4:13 Podcast with Jennifer Rothschild

You may know your love language—but what if you're speaking it with the wrong accent?

Dr. Gary Chapman has helped more than 150 million people discover their "love language," but knowing the language is just the beginning. That's because each love language has dialects! Miss the dialect, and even the right language can fall flat.

So today, Gary joins me to share why love so often gets lost in translation and how learning to speak t...

When you picture Heaven, what comes to mind? Harps, halos, pearly gates, and endless singing? If that's all Heaven is, it can seem quite disconnected from our lives today. But fortunately, Scripture paints a far richer and more relevant picture.

In this conversation, Pastor Philip De Courcy invites you to rethink everything you assume about eternity. Drawing deeply from God's Word, Philip answers big questions like…

What is Heaven—...

The practice of waking early to seek God in prayer is woven into the fabric of Scripture. But... what if you're not a morning person?

Oh friend, I get it! But whether you greet the sunrise with joy or hit snooze like it's your spiritual gift, today you'll be challenged to rethink what's possible with God.

Joining me on the 4:13 is author Tara Beth Leach who shares why mornings matter, how even night owls or those with busy schedule...

When Lysa TerKeurst experienced the painful, unwanted end of her nearly 30-year marriage, she found herself asking hard questions and searching Scripture for real answers. She didn't just need comfort—she needed clarity, truth, and a way forward.

On today's episode of the 4:13, Lysa shares the resource she wishes she had during that season and tackles some of the most difficult questions many women quietly carry: Does God hate divo...

Do you ever feel let down in your daily experience as a Christian? You're not alone. Pastor and bestselling author Gary Thomas understands that frustration—which he says often comes from believing lies we don't even realize we've embraced.

Today on the 4:13, Gary unpacks the subtle deceptions that quietly shape our expectations, steal our joy, and keep us from the abundant life God promises. He reveals 12 common lies many Christian...

You may know Nicole C. Mullen as an incredible singer-songwriter, but did you know she's also a certified Bible nerd? That's right! And she not only knows the Word, but she can teach it too, bringing it to life in a powerful, practical way.

So today on the 4:13, Nicole takes us into Scripture to remind us that it's never wrong to do the right thing—even when it's difficult or costly.

Because, let's be honest, none of us are perfect...

Before we rush into the new year, KC and I are taking a moment to look back on 2025 — the fun moments, the hard moments, the lessons learned (and unlearned), and the ways God has faithfully carried us through it all.

We hope this conversation inspires you to reflect on your own year, celebrate what God has done, and step forward with expectancy for all He has ahead.

Happy New Year! 🎉

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This is a very merry episode of the 4:13 Podcast today because … it's Christmas, and we want to sprinkle a little extra joy into your celebration! 

We're talking about the wonder and joy of Christmas—but also the mess of Christmas, because let's be real, it can get a little messy, right? So, we'll laugh together, share a few stories, and remind your heart that Jesus shows up right in the middle of the mess to bring you hope and pea...

We are deeply relational people, longing to be connected and known. That's how we were created! Yet despite having endless ways to connect these days, loneliness is on the rise.

So today on the 4:13, author Alli Patterson addresses the loneliness epidemic and breaks down how you can build relationships that actually nourish your soul! But here's the best part… 

Alli went straight to God's Word to learn what the Gospels reveal about...

Are you feeling overwhelmed by out-of-control thoughts, consuming worry, or the nagging weight of guilt? Well, I've got good news: Your thoughts don't have to control your life! Instead, you can tame those thoughts, and here to help you do it is "America's Pastor," Max Lucado.

Through Scripture and biblical wisdom, Max will teach you how to renew your mind and change your thinking—one thought at a time. He...

When life gets hard—really hard—it can be tempting to throw in the towel. But today you're going to hear an incredibly powerful testimony of why you shouldn't. 

Pastor Shawn Johnson talks about how he received a devastating brain disease diagnosis that left him wrestling with despair, doubt, and the desire to give up on everything, including his faith and his future. But through vulnerability, community, a...

Thanksgiving may come once a year, but thankfulness is for every day. So in this special edition of the 4:13, we're looking at what Scripture says about cultivating an attitude of gratitude—not just today, but always!

We hope you'll meditate on these verses and let them shape your perspective—no matter what season you're in—because there's an abundance of joy that comes from a heart full of gratitude!

So, while you're in the kitche...

Empathy is often misunderstood, even maligned. But the truth is—it's one of the most powerful ways to experience healthier emotions and stronger relationships. True empathy isn't about coddling or rescuing; it's about understanding and care that respects God's truth and empowers personal responsibility.

Today on the 4:13, Bill and Kristi Gaultiere share biblical and psychological insights into what empathy really is. You'll discove...

People are hurting on a scale we've never seen before. They're dealing with an onslaught of issues like anxiety, grief, mental health struggles, and family troubles. Pastors and counselors want to help, but they've become inundated and can't meet every need.

It's a crisis that's expected to only become worse.

But what if the church stepped in? What if the body of Christ could bring healing to the hurting and take a load off of the ...

When you've been hurt or let down, or when you've failed over and over, it's easy to be way too hard on yourself and others. Maybe you've struggled to forgive yourself if you've blown it, or you can't forgive others if they have. 

But my friend, there's hope! The gospel is anchored in grace, which means you can forgive others AND be gentle with yourself.

Today on the 4:13, author and pastor Micah E. Davis will reframe your understa...

Do you ever feel like the problems in our world are just too big for you to make a difference? 

Well, today on the 4:13, former Ohio governor and presidential candidate John Kasich will tell you why that's simply not true! Drawing from his own faith journey and years of public service, John shares how faith communities have incredible potential to bring hope and healing—even in a divided culture.

Through real-life stories and pract...

Do you ever feel paralyzed when making decisions—especially when it's one that's really important? You just want to be sure you're making the right choice. But how do you know? And what if you're wrong?

Oh friend, I get it! Decision-making can be overwhelming, especially when paired with lots of uncertainty. But today, you're going to learn that you can make faithful, God-honoring decisions, regardless of how high the stakes.

Autho...

Have you ever wrestled with doubt and wondered if it meant your faith was slipping away? You're not alone! When we find ourselves torn between faith and uncertainty, it's easy to feel disappointed, disillusioned, and distant from God. 

But what if doubt isn't a threat to your faith? What if it's an invitation to a deeper relationship with God?

Today on the 4:13, Niki Hardy will help you shift your perspective on doubt. She'll invit...

Does it ever seem like your thoughts have a mind of their own? Persistent negative thinking, anxiety spirals, or lingering offenses can quickly take over if you don't know how to stop them. But here's the good news—you can take control of your thoughts, and God has already given you the tools to do it.

Pastor Kyle Idleman joins me on the 4:13 and shares how brain science and Scripture agree that we must pause and think about what w...