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Speaker 1 (00:11):
I saw an article the other day, you know, we
did we did the first, the first Rocky movie, and
the third, one, four or fourth? Yeah, right, sure, maybe
a one person's view of the best to worst Rocky
Verse movies, including the Creed movies. And they put the
(00:33):
original Rocky at number one, which I don't know that
I would do.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
It's hard not to because it's the originator. It's not
the best movie.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
But it's not the best movie. But their number two
was Creed three, which, speaking of of of what's his
face majors not the majors. Yeah, Like I thought he
was just kind of a cardboard villain in that thing
until like the end when he caved like a you know,
(01:05):
like like like a damn paper towel man. He just
went like, you know, oh, you know, all forget, you know,
like I disgrudge that I've been carrying against you for years. Yeah,
it's kind of like over now or whatever. And and
Create is like, hey, brother, you know, it's like what.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Well, he's like the twist is that crazy one? The
fucked up right?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
And he took the fall for him yeah yeah. And
then now what he's rich and famous and he took
the fall for the homie and and it broke and
he was supposed to be a better problem. He was
the boxer, he was the everything. Ye like kind of
stole his life. It's a decent twist. Yeah, I don't
know how long you stretch it out. I remember the
difference between one and two? Which one do they fight
in the desert? One where he goes like Joshua Trees
(01:48):
got his foot in is tire for this?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Two?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Maybe?
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Two?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Three? Which one does she become he engaged her?
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Two? Two? That's two, they're married in three and they
have a kid.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yeah. Yeah, they're all kind of the same to me.
I don't know if that's goods.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yeah, a little bit of the same formula for sure.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah. Yeah, and they based a rocky formula obviously, But yeah,
I guess it's good that they're all the same.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
The third one is supposedly I mean because Michael B.
Jordan directed that one and I think co wrote it.
It's supposed to be based on an anime.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah, like storylines. Yeah, yeah, I think a lot of
people are gonna do more that. There's another big movie
that came out that said it was all like, oh,
it's just basically an anime just because, I mean, anime
is popular, so I'm sure there's and you can say
that for anything though, Like the original Superman story is
an anime, you know, like it's all the same shit,
like Hero gets hurt, Hero finds weakness, Hero gets stronger,
Hero wins. Yeah, that's like what animes are, right, Like, Yeah,
(02:45):
Superman's untouchable. They find kryptonite, He's not untouchable. He finds
a way to avoid it. Now he wins. I think
that's that the dragon Ball formula.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yeah, he turns back time.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah, I don't know Rocket is good. I mean there
are Creed's done then, or they're gonna do more.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I don't think they're done.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yeah, I mean I'm sure they might even like literally
steal the formula where he grabs like a kid. Now
Arcaus Michael b is probably like forty three grabs a
young prospect and uh yeah, grabs like a fucking eighteen
year old. What was that dude's name.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
In Rocky buck Uppers name the one in five Rocky five?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, five, and then sixty challenges them or whatever.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah, same bad actor Ditamades?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Are they young? The young white kid Johnny something something
like super slick something. Yeah, really like I Hatley Rocket
or something.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
His real name and his and his name in the movie.
We're both equally performatively made up. Sounding really, let's see Rocky, it's.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Like Johnny guns or some shit. Yeah, Tommy Gunn, Tommy
Gunn and Tommy Morrison. Tommy Morrison just sounds like a
seventies rocker. Yeah, that's every lead singer in every hair
band as Tommy Morrison. But yeah, Tommy Gunn and Tommy Morrison.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Speaking of Morrison's r P Bell Kilmer, Yeah, pretty crazy.
He died of pneumonia yesterday. Yeah, yeah, throat cancer for
for years and maybe especially sad now, but that the
(04:21):
documentary about his life that his son made, I think
is very good, but also not at all upbeat.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, I'm sure. I mean that's all that stuff you
see like pictures of like Bruce Willis, and you see
like his daughter writing blogs and stuff like. That's not gonna.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I didn't watch it. I got sent a video of
Bill Murray driven to tears over Bruce Willis. Yeah, they
were apparently close before Bruce. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I don't put that connection together, but they've been in
Hollywood for sixty years together. So I'm sure you cross
paths in the early days.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, I probably so. Everybody did everything together then, I think, hah,
very different movie vibes. I saw dan Aykroyd breaking down
over John Belushi after all these years, and.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
There's something I heard about Belushi. Was it?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Well, I know the thing I heard, and I can't
remember who it was now. It's it's escaped me. But
somebody was the person who always stayed with him when
he was in LA, either he with them or they
with him or whatever, and that the time that he
died was was the time this person was not in
LA and available to to watch over him.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I think I heard some like conspiracy shit, you know,
like he was like a secret freedom fighter type cat.
You know, I forgot what it was.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Anything's possible there, anything's possible he was. He was a
very wild and interesting figure.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah. I mean a lot of those guys right the
far Lea's on the Belushi zone. Similar timeline or not timeline,
but similar story. Yeah, very similar and there. But everyone
loves him. I mean, that's that Adam Sandler SNL song
he's saying he's crying about Chris. Yeah, like and yeah,
they were close friends. But you know, they were both
so young, and to have that lasting impressions probably means
you was something cool, you know, Chris Farley at all. No,
(06:18):
Chris Farley does kind of get lost in the generations
a lot of things, do you know, Like we always
make fun of seb Awsome, some of the young cats
about like whatever. It might be early Will Ferrell stuff
or early Adam Sandler shit or whatever. And for some
reason those like grew bigger, I guess because they're alive,
you know. So Adam could make a new movie and
people say, oh, this sucks, but you go watch, you know,
(06:38):
or Chris can't really do that, but there's obviously identical trajectories.
You know, his face, Yeah, yeah, he was funny. Man,
He was funny obviously, like energy through the roof crazy.
Tommy Boy, Yeah, Tommy Boy, Black Sheep, Beverly Hills Ninjas
the first one I saw. I think it's a Disney
produced at least I saw it on like the Disney Channels.
(06:59):
Kind of a kid's movie but not obviously plays a
role in a bunch of Adams movies. SNL guy, but
he didn't do that many movies really, right, No, listen a.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Handful, No, not that many.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, because they were all SNL guys, Like his career
was just kind of blooming. But all those guys, I mean,
that's why they're all connected to, right, Chris Rock and shit.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Yeah, because they're and and Anthony Michael Hall was just
in this season of Reacher and people don't remember that
he was. He was actually on Saturday Night Live for
a year or part of a season at least with
Robert Dounny Jr.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I do remember Robert Dunney Jr. Which is a weird
thing because he is funny, but he's not like SNL funny.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
No, no, what you think of No, I mean, he's
probably funnier doing a monologue than he is in a scene.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
But even like iron Man, like there's he's obviously I
was like a humorous cockiness, but it's not you know
what you think of especially that era when you think
like Adam Sandler and Chris Farley and a lot of it,
I think is regional too, right, Like New York was
the only place for comedy, you know, until way later,
maybe nineties two thousands, it reached West a little bit.
But I assume where's Adam from New York?
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Sandler.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Oh, probably Chris Rock is for sure. I don't know
why Chris Farley feels like it's from Connecticut or upstate
New York or some shit too. I think they're like
all from that region, not only obviously career wise with
SNL and probably the stand ups of bars, but open
mic night type shit. But I feel a bird's place too,
because he's always he's obviously he's at the Knicks games
and shit.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Brooklyn. Yeah, Sandler, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
It makes sense. And even now, yeah, you just see
him like walking around at like parks and shit. He's
almost sixty. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I mean SNL
was like he's even late eighties, right within three years
of my age, folks. Yeah, late eighties maybe they were
on SNL. Yeah, maybe early nineties. Like yeah, I didn't
even catch their SNL stuff live. I got when I
was in high school, Like post, I got into like
(09:02):
comedy a lot in high school. So you go back
and watch shit or their stand ups, like one of
Chris Rock's like top two the most famous stand ups
the was like nineteen ninety nine. You know, I'm fucking ten.
I'm not watching it live. I'm almost renting a Blockbuster.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
The I think the second season of SNL happened when
I was in high school and the thing was to
come like to school on Monday morning and do as
much of the buss as you could remember.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Who's the very first blushi in them?
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Definitely early Yeah, yeah, uh Chevy Chase blushy ackroyd uh
Gilia Ratten or drink Curtain Garrett Morse.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Interesting, Well, I had an experienced yesterday that irritated this
shit out of me, and I thought I would just
talk about it here because it runs in a particular vein.
I don't usually go to fast food places, but I
was squeezed for time yesterday, so I drove through a
Carls Junior and the the my order was taken by
(10:13):
a I literally by AI, and my two gripes are this,
three gripes are this. Okay. So it's not like most
of the of the people who are running a drive
through window at a fast food place are putting a
lot of personality into their their presentation there there the
(10:36):
way they take your order or anything.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Some do establishment dependent, Some do you go to you
go to like a Dutch Bros. Or a Jampa Juice,
or like a Chick fil A and it's in their
franchise e annuals.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Right, it's in like Disneyland style, which is also are
you just as annoying it can be? But this was
a soulistic experience.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yeah, the the.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Voice was it was not robotic exactly, but it was
not human sounding really either. It was sounded very plastic.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah, I mean that's even ai stuff you fuck with,
like a chat Gibt voice, like it's just a hair
up from Alexa. You know, you'd never say it feels
like warm.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Major major bitch Number two. It took longer to do
the process or to get the food, to do the process,
to make the order because my third bitch, after every
item that you confirm, it does a suggest to sell
for something that you don't fucking want.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
The marketing they could, but they used to do it too, right,
like the super size you want super sized with that?
You know, like that was like the norm. They don't
do that as much anymore. I feel like, you want
fries with that? Oh we have this new vanilla shake now,
you know they used to do that all the time.
They do that less too.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Like I never ordered the meal, but I would probably
say twenty five percent of the time you get it
anyway because they're so used to packing it. You know.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
That's like the bigger gripe. I don't eat much fast
food either, but like they for a second there though,
just your quality of your actual order, like besides the
quality of food, like the accuracy of.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Your order was just slumped.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yeah, you have to check the bag fucking thirty times.
I'm like, dude, it's just not that complicated to put
the right item in the right bag, and they fucked
that up. It's been a while. I mean even I
was in Toronto and like twenty seventeen and you were
basically ordering on giant pillars of iPads. You weren't talking
to nobody. They were there. They were there in the
(12:39):
back cooking it like McDonald's. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
McDonald's.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Canada, I think the first time I ever saw the kiosks,
but I actually know, well, Canada and Scotland probably be
the place that I places that I saw the Kiosks first.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
See the throwback like memes, like you wander where like
people are freaking out. It's like McDonald's in nineteen ninety five,
and it looks like Disneyland, like there's colors everywhere, and
there's playgrounds everywhere, and kids are smiling, and you know,
the seats are orange and there's fake trees on the wall. Shit,
and it's like McDonald's in twenty twenty five, and it does.
It looks like a prison. It's like black and gray
(13:14):
and like modern, which I do like the design of that,
but like, if you're supposed to be a kid's food spot,
it's like literally black and gray with monitors and you're like, dude,
this looks like a fucking open area of a prison.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
It's insane and yeah, for sure, and it's just smashed
all the joy out of it. The fact that they
if you drive through a McDonald's, they ask you if
you've ordered on the app.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Oh yeah, Like.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
That's essentially the same thing as having the kiosk, but
it's in your car.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah, oh yeah. I think that's really common. Still, I
don't really do that, but like Starbucks, folks do that
and then you just walk in and snag it.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Starbucks I get because of the line, you know. Yeah,
the Airport's the only time I've ever done it.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yeah, yeah, I don't really do that anymore.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Like this is last trip I went on, we had
to be there very early, and like we had to
be at the airport at five ish and the Starbucks
ending up until five thirty and there's a sign to
use the app, so you go to the app and
it won't take your order until It didn't take my
order until five thirty one for whatever reason. It's like
(14:21):
five thirty would have been fine, but because they don't
want to get slammed, I guess, but they got slammed anyway.
I mean I was one of the first people to
hit the button and there were a bunch of orders
in front of me. Like it's like concert tickets or whatever.
I don't know coffee is important for flying at that hour,
but still yeah, but still, but anyway, what my other
(14:47):
bitch is that, you know, it says we're training our AI.
It's like to to give you a better experience or whatever.
At some point, people have to have jobs, right, I mean,
we can't replace everything with AI.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Yeah, but I mean they said that with the Internet,
they said that with the calculator nude, the jobs will
just look different. They're just gonna everything's gonna be different,
that's all. I don't think you just eliminate every job.
You know, like gyms aren't gonna go away. People are
gonna need physical fitness. You know, there's gonna be certain things,
but like, yeah, a lot of data driven jobs probably
will go away. Yeah, or like that is a basic
(15:26):
ass job, right, Like you're.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
But Ali is still so fallible.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I mean yeah, of course, of course it was the
internet at the beginning and the Internet was made yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
but I mean they're also you're just never gonna stop it.
It's gonna go and it is moving quicker than ever. Man.
You get like you get the thirty month that's going
on right now, the I think it's a thirty month
update on the on the Optimist robot from Tesla, and
(15:52):
you see a walk in the first time and you're like, dude,
I'm kicking that thing over. It's gonna hit a pebble
and die. And now you see it and you're like, dude,
that's like Michael Jackson walking like that. Things you know,
like that thing is smooth and they just change whatever
robotics like, things are accelerating quick and yeah, a bunch
of shit will disappear. But the big one also is
because that Ghibeli Studio chat GBT went viral whatever four
(16:12):
days ago. People are freaking out. And I love Twitter
because like a lot of the guys that I follow
are around my age group, and they're just better rage
baters than me. So it'll just go hard, you know,
and they'll be like, like the shout phase Banks, it's
just like a og in the game. You know, he's
just a rage baiting god. He's like, he's like, fuck it,
they're way better than you. Like, I'm not hiring an
artist ever again. Like they're not gonna bitch. I'm gonna
(16:33):
need no revisions, They're not gonna be late, they're not
gonna act like as soon as this picture is successful
that it was all them like and it is true,
like there's a negative to work with all these people too,
but those artists, hopefully will just go and do something else.
You find a new medium. Maybe maybe it raises the
value or the merit of physical mediums versus digital art.
(16:55):
But yeah, a lot of digital jobs are gonna bounce.
But it allows you to be like creative in other ways.
You know, you go do yeah, you go build shit
in person if you're an artist, and stop fucking around
with digital because even then people were making fun of it.
Right thirty years ago, people say like, well, are you
an artist? You're drawn on an iPad? Yeah, you know.
But then now when you think artist, you're thinking about
a digital artist, you know, like like yeah, Picasa or whatever.
(17:19):
But most people were thinking like photographer, videographer, editing. How
good they are with all these these things. You know,
it's just a change, just change of the times.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Totally unrelated, but maybe not entirely entirely unrelated. I was
in Savannah a few weeks ago and went to, uh,
there's a very big art college that is all over Savannah,
and instead of having like one centralized campus, they rehab
older buildings and make them into into you know, the
(17:51):
the the center of a particular school or whatever. So
we went to the art museum, some modern art muse museum,
and there was this twenty five minute musical presentation thing.
It was all kind of electronic and like tuned voice,
(18:16):
like electronically tuned voice and stuff, and it was a
completely dark room except for there was a band of
video screen that maybe like maybe like a foot maybe
between foot and eighteen inches high that runs sort of
the middle of the room all the way around and
the sound is coming from everywhere. And I originally walked
(18:43):
into it thought well, this is a little too strange,
like and because it's dark and you can't really see
where you're going and whatever, because because the lights on
the on these screens pulse and they change and they
look like like waveform some of the time, and you know,
like it was crazy. And I ended up being in
(19:04):
there entirely by myself and the portion because it was
it's you know, it's twenty five minutes, but it's it's
discrete segments of music, you know, like three to five
minutes each each of them. It was fucking cool. And
I came out of it and I'm talking to my
wife and my mother in law who were with me, saying, yeah,
(19:24):
this is like the coolest thing I've seen pretty much
on this trip. And we go in and it's a
piece of We go back in a piece of music
that is totally fucking disturbing. It's not there isn't any
vibe to it at all. Like when I was in there,
it was very choral and harmonic and and felt very
you know, like I don't know, zend is not really
(19:45):
the right word, but but it felt very, very peaceful
and uplifting and stuff, and they go in there. It
was like bad traffic. Yeah. Yeah, it was a little
bit too much. So anyway though, you know, digital art,
music whatever. Yeah, he can be your inter miss situation.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Yeah yeah, I think the creativeness will still always be
there like that. You know, like even with AI making
like posters better or like things you need quicker, faster, cleaner,
there's always gonna be room for creative and if you're
creative enough. I actually think it might it might even rate. Yeah,
it might raise a meritocracy in all art.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Might.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yeah, you've gotta have to be creative rather than do
this other shit. I kind of wish music would do
the same supposedly. I know it's a controversial figure. We
don't have to talk about at the moment, but uh,
Kanye's new album is supposed to be all AI and
some people are all bitch about it. But I'm like, dude,
I think it's genius. Like people were talking shit on
him when he used autotune in Ato Eights and Heartbreaks
and like Ato Eights and Heartbreaks, people when it came
out didn't like it. Now they look back, like, man,
(20:43):
that's one of the best hip hop albums of all
time because he used autotune. So if he's the first
to do a full album AI and people bitch about it,
and he's the perfect one to do it, because you
can't say, oh, you're untalented, so you did AI. Like
he's been at the top of hip hop for thirty years.
He made some of the best hip hop tracks of
all time. Can't say like, oh, you're defaulting to that.
But I think it's all just tools. The creative will
(21:05):
always show if you use the if the right creator
has the right tool, and AI is just the highest
level of tool we'll ever have.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
We were talking before before you got in with Josh,
one of our members. He's a nurse, and he was
talking about having been in a presentation where they were like, oh,
this AI stuff is going to make nursing so much
easier and you're you know, not, We're not gonna need
as many nurses because everything you do is going to
be more efficient or whatever, and he's like, bullshit, there's
(21:36):
no way that it makes that much difference. Like I
would imagine that with with diagnosis is probably the thing
that is the most useful for and it's and they're
using it right now as a check for radiologists, because
it's it's relatively easy, even for a well trained radiologist
to miss something or to misinterpret something. And if you have,
(21:58):
you know, an AI that has a ton more data
available than a person's life experience or education, that makes
that makes sense. But it's you know, nursing is a
thing that you bodies move bodies. That's I mean, there's
no there's no way to fix that. There's no way
to make that faster. And I would argue that the
(22:21):
amount of focus that has been over the last twenty
years or so on electronic medical records has made doctors
very distracted. It's difficult to have a conversation one on
one with a doctor when they're not typing into a computer.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Yeah, you know, it's like a bigger cultural thing. Like
I don't know if you'd blame the computer for that.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Yeah, I mean, it just kind of depends on the person, That's.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
What I mean. Like the whole culture of the medical
system has led to that too. The right Like you're
getting paid by the patient, you're getting paid by the hour,
depending on the system you're in, Like, why is he
going to give you his whole heart?
Speaker 1 (23:01):
I guess, but you know, like I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
They're not like trained to give you like care. Yeah,
I'm not trying to have customer service. Yeah yeah, And
sure that's not all doctors by any means. But if
the systems like that, yeah, I don't know if like
just digital data does that. And that's the same with AI,
like AI as we think of it now, which you're
allowed to like ask chat GPT. Yeah, might not make
nurses jobs faster or more efficient, but the point of
(23:25):
AI is how it's going to be so exponential that
we can't even imagine where it's going to be in
five years. So like I would say that probably in
five years it might do a lot of nurse's jobs better.
But if it makes people healthier, like, why why are
we going to fight it?
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Well, I don't think you necessarily anybody's fighting it, But
when or like when they make comments about your will
need less staffing, that that's a problem. And I think
that's just a problem universally. We can't replace everybody with
with computers and AI and stuff, because then people don't
have jobs. It doesn't make any sense to me that
we wipe out, you know, egments of the economy.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah, but just to my point of the Internet, that
exact conversation was happened in the early nineties, and then
you just find new jobs, new new avenues open, right, Like,
how many computer programmers and website builders are there now?
Hundreds of thousands. In the seventies there was three. Yeah,
you know, they just moves, it just moves. How many
(24:22):
gardeners were there in nineteen forty.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Oh, that's a good question.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Probably hundreds of thousands because people need food. How many
are there now? There's fucking three big ass companies talking
about farmers, gardeners, whatever, whatever, you get what I mean.
You understand what I'm saying. I will.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
When you said gardeners, I was thinking lawnmowing.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
So that's what we call them now, but I would
call that a garden. Gardens have vegetation.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah, well obviously, yeah, a farm is a great big garden,
I guess.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Yeah. Yeah. And that's my point is, back in the day,
there's a million gardeners doing gardens, and now we have
three farms. Yeah, right, you never thought about that. Are
you gonna blame the guy that invented refrigeration? No, And
you don't want you. We don't want to go back there.
I don't want to go back there.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
No, But like yeah, I mean but this brings up
a whole argument about like factory farms versus.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
But to me, again, that isn't the refrigeration invention problem. No,
that's a cultural governmental problem.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yeah, cultural government. Yeah, that's assist capitalism.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Same yeah, same thing with the with the computer data. Like,
it's not computer data making this like a punch ticket
out a deli at your doctor. You know, that's like
a whole cultural insurance problem, medication pharmacy problem, you know,
no soft skills problem, no nutrition, I mean, the whole
medical system we talk about all the time, right, Like
(25:45):
you talked to any any men and they're like, yeah,
we did like two weeks on nutrition, Like okay, Well,
like it isn't that kind of the basis of all
health of all humans, you know, Like shouldn't we be
worried more about preventative stuff than just fucking shoving them
with statins so they fucking lower their cholesterol.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yeah? My other bitch about the medical system. This is
so hard to hold on to a primary care doctor.
I'm losing another one. It's like, how do you even
get to scene, Like it's hard.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Yeah, it's just a machine. It's just a machine.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
And I don't understand. I don't understand the dissatisfaction. I
don't know who's offering them more. I don't understand, like
I don't know all the life choices that pull people away.
I told them this current one that I'm losing. The
last time I saw him, I was like, please, don't
go anywhere. And of course he's still left. Fuck her anyway,
story of life. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Sorry, we'll get a new doctor in Fresno for us.
All fix our ships or.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Gentry, oh, Daniel, Yeah, yeah, he can fix our ship.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
They'll take care of us. He can do my first colonoscopy.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
He's going to be an orthopedic surgeon.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
He's got to know buff doesn't do decently a two
week course years.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Bones, bones and buttholes.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Don't really there's a bone in there somewhere. Pelvis is
high enough. Not someone's bone. There's a pelvist deep in there.
You can fix.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Uh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. The other thing I wanted
to get to that we haven't really talked about is
the fact that the president of the i p F
about a month ago resigned, apparently under pressure and quite quickly.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Resignation when you delete all your socials at right after
is a little bit of.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
A question mark. Yeah, no, I mean that's like there
are there are if you just just go to to
the powerlifting subred and you can see some of the
allegations that are in there. I don't think I necessarily
need to repeat them now, but there there's some like
bad behavior alleged there.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
I just know about Reddit, like, I'm sure there was
great because we've been in this sport forever and there's
rumors about corruption everywhere. And I tied a lot to FIFA,
and there's a documentary on FIFA's corruption and the mob
and all this crazy shit, and it's just like too dry.
I couldn't finish it. I am very interested because I
know FIFA's known for his corruption, but like it was
just one of the worst documentaries. I couldn't even buckle in.
So I'm sure they're similar with ipf right. And I've
(28:24):
have first and experience of things that I won't mention,
but you know, money that you got to pay to
do this when other people don't got to pay, and
the Reddit mentions things of that nature. You know, the
same with the Olympics, And we've talked about Icarus and
how much we like that movie all the time, about
which country is running, what, who's running, who, who's friends
with who? And then who's paying two grand to pass
(28:46):
the test and who has to pay two one hundred
grand to pass the test? And yeah, there's allegations everywhere,
so who really knows, But there's been rumors forever just
about him as and what's going on and where the
money goes, because there's insane money everywhere. Yeah, but I
don't know if there's a fix either, right, because like
(29:06):
you know, you want to look at politics or the
med thing, everything we complain about, like you just replace
one figurehead with another figurehead, it's probably a systemic issue, right,
Like we're trading these presidents everywhere in America and like
issues aren't going to get fixed because they're all on
the same goddamn team, or whoever's controlling them is on
the same goddamn team. And so like, yeah, whoever was
next just stepped into Gaston's position, and like that guy's
(29:28):
going to be an angel, Like I don't know, Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Mean, like you almost have to go outside of an organization.
And then and then and then like that person has
to get you know, inculcated to the culture and then
decide what they need to change about the culture right
and the way and do it. I mean these a
lot of these allegations were not specific to how he
(29:54):
was running the organization.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Some of them, Yeah, extracurriculars.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah, but yeah, definitely extra curricle. And there is there
any scenario other than personal illness, illness of a family member,
you know, loss of a family member something like that.
Is there any scenario where the president of anything steps
down very quickly and deletes their their social media that
(30:20):
isn't a scandal?
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Yeah? I mean I think if I think, yes, like hypothetical,
but just again, having thirty years or rumors around this guy,
probably not, you know, because yeah, like people can have
crisises or need a new chapter or yeah, life's crazy,
you know, or like, yeah, there could be one personal
decision if there wasn't two decades of rumors on you know,
(30:42):
there's two decades of rumors and then it gets a
little weird, you know. And I would say, like democracy
feels kills all this, and like obviously there's issues with
democracy because there can be corruption at any level on anything.
But you know, if you're paying fucking two hundred dollars
a year to be part of the USAPL or power
Lifting America or IPF or whatever, like, yeah, maybe maybe
(31:03):
the folks should vote you know who it is, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yeah, instead of the like executive committee or whatever.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Yeah, or like or yeah, do at least a little
bit like you're voting in the committee and then the
committee chooses or something.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
You know.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
And we've always talked about the IPF in particular being
like an old head thing. I was talking to a
powerful homany today and like twenty eleventh IPF was like
very not cool. It was known as like a single
ply thing. There was raw obviously, but no one's doing it.
It was just like the single plinatty thing. But it
still wasn't cool. You can't name anyone that won it
since Ed Cone, and so no one cared, and so
(31:38):
the people in charge were the same ones now as
they were then. But yeah, like you know, and just
like throwing random names like yeah, where's like a Bryce
Lewis or like Elaine Norton, Like those guys should probably
be the ones leading the way on these things, because one,
I know, they're smart guys two. I know they care
about the sport and they are they just have new
ideas and they've competed elsewhere, right, you know, I mean
(31:58):
Bryce competed head to head in SPF like in whatever
twenty eleven. Like those type of people, or at least
their type of ideas, going back to a democracy would
probably push this thing more forward if they if they
don't want to do it, they would know who to
put in that place to do it rather than again, Yeah,
they just passed the torch to so and so is
now the president. So and so is the new vice president.
(32:19):
Probably probably won't fix any as badness.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
As to who once said it. Meet the new boss
same as the old boss.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Yeah, Perc, I just don't doubt there's any change. Yeah,
the FIFA alligator, the FIFA correlation popped in my head
real quick. And then the other one is just like
the state of natural powerlifting in general, you know, like
it's cool. There's a lot of new faces and new
strong folk like taking over, especially in the US because
you know there are other very strong countries, but we
(32:50):
do lead the way in powerlifting like popularity, at least
the culture. I would say we lead in a lot
of ways. But then there's like just it's still fragmented again.
You know. Five years ago, the state of natural powerlifting
was like a dope community that's growing with mega nats
in the USAPL and huge local meets and everyone knowing
each other and having a good time. And then now
all my friends that run meets and all the people
(33:12):
I see on Instagram and the community got fractured by PA,
and it's getting fractured even again because usaplnts are closing
the door and making it harder to go. IPF now
has got this drama and then like the one yeah,
cool place to go, And some of it's on the
organizations and some of it's on you little nerd zoomer
lifters that have ADHD and can't stick to something for
(33:32):
two years, you know, like especially sport like powerlifting, where
if you want to be good or you want to
build like any kind of legacy, and it doesn't mean
you have to win IPF, but you want to be
a part of something, you kind of have to do
it for a while. You know. You can't just like
bounce in and out and people are out running and
fucking jump roping and whatever like and obviously I jump
rope and I do other things too, but like I'm
(33:52):
not saying, you just have to be a part of it.
You don't have to compete to be the IPF world,
but you have to be a part of it if you,
you know. And the issue is that they were the
loudest one saying, you know, your fucking Instagram name is
Powerlifter two one five ninety eight kilo. You know, Like
that's the issue, right, Like you you act all in,
but then like your actions don't don't follow that up.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Yeah, the Instagram names really confuse me sometimes, like what
people are trying to communicate. I think that unless you
own a business, you should put your business in your
IG name or put a business like you're somebody that
you work for if you don't own it.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
It's like even Twitter is more old school, not by
that much, but it is more old school, and people
tend to do that or like be explicit about that,
like these are my thoughts. Yeah, except follow a lot
of like business folks. Well obviously they are like CEOs
of giant billionaire companies and so like they're saying like
these are my thoughts, these aren't associated with and even
some of them are their own company. Yeah, you know,
(34:50):
it's silent my investment group. But my Twitter is my Twitter,
and then I'll run that one that way, where yeah,
I agree, powerlifting and just next generation stuff. People just
don't care. They don't really they don't really see that,
Like pr isn't really a thing. You know, I'm surprised
we actually don't see more of that, Like so and
(35:10):
so got fired for Instagram story. You know, you're thinking,
like nowadays people be posting some crazy shit and like
scandals or whatever, like you cheat on your spouse back
in the day, you're getting fired from a big investment group.
Like I know people are getting outed right now on
it on social media, but maybe no one's got jobs.
That's why.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Maybe that's what it is. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
I don't know either. I do not know either. I
know I don't know what the IPS is doing. I
think partly in America this week, next week it's soon,
NATS I think is in Atlanta very soon, us A PO.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Right afterwards maybe next week.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Yeah, also in Atlanta, which is you know, another eyebrow raise,
like where's the what are we doing? Like you're supposed
to be competitors but I think both their nats are
in the same city. And I've heard Atlanta school. You know,
I've never been, but I heard of school.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
But uh, savannahs cool.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
I forget thinks about Georgia. You really been to Georgia either,
But yeah, I hear good things. Yeah, we'll see. I
don't know what those are gonna look like. This is
the first year USAPL restricted everything. I think. I think, yeah,
the totals so yeah, I mean, I just it goes
back to what we were talking about with Dean about
like the CrossFit Games a couple episodes ago, like, yeah,
the event doesn't make money, and yeah, you have to
(36:19):
make money as a company, but sometimes you have to
sacrifice events to make that work. You know, like concerts
back in the day weren't a big money maker for musicians.
They're making off their albums.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
And shit, and now it's flipped.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Now it's flipped and they've had to find ways. But
the point is, like, yeah, if like maybe nats, you
have to eat it a little bit, and that's your
marketing right, like right, because you want to get people
there to have fun, you want to get people there
to participate.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
It's a little bit of a lost leader.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Yeah, and get creative with how you make money there.
But if you're just like restricting calls, it's probably not
gonna be fun to go to. If you're moving to
random ass cities like Memphis and Atlanta, it's probably not
gonna be I mean, Atlanta. Maybe there's a little more
reason to visit because I have heard it's cool, but still,
like we talked about all the time, like CrossFit diet
as soon as it went to Wisconsin, you know, like
(37:03):
the best GNATS probably in the last decade was at
in Vegas, and everyone agrees for USAPL. So it's just
like big picture stuff. It seems like I don't know
again who's leading the ship, but it just seems to
keep missing the mark. And it's only gonna get worse,
you know, IPF drama's gonna trickle down to powerfulting America drama.
They can't sell out meats. USAPL is getting restricted. These
(37:23):
kids are uninterested for whatever reason.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
If you yeah, because if you restrict GNATS, then you
you disenfranchise people who are trying to get to NATS
by competing in local meets, and so you're killing local meets.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Yeah, and they're they're trying to buff regionals. But then
like why, like why what makes that cool?
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (37:40):
You know, like why would I want to go there
when it's just gonna be my gym members where the
cool part of that's is you're seeing your homemie from
Florida that you see once a year, and you get
to go see Russ and you go see all like
your favorite lifters or now if Russ isn't in your
regional or whoever you're if your favorite YouTuber is, yeah,
you're not gonna get to see them compete. Yeah, it
does complicate things, and I do you like that path?
(38:01):
I do think it should be more bracketed like that.
You know, competitiveness. Competitiveness always raises the bar for everything.
You know, the better you you allow five hundred teams
into March madness, it's not cool anymore, you know, Like, yeah,
you need some limitations. But yeah, I don't know if
these guys have future vision like that, And I do
wonder the memberships memberships of the stuff might be the same,
(38:22):
but like the cultural pulse is definitely on a low.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Yeah, And if you if you're restricting the number of
people who compete, then you should be doing more for
the lifters who do.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Right, Yeah, and the shows we talked about, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
I mean it's just this. If you're gonna shift the money, yeah,
it's everywhere instead of just retaining the money, which seems
like what's going on.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Yeah. I didn't get to read the full article. I
saw it on the way out the door. But like
some I think a British marathon runner who's really good
decided not to compete for Britain because you had to
like pay two k to go compete a marathon. Yeah,
you know, and when you hit say that about like
the world's one of the world's best marathon, he's like, dude,
that's fucking ridiculou. But that's happening in powerlifting everywhere, right, right.
You have to pay for every meet, every hotel, every everything, Like, yeah,
(39:05):
none of them makes sense. And I know no one's
getting no I wouldn't say no one. I know a
lot of people aren't getting filthy rich off of this.
You know, the regional chairman of USAPL isn't, you know,
driving a lamb bo. I get it, But there's got
to be ways. There's got to be ways, you know. Yeah,
it sucks, I agree, but that is the sport it is.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Well, that's all I got for today. We're pumping up
on a meeting anyway, So, uh, where can people find
your mic?
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Solid Mike? Where you want to find me? Uh? Good
luck in Nationals for all the homies out there. I
kind of did want to go because I got homies
in Atlanta. But it's a long flat. That's a long
flat for a little bit of powerlifting. Yeah, I'm a
Sebastian in the Scoreburnd bil on Ig.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
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the next episode.
I saw an article the other day, you know, we
did we did the first, the first Rocky movie, and
the third, one, four or fourth? Yeah, right, sure, maybe
a one person's view of the best to worst Rocky
Verse movies, including the Creed movies. And they put the
(00:33):
original Rocky at number one, which I don't know that
I would do.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
It's hard not to because it's the originator. It's not
the best movie.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
But it's not the best movie. But their number two
was Creed three, which, speaking of of of what's his
face majors not the majors. Yeah, Like I thought he
was just kind of a cardboard villain in that thing
until like the end when he caved like a you know,
(01:05):
like like like a damn paper towel man. He just
went like, you know, oh, you know, all forget, you know,
like I disgrudge that I've been carrying against you for years. Yeah,
it's kind of like over now or whatever. And and
Create is like, hey, brother, you know, it's like what.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Well, he's like the twist is that crazy one? The
fucked up right?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
And he took the fall for him yeah yeah. And
then now what he's rich and famous and he took
the fall for the homie and and it broke and
he was supposed to be a better problem. He was
the boxer, he was the everything. Ye like kind of
stole his life. It's a decent twist. Yeah, I don't
know how long you stretch it out. I remember the
difference between one and two? Which one do they fight
in the desert? One where he goes like Joshua Trees
(01:48):
got his foot in is tire for this?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Two?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Maybe?
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Two?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Three? Which one does she become he engaged her?
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Two? Two? That's two, they're married in three and they
have a kid.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yeah. Yeah, they're all kind of the same to me.
I don't know if that's goods.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yeah, a little bit of the same formula for sure.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah. Yeah, and they based a rocky formula obviously, But yeah,
I guess it's good that they're all the same.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
The third one is supposedly I mean because Michael B.
Jordan directed that one and I think co wrote it.
It's supposed to be based on an anime.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yeah, like storylines. Yeah, yeah, I think a lot of
people are gonna do more that. There's another big movie
that came out that said it was all like, oh,
it's just basically an anime just because, I mean, anime
is popular, so I'm sure there's and you can say
that for anything though, Like the original Superman story is
an anime, you know, like it's all the same shit,
like Hero gets hurt, Hero finds weakness, Hero gets stronger,
Hero wins. Yeah, that's like what animes are, right, Like, Yeah,
(02:45):
Superman's untouchable. They find kryptonite, He's not untouchable. He finds
a way to avoid it. Now he wins. I think
that's that the dragon Ball formula.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yeah, he turns back time.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah, I don't know Rocket is good. I mean there
are Creed's done then, or they're gonna do more.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I don't think they're done.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yeah, I mean I'm sure they might even like literally
steal the formula where he grabs like a kid. Now
Arcaus Michael b is probably like forty three grabs a
young prospect and uh yeah, grabs like a fucking eighteen
year old. What was that dude's name.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
In Rocky buck Uppers name the one in five Rocky five?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, five, and then sixty challenges them or whatever.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah, same bad actor Ditamades?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Are they young? The young white kid Johnny something something
like super slick something. Yeah, really like I Hatley Rocket
or something.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
His real name and his and his name in the movie.
We're both equally performatively made up. Sounding really, let's see Rocky, it's.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Like Johnny guns or some shit. Yeah, Tommy Gunn, Tommy
Gunn and Tommy Morrison. Tommy Morrison just sounds like a
seventies rocker. Yeah, that's every lead singer in every hair
band as Tommy Morrison. But yeah, Tommy Gunn and Tommy Morrison.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Speaking of Morrison's r P Bell Kilmer, Yeah, pretty crazy.
He died of pneumonia yesterday. Yeah, yeah, throat cancer for
for years and maybe especially sad now, but that the
(04:21):
documentary about his life that his son made, I think
is very good, but also not at all upbeat.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, I'm sure. I mean that's all that stuff you
see like pictures of like Bruce Willis, and you see
like his daughter writing blogs and stuff like. That's not gonna.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I didn't watch it. I got sent a video of
Bill Murray driven to tears over Bruce Willis. Yeah, they
were apparently close before Bruce. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I don't put that connection together, but they've been in
Hollywood for sixty years together. So I'm sure you cross
paths in the early days.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, I probably so. Everybody did everything together then, I think, hah,
very different movie vibes. I saw dan Aykroyd breaking down
over John Belushi after all these years, and.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
There's something I heard about Belushi. Was it?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Well, I know the thing I heard, and I can't
remember who it was now. It's it's escaped me. But
somebody was the person who always stayed with him when
he was in LA, either he with them or they
with him or whatever, and that the time that he
died was was the time this person was not in
LA and available to to watch over him.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I think I heard some like conspiracy shit, you know,
like he was like a secret freedom fighter type cat.
You know, I forgot what it was.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Anything's possible there, anything's possible he was. He was a
very wild and interesting figure.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah. I mean a lot of those guys right the
far Lea's on the Belushi zone. Similar timeline or not timeline,
but similar story. Yeah, very similar and there. But everyone
loves him. I mean, that's that Adam Sandler SNL song
he's saying he's crying about Chris. Yeah, like and yeah,
they were close friends. But you know, they were both
so young, and to have that lasting impressions probably means
you was something cool, you know, Chris Farley at all. No,
(06:18):
Chris Farley does kind of get lost in the generations
a lot of things, do you know, Like we always
make fun of seb Awsome, some of the young cats
about like whatever. It might be early Will Ferrell stuff
or early Adam Sandler shit or whatever. And for some
reason those like grew bigger, I guess because they're alive,
you know. So Adam could make a new movie and
people say, oh, this sucks, but you go watch, you know,
(06:38):
or Chris can't really do that, but there's obviously identical trajectories.
You know, his face, Yeah, yeah, he was funny. Man,
He was funny obviously, like energy through the roof crazy.
Tommy Boy, Yeah, Tommy Boy, Black Sheep, Beverly Hills Ninjas
the first one I saw. I think it's a Disney
produced at least I saw it on like the Disney Channels.
(06:59):
Kind of a kid's movie but not obviously plays a
role in a bunch of Adams movies. SNL guy, but
he didn't do that many movies really, right, No, listen a.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Handful, No, not that many.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, because they were all SNL guys, Like his career
was just kind of blooming. But all those guys, I mean,
that's why they're all connected to, right, Chris Rock and shit.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Yeah, because they're and and Anthony Michael Hall was just
in this season of Reacher and people don't remember that
he was. He was actually on Saturday Night Live for
a year or part of a season at least with
Robert Dounny Jr.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I do remember Robert Dunney Jr. Which is a weird
thing because he is funny, but he's not like SNL funny.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
No, no, what you think of No, I mean, he's
probably funnier doing a monologue than he is in a scene.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
But even like iron Man, like there's he's obviously I
was like a humorous cockiness, but it's not you know
what you think of especially that era when you think
like Adam Sandler and Chris Farley and a lot of it,
I think is regional too, right, Like New York was
the only place for comedy, you know, until way later,
maybe nineties two thousands, it reached West a little bit.
But I assume where's Adam from New York?
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Sandler.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Oh, probably Chris Rock is for sure. I don't know
why Chris Farley feels like it's from Connecticut or upstate
New York or some shit too. I think they're like
all from that region, not only obviously career wise with
SNL and probably the stand ups of bars, but open
mic night type shit. But I feel a bird's place too,
because he's always he's obviously he's at the Knicks games
and shit.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Brooklyn. Yeah, Sandler, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
It makes sense. And even now, yeah, you just see
him like walking around at like parks and shit. He's
almost sixty. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I mean SNL
was like he's even late eighties, right within three years
of my age, folks. Yeah, late eighties maybe they were
on SNL. Yeah, maybe early nineties. Like yeah, I didn't
even catch their SNL stuff live. I got when I
was in high school, Like post, I got into like
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comedy a lot in high school. So you go back
and watch shit or their stand ups, like one of
Chris Rock's like top two the most famous stand ups
the was like nineteen ninety nine. You know, I'm fucking ten.
I'm not watching it live. I'm almost renting a Blockbuster.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
The I think the second season of SNL happened when
I was in high school and the thing was to
come like to school on Monday morning and do as
much of the buss as you could remember.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Who's the very first blushi in them?
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Definitely early Yeah, yeah, uh Chevy Chase blushy ackroyd uh
Gilia Ratten or drink Curtain Garrett Morse.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Interesting, Well, I had an experienced yesterday that irritated this
shit out of me, and I thought I would just
talk about it here because it runs in a particular vein.
I don't usually go to fast food places, but I
was squeezed for time yesterday, so I drove through a
Carls Junior and the the my order was taken by
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a I literally by AI, and my two gripes are this,
three gripes are this. Okay. So it's not like most
of the of the people who are running a drive
through window at a fast food place are putting a
lot of personality into their their presentation there there the
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way they take your order or anything.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Some do establishment dependent, Some do you go to you
go to like a Dutch Bros. Or a Jampa Juice,
or like a Chick fil A and it's in their
franchise e annuals.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Right, it's in like Disneyland style, which is also are
you just as annoying it can be? But this was
a soulistic experience.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yeah, the the.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Voice was it was not robotic exactly, but it was
not human sounding really either. It was sounded very plastic.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah, I mean that's even ai stuff you fuck with,
like a chat Gibt voice, like it's just a hair
up from Alexa. You know, you'd never say it feels
like warm.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Major major bitch Number two. It took longer to do
the process or to get the food, to do the process,
to make the order because my third bitch, after every
item that you confirm, it does a suggest to sell
for something that you don't fucking want.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
The marketing they could, but they used to do it too, right,
like the super size you want super sized with that?
You know, like that was like the norm. They don't
do that as much anymore. I feel like, you want
fries with that? Oh we have this new vanilla shake now,
you know they used to do that all the time.
They do that less too.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Like I never ordered the meal, but I would probably
say twenty five percent of the time you get it
anyway because they're so used to packing it. You know.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
That's like the bigger gripe. I don't eat much fast
food either, but like they for a second there though,
just your quality of your actual order, like besides the
quality of food, like the accuracy of.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Your order was just slumped.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yeah, you have to check the bag fucking thirty times.
I'm like, dude, it's just not that complicated to put
the right item in the right bag, and they fucked
that up. It's been a while. I mean even I
was in Toronto and like twenty seventeen and you were
basically ordering on giant pillars of iPads. You weren't talking
to nobody. They were there. They were there in the
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back cooking it like McDonald's. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
McDonald's.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Canada, I think the first time I ever saw the kiosks,
but I actually know, well, Canada and Scotland probably be
the place that I places that I saw the Kiosks first.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
See the throwback like memes, like you wander where like
people are freaking out. It's like McDonald's in nineteen ninety five,
and it looks like Disneyland, like there's colors everywhere, and
there's playgrounds everywhere, and kids are smiling, and you know,
the seats are orange and there's fake trees on the wall. Shit,
and it's like McDonald's in twenty twenty five, and it does.
It looks like a prison. It's like black and gray
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and like modern, which I do like the design of that,
but like, if you're supposed to be a kid's food spot,
it's like literally black and gray with monitors and you're like, dude,
this looks like a fucking open area of a prison.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
It's insane and yeah, for sure, and it's just smashed
all the joy out of it. The fact that they
if you drive through a McDonald's, they ask you if
you've ordered on the app.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Oh yeah, Like.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
That's essentially the same thing as having the kiosk, but
it's in your car.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah, oh yeah. I think that's really common. Still, I
don't really do that, but like Starbucks, folks do that
and then you just walk in and snag it.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Starbucks I get because of the line, you know. Yeah,
the Airport's the only time I've ever done it.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yeah, yeah, I don't really do that anymore.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Like this is last trip I went on, we had
to be there very early, and like we had to
be at the airport at five ish and the Starbucks
ending up until five thirty and there's a sign to
use the app, so you go to the app and
it won't take your order until It didn't take my
order until five thirty one for whatever reason. It's like
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five thirty would have been fine, but because they don't
want to get slammed, I guess, but they got slammed anyway.
I mean I was one of the first people to
hit the button and there were a bunch of orders
in front of me. Like it's like concert tickets or whatever.
I don't know coffee is important for flying at that hour,
but still yeah, but still, but anyway, what my other
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bitch is that, you know, it says we're training our AI.
It's like to to give you a better experience or whatever.
At some point, people have to have jobs, right, I mean,
we can't replace everything with AI.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Yeah, but I mean they said that with the Internet,
they said that with the calculator nude, the jobs will
just look different. They're just gonna everything's gonna be different,
that's all. I don't think you just eliminate every job.
You know, like gyms aren't gonna go away. People are
gonna need physical fitness. You know, there's gonna be certain things,
but like, yeah, a lot of data driven jobs probably
will go away. Yeah, or like that is a basic
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ass job, right, Like you're.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
But Ali is still so fallible.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I mean yeah, of course, of course it was the
internet at the beginning and the Internet was made yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
but I mean they're also you're just never gonna stop it.
It's gonna go and it is moving quicker than ever. Man.
You get like you get the thirty month that's going
on right now, the I think it's a thirty month
update on the on the Optimist robot from Tesla, and
(15:52):
you see a walk in the first time and you're like, dude,
I'm kicking that thing over. It's gonna hit a pebble
and die. And now you see it and you're like, dude,
that's like Michael Jackson walking like that. Things you know,
like that thing is smooth and they just change whatever
robotics like, things are accelerating quick and yeah, a bunch
of shit will disappear. But the big one also is
because that Ghibeli Studio chat GBT went viral whatever four
(16:12):
days ago. People are freaking out. And I love Twitter
because like a lot of the guys that I follow
are around my age group, and they're just better rage
baters than me. So it'll just go hard, you know,
and they'll be like, like the shout phase Banks, it's
just like a og in the game. You know, he's
just a rage baiting god. He's like, he's like, fuck it,
they're way better than you. Like, I'm not hiring an
artist ever again. Like they're not gonna bitch. I'm gonna
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need no revisions, They're not gonna be late, they're not
gonna act like as soon as this picture is successful
that it was all them like and it is true,
like there's a negative to work with all these people too,
but those artists, hopefully will just go and do something else.
You find a new medium. Maybe maybe it raises the
value or the merit of physical mediums versus digital art.
(16:55):
But yeah, a lot of digital jobs are gonna bounce.
But it allows you to be like creative in other ways.
You know, you go do yeah, you go build shit
in person if you're an artist, and stop fucking around
with digital because even then people were making fun of it.
Right thirty years ago, people say like, well, are you
an artist? You're drawn on an iPad? Yeah, you know.
But then now when you think artist, you're thinking about
a digital artist, you know, like like yeah, Picasa or whatever.
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But most people were thinking like photographer, videographer, editing. How
good they are with all these these things. You know,
it's just a change, just change of the times.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Totally unrelated, but maybe not entirely entirely unrelated. I was
in Savannah a few weeks ago and went to, uh,
there's a very big art college that is all over Savannah,
and instead of having like one centralized campus, they rehab
older buildings and make them into into you know, the
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the the center of a particular school or whatever. So
we went to the art museum, some modern art muse museum,
and there was this twenty five minute musical presentation thing.
It was all kind of electronic and like tuned voice,
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like electronically tuned voice and stuff, and it was a
completely dark room except for there was a band of
video screen that maybe like maybe like a foot maybe
between foot and eighteen inches high that runs sort of
the middle of the room all the way around and
the sound is coming from everywhere. And I originally walked
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into it thought well, this is a little too strange,
like and because it's dark and you can't really see
where you're going and whatever, because because the lights on
the on these screens pulse and they change and they
look like like waveform some of the time, and you know,
like it was crazy. And I ended up being in
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there entirely by myself and the portion because it was
it's you know, it's twenty five minutes, but it's it's
discrete segments of music, you know, like three to five
minutes each each of them. It was fucking cool. And
I came out of it and I'm talking to my
wife and my mother in law who were with me, saying, yeah,
(19:24):
this is like the coolest thing I've seen pretty much
on this trip. And we go in and it's a
piece of We go back in a piece of music
that is totally fucking disturbing. It's not there isn't any
vibe to it at all. Like when I was in there,
it was very choral and harmonic and and felt very
you know, like I don't know, zend is not really
(19:45):
the right word, but but it felt very, very peaceful
and uplifting and stuff, and they go in there. It
was like bad traffic. Yeah. Yeah, it was a little
bit too much. So anyway though, you know, digital art,
music whatever. Yeah, he can be your inter miss situation.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Yeah yeah, I think the creativeness will still always be
there like that. You know, like even with AI making
like posters better or like things you need quicker, faster, cleaner,
there's always gonna be room for creative and if you're
creative enough. I actually think it might it might even rate. Yeah,
it might raise a meritocracy in all art.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Might.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yeah, you've gotta have to be creative rather than do
this other shit. I kind of wish music would do
the same supposedly. I know it's a controversial figure. We
don't have to talk about at the moment, but uh,
Kanye's new album is supposed to be all AI and
some people are all bitch about it. But I'm like, dude,
I think it's genius. Like people were talking shit on
him when he used autotune in Ato Eights and Heartbreaks
and like Ato Eights and Heartbreaks, people when it came
out didn't like it. Now they look back, like, man,
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that's one of the best hip hop albums of all
time because he used autotune. So if he's the first
to do a full album AI and people bitch about it,
and he's the perfect one to do it, because you
can't say, oh, you're untalented, so you did AI. Like
he's been at the top of hip hop for thirty years.
He made some of the best hip hop tracks of
all time. Can't say like, oh, you're defaulting to that.
But I think it's all just tools. The creative will
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always show if you use the if the right creator
has the right tool, and AI is just the highest
level of tool we'll ever have.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
We were talking before before you got in with Josh,
one of our members. He's a nurse, and he was
talking about having been in a presentation where they were like, oh,
this AI stuff is going to make nursing so much
easier and you're you know, not, We're not gonna need
as many nurses because everything you do is going to
be more efficient or whatever, and he's like, bullshit, there's
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no way that it makes that much difference. Like I
would imagine that with with diagnosis is probably the thing
that is the most useful for and it's and they're
using it right now as a check for radiologists, because
it's it's relatively easy, even for a well trained radiologist
to miss something or to misinterpret something. And if you have,
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you know, an AI that has a ton more data
available than a person's life experience or education, that makes
that makes sense. But it's you know, nursing is a
thing that you bodies move bodies. That's I mean, there's
no there's no way to fix that. There's no way
to make that faster. And I would argue that the
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amount of focus that has been over the last twenty
years or so on electronic medical records has made doctors
very distracted. It's difficult to have a conversation one on
one with a doctor when they're not typing into a computer.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Yeah, you know, it's like a bigger cultural thing. Like
I don't know if you'd blame the computer for that.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Yeah, I mean, it just kind of depends on the person, That's.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
What I mean. Like the whole culture of the medical
system has led to that too. The right Like you're
getting paid by the patient, you're getting paid by the hour,
depending on the system you're in, Like, why is he
going to give you his whole heart?
Speaker 1 (23:01):
I guess, but you know, like I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
They're not like trained to give you like care. Yeah,
I'm not trying to have customer service. Yeah yeah, And
sure that's not all doctors by any means. But if
the systems like that, yeah, I don't know if like
just digital data does that. And that's the same with AI,
like AI as we think of it now, which you're
allowed to like ask chat GPT. Yeah, might not make
nurses jobs faster or more efficient, but the point of
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AI is how it's going to be so exponential that
we can't even imagine where it's going to be in
five years. So like I would say that probably in
five years it might do a lot of nurse's jobs better.
But if it makes people healthier, like, why why are
we going to fight it?
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Well, I don't think you necessarily anybody's fighting it, But
when or like when they make comments about your will
need less staffing, that that's a problem. And I think
that's just a problem universally. We can't replace everybody with
with computers and AI and stuff, because then people don't
have jobs. It doesn't make any sense to me that
we wipe out, you know, egments of the economy.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah, but just to my point of the Internet, that
exact conversation was happened in the early nineties, and then
you just find new jobs, new new avenues open, right, Like,
how many computer programmers and website builders are there now?
Hundreds of thousands. In the seventies there was three. Yeah,
you know, they just moves, it just moves. How many
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gardeners were there in nineteen forty.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Oh, that's a good question.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Probably hundreds of thousands because people need food. How many
are there now? There's fucking three big ass companies talking
about farmers, gardeners, whatever, whatever, you get what I mean.
You understand what I'm saying. I will.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
When you said gardeners, I was thinking lawnmowing.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
So that's what we call them now, but I would
call that a garden. Gardens have vegetation.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah, well obviously, yeah, a farm is a great big garden,
I guess.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Yeah. Yeah. And that's my point is, back in the day,
there's a million gardeners doing gardens, and now we have
three farms. Yeah, right, you never thought about that. Are
you gonna blame the guy that invented refrigeration? No, And
you don't want you. We don't want to go back there.
I don't want to go back there.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
No, But like yeah, I mean but this brings up
a whole argument about like factory farms versus.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
But to me, again, that isn't the refrigeration invention problem. No,
that's a cultural governmental problem.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yeah, cultural government. Yeah, that's assist capitalism.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Same yeah, same thing with the with the computer data. Like,
it's not computer data making this like a punch ticket
out a deli at your doctor. You know, that's like
a whole cultural insurance problem, medication pharmacy problem, you know,
no soft skills problem, no nutrition, I mean, the whole
medical system we talk about all the time, right, Like
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you talked to any any men and they're like, yeah,
we did like two weeks on nutrition, Like okay, Well,
like it isn't that kind of the basis of all
health of all humans, you know, Like shouldn't we be
worried more about preventative stuff than just fucking shoving them
with statins so they fucking lower their cholesterol.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yeah? My other bitch about the medical system. This is
so hard to hold on to a primary care doctor.
I'm losing another one. It's like, how do you even
get to scene, Like it's hard.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Yeah, it's just a machine. It's just a machine.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
And I don't understand. I don't understand the dissatisfaction. I
don't know who's offering them more. I don't understand, like
I don't know all the life choices that pull people away.
I told them this current one that I'm losing. The
last time I saw him, I was like, please, don't
go anywhere. And of course he's still left. Fuck her anyway,
story of life. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Sorry, we'll get a new doctor in Fresno for us.
All fix our ships or.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Gentry, oh, Daniel, Yeah, yeah, he can fix our ship.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
They'll take care of us. He can do my first colonoscopy.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
He's going to be an orthopedic surgeon.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
He's got to know buff doesn't do decently a two
week course years.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Bones, bones and buttholes.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Don't really there's a bone in there somewhere. Pelvis is
high enough. Not someone's bone. There's a pelvist deep in there.
You can fix.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Uh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. The other thing I wanted
to get to that we haven't really talked about is
the fact that the president of the i p F
about a month ago resigned, apparently under pressure and quite quickly.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Resignation when you delete all your socials at right after
is a little bit of.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
A question mark. Yeah, no, I mean that's like there
are there are if you just just go to to
the powerlifting subred and you can see some of the
allegations that are in there. I don't think I necessarily
need to repeat them now, but there there's some like
bad behavior alleged there.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
I just know about Reddit, like, I'm sure there was
great because we've been in this sport forever and there's
rumors about corruption everywhere. And I tied a lot to FIFA,
and there's a documentary on FIFA's corruption and the mob
and all this crazy shit, and it's just like too dry.
I couldn't finish it. I am very interested because I
know FIFA's known for his corruption, but like it was
just one of the worst documentaries. I couldn't even buckle in.
So I'm sure they're similar with ipf right. And I've
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have first and experience of things that I won't mention,
but you know, money that you got to pay to
do this when other people don't got to pay, and
the Reddit mentions things of that nature. You know, the
same with the Olympics, And we've talked about Icarus and
how much we like that movie all the time, about
which country is running, what, who's running, who, who's friends
with who? And then who's paying two grand to pass
(28:46):
the test and who has to pay two one hundred
grand to pass the test? And yeah, there's allegations everywhere,
so who really knows, But there's been rumors forever just
about him as and what's going on and where the
money goes, because there's insane money everywhere. Yeah, but I
don't know if there's a fix either, right, because like
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you know, you want to look at politics or the
med thing, everything we complain about, like you just replace
one figurehead with another figurehead, it's probably a systemic issue, right,
Like we're trading these presidents everywhere in America and like
issues aren't going to get fixed because they're all on
the same goddamn team, or whoever's controlling them is on
the same goddamn team. And so like, yeah, whoever was
next just stepped into Gaston's position, and like that guy's
(29:28):
going to be an angel, Like I don't know, Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Mean, like you almost have to go outside of an organization.
And then and then and then like that person has
to get you know, inculcated to the culture and then
decide what they need to change about the culture right
and the way and do it. I mean these a
lot of these allegations were not specific to how he
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was running the organization.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Some of them, Yeah, extracurriculars.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah, but yeah, definitely extra curricle. And there is there
any scenario other than personal illness, illness of a family member,
you know, loss of a family member something like that.
Is there any scenario where the president of anything steps
down very quickly and deletes their their social media that
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isn't a scandal?
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Yeah? I mean I think if I think, yes, like hypothetical,
but just again, having thirty years or rumors around this guy,
probably not, you know, because yeah, like people can have
crisises or need a new chapter or yeah, life's crazy,
you know, or like, yeah, there could be one personal
decision if there wasn't two decades of rumors on you know,
(30:42):
there's two decades of rumors and then it gets a
little weird, you know. And I would say, like democracy
feels kills all this, and like obviously there's issues with
democracy because there can be corruption at any level on anything.
But you know, if you're paying fucking two hundred dollars
a year to be part of the USAPL or power
Lifting America or IPF or whatever, like, yeah, maybe maybe
(31:03):
the folks should vote you know who it is, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yeah, instead of the like executive committee or whatever.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Yeah, or like or yeah, do at least a little
bit like you're voting in the committee and then the
committee chooses or something.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
You know.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
And we've always talked about the IPF in particular being
like an old head thing. I was talking to a
powerful homany today and like twenty eleventh IPF was like
very not cool. It was known as like a single
ply thing. There was raw obviously, but no one's doing it.
It was just like the single plinatty thing. But it
still wasn't cool. You can't name anyone that won it
since Ed Cone, and so no one cared, and so
(31:38):
the people in charge were the same ones now as
they were then. But yeah, like you know, and just
like throwing random names like yeah, where's like a Bryce
Lewis or like Elaine Norton, Like those guys should probably
be the ones leading the way on these things, because one,
I know, they're smart guys two. I know they care
about the sport and they are they just have new
ideas and they've competed elsewhere, right, you know, I mean
(31:58):
Bryce competed head to head in SPF like in whatever
twenty eleven. Like those type of people, or at least
their type of ideas, going back to a democracy would
probably push this thing more forward if they if they
don't want to do it, they would know who to
put in that place to do it rather than again, Yeah,
they just passed the torch to so and so is
now the president. So and so is the new vice president.
(32:19):
Probably probably won't fix any as badness.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
As to who once said it. Meet the new boss
same as the old boss.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Yeah, Perc, I just don't doubt there's any change. Yeah,
the FIFA alligator, the FIFA correlation popped in my head
real quick. And then the other one is just like
the state of natural powerlifting in general, you know, like
it's cool. There's a lot of new faces and new
strong folk like taking over, especially in the US because
you know there are other very strong countries, but we
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do lead the way in powerlifting like popularity, at least
the culture. I would say we lead in a lot
of ways. But then there's like just it's still fragmented again.
You know. Five years ago, the state of natural powerlifting
was like a dope community that's growing with mega nats
in the USAPL and huge local meets and everyone knowing
each other and having a good time. And then now
all my friends that run meets and all the people
(33:12):
I see on Instagram and the community got fractured by PA,
and it's getting fractured even again because usaplnts are closing
the door and making it harder to go. IPF now
has got this drama and then like the one yeah,
cool place to go, And some of it's on the
organizations and some of it's on you little nerd zoomer
lifters that have ADHD and can't stick to something for
(33:32):
two years, you know, like especially sport like powerlifting, where
if you want to be good or you want to
build like any kind of legacy, and it doesn't mean
you have to win IPF, but you want to be
a part of something, you kind of have to do
it for a while. You know. You can't just like
bounce in and out and people are out running and
fucking jump roping and whatever like and obviously I jump
rope and I do other things too, but like I'm
(33:52):
not saying, you just have to be a part of it.
You don't have to compete to be the IPF world,
but you have to be a part of it if you,
you know. And the issue is that they were the
loudest one saying, you know, your fucking Instagram name is
Powerlifter two one five ninety eight kilo. You know, Like
that's the issue, right, Like you you act all in,
but then like your actions don't don't follow that up.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Yeah, the Instagram names really confuse me sometimes, like what
people are trying to communicate. I think that unless you
own a business, you should put your business in your
IG name or put a business like you're somebody that
you work for if you don't own it.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
It's like even Twitter is more old school, not by
that much, but it is more old school, and people
tend to do that or like be explicit about that,
like these are my thoughts. Yeah, except follow a lot
of like business folks. Well obviously they are like CEOs
of giant billionaire companies and so like they're saying like
these are my thoughts, these aren't associated with and even
some of them are their own company. Yeah, you know,
(34:50):
it's silent my investment group. But my Twitter is my Twitter,
and then I'll run that one that way, where yeah,
I agree, powerlifting and just next generation stuff. People just
don't care. They don't really they don't really see that,
Like pr isn't really a thing. You know, I'm surprised
we actually don't see more of that, Like so and
(35:10):
so got fired for Instagram story. You know, you're thinking,
like nowadays people be posting some crazy shit and like
scandals or whatever, like you cheat on your spouse back
in the day, you're getting fired from a big investment group.
Like I know people are getting outed right now on
it on social media, but maybe no one's got jobs.
That's why.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Maybe that's what it is. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
I don't know either. I do not know either. I
know I don't know what the IPS is doing. I
think partly in America this week, next week it's soon,
NATS I think is in Atlanta very soon, us A PO.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Right afterwards maybe next week.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Yeah, also in Atlanta, which is you know, another eyebrow raise,
like where's the what are we doing? Like you're supposed
to be competitors but I think both their nats are
in the same city. And I've heard Atlanta school. You know,
I've never been, but I heard of school.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
But uh, savannahs cool.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
I forget thinks about Georgia. You really been to Georgia either,
But yeah, I hear good things. Yeah, we'll see. I
don't know what those are gonna look like. This is
the first year USAPL restricted everything. I think. I think, yeah,
the totals so yeah, I mean, I just it goes
back to what we were talking about with Dean about
like the CrossFit Games a couple episodes ago, like, yeah,
the event doesn't make money, and yeah, you have to
(36:19):
make money as a company, but sometimes you have to
sacrifice events to make that work. You know, like concerts
back in the day weren't a big money maker for musicians.
They're making off their albums.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
And shit, and now it's flipped.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Now it's flipped and they've had to find ways. But
the point is, like, yeah, if like maybe nats, you
have to eat it a little bit, and that's your
marketing right, like right, because you want to get people
there to have fun, you want to get people there
to participate.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
It's a little bit of a lost leader.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Yeah, and get creative with how you make money there.
But if you're just like restricting calls, it's probably not
gonna be fun to go to. If you're moving to
random ass cities like Memphis and Atlanta, it's probably not
gonna be I mean, Atlanta. Maybe there's a little more
reason to visit because I have heard it's cool, but still,
like we talked about all the time, like CrossFit diet
as soon as it went to Wisconsin, you know, like
(37:03):
the best GNATS probably in the last decade was at
in Vegas, and everyone agrees for USAPL. So it's just
like big picture stuff. It seems like I don't know
again who's leading the ship, but it just seems to
keep missing the mark. And it's only gonna get worse,
you know, IPF drama's gonna trickle down to powerfulting America drama.
They can't sell out meats. USAPL is getting restricted. These
(37:23):
kids are uninterested for whatever reason.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
If you yeah, because if you restrict GNATS, then you
you disenfranchise people who are trying to get to NATS
by competing in local meets, and so you're killing local meets.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Yeah, and they're they're trying to buff regionals. But then
like why, like why what makes that cool?
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (37:40):
You know, like why would I want to go there
when it's just gonna be my gym members where the
cool part of that's is you're seeing your homemie from
Florida that you see once a year, and you get
to go see Russ and you go see all like
your favorite lifters or now if Russ isn't in your
regional or whoever you're if your favorite YouTuber is, yeah,
you're not gonna get to see them compete. Yeah, it
does complicate things, and I do you like that path?
(38:01):
I do think it should be more bracketed like that.
You know, competitiveness. Competitiveness always raises the bar for everything.
You know, the better you you allow five hundred teams
into March madness, it's not cool anymore, you know, Like, yeah,
you need some limitations. But yeah, I don't know if
these guys have future vision like that, And I do
wonder the memberships memberships of the stuff might be the same,
(38:22):
but like the cultural pulse is definitely on a low.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Yeah, And if you if you're restricting the number of
people who compete, then you should be doing more for
the lifters who do.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Right, Yeah, and the shows we talked about, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
I mean it's just this. If you're gonna shift the money, yeah,
it's everywhere instead of just retaining the money, which seems
like what's going on.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Yeah. I didn't get to read the full article. I
saw it on the way out the door. But like
some I think a British marathon runner who's really good
decided not to compete for Britain because you had to
like pay two k to go compete a marathon. Yeah,
you know, and when you hit say that about like
the world's one of the world's best marathon, he's like, dude,
that's fucking ridiculou. But that's happening in powerlifting everywhere, right, right.
You have to pay for every meet, every hotel, every everything, Like, yeah,
(39:05):
none of them makes sense. And I know no one's
getting no I wouldn't say no one. I know a
lot of people aren't getting filthy rich off of this.
You know, the regional chairman of USAPL isn't, you know,
driving a lamb bo. I get it, But there's got
to be ways. There's got to be ways, you know. Yeah,
it sucks, I agree, but that is the sport it is.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Well, that's all I got for today. We're pumping up
on a meeting anyway, So, uh, where can people find
your mic?
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Solid Mike? Where you want to find me? Uh? Good
luck in Nationals for all the homies out there. I
kind of did want to go because I got homies
in Atlanta. But it's a long flat. That's a long
flat for a little bit of powerlifting. Yeah, I'm a
Sebastian in the Scoreburnd bil on Ig.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
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