2 CPAs & The Mic

2 CPAs & The Mic

Welcome to "2 CPAs & The Mic," where we address the world of tax/accounting and business strategy without the jargon and stuffiness of the traditional CPA suits and jargon. Join Child of the 80's, Jeff Frable, CPA & CGMA, and totally 90's chic, Sara Mays, CPA, with real world people on the "The Mic" to bring you episodes packed with insightful chats, inspiring tales, and a sprinkle of humor as they give it to you straight. Whether you're a business owner or tax/accounting professional from the ancient times of checkbooks, paper, and faxes or the new age, all-digital, all-virtual world, "2 CPAs & The Mic" is a delightful mix of experience and fresh vibes. We're here to provide you with valuable insights into tax/accounting and business strategy, wrapped in humor and engaging conversations. Come for the valued knowledge and stay for the engaging conversations and laughs—your go-to resource for everything tax/accounting and business strategy!

Episodes

August 7, 2025 51 mins

In episode 18 of 2 CPAs & The Mic, we sit down with Blake Postelwait, CPA, CVA, to discuss business valuation and the evolving landscape for professionals in public accounting. Blake shares his career journey from audit to industry and back, highlighting the “boomerang effect” that often draws individuals back to the cadence of firm life.

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What do you get when a love for sports collides with a passion for numbers? A game-changing approach to financial strategy for athletes and entertainers. In episode 17 of 2 CPAs & The Mic, Jeff and Sara are joined by teammate and fellow CCK Partner - Caleb Caldwell. Caleb has built a thriving niche serving high-profile clients—from college athletes navigating NIL deals to seasoned pros managing multi-stream income.

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In Episode 16 of 2 CPAs & The Mic, Jeff and Sara welcome a special guest, Clarence Fisher from Tulsa Internet Marketing Services. A trusted collaborator and friend of the show, Clarence offers creative and practical insights that our listeners are sure to app...

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In Episode 15 of 2 CPAs & The Mic, hosts Jeff Frable and Sara Mays chat with BreAnne Peters, Tax Team Leader at CCK Strategies, about her unexpected leap from clarinet performance major to tax professional. With her vibrant personality and unapologetically authentic style, BreAnne breaks the mold of the “typical accountant.” This episode dives...

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In this bonus episode of 2 CPAs & The Mic, hosts Jeff Frable and Sara Mays break down the newly signed “One Big Beautiful Bill” (OBBB) tax legislation, signed into law on July 4th. Described as a “Super Bowl” moment for tax professionals, this episode offers a high-level overview of the sweeping changes—without diving into the political weeds....

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In episode 14 of 2 CPAs & The Mic, hosts Jeff Frable and Sara Mays welcome Matt Granados, productivity coach and founder of Life Pulse. What began as a personal system Matt developed to manage his own life has since evolved into a transformative framework adopted by major corporations seeking...

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In episode 13 of 2 CPAs & The Mic, Jeff Frable and Sara Mays are joined by their CCK partner, IRS-savvy, Luann Rinowski, for a candid and insightful conversation about navigating the world of IRS representation. Luann shares how she stumbled into her niche—handling IRS audit. Her secret? Treating IRS agents like real people (with a healthy dose of professionalism).  Luann’s ...

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Starting a business is exciting.  Learn why selecting the right entity structure is important to ensure smooth operations and avoid any potential challenges down the road. In episode 12 of 2 CPAs & The Mic, hosts Jeff Frable and Sara Mays unpack the real-world implications of selecting a business entity. Whether you’re a brand-new entrepreneur...

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In episode 11 of “2 CPAs & The Mic,” Jeff Frable and Sara Mays sit down with ORU’s Athletic Director Tim Johnson to discuss how the introduction of NIL (Name, Image & Likeness) is changing the landscape of college athletics. Initially designed as a way for athletes to receive fair compensation, NIL has quickly evolved into what many now view as a form of “pay ...

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Borders become blurred in our connected world and small businesses can easily find themselves with international tax obligations without ...

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In episode 9 of “2 CPAs & The Mic,” hosts Jeff Frable and Sara Mays welcome fellow partner Kyna Leyva to discuss the reality of navigating a thriving family life and robust career. Kyna shares candid insights about how "work-life balance" is a misleading ...

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From college basketball to $70 million development deals, Matt Mardis has seen and done it all in the world of commercial real estate. 

In this enlightening and entertaining episode of 2 CPAs & The Mic, Jeff and Sara sit down with the seasoned brok...

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In episode 7 of "2 CPAs & The Mic," partners Jeff Frable and Sara Mays welcome Victoria Guerre, Director of Human Resources at CCK Strategies, for a candid and contemporary look at how HR is evolving in today's workplace.

Victoria shares stories and insights that redefine what Human Re...

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Doing your own taxes may seem like a smart way to save money—but it could be costing you more than you think. In episode 6 of “Two CPAs & the Mic,” hosts Jeff Frable and Sara Mays sit down with Jordan Tudor to unpack the hidden costs of DIY tax prep, from missed deductions and penalties to costly setup mistakes for new businesses. We also share exa...

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When rates rise, stress follows - and for small business owners, that can spell trouble. So, who's in your corner when things get tough? 

In this episode, Jeff and Sara sit down with Sean Kouplen, CEO and Chairman of Regent Bank, to unpack what rising interest rates, inflation, and regulatory shifts mean for small businesses - and why the relationship you have with your bank could make or break you in uncertain times. 

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In this episode, Jeff and Sara sit down with CCK partner Aaron Spoon to discuss the real concerns facing business decision-makers. They cover a range of topics, including rising interest rates, workforce challenges, estat...

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Welcome to the debut episode of 2 CPAs and The Mic!
In this debut episode, Jeff Frable and Sara Mays uncover what makes CCK Strategies different from your typical CPA firm. Spoiler alert: it’s not all spreadsheets and tax codes! 
Jeff and Sara share their journeys into the CPA world, the firm’s untraditional culture, and why this podcast exists - to make business tax planning, financial strategy, and accounting insights unintimidat...

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In Episode 3 of 2 CPAs and the Mic, hosts Jeff Frable and Sara Mays dive into the topic of CliftonStrengths , exploring what it is and how it can be utilized in business to enhance productivity, profitability, and team interactions. They are joined by Kristie Porter, a long-time team member at CCK, who shares her extensive experience and insights on the subject. Kristie discusses her diverse role at the firm, her journey with Clift...

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In Episode 2 of "Two CPA's in the Mic," hosts Jeff Fable and Sara Mays dive into the world of the CPA exam with their guest, Keith Wigner. They chat about how the exam has changed over the years and share their own experiences with the preparation journey. Keith, who has a pretty unique path to becoming a CPA, opens up about his background and the challenges he faced along the way.

The trio discusses their study strategies and the ...

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