February 2, 2024 • 14 mins
In something of a sequel to our last episode, we discuss the USAPL’s new, much higher qualifying totals for the 2025 Raw Nationals. Obviously higher QTs mean fewer entries. That has the potential to reshape everything about the meet. Should national meets be open to a lot of lifters or just the top select few?
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(00:08):
Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to Friday'sepisode, where we take one question,
one topic from y'all. If youwant to get involved, good companydiscord dot
com. Not only do you getexclusives on apparel first looks, but a
like minded community were we're always chattingin there, but there's a tab where
you can ask us questions. Todaywe're on the hot topic of I guess
powerlifting federations, which is always goingon, but in particular, the USAPL
(00:29):
has been under the heat the microscopefor the last couple of weeks here one
because they opened nationals to qualifying totalsthat may or may not happen in the
future, and it was first come, first served, like always, whether
it's planned or not. Then itseemed like they opened or set a personal
(00:50):
invite to pros. I don't knowif that's because of the arguments that were
happening on how they moved about this, or if it was already planned that
way. But on top of that, to add the sandwich the cherry on
top, they put out their newqualifying totals for twenty twenty five and I'm
a little bit behind an information Again, we're not CNN News I don't have
all the data and stats. We'renot a powerlifting reporting podcast, but obviously
(01:14):
it's in our blood, So Idon't know what the twenty twenty four qualifying
totals are last time I checked.I obviously just like get a decent comparison
of my strength over the years versusthe qualifying total, and that's how I
kind of justify how they're moving inthe past. You know, twenty ten
to twenty fifteen, raw USAPL Nationalswas very very small, started graining a
(01:34):
lot of attraction in fourteen fifteen sixteenwith the likes of Omar esof Johnny Candido
and Barbara Gay and a bunch ofpeople started showing some love to some raw
natural powerlifting, and then the useof APL exploded with many other people contributing.
But at the time, you know, I could total with like a
push pull and qualify easily, andI was decently strong, you know,
(01:57):
looking at some of the totals atthe time, I probably finished in the
top five for many years. Butobviously this sport expanded, the talent pool
got bigger, people streamlined their training, took a more serious and now people
are crazy strong everywhere. You know, there's ninety kilo kids squatting eight hundred
pounds, which at the time wasuntested two seventy five level squads. You
know, so the game has comevery far in the last fifteen years,
(02:21):
but now the qualifying totals. Sothis year's the argument was that they're letting
anybody in this meet right the barndoors open. You don't even have to
have your total. You just haveto get up before you get in.
The to Nationals that you could apply, get into the meat, then qualify,
then get in, which is apipe dream for a lot of people.
You know a lot of people whoknows who got into the meat that
(02:43):
aren't even close to the total orwill hit it. And then it seemed
to fast forward to I might bewrong. I haven't had a chance to
look at the data because I literallysaw the new QTS this morning before we
podcasted, so I didn't get tocheck the data. Loosely, but on
a whim, I think the ninetykilo qualifying total is like a top ten
total at Nationals last year in twentytwenty three. I might be wrong there,
(03:06):
but a seventeen thirty total in theninety kilogram is insanely strong, might
even be top five, I don't. I don't know. So that seems
to obviously go from floodgates open tobuilding a damn you know, for a
drought freaking hoover damn. Yeah,what I'm I'm just looking at it at
a post for Pete Spence. Thelittle thing that was done comparing the twenty
(03:30):
twenty three qualifying totals and the twentytwenty five qualifying totals, and the percentage
changed that he is showing here isbetween three percent and seventeen percent increase.
Yeah, he has such a hugedifference. Three percent, all right,
that makes sense. Yeah, andthat's like low weight class women. Yeah,
seventeen percent for any weight class,Yeah, seventy six and I guess
(03:53):
that's that is six and a halffor women at seventeen percent increase. Yeah,
seventeen percent is probably not crazy aggressiveif they want to make USAPO national
smaller. But seventeen percent, yeah, maybe that's just maybe I'm behind in
my data because it seemed bigger thanthat, Like seventeen thirty at ninety kilos
is so insanely strong. Yeah,So then the ninety is a nine percent
(04:15):
increase for the men's nineties. Yeah, oh then, yeah, it's not
as big as I thought then,because I knew it was like in the
sixteens, fifteens. I mean,people are just getting stronger. I guess
then maybe my outrage is unjustified.I mean it is stronger, and I
know people are getting weird with it. Seventeen I mean seventeen pounds increase or
seventeen percent increase is pretty drastic.You know that audit obviously just cuts out.
(04:41):
It automatically cuts out seventeen percent,right unless unless though bottom half gets
seventeen percent stronger in a year,you're cutting out seventeen percent of people competing
in nationals. And maybe that istheir goal. Maybe I know they're trying
to up their pro series. Iknow they're trying to make regionals more important,
so maybe this is just a stepin that direction. So maybe overall
it is a good thing. Seventeenfifty eight is the nineties nineties. Yeah,
(05:06):
that's fucking strong man, that's veryvery high. Yeah, that's strong.
So yeah, if that is thegoal, which I don't mind.
I think nationals, and we've talkedabout on millions of podcasts over the time,
was too open door. Yeah,like it should mean something. When
you're a national level, it's thirty, twelve hundred and fifte hundred people.
Yeah, so if they want tomake that even more competitive than that,
(05:27):
I would say, fucking up atfifty percent. Only get the top ten
or twenty people there. If you'resupposed to be a national it's like the
Olympia, right, If you madeit to the Olympia as a bodybuilder,
you're the guy. You're top fifteenin the world, you're one of the
best. Yeah, it should meansomething to go to nationals, and then
you just have to work on usingyour resources and making regional meets cooler and
(05:48):
more important. Also, it's thefollow up. Yeah. I think however,
though, when you're cutting down thenumber of lifters, you're probably also
cutting into the number of people whoare going to pay us see it,
you know, potentially. Yeah,I think it's a balance, right.
Yeah, if you cut, inmy opinion, if you cut seventeen percent,
you're doing exactly what you said.You're just cutting away people to come
(06:09):
watch. But then I think ifyou cut enough and you make it the
super Bowl, now you're making itmore important. Yeah, well, then
maybe make it a pay per viewevent. Because you know what I mean,
only so many people are gonna comemaybe maybe for sure, But then
I think you then then it shouldbe competitive enough that it's more entertaining to
watch. Right Now, Nationals isn'tthat fun to watch until the prime time,
(06:30):
right because all these people are justfrom all over the map, Like
you said, like two thousand peoplecompete that weekend. But if you make
it very consolidated and it is thebest of the best of the best going
head to head, now, yeah, it might be more online viewers than
in person, but then you canuse your resources differently. You don't have
to rent out a huge auditorium.You could rent out a cool little venue,
right, so you still have athousand people watching in person and then
(06:54):
more online because you put more resourcesinto X y Z. And obviously the
financial part makes it all a littlebit more difficult. But if you up
the regionals importance resources, the lookthe meat itself, how well it's run,
you can make the money there anduse some of those resources for hopefully
Nationals being important. I mean,that's what this like. The amount of
money that goes into the Super Bowlisn't always just made at the Super Bowl,
(07:15):
you know, it's made throughout theseason. You know, they use
the resources and the money and thehype in the marketing to build up the
super Bowl like the straight you know, profit loss on just the super Bowl.
I mean, the super Bowl isobviously a bad, not the best
analogy because it's the event of thefucking world. But you'd imagine the NFL
as a whole looks at the profitand loss from the entire playoffs, not
(07:39):
just the super Bowl. I guesssee what I'm getting at. Well,
I guess too. It depends onwhat kind of sport you think you have,
because you don't have to Let let'slook at the World Strongest Man.
You don't have to personally know thosepeople. You just have to be a
fan of the sport and how andhow it plays out. Whereas a big
national powerlifting meat, if you wanta lot of people to attend, you
(08:01):
have to have a lot of peopleparticipating powerliftings, always in their friends or
whatever, and only the very toppeople are going to have fans who come
there just to see them. Yeah, and that is going to be a
more limited number. Powerlifting has justalways been that way. The only people
that watch powerlifting have competed in powerlifting, yeah, probably ninety eight percent,
where there's tons of people that enjoywatching strongmen that have never lifted a stone
(08:24):
in their life, right, Basketball, same thing, Baseball, football obviously
been that way. Maybe you playedwhen you were younger or whatever, but
a lot of people enjoy those sportsthat aren't active in that sport, where
the vast majority of people that watcha powerlifting meet in person or online are
currently competing in the sport. It'sjust that way, and I do agree,
(08:45):
and so the balance is fine.But if you want to, you
know, escalate what it means tobe a national lifter, I guess this
is step one, but it hasto have the follow up of being more
special to be there, whether that'smoney, whether that's opportunity. And then
you have to have the other branchesof the tournament, whether it be a
state meet to a regional meet toa national meat means something and have and
(09:07):
have something real. I mean evenstate meets they've been a joke forever,
Like, they have to be wellplanned, they have to be built,
they have to feel special, havea qualifier for that. They don't have
a qualifier for regionals. They don't. So you have to build and we've
said this literally since we podcast fortwenty goddamn years, that you have to
have some kind of That's what CrossFitdid so great. Yeah, you did
(09:28):
a cool online one that was hardand you had to qualify. Everybody could
do anybody can do, but yougot to be like top one hundred and
two hundred. Now you go toregionals. Now you have to be top
ten. Then you go to thegames, and you gotta obviously be podium
to win money. Like all thatmakes so much sense. Every other fucking
support of the planet does it.Obviously, that's even the college football which
would never built that way, evenwent to that model because it just makes
(09:48):
so much more sense to have areal tournament style. So if they want
to do something like that, andthen they obviously have the money, they
obviously have the participants for now untilPowerlifting America comes across and starts whooping your
ass, which may happen so theyI know it's hard to organize these things,
but this isn't territory that's never beendone. Sports have been done forever,
individual sports, wrestling, track andfield have been done forever, and
(10:11):
they've made way more sleek ways toget there. So you gotta get your
act together quick because the competition inthe natural powerlifting world is growing with powerlifting
America. So I don't care oneway or the other. I don't.
I wish the sport was less split, and it probably is less split than
it used to be. Right.We used to have twenty federations that were
semi legit, and now we havelike three. Yeah, there are definitely
(10:33):
Yeah, so that's kind of cool, I guess in the broad scope of
things, but we still need totighten that up in my opinion. No,
I agree, But basically we're talkingabout a fundamental restructuring of the way
top level powerlifting competition runs. Andare they prepared for that? I don't
know. Yeah, I don't knoweither because don't know because like I see
them that I mean, unless thisregional structure builds out the way you know
(10:58):
they would, they want to themtaking in significantly less money and they're already
not doing much for for athletes.Yeah, they do nothing for the athlete.
Yeah, there's nothing done, there'sno opportunity, there's no marketing to
build it up. They've done alittle bit better over the last year,
but I mean that's what Why isthe UFC. The UFC because Dana White's
the best marketer in the world.He's the best character builder in the world.
He's the best superstar builder in theworld. NFL and NBA and MLB
(11:20):
are really good at it, butUFC is literally the only reason. And
I think he learned from Vince McMahon. Yeah, Vince bicmahon watching, Yeah,
superstar builder, even though he's hejust down to a giant. Yeah
he's in the hot suit, butbut yeah, he's talented at marketing.
And that's all it is. Andso if and again, it's not like
these things have never been done anywhere, right, we have, you have
models to follow after, and verysports is out there. For sure,
(11:41):
every fucking sport MMA, jiu jitsuis doing better at it the powerlifting,
and jiu jitsu is probably the bestconnection to powerlifting we have in terms of
a sport being so niche a lotof people that watch jiu jitsu do jiu
jitsu. Yeah, I mean,there's ways to do it. And I
don't know what that organization because I'venever died to dove into the politics of
(12:01):
the USAPL and I never will andI don't care. But I don't know
how they're organized, but someone shouldtry to get their shit together because yeah,
again, Powerlift America's coming strong.It seems like with their talent pool
moving over. Yeah, with atalent pool, they I don't think that
they have anything like the infrastructure nowbecause they don't even have qualifying totals.
Yeah, you just have to competein Powerlifting America to go to QTS.
(12:22):
But that'll switch quick. And Idon't know who to run in that world
either, but I'm I'm assuming they'rethey're they're preparing for the storm because they're
going to get a lot more peoplein their meets in twenty twenty five.
Yeah, I mean, there's gotto be some kind of changing of the
guard at some point within the thepower structure of the of the USAPL and
(12:43):
and probably what they should do,if they're being fair, is to say,
the best thing for our for athletesin our sport is to be able
to compete on a national level,and we're not going to provide that the
same way that an IPF affiliate.They just don't and just and either become
(13:03):
just a bunch of regionals or orjust step out all together and seed it
to powerless doing America. That soundsvery drastic in people who are you know
you s APL diehards are not goingto like that message, but I think
that I think it's inevitable. Ithink there's very few real USAPL diehards.
They'll act like it, but likepeople that act that, we have been
in the sport for three years.Yeah, you know, so yeah,
(13:26):
changing the guard may happen, maynot. We'll see what happens. We
may be there, may not.I think I've be signed up. I
think it's in Utah. So yeah, maybe we'll see you there, and
maybe we won't. And we willsee what happens over the next couple of
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Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to Friday'sepisode, where we take one question,
one topic from y'all. If youwant to get involved, good companydiscord dot
com. Not only do you getexclusives on apparel first looks, but a
like minded community were we're always chattingin there, but there's a tab where
you can ask us questions. Todaywe're on the hot topic of I guess
powerlifting federations, which is always goingon, but in particular, the USAPL
(00:29):
has been under the heat the microscopefor the last couple of weeks here one
because they opened nationals to qualifying totalsthat may or may not happen in the
future, and it was first come, first served, like always, whether
it's planned or not. Then itseemed like they opened or set a personal
(00:50):
invite to pros. I don't knowif that's because of the arguments that were
happening on how they moved about this, or if it was already planned that
way. But on top of that, to add the sandwich the cherry on
top, they put out their newqualifying totals for twenty twenty five and I'm
a little bit behind an information Again, we're not CNN News I don't have
all the data and stats. We'renot a powerlifting reporting podcast, but obviously
(01:14):
it's in our blood, So Idon't know what the twenty twenty four qualifying
totals are last time I checked.I obviously just like get a decent comparison
of my strength over the years versusthe qualifying total, and that's how I
kind of justify how they're moving inthe past. You know, twenty ten
to twenty fifteen, raw USAPL Nationalswas very very small, started graining a
(01:34):
lot of attraction in fourteen fifteen sixteenwith the likes of Omar esof Johnny Candido
and Barbara Gay and a bunch ofpeople started showing some love to some raw
natural powerlifting, and then the useof APL exploded with many other people contributing.
But at the time, you know, I could total with like a
push pull and qualify easily, andI was decently strong, you know,
(01:57):
looking at some of the totals atthe time, I probably finished in the
top five for many years. Butobviously this sport expanded, the talent pool
got bigger, people streamlined their training, took a more serious and now people
are crazy strong everywhere. You know, there's ninety kilo kids squatting eight hundred
pounds, which at the time wasuntested two seventy five level squads. You
know, so the game has comevery far in the last fifteen years,
(02:21):
but now the qualifying totals. Sothis year's the argument was that they're letting
anybody in this meet right the barndoors open. You don't even have to
have your total. You just haveto get up before you get in.
The to Nationals that you could apply, get into the meat, then qualify,
then get in, which is apipe dream for a lot of people.
You know a lot of people whoknows who got into the meat that
(02:43):
aren't even close to the total orwill hit it. And then it seemed
to fast forward to I might bewrong. I haven't had a chance to
look at the data because I literallysaw the new QTS this morning before we
podcasted, so I didn't get tocheck the data. Loosely, but on
a whim, I think the ninetykilo qualifying total is like a top ten
total at Nationals last year in twentytwenty three. I might be wrong there,
(03:06):
but a seventeen thirty total in theninety kilogram is insanely strong, might
even be top five, I don't. I don't know. So that seems
to obviously go from floodgates open tobuilding a damn you know, for a
drought freaking hoover damn. Yeah,what I'm I'm just looking at it at
a post for Pete Spence. Thelittle thing that was done comparing the twenty
(03:30):
twenty three qualifying totals and the twentytwenty five qualifying totals, and the percentage
changed that he is showing here isbetween three percent and seventeen percent increase.
Yeah, he has such a hugedifference. Three percent, all right,
that makes sense. Yeah, andthat's like low weight class women. Yeah,
seventeen percent for any weight class,Yeah, seventy six and I guess
(03:53):
that's that is six and a halffor women at seventeen percent increase. Yeah,
seventeen percent is probably not crazy aggressiveif they want to make USAPO national
smaller. But seventeen percent, yeah, maybe that's just maybe I'm behind in
my data because it seemed bigger thanthat, Like seventeen thirty at ninety kilos
is so insanely strong. Yeah,So then the ninety is a nine percent
(04:15):
increase for the men's nineties. Yeah, oh then, yeah, it's not
as big as I thought then,because I knew it was like in the
sixteens, fifteens. I mean,people are just getting stronger. I guess
then maybe my outrage is unjustified.I mean it is stronger, and I
know people are getting weird with it. Seventeen I mean seventeen pounds increase or
seventeen percent increase is pretty drastic.You know that audit obviously just cuts out.
(04:41):
It automatically cuts out seventeen percent,right unless unless though bottom half gets
seventeen percent stronger in a year,you're cutting out seventeen percent of people competing
in nationals. And maybe that istheir goal. Maybe I know they're trying
to up their pro series. Iknow they're trying to make regionals more important,
so maybe this is just a stepin that direction. So maybe overall
it is a good thing. Seventeenfifty eight is the nineties nineties. Yeah,
(05:06):
that's fucking strong man, that's veryvery high. Yeah, that's strong.
So yeah, if that is thegoal, which I don't mind.
I think nationals, and we've talkedabout on millions of podcasts over the time,
was too open door. Yeah,like it should mean something. When
you're a national level, it's thirty, twelve hundred and fifte hundred people.
Yeah, so if they want tomake that even more competitive than that,
(05:27):
I would say, fucking up atfifty percent. Only get the top ten
or twenty people there. If you'resupposed to be a national it's like the
Olympia, right, If you madeit to the Olympia as a bodybuilder,
you're the guy. You're top fifteenin the world, you're one of the
best. Yeah, it should meansomething to go to nationals, and then
you just have to work on usingyour resources and making regional meets cooler and
(05:48):
more important. Also, it's thefollow up. Yeah. I think however,
though, when you're cutting down thenumber of lifters, you're probably also
cutting into the number of people whoare going to pay us see it,
you know, potentially. Yeah,I think it's a balance, right.
Yeah, if you cut, inmy opinion, if you cut seventeen percent,
you're doing exactly what you said.You're just cutting away people to come
(06:09):
watch. But then I think ifyou cut enough and you make it the
super Bowl, now you're making itmore important. Yeah, well, then
maybe make it a pay per viewevent. Because you know what I mean,
only so many people are gonna comemaybe maybe for sure, But then
I think you then then it shouldbe competitive enough that it's more entertaining to
watch. Right Now, Nationals isn'tthat fun to watch until the prime time,
(06:30):
right because all these people are justfrom all over the map, Like
you said, like two thousand peoplecompete that weekend. But if you make
it very consolidated and it is thebest of the best of the best going
head to head, now, yeah, it might be more online viewers than
in person, but then you canuse your resources differently. You don't have
to rent out a huge auditorium.You could rent out a cool little venue,
right, so you still have athousand people watching in person and then
(06:54):
more online because you put more resourcesinto X y Z. And obviously the
financial part makes it all a littlebit more difficult. But if you up
the regionals importance resources, the lookthe meat itself, how well it's run,
you can make the money there anduse some of those resources for hopefully
Nationals being important. I mean,that's what this like. The amount of
money that goes into the Super Bowlisn't always just made at the Super Bowl,
(07:15):
you know, it's made throughout theseason. You know, they use
the resources and the money and thehype in the marketing to build up the
super Bowl like the straight you know, profit loss on just the super Bowl.
I mean, the super Bowl isobviously a bad, not the best
analogy because it's the event of thefucking world. But you'd imagine the NFL
as a whole looks at the profitand loss from the entire playoffs, not
(07:39):
just the super Bowl. I guesssee what I'm getting at. Well,
I guess too. It depends onwhat kind of sport you think you have,
because you don't have to Let let'slook at the World Strongest Man.
You don't have to personally know thosepeople. You just have to be a
fan of the sport and how andhow it plays out. Whereas a big
national powerlifting meat, if you wanta lot of people to attend, you
(08:01):
have to have a lot of peopleparticipating powerliftings, always in their friends or
whatever, and only the very toppeople are going to have fans who come
there just to see them. Yeah, and that is going to be a
more limited number. Powerlifting has justalways been that way. The only people
that watch powerlifting have competed in powerlifting, yeah, probably ninety eight percent,
where there's tons of people that enjoywatching strongmen that have never lifted a stone
(08:24):
in their life, right, Basketball, same thing, Baseball, football obviously
been that way. Maybe you playedwhen you were younger or whatever, but
a lot of people enjoy those sportsthat aren't active in that sport, where
the vast majority of people that watcha powerlifting meet in person or online are
currently competing in the sport. It'sjust that way, and I do agree,
(08:45):
and so the balance is fine.But if you want to, you
know, escalate what it means tobe a national lifter, I guess this
is step one, but it hasto have the follow up of being more
special to be there, whether that'smoney, whether that's opportunity. And then
you have to have the other branchesof the tournament, whether it be a
state meet to a regional meet toa national meat means something and have and
(09:07):
have something real. I mean evenstate meets they've been a joke forever,
Like, they have to be wellplanned, they have to be built,
they have to feel special, havea qualifier for that. They don't have
a qualifier for regionals. They don't. So you have to build and we've
said this literally since we podcast fortwenty goddamn years, that you have to
have some kind of That's what CrossFitdid so great. Yeah, you did
(09:28):
a cool online one that was hardand you had to qualify. Everybody could
do anybody can do, but yougot to be like top one hundred and
two hundred. Now you go toregionals. Now you have to be top
ten. Then you go to thegames, and you gotta obviously be podium
to win money. Like all thatmakes so much sense. Every other fucking
support of the planet does it.Obviously, that's even the college football which
would never built that way, evenwent to that model because it just makes
(09:48):
so much more sense to have areal tournament style. So if they want
to do something like that, andthen they obviously have the money, they
obviously have the participants for now untilPowerlifting America comes across and starts whooping your
ass, which may happen so theyI know it's hard to organize these things,
but this isn't territory that's never beendone. Sports have been done forever,
individual sports, wrestling, track andfield have been done forever, and
(10:11):
they've made way more sleek ways toget there. So you gotta get your
act together quick because the competition inthe natural powerlifting world is growing with powerlifting
America. So I don't care oneway or the other. I don't.
I wish the sport was less split, and it probably is less split than
it used to be. Right.We used to have twenty federations that were
semi legit, and now we havelike three. Yeah, there are definitely
(10:33):
Yeah, so that's kind of cool, I guess in the broad scope of
things, but we still need totighten that up in my opinion. No,
I agree, But basically we're talkingabout a fundamental restructuring of the way
top level powerlifting competition runs. Andare they prepared for that? I don't
know. Yeah, I don't knoweither because don't know because like I see
them that I mean, unless thisregional structure builds out the way you know
(10:58):
they would, they want to themtaking in significantly less money and they're already
not doing much for for athletes.Yeah, they do nothing for the athlete.
Yeah, there's nothing done, there'sno opportunity, there's no marketing to
build it up. They've done alittle bit better over the last year,
but I mean that's what Why isthe UFC. The UFC because Dana White's
the best marketer in the world.He's the best character builder in the world.
He's the best superstar builder in theworld. NFL and NBA and MLB
(11:20):
are really good at it, butUFC is literally the only reason. And
I think he learned from Vince McMahon. Yeah, Vince bicmahon watching, Yeah,
superstar builder, even though he's hejust down to a giant. Yeah
he's in the hot suit, butbut yeah, he's talented at marketing.
And that's all it is. Andso if and again, it's not like
these things have never been done anywhere, right, we have, you have
models to follow after, and verysports is out there. For sure,
(11:41):
every fucking sport MMA, jiu jitsuis doing better at it the powerlifting,
and jiu jitsu is probably the bestconnection to powerlifting we have in terms of
a sport being so niche a lotof people that watch jiu jitsu do jiu
jitsu. Yeah, I mean,there's ways to do it. And I
don't know what that organization because I'venever died to dove into the politics of
(12:01):
the USAPL and I never will andI don't care. But I don't know
how they're organized, but someone shouldtry to get their shit together because yeah,
again, Powerlift America's coming strong.It seems like with their talent pool
moving over. Yeah, with atalent pool, they I don't think that
they have anything like the infrastructure nowbecause they don't even have qualifying totals.
Yeah, you just have to competein Powerlifting America to go to QTS.
(12:22):
But that'll switch quick. And Idon't know who to run in that world
either, but I'm I'm assuming they'rethey're they're preparing for the storm because they're
going to get a lot more peoplein their meets in twenty twenty five.
Yeah, I mean, there's gotto be some kind of changing of the
guard at some point within the thepower structure of the of the USAPL and
(12:43):
and probably what they should do,if they're being fair, is to say,
the best thing for our for athletesin our sport is to be able
to compete on a national level,and we're not going to provide that the
same way that an IPF affiliate.They just don't and just and either become
(13:03):
just a bunch of regionals or orjust step out all together and seed it
to powerless doing America. That soundsvery drastic in people who are you know
you s APL diehards are not goingto like that message, but I think
that I think it's inevitable. Ithink there's very few real USAPL diehards.
They'll act like it, but likepeople that act that, we have been
in the sport for three years.Yeah, you know, so yeah,
(13:26):
changing the guard may happen, maynot. We'll see what happens. We
may be there, may not.I think I've be signed up. I
think it's in Utah. So yeah, maybe we'll see you there, and
maybe we won't. And we willsee what happens over the next couple of
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