4:13 Podcast with Jennifer Rothschild

Thanksgiving may come once a year, but thankfulness is for every day. So in this special edition of the 4:13, we're looking at what Scripture says about cultivating an attitude of gratitude—not just today, but always!

We hope you'll meditate on these verses and let them shape your perspective—no matter what season you're in—because there's an abundance of joy that comes from a heart full of gratitude!

So, while you're in the kitche...

Empathy is often misunderstood, even maligned. But the truth is—it's one of the most powerful ways to experience healthier emotions and stronger relationships. True empathy isn't about coddling or rescuing; it's about understanding and care that respects God's truth and empowers personal responsibility.

Today on the 4:13, Bill and Kristi Gaultiere share biblical and psychological insights into what empathy really is. You'll discove...

People are hurting on a scale we've never seen before. They're dealing with an onslaught of issues like anxiety, grief, mental health struggles, and family troubles. Pastors and counselors want to help, but they've become inundated and can't meet every need.

It's a crisis that's expected to only become worse.

But what if the church stepped in? What if the body of Christ could bring healing to the hurting and take a load off of the ...

When you've been hurt or let down, or when you've failed over and over, it's easy to be way too hard on yourself and others. Maybe you've struggled to forgive yourself if you've blown it, or you can't forgive others if they have. 

But my friend, there's hope! The gospel is anchored in grace, which means you can forgive others AND be gentle with yourself.

Today on the 4:13, author and pastor Micah E. Davis will reframe your understa...

Do you ever feel like the problems in our world are just too big for you to make a difference? 

Well, today on the 4:13, former Ohio governor and presidential candidate John Kasich will tell you why that's simply not true! Drawing from his own faith journey and years of public service, John shares how faith communities have incredible potential to bring hope and healing—even in a divided culture.

Through real-life stories and pract...

Do you ever feel paralyzed when making decisions—especially when it's one that's really important? You just want to be sure you're making the right choice. But how do you know? And what if you're wrong?

Oh friend, I get it! Decision-making can be overwhelming, especially when paired with lots of uncertainty. But today, you're going to learn that you can make faithful, God-honoring decisions, regardless of how high the stakes.

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Have you ever wrestled with doubt and wondered if it meant your faith was slipping away? You're not alone! When we find ourselves torn between faith and uncertainty, it's easy to feel disappointed, disillusioned, and distant from God. 

But what if doubt isn't a threat to your faith? What if it's an invitation to a deeper relationship with God?

Today on the 4:13, Niki Hardy will help you shift your perspective on doubt. She'll invit...

Does it ever seem like your thoughts have a mind of their own? Persistent negative thinking, anxiety spirals, or lingering offenses can quickly take over if you don't know how to stop them. But here's the good news—you can take control of your thoughts, and God has already given you the tools to do it.

Pastor Kyle Idleman joins me on the 4:13 and shares how brain science and Scripture agree that we must pause and think about what w...

Have you ever noticed that even when your body is still, your mind is still racing? Worry, distractions, and endless to-do lists often crowd out the quiet we long for—and can make prayer feel impossible. 

But what if there was a way to experience both peace in your mind and presence in prayer?

In this episode, author Jennifer Tucker invites us into the practice of meditation—Christian meditation where you focus on God's Word, becom...

In a world that's hyper-focused on hustle and productivity, many of us have been taught that our worth is tied to what we do. But what if being is more valuable than doing? 

Today on the 4:13, Dr. Saundra Dalton-Smith—physician, spiritual mentor, and coach—shares how to embrace a life rooted not in performance but in stillness, rest, and your God-given identity. With warmth and wisdom, she offers both scientific insight and biblica...

Life has a way of throwing us into seasons we never saw coming—career changes, shifting relationships, or even that vague sense that what used to work just doesn't anymore. In these moments, it's easy to feel disoriented, like success is slipping further and further out of reach. 

But what if these unsettling moments are actually fertile ground for something beautiful?

Today on the 4:13, Levi Lusko talks about how to navigate these...

Wouldn't you like to not only understand God's Word, but also let it transform you by the power of the Holy Spirit? Oh friend, me too! 

So today, we have Pastor Dan Jacobsen with us, and he is going to unpack how this is possible. But first, you should know there's something really special about this…

Years ago, Dan unearthed an unpublished manuscript tucked away in a dusty manila folder that belonged to his grandfather, the legend...

In the fast-paced, overly scheduled cadence of our culture, it can be hard to fit in Sabbath. But what if Sabbath isn't designed to fit into our busy lives? What if it's supposed to take over our lives?

Hebrew scholar and Old Testament professor Travis West is here to help you radically reimagine what it means to Sabbath! And contrary to popular belief, it's not just about taking a day off or creating a list of rules. It's about es...

Conflict. Division. Disagreements. Whether it's with a neighbor, a co-worker, a friend—or even a stranger—navigating relationships isn't always easy. Yet somehow, we're called to love our neighbor. 

But what does that even mean? And how does it show up when relationships are so complicated?

Well, on this episode of the 4:13, author and Bible teacher Jada Edwards will challenge you to rethink what love is. Because (Spoiler Alert!) w...

In a noisy, fast-paced world, quiet can feel out of reach—like it's a luxury reserved only for the super-spiritual, the ultra-disciplined, or those with endless free time. But quiet is, and always has been, at the heart of every single person, and it's essential to our spiritual life and growth.

So today on the 4:13, author Sarah Clarkson is back with a powerful reminder: quiet is not about the absence of noise or distraction—it's ...

Do you ever feel intimidated when reading the Bible on your own? You're not alone. Many of us want a deeper connection with God's Word but find ourselves relying on devotionals or simply reading for information, without letting it truly change us.

Well today, The Navigators' very own Bill Mowry will help you shift that mindset. 

He shares five powerful practices to help you encounter God every time you open the Bible. You'll love h...

We're all just trying to get through life in this messed-up world, and whether we realize it or not, we all go looking for a "fix" to help us cope with the pain, uncertainties, or difficulties we face. 

Sometimes those fixes seem harmless, and other times, they spiral into habits we can't break.

So, today on the 4:13, best-selling author, psychotherapist, and Enneagram expert Ian Morgan Cron will challenge the way you think about a...

Lots of believers have questions about the Holy Spirit—like who is He? And should I "feel" Him? Does the Holy Spirit show up today like He did in the Bible? And why do other believers seem to have a connection with the Holy Spirit, and I don't?

Well, if you've ever wondered these things, you're not alone—and you're in the right place.

Today on the 4:13, Margaret Feinberg will take you on a journey through Scripture—from the Old Tes...

Everyone longs for love—especially God's love—even if they don't realize it yet. So, why is it so hard to tell others about the love of God? 

For many of us, sharing the gospel can be intimidating! We often feel inadequate, afraid, or just unsure of what to say. But today, we're facing those fears head-on! 

Dr. Derwin Gray joins us on the 4:13 and teaches us how to share the gospel—without pressure, without fear, and without needin...