Court of Gold | Netflix Documentary | Olympic Basketball (2025) | A 50% Facts Review - 50% Facts with Silent Mike & Jim McD

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
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Speaker 3 (00:34):
Stars, Infinity Stars.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yes, the the the peak of cinematic experience with a
group of strangers endgame and game.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Yeah, I hype you experience. Oh dude, I have never
I mean I've I went. I went by myself in
an empty, empty place. That's when I was doing like
Tuesday ten ams myself.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
But I went. I went Opening Night first show, you know,
like the midnight show. Yeah, you know, with the Hype crew,
And it was like a Travis Scott concert you dress up. No,
but it was I mean, when that ship all goes
down at the end, like everybody was like literally losing
their mind. It was the craziest thing I've ever one
of the one of the things I'll remember for the

(01:22):
rest of my life.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Harry Potter was like that. I did a lot of
Midnight Harry Potter's.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
The thor Hammer with Captain America. Yeah, that was that scene.
I never felt like anything, Like I watched a trailer
of it the other day, like a cut, and I
hadn't seen it in a while, and it gave me goosebumps. Yeah,
me too, Me too.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
That's a difficult to top ever moment.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
It was perfect set up with that was like genius
Captain the Captain's my favorite. I'm sorry, just like the
new Captain.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Uh Falcon, No, no, no, he's fine, he's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Actually, But also like I liked Falcon though, Yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Like talking to I actually saw the other day that,
you know, because he was in eight Mile.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yeah, and he's been in a bunch of stuff.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
He's been a long time.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
And the rap battle that he has with Eminem, apparently
Eminem was not happy with the uh the lines that
were written for that rap battle for himself to deliver.
And he'd had a conversation with with what's his face

(02:29):
beforehand and Anthony Anthony Anthony something. Yeah, and the stuff
in his rap was actually personal to the actor, not
the not the character, which is why his reaction is
so uh so legit, so authentic.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
It makes sense he came after him. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
I mean even when eight Mile came out, Eminem was
like young, Like he wasn't that famous that long.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah, like like eight years.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
Yeah, which I know seems long, but in the scheme
of things, yeah, no, it was like like he still
got his Detroit roots in them.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
It was that was back in the day though, like
when you would get super famous for something and then
you go straight into.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Movies, right, or you disappear, right yeah, Britney Spears, all
of them went to movies, like a movie or two.
They also disappeared, like Brittany really had like I guess
she's a little bit longer. But like Backstreet Boys, all
this shit had like one album.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
The Backstreet Boys was because in Sync kind of just
like demolished that.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
But even then they had like three albums, you know,
like you versus like an m like you toured.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
The same songs for like five Well, actually didn't even
have tour that much back then now because you made
so much money on CDs and those.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Just a genre just didn't last that long, you know.
It turned edgy quick.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Anthony Mackie, By the way, Anthony Mackie, I did not
see that New Captain America. I mean either all watched it.
Like eventually, I tried to watch Kraken, What a Dog Pilot?
Shit that bad? I tried to or Craven cra Craven
the Hunter. I heard that was really really bad. I
tried to watch it. I was like, you know what,
you know, whatever, I'm gonna watch this and it's free,

(04:01):
it's f it's on Disney Plus or whatever, and I'm like,
I think it was Disney Plus something like that anyways,
and I'm like, oh, man, like this is just this
is just not good.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
The uh everyone says the new Captain is just lackluster.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
That's not bad.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Yeah, that's what everyone said. This should have been a series, Yeah,
it should have. It should have been a TV show,
should have been the second season of that TV shit.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
And that sucks though, right because then like.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
A Winter Soldier, which was great. I liked it. I
enjoyed it.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
But the only cool about part of those series is
if you're like adding to the lower.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah, there's no lawer anymore though, there's no there's no
big picture story.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
Everything's just kind of like hopefully with this doom Ship
it'll add back.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
I think it's complain I think it's time to move on.
What's next? The movies going Devil's Good though? Has that started? Then? Yeah?
I have to watch. I heard it's kind of dark, right, it's.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
Darker than the Netflix one. It's more violent than the
Netflix one too.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
I heard they said it's like the most violent thing
Disney is probably ever put out. Yeah, oh really, Yeah,
it's really good and or is kind of gnarly too though.
They murder people come and soon too. Season two. Dude,
I can't wait for that. I can't either. It's so good,
so so good. It is going dark. Huh.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
Do you think that's because they can't grab kids like
they have to rely on our generation?

Speaker 2 (05:13):
I think yeah, I think you're right. Yeah, I think
there's definitely.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
In fact, if you can't capture the next generation, you're
gonna stop making kids ship and you're gonna hit the
thirty year olds that grew up with you.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
Malwaka two has been on repeat in my house right now.
It's terrible. It's like, no, it's not Oh really, I've
heard that. I'm not saying because you're saying that, but
I've so many times now and I'm like, sing me
a song. Yeah, it's not good as the first one.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Sing me a song.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
I don't know this.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
See the first ones are good, remember the song.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
But I've only seen but I've seen the first one
like three thousand times, and I've seen the first one
like four or five thousand, Like it was on like
every day for like months, not literally, but yeah, that
is such a kid thing too, to have the same
ship on all the time. Or yeah, my daughter loves it.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
I just got into like lion King, so you just
be singing a kunamatada every time like that too.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
We got the they're called oh crap, what are they called? Anyways,
it's a little like the box. Have you seen that?
So it's like this little box looks like a speaker, right,
and then you get these little toys and then you
set the toy on top of it and then it
plays like an hour or two of like content like stories.
Sib on there. That's exactly that's exactly cool. Camera the
hell they're called anyways, they're huge with kids right now

(06:18):
and the kids that are a little older too. They've
been around for a while now. Go to Target. There's
a whole entire aisle dedicated to the boxes. Those little
toys there, like seventeen bucks, like a piece too, and
mostly Disney or just anything, mostly Disney. But then there's
like a you know, a Blippy one, and there's like
a Drastic Park one. Yeah, it looks like a YouTube
YouTube guy. Oh really, but he's like massive. I think

(06:39):
he sold like the Blippy franchise for like one hundred
million dollars or something. You know what I mean, I'm stupid,
but it all started on YouTube. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
Yeah, that's a lot of those guys. Yeah, I think
like Good Good, Like a lot of those guys don't
own most of their company anymore.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
What's it called. Uh, they did like some forty five
million dollars in crowdfunding for Good Good. Yeah, and like
I think Peyton Manning bought like a fat.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Yeah, they sold like a fat chunk at the at
the right time, so they like secured their life and
now they're just like characters, which I think is actually
smart business wise because then you.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Got to do all and also that their views are
just plummeting, so it's like they got in and got
their money and got their money. They don't have to
worry about that anymore. Yeah, who cares?

Speaker 1 (07:17):
At that point, we have gathered together today with our
friend Dean Sidorus, who's been reviewing documentary content with us
for off and on for years now. Yeah, and I'm
Jim and that's Mike, and we're here to talk about
Court of Gold from Netflix, the series documenting largely documenting

(07:39):
the US Olympic basketball team sort of dream team tuish maybe,
Uh the point is made in this that, uh, these
guys actually had to be better than the dream Team
because the West the rest of the world has gotten better.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's definitely about the internettional game. It's
more about more teams than I thought too.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Because I thought it was gonna be strictly like, yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Lebron right, And it does make sense to like film
the ship ton of Lebron and Steph because they're not
that they're on their last leg. They're playing great, but
they're obviously they can't play another ten years, you know,
Like same with Brady, right, Like Brady won a Super Bowl,
but and it was like, oh, he's got more. I'm like,
I just don't diminishing returns on that. Yeah, you know,
he didn't have another five in him and Lebron now

(08:25):
like he might just to get his other son in
the League, which I think might be. I mean, he's
already done the first ever right to be on the
same team as your son, but to get his other
son in. Their son's got one year in college and
is really fucking good. So we'll likely go to the
league better than what's his name, Ronnie? Very likely. I
love right when through glasses right, I don't know if
you're talking shit on the podcast, are off on Browny,

(08:47):
But right after you did that, he goes fucking nuts,
and I love that. I love the karma Dean.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
He when he scored seventeen on a in a loss
on garbage time, No.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
He played thirty minutes. Yeah, he played the whole game.
And then and then he dropped like fifty in the
G League.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Dude, Bronnie's not good. I think he was on here,
but then they brought up his stats and he had
like the worst shooting stats of like like.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
His early percentage was hard.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
But that's so hard, bro, That's when we were talking
about it.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
It's so hard to like come in for one play
and chuck the ball up and make a shot like
it's shots.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Also, like all the pressure of possible.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Yeah, they give him like no reason to succeed and
then they finally I just like hating.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
On Brownie because it's easy, but I like it. It's
more of like a joke.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
I know. That's why I like him, because he's the underdog.
You know how hard that's gonna be. It's gonna be
so sad.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
It's the Shadows shot.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
But Bryce is good. Bryce is good. Who knows if
he'll be better.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
We'll see.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
Because Bronnie didn't really get his college career, you know.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Yeah, Bronni's just kind of stiff. That's why I don't
like about it. He doesn't really float, bro.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
You should watch some highlights that they'd be floating. I
watch him, dude, he floating, maybe yacking on every fucking
G leaguer.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
He's good G League though, is caught his trash basketball.
The G League is so bad.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
Whinny perspective perspective Anthony Davis and the g those guys
could fucking hoop man, They can fucking hoop. Gabe Vincent,
I think it was you see Santa Barbara like put
on thirty there and then he goes and wins a
chip with starting with Lebron and the Lakers like they're
good down there.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
But the percentage of there's like there's the level in
g lee, though is so imbalanced. There's like really really
good guys, and then there's guys that like just college level.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
They're elite, elite college. But that's it's actually not that different.
It just shows you how good the NBA is.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Well, we know they're grey. It's one of the hardest,
second hardest sports to get into.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
Right, So then Browny's good.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
His dad owns half of the Lakers.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
He dropped nineteen.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
You can't just like make that up.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yeah, it was in whould they play.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
Now he's going to the defensive. He's got Damian Lillard gardenal.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
It was the Bucks. Okay, he's good, dude, No good. Yeah,
they did lose, but they's good. I wouldn't say he's good.
Maybe he's getting better. You can say, oh, he's getting
way better.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
He did pick ups. I did see the clip of
him cooking up.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Oh he's balling, he's balling.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
Long story short, Uh, yeah, I thought I thought it
would be the first thought on this whole thing having
to do with Stephen Lebron is something with this new
generation because I talk a lot of shit on like
Zoomers and like basketball fans and shit, because they just
like don't like even powerlifting, like they don't really learn

(11:33):
history and tradition of sports. I feel like in general,
and obviously this is a large stereotype, but I do
find it very common in like the gen Z. And again,
of course I'm a millennial, so then you always hate
on the gen behind you or whatever. But it does
seem like a common thread, like they just don't care,
you know, so like instead of like going and studying Jordan,
they'll just say, like, well Lebron's better, you know, and
they just don't know what's going on. And that argument's fine,

(11:55):
but back it up. But one thing I think they
do really good that's positive is they give people flowers
while they're still getting after it, you know, where like
Jordan's getting hated on on the Wizards, you know, the
whole league's hating on him for no reason, and that
was weird.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
I wouldn't I wouldn't saw him.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
Probably's still averaging like twenty five points. He's forty years old. Yeah,
you know, like, yeah, the Wizard sucked, but whatever, that's
really what it was.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yeah, but they don't show like the team at the time. Yeah,
it was weird.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
But and there's obviously negative fallout from the Bulls and whatever,
but like at least people show like no, like this
is awesome. Lebron and stuff are still here, like we
have to like cherish.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
That was also at a time too, where like people
didn't leave teams right like they do they flip flop
teams every year now, which changes every That was like
that changed that the people were accustomed to that, Like
people couldn't get past the fact that Jordan wasn't wearing
a Bulls jersey right and they just freaked out.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
It's I think it changed this international stuff too, where
like all these guys are homies, you know, which is
like I think bad for sports in a lot of sense,
Like you don't have to like have a hatred in
your heart for somebody, but being so connected to the
dude you're about to go up again against does change
the dynamic of it, you know.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Like going back to the UFC, which I heard is.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
Absolutely tanking, is the fight's always better when they have
some squabble, like everyone hates you know what I mean.
Like if they're friends, like it's a good fight, you know,
but like if they're like dapping up and all that.
You're like, all right, that's cool, but you want them
to kind of hate each other, right, Like that builds
the story and it builds like the fight itself. And
I think it's the same thing with basketball because they yeah,

(13:25):
it's a team sport, but it's always these one on
one matchups. And this international part kind of shows that
the good side of it because there's so much international
pride for every team, and especially internationally. I would say
rather than America, these guys do grow up with each other.
They're they're playing in the under you know, under fourteens together,

(13:47):
they're playing with the under eighteens together. We're in America,
they kind of do, but there's so much talent. There's
kids that are on our U eighteen that might not
even like go D one, like something happens and they
like fall off.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
There's also just so much money in America with private leagues, right,
so there's all they're playing all spread out.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
They're playing elsewhere where was it France? They talked about
even going to like an institute, right, And the joke
is China's always like recruiting five year olds with the
right limb length to be gymnasts.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Or whatever.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
But that's the thing everywhere. Shout out my boy Clint Steinel,
who just retired this year pro basketball player in Australia.
He went to AIS like Australian Institute of Sport. When
when you go to junior high and you're like a prospect,
it's just like a high school or like a prep school.
But all the best go there. And he went there,
became great, came here, went to Saint Mary's, went to

(14:35):
the Sweet sixteen whatever and then played pro there and
just retired I think like the last week week before.
But even that, like we don't have that. We don't
have it like an institute. We have like the Olympic
Training Center, but that's like for weird ass sports like
the fencers and the weightlifters.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yet there they kick the weightlifters out.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
And they go. Yeah, they go once a year for
a camp. They don't even like live there or get
paid to go there, where I'd assume like every other
first world nation had that.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah, the weightlifters actually lived there, which is which is weird.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
Yeah, yeah, the outlier, the fucking weirdos. They're weightlifters are
even weird in Olympic sports. They make fencers and shit
look normal. Yeah, yeah they're weird.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
They're weird.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
Yeah, they're weird. I mean powerlifters are fucking weird too.
We're just not legit. But like I do wonder if
that hurts or helps America, Like obviously there's so many
people like how would you choose them? But yeah, we
have prep schools are becoming really popular now. And then
there's basically a G League team that's all the best prospects.

(15:35):
I forgot the name of it. They just started that.
So instead of like getting signed to a G League team,
they take like all the best eighteen and nineteen year
olds and put them on a squad that's kind of
in the range.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yeah, it's gonna be so confusing on like where to
go if you're like, it's so easy to get lost
in modern day.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
Scotty Pippen's son just left his team and entered the
Portal Mid Sweet sixteen tournament. Hmm, wow, he just left
Michigan yesterday.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Is that gonna hurt them in the next game?

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Nah, he kind of sucks. He doesn't suck, but he's
not getting a lot of minutes.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
That's Friday, right, the rest of those games.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
I think tomorrow there's most of them both both both
both days, so I don't know when Michigan is. But
you know, like he literally leaves mid to talk about
not having loyalty to Jersey's teams or anything mid tournament
because once you enter the portal, I don't think you
can play for your team.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
So he's just done. So you're strange.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
He just threw in the white flag and again he
wasn't gonna a ton of minutes. But yeah, it's fucking weird,
Like again the gen Z shit.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Maybe because that's why us bitter about it.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
Probably No, I'm sure there's some negative shit going on
with coach and whatever. I am interested to watch the
rest of this to see if they talk about any
of that, because it was all sunshine and rainbows, like
Steve Kurr Mention is not playing people, but there's a
ton of drama.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
That goes on further, Well, how many episodes do you
guys watch?

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Really watched two?

Speaker 3 (17:01):
I think I watched two and a half.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
I'm going to finish it for I did finish it.
I don't finish it. It is.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
I think it's really good, you know, in general, I
think that, but there is a particular rhythm to it
that does get a little bit repetitive.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
It's like it's from what I've seen so far, it's
it's your standard Netflix style, like full swing the golf one.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
Yeah, I think it's a little bit, but I want
to gets a little bit better than full swing, to
be honest.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
And I wonder if that rhythm's on purpose because that's
the life they live.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
No, I mean, I mean the rhythm of the episode
of how it's cut together.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
Right, And so what I'm saying is when you're one
of them athletes, that is the rhythm of your life.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
But they're not really they're not following the athletes all
the time because they they may bounce around among teams, they.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
Are same when you're in tournaments like that. The rhythm
of life is the same. So I'm wondering if there's
an underlying there like same with this one, or if
you've watched Hard Knocks. Like Hard Knocks, you could say
the same thing. It's really boring because because it's a rhythm,
but that's how like athletes lives work.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's what all they know and all
they do.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
Right, you go, you travel, practice, prep, watch the next
team practice, again play the next team.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
And that's what this was.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
At least the first three episodes were like that. It
was like Canada, who they're playing a little history on it,
why they're playing practice for it, prep for it, go. Yeah,
like that's how that's all major sports work.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
I might have started the third one because that was
all about the Canada team, right, Yeah, yeah, so I
did start the third. That was actually, uh cool because
like Steve Nash is like one of my heroes. Yeah,
and I didn't realize that he had like that got
that guy was his godson.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
Yeah, RJ bar RJ for a long time. But yeah,
Steve nashbying like obviously Canadian, obviously maybe a skin tone,
but two the style of basketway he played. I played
a lot of it, played scrappy basketball, and he was
just so like smooth with it. He's not very gifted.
He could barely dunk. And then he went to Santa
Clara and I wanted to go to Santa Clara like
that was that was that was the game that they're
Jason Kidd. But Berkeley was a little out of reach.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
I didn't know he was his godfather, which because the
king's a lot of trouble back then.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Bro, he put a lot of pain on a lot
of folks, a lot of pain on a lot of folks.
That that, uh, just basketball lore is crazy. Like I
think his first year with the Phoenix Sons, you have
like three of the best point guards in the history
of basketball in the exact same team. You have Steve Nash,
Jason Kidd, and Kevin Johnson all on the same fucking roster.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
Like the picture of that looks fake like because you
don't understand like the timeline of it, and you're like,
what the hell is going on? And they're old nor
cow guys. Yeah, I mean, obviously Steve Nash from Canada,
but same thing. He went to Santa Clara. Uh, I
don't even know.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
Where kes mayor or the governor, what was he? Mayor?

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Mayor mayor went to Sack High And then I don't
know where Jason Kidd grew up. He obviously went to Berkeley.
He might I don't think he's from Oakland.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
But he might be. Who's he coaching now, Jay kids
in Dallas? Dallas?

Speaker 3 (19:54):
Yeah, yeah, it's supposed to. Bibby just took a Yeah,
Mike Bibby just took the sacks stay eight. Uh head
basket crazy.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
I saw that there. Here's funny, Like, are they gonna
get a new stadium then, because I don't know that
place sits on twelve hundred people.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Yeah, you gotta start winning, right, like the football team
started winning and they're already making a new stadium. That's
two new football stadiums in my lifetime.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
That has one good season two years ago.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
No, I think they've won league like three of the
last six years.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Jason kids in Dallas.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
No, no, yeah, yeah, yeah, you grew up in Oakland.
He grew up in Oakland, right, Yeah, he is straight
norcl That's why he went to Berkeley. Obviously, you don't
like really choose. You choose Berkeley, but we don't really
Jaylen Brown's from there too. That's some of the drama.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Hard to get into Berkeley. I didn't realize.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
Well, it's one of the fewer schools too, and who
knows nowadays again with the nil, I can only speak
from when I was in college and like hanging out
with you know, top level basketball guys.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
One of the fewer schools that kind of kept their
academic standard too, like they would creep in people when
they could, but not as much as you know, there's
some school like USC's kind of notorious.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
Stanford is notorious for really high I learned recently that
the IVY League doesn't do scholarships.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Yeah, a lot of schools, but for sports. Yeah, academics only. Yeah,
I mean obviously.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
You have to pay for your kid to go play
for fucking Stanford or something. Shit.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
No, they're like sneaking an academic scully.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Is that what they're doing. Yeah, that may seem like
that their parents are paying.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
I'm sure plenty. But even at like a regular D
one school, you know, like a full ride's only like
five dudes, you know, there's twelve on the team.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
There's a lot of dudes paying. Yeah, one hundred k
to go? Is that Harvard or Yale?

Speaker 1 (21:33):
They just did family uh family income lesson two hundred
thousand dollars free tuition.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yeah yeah, if you if you otherwise qualify.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
Yeah, I forgot which one I heard the interesting Yeah,
which just shows you what the standard of living is
in America.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Yeah, oh my god, under.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
Two hundred his free education?

Speaker 2 (21:52):
Yeah. Uh, well, when you go to the grocery store
and you get half a grocery bag for seventy dollars.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Like, so, something I noticed having watched the whole the
whole thing is that number one.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
It's kind of a love letter to Kevin Durant. Yeah,
the whole, the whole thing is very much a love letter.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
That was my favorite part.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yeah, yeah, that was my favorite part.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Because he's hated on was my second favorite party.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Everyone hates on him.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
He has such a bad rap to the world.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
But every you know, I'm obviously like a basketball nerd,
and I'll watch like random discrete interviews and follow the
lore and whatever like every single person, which they do
display already in this like he just loves basketball. He
doesn't give a fuck about anything else. He's not married,
he doesn't want to be married, Like he just wants
to hoop.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
I think we know why everybody hates on Durant.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
There's definitely reasons.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
I love Durant. I'm a huge Durant fan, but like
I'm just my favorite player on that team.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
Yeah, we talked about in the past too, Like he
leaned into that too, where like the big drama.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Was probably even like seven years ago, but he's never
like he's people haven't gotten past that.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
I know, but he did so he basically talked shit.
I think it was exact wheet was funny because someone's
talking shit on Kevin and then instead of answering on
his burner, he signed into his personal and he says
something like, man, he had like a broken ankle and.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
He still did that or something.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
You know, like he defends himself, but it's from his
own But then like the good part over the last
eight years is he just he'll just combat people on
his personal Now he just said He's like I made
that up, but he is like defending himself in like
a crazy scenario. And then now like he'll just go
at fans like a good guy in like a trolley
funny way. Yeah, just from his own account now, which

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so at least he like stepped into it.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
A little bit and responded to like random people. No,
he'll go crazy.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
He's got kind of a dry sense of humor in
this when he when when he talks, and it just
he seems very like down to earth for somebody who
is as good and as well compensated as he's been
in the course of his life.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
I'm trying to think of the Netflix interviews, who was
it they did like a black room and he just
sat down with much celebrities. I don't think it's Seinfeld.
Are like at a table maybe or even just chairs. Fuck,
I think they did. They might have done Kanye. This
is a little bit older. But they do a Kevin
Durant one. And if you want to like Kevin Durant more,
watch that.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
It's so good. Was it the late night guy?

Speaker 3 (24:14):
It might have been one of the late night guys.
That's why I said, like.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
What's the one that threw out the beard?

Speaker 3 (24:17):
Oh, Letterman? It is Uh, it's letter the letter Yeah,
the ones that he did after he left the show
Letterman and Durant so good.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
He grew out that beard.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Yeah, I guess my next guest needs no introduction.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
Yeah, I guess if you do that, if you go
watch that and Durant, it's show good.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Those are of them are really good. Interviews. Was wild
because you.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
Get you get non TV Letterman. You know, he's always
been a solid interview.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
That's what he really always wanted from those interviews. But
then you realize when you get older, those interviews are
just like proposity tours. Yea. Their ads when you're like,
oh wait, they got a movie coming out that's why
they're on here. That's what they're here to talk about.
When you realize it's not about the content, it's just
about money, and you don't watch them.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
You're taking these insanely talented comedians in like a Letterman
or a Leno or whatever, and you're like diluting them
because now you're on ABC and he can't say anything. Yeah,
you know, like they're they're crazy intelligent dudes. I can't
let loose and not that like these interviews he goes,
you know, ballistic or anything.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
But watch Pikachu seven.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but the interview with Letterman and Durant
so good.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
I haven't seen that, but this I was. I was impressed.
I don't think i'd ever seen him speak that much,
just like kind of from the heart.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
Yeah, that was good.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
That.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
And there's toward the end, you know, especially in the
last couple of episodes, there's a lot of Steph, a
whole lot of stuff.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
Yeah, and he.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Hasn't gotten to Steph yet, and I'm sure that's probably
gonna well with Lebron.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
Well, no, the story ends with Steph.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Eh.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
That's the thing. That's the crazy thing about this. There
is almost no Lebron. I don't think there's any Lebron
interview because they in the whole in the whole thing.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
Well, the storyline obviously follows the Olympics, and that's what
happened in the Olympics. Like I watched as many games
I could, and Steph just lights up the last two games.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Oh, he goes absolutely bananas. So you like have to yeah,
you have to like talk about Yeah, the story of
the the story of the Olympics doesn't really involve Lebron much.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
Yeah, but that's kind of like.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
One game that that that the the semi final game,
the right before the oh.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
He puts up like thirty something.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
Yeah, but even that, like he had a game like
it takes a different role the whole time, and he's
taking a different role in his career too, right, Like
that's how you can't like really argue him. And here's
the unk Now that's like not that, but just like
even like this, the way he plays is so different
than he's more of a Magic Johnson than he is
a Michael Jordan. So like the whole comparisons are off.
You know, like if you're comparing Jordan, you have to

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compare Jordan to like obviously Kobe more like a Durant.
STEP's kind of his own human STEP's more like a
Steve Nash evolved, you know. So like people make all
these comparisons, and same with Lebron, like he's always kind
of not mind being quiet, like the championship they won
in Cleveland, Like Kyrie was the guy Kyrie bat shit
And that's more drama too, Like Kyrie didn't get on
the team, didn't even get an invite.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
Jalen Brown's another big one, and he's been super vocal
about it. He said, if you're not signed with Nike,
you're not going there. He's a Berkeley guy. Yeah. And
then obviously the Jason Tatum drama. Did they ever coover that?

Speaker 2 (27:16):
No?

Speaker 3 (27:16):
Yeah, see that like that was the biggest news thing
I thought.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
Tatum was on that team.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
Yeah, and he didn't play a single minute in the
entire attorney.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
They never touch on that at all. Obviously, this is
all you know, as much sunshine and ring as as
probably and in the beginning playing a single minutes weird.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
So it is hard and Kurt they lead it up
in episode one or two, and that's why I thought
maybe they would tackle it because Kurr talks about it genuinely,
and I don't really like Kurr that much, to be honest,
but he does talk genuinely about how hard it is
as a coach. You have twelve the twelve best players
arguably on the planet, twelve of the best twenty uh,
and how do I play them all? There's fucking well
forty minutes in a game.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Okay, those first two games that we won by twenty,
you can't get Tatum in there for a coup. Yeah
that's a fair point.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
Yeah, but like what you don't want garbage minutes either?

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yeah, but like but like that's what you do for
ship players, but when there is no ship players, guys,
Like even W twenty, I don't know if we won
by twenty against like close to it. We won like
it was like one twenty to eighty eight against Serbia, Yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
Think, yeah, I think they didn't put Tatum in because
of Durant. I think Durant was, yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
Going crazy off the bench and like going to the
international team getting better too, Like a twenty point lead, yeah,
with a quarter left, Like I'm not hitting off the gap,
it's the full court.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
But maybe like the last three four minutes. Yeah, but
that's where you put the scrubs in.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
That's like a sign that I don't trust that's.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
You put the scrubs in. Okay, But also we want
the guys to get minutes on the court during the
Olympics so they can feel a part of it.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
Maybe maybe I don't know. If I'm Tatum, I don't want.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Those I know you still earn the gold medal in
the practice yeah, in the practice game.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
And even getting there, Like, I just don't want those
trash minutes. And then Steve Kurtz said, it's matchups and
whatever who's hot, and that is true too, like it
can't organize the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
But and Durant was coming off an injury, hadn't played
in a month when the when the tournament began, and
so who knows what was going to happen with him.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
If you would have pulled them out, they probably have
plans maybe to put Tatum in at that game, right,
and Kevin just goes.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
Off and if you if you zoom out, like, yeah,
Tatum is twenty five, Yeah, right, he's got he's got
fifteen more years, that's three more Olympic cycles. No, he'll
probably get on again. No, he'll be the guy in
the next one. He'll be him and Anthony Edwards. And
again a lot of it is like matchup stuff.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
Is anybody more likable than Edwards?

Speaker 3 (29:29):
Really? Because that's another one too. A lot of people
hate him really, yeah, a lot of people hate his cockers.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
I love constantly talking ship, I.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
Know, but that's like funny, but he's doing with a
huge smile. Yeah, the Obama seems kind of like just
like he's just like I think he's talking ship, but
like Obama's not really with it.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
You know, Obama's the Obamas are the executive producers of
this serial.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
That makes sense. Yeah, big basketball guy obviously and him
and Lebron and stuff. That's one of the things I
like that.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
And you would do this bracket that was fun Yeah, yeah, yeah,
we always just cool ship like that. I think he
does then do like a summer playlist.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
He just plays. He does make like a likable Spotify annual.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
Yeah, yeah, ship like that much. You know, it is
funny he's in there. That makes more sense, like he
did always visit them and stuff. But it does make
more sense that he's the producer.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
And I think that when he was in office like
the players always Yeah, both both terms. I think like
they all went there. He was he was actually playing
a game every week.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
Yeah, yeah, especially the.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
First term. I don't know about the second. Actually had
like a decent little jumper on him.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
He's not terrible. Yeah, he's not terrible by any means.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
How do you play basketball with the president of the
United States? My question, you let him shoot?

Speaker 3 (30:38):
Yeah, yeah, you're giving them the rock for sure.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
Hey, uh anthough he might fucking smell, he wouldn't. He wouldn't.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Yeah, he wouldn't give a ship.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
No.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
I like Anthony Edwards a lot too. At first, I
didn't like him. Uh you see the movie Hustle. I
just watched Hustle.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Yeah, with the Sandler Yeah, and he's you hate him
in that mode.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
He makes him a day and a lot of people
at that time when that movie came out, he was
like a rookie or sophomore in the league said that
he didn't do no acting like that was him. And
now you're like, fuck, bro, Like I don't really like that.
And then some of his interviews, like to Jim's point,
where these interviews are cool and like open and you
get a vibe you can't blame them either, because so
it's kind of like the everyone rips Joe Rogan for

(31:19):
interviewing McGregor or whoever just broke their ankle whatever, there's
a fight now, like six years ago. And so then
Rogan even says on his own like, well, I probably
shouldn't like interview people get their ass whoop.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Like yeah, man, that's what you do in basketball.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
Every night you go on the court, whether you have
a good game or a bad game, or you win
or you lose, you it's mandatory. You go to a
table afterwards, and you get ridiculed by both teams. Dude,
yeah journalists, Yeah right, And so like, are you gonna
get the best light of someone who's dehydrated, fucking exhausted
because they slept three hours And now Edward's gotta go

(31:54):
I answer dumb ask questions about the vibe in the
locker room, like you're gonna get shit stuff.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
So now he's in Vegas, he gets to hang out
with his the coolest guys ever, and like I can
only relate on the smallest, smallest term, but like playing
All Star games at big camps or even like you
guys might even really going to a pickup game and
you get to choose and you get like the best
player on your team. It feels different when you play
with someone of equal talent and every team has the

(32:21):
best player. But like going to these basketball camps, I
think in high school or whatever, and you get picked
on an all star team and now you like, you
know what that guy sauce has. You know, there's no
communication needed. You just go and there's like a vibe
even in lifting, like to some extent, like I used
to lift, you know, with the world record holders and shit,
and I wasn't that strong, but they like knew I

(32:42):
knew my shit, and so like just like the energy
there is a little different, like everyone's on the same page.
So like these guys are doing this.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
Sharing a barbell like cal strength.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
Right, everyone's already kind of hand picked, you know, like
this is that time's a trillion, right, this is the
best athletes in the history of human beings and now
they're you know, like so for all of them to
be in a good mood is good to see and
for Aunt Edwards to like, yeah, obviously I think he
is just a positive cat. There's a lot of drama
around that time too, though, where like John Morant was

(33:11):
supposed to be the face of the league, just got
caught with a pistol and then the league.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
He never recovered from that, huh.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
Not image wise, he's bawling out of his brains and
no one wants to talk about him.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
No, honestly, Like, I don't think last time I remember
at the Center he ever mentioned sucks.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
He was the highlight reel and he still is because
their team also sucks. Their team's not playing well, but
neither of the timber Wolves. They're not playing that well.
And Anthony Edwards is still kind of the guy. Yeah,
but he's like, it's all marketing, bro, it is. It
just sucks, you know, because they gave they gave fucking
jaw a Nike no, all of them the culture deal deal,
like if his own shoe, right, all of it. Well,
I mean same with Jason tatumright, he's just kind of

(33:47):
too quiet and so like he could be the face
of the league. He's fucking twenty six twenty seven team. Yeah,
books on the team. Book played really well in the Olympics.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
I don't remember. Yeah, really funny he was on the team.
I don't remember.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
Yeah, he played a lot of defense. Same thing like that,
dude's like an absolute killer, but he just like has
to turn and defender on this team.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
They starts doing the Matthew right, like all these guys
are Nike athletes.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
Yeah Edwards, yeah, ants selling the one.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah, but he's like, yeah, he's the next guy, right,
he's the next Lebron.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
Yeah he should be. I mean, I don't know. The
league's in a good spot. Brother, they don't talk about.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
Like a Das are also fucking sick.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
Yeah, yeah, I love it. Yeah, but Luca Lucas fucking
twenty six insane. Ant's fucking twenty three insane.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
No one cares about Luca though, like they do. I love,
I love. I'm talking about like mass audience. Like, you're
not gonna sell a Lucas shoe, right, I don't know.
I think so.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
I think he's one of the best Jordan shoes. Him
and Jason Tatum, they're both Jordan. Yeah, Nike.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
I don't know, No, but there's no, there's no, there's
no denying Lucas skill. His shoes kind of cool too.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
His shoes kind of cool too.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
I don't know what was the first one of the
French team, but people probably don't even know Boris did.
Boris Dia is a savage. The general manager of that
French team.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Boris was a fucking savage, bro. He was a savage.
He looks old as shit.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
Poor guy. They had a little way.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
But the coach of the French team is you know,
they say it he's retiring after the after the gold
medal game. Yeah, regardless, he announces it. You know, he's like,
this is my last Olympic basketball game.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
He's like, yeah, he's been around a long time. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
The same with obviously the CCP coach like that. Some
of that's so funny with the Serbian coach, like they're
just always like eighty years old and just like yell
at you taking every.

Speaker 4 (35:31):
I love how he was in the gym though.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
No, yeah he's about it. Yeah he's about it. But
it's just so funny to see, like, and obviously we
had like Greg Popovich, you know, who's obviously a little
bit older, and even coach k Like a lot of
our coaches weren't basketball players either. Historically, I think Popovitch
might have played college.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Uh Phil not or not Philnight. What's his name Jackson? Jackson?

Speaker 3 (35:50):
Yeah, he played in the league, Phil, Phil, you know,
it's obviously a little bit more. But I don't even
know if coach k did George.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Uh Carl, George Carl, he didn't play.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
I don't know if George Carl played in the little
you think so, yeah, you know, so, like I get it,
but they also look a little bit different. You know,
it's just like an international thing.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
The Kings had him for like one season George Carl
that No, we had him.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
We had him for a while with uh. He might
even coach Miss Richmond back in the.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Day, George Carl. Yeah, they came back.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
Yeah, maybe, Yeah, we could look at all because.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
He had he had he had remember when they he
came with when we had a.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
Boogie because he yeah, because he coached Seattle and then
he might have he might have been here he coached
Uh that's where he first made his name with like
Gary Payton and them in uh probably seventy three.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Yeah, he looked like he was just he might be right.
I might be wrong.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
Because we had another trying to make of the coach
because we've had.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Like talk about a fall from grace all of our.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
Coaches, bro, all of our coaches. I know, bug is
so good. He was an Olympian. He was, and then
I think he went to Gold. He might have been
twenty twelve with Lebron and them, and Kyrie might have
been too. That's whole thing. Like it's also like life,
and we got black balled, like Steph decided not to go.
Kyrie and Boogie both got black balls.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
Oh, I mean just from like the league. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Boogie got black ball from the entire Kyrie too.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
He's balling though, no I know, but he gets no
love he got he got uh.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
John Brant he was getting love when Dallas won. Well, yeah,
you can't say no when you win a champion undeniable. Yeah,
I mean I think that Kyrie is one of the
best basketball players of all time.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
No, every single NBA player will say that Kevin Durant
is the best scorer of all time, and Kyrie's the
most talented basketball ball.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
Yeah. I love watching I can watch Kyrie highlights all
day long.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
He's starting to stream now. He's so good too.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
He's so injured right yeah, and and.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
Like yeah, they're just coming up throwing the season, but
he's so entertaining. He's so good.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
Everybody's tanking right now. Spurs are tanking. You know, Fox
isn't playing the rest of the year. He walks like
a couple weeks ago. No, he's getting a hand surgery,
I know. But they're also tanking. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Yeah, but I'm saying that as as as that because
he played he played two years with a broken hand
a while all.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Of a sudden, exactly, Yeah, they're tanking. Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
He only played one coach here one year.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yeah. I was like, I remember sixteen. I went to
one of those games and it was like this, like we've.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
Had a lot of coaches like that though, you know,
like we got rid of alone and now it goes
to Denver. You want a chip, you know, like it's
obviously just like.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Yeah, I've always I always liked Malone. I was bummed
when that happened.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
Yeah, it's all part of.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
The Kings fan You just expect a new coach every year.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
Yeah, it's it's all of it.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Yeah, it's all. Uh.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
There's a lot of controversy around there right now around
Vivek's daughter being way way too involved with the team.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
Yeah, there's conspiracies on Jeremy Lamb. Jeremy Lamb's with her well,
that's the conspiracy, right, so like in her ear, he's
like trying to control and and I told it's actually
not that conspiratorial and not that crazy to me right now,
it's not so if I'm vac and then my daughter
starts dating college stud NBA pretty good player, he played

(38:58):
for US, right yeah, And and but he was a
freaky UKM bro shipping on people. And I like him,
you know, like he's really nice to my daughter. We
have family dinners and I really like him. And we're
at dinner and he says, hey man, we should look
at this guy, or you should take a look at
this offense, or you should take a look. I'm probably
gonna listen. I'm a fucking tech nerd from Silicon Valley.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
He's like dropping these little drops.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
Hey man, we should probably get rid of the aarin.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Oh do you think?

Speaker 3 (39:21):
And then that guy goes to the meeting and it
is you know, it's weird, Yeah, it is.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
It is. That's a very like, uh, what's the what's
that show on HBO? Oh? The basketball? The family? The
family that's all the money, like uh, just like succession succession. Yeah,
it's like a succession like family member, like chirping in
on the business from outside.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
And and like he shouldn't be involved for the most part,
now that should not be involved. Yeah, yeah, I mean
that's that's part of the reason that this franchise is
wagged back and forth from this strategy to that strategy
from Jerry Jones's Dallas.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
But it's it's hard.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
The maloofs were involved and we had some years but
never one well yeah, never won.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Yeah you got fucking Kobe goddamn Bryant in your way. Yeah,
you know that's what.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
What do you think every Yeah, what every Seattle and
Utah team said forever, like, man, we just never got
Yeah you had fucking Michael Jordan.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
In your way? What are you supposed to do? No,
that's fair, you know, you're just done for that's fair.

Speaker 3 (40:21):
Just shit timing, shit timing, shit timon Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
Did they get more Steph interviews like one on one.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Zee, Yeah, there's the the A big chunk of the
last episode is a lot of stuff because yeah, there
wasn't like a big lebron one on one and obviously
in the first two it was a lot of the
Canadian guys R J.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
Barrett and you have to choose one guy, right, because
like Canada, Loki has like four dudes. They have like
five guys in the league now that are six maybe
actually that are in the league, and legit Olennok. They
interviewed a bunch, but didn't talk a bunch about the tall,
long haired white dude.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
He's kind of at the beginning.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
Yeah, and they interview him a lot, but they don't
really like dig into his story. He's always just talking
about Cannon or talking about Barrett or Nash, which is
interesting because Oleno's career has been really good in general.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
R J.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
Barrett was supposed to be the guy in the league
and has had like an okay career obviously very talented,
but just never into the you know, he's supposed to
be fucking Ann Edwards like he's supposed to be the guy.

Speaker 4 (41:18):
Was like a chip to the Knicks.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
Yeah, they spend more time on Shy.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
Yeah yeah, I mean Shy. Same thing with shybro Shy's
arguably the best guard in the league right now, and
he's not the face of the league. You know, like
there's just so much marketing to everything the NBA does
and you can't you know, I mean, I guess you
could fault them now because viewership's down, but you can't
really fault them because over the last.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Forty it's not down. It's down like forty percent, I know.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
But over the forty years, like it's been so good too,
you know, so like because you can blame the product too, right,
it's not like all the league.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
I don't. I don't mind the product though. I don't.
I think, yeah, I don't know really what it is.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
I don't love the product. I really don't. I don't
mind it because you watched like regular season games than
they do. And we've talked about this for every sport,
baseball and basketball in particularly, it's just so many games,
you know, like Baseball's one out is that? Or one
excuse is that? Like at least there's a different pictures,
you know, so you go, what's your favorite picture?

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Like at least he's just the same game every night.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
Yeah, and he's rested, so at least he's going hard,
like he's not he's not saving his shoulder, you know,
because he knows rest is coming. Like Lebron has to
save himself, you know, and Lebron's about it.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
Example, like he goes a bad chick baseball too. You
get like one swing can change the whole game, and
you're constantly waiting for that to happen.

Speaker 3 (42:31):
But it would be hard to argue that baseball wouldn't
be more interesting if there was less games Like that
outfielder Mike a little harder, you know, like he might
run a little real a little harder. Like that's the
reason again, why.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
I don't have less injuries. Right, You'll have sure these
big guys that are constantly getting hurt. They're just they're
taking too they're they're they're sitting on planes too long.
I know, they got all the best thing in the world,
but like the turnaround for those games and those four
games six game skits, like those four game series is
like you're talking about these big guys, they're sitting around
too much. They're they're not they're getting tired, they're getting loose,
they're making these quick adjusted plays like on it from

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standing still for long. Like there's a lot of reasons
why baseball people don't real think about that, why baseball
guys are getting hurt. Alter. I'm like, well, how is
that guy constantly hurt? It's like, well, he's six eight,
three hundred pounds of solid muscle. But also like he's
kind of like, you sit for twenty minutes six sitting.
You have one ball you got and you gotta swing
as hard as you fucking can from from not moving one.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
Just like the mental part, you know, mentally, and that's
ravel that's where people have to give it to Lebron,
Like to mentally go a is hard and be so
attuned every game that he does is the most impressive
thing about him. Where Yeah, Bro, if I'm fucking playing
what what's baseball?

Speaker 2 (43:42):
One hundred something sixty two? Bro?

Speaker 3 (43:44):
You think I'm gonna really care sitting in the outfield
if I drop the ball, I got another bottle.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
Well, and if you're an outfielder, essentially they're like a
wide receiver out there.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
You gotta you got a lot of ground to cover.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Yeah, but I'm just like, and the ball is not
being thrown to you.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
That's you know, not.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
Paying attention for fucking one hundred and sixty games, Like
I'm not dying for it.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
No, I used to. I used to, but then once
you like get no, I'm talking about as a player. Oh,
I think I spectator as a player.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
I just don't think you can you know, you just
can't be so fucking like like like to be the
best athlete, you gotta be like this the whole time.
You know, you're on your the balls are your feet
and you're fucking reacting. You're not doing that for fucking
how many And he's nine times one hundred and sixty.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
There was some guys though that extra like that. Not
very many though, you know, yeah, yeah, the majority of.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
That's why they called Pete Rose Charlie Hustle because yeah,
he's yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
He's a Boston second base little guy. Uh Padroya, no,
Destin Beadroya. He's a little guy on Boston right second baseman.
What's his name? Anyways, he was like that every single game,
every single pitch was like it was he was years old.
It was do or die. It was the same routine.
It was like high alert, like fucking jumpstup, every every

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single fucking pick. Every single game. He played with his
heart out.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
But yeah, you need every player on the you need
every player on the field to do that, every player
to do that. And then the spectators, Okay, Wizard of
Oz another guy that just went crazy. Yeah, yeah, but
with the point that you can even pick them out
means that it's not enough. It's probably Detroit, right, Like
every pro athlete should go balls to the wall.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
You're a pro athlete, yeah, or living the dream? Yeah,
And I mean.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
It is long.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
Yeah, it is very possible.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
To get very injured making a very acrobatic play. It's
possible to get hit in the head or the hand
or whatever.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
As hard as you can, you're probably gonna pull some obliques.
And like, there's so many fucking oblique injuries. I think
the injuries because you're just torking. It's like golf, Like,
how do golfers get hurt because they're torquing their body
at maximum effort a fucking hundred times around.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
You think that practice to their spines and their shoulders
getting destroyed, their knees.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
Look at Tiger, he's a fucking a thousand. Yeah, he's
got so much metal in his body. He's more machine
than man. He's had another surgery. What he just break
He just broke something again, I don't know, he just
broke just got married. No, he's not playing because you
just had surgery on his uh, like ruptured his achilles
or broke his Achilles's playing now though? Yeah, it sounds

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good to Yeah, Charlie, Charlie Woods. Woods, that's a hell
of a name, Charlie Woods. And then John Daily sounds
also a stick to It's great, yeah, Charlie Woods. But
those kids are smart, man.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
They probably Wood sound like a baseball player from the fifties.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
They're gonna make the same money not having to win
tournaments on YouTube. Yeah, you know, like that's probably true.
Golf is still fucking huge.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
Yeah, just having seen the whole thing, you really really
cycled through kind of the best teams.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
Obviously, they talk to South Sudan. Why not, well sausage
in the run.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
They were in two episodes, but they don't have as
positive an impression in the documentary as they had watching
the games or real life.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
I mean, and there's NBA guys were talking about. I mean,
that's the that's the first African nation to win a
game in the Olympics.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
Yeah, they didn't talk any there was none of that
at all.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
And I'll watch their centers in the tourney right now
for Duke and he used to look at the top
ten draft pick.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're still kind of going with that
old school Olympic Younger crew.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
And Western yeah, you mean sign eas Yeah, yeah, the
what was the other teams? Spain's okay, Argentina's flopped out.
That's one.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
Good.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
They're the only team to win a gold, which they
don't even fucking they mentioned for a second. But in
the beginning montage when they're building this up to be
more of an international story and talk about the eight
loss and the Foeba loss, they don't show Argentina in
the beginning.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
Isn't that crazy?

Speaker 3 (47:51):
They kept showing at Spanna and they showed Tony Parker
and Spain was good because it was the Gasol brothers,
you know, and it's the Kasalt brothers versus Kobe like
that was a story, and they weren't inanely good, and
France was insanely good. Even England was really good for
a bit. They had Ben Gordon who played shooting guard
with for the Bowls and Louel Dang. They had a
really good team too in that era that pushed Germany

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had a team that pushed us to some limits. But
Argentina's running the world and they don't show him at
the very beginning. Brazil had a pretty good team back
in the day too. Nane who played for Denver with
Allen Iverson and Carmela Anthony and then yeah Argentina, now
we're just two were too busy Wooden the World Cups.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
Sorry, yeah, they who do They spend time with Canada, France, Serbia,
A lot of time with Serbia, a lot of a
lot of Vladi dvats.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
Screen time. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
Yeah, I mean even in the past, the show like
our venus a bonus, you know, in the eighty eight Olympics,
which is really cool obviously, like CCP beating US. I
wish they would have gone more into on our college
team because that's even history that I don't know that well,
like our amateurs squads who are on him because we
had to have ballers still. I think like James Worthy

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was still on one of those teams, you know, like
some really fucking ballers.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
It's interesting that the contrast that seeing the whole thing,
like Serbia loses and they get the fucking bronze medal,
and so you see them in the locker room like
sad and crying and comforting each other, and then like
two minutes later they're fucking celebrating. Yeah, and and like

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you know, like literally like out on the town celebrating.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
Mean it was the year like for them to win gold.
I obviously, joke is just twenty nine, so he's got
a little bit more time. But dude, you look at
his stats, what he does in the league, and he
doesn't get enough love either, Like he's actually in sick.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
He doesn't good enough love till the playoffs come around. Bro.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
But even like in the history of stuff, like they're
not even putting them in like some all time talks.
But like I think averaging thirty twelve and twelve, Yeah,
they do talk about him with him all the time
in the Jordan conversation.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
Oh no, I just been like in general, like you'll
hear about him like you watch like Sports Center. U.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
Yeah, but I'm talking in the big picture.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
In the docks, they talk about him. He's not he's
not his player in the whole turn.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
He's definitely Yeah, I mean he's the MVP of the
league multiple times. Thirty twelve and twelve is the best
stat line to ever go down to history, and they're
winning games because if you have that stat line, you're losing.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
No one cares, right, I think the problem, we're not
the problem. But like the the thing with that is
you can't just be good at basketball to be considered
like you gotta be then you gotta be an entertainer.
You gotta be flashy.

Speaker 3 (50:37):
You guys kind of flashy.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
I mean he plays like very but he'd discipline basketball.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
He'd be throwing some no looks, he'd be throwing some dimers.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
Yeah, but he's not like doing Jordan fucking you know
logo donks. Yeah, he's fat. Yeah, he's look a look
at Wemby. Have you seen him when he was a kid.
Look at Wemby. He's like a you shouldn't be that athletic.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
No, no, yeah, yeah, jokichink got that. He ain't got
that sauce.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
So he's just got that that. He's What was so
dominating is you just can't stop his like ten foot jumper.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
No, you can do everything, bro, he's so good. He's
so he's Luca.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
He's a fucking seven foot Luca.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
You're probably right. I mean, like it's not flashy on
American level, like yeah, like.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
No, he just scores a lot of points, but it's
not like sexy.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
No. Yeah, they're not sexy points.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
No, they're just like all of a sudden, you look up,
you look at the STWN, he's but if you get
thirty five points.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
No, he's Yeah, he's literally unstoppable.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
I think he's just barely barely.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
I literally think like if he just continues to care,
because he's even had like funny interviews where like he
just doesn't even like basketball and shit, like he's like
a weird dude.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
He's got his crazy brothers that are in the stand.

Speaker 4 (51:40):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
If he could care for another ten years, he could
be the greatest basketball player in the history of basketball easily.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
There's like three guys you can say that about right
now in the league, which is crazy.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
There are a lot, like there's a lot of potential,
but like he's doing it. Like you look at his
stat lines from age twenty five to thirty versus anyone else,
and he.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
Beats them, like he beats them like for sure, to.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
Thirty twelve in totals insane. The only person I think
to average a triple double in the history of the
NBA is Oscar Robertson. Yeah, different game too, Yeah, a
whole different time, a whole different time. I don't like
the argument that he was playing against you know, plumbers
and instruction workers.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
But at the same time yeah, yeah, I mean at
the same time some of them were well, no, they
weren't like nineteen eighty five.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
Fucking in nineteen thirty if it was a typical salary,
it was like, what ten thousand dollars.

Speaker 3 (52:27):
No, eighties you're a rocket eighties you're rocking. Probably probably
a hundred k. Yeah, probably hundred k.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
Which maybe a little bit which is three and a
half million now or something like that.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
Yeah, probably, yeah, probably, I mean now is like twenty
Well you can look at inflation easily by by rookie
contracts because it's just going to go one for one inflation. Yeah, right,
So whatever a rookie contract now, which is probably around
three million rookie NBA contract, even nineteen eighty five is
towards the end of his career, but we still get
an idea nineteen.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
Eighty five.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
Three k oh yeah, yeah, and that's probably yeah again
for like a whatever rookie. So I mean Oscar got
paid for sure, right because the same era as Magic
Jordan was a rookie that year obviously got to end
up paying just fine.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
So structurally I thought the first episode I think is
the shortest or one of the shortest in the whole. Actually,
there's one that's thirty seven minutes.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
It's a little bit shorter than that second.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
Yeah, yeah, I think maybe so. But it was it
was intriguing, but it wasn't like I have to sit
here and be sure that I watched the next episode
that was there's It didn't pull me in the way
I'd expected it to, and the other episodes do that,
Like you, I thought from from the transition from episode

(53:50):
to episode, you know, really, I here's the thing. I
didn't have to watch all of them obviously, Yeah, yeah,
and if if it was not one that I enjoyed.
And I'm not a huge basketball fan period, pretty casual
basketball fan, especially Olympic basketball, very casual fan.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
With the Kings.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
I like, I wait for my Apple TV to tell
me the games close before I turn it, you know.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
I mean that's part of eighty two games. So, like,
I love basketball and I'm not turning on an NBA game. Well,
it's gonna be a good Kings because every game is
gonna matter at this point.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
Yeah, get into bro, think we're done dat?

Speaker 2 (54:21):
Oh we are what three and a four in a row? Now? Bro?

Speaker 3 (54:24):
And now you get literally same Night one interview, Zach
Lavigni said, locker room vibes are bad, and then they
ask key On Ellis. He's like, dude, locker room vibes
are great, and you're like, all right, we're done. Like
you hear that in the same night, You're done.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
I uh, I texted my body the last time. We're
gonna lose by twenty tonight because we're playing Okay, see
now they're on a back to back.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
They're actually an insane team too.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
Yeah they sixty wins. Yeah yeah, playing them on a
back to back, we already always blow back to backs,
no matter how hot of a streak we're on. If
we're playing back to back, we play like absolute dog shit.
We might see mister Christy on the sideline of Sex
State next season.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
Help him to be out. Maybe Christie's falling, but that's
how the game goes. It is, it's not but he's also.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
To be working for us, you know, just swapping that position.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
Well he's yeah, he's not doing enough to win either.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
Its time was supposed to be there. He shouldn't even
have been the head coach. I mean, I like Christy
and when we when we first came in, he was
crushing it and things were looking good.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
But we can't. We can't.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
He shouldn't have been in that position.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
And talk about having best coaches all the time.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
We had one of the top five coaches in the
league when we fired him. My problem with the whole
Christie thing not to go on a tangent, but it's like,
you know what, we could have groomed Christie to actually
be a head coach. It's just it wasn't now, wasn't
the time, No, no, but like fourth or third or
fourth on the totem pole to even be in that position.
All of a sudden, he's in there, in that position,
and then he's failing. Now it's going to potentially Chris

(55:42):
King fans in the future potentially maybe have him coach
watching him like we did all three days.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
He's not gonna get hired no where else. He's gonna
have to go back to being an assistance. It's bullshit.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
It sucks, I mean, but just even fire Mike Brown
to begin with, that was so dumb.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
That was I've read a bunch of behind the scenes
on that.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
I still can't figure out.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
It's just it's all marketing and what you show the
world Hey, we're making big changes, to make big.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Changes like that's it's just a game. The whole thing
is a game. But also you know the public faces
of it is they look.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
Like idiots, right, Yeah, It's just been in sports for
so long. It always happens, right, Like it happens in
every sport and it will happen forever. And if there's
one rumor, you know, Darren Fox doesn't like Mike Brown, but.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
That was that was totally not true.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
It was the opposite.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
I'm just saying, if that get if that gets floats around,
then he's gone.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
That was the more realistic thing is that, like they
wanted to get rid of Fox and have him step out,
and Lamb did say, Jeremy Lamb did, Yeah, that's what
I'm saying. So what do you do? You say you
do the one thing that Fox said he would leave
if you did, and you fire Mike Brown.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
No, it's toast. It's toast as a bonus. Is already
talking about like, yeah, I got to see the direction
before I resigned, like it were toast.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
There's stuff sleeves that we'll win thirty games next year.
We're done for. There's no five D chess going on here.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
No, no, it's pretty bad.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
The players have all the power on the kinks.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
Yeah, in the league now that is kind of an issue.
But yeah, especially yes, we haven't. No, well, we got
no money. It's beyond just basketball. We're in the ships
and every everything to do with the build a good organization.
Right now, we've got no money. We've got all these
guys that are aging out or like the oldest team
in the league and the most expensive team, and they
can't mash even though they should, Like on paper, we're ballers,

(57:22):
you know, and I love those like I'm a big
de Rosen fan. I'm a big Levine fan, but he
has not come together. Let's not come together.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
Nope, all right, let's let's give our rating on this one.
I don't think there's anything else that I can use
other than gold medals on this one.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
Yeah, you got to.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
I agree.

Speaker 3 (57:39):
What's the next Olympics twenty eight here, the eight twenty
eight here? Ala, Yeah, there, we'll for sure get a
game up here then probably. Steph actually says in the
in the last episode that that curR is not going
to coach the next the next team, yeah, and that he's.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
Going to do it and Lebron was standing there as like, yeah,
me too.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
I mean, that's even a thing. We had coach K
for a really long time, and I think the only
reason he stopped is because he fully retired. Retired, Yeah,
because we we.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
Had coach K maybe like twelve years.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
I mean, it's kind of a question, is like, would
either one of them coach because they don't certainly need
it for them, they don't need the money.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
Yeah, addicted to hoop Man, both of them would be good.
Of all players, it's like more of a new trend
for players to become coaches, but.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
All commentate, because that's not like it's not like football
where like the best players go and commentate. That's not
what happens.

Speaker 3 (58:34):
They did have doing coach though, they did have Duane
Wade do the Olympics. I don't know if you guys
watched some of those games, which was his first time.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
He's in this dock.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
It was his first commentating ever to do that. And
there's some you know, like Chris Weber was doing it
for a bit, Reggie Miller's obviously there, Chuck some of the.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
I guess if you go on the inside NBA, I
met like like yeah, J.

Speaker 3 (58:58):
Williams. The early Charles Barkley, not to not rate it.
The early Charles Barkley clips are so good to like,
people don't know Barkley was a bowl. People don't know
how good he was. He was so good.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
He was like aunt too with the ship talking.

Speaker 3 (59:12):
Bro and he's six six. He's six six playing seven
footers and bowllying them bro. But like just in his accent,
everything's so funny. So I don't know much about Serbia,
but we don't kill him or something.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
He was like Muhammad Ali. Yeah, same accent, Like, yeah,
they had that same swag krill because it was Arkansas, Obama.
I think he's from I think he's from Alabama.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
I think he's from Bama. Louisiana, they're one of those,
even though I think the South. Where's Muhammad Ali from Louisville?

Speaker 2 (59:42):
From the South, Yeah, I think it's I'm not sure.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
I mean Louisville. I think they count the South, is it, Yeah,
even though it's kind of not middle ground.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
I was like just imagining.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
I was just thinking about the the interviews of Steph
towards the end, he there's a been a lot of
comparisons over the years between Steph and Buster Posey. They
they have kind of similar poise, although uh, Steph is
not doesn't have as much trouble speaking, but they're their

(01:00:18):
attitude is very similar. And at the point that the
Buster retired, everyone was like, Okay, well, how is stuff
gonna go out? Like is he gonna decide to go
out on top or is he gonna wait till the
wheels fall.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
Off or whatever?

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
But I could see because I you know, Buster is
now the head of baseball ops for for the for
the Giants, and that's like the youngest guy to ever
do that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
Yeah, that was a guarantee too, or you knew that
something like that was gonna happen for him.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
Yeah, the same with Steph. Steph could do anything you want.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
I still think STEP's can be in the league much longer.

Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
No, I mean he's he's a year older than me.
I think he's a year older. He's got a brand.
But my point is he could do anything he wants.
Like the Warriors owe him everything. Yeah, if he said,
like I want to own now, they'll just hand them
over the pink slip like they.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
My favorite part about the first two episodes, at least
was when Durant was like, you can have all the
chemistry you want, you still got us to guard Steph Curry.
Like what do you what do you mean chemistry? You're
not guarding Steph Curry. No one's garding Steph Curry.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
That is like both of those facts are true. Like again,
like all these international teams grow up playing on the
same team, you know, and like you do see it,
like you watch the hoop and it's just so different,
and it's.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
What they were claiming. Otherwise, the French France was like, oh,
we don't you know, we all get to play with
each other for four weeks, you know, these guys and
blah blah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
No, no, no, I think he was talking about the US.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
I think Durant was saying, like they want to talk
shit about Oh maybe they were saying that that they
have all the chemistry.

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
Yeah, that's what they're saying. They're making the same argument.
You're saying, like all the like the US League's to
practice for two weeks, we have this flow because again,
like they all went to that institute, they basically went
to high school together and then some of them even
college because Wemby and them, now obviously a lot of
people come to college. In the US it's more common,
but in the nineties and even early two k's you
would just stay there and they didn't really have college

(01:02:04):
and back then you could go to the league at
any age, so they would go to these institutes and
just like ball out together. There's like and they have
World Cups everywhere, like soccer. They have the euro World Cup,
they have the fucking all of you know whatever, World Cup,
and they'd go and play these legs or they'd just
be pro, right, similar to soccer where Luca Luca has
been a pro since he's fifteen. Yeah, I think the Vladies,

(01:02:24):
the Stoyakovic the same thing. They didn't go to college.
They just turned pro and then when they were good
enough in Europe pro, they'd come here. Joannis kind of
broke that where he played pro and came here, and
then now a lot of guys will just because of
the Internet, you just come play college here.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
Ali definitely born in Louisville. Yeah, Louisville, Louisville.

Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
Yeah, those accents, I love them. I'll probably watch the
rest of it. Sports docs have my heart. I just
like them all because of the emotion, the dad's stuff
with RJ. Barrett just all that always gets me. And
then yeah, like I do agree, every sports doc is
gonna kind of look the same, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
But but also at this every good one yeah yeah,
but that's what really, it's hard to break them all
high when you have a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
This is what they look like.

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
Yeah, and when you get deep enough, you can't get
too deep because these guys are already stars, right, Like,
you're not gonna allow Kevin duran to go vlog as
fucking hotel room.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
It's the marvel of documentaries. It's not like Tarantinos. Yeah,
indie doc And if.

Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
You get Kevin Durant crying, like that's probably as human
as you're gonna get with this level of star did yeah, right, Like.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
You're not gonna was crazy. You're not gonna let it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
He's not gonna vlog for you, you know, Like these
guys are private, they're in a different world. They didn't
grow up with that ship and they're just not about it.
Maybe next generation, right, you got like Jared McCain, who's
a fucking TikTok star and Rookie of the Year in
the NBA, Like you might get that guy to give
you anything you want, but these guys just aren't on
that level. So I think as personal as you can
get here or like run Ricky Run. If you guys

(01:03:56):
seen that documentary about Ricky Williams leaving the NFL at
his prime and he literally moved up to Colfax here
and became a yogi. Like he's letting you into his house,
but he's on some crazy spiritual journeys, you know, so
he's allowing you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
It was crazy spiritual.

Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
That's that's why I got kicked out. He got he
got kept getting suspended from marijuana, and he's like, well
fuck that, Like this allows me to relax after games
if you don't allow me to.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
Smoke a play, which was so stupid.

Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
No, especially in hindsight, Right in hindsight.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
Yeah, he was Kevin in that letterman.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
Kevin Durant is like a biggest investor in weed companies. Yeah,
and his letterman things all about weed, not all, but
like a big portion of him talk about the industry.
So yeah, obviously that's shitty. But besides those type of
interviews that are like randoms, you know, you randomly get
the perfect thing where you could talk to somebody really deep.
I think this interview did a good job of making
it special to the person, which we've talked about with

(01:04:50):
these other bodybuilding ones, even those you know, like they
just don't like open up. Yeah, Like if you get
Kevin Durant opening up more than like bodybuilders, how do
you ever expect make bodybuilding cool?

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
Yeah, Like the.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
Sport of basketball is already more dynamic, more popular, and
now you get these guys telling better stories and being
more authentic than these you know, like, dude, we're not
gonna get anywhere. We're not gonna make our sport cool
if you're gonna act tough, if you're gonna.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
Be so closed off at it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
Maybe maybe I don't know, maybe you don't it generally
succeed or exceed in in bodybuilding if you don't have
that fuckingland. It's like the bland food, the bland personality.

Speaker 3 (01:05:29):
We're basketball again. Like again I'm biased as it gets,
but like all these guys are good interviews and they're funny.
You know, like why is that? Because it's a social
team game. They grew up talking shit, they grew up
doing all this stuff. You know, like you can kind
of grab any even Tyrese Haliburton who's kind of awkward.
It is still pretty good in those interviews. You know,
he's kind of a weird kid, uh, and he's still

(01:05:49):
pretty good in those. So out of five golds, I
don't know what our highest rating ever, probably Icarus probably,
which I assume was I probably give like a four
to eight, like a I'll give this like a four, four, five, four,
four to three, five, somewhere in that range, maybe even
a four or five. Yeah, it's good. I got to
finish it, for sure. I know the story talk about

(01:06:10):
turnaround time though. I think this came out in like
December January February. Dude, to whip that out in six seven.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
Considering the amount of footage they had because because for
the most part, they didn't use the network coverage.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
Right, Yeah, they had their own cams, their own camp
practice and interviews.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
Clearly Netflix it's full access every.

Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
Yeah, for sure. And it was what ended July. It
probably the tournament probably ended or mid July July twenties.
So you had to whip this thing out in seven months.
You're hard not to give it a four or five.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
Yeah, I me, I like, Doug give it a four.
I just I don't care about the other teams that much,
you know, like those parts are slower.

Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
Did they dig into Joe kitchen at all later a
little bit? Yeah, because he's not that great of it.
He's a decent interview, but obviously he's English and like
everything's a little broken.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
I think he's more fun to watch in the in
the locker room.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
Yeah, yeah, being natural. Yeah, if I could pick make
this like to cater to me liking it better, would
have been like two or three episodes just about the
team USA. Yeah. Yeah, if it was just all bit
but that's but then like with like little bits of
like I know, it's just different. It's a different documentary.
But like the other guys, like I don't really I
care about they're cool, but like hearing about Joker and

(01:07:19):
you know, I don't know. But besides those guys, like
the other American.

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
You're about it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
I would say that like a pain point for some people.
It's going to be reading the close captions on the
French team and in this Serbian team and you know.

Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
Even the Canadians.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:07:38):
You hear all the accents, you hear the fucking we're
going to the Olympics. Now, It's not like what's the
name Brooks, not Aaron. I forgot his name, but he
talks just like that Holy Leaf playing the US in
the Paris film. You know, we're going to the Olympics.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
It's not like other sports where like they you know,
they put so and so on this team because they
have like a taste of this heritage, you know what
I mean? Yeah, Yeah, it's like there, that's where they're
really from. No. One percent.

Speaker 3 (01:08:10):
Yeah, I think sometimes because Embiid Embiid played for France
last time, and he was on our team this time
because he's like Cameroonian, French and American or something like that.
Don't maybe Ivory Coast, I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
I think Uys can just take anybody, right, because that's
our whole melting pot of well we could choose, we could.

Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
Choose if they're citizens or whatever, right like they say
with Kyrie, Like Kyrie's talking about playing for Australia next
time because he's Aboriginal.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:08:41):
And there's been back and forth. But I'm pretty sure
Embiid in twenty twenty played for France or somebody else possible.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
I can't believe.

Speaker 3 (01:08:49):
I forget or you honest, Yeah, Joannis could play for
us now right. I'm sure he's a citizen of some nature,
but he chose to go there, which is funny too
because there's a shitty Disney movie based on his life
that shows how racist the Greeks word of him as
a kid. Yeah yeah, yeah, So I don't know why
he chose to go there, but he could have played
for us too, because he's I mean, he's MVP twice

(01:09:11):
or whatever the last six years too, Like he's arguably
just as good.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
Yeah, I would give this one. I'm gonna give this
one four and a half and I'm almost inching up
towards five for one moment in the whole fucking thing,
whether you like Steve Kerr, however you feel about Steph.
After the the final buzzer of the gold medal game,

(01:09:37):
Kerr goes up to to Steph, gives him a hug,
and he says, I am so lucky to have you
in my life.

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
Yeah. There's a lot of heavy moments and it's like wow,
like if yeah, wow, And you can't hate Kerr as
a Kings fan, like we hated Kerr, we hated Steph
during that time. Yeah, but it's like I've I think
most of us have at this point now that STEP's
like matured and got not even matured, but now that

(01:10:05):
he's just not completely killing us every single and just
killing our hearts. I've come full circle with Steph as
like a fan now, yeah, you know what I mean.
Curs Kerr Like, I've never had really any problems with Kurr.

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
Great guy was way back in the day because he
played at Arizona with Tom Tolbert. Tolbert was on Barrier
Radio forever and ever and ever, and Kurr used to
be on quite a bit.

Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
Kerr might be a Bayry guy. He might be an
East Bay guy maybe like thee where Barry and Tom
go uh cirrus serie serious, look wherever they went, he's
in that area.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
Big shot.

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
Didn't Bonds go to Dela South, No, I went to
like fuck bro, I can't remember, not serious high school,
but I think him and Tom went to the same spot.
It's in the same area as De La Cell but
Bro blanking no, they have freak out.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
He's down there, Skurrs just he's got the full package,
He's got the person.

Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
He's from Arizona.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Actually, Kerr, that's why he went to Arizona.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
But the other two are he gives me East Baking
Guy vibes. But yeah, Berry and Tom went to funk
Bro something like siri. Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
Palisades in New York is where I don't know. In
l A is where Kerr went high school. Palistates High
School now Poli States High Charter High School probably now
Palisades Cinder High School.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
Because it probably went up and smoked. But Chris Webber
High School, Palistates part of country Day. There's multiple country Days,
but he went to one around here. I think Weber
Country Day. He went to Country Day, not here, not
not archives or was it. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:11:44):
I think he's I think he's I think he's a
Michigan guy. That's why he went to Michigan. There is
country days everywhere everywhere, right, Yeah, we have one here. Yeah,
they're in my league. Show my boy. Robbie Lemons our
Country Day Weber Jersey.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
Really that's not fire. Yeah, Robbie Detroit Country Day, Detroit
Country Day.

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
Yeah, that's what Michigan. Robbie here is now player development
of the Kings. But grew up, went to Country Day
and then went to Stanford and played.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
I grew up with what is country Day, like a
private school.

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
Yeah, it's actually I think the best I got to
Mike School. Tom Hanks kid went there to chet. I
think the one below not Jet that's in a show
that looks not the not the White Boy on Colin Colin,
Colin grew up in Sac. I think Colin went to
the Country Day and he's like an NBA player or
like a football player, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
And it's so funny.

Speaker 3 (01:12:37):
School got act Sarah Sarah close what I say, Si?
He was a Sarah High school s c r A.

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
He was one of those popular like shows for a while,
chet Chet he had he was not like a long
running show.

Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
I just know the Jamaican accident.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
What's the one about? Like music? Uh? Like hip hop?
That's like super big, like one of those shows you
know with uh the guy the crazy guy that was
went on Rogan talking about how he's got a new
way to flight flight. What's that guy's name? Oh? The actor, Yeah,
Terrence Howard. Terrence Howard.

Speaker 3 (01:13:09):
He was like on the show with Terrence just broke
something that someone's never broke before or something on Twitter.
I don't know what it was. Broke some theorem that
someone's never able to theorize. I thought bone No, no, no,
like some crazy you know, tesla theory or something. I'm
kind of physics.

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
All right, what is Chet Hanks? And this is just
on our way out the door here? Oh White Boys
Summer Running Running Point, that basketball show on uh it's
new Netflix just came out.

Speaker 3 (01:13:36):
Oh yeah, see, that's what I was talking about earlier,
is about some like lady running the team who's like
an owner.

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
Yeah, he's on that. He's like one of the main characters.
That's so funny and he's hilarious in that show. Do
you think his other show was just like a gig
then or like a rebellion? Didn't think that it was. No,
I think it was like a bit.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
Yeah, yeah, Running Point Dead wrong, You're Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
Atlanta, Atlanta's he was on Atlanta for a minut. It
like one app one app in New Orleans. Oh man,
that must have be mistakes with his dad and Greyhound,
which was not a good. Empire there is twenty four
episodes of Empire. Ah, that's what I was thinking. It
was a recurring character, and yeah, he was big on Empire.
He didn't have two episodes of Curb, did he really? Yeah? Interesting?

(01:14:23):
He was in the Fantastic Four, one of the big imbd.

Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
Yeah, well you know Nepo Baby, I Guessana Jones and
the Crystal Skull.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
Yep, that's interesting. Yeah, I don't know how we got
the chethankslame me for that, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
Welcome, Yeah, join us the next week for Chethang Summer.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
Yeah, well we'll watch Running Point.

Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
I tried. It felt too like netflixy it felt like
old And I'm sure it's fine. It's probably me.

Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
You know, it's not you, it's me.

Speaker 3 (01:14:56):
But you know, like early Netflix series just had like
this kind of like almost like shitty sitcom vibe to it. Yeah,
you know this, I only watched you know a little
bit in the back close. Yeah, it kind of had
like one of them to it kind of felt like
a twenty fifteen Netflix deal. And maybe it is good
because but then also they put it number one ranked
like they're clearly lying right, well, you know how they
ranked their sh Yeah they clearly that's alreadypos. I don't know,

(01:15:19):
but they have to put their own ship there, they
joke the Yeah, I mean that's what Drake's sing about.

Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
Not Netflix, but the same thing. Oh with the music. Yeah,
that's what it's about.

Speaker 3 (01:15:29):
Yeah, it's about uh Spotify and people planting views, which
they clearly do Tooould you go to any rap playlist
and any genre timeline whatever, and that Kendrick song pops
in there, Like, well how that end up in there?

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
Interesting?

Speaker 3 (01:15:47):
Yeah? All right, So what's our average? Yeah, we had
like a four four four to three. Yeah, yeah, probably
worth the watch kids, probably, Sorry, Generation Iron, your shit
sucks compared.

Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
If you like the Olympics, if you like, you know,
some real emotions and some real it's it's a real
It felt real, it felt good.

Speaker 3 (01:16:01):
It felt real, and and we're at high again, we're
at the highest caliber like quote unquote athlete celebrity and
it felt real. Yeah, like you can't really ask more
for just that. And yeah, you know, like some of
the shots are a little espn E or whatever, you know,
like a little overproduced.

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
But this could be a factor of though that we've
watched a lot of really bad bodybuilding lately. But again
we watched like something with like millions of dollars behind it.

Speaker 3 (01:16:27):
But sure like Icarus again, me and Jim agree, like
is one of our favorite dogs all time. But that
was great and I know that budget's not that high.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
No, that one wasn't you know what I mean, Like, because.

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
You need story, you need they lucked into a great story.

Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
They did get a little lucky, but they also pivoted
in that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:40):
You know, yeah, they were smart enough to know, Oh no,
the story is.

Speaker 3 (01:16:44):
They found it. You need good characters. And Gregory's fucking hilarious,
you know, and like like a movie. Yeah it's so good. Yeah,
it felt like it could have been scripted. Right, But
the same with this, right with Steph going ape shit
on the last game, it's been quiet the whole turney whatever. Like,
But that's the beauty of sports, is there is a
you just have to find it, and for some reason story.
These motherfuckers won't find it in lifting, you know, like

(01:17:06):
it might take a special eye and it might take
not a good lifter to do it right. You might
need to interview the person that's not top ten, but
he's doing some crazy shit, you know that's in there somewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
Also, like being a pro bodybuilder isn't that impressive?

Speaker 1 (01:17:25):
It's like being a really yeah for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:17:28):
Compared you're gonna piss people off. But I agree with billion, you.

Speaker 2 (01:17:30):
Know what I'm saying no, I agree, we do it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
We could do a fictional like narrative show called Muscley Monk.

Speaker 3 (01:17:37):
And yeah, yeah yeah they're Monk without the like coolest
spiritual fucking saying.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
Yes. Yeah. You know who's broke the fourth wall on
like how hard it is to be a bodybuild or
is Sam Sullick? Did he just the same ship? Because
the same ship every day? Right, it's all about discipline
and and doing X y Z.

Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
Why do you think I stopped making content? How many
deadlifts can I talk about? It's just like you do
the same ship. Yeah, well that's every day. Yeah, and
basketball too, really, like if you're vlog and all that shit,
it's boring.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
But there's also like, like there's a lot of genetics
and environment that is important to basketball in other sports.
Sure that like there's there's because there's act because there's
actual athleticism happening. There's no athleticism happening in bodybuilding.

Speaker 3 (01:18:17):
Well, and the the reps are times a thousand just
by nature of lifting weights, you can't work out for
more than two hours. Basketball you can shoot ten thousand
tuns a day to get better.

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
What did Kevin's mom say that she would make him.
She sit in the car make she said.

Speaker 3 (01:18:29):
She said, coach would just say make fifty. She said,
might as well they won fifty. I'll be reading you know,
you're the real MVP. That's saying yeah, like they created that.
Yeah he got m VP and he said no, and
he's he's talking about his mom being the real MVP.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
And then people memed it. But they memed it. I'd
go crazy. The Katie Pearl shooting. It was so hard
to get back in the day.

Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
Dude, did Kevin about that? I had to think that
some purple pair the same model. He has some cool
lore man. I was a fan of beginning to Uh,
he was worried about his image in the NBA, so
he only got tatted on his jersey line for a
long time. And now I saw he as a couple,
you know, because it is a twenty twenty five yeh,
get a fucking doctor. Doesn't matter anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
People would wear like player shoes though back the early
teenth mid or mid two thousands, early two thousands. Now
he was drafted.

Speaker 3 (01:19:17):
Uh oh seven o eight, he's been around two.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
Yeah, he's a little bit in a roun for a
fucking minute. Yeah, he's a baller.

Speaker 3 (01:19:22):
Yeah, all of them.

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
It is still going on almost twenty years in the league.

Speaker 3 (01:19:25):
Yeah, all of them. Yeah, because he because it was
the gap in between Lebron and him is when they
changed the rule you can't go to the league from
high school. Yeah, and so that's why Steph and and
uh yeah, Mellow is even older. Same draft. But that's
why Steph and I mean Steph was actually pretty bad
arguably in college versus what he turned into. He was

(01:19:45):
a bit of a surprise. Uh, he was a late bloomer. Yeah,
he was one hundred and sixty pounds, played at Davidson.
You know, it's just not the same, Like I grew
up in North Carolina. Like, if you're that guy, you're
going to North Carolina's.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
The Tom Brady story.

Speaker 3 (01:19:57):
He is the Tom Brady story in that essence, A
hundred percent, Yeah, one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
Well, yeah, like you knew Lebron, you kind of knew
Kevin fans.

Speaker 3 (01:20:05):
Yeah, you knew Kevin was probably gonna be good.

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