on waters, which is the Coast Guard.
They regularly arrest drug dealers and prosecute them in a
court of law where they'll get a lawyer and they'll
get do process and then they'll get locked up.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
Anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
The judge on that topic coming up and going back to,
you know, Governor Pritzkers in Illinois comments about, you know,
the the chaos that has been unleashed by the federal
government and going and attacking US citizens and arresting US citizens.
Here we go great illustration of this. If you're a
US citizen and you're arrested, according to the Department of

(01:02:25):
Homeland Security, it's because you committed a crime, not because
you're a US citizen who had just happened to be
in the wrong place at the wrong time. Here's an
illustration and an eye opening one too, a professor at
the University of Chicago. Go ahead and try to get
your kid in the University of Chicago. Check out your tuition.
Then remember that we have this kind of professor teaching you.

(01:02:47):
Resting on Friday, charge with following riots and immigrations and
Custom Enforcement Center authority, said Aimon abdel Hadi. She's an
associate professor, and get a load. What the hell is
this the Department of Comparative and Human Development. I have

(01:03:11):
no idea what that is. Anyway, they have a department there,
and this is an associate professor within that mysterious department.
Charged with two counts of aggravated battery against the government employee,
which is a felony. Two counts of resisting or obstructing
peace officers at protest outside the ICE sight in Chicago crimes.

(01:03:31):
Since it's not mentioned in the reporting that a. Aiman
abdel Hattie is an illegal immigrants, so I'm gonna assume
that she is not usually widely reported when ICE picks
up someone and arrest them. That, in addition to being
engaged in criminal activity resulting in the arrest. They also
happen to be in here illegally. That was not mentioned.

(01:03:54):
As for the professor described as a radical sociologist. A
radical sociologist okay, at least the New York Post described
her as such. They posted pictures from rally on Friday,
accusing Illinois state troopers of enforcing President Trump's agenda of

(01:04:16):
terrorizing our community with abductions. Huh, she's previously accused. Well,
her own employer. Get a load of this, talk about
biting the hands that feed you. What a total radical?
Her employer, the University of Chicago. She was at a
Socialism twenty twenty five conference, blank f word, the University
of Chicago. My employer. It's evil, you know, it's a

(01:04:39):
colonial landlord. Like, why would I put any of my
political energy into this space? Huh? I kind of had
a little bit of disdain for people who spend their
time doing that. Now, unpackaged that she's talking about her employer. Okay,

(01:05:03):
I think the salient point is here. US citizen professor
at a distinguished university arrested for committing a crime, not
for being a US citizen in the wrong place. At
the wrong time. Annie Real quickly here to show what

(01:05:24):
actually can be done in a government shutdown, Republicans yesterday
approved more than one hundred Trump nominees. They've been held
up now for months, but they had a rule change
over in the Senate which allows them to fast track
these folks. So it's a whole bunch of folks. And
it's not just judges. It's like ambassadors to the Bahama,

(01:05:45):
the ambassador to India. Those are approved, a variety of
other people will approved, but in one unanimous or in
one vote. So my understanding is the rule change allows
a lot of these to be just sort of pushed
through under one single votes. He got one hundred plus
appointees or nominees one single vote cast, all of them approved,

(01:06:08):
a total of one hundred and seven. So congratulations, he
actually got something done during a government shutdown. I'll just
ask an out loud question, rhetorical as it may be,
are they working on the twelve appropriation bills right now?
Because if they ultimately hammer out and we get a
continuing resolution, let's say next week, I mean the expiration
dates like the November in the middle of November, so

(01:06:32):
we're gonna be revisiting the exact same thing now if
they don't get the twelve appropriations done by the next
deadline that they're arguing about now for the past week. Yeah,
Big Picture with Jack Avinan after the top of the
our news we're gonna find out about the communist NFL together,
stick around today's top story. It's seven to six on

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a Wednesday. It is that time when we get to
hear the brilliance of our friend Jack Aviden, and it's
time for the Big Picture with Jack Avidy And I
was really intrigued about your subject matter. Welcome back, Jack,
always great having you on the show.

Speaker 9 (01:07:13):
Thank you for having me backpal. As you know, my
favorite sport is what Howard Cosell used to call the
National Football League. That was back when we were kids
and the NFL was just another big business, not today's
death star. Wait what did he say? Yeah, who's being

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killed by the NFL? Well, certainly not the owners. Mike
Brown and his thirty one NFL partners are expected to
rake in twenty three billion dollars this year.

Speaker 3 (01:07:46):
Easy and all the.

Speaker 9 (01:07:47):
Other businesses living off the NFL they're doing okay too.
From TV networks that as we've discussed Brian are being
kept alive by football to the makers of NFL Jersey
another year. Most of it made in communists China, to
gambling palaces and bookies, right down to the mascots. I

(01:08:09):
have spotted who Day in costume at some of Cincinnati's
swankiest restaurants with a whole bevy of Bengal cheerleaders. It's
good to be connected with the NFL. But crazy as
it sounds, Brian, cruel as it sounds, the guys who
are being killed by the NFL are some of the

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league's best players, the ones who go number one in
the draft. And that's because when it comes to the draft,
pro football owners agree with your favorite saying my friend
from Karl Marx, from each that is, from each draft prospect,
according to his ability to each meaning to each bad

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team owner, according to his needs for leftists who don't
follow football because it's too brutal, let me explain how
this works. American football seeks parody among its thirty two teams.
It's a worthy goal. So the NFL spreads young talent
around by letting teams with the worst records get the

(01:09:14):
highest picks in the draft. That's great, for the losing teams,
especially if they are perennially losing teams, but it banishes
the most coveted college players to Siberia otherwise known as
pick them, the Jets, the Panthers, and with some exceptions,

(01:09:34):
we've had some good seasons, but over the course of
decades our Bengals, there's a reason that nationally they are
known as the Bungals. Teams with owners who know less
about football than how to make money, the NFL sacrifices
its most promising young quarterbacks the way ancient Greeks sacrificed virgins.

(01:09:57):
Now it's true, Brian, not many college quarterbacks are virgins.
But does this sacrifice, this reward for losing, really help
bad teams get any smarter?

Speaker 5 (01:10:08):
Does it?

Speaker 9 (01:10:08):
Finally dawn on Mike Brown that in order to protect
his latest shiny new quarterback, maybe the Bengals ought to
pick up great offensive linemen big beefies.

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
But intell it, it seems so obvious the strategy. Jack,
I'm sorry, I'm laughing. Go ahead. Did we lose him?
We lost him? So what do you want me to do? Joe?
Jack Atherton is back. Jack, welcome back. You got cut off.
I don't know how it happened, but we lost you.

(01:10:41):
I was laughing at your comment about maybe the Bengals
might consider larger people on the offensive line, which was
a great idea. You have to be a coaching genius
to figure that one out. Anyway, Jack, you have the floor.
Welcome back.

Speaker 5 (01:10:54):
Oh, I know how I got cut off. The NFL
strikes again. I was saying, we need a big deep
of guys like Andrew Whitworth. You remember him. He was
one of the best players, one of the best people
the Bengals ever had under contract. Well, Mike Brown let
Whitworth walk all the way to Los Angeles, where he

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was instrumental in winning a Super Bowl for the Rams.
All right, let's fast forward fast through Joe Burrow, the
most talented quarterback I've ever seen, and I go back
Don Unitis and Joe Namath. Joe Burrow feels less like
a quarterback than a manager who's being rushed by all
the bulls at Pamplona, rushed this season once again to

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the hospital. This could lead Joe to follow Carson Palmer.
We remember Carson, the bengals previous number one quarterback. He
retired in frustration and only came back to the NFL
when he was allowed to play for another team. My point, Brian,
is that communism does not work, can be awfully cruel. Yes,

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the NFL has good intentions. It wants every team, no
matter how crueless its ownership, to have a chance. So
the league keeps rewarding failure and sacrifice, seeing merits twitching
as you new On would friends to politics. That's what
democrats socialists do today, and with far less reason. The

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NFL at least seeks to foster competition, and the league
knows that even the most shell shocks the young quarterbacks
will be paid unless their careers are cut short the
way another Andrew Andrew lux was because the late jimmy
Erci's colts failed to protect him. Let's pray that never
happens to Joe Burrow. But by keeping bad teams hopeful

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every spring by rewarding their idiocy with number one draft picks,
the NFL is not helping the sports or the fans,
and certainly not the young athletes who train and compete
from the time they suit up for Pop Warner as
five year olds. Just as democrats socialists don't help children

(01:13:05):
by insisting that high schools graduate them and then send
them off to college and then hire them for dei
government jobs when they are still functionally illiterate. And we're
talking about kids that both sexes and all races and ethnicities,
so don't call me a racist. The answer, I think
is to penalize schools and teachers that receive taxpayer funding

(01:13:29):
but cannot meet basic standards and more important, to help
their students, which remedial courses, not phony diplomas. It also
wouldn't hurt Brian to make more of an effort to
enlist parents into helping their own kids. Because schools and
Hillary Clinton's village cannot do it all, they shouldn't be

(01:13:50):
expected to do it all. It takes parents, preferably to parents,
to raise children finally, not nearly as important as kids
in school, but important to long suffer in football fans.
I think the NFL should limit the number of times
bad teams can ruin the top draft picks. Having to
compete for players is the only way bad teams will

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finally improve. Brian recall it the National Football League because
it's all Americans. Let's make sure the NFL and our
schools uphold the American ideal. Of rewarding not failure, but
real merits. What are you saying?

Speaker 3 (01:14:29):
No, of course I love the segue into education. Very
well done pivoting from NFL. But I guess it seems
to me and my initial reaction to your point about,
you know, giving the poorest teams the first draft courts
choice is just because someone is desired and is a
number one draft pick for a variety of teams because
they're the college stats show that they're great players. That

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doesn't guarantee success in professional football, does it. There have
been some real letdowns when it comes to number one
draft picks and some of the top draft picks. Is
isn't there enough, to your point, available talent among the
draftees to satisfy the needs of these teams? So you
can't you can pick some, you know, if you're not,
you know, given preferential treatment because you suck, you still

(01:15:15):
have an option Because I think the theory behind this
allocation is that, well, the game's going to become boring.
All the best players are going to end up And
it used to be Dallas, right, and oh my god,
it's unbeatable to the America's team. They win every time.
It was almost a foregune conclusion, making the games kind
of well, like, well, I know who's going to win,
it's less interesting to watch. I think they think that
by sort of wealth redistributing the players into various teams

(01:15:40):
is going to create at least the perception of some
fairness between teams. Isn't that the concept behind it?

Speaker 5 (01:15:46):
Well, Dallas has another jam, another beauty, as Trump would
say of an owner Jerry Jones has tell you about him. Look, yes,
there's no guarant see that a player is going to work.
You have to sit into a system and it has
to be a good sis. Some players realize that they're
heading for disaster. John Elaware is the Eli Mannings. They

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were able to insist that they not have to go
to garbage teams, and hopefully the teams that wanted them
so bad they learned something from the fact that they
were turned down, just as you know. I've been turned
down count times like girls, and I hope I learned
something from it. Before I thought it was some one
who would accept me, and we've been married forty for years. Yeah,
it can work out either way. But this idea that

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once in a generation talent like Joe Burrow and maybe
he wasn't a once in a generation talent. But a
guy like Baker Mayfield was picked up by Cleveland and
could have been ruined. I mean, they could have killed him.
And you know, I think by Cleveland is they're so stupid.
They had a guy who was a rookie and he
had to learn. He took them from one in fifteen

(01:16:55):
to the playoffs and they fill got rid of them.
And now Joe Burrow for Macield after going to two
other teams, he's doing pretty well down in Tampa Bay.
Here's no guarant see how this stuff is going to
work out, but Joe Burrow will tell you there was
every reasonable lee that he was going to step into
a bad situation because of the way the NFL structures

(01:17:15):
these things. And yeah, it was our game, but I
hope it's not too much his loss. Man.

Speaker 3 (01:17:21):
He does seem to be a bit of a like
a glass jaw kind of guy. He's always injured. But
you can blame the offensive line. Maybe, yeah, that's certainly
something to do with it.

Speaker 5 (01:17:29):
And fundamentally, you know, let me say, Joe, according to
a lot of people who know a lot more about
football than I do, sometimes holds onto the ball too long.
You know, he's got to learn to get that quick
release that kept you know, Tom Brady's and people like
that from from getting hospitalized every year.

Speaker 3 (01:17:48):
Yeah, that is because he can't count his offensive line
to give him the protection he needs to get the
successful pass. I think ultimately, you know, moving away from
the politics and the socialism and communism comparisons and the
criticisms of the way the draft works all that, I
think fundamentally for us it boils down to the ownership
and the coaching. Right, if you made better choices in

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terms of player selection, you might have a better team
on your hands, and your quarterback might.

Speaker 5 (01:18:13):
Be the ones. Yeah, the owners are the ones who
picked their coaches. And there's no salary cap when it
comes to a coach. You can go out and get
somebody really great. You know. The NFL, I think most
people know sports fans now is not like baseball. The
owners who are all given basically the same amount of
money to play with, and they have salary camps for

(01:18:33):
the players. So if you Bill Burrow, yeah, you have
to make sure you have a good coach, you have
a good line, and then you got.

Speaker 3 (01:18:40):
To have some luck and a little money left over
to hire some good sized offensive linemen. Jack Kennedy, a.

Speaker 5 (01:18:47):
Little money got focus of the Bengals. Yeah, but look,
I don't want to tell businesses how to run their business.
I'm a conservative and I'm not suggesting there's anything unconstitutional
the arow the like to bad teams. The league is
a private organization and they are in titles that run
themselves the way they like. But boy, it seems unfair

(01:19:09):
when we don't even see him on the sideline.

Speaker 3 (01:19:11):
Now, yeah, that's a good point, Jack, you always made
great points. I'm glad you come on the morning show
to talk about them. We'll do another big Picture with
Jack Ryan.

Speaker 6 (01:19:17):
Yeah, forgive me.

Speaker 5 (01:19:19):
But can I just mention one of the other things
that we end on a positive notes?

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
Yes, kudos to the.

Speaker 5 (01:19:24):
Kudos to the University of Cincinnati Bearcats because they are
building a football culture and they have then for a
while with two ups and downs, but they're doing it
the right way and they had a landmark win last Saturday.

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
Yeah, one of the best teams.

Speaker 5 (01:19:37):
Eventually, Iowa's faked. I wish I could have rushed the
field with everybody else down at Nippert So good luck
to them.

Speaker 3 (01:19:44):
Again and it's not just luck well and contrasting the
football team. When I was in college, there was no
reason to go to the game other than to take
your bagg of knops and excuse for a party. They
sucked huge back when I was in college. So I'm
glad to see him doing well, and I'm glad you
have the have you on the program, JACKI and I
appreciate your thoughts and comments and your insight. Will do

(01:20:04):
it again next week hopefully, Jack. Best of health and
love to you and your better.

Speaker 5 (01:20:08):
Half Man Oh Chury, Thanks so much.

Speaker 3 (01:20:11):
Brian Bubba by bye, seven twenty five fifty five Cares.

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It's seven twenty nine fifty five KRSD talk station and
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Judgejenna Politana, preceded by Congressman Thomas Massey. In the meantime,
Welcome back to the fifty five carsee morning show from
Americans for Prosperity. Donovan and he it's always great having
you on the show. Donovan Brian, always a pleasure to
start my Wednesday with you, and I've been laughing all

(01:20:44):
morning at the subject matter is just make government work?
Campus like, is that even possible? They have to be
open to get work done, apparently, although they were able
to approve one hundred and seven of Donald Trump's nominees
and positions yesterday, uh, fast tracking that. But they had
a solution for that that didn't require sixty votes in
the Senate. They need that many votes to get the
government open again. So absent and open government, I doubt

(01:21:06):
it's going to be working. Some of my listeners are
actually quite pleased about that. Before we jump to the
make Government Work program, your reaction to the Democrats lining
the same position on this, I mean, we keep going
back to the fact that the premium supplements were waved.
The cap was waved because of COVID, and they put
an end date in that legislation, which is the end

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of this calendar year. That was by the Democrat's own hand.
It's something they agreed to. They're going to end. COVID
is over. We have no reason to continue this, and
yet they're the Democrats are insisting that we give all
kinds of people, including illegal immigrants, but even people who
make two hundred and three hundred four hundred thousand dollars
a year or how whatever amount over sixty two to five.
They're going to get a break and have their premium

(01:21:49):
supplement by the American tax payer. I don't get how
they have any traction on this at all, donov and
I just want to get your reaction to their position
relative to the Republicans.

Speaker 1 (01:21:59):
Well, yeah, and the reality is there is zero connection
between this government shut down and the demands of Chuck
Schumer on these COVID subsidies. They're entirely and wholly unrelated.
And the fact that this narrative continues to be able
to exist, you know, in traditional media, and that they're

(01:22:22):
not being laughed out of Washington, DC the Democrats over
this is just unbelievable, zero connection, Brian, between our government
not functioning right now, military pay at risk, federal employees
pay at risk next week, and these COVID subsidies totally unrelated,
And it's.

Speaker 3 (01:22:39):
Such a black and white there's no gray area in this.
The continued resolution offered by the Republicans is the Biden
level of spending. So the Democrats aren't complaining about all
the evil Republicans. CR wants to cut this, that and
the other thing. No, it doesn't, so that argument isn't there.
So we really are talking about extending these COVID era
supplements that message the reality the black and the reality

(01:23:03):
of the black and white nature of this dispute that
it isn't resonating or maybe is lost on the American people.
That's a struggle that you deal with Americans for prosperity
all the time. If people don't pay attention, if they
don't bother looking into the whys and wherefores, they're just
going to listen to a SoundBite from the Democrats or
the Republicans as the case maybe, but they're going to
be in a factual vacuum.

Speaker 1 (01:23:25):
Yeah, And I think that's part of what we've been
out there driving and I think Speaker Johnson and the
Republican majority in Congress have done a great job of
driving that home. We have to reject the Democrats premise
here there's no need for a deal, that it's a
manufactured crisis that is easily resolved with the clean Continuing
Resolution that's already passed out of Congress. Is oversitting with

(01:23:48):
the Senate and just takes sixty votes. It'd be great
to get one hundred, right, to get everybody to agree
we're just going to keep our government running while we
proceed through the normal order of business of getting these
budget bills completed and sent to the press. It and
so yeah, the idea here, Brian Wright, is reject the
premise of what Democrats are putting for because it's it's bogus,

(01:24:08):
it's not real. They're unconnected issues, and the crisis exists
only because Chuck Schumer wants to use the September thirtieth
end of the federal fiscal year. He used the September
thirtieth end of the fiscal year to create a crisis
and to try to score some partisan wins on an
issue that they can talk about, debate and discuss beyond

(01:24:29):
the government shutdown.

Speaker 3 (01:24:30):
Well, you mentioned Johnson when he was he did his
press conference on this issue. He was bulletproof, rock solid,
very just laid out point by point reason why this
is all on the Democrats corner. The point that I
just boiled down a moment ago about these COVID nineteen
year or something mean, you couldn't It was just easy

(01:24:50):
to unpackage and easy to listen to. But if no
one's listening to that message. I heard a talking head
comment on that that you know X number of people
actually watched it or clicked on the replay on social
media versus Bernie Sanders or whoever else rambling about the
evil Republicans which had millions and millions by contrast clicks

(01:25:10):
on it. So if you're hiding in that factual vacuum,
you're not interested in hearing what Johnson's going to say.
You're not going to see how bulletproof is logic is.
So there's that uphill struggle. We constantly deal with waking
the American people up and getting them to try and
pay attention. So let's pause. We'll bring Donovan O'Neil back
and talk specifically about how you and I can help
make government work to the extent that's a good idea.

(01:25:33):
We'll continue to de talk Station Brian Thomas with Americans
for Prosperities Dominant O'Neill on the concept of make government work.
Over at makegovernmentwork dot org. You can find all the
I love this one, Donovan particularly, you have five specific acts,
the Reorganizing Government Act to prevent government Shutdown Zact, the
Rains Act among them, and each one would go a

(01:25:55):
long long way to accomplish the goals of my listeners
and I are really hoping to see some day, you know,
getting rid of inefficiency, getting rid of bureaucracy, streamlining processes,
making government more efficient, and preventing the government from shutting
down in the event they can't resolve things. So let's
talk about some of these. Congressman Massy has brought up
some of these particular acts before. But an opportunity you've
made so easy for our listeners to get engaged. Just

(01:26:17):
give them your name and your email address, and so
they'll send you a call to action from time to time.
This is the well oiled machine that we need on
our side of the political ledger, much in the same
way those leftists and Marxists and socialists have such a
well lower machine when it comes to social media. So
help you help yourself, help Americans for our prosperity. Let's
talk about some of these. Donovan, the Reorganizing Government Act.

Speaker 1 (01:26:41):
Yeah, this is this is a piece of legislation from
Kentucky Representative James Comer.

Speaker 2 (01:26:47):
It's active legislation.

Speaker 1 (01:26:48):
We've got nineteen co sponsors right now, and what it
would require is an independent review for waste and overlapping services,
provide Congress with reorganization plans right to I'll sort of
pinpoint from independent analysis what needs to be done to
get you the duplicative regulatory bodies and just the bloat

(01:27:10):
and overweight of government streamlines so it can actually operate efficiently.
And these aren't like I mean, they are pie and
the sky ideas Brian right. But like outside of government,
large organizations, large complex organizations are able to do this stuff,
and we just need to bring some of those practices
and ideas to government to make it work at a
cost effective way with the precious tax tape pair dollars

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we give it so that it can function without chaos
and craziness.

Speaker 3 (01:27:39):
Well, because the free markets out here in the real world,
where real work has to be done and they have
to make a real profit, they're allowed to streamline and
engage in rifts and reorgs and elimination of departments without
fear of litigation. Because most of the employers have the
freedom to hire or fire at will. You don't have
that in the federal government. They have rules, regulations, unions
protecting the government employees ease, and there's so much red

(01:28:01):
tape involving eliminating a position. It just gets bigger and bigger,
and no one ever seems to get fired.

Speaker 1 (01:28:08):
Well, yeah, and I think you know, we see glimmers
of this the early days of Trump forty seven. Right,
just a few short months ago, there was a there
was that that energy existed. I think in Washington, make
some of those reforms. Now you're taking you know, you're
going up against what is that that an immovable object
and an unstoppable force, right, Yes, kind of colliding here,
but you know it's it's legislation like this right that

(01:28:29):
it has the opportunity of Congress has the courage to
reassert its authority and right size the ship. It's possible,
it's constitutional, and we appreciate Senator or Representative Comer for
bringing this forward. And we're kind of beating that drum
out there on on this as a key solution to
fixing the bloat and wasting government.

Speaker 3 (01:28:47):
And there is no reason to be against the prevent
Government Shutdown z Act. We wouldn't be in the middle
of this stupidity if we had this, and this is
one of the ones that I've talked about with Congressman Massy.
Remind my listeners about this one.

Speaker 1 (01:28:58):
Yeah, so this is from Senator James Langford, and this
actually has been around for a few sessions of Congress.
It came about in twenty nineteen when we had the
thirty five day shutdown. Shutdowns are a more recent in
art in American history phenomenon. It actually came out of
the nineteen seventies and an interpretation from the Carter administration

(01:29:20):
on the function of government when it fails to pass
a budget. It's created a crisis to crisis environment where
like we're seeing right now, right wholly unrelated issues like
covid era, health ACA subsidies are trying to be connected
to the normal funding of our federal government at current levels,

(01:29:41):
totally unconnected issues. We can prevent government shutdowns though, by
automatically funding government at current levels until the budget process
is done and putting some accountability measures like hey, Congressman,
you can't use taxpayer dollars to get out of Washington
go home, and you know, you know, peacock in front
of your constituents. You got to stay in Washington until

(01:30:03):
the job is done and you get the budget It's
the most essential function of.

Speaker 2 (01:30:07):
Congress, Brian.

Speaker 1 (01:30:08):
We know this right is to fund our federal government
and manage it to prevent government shutdown. Act would eliminate
the crisis to crisis approach that exists right now when
Congress government can shut down because Congress Build Act.

Speaker 3 (01:30:21):
All right, moving over the Comprehensive Congressional Budget Act.

Speaker 2 (01:30:27):
Yeah, So what this would do when we budget at home?

Speaker 8 (01:30:30):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:30:31):
And I know Congress in Washington, DC aren't like budgeting
at home, but you put everything together, right. You don't
get to just say, hey, you know, my mortgage payment's
over here, and you know date Night with the wife
budget is over here. It's all one big budget, right,
You get one paycheck and it all gets You got
to budget it all out right now, Congress has shrunk

(01:30:52):
discretionary spending is only about twenty five percent seventy five
percent or more? Is this direct spending like Social Security,
Medicaid care, these these programs that are sort of I
would describe as.

Speaker 2 (01:31:03):
Being on autopilot for budgeting.

Speaker 1 (01:31:05):
We need to put the whole picture together and have
a full picture of what our federal government is in
taking and outgoing spending so that we're actually making decisions
about the total ledger, not just that small percentage that
is discretionary.

Speaker 2 (01:31:20):
We want Congress to be in control of the purse.
And what this would is would require that.

Speaker 3 (01:31:26):
So they take in X, they've got mandatory spending, which
is a pile that represents why so X minus Y
is what's left over, and that has to be allocated
responsively among what's left the non discretionary spending. So if
you have a finite amount of cash left over in
the pile, you limit your spending to what's left over.

(01:31:47):
That's responsible budgeting, which means a lot of stuff is
going to have to get cut because it isn't really
truly a priority.

Speaker 2 (01:31:54):
Yeah, I think you know, cut adjusted.

Speaker 1 (01:31:57):
You know, not that I would advocate or we would
outgate for this, right, but if you you know, Congress
deems this a priority. We're gonna have to raise taxes
or some other form of revenue to get it done.
But right now, we kind of look at these things
in pieces and parcels. We want Congress to look at
this as the whole picture, right Congress, Like you said,
it takes an X, it's got to spend. Why what
do you what do you what are the actual priorities,

(01:32:19):
where can the where is the federal government best position
to be impactful or have programs. But again, right now,
as long as it's sort of sliced and diced and
split up, more of it's on autopilot. When we actually
want Congress to take a more active approach to governing,
that's what we send them there to do.

Speaker 2 (01:32:35):
We elect them to go there and do that. A
handful do we need all of Congress to do that?

Speaker 3 (01:32:40):
And the next one's come up quite frequently. Again, again
I've talked with Congress from mass about the Rains Act.
This is a really important one.

Speaker 1 (01:32:48):
Well, absolutely, once we get the and we can get
government reorganized, we can get you know this this shutdown
threat removed from the equation in Washington, d C.

Speaker 2 (01:32:57):
And you get the budgeting figured out. Y'all got to
make sure the bloat doesn't come back, right.

Speaker 1 (01:33:02):
And each of these are important on their own, but
the Rains Act in particular, you know, as we start,
especially this Trump administration with Doe starts clearing out rules
and regulations and streamlining permitting.

Speaker 2 (01:33:13):
If we can clear out the cobwebs.

Speaker 1 (01:33:15):
But what we need to do is by enacting the
Rains Act keep that proliferation of rules and regulations from
coming back, and it would the regulations from.

Speaker 2 (01:33:24):
The executive in need a scrutiny.

Speaker 1 (01:33:26):
Is good for both Republicans and Democrats because it'd keep
these most egregious, economically harmful rules from going into effect
without at least Congress taking another look at him and saying, yeah,
this is what we intended.

Speaker 2 (01:33:38):
We believe this is important and it's right now.

Speaker 1 (01:33:42):
Got ninety two co sponsors, including Ohio's own Dave Taylor
from southern Ohio.

Speaker 2 (01:33:46):
So we appreciate that cool from him.

Speaker 3 (01:33:48):
Yeah, Well, and force the Democrats to defend what they want,
which is egregiously intrusive and irresponsible regulations. Make them justify
it now, at least the conversation will be air, will
air all this out in the public. Now, finally we
have the Midnight Rules Relief Act. I'm not familiar with
this one, Donovan.

Speaker 1 (01:34:06):
So this is from Arizona Representative Andy Biggs, and this
is an important piece in that how many times do
we hear right, You get to December or January when
a new administration is coming in and the outgoing lame
duck president starts writing rules and auto Penning rules. Whatever
they're doing, right, they're just going on a flurry of
enacting the things that might have been politically unpopular in
the early part of their tenure of their administration. But

(01:34:29):
they jam that stuff through.

Speaker 2 (01:34:31):
We shouldn't be doing that stuff. What it would do
is it would target some of these late term regulations.

Speaker 1 (01:34:36):
So anything sort of that you're the administration is trying
to do in the final year on office, give that
a little more scrutiny.

Speaker 2 (01:34:42):
Expand the Congressional Review Act to be.

Speaker 1 (01:34:44):
Able to bundle some of those reviews together, where right
now I believe they have to do them sort of individually,
with each individual rule, ultimately saving time and taxpay dollars.
Some rules need to be implemented, right, But we want
to reassert that congressional authority that if you're on the
Biden administration and you're on your way out, you don't
get to put all this stuff in, you know, Monday

(01:35:05):
night and Tuesday morning. When the next president comes in,
they've got to figure out what the damage is and
what actually needs to be adjusted.

Speaker 3 (01:35:14):
I couldn't agree more with that. So, as we typically
end on the call to action, I know the website
is Makegovernmentwork dot com. How can my listeners get engaged?

Speaker 2 (01:35:25):
Well, go to that website.

Speaker 1 (01:35:26):
And the important part about this toolkit why I wanted
to join you and talk about this today, is so
many of our friends on the left say, well, Republicans
have no solutions. Conservatives have no solutions to these problems.
We have solutions, Brian. Makegovernmentwork dot com. It's a place
you can go. There's five active pieces of legislation in
Congress right now that would solve many of the structural

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problems that have put.

Speaker 2 (01:35:49):
Us in the situation we're in here today, eight days
into a government shutdown.

Speaker 1 (01:35:53):
Go there, arm yourself with some information and go out
and have that conversation with folks.

Speaker 2 (01:35:57):
And if you want to join us, go.

Speaker 1 (01:35:59):
There, share your information. We'll reach out and we'll get
you plugged into some of the events and activities we
have going on around the Buckeye State.

Speaker 3 (01:36:05):
I know you will. You always have and you'll continue
to do so. Americans for Prosperity, head on over to
Makegovernmentwork dot com. Just Trek will put a link up
on my blog page fifty five care Sea dot com
case you can't remember that. Donovan O'Neil, thanks for what
you and Americans for prosperity do each and every day.
Appreciate your willingness to help out voters here in the
state of Ohio get involved as well as dealing with
national legislation, which of course is the scope of this

(01:36:26):
Make a Government Work plan. Donovan will get you out
back on real soon. Have a great day and keep
up the excellent work the talk station seven fifty four
to fifty five care Cit talk Station. Interesting concept. Making
government far more efficient, streamline it so it can actually
do work efficiently, something we expect from the private sector
and something we never get from the government. Why because

(01:36:46):
we can't. We don't have a choice. There's no choice.
You are forced to pay taxes, taxes that fund a government.
The government is run by our bureaucrats who refuse to
reduce the size and global of government, even though they
spend far more than they take in. We don't have
any choice on that, with the exception of voting for
people who might consider efficiency and spending as a priority,

(01:37:08):
you're limiting your selection on that. Kind of reminds me
on some level. Public schools, you have no choice. They
make you go there, even though your children are not
getting educated to your expectations. They're inefficient, they're bloated, their
salaries don't reflect the benefit that you're getting from any
given teacher. I mean, you go on and on and on.
You are stuck there. So we can change schools, and

(01:37:31):
we can change the idea of giving you the choice
of where to go, much to the threat to the teachers'
unions and the public education system which is not delivering
because if it was, people would choose to stay there.
We don't have that option. When it comes to the
federal government, we don't. You're stuck. So why wouldn't we

(01:37:52):
demand better efficiency from our taxpayer dollars? Why do we
abide all of this fraud was abuse when it's our
money that's being abused and wasted, and it's our money
that is allowing an inefficient government to continue unabatedy five
K see the talk station. Congressman Thomas Massey is going

(01:38:14):
to come up next, follow by Judge enital POULTONO. I
sure hope you can stick around for the conversations.

Speaker 7 (01:38:19):
Today's top stories.

Speaker 3 (01:38:22):
Welcome to the beginning of my favorite hour radio. We
get to hear from Congressman Thomas Massey you followed by
Judge Ennita Poulitano, who may very well be listening right now.
Joe Strucker gave him the heads up that Congressman Massy,
you be on the program right now. Welcome back, my friend.
It's always a pleasure having you on the show.

Speaker 2 (01:38:38):
Great to be on.

Speaker 5 (01:38:39):
I'd rather be in DC, but Speaker Johnston doesn't want
us to come back.

Speaker 3 (01:38:44):
Yeah, I I you'd rather be in DC. You're not
in d C, which you anticipated one of what was
going to be one of my questions about this shutdown. Yes,
we're in the middle of a shutdown. Know the Democrats
will not agree to continuing to operate at the levels
that they created last year. It's the Biden level spending
that the Republicans passed over your objection, and I understand
that with a continuing resolution, they can't complain about cuts

(01:39:09):
the government anything. They're just trying to keep it open
and keep us hostage. Although none of my listening audience
feels hostage. Congressman Massy the oldest hostage. So they can
continue covid Era premium supplements under Obamacare, I mean COVID's over.
They put the deadline of December of twenty twenty five
in the legislation extending these benefits. They knew this was coming. Obviously,

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this is a pretext shutdown for them to continue along
the path of bringing us basically medicaid for all under
the Obamacare umbrella. Am I on the right path? Congressman Massy, Yes,
let me back up before we unpack all of that.

Speaker 5 (01:39:46):
So not only are we in a shutdown, we're in
a recess. And this is interesting because usually during a shutdown,
Congress is in set.

Speaker 2 (01:39:54):
There you go.

Speaker 5 (01:39:55):
But the Speaker, Johnson has decided politically it's better for
us not to be in town now. He says. The
reason is he doesn't want the Democrats doing dilatory things
on the floor, maybe making motions or whatnot. But the
reality is, if he were to call us back today,
he would have to swear in the one hundred and

(01:40:17):
eighteenth signature on my Epstein petition and we could force
a vote on releasing the Epstein file.

Speaker 3 (01:40:24):
Well, is that what this is about?

Speaker 5 (01:40:27):
This is I'm calling it. Okay, it may be the
Schumer shut down, but it's the Epstein recess.

Speaker 6 (01:40:33):
Is what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:40:36):
But wait to say, Okay, we're gonna get dive into
more of the details.

Speaker 2 (01:40:40):
On this one.

Speaker 3 (01:40:41):
But my question to you is going to be and
I just was putting the recess reality in the back
of my mind. If you the government shut down, that
doesn't stop you or the Senate from working on the
twelve appropriations bills, which is the reason you're doing the
CR to keep the government open until the middle of November,
because the way we're doing it right now, it's going
to be shut down up until the deadline that's in

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the CR.

Speaker 5 (01:41:04):
You can't open the government back down if Congress shut
it down and Congress is not in session. So it's
I mean, I understand, I understand his excuse, but I
think it's it's just an excuse, and I think we
should be in Washington, DC in the event that the
Senate does come to some agreement, then the House could

(01:41:26):
act immediately. But he's trying to basically jam the Senate
because the House already passed the CR and then the
Senate's sitting there and they're just having new votes on
that same CR to try to get more Democrats to fold.
People ask me when will the shut down end, and
I will, and I will tell you it ends the

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way it always ends. It ends when one side's polling
shows that they're taking a butt whipping in public opinion
and then they come to the table and give in.
So right now, neither side has a clear indication that
they're losing the messaging war. So we're going to be

(01:42:10):
in a shutdown for a while. I believe the next
big milestone is the middle of this month, which is
when government employees they get paid five monthly, twice a month.
That is going to be the big show down there now,
most not well a majority of government workers are probably Democrats.

(01:42:31):
I know a lot of good Republicans who work for
the government, but I would say a majority of them,
especially in DC, are Democrats. So the interesting thing is
going to be when they don't get their next paycheck. Now,
the reality is, I don't mean to sound callous or
to diminish this, but the credit unions will give anybody

(01:42:52):
who's a member of the credit union at advance on
their paycheck because they know that I'm talking about the
Federal Credit union right Because they know they're going to
get paid. There's never the employees who are whether they're
essential or non essential, they will all get paid when
the shutdown is over. That's the way it's been with
every shutdown, and knowing that the federal credit unions will

(01:43:17):
give the paycheck to any federal employee advance it without interest.

Speaker 3 (01:43:22):
It's a safe risk.

Speaker 5 (01:43:23):
But yeah, but it still makes it's still going to
be and not everybody's in a credit union, and it's
still going to make a talking point on the fifteenth
this month when they don't get paid. But in the meantime,
let me remind everybody what is on the table. The
Republicans thought they could avoid a shutdown by completely surrendering. Okay,

(01:43:46):
if they just passed Joe Biden's budget, that's exactly penny
for penny. It's Joe Biden's budget, line for line. That's
what the House representatives put on the floor. I didn't
vote for it, and one other Republican did not vote
for it, but it's still passed the House, it went
to the Senate, and ironically, you have people Republicans who
didn't vote for it when it was under Joe, when

(01:44:10):
Joe Biden was president, but now that Donald Trump is president,
they're voting for Joe Biden's budget. It's I'm literally one
of the only members of Congress who hasn't flipped their
vote on this. It needs to be the other vote
right round.

Speaker 3 (01:44:25):
Because you're a you're a you're a fiscal hawk and
of course a constitutional purists. And there's a reasons why
you wouldn't want to extend Joe Biden's level funding. And
I understand that all day long. But from a strategy standpoint,
ignoring the side that you and I are both on,
it does make sense to keep that Biden level because
that satisfied the Democrats last year. And that's a wonderful

(01:44:46):
talking point when you're trying to counter there oh my god,
we're all going to die narrative that goes along with this,
with this shutdown in the Republican cr And and let
me tell.

Speaker 5 (01:44:56):
You something, just to be completely intellectually honest, Joe Biden's
budget because of Joe Biden's inflation, If you do the
same thing dollar for dollar, it's going to be about
five percent less than it was last year because of inflation.
But and so you might say, well, then, Congressman Matthew,
why wouldn't you be inclined to vote for Joe Biden's

(01:45:18):
spending levels since inflation will reduce this and solve the
budget problem for you, Well, there's two reasons. One, spending
is policy. It's it's not that we've spent one point
five trillion under Joe Biden and we're going to spend
one point five trillion under Trump. It's that every line
item in there is exactly the same, including the things

(01:45:39):
that we cut out in DOGE. Now, the DOGE cuts
were only temporary, So what happens if Joe Biden's budget
passes again. All of the stuff we cut out using
DOGE goes back into the budget.

Speaker 6 (01:45:52):
So and then the.

Speaker 5 (01:45:53):
DEI stuff, that's all that's all going to be in there.
So it's number one. Spending is policy when you do
it line by line. If you said, well, Trump will
spend exactly the same amount, diminished by inflation, but we'll
move it around to different priorities, I might be able
to get behind that. Now here's the other reason I'm

(01:46:14):
not for Joe Biden's budget minus the five percent inflation
because in the Big Beautiful Bill, which was supposed to
only deal with mandatory spending, they added about four hundred
billion dollars of discretionary spending. So they put appropriations in
the Big Bill a few months ago on DOJ that's

(01:46:37):
Department of Justice, Department of Homeland Security, and Department of Defense.
So they've the Republicans have already plussed up spending, so
that even if we passed Joe Biden's budget, which is
what Mike Johnson wants to do and John Dune, even
if we passed Joe Biden's budget, and even if we
can account for inflation diminishing those dollar values, they've already

(01:46:59):
plus stuff the budget a few months ago. And that's
really what they won't tell you on the news. That's
why the Democrats are mad they didn't get a plus
up in their line items. And the usual deal wink wink,
nod nod in Washington, DC is Republicans increase their spending
and Democrats increase their spending, and that's how you get
to sixty votes in the Senate. So that's why they're

(01:47:20):
not voting for it. And then they're making up these
other medical things. Those aren't fights. If the stuff expires
in December, then that's when you have the fight in December.
They're also trying to undo the fraud fixes that we
put in the big beautiful bill to keep illegals from
getting Medicaid and whatnot. The Democrats are trying to take

(01:47:41):
that back out. But that's not the fight that you're
supposed to have on these appropriations bills. These should be
only the twelve spending bills, and you're right, we should
be back in Washington working on them.

Speaker 3 (01:47:52):
And where they'll have another opportunity to do whatever the
hell they want by way of policy or extending supplements
for people who otherwise don't need it. Let's pausele bring
Congressman Thomas Massey back at eight fifteen, right now fifty
five ker CD talk Ryan Thomas and Congressman Thomas Massey,
Congress A. Massy, you suggested, and I think at the
foregone conclusion you are ultimately going to get your vote

(01:48:14):
on the Epstein file release. And I always like to
use this opportunity as a time to express my dismay
that Trump did a one to eighty. I mean, he
campaigned on releasing the stuff. A lot of Republicans were
demanding it during the Biden administration. Democrats didn't bother pushing
to release the documents when they had the opportunity to
do so, but now they're clamoring to do it. I
don't know what changed. Honestly, no one brings it up

(01:48:36):
anymore except you this morning, for example. But once the
government shutdown is over and people return to work and
the recess is over, there's going to be a vote, right.

Speaker 5 (01:48:48):
Yeah, And the government shutdown doesn't have to be over.
This is an Act of Congress that doesn't require funding.
We can go back into session, and as soon as
we do, there's a congresswoman named Grihalva who won her
election two weeks ago who hasn't been sworn in. This
is also unprecedented, speious things, but we're not in. But

(01:49:11):
the reality is we have these pro forma sessions every
four days to keep the House and the Senate from
going into recess. Ironically, to keep President Trump from making
recess appointments. I don't agree with it, but that's what
they do. Every four days they meet, and they could
swear this congresswoman in on one of these recess appointments,
because they did that with two Republicans already this year.

(01:49:33):
But the speaker's not doing it. So as soon as
we get back. Now, this is what I'm telling you
is predicated on an assumption that none of my three
Republican co signers can be flipped by the White House,
because the White House is trying desperately to get either
Marjorie Taylor Green, Nancy Mace, or Lauren Bobert to take

(01:49:55):
their names off of my petition. But who did they
succeed in getting one of those women to take their
names off the petition. There's another congressperson who will be
elected in November who will be signing the discharge petition.
So I don't know why they keep dragging this out,

(01:50:15):
whether they just keep fighting to the bitter end. We
should have the vote. They can try to stop me
in the Senate, but they don't. Here's the thing, Briant,
they don't even want to have the vote.

Speaker 3 (01:50:29):
Well, lots of red flags waved over that one. Just
I mean, that just fuels the conspiracy theory narrative out there.
And who are we protecting on this?

Speaker 5 (01:50:39):
Good? Good question, good question. So the victims' lawyers have
indicated to me they are at least twenty men who
Epstein trafficked women too, that they gave the names to
the FBI, and the FBI recorded them, memorialized that in
the three h two forms. So we know that the

(01:50:59):
FBI has at least twenty names. I think six of
them are billionaires. One of them is a movie producer,
one is a former politician, one is a current person
in government, one's a CEO. Like I don't know their names,
but these are the indication that the victims lawyers have
given to me. And the reason they don't put out

(01:51:20):
the names is they would be sued into homelessness for defamation.
The government doesn't pursue any of this if they can't,
you get any of the evidence out there, and the
government's in possession of it. So the government needs to
release the names. But here's what I know. I know
the president is trying to protect some top Republican donors
and friends of his in West Palm Beach, and I

(01:51:44):
will stand by that and go.

Speaker 6 (01:51:46):
To my grave on that.

Speaker 3 (01:51:48):
Well, that would explain it, wouldn't it. I mean that
it's not right, but it certainly would make sense as
to how he didn't why he did a one to eighty.

Speaker 5 (01:51:56):
And then the other question is, well, it's if the
president's donors stand to lose in this white and Joe
Biden and the Democrats pursue this when they were in power. Well,
it's because once you get to the billionaire class, a
lot of these billionaires are just members of the UNI party.
They give to whichever parties in power. Who's ever having

(01:52:18):
the best parties? How do you get to the Lincoln
bedroom in the White House. So they give to both parties,
and I think you're going to see men implicated who
are friends and donors of both parties in this. And
then also finally, this is the conspiracy theory, but there's

(01:52:39):
a lot of weight to it. I introduced five documents
into the record in front of cash Battel a few
weeks ago in our judiciary hearing that indicate that Jeffrey
Epstein was working with National Intelligence MASAD and the CIA.
And I asked, I even asked cash Battel, have you
seen the CIA five on Jeffrey Epstein? He has not so,

(01:53:04):
and there is one. Now, why wouldn't he go look
at that?

Speaker 3 (01:53:09):
Good questions?

Speaker 5 (01:53:10):
Well, you know he's allowed to go see that. You
can't keep the director of the FBI because.

Speaker 3 (01:53:15):
He looks at it, He's going to have to answer
your questions. He can just play ignorance. I don't want
to see it because then I'll have to Then I'll say, yeah,
I do know what's in there. Yeah that makes sense.

Speaker 5 (01:53:25):
I asked Cash Btelly, have you seen the three h
two forms that the FBI filled out when the interviewed
the victims. He's not seen them. No, he's trusting. His
answer to me was he trusts that the people working
at the FBI would have given him those names if
they were credible evidence. And then my question is, do
you not think the victims are credible? Like let's the

(01:53:49):
Speaker of the House is trying to say that he's
trying to protect the victims, but my legislation would redact
their names in anything that could be used to identify
them out of the files, and the victims themselves support
my legislation.

Speaker 3 (01:54:03):
Yeah, that's the big point right there. Yeah, that he's
making an argument on their behalf that they don't want asserted. Wow, well,
welcome to government. No kid in Congress, Amassi, Let me
ask you a simple, straightforward question. Since Judge Ennatan Andrew
Napoltan is up next and he's maybe listening but going
to be commenting on this is an opinion from the

(01:54:25):
Office of Legal Counsel within the Justice Department telling Donald
Trump that he is allowed to authorize deadly force use
against well Cartel's because they pose an eminent threat to Americans.
Does a boat fifteen hundred miles away a small boat
maybe goes fifteen to twenty knots Is that an eminent
threat to the United States of America.

Speaker 5 (01:54:47):
I know somebody who worked in the Office of Legal
Counsel under Nixon, under Reagan, and he's still alive, and
he's in DC, and he advises me, and he says
that department exists just to justify think the President wants.
This man's testified in front of Congress on Iran contra,

(01:55:08):
like he knows that the Office of Legal Counsel they
sit over there constructing scaffolding that can go, you know,
ten stories high, and it's built out of bamboo and
lashed together with very weak legal arguments, and they just
rely on Congress not challenging them.

Speaker 3 (01:55:26):
Well, that's kind of the answer I expected, Carson Thomas Massey.
I appreciate the time you spoke my listeners of me
providing some truth in a world where we desperately need
to keep up the great work. I'll look forward today
you return from recess and start working on the appropriation
Bill's Congress, Massy, I'll look forward to having you back
on the show real soon.

Speaker 5 (01:55:45):
Thank you, Brian, say hi to the judge for me.

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You just did eight twenty seven and fifty five case
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Next subject, we're going to find out well when presidents
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It's into downtown. Good for an extra fifteen minutes. Coming
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because another judge powered is Yankees to a victory last night.
They've got I need a couple more, but Judge Napp's
next Chuck Ingram on fifty five KRC the talk station.

Speaker 3 (01:56:42):
Eight thirty two if you fi Krsity talk station, Well
at least it wasn't goofy or wacky. That was a
rather straightforward introduction. Welcome back to the fifty five KRC
Morning Show, my friend, judg Enna Politano.

Speaker 7 (01:56:53):
Yes, yes it was. And I think, if I have
this correct, a thirty eight year old old Italian from
New Jersey will soon become the hero of the Cincinnati Bengals.

Speaker 2 (01:57:08):
So I have that right.

Speaker 3 (01:57:09):
You may maybe collectively we've written off the Cincinnati Bengals
your honor. It's like, you want to be optimistic, but
they give us no reason whatsoever to be optimistic. So
maybe there is an element in there that's optimism.

Speaker 7 (01:57:21):
I feel sorry for Joe Burrow. He's such a talented kid,
but he just keeps getting hurt. I run over and
over again.

Speaker 3 (01:57:30):
Well, that came up in conversation early in the program,
and I think we're blaming management, coaching staff, the owners
for maybe not adequately protecting Joe Joe Burrow with a
reasonably competent offensive line. But you know, we'll see how
things play out over the long term, all right, And
I love your column. I don't know if you heard

(01:57:51):
me ask Congress from Massey about the Office of Legal
Counsel and Department of Justice giving Donald Trump the keys
to the American military when we face what he believes
to be and emin and threat. Congress Amassy just basically
said that that office is really designed to uphold literally
anything the White House wants to do, regardless of administration.
But I want to pause on that for a moment
and ask you about what I thought was really I

(01:58:15):
don't know orwellian the fact that that Donald or rather
all these elected officials, seven senators and one member of
the House of Representative, in this Arctic frost investigation launched
by the FBI in connection with the January sixth riots,
they got their phone records. We've talked about this kind

(01:58:36):
of they have.

Speaker 7 (01:58:37):
They have nobody to blame but themselves, right, because the statute,
the Electronic Privacy so called Electronic Privacy Act, you know,
the name really is often the misnumber, permits FBI agents
to get metadata. So it's who you called, when you called,
and how long you spoke, it's not the actual conversation.

(01:58:59):
I've been con this as a violation of the Fourth
Amendment since it was first inactive. This is enacted by
the Congress. They probably never imagined that it would happen
to them. That doesn't make it moral and it doesn't
make it constitutional, but it does make it legal. And
to make it even worse, Brian, this does not require

(01:59:20):
a search warrant signed by a judge. It can be
done by one of two ways. A grand jury subpoena
and a good prosecutor can get a grand jury to
subpoena anything, or a national security letter CHIE. What is
a National Security letter Patrade Act. That's where one FBI
agent authorizes another FBI agent to issue a search warrant

(01:59:46):
on stored records at your lawyer's office, your doctor's office,
your telecom, your computer Serverson that I don't blame is
and I frequently disagree with him. As Senator Holly, he
was outraged he was not in the Senate when this

(02:00:07):
legislation was enacted, but almost everybody else on that committee
yesterday was in both parties. In fact, the chair that's
been in the center for thirty years was around when
the original legislation was enacted.

Speaker 3 (02:00:21):
I'm glad you framed it that way. I had a
student listener call and point out the exact same thing.
Republicans or anybody who voted for that, has nobody blamed
for themselves for the fact that it's being used against
them in this particular case, question of whose ox is
being gord, I suppose.

Speaker 7 (02:00:35):
Right nobody's ox should be gored. They should follow the
Fourth Amendment. If Jack Smith had probable cause to believe
that there was evidence of a crime and a conversation
between I'm just going to use this hypothetically. I don't
know if the conversation happened Senator Josh Holly and President
Trump on January fifth or January sixth. He goes to

(02:00:56):
a federal judge, presents the evidence, and if the judge agrees,
he signed a search warrant. Short of that, not neither
Jack Smith nor any prosecutor, under any circumstances has the
right to surveil communications. But the Congress has butchered that
in a series of legislation, going back to legislative acts

(02:01:16):
going back to before nine to eleven. I believe it
or not, what left wing pinko creep signed the first
of these laws allowing the government to get your.

Speaker 3 (02:01:27):
Bank records George Bush right, Ronald Rayel.

Speaker 7 (02:01:32):
Nineteen eighty six. So this stuff goes way back. It
was of course accelerated after nine to eleven. After nine
to eleven, you have the Patriot Act and a swell
of amendments to it, every single one of which makes
surveillance without a search warrant easier. But the original damage
was done in nineteen eighty six under the so called

(02:01:53):
Bank Privacy Act, which gave the FEDS the right to
look at banking information when you deposited more than ten
thousand dollars in one deposits. That's what opened up these floodgates.

Speaker 3 (02:02:11):
And when you frame it that way, I just scratched
my head and wonder, why, what possible? I mean, well,
what cartels are using in drug dealers and utilizing so.

Speaker 7 (02:02:21):
In those days. In those days, we were at the
tail end of the drug wars, which had destroyed the
Fourth Amendment. And fear of drug dealers is what animated
Congress Post nine to eleven. Of course, it is fear
of terrorism, and what is it now? Whatever Donald Trump says,

(02:02:42):
it is fear of immigrants, fear of narco terrorists, fear
of whatever you want to be afraid of. In terms
of what Congressman Massy said, I had an internet problem
on my previous gig and I was not able to
jump on. Of course, I agree with everything he says,
but the Office of Legal Counsel was once the DOJ's lawyers.
You'll know the names of two people who in their

(02:03:05):
younger days ran the Office of Legal Counsel. One of
them is named William Rehnquist and the other is named
Antonin Scalia. These were truly the brightest stars in the DOJ.
They told the DOJ the law as they understood that
they were impervious to politics no longer today. I am

(02:03:27):
dying to see this so called secret memorandum that she has.
How can analysis of a public law possibly be secret?

Speaker 3 (02:03:36):
I know I was gonna ask you about that. He's
not gonna reveal the memo to the general public, even
though CNN is widely reported on it. But emminent threat
isn't that a rather subjective measure when it comes to
determined whether they're going to use military force. And I
go back to the boats he's blown up. I don't
like drugs. I don't want him in in the United States.

(02:03:57):
But you know that's what we have a coastguard for
if they get close to us, that we can pick
them up in process.

Speaker 7 (02:04:02):
How could four guys in a speedboat fifteen hundred miles
from the US unarmed or maybe with just small arms,
you know, handguns, possibly be considered an eminent threat to
the national security of the United States. The answer is
they can't. And even if they were an eminent threat,
it would make much more sense to arrest them, search

(02:04:26):
the boat if there's drugs there, seize the assets, and
then engage in plean negotiations with one of them to
find out where the drugs came from and who their
sources are. There are ways to accomplish these goals without
murdering people.

Speaker 3 (02:04:45):
Yeah, no question about it. Go about the normal course
of business. Pick them up. They obviously can have committed
a crime. Look, it's a drug, vote drug, it's a
boat full of drugs. That's against law. You're in our
territory of waters. You're going to be subject to prosecution.
I die anyhow. It's just troubling from my perspective, and
I worry. You know a lot of my listeners. I
think I hate drug dealers. I don't care that they

(02:05:06):
blew out. I don't care if it violates constitution. Well
I do, because somebody else is going to be in
office someday. Yeah, and they may decide that some organization
that we don't believe necessarily represents an eminent THREATSCA starts
getting bombed because of their political ideology or their geopolitical
ideology or whatever have you. It's so low a standard.
And we're talking about America's military here at minimum. And

(02:05:27):
you and I, I think agree on this point. We
don't believe authorizations for use of military force quite cut
the constitutional declaration of war standard. But at least get
Congress to agree with you and say, yes, you're right,
we stamp of approval, authorize you some military force because
we believe this to be an eminent threat. We can
hash that out right right.

Speaker 7 (02:05:49):
It's very, very dangerous. I got a little alarmist and
hyperbolic at the end of my column saying, who are
they going to shoot next? Drug dealers in Chicago?

Speaker 5 (02:06:00):
Go?

Speaker 7 (02:06:00):
But their logic for killing people before they commit crime
is the same logic we could out outside the territory
of waders of the United States. Is the same logic
that they could apply to people inside the United States.
By the way, how can it be a federal crime
even if they were carrying drugs from Caracas to some

(02:06:24):
island off the coast of Caracas. What business of the
federal government is that does federal law apply everywhere on
the planet.

Speaker 3 (02:06:36):
Don't tell them that they may get that idea. You're Honor,
and we'll start bombing targets all over the world without
with reckless abandon judg Jenna Politano, Logic. Reason is always
on the plate when we talk with you, and I
appreciate the willingness to come on the program every week
and have these great conversations.

Speaker 7 (02:06:51):
Right Bryan, It's my favorite morning, and I love being
able to chat with you no matter what the Yankees
or the Reds or the Bengals. To even mention this
the football team New York Giants are doing, it.

Speaker 3 (02:07:05):
Was a strain for you to get those words out
real quick. Judging Freedom is his weather or is podcast?
W are you gonna be speaking with today?

Speaker 2 (02:07:12):
You're Honor?

Speaker 7 (02:07:12):
About eleven this morning Eastern I have the great Colonel
Douglas McGregor. Colonel McGregor and I spent a weekend together
giving this past weekend in a beautiful place in the
United States, Dallas, Texas, where we were well received by
the people to whom we spoke. But he's warning that
war with Iran is imminent, and he's going to describe American,

(02:07:34):
not Israeli American preparations for that war. Does Iran pose
a threat to the national security of the United States?
Not one bit, But we're getting ready.

Speaker 3 (02:07:46):
It's gonna be a fascinating conversation, if not troubling judginga
paulatonom Until next Wednesday. God bless you, sir, have a
great week.

Speaker 7 (02:07:53):
Thank you, Brian, all the best.

Speaker 3 (02:07:54):
Take care, my friend. It's a forty three right now.
If you have KS the talk station Gate of Heaven anyway,
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Little technical difficulties during that as well, but we got
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from Jack adid In. Pretty amazing commentary as always, Donovan

(02:08:16):
and Neil, a whole bunch of stuff you and I
can help with to make government work and to make
government work dot com. Five specific bills are identified there,
like the Rains Act and the Keep Government Open Act,
and they really would go a long long way to
accomplish some efficiency and getting rid of fraud, waste and

(02:08:37):
abuse in government, so action item right there for you,
and I link at fifty five cares dot com. Of course,
Congressman Massi on the shutdown and its connection maybe with
the Epstein files. Wow, red flag all over that, and
of course Judge Jennna Politano fifty five cares dot com
get tryheart Metia ampire over there as well. I started
out the Morning show talking about this it we have

(02:09:00):
a choice here, flipped the natty, says Corey Bowman. Corey
Bowman running from Mary. He's a pretty darn good guy,
and I've talked to him a whole bunch of times
on the Morning Show, as you know if you listen regularly,
and not once, not once, has he ever tried to
hang his hat on the fact that he is the
half brother of JD Vans, vice president of JD Vance's
half brother, which is constantly, constantly the drum beat from

(02:09:22):
the media. He's got, really, I mean, other than a
partial bloodline connection. He's running to serve the city of
Cincinnati residence and he's very clear on that all residents.
He's not springing from particularly right wing perspective. He just
realizes that we have priorities in the city and keeping
roads paved and cracking down on crime, seeing that criminals

(02:09:47):
are held accountable to create a better environment for you
and me. Cutting out all the green New Deal woke
stuff that we can't afford, even if it was it
was going to do something. And to anybody out there
that thinks that city taxpayer money should go toward green projects,
ask yourself, what the hell can the city of Cincinnati

(02:10:10):
alone accomplish doing this. They're not doing it Warren County.
They're not doing in Butler County. They're not doing it
in Claremont County. They're not doing it in Newport, they're
not doing it in Covington. I could go on, probably
because maybe they don't have the financial resources to accomplish
some carbon neutrality exercise or green energy production exercise, but
because maybe they practically say, gee, well, we're all breathing

(02:10:31):
the same air. It's one big globe they are circulating.
And everything the entire country has done in the name
of carbon or cutting back carbon dioxide aka plant food
hasn't done a wit to reduce the amount of carbon
dioxide in the environment. Thanks to China and India and
Turkey and other very large producers of greenhouse gases, which

(02:10:53):
I personally believe. Carbon dioxide is a plutant to naturally
occurring phenomenon. The plants need to live, so it occurs
in the nature natural environment. It's critical for the functioning
of the planet. So what in the hell is the
city getting involved with something that, even if they achieve
their long term objectives and they could wave a flag

(02:11:14):
saying we're carbon neutral in Cincinnati, what's it going to
do for everybody in the world. Nothing, so long winded
way of saying that's I think that's backcrap in sanity
from the left. Do we want to allocate that as
a priority? I think that Corey Bowman would not, Well,
wait till after we get the roads fixed, Wait till
after we get these big projects over with, Wait till

(02:11:35):
after we get the crime situation ironed out. Wait till
after we bring more investments by lowering the regulatory burden
and getting things built and things accomplished. I mean, he's
hit the nail on the head of all the problems
the city has created, most notably created intentionally, I suppose,
making it more difficult for us to live, thrive, and

(02:11:56):
survive in the city. So what has that got to
do with Jade Evans literally nothing head line from Scott
Warman in the Inquire in Cincinnati. Jd Vance's half brother
hopes for a political earthquake in mayoral race. That's the headline.
Didn't we put Corey Bowman in the headline this time around?
The Republican Kennedy mentions wins through Presidia since Nat Mayor

(02:12:16):
happens to be Vice President jd Vance's half brother. And
then two paragraphs into the article he finally mentions Corey
Bowman and not the only time he mentions jd Vance's
half brother. I think he's brought up three or four
times in the article. And of course the article concludes

(02:12:38):
making the point again to the extent you didn't get
it from the headline or in the body of reporting.
There it is at the close. But it's Bowman's family
that has drawn much of the attention. His half brother
is Vice President jd Vance. That sentence, well, the beginning
of my favorite hour radio we get to hear from

(02:12:58):
Congress Omon by judging Paula Tis right now, jus tractor
gave him the heads up that conclude you'd be on
the program right now. Welcome back, my friends. Do you
think that's been the dominant subject matter.

Speaker 5 (02:13:10):
Scott, Great, To be honest, I'd rather be in DC,
but Speaker Johnston doesn't want us to come back.

Speaker 3 (02:13:17):
Yeah, I I you'd rather be in DC. You're not
in d C, which you anticipated one of what was
going to be one of my questions about this shutdown. Yes,
we're in the middle of a shutdown. No, the Democrats
will not agree to continuing to operate at the levels
that they created last year. It's the Biden level spending
that the Republicans passed over your objection, and I understand
that with the continuing resolution. Uh, they can't complain about

(02:13:41):
cuts the government anything. They're just trying to keep it
open and keep us hostage, although none of my listening
audience feels hostage. Congressman Massy the oldest hostage. So they
can continue COVID era premium supplements under Obamacare, I mean
COVID's over. They put the deadline of December of twenty
twenty five in the legislation extending these benefits. They knew

(02:14:01):
this was coming, obviously, this is a pretext shutdown for
them to continue along the path of bringing us basically
medicaid for all under the Obamacare umbrella. Am I on
the right path Congress from messy?

Speaker 2 (02:14:14):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (02:14:16):
Let me back up before we unpack all of that. So,
not only are we in a shutdown, we're in a recess.
And this is interesting because usually during a shutdown, Congress
is in session.

Speaker 3 (02:14:27):
There you go.

Speaker 5 (02:14:28):
But the Speaker, Johnson has decided politically it's better for
us not to be in town now. He says, the
reason is he doesn't want the Democrats doing dilatory things
on the floor, maybe making motions or whatnot. But the
reality is, if he were to call us back today,
he would have to swear in the two hundred and

(02:14:49):
eighteenth signature on my Epstein petition and we could force
a vote on releasing the Epstein file.

Speaker 2 (02:14:57):
What is that?

Speaker 3 (02:14:57):
What this is about?

Speaker 5 (02:15:00):
This is I'm calling it. Okay, it may be the
Schumer shut down, but it's the Epstein recess, is what
it is.

Speaker 3 (02:15:09):
But wait to say. Okay, we're gonna get dive into
more of the details on this one. But my question
to you is going to be, and I just was
putting the recess reality in the back of my mind.
If you if the government shut down, that doesn't stop
you or the Senate from working on the twelve appropriations bills,
which is the reason you're doing the CR to keep
the government open until the middle of November, because the

(02:15:30):
way we're doing it right now, it's going to be
shut down up until the deadline that's in the CR.

Speaker 5 (02:15:37):
You can't open the government back down if Congress shut
it down, and Congress is not in session. So it's
I mean, I understand, I understand his excuse, but I
think it's it's just an excuse, and I think we
should be in Washington, d C. In the event that
the Senate does come to some agreement, then the House

(02:15:58):
could act immediately. But he's trying to basically jam the
Senate because the House already passed the CR, and then
the Senate's sitting there and they're just having new votes
on that same CR to try to get more Democrats
to fold. People ask me when will the shutdown end,
and I will tell you it ends the way it

(02:16:19):
always ends. It ends when one side's polling shows that
they're taking a butt whipping in public opinion and then
they come to the table and.

Speaker 3 (02:16:32):
Give in.

Speaker 5 (02:16:33):
So right now, neither side has a clear indication that
they're losing. The messaging war, So we're going to be
in a shutdown for a while. I believe the next
big milestone is the middle of this month, which is
when government employees that get paid five monthly twice a month.

(02:16:55):
That is going to be the big show down there now,
most not well a majority of government workers are probably Democrats.
I know a lot of good Republicans who work for
the government, but I would say a majority of them,
especially in DC, are Democrats. So the interesting thing is
going to be what they don't get their next paycheck. Now,

(02:17:16):
the reality is, I don't mean to sound callous or
to diminish this, but the credit unions will give anybody
who's a member of the credit union at advance on
their paycheck because they know that I'm talking about the
Federal credit union right, because they know they're going to
get paid. There's never the employees who are whether they're

(02:17:38):
essential or non essential, they will all get paid when
the shutdown is over. That's the way it's been with
every shutdown. And knowing that the federal credit unions will
give the paycheck to any federal employee advance it without interest.

Speaker 3 (02:17:55):
It's a safe risk.

Speaker 5 (02:17:56):
But yeah, but it still makes it's still going to
be and not everybody's in a credit union, and it's
still going to make a talking point on the fifteenth
this month when they don't get paid. But in the meantime,
let me remind everybody what is on the table. The
Republicans thought they could avoid a shutdown by completely surrendering. Okay,

(02:18:19):
they just passed Joe Biden's budget. That's exactly penny for penny.
It's Joe Biden's budget, line for line, that's what the
House representatives put on the floor. I didn't vote for it,
and one other Republican did not vote for it, but
it's still passed the House. It went to the Senate,
and ironically, you have people Republicans who didn't vote for

(02:18:39):
it when it was under when Joe Biden was president,
but now that Donald Trump is president, they're voting for
Joe Biden's budgets. I'm literally one of the only members
of Congress who hasn't flipped their vote on this. It
used to be the other vote right round.

Speaker 3 (02:18:57):
Because you're a you're a fiscal hau and of course
the constitutional purists, and those are reasons why you wouldn't
want to extend Joe Biden's level funding. And I understand
that all day long. But from a strategy standpoint, ignoring
the de side that you and I are both on,
it does make sense to keep that Biden level because
that satisfied the Democrats last year. And that's a wonderful

(02:19:18):
talking point when you're trying to counter their oh my god,
we're all going to die narrative that goes along with
this shutdown in the Republican cr.

Speaker 5 (02:19:27):
And let me tell you something, just to be completely
intellectually honest, Joe Biden's budget because of Joe Biden's inflation.
If you do the same thing dollar for dollar, it's
going to be about five percent less than it was
last year because of inflation. But and so you might say, well,
then Congress and Matthew, why wouldn't you be inclined to

(02:19:50):
vote for Joe Biden's spending levels since inflation will reduce
this and solve the budget problem for you. Well, there's
two reasons.

Speaker 2 (02:19:58):
One.

Speaker 5 (02:19:58):
Spending is policy. It's it's not that we've spent one
point five trillion under Joe Biden and we're going to
spend one point five trillion under Trump. It's that every
line item in there is exactly the same, including the
things that we cut out in DOGE. Now, the DOGE
cuts were only temporary, So what happens if Joe Biden's
budget passes again, All of the stuff we cut out

(02:20:21):
using DOGE goes back into the budget.

Speaker 6 (02:20:24):
So and then the.

Speaker 5 (02:20:25):
DEI stuff, that's all that's all going to be in there.
So it's number one. Spending is policy when you do
it line by line. If you said, well, Trump will
spend exactly the same amount, diminished by inflation, but we'll
move it around to different priorities, I might be able
to get behind that. Now here's the other reason I'm

(02:20:46):
not for Joe Biden's budget minus the five percent inflation
because in the Big Beautiful Bill, which was supposed to
only deal with mandatory spending, they added about four hundred
billion dollars of discretionary spending. So they put appropriations in
the Big Bill a few months ago on DOJ that's

(02:21:09):
Department of Justice, Department of Homeland Security, and Department of Defense.
So they the Republicans have already plussed up spending. So
that even if we passed Joe Biden's budget, which is
what Mike Johnson wants to do, and John dune. Even
if we passed Joe Biden's budget, and even if we
can account for inflation diminishing those dollar values, they've already

(02:21:32):
plussed up the budget a few months ago, and that's
really what they won't tell you on the news. That's
why the Democrats are mad. They didn't get a plus
up in their line items. And the usual deal wink wink,
nod nod in Washington, DC is Republicans increased their spending
and Democrats increased their spending, and that's how you get
to sixty votes in the Senate. So that's why they're

(02:21:52):
not voting for it. And then they're making up these
other medical things. Those aren't fights. If the stuff expires
into December, then that's when you have the fight in December.
They're also trying to undo the fraud fixes that we
put in the big beautiful bill to keep illegals from
getting Medicaid and whatnot. The Democrats are trying to take

(02:22:14):
that back out. But that's not the fight that you're
supposed to have on these appropriations bills. This should be
only the twelve spending bills, and you're right, we should
be back in Washington working on them.

Speaker 3 (02:22:24):
And where they'll have another opportunity to do whatever the
hell they want by way of policy or extending supplements
for people who otherwise don't need it. Let's pause. Bring
Congressman Thomas Massey back at eight fifteen, right now fifty
five Kerr CD talk Ryan Thomas and Congressman Thomas Massey.

Speaker 2 (02:22:42):
Congress A.

Speaker 3 (02:22:42):
Massy, you suggested, and I think at the foregone conclusion
you are ultimately going to get your vote on the
Epstein file release. And I always like to use this
opportunity as a time to express my dismay that Trump
did a one to eighty. I mean, he campaigned on
releasing the stuff. A lot of Republicans were demanding it
during the Biden administration, Democrats and bother pushing to release
the documents when they had the opportunity to do so.

(02:23:04):
But now they're clamoring to do it. I don't know
what changed. Honestly, no one brings it up anymore except
you this morning, for example. But once the government shutdown
is over and people return to work and the recess
is over, there's going to be a vote, right.

Speaker 5 (02:23:20):
Yeah, And the government shutdown doesn't have to be over.
This is an act of Congress that doesn't require funding.
We can go back into session, and as soon as
we do, there's a congresswoman named Grihalva who won her
election two weeks ago who hasn't been sworn in. This
is also unprecedented, spigious thing that we're not in. But

(02:23:44):
the reality is we have these pro format sessions every
four days to keep the House and the Senate from
going into recess, ironically, to keep President Trump from making
recess appointments. I don't agree with it, but that's what
they do. Every four days they meet, and they could
swear this congresswoman in on one of these recess appointments,
because they did that with two Republicans already this year,

(02:24:05):
but the Speaker's not doing it. So as soon as
we get back now, this is what I'm telling you
is predicated on an assumption that none of my three
Republican co signers can be flipped by the White House,
because the White House is trying desperately to get either
Marjorie Taylor Green, Nancy Mace, or Lauren Bobert to take

(02:24:27):
their names off of my petition. But should they succeed
in getting one of those women to take their names
off the petition, there's another congressperson who will be elected
in November who will be signing the discharge petition. So
I don't know why they keep dragging this out, whether

(02:24:48):
they just keep fighting to the bitter end. We should
have the vote. They can try to stop me in
the Senate, but they do. Here's the thing, Briant, they
don't even want to have the vote.

Speaker 3 (02:25:01):
Well, lots of red flags waved over that one. Just
I mean, that just fuels the conspiracy theory narrative out there.
And who are we protecting on this?

Speaker 5 (02:25:11):
Good? Good question, good question. So the victims' lawyers have
indicated to me they are at least twenty men who
Epstein trafficked women to that they gave the names to
the FBI, and the FBI recorded them, memorialized that in
there three h two forms. So we know that the

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FBI has at least twenty names. I think six of
them are billionaires, one of them is a movie producer,
one is a former politician, one is a current person
in government, one's a CEO. Like I don't know their names,
but these are the indication that the victims lawyers have
given to me and the reason they don't put out

(02:25:53):
the names is they would be sued into homelessness for defamation.
The government doesn't pursue any of this if they can't,
you get any of the evidence out there, and the
government's in possession of it. So the government needs to
release their names. But here's what I know. I know
the President is trying to protect some top Republican donors
and friends of his in West Palm Beach and I

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will stand by that.

Speaker 6 (02:26:18):
And go to my grave on that.

Speaker 3 (02:26:20):
Well, that would explain it, wouldn't it. I mean that
it's not right, but it certainly would make sense as
to how he didn't why he did a one to eighty.

Speaker 5 (02:26:29):
And then the other question is, well if the president's
donors stand to lose in this White and Joe Biden
and the Democrats pursue this when they were in power, right, Well,
it's because once you get to the billionaire class, a
lot of these billionaires are just members of the UNI Party.
They give to whichever party's in power. Who's ever having

(02:26:50):
the best parties? How do you get to the Lincoln
Bedroom in the White House. So they give to both parties.
And I think you're going to see men implicated who
are friends and donors of both parties in this and
then also finally, this is the conspiracy theory, but there's

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a lot of weight to it. I introduced five documents
into the record in front of cash Battel a few
weeks ago in our judiciary hearing that indicate that Jeffrey
Epstein was working with National Intelligence MASAD and the CIA.
And I asked, I even asked cash Battel, have you
seen the CIA file on Jeffrey Epstein? He has not so,

(02:27:37):
and there is one. Now, why wouldn't he go look
at that?

Speaker 3 (02:27:42):
Good question?

Speaker 5 (02:27:42):
Well, you know he's allowed to go see that. You
can't keep the director of the FBI.

Speaker 3 (02:27:47):
So he looks at it, he's going to have to
answer your questions. He can just play ignorance. I don't
want to see it because then I'll have to Then
I'll say, yeah, I do know what's in there. Yeah,
that makes sense.

Speaker 5 (02:27:57):
I asked cash Battel, have you seen the three h
two form that the FBI filled out when they interviewed
the victims. He's not seen them. No, he's trusting. His
answer to me was he trusts that the people working
at the FBI would have given him those names if
they were credible evidence, and then my question is do
you not think the victims are credible? Let's the Speaker

(02:28:22):
of the House is trying to say that he's trying
to protect the victims, but my legislation would redact their
names in anything that could be used to identify them
out of the files, and the victims themselves support my legislation.

Speaker 3 (02:28:35):
Yeah, that's the big point right there. Yeah, he's making
an argument on their behalf that they don't want asserted. Wow, well,
welcome to government. No kid in Congress, Amassi. Let me
ask a simple, straightforward question, since Judge Enntan Andrew Napoltan
is up next and he's maybe listening but going to
be commenting on this is an opinion from the Office

(02:28:58):
of Legal Counsel within the Justice Department telling Donald Trump
that he is allowed to authorize deadly force use against
well cartels because they pose an imminent threat to Americans.
Does a boat fifteen hundred miles away a small boat
maybe goes fifteen to twenty knots? Is that an eminent
threat to the United States of America?

Speaker 5 (02:29:19):
I know somebody who worked in the Office of Legal
Council under Nixon, under Reagan and he's still alive, and
he's in DC, and he advises me, and he says
that department exists just to justify anything the president want.
This man's testified in front of Congress on Iran contra,

(02:29:40):
like he knows that the Office of Legal Council they
sit over there constructing scaffolding that can go, you know,
ten stories high, and it's built out of bamboo and
lashed together with very weak legal arguments, and they just
rely on Congress not challenging them.

Speaker 3 (02:29:58):
Well, that's kind of the answer I expected, Carson Thomas Massey.
I appreciate the time you spoke my listeners of me
providing some truth in a world where we desperately need
to keep up the great work. I'll look forward today
you return from recess and start working on the appropriation
Bill's Congressman Massy, I'll look forward to having you back
on the show real soon.

Speaker 6 (02:30:17):
Thank you, Brian.

Speaker 5 (02:30:18):
Say hi to the judge for me.

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(02:31:03):
to a victory last night. They're going I need a
couple more, but Judge Nap, it's next Chuck Ingram on
fifty five KARC the talk station.

Speaker 3 (02:31:15):
Eight thirty two if you have kr City Talk station.
Well at least it wasn't goofy or wacky. That was
a rather straightforward introduction. Welcome back to the fifty five
Cars Morning show, my friend judg Ennapolitano.

Speaker 7 (02:31:26):
Yes, yes it was, and I think if I have
this correct, A thirty eight year old Italian from New
Jersey will soon become the hero of the Cincinnati Bengals,
so I have that right.

Speaker 3 (02:31:42):
You may maybe collectively we've written off the CINCINNTI Bengals.
You're honor. I just it's like, you want to be optimistic,
but they give us no reason whatsoever to be optimistic.
So maybe there is an element in there that's optimism.

Speaker 2 (02:31:54):
I feel sorry for.

Speaker 7 (02:31:57):
Joe Burrow. He's such a talented kid, but he just
keeps getting hurt, I know, over and over again.

Speaker 3 (02:32:03):
Well that came up in conversation early in the program,
and I think we're blaming management, coaching staff, the owners
for maybe not adequately protecting Joe by Joe Burrow with
a reasonably competent offensive line. But you know, we'll see
how things play out over the long term, all right,
And I love your column. I don't know if you

(02:32:24):
heard me ask Congressom Massey about the Office of Legal
Counsel and Department of Justice giving Donald Trump the keys
to the American military when we face what he believes
to be an eminent threat Congress, and Massey just basically
said that that office is really designed to uphold literally
anything the White House wants to do, regardless of administration.
But I want to pause on that for a moment

(02:32:44):
and ask you about what I thought was really I
don't know, orwellian the fact that Donald did. Rather all
these elected officials, seven Senators and one member of the
House of Representative in this Arctic Frost investigation launched by
the FBI in connection with the January sixth riots, they

(02:33:04):
got their phone records. We've talked about this kind.

Speaker 7 (02:33:09):
They have nobody to blame but themselves, right because the statute,
the Electronic Privacy so called Electronic Privacy Act, you know,
the name really is often the misnumber permits FBI agency
to get metadata. So it's who you called, when you called,
and how long you spoke. It's not the actual conversation.

(02:33:31):
I've been condemning this as a violation of the Fourth
Amendment since it was first inactive. This is enacted by
the Congress. They probably never imagined that it would happen
to them. That doesn't make it moral, and it doesn't
make it constitutional, but it does make it legal. And
to make it even worse, Brian, this does not require

(02:33:52):
a search warrant signed by a judge. It can be
done by one of two ways, the grand Jerry subpoena
and a good prosecutor can get a grand jury to
sapoena anything, or a national security letter chie what is
a national security letter Patriot Act? That's where one FBI
agent authorizes another FBI agent to issue a search warrant

(02:34:18):
on stored records at your lawyer's office, your doctor's office,
your telecom, your computer server. Witherson that I don't blame
is and I frequently disagree with him. As Senator Holly,
he was outraged. He was not in the Senate when

(02:34:39):
this legislation was enacted, but almost everybody else on that
committee yesterday was in both parties. In fact, the chair
that's been in the center for thirty years was around
when the original legislation was enacted.

Speaker 3 (02:34:53):
I'm glad you framed it that way. I had a
student listener call and point out the exact same thing. Republicans,
anybody who voted for that. Nobody blamed for themselves for
the fact that it's being used against them in this
particular case. Question of whose ox is being gord I suppose.

Speaker 7 (02:35:08):
Right nobody's ox should be gored. They should follow the
Fourth Amendment. If Jack Smith had probable cause to believe
that there was evidence of a crime in a conversation
between I'm just going to use this hypothetically. I don't
know if the conversation happened Senator Josh Holly and President
Trump on January fifth or January sixth. He goes to

(02:35:28):
a federal judge, presents the evidence, and if the judge agrees,
he signs a search warrant. Short of that, not neither
Jack Smith nor any prosecutor, under any circumstances has the
right to surveil communications. But the Congress has butchered that
in a series of legislation, going back to legislative acts,

(02:35:48):
going back to be four nine to eleven. I believe
it or not, what left wing pinko creep signed the
first of these laws allowing the government to get your.

Speaker 3 (02:36:00):
Records George Bush right, Ronald.

Speaker 7 (02:36:03):
Ray, nineteen eighty six. So this stuff goes way back.
It was of course accelerated after nine to eleven. After
nine to eleven you have the Patriot Act and a
slew of amendments to it, every single one of which
makes surveillance without a search weren't easier. But the original
damage was done in nineteen eighty six under the so

(02:36:25):
called Bank Privacy Act, which gave the FEDS the right
to look at banking information. When you deposited more than
ten thousand dollars in one deposit, That's that's what opened
up these floodgates.

Speaker 3 (02:36:43):
And when you frame it that way, I just scratched
my head and wonder, why what possible mean? Well, what
cartels are using in drug dealers and brutalizing in those days.

Speaker 7 (02:36:54):
In those days, we were at the tail end of
the drug wars, which had destroyed the Fourth Amendment, And
fear of drug dealers is what animated Congress Post nine
to eleven. Of course, it is fear of terrorism, and
what is it now? Whatever Donald Trump says, it is

(02:37:15):
fear of immigrants, fear of narco terrorists, fear of whatever
you want to be afraid of. In terms of what
Congressman Massey said, I had an Internet problem on my
previous gig and I was not able to jump on.
Of course, I agree with everything he says. But the
Office of Legal Counsel was once the DOJ's lawyers. You'll
know the names of two people who in their younger

(02:37:38):
days ran the Office of Legal Counsel. One of them
is named William Rehnquist and the other is named antonin Scalia.
These were truly the brightest stars in the DOJ. They
told the DOJ the law as they understood it. They
were impervious to politics no longer today. I am die

(02:38:00):
to see this so called secret memorandum that she has.
How can analysis of a public law possibly be secret?

Speaker 3 (02:38:08):
I know I was going to ask you about that.
He's not going to reveal the memo to the general public,
even though CNN is widely reported on it. But eminent
threat isn't that a rather subjective measure when it comes
to determined whether they're going to use military force. And
I go back to the boats, he's blown up. I
don't like drugs. I don't want him in in the

(02:38:28):
United States. But you know that's what we have a
coastguard for. If they get close to us, then we
can pick him up in process.

Speaker 7 (02:38:35):
How could four guys in a speedboat fifteen hundred miles
from the US, unarmed or maybe with just small arms,
you know, handguns, possibly be considered an eminent threat to
the national security of the United States. The answer is
they can't, And even if they were an eminent threat,
it would make much more sense to arrest them, search

(02:38:59):
the boat if there's drugs there, seize the assets and
then engage in plean negotiations with one of them to
find out where the drugs came from and who their
sources are. There are ways to accomplish these goals without
murdering people.

Speaker 3 (02:39:18):
Yeah, no question about it. Go about the normal course
of business. Pick them up. They obviously can committed a crime. Look,
it's a drug, vote drug, it's a boat full of drugs.
That's against law. You're in our territory of waters. You're
going to be subject to prosecution anyhow. It's just troubling
from my perspective. And I worry you know, a lot
of my listeners. I think I hate drug dealers. I
don't care that they blew out. I don't care if

(02:39:39):
it violates constitution. Well I do, because somebody else is
going to be in office someday. Yeah, and they may
decide that some organization that we don't believe necessarily representing
them in the THREATSKA starts getting bombed because of their
political ideology or their geopolitical ideology or whatever have you.
It's so low a standard. And we're talking about America's
military here at minimum, and you and I I think

(02:40:00):
agree on this point. We don't believe authorizations for use
of military force quite cut the constitutional declaration of war standard.
But at least get Congress to agree with you and say, yes,
you're right, we stamp of approval authorize you some military
force because we believe this to be an eminent threat.
We can ask that out.

Speaker 7 (02:40:19):
Right right, it's very, very dangerous. I got a little
alarmist and hyperbolic at the end of my column saying
who are they going to shoot next? Drug dealers in Chicago?
But their logic for killing people before they commit crime
is the same logic we could out outside the territory

(02:40:42):
of warders of the United States. Is the same logic
that they could apply to people inside the United States.
By the way, how can it be a federal crime
even if they were carrying drugs from Caracas to some
island off the coast of Caracas. What this is u
of the federal government is that does federal law apply

(02:41:05):
everywhere on the planet.

Speaker 3 (02:41:08):
Don't tell them that they may get that idea, your honor,
and we'll start bombing targets all over the world without
with reckless abandon Judge Ennapolitano, logic. Reason is always on
the plate when we talk with you, and I appreciate
the willingness to come on the program every week and
have these great conversations.

Speaker 7 (02:41:23):
Ran Brian, It's my favorite morning and I love being
able to chat with you no matter what the Yankees
or the Reds or the Bengals, or I hate to
even mention this the football team New York Giants are doing.

Speaker 3 (02:41:38):
It was a strain for you to get those words
out real quick judging Freedom is Weather is Podcast. W
are you gonna be speaking with today, your honor.

Speaker 7 (02:41:45):
About eleven this morning Eastern I have the great Colonel
Douglas McGregor. Colonel McGregor and I spent a weekend together
giving this past weekend in a beautiful place in the
United States, Dallas, Texas, where we were well received by
the people to whom we spoke. But he's warning that
war whether Iran is imminent, and he's going to describe American,

(02:42:06):
not Israeli American preparations for that war. Does Iran pose
a threat to the national security of the United States?

Speaker 2 (02:42:15):
Not one bit?

Speaker 7 (02:42:18):
But we're getting ready.

Speaker 3 (02:42:19):
It's gonna be a fascinating conversation. If not trouble and
Judgenna polatonom until next Wednesday. God bless you sir, have
a great week.

Speaker 7 (02:42:25):
Thank you, Brian, all the best.

Speaker 3 (02:42:27):
Take care, my friend. It's a forty three right now.
If you have KS the talk station Gate of Heaven anyway,
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to listen to the Big Picture with Jack addid In
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we got through it. The Communist NFL which he was
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we get from Jack add In. Pretty amazing commentary as always,

(02:42:48):
Donovan Neil, a whole bunch of stuff you and I
can help with to make government work, and to make
government work dot com. Five specific bills are identified there,
like the rains and the Keep Government Open Act, and
they really would go a long long way to accomplish
some efficiency and getting rid of fraud, waste and abuse

(02:43:10):
in government. So action item right there for you and I.
Lincott fifty five Cares dot Com. Of course, Congressman Massi
on the shutdown and its connection maybe with the Epstein files. Wow,
red flag all over that, and of course Judge Jennnapolitano
fifty five Karroosee dot Comye Trhart Metia Ampire over there
as well. I started out the Morning show talking about
this it we have a choice here, flipped the natty,

(02:43:34):
says Corey Bowman. Corey Bowman running from Mary. He's a
pretty darn good guy, and I've talked to him a
whole bunch of times on the Morning Show, as you
know if you listen regularly, and not once, not once,
has he ever tried to hang his hand on the
fact that he is the half brother of jd Vance,
vice president of jd Vance's half brother, which is constantly,
constantly the drum beat from the media. He's got, really,

(02:43:58):
I mean, other than a partial Bloodlin connection. He's running
to serve the City of Cincinnati residents, and he's very
clear on that all residents. He's not springing from particularly
right wing perspective. He just realizes that we have priorities
in the city and keeping roads paved and cracking down
on crime, seeing that criminals are held accountable, to create

(02:44:21):
a better environment for you and me, cutting out all
the green new deal woke stuff that we can't afford,
even if it was it was going to do something,
And to anybody out there, that thinks that city taxpayer
money should go toward green projects. Ask yourself, what the
hell can the city of Cincinnati alone accomplish doing this.

(02:44:45):
They're not doing it Warren County, they're not doing in
Butler County. They're not doing it in Claremont County. They're
not doing it in Newport, they're not doing it in Covington.
I could go on, probably because maybe they don't have
the financial resources to accomplish some carbon neutrality exercise or
green energyduction exercise, but because maybe they practically say, gee, well,
we're all breathing the same air. It's one big globe

(02:45:05):
they are circulating and everything the entire country has done
the name of carbon or cutting back carbon dioxide aka
plant food hasn't done a wit to reduce the amount
of carbon dioxide in the environment, thanks to China and
India and Turkey and other very large producers of greenhouse gases,
which I personally believe. Carbon dioxide is a pllutant to

(02:45:28):
naturally occurring phenomenon. The plants need to live, so it
occurs in the natural environment. It's critical for the functioning
of the planet. So what in the hell is the
city getting involved with something that even if they achieve
their long term objectives and they could wave a flag
saying we're carbon neutral in Cincinnati, what's it going to

(02:45:49):
do for everybody in the world. Nothing so long winded
way of saying that's I think that's backcrap insanity from
the left. Do we want to allocate that as a priority.
I think that Corey Bowman would not. Well, wait till
after we get the roads fixed, Wait till after we
get these big projects over with, Wait till after we
get the crime situation ironed out, Wait till after we

(02:46:12):
bring more investments by lowering the regulatory burden and getting
things built and things accomplished. I mean, he's hit the
nail on the head of all the problems the city
has created, most notably created intentionally, I suppose, making it
more difficult for us to live, thrive, and survive in
the city. So what has that got to do with
Jade Vance? Literally nothing headlined from Scott Warman to the

(02:46:33):
Inquire in Cincinnati. Jd Vance's half brother hopes for a
political earthquake in mayoral race. That's the headline. Didn't we
put Corey Bowman in the headline this time around? The
Republican Kennedy mentions Winster of Precity Sincinnati Mayor happens to
be Vice President jd Vance's half brother, and then two

(02:46:54):
paragraphs into the article he finally mentions Corey Bowman, and
not the only time he mentions JD Vance's half brother.
I think it's brought up three or four times in
the article, and of course the article concludes making the
point again to the extent you didn't get it from
the headline or in the body of reporting. There it

(02:47:16):
is at the close. But it's Bowman's family that has
drawn much of the attention. His half brother is Vice
President jd Vance. That sentence the second last sentence in
the article. So we start with Jade Vance's half brother,
we have references to that throughout the body of the article,
and we conclude with that point. Why do you think

(02:47:41):
that's been the dominant subject matter? Scott W.